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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on October 03, 2026, 03:43:48 PM »The image isn't doctored...This will be proven by obtaining the original Darnell film and showing the exact same plaid pattern on the original film...People who claim alteration where there was no alteration (Sandy Larsen) condemn themselves to Cinque land...
Larsen's image was better than Kamp's and I assume Larsen somehow got the original or accessed technology that was better able to resolve the current copy...The image Larsen used for his analysis zoomed closer in to the plaid and managed to capture the exact alternating red, black, white, and brown plaid bars and their uniqueness and then perfectly match them to the bars seen on Lovelady's plaid in other photos...The match was perfect and was proof beyond a doubt...Proof that shows you and Royell are full of it...When I told Larsen that he had therefore indirectly proven the time that Frazier said he was standing and staring in shock at Sarah Stanton by locating Lovelady & Shelley fast-walking up the extension Larsen went back and deleted his Education Forum thread containing the photo analysis of Lovelady's plaid bars...There is nothing too low for the clique on The Education Forum and they always get to rule on themselves and their own rank dishonesty...Iler is now enforcing that corruption and has the nerve to do it under a so-called strict set of rules...Jim DiEugenio is the Trump-like leader of that clique who managed to parlay that sordid corruption all the way to the point of presenting a knowingly-false Prayer Man theory before Congress...
Just to show how dishonest The Education Forum is the clique doesn't speak up and admit Larsen's original photo analysis or his dishonest deletion of it...And those people are judging ME!...You'll never see the rank hypocrite Mark Knight comment on this business or its significance in regard to The Education Forum's so-called purpose and rules...Knight is too busy banning for life the researcher who discovered the conspiracy evidence discovery of our generation on false rules violation charges...And the clique doesn't mind...
You are the one who is full of it.
Do you really think you can claim evidence you can't provide and probably doesn't exist?
What if everything you are saying is a lie? How do we know it isn't?
You've already lost all credibility regarding this topic and this claim about Larsen seems desperate and far-fetched.
And just to clarify, the image IS doctored. That's not in dispute. You have based your identification on this single, doctored image. That's not in dispute either.
What is in dispute is your dubious claim about Larsen's work.
Please provide evidence. Your word counts for nothing.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / LHO and Cuban Intelligence
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on October 03, 2026, 03:32:08 PM »From Time magazine Apr 26, 2017
Lee Harvey Oswald---By Olivia Waxman
After Lee Harvey Oswald shot President John F. Kennedy shortly after noon on Nov. 22, 1963, things moved quickly. About an hour later, Oswald fatally shot Dallas police officer J.D. Tippit. Thirty minutes after that, police found Oswald and arrested him. Two days later, on Nov. 24, Jack Ruby shot Oswald. And just a day after the assassination, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover had already expressed his preliminary finding that Oswald had acted alone.
The full Warren Commission report would later back up that finding — but more than a half-century later, polls have found that most Americans are not convinced of that fact.
That’s why former CIA operative Bob Baer launched an investigation into the declassified government files on the case.
As the above clip shows, on his six-part series JFK Declassified: Tracking Oswald — debuting Tuesday night on the History channel — Baer (seen in the clip above with former LAPD police lieutenant Adam Bercovici) attempts to demystify the link between Oswald and Cuban and Soviet operatives.
It’s no secret that, for example, Oswald went to a meeting at the Soviet embassy in Mexico eight weeks before he assassinated JFK, or that he tried to defect to the Soviet Union in 1959. But Baer pursues those leads, and further investigates Oswald’s connections to the Cuban dissident group Alpha 66, which had been infiltrated by Cuban intelligence officials who were reporting their activities back to Fidel Castro’s government. His conclusion is that, while Oswald acted alone when he fired the bullets that killed the President, his connections to Cuban and Soviet officials were deeper than is often assumed.
Ahead of the debut of his series, Baer spoke to TIME about why Oswald could have wanted to work with the Soviets and Cubans:
TIME: Why did you start looking into declassified government files on Lee Harvey Oswald?
