When Was JBC Hit?

[Michael T. Griffith]

I think one would be hard pressed to find any other gunshot case where a group of people refuse to believe the person who actually experienced the shooting and who identified the moment of impact after carefully studying a high-quality print of the film of his shooting frame by frame and under high magnification.

Getting back to Connally's stiffening and frowning, which SBT believers implausibly interpret as a wound reaction, the HSCA's photographic experts determined that the stiffening and frowning actually starts at Z222 (6 HSCA 17), and I agree with them. This poses yet another unsolvable problem for a Z224 SBT hit, and also for a Z220-223 SBT hit. Since Connally begins to stiffen his shoulders and upper trunk and frown at Z222, this means the bullet could not have hit him any later than Z218, since it takes humans at least 4 frames (220 milliseconds) to physically react to "severe external stimulus."

Obviously, Connally stiffens and frowns starting in Z222 (if not before) because he has just heard a gunshot. Naturally, this would have caused him to tense up and frown. He explained that he turned to try to see JFK because he had heard a shot, and we see him starting to finish his rightward turn in Z222, when he reemerges from behind the freeway sign. So, yes, of course, he was worried about hearing a gunshot, and so he tensed up and frowned as a result.     

Of course, Connally carefully studied all the frames after he reemerges from behind the freeway sign for any indication of wound reaction and bullet impact. He said he saw no indication before Z229 that he was hit, and he chose Z234 as the moment of impact. He said he was certain about this.

But, even if you want to reject the conclusion of the guy who actually experienced the wounding and who knew himself better than anyone else, you are still left with the fact that the reaction that starts at Z222 could not have been in response to a Z220-221 hit (and obviously not to a Z223-224 hit either).

 

[John Corbett]

I think one would be hard pressed to find any other gunshot case where a group of people refuse to believe the person who actually experienced the shooting and who identified the moment of impact after carefully studying a high-quality print of the film of his shooting frame by frame and under high magnification.

The only way JBC had of syncing when he thought he was hit to the Z-film is to look for how he remembered reacting. Since his arm flip was a completely involuntary reflexive response, he had no memory of that arm flip and no reason to look for that among the franes.

Getting back to Connally's stiffening and frowning, which SBT believers implausibly interpret as a wound reaction, the HSCA's photographic experts determined that the stiffening and frowning actually starts at Z222 (6 HSCA 17), and I agree with them. This poses yet another unsolvable problem for a Z224 SBT hit, and also for a Z220-223 SBT hit. Since Connally begins to stiffen his shoulders and upper trunk and frown at Z222, this means the bullet could not have hit him any later than Z218, since it takes humans at least 4 frames (220 milliseconds) to physically react to "severe external stimulus."

Contrary to what you assert, the best indication of JBC's reaction to being shot is when his arm suddenly flipped up at Z226 in perfect unison with JFK's reflexive response to the same shot. This is the one you continue to ignore. And then you accuse me of evasion. Too funny.

Obviously, Connally stiffens and frowns starting in Z222 (if not before) because he has just heard a gunshot. Naturally, this would have caused him to tense up and frown. He explained that he turned to try to see JFK because he had heard a shot, and we see him starting to finish his rightward turn in Z222, when he reemerges from behind the freeway sign. So, yes, of course, he was worried about hearing a gunshot, and so he tensed up and frowned as a result.

Wrong again. JBC said he never heard the shot that hit him in the back. He would have felt the bullet in the back before the sound of the muzzle blast reached his ears. It's called sensory overload.

https://www.healthline.com/health/sensory-overload

"Sensory overload happens when you’re getting more input from your five senses than your brain can sort through and process."

     

Of course, Connally carefully studied all the frames after he reemerges from behind the freeway sign for any indication of wound reaction and bullet impact. He said he saw no indication before Z229 that he was hit, and he chose Z234 as the moment of impact. He said he was certain about this.

He failed to see what he wasn't looking for.

But, even if you want to reject the conclusion of the guy who actually experienced the wounding and who knew himself better than anyone else, you are still left with the fact that the reaction that starts at Z222 could not have been in response to a Z220-221 hit (and obviously not to a Z223-224 hit either).

