A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys

[Royell Storing]

\  To test the location of the car either parked along the south (or north) curb of the Elm Extension, as seen in the Wiegman film, I plotted Wiegman’s position with test south curb versus north curb cars on a DP map. The plot showed the north curb car about twice the distance from the camera compared to a south curb car. Then for equal sized cars the north curb car would appear about one half the size of the south curb car to Wiegman’s camera.  I made a quick 3D view animation to demonstrate this and added a 5.5’ black suit man for comparison. It looks to me that the Wiegman car is nearer to the south curb. Note that I gave the test cars a steel-blue color (not white) for the 3D animation for modeling development use.

 

   What we see at ground level behind Fedora Man, is identical to what we see behind the ladies on the (R) that are standing in the street. Surface Street is what we are seeing behind both. Seeing the surface street behind Fedora Man means that car is clearly parked on the other side of the Elm St Extension. That car is parked  near the "wide open" Huge Gates, and is facing toward the railroad yard.

[James Hackerott]

Thanks to Tom for identification of the “Getaway Car” as a 1958 Pontiac Bonneville sedan. For my 3D model I was able to make texture maps of that model. Texture maps are 2D and can be placed in my 3D model but not as solid objects. I pasted the sides, front and rear texture maps to form a perimeter of the car. See the elevated view attachment.

My goal was to model this into a simulated Wiegman frame overlay with an actual Wiegman frame. I spent one or two days trying to fit the model to a Death in Dealey Plaza (DiDP) frame without successes. I finally remembered that DiDP frames were asymmetrically cropped, and aspect ratio compromised. I used a NFV video frame for the full frame that worked pretty good with the model.  The second attachment summarizes that overlay, with varying amount of transparency.   

These renderings are updates to previous versions.

James

[Tom Graves]

Thanks to Tom for identification of the “Getaway Car” as a 1958 Pontiac Bonneville sedan. For my 3D model I was able to make texture maps of that model. Texture maps are 2D and can be placed in my 3D model but not as solid objects. I pasted the sides, front and rear texture maps to form a perimeter of the car. See the elevated view attachment.

My goal was to model this into a simulated Wiegman frame overlay with an actual Wiegman frame. I spent one or two days trying to fit the model to a Death in Dealey Plaza (DiDP) frame without success. I finally remembered that DiDP frames were asymmetrically cropped, and aspect ratio compromised. I used a NFV video frame for the full frame that worked pretty good with the model.  The second attachment summarizes that overlay, with varying amount of transparency.   

These renderings are updates to previous versions.

James

James,

I may be wrong, but I think Royell's "Getaway Car" is too far to the left in your lower montage.

I say this for two reasons:

1) In Wiegman, the "rocket ship exhaust" design on the side of the car by "Fedora Man's" crossed arm looks wide and therefore nearer the end of the car, and

2) We can see the somewhat rounded end of the "Getaway Car" where it is darker colored than the light-colored car across Elm Street Extension and with which it visually merges to a certain degree.

Regardless, keep up the good work!

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

  Fedora Man was NOT standing in the street. And the "getaway" car is 17+ feet long and 5 feet high. If it was there, it would stand out like nobody's business.
  You can see the surface street behind Fedora Man. There is nothing behind him. And the surface street we are seeing behind Fedora Man is identical to the surface street we see behind the ladies to the (R) of the Island.

[Tom Graves]

Fedora Man was not standing in the street.

Who said that he was?

And the "getaway" car is 17+ feet long and 5 feet high. If it was there, it would stand out like nobody's business.

The people are blocking our view of it.
 

You can see the surface street behind Fedora Man.

No, you can't.

There is nothing behind him.

Your 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Getaway Car" is behind him, but we can only see a small part of it to the left of his crossed arm.

And the surface street we are seeing behind Fedora Man is identical to the surface street we see behind the ladies standing in the street to the (R) of the Island.

Huh?