BAER: I went through CIA files on it when I was working there, and there was Cuban-related stuff that didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. When I got into the CIA, George H.W. Bush signed a release [of files] to me, and the archives came back and said they couldn’t find [the files I requested] anymore. Documents on it that shouldn’t have disappeared had disappeared. So that raised an alarm bell. But what really got me into it was meeting a defector from Cuba and one of the best agents the CIA has ever had. He said that on the 22nd of November 1963, four hours before the assassination, he was at an intelligence site in Havana when he got a call from Castro’s office, saying, “Turn all of your listening ability to high frequency communications out of Dallas because something’s going to happen there.”
What are the biggest revelations in the documentary?
Our hypothesis was that the Cubans knew [about Oswald’s plan] in advance. We have eyewitnesses putting Oswald with Cuban intelligence in Mexico City. And the last people that Oswald was hanging out with before the assassination were Alpha 66. I do believe that, after the assassination, Oswald was heading for a safe house that was owned by Alpha 66. Now, according to the FBI, CIA and Cuban intelligence sources we talked to, in November 1963, info about anything that Alpha 66 did in the U.S. was sent back to Cuba. So if, in fact, Oswald told Alpha 66 he was going to kill the president — and we do have witnesses saying he told them this — then Castro knew. And the borders were all shut down at that point, so our assumption is he was going to this Cuban safe house, where he had been before. Whether the Cuban dissidents of Alpha 66 knew he was coming or not, we don’t know.
But I do not think that [Castro] furthered the plot. I think the Cuban dissidents reporting back to Havana informed him that there’s this American, Lee Harvey Oswald, who says he’s going to kill the president. The fact that this stuff has never been looked into I find extraordinary.
Why didn’t they?
The Warren Commission did mention it, but they just said that it was a coincidence that he met with the KGB’s head of assassinations for North America in Mexico City. They didn’t look into how peculiar it is for an American, on a weekend, to meet with three KGB officers during their time off. The Warren Commission said he only went to the Cuban consulate in Mexico City and met a local employee. But I believe his Cuban connections are much deeper than the Warren Commission shows. I think [the commission] just didn’t want to make that public. Johnson told the FBI that if they can’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Russians and the Cubans were involved in this, then they shouldn’t drag their suspicions into the public eye. But they sort of suspected it.
That reminds me of the discussion of whether the FBI should have shared its news from its investigations into Hillary Clinton’s email use or possible Russian involvement in the campaign prior to the election last fall. It’s this question of how and whether intelligence officials should talk about something that’s still ongoing.
Yeah it’s exactly like that; If you can’t prove it, don’t drag it out to the public. Except the [Oswald] evidence is stronger than so far what we’ve seen on Russia and its connections to the Trump campaign.
What was going on in Cold War history at this point that caused this controversy to play out the way that it did?
My assumption at the end is that Castro had every reason in the world to [want to] kill Kennedy. It’s risky if there are actual Cuban agents shooting the President, that’s Armageddon, nuclear war. But if you simply hear rumors of this, you don’t do anything. I’ve seen that happen in the CIA, where we heard stuff and didn’t pass the details to another government because it was a hostile government.
What about the Soviet side? Did you find any evidence that they encouraged Oswald?
There’s no evidence that the Russians took that risk, providing him money weapons or training, and I don’t think the Russians encouraged him. What we think is that they were like three times removed. I think they simply monitored Oswald as best they could. The Russians probably thought, “We can’t afford to deal with an American crazy person,” but Cuban intelligence deals with a lot of crazy people. The Cubans didn’t give money or guns to agents; they were just looking for fellow believers.
Why did Oswald want to defect to the Soviets in the first place?