No one is obligated to accept your FUBAR conclusions.

[Dan O'meara]

I think one would be hard pressed to find any other gunshot case where a group of people refuse to believe the person who actually experienced the shooting and who identified the moment of impact after carefully studying a high-quality print of the film of his shooting frame by frame and under high magnification.

Getting back to Connally's stiffening and frowning, which SBT believers implausibly interpret as a wound reaction, the HSCA's photographic experts determined that the stiffening and frowning actually starts at Z222 (6 HSCA 17), and I agree with them. This poses yet another unsolvable problem for a Z224 SBT hit, and also for a Z220-223 SBT hit. Since Connally begins to stiffen his shoulders and upper trunk and frown at Z222, this means the bullet could not have hit him any later than Z218, since it takes humans at least 4 frames (220 milliseconds) to physically react to "severe external stimulus."

Obviously, Connally stiffens and frowns starting in Z222 (if not before) because he has just heard a gunshot. Naturally, this would have caused him to tense up and frown. He explained that he turned to try to see JFK because he had heard a shot, and we see him starting to finish his rightward turn in Z222, when he reemerges from behind the freeway sign. So, yes, of course, he was worried about hearing a gunshot, and so he tensed up and frowned as a result.     

Of course, Connally carefully studied all the frames after he reemerges from behind the freeway sign for any indication of wound reaction and bullet impact. He said he saw no indication before Z229 that he was hit, and he chose Z234 as the moment of impact. He said he was certain about this.

But, even if you want to reject the conclusion of the guy who actually experienced the wounding and who knew himself better than anyone else, you are still left with the fact that the reaction that starts at Z222 could not have been in response to a Z220-221 hit (and obviously not to a Z223-224 hit either).

Below is z223. There is no sign of "stiffness" whatsoever. JBC is sat upright and alert looking calm and composed.
It shows JBC after he emerges from behind the Stemmons sign.
He is still looking off to his right as he was before he passed behind the Stemmons sign:




Almost immediately after this frame JBC appears to have an extreme reaction.
The clip below is from z222 to z250.
In my opinion it shows JBC having an extreme reaction, most likely to being shot:



I can only say I'm flummoxed by anyone who can look at this clip and honestly say there is no radical reaction in the frames immediately following z222/z223.
Use your own eyes.
There's no need to get lost in JBC's faulty recollection of the massively traumatising, life-threatening injury that threw his whole body into shock. There is copious amounts written about the distorting effects trauma can have on memory. This must be taken into account.
It must also be taken into account that there is a 'time-lag' between the trauma happening and JBC becoming consciously aware of it:

"Human thought takes time to form, and so the “right now” that we’re experiencing inside our skulls is always a little later than what’s going on in the outside world. It takes 500 milliseconds, or half a second, for sensory information from the outside world to be incorporated into conscious experience."

https://nymag.com/speed/2016/12/what-is-the-speed-of-thought.html#:~:text=Human%20thought%20takes%20time%20to,be%20incorporated%20into%20conscious%20experience.


LATER EDIT: I created this GiF to highlight JBC's reaction. I used z223 and z240 which represents a time gap of 1 second. A single second. Look at the difference between the two images and consider there is a single second between them:

[John Corbett]

There are two kinds of responses, cognitive and reflexive. Cognitive responses require interaction with the brain. Reflexive responses do not. They happen more rapidly than cognitive responses. The nerves and muscles respond to an outside stimulus, in this case, the single bullet. JBC exhibits both types of responses. First the reflexive response of his right arm flipping upward at Z226 when the bullet smashed into his wrist. It took 9 frames, about 1/2 second, for his arm to raise up and back down out of sight following the bullet strike to his wrist. That was followed immediately by his cognitive response of reacting to the the blow to his back which he described as if he had been hit by a doubled up fist. That is when he doubled over and dipped to his right, which is what he remembered. It appears to me his placement of that reaction at Z234 seems to be fairly accurate. That is when he see his shoulders lower noticeably.