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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2018, 11:55:54 PM »
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         Whether in a parade or backing out of the driveway who, "Lifts their foot OFF the brake while driving...." in order to decelerate? Greer definitely Placed his foot ON the brake when all hell started breaking loose.
I think he meant to say that Greer took his foot off the accelerator, not the brake.

The noted physicist Luis W. Alvarez came up with a siren-reaction theory, published in the Journal of Physics in 1976.

    "The heavy car decelerated suddenly for about 0.5 sec (10 frames),
     centered at about frame 299, reducing its speed from about 12 mph
     to about 8 mph. Since the car was certainly being operated in some
     low gear ratio, the deceleration was no doubt caused by the driver
     reducing his foot pressure on the accelerator pedal. ...

    "suggest that the siren, from an escorting police vehicle behind the
     President's car, had come a few seconds before the fatal shot. ...

    "Everyone will recognize that such a reaction on the part of the driver
     would be an unavoidable conditioned reflex; we all learn that when
     we hear a siren suddenly turned on just behind our car, we lift our foot
     from the accelerator pedal."

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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2018, 01:39:03 AM »
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         Whether in a parade or backing out of the driveway who, "Lifts their foot OFF the brake while driving...." in order to decelerate? Greer definitely Placed his foot ON the brake when all hell started breaking loose.
It is a very odd argument to make, that someone takes one's foot off the brake and the car decelerates... But I also think Greer had his foot on the brake, right before some of the hell broke loose...
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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2018, 01:49:36 AM »
Perhaps this is why Greer had his foot on the brake... he was watching and waiting... for......... And note how he doesn't turn back toward the front of the car, until the dirty deed is done...

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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2018, 06:58:42 AM »
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Hi John, whilst I believe Steve Howsley is essentially correct in that "she was wrong" the explanation is anything but "pure and simple". I believe Steve Logan explained it better; "The limo experienced rapid deceleration due to Greer lifting his foot off the brake while driving at parade speed in first gear. The limo never stopped but the motorcade behind it did." That may certainly have given the appearance that the lead car also stopped and explains the mistake. Unless you believe in the film alteration theory, it's quite clear the lead car did not stop but just slowed down.

I also think Steve Logan explained it better. To be honest it's an issue that is simply not worthy of discussion hence my dismissive response. Sure, there's been speculation that the car slowed down due to braking or easing of the accelerator but to suggest the car stopped for full seconds as the witness claims is simply ridiculous.

Maybe she experienced one of those intense episodes where it's like time stands still. That could at least mean she's not lying and isn't necessarily a weirdo.

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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2018, 08:25:26 AM »
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She was wrong pure and simple. Maybe she's lying or maybe she's convinced herself that her recollection is based on reality but it's not.

Why would you wasted even 5 minutes of your life on this nonsense? You will never get out of the rabbit hole if this stuff sucks you in.

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Well at least she said the shots came from the back

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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2018, 12:53:15 PM »
Could not find accurate info is Toni still alive? Would be good to ask her about stop and the radio she was listening with her husband we are discusing in another post.

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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2018, 03:13:08 PM »
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         Whether in a parade or backing out of the driveway who, "Lifts their foot OFF the brake while driving...." in order to decelerate? Greer definitely Placed his foot ON the brake when all hell started breaking loose.
Ya, I meant accelerator. Prove he stepped on the brakes. You can't. Nobody can. Why bring it up again .

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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2018, 03:14:07 PM »
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I think he meant to say that Greer took his foot off the accelerator, not the brake.

I did. Thanks. Corrected.

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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2018, 03:17:21 PM »
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She was wrong pure and simple. Maybe she's lying or maybe she's convinced herself that her recollection is based on reality but it's not.

Why would you wasted even 5 minutes of your life on this nonsense? You will never get out of the rabbit hole if this stuff sucks you in.
I do not believe she was lying. The entire Dealy Plaza event is a rabbit hole .

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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
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Re: Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"
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