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   So, you want to compare the firepower of the AR-15 to the firepower of a "handgun"? Seriously? You are discrediting ALL of the other work you have done regarding the possible firing of the AR-15 on 11/22/63.
A say 65% edge-contact on a thin chromed strip stopped the large slug from entering the door, compared to the entry of its 4 mates.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on December 03, 2025, 09:26:48 PM »
You have two major issues here: (1) Proffering the alleged image(s) on the current Zapruder film as the basis for your claim, (Those images clashing with the Dan Rather description of the Zapruder Film he described to the World on the weekend after the assassination), and, (2) Absence of Roselle & Scearce bona fides.   

Dear Comrade Storing,


Can you prove that the "evil, evil Deep State" altered the film? 

What's the matter, don't you like the fact that Zapruder paused seventeen seconds between Z-132 and Z-133 in order to save film?


Regarding Roselle and Scearce, would you prefer that they be mega donors to The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx")?


-- Tom
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I officially vote that Clint Hill was preparing to leap at Z 255, but that the total time for the completion of the leap where both his feet have hit the ground is somewhere around Z-275.

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So it’s difficult to determine what the current vote count is , because everyone seems to have instead stated their individual perceptions  without actually declaring which of the 4 options Tom listed.

Even Tom has muddled his own  #4 vote by following up with how he is now clueless.

So I’m starting the count again by officially declaring that I’m voting for #1. 👍

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   So, you want to compare the firepower of the AR-15 to the firepower of a "handgun"? Seriously? You are discrediting ALL of the other work you have done regarding the possible firing of the AR-15 on 11/22/63.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Royell Storing on December 03, 2025, 02:48:37 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

Brian Roselle and Kenneth Scearce reference several studies on the issue.

Read it and weep, Comrade Storing.

https://d7922adf-f499-4a26-96d4-8ab2d521fa35.usrfiles.com/ugd/d7922a_e280e26982b44f2c97c6e6e27026e385.pdf

-- Tom

   You have 2 major issues here: (1) Proffering the alleged image(s) on the Current Zapruder Film as the basis for your claim, (Those images clashing with the Dan Rather description of the Zapruder Film he described to the World on the weekend after the assassination), and, (2) Absence of Roselle & Scearce bona fides.   
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In the pix we can see that a puny chrome stripe over thin sheet steel can stop a handgun slug.
The JFK limo had a big chrome trim (usually stainless steel)(very hard) over a say 3" by 1.5" steel tube (much tougher than the sheet steel of the door in the pix), & Hickey's AR15 slug was a say 55grain hollow point & not full metal jacket. Dent shown in bottom pix.




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   The AR-15 is a very powerful rifle. How doe shot #5 hit the "chrome trim" and Not Penetrate that trim? (I am assuming this is the "dented" chrome trim that runs  just below the top of the windshield). A clean shot from the powerful AR-15 should have had no problem penetrating that chrome trim.
A stainless steel chromed strip/trim sitting loosely over a strong steel windshield frame must obviously stop a (say) hollow point.
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U can search my threads devoted to Hickey. On both forums. Hickey fired 4 or 5 or 6 shots.
Hickey's Shot-1 hit kerb & injured Teague. Shot-2 hit grass. Shot-3 hit kerb. Shot-4 hit tarmac. Shot-5 hit chrome trim. Shot-6 (Z312-Z313) hit JFK in head, & cracked windshield.

   The AR-15 is a very powerful rifle. How doe shot #5 hit the "chrome trim" and Not Penetrate that trim? (I am assuming this is the "dented" chrome trim that runs  just below the top of the windshield). A clean shot from the powerful AR-15 should have had no problem penetrating that chrome trim.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Andrew Mason on December 03, 2025, 01:19:57 PM »
The best evidence is the Zapruder film, and it shows a 100% degree of accuracy the second shot hit both men at the same time Z-223/224



That is your interpretation, not what it shows.  You may be right.  But all it shows is the two men reacting at about the same time (not necessarily beginning their reactions at the same time because JFK was already reacting before his head appears in z225)
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