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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2018, 08:06:24 AM »
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In her interview for Texas monthly in December 1990 issue, Geneva White speaking about 11/22/63 stated: "But then he (Roscoe) came home around seven (PM), just like always." What shift would the be? First, second, were there shifts? If he spent the whole morning investigating burglary, his shift would be first? Or he went to his training on-call?

Don't you realize that pretty much every bit of Ricky White's claims were shown to be fraudulent and Geneva was in on it with him?  Once you realize this, then you should also realize that she can't be taken at her word in any interview.

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2018, 08:30:43 PM »
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Don't you realize that pretty much every bit of Ricky White's claims were shown to be fraudulent and Geneva was in on it with him?  Once you realize this, then you should also realize that she can't be taken at her word in any interview.

Of course I know this. But the thing is are all her words fraudulent? Something must me true. She stated Roscoe came home at 7PM, just like always. Why would she lie about this? Not too important thing to lie about. If she lied about this, what would be the truth? Roscoe was working first shift coming home 4PM?

Have to search on Roscoe more.

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2018, 09:05:05 PM »
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Of course I know this. But the thing is are all her words fraudulent? Something must me true. She stated Roscoe came home at 7PM, just like always. Why would she lie about this? Not too important thing to lie about. If she lied about this, what would be the truth? Roscoe was working first shift coming home 4PM?

Have to search on Roscoe more.

The assignment (at the residential burglary site in North Dallas) took most of the morning and would not have allowed White to get to Dealey Plaza in time.  However, that is not to say that White was done working for the day once the assignment in North Dallas finished.

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2018, 09:21:21 PM »
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The assignment (at the residential burglary site in North Dallas) took most of the morning and would not have allowed White to get to Dealey Plaza in time.  However, that is not to say that White was done working for the day once the assignment in North Dallas finished.

Here is a quote from JFK and the End of America book:
"White was not a real cop, but he was paid city employee in training to be a cop. So he had access to a police uniform, but he was not officially on assignment that day (11/22/63)."

Further down on the same page of a book there is a description that Beverly Oliver saw White on a grassy knol wearing uniform. So many misleading clues about White.

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2018, 09:23:24 PM »
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Here is a quote from JFK and the End of America book:
"White was not a real cop, but he was paid city employee in training to be a cop. So he had access to a police uniform, but he was not officially on assignment that day (11/22/63)."

Further down on the same page of a book there is a description that Beverly Oliver saw White on a grassy knol wearing uniform. So many misleading clues about White.

Beverly Oliver  LOL

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Online Jerry Freeman

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2018, 11:27:04 PM »
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Don't you realize that pretty much every bit of Ricky White's claims were shown to be fraudulent and Geneva was in on it with him?  Once you realize this, then you should also realize that she can't be taken at her word in any interview.

And so I guess we're supposed to take YOUR word for that?

Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2018, 07:19:09 PM »
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And so I guess we're supposed to take YOUR word for that?

Yes, Bill actually thinks that if he states something as a fact then it actually becomes a fact.

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2018, 07:18:08 AM »
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Yes, Bill actually thinks that if he states something as a fact then it actually becomes a fact.

So then you believe Ricky White and his mother Geneva.  It makes sense now.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2018, 08:18:02 AM by Bill Brown »

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2018, 05:32:44 PM »
I was involved in that discussion and here were my main points in summary.

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Here are the key points:

1) To me, and a growing number of people, his hairline appears very thin in the Mark Lane photograph compared to the FBI photographs. I don't claim to be a photographic expert, but this is what I have read over the years.

2) Billy Lovelady had protruding ears. Doorman doesn't.

3) Billy Lovelady himself said that he was SITTING during the motorcade. This was CORROBORATED by his supervisor William Shelley.

4) Billy Lovelady told the FBI that he was wearing a short-sleeve VERTICAL striped shirt buttoned up on November 22, 1963, and Doorman is wearing a long-sleeve checkered shirt open at the chest.

5) The WC made sure not to publish any photographs of Lovelady.

6) "Gorilla Man" was not "discovered" until 1966 after the film was given to the FBI by Time-Life who owned it. The small segment that depicts "Gorilla Man" is much better quality than the rest of the Martin film. How does this happen if it is genuine?

7) The WC's whole case goes down the drain if LHO is Doorman. Do you really think that they wouldn't lie to prevent this from happening?

8 ) The version of "Lovelady" at the DPD seems too big to be him (look at the man's arm). Ditto "Gorilla Man". If Lovelady was really this big no one would have made the comparison to LHO.

All these points have to be overcome to show that Lovelady is Doorman. Well?

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2018, 05:37:03 PM »
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No.

On the day of the assassination, Roscoe White was in training (had yet to even go through the Police Academy) and was assigned to assist members of the Dallas Police Crime Scene Search Section, who were investigating a home burglary in North Dallas.  The assignment took most of the morning and according to John Burton (one of White's training classmates and White's partner that particular morning), would have not allowed White to get to Dealey Plaza in time to take part in the assassination.

Cite please.

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Re: Gorilla Lovelady - Roscoe White
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2018, 05:37:03 PM »