I think he was at a dead end. He had a broken childhood, and he joined the Marines to become somebody. He wanted to become a historical figure, and he thought he deserved to be one. He needed some sort of anchor to his life and that thing in 1959 was communism. When he gets there [to the Soviet Union], they don’t want him at first. And when they have to accept him after he attempts suicide, they send them to Minsk. It’s sort of the end of the earth. He’s a factory worker, not what he expected at all, so he comes back. That’s the context of the whole series, what was going through his mind at each one of these steps.
Are there any unanswered questions you still have or now have after doing the documentary?
I’d look for further confirmation that Cubans knew about this to confirm our thesis. We don’t know exactly what the Cubans told him in Mexico City — was it to go back to Louisiana and Dallas and tell us what Cuban dissidents there were doing? And what did Oswald mean when he said he was a “patsy” when he was being questioned by the Dallas police? A patsy for whom?
I know the general relationship was that Russians and Cubans shared everything in those days. So did this get back to Moscow? I don’t know, I don’t have the evidence. Do I suspect it did? Yes. It’s sort of like if an American went to Syria, spent a month with the Islamic State, and came back and assassinates the President. Would anyone call him a lone wolf? That’s what happened with Kennedy.
---There is also a book written by Brian Latell, the CIA's national intelligence officer for Latin America from 1990 to 1994 and author Castro's Secrets: Cuban Intelligence, the CIA, & the Assassination of John F. Kennedy, that came out in 2013.
--30---
The LHO-DGI-G2 links were never really followed up by the WC; indeed were snuffed out. The HSCA-1979 did a little better, but Blakey was an old mob-hunter, and leads after nearly 17 years get harder to sniff out.
What is remarkable is how many people think the CIA perped the JFKA, or subscribe the to LNT...when in fact a number of clues point to Havana-Moscow.
Lee Harvey Oswald---By Olivia Waxman
After Lee Harvey Oswald shot President John F. Kennedy shortly after noon on Nov. 22, 1963, things moved quickly. About an hour later, Oswald fatally shot Dallas police officer J.D. Tippit. Thirty minutes after that, police found Oswald and arrested him. Two days later, on Nov. 24, Jack Ruby shot Oswald. And just a day after the assassination, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover had already expressed his preliminary finding that Oswald had acted alone.
The full Warren Commission report would later back up that finding — but more than a half-century later, polls have found that most Americans are not convinced of that fact.
That’s why former CIA operative Bob Baer launched an investigation into the declassified government files on the case.
As the above clip shows, on his six-part series JFK Declassified: Tracking Oswald — debuting Tuesday night on the History channel — Baer (seen in the clip above with former LAPD police lieutenant Adam Bercovici) attempts to demystify the link between Oswald and Cuban and Soviet operatives.
It’s no secret that, for example, Oswald went to a meeting at the Soviet embassy in Mexico eight weeks before he assassinated JFK, or that he tried to defect to the Soviet Union in 1959. But Baer pursues those leads, and further investigates Oswald’s connections to the Cuban dissident group Alpha 66, which had been infiltrated by Cuban intelligence officials who were reporting their activities back to Fidel Castro’s government. His conclusion is that, while Oswald acted alone when he fired the bullets that killed the President, his connections to Cuban and Soviet officials were deeper than is often assumed.
Ahead of the debut of his series, Baer spoke to TIME about why Oswald could have wanted to work with the Soviets and Cubans:
TIME: Why did you start looking into declassified government files on Lee Harvey Oswald?
BAER: I went through CIA files on it when I was working there, and there was Cuban-related stuff that didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. When I got into the CIA, George H.W. Bush signed a release [of files] to me, and the archives came back and said they couldn’t find [the files I requested] anymore. Documents on it that shouldn’t have disappeared had disappeared. So that raised an alarm bell. But what really got me into it was meeting a defector from Cuba and one of the best agents the CIA has ever had. He said that on the 22nd of November 1963, four hours before the assassination, he was at an intelligence site in Havana when he got a call from Castro’s office, saying, “Turn all of your listening ability to high frequency communications out of Dallas because something’s going to happen there.”
What are the biggest revelations in the documentary?
Our hypothesis was that the Cubans knew [about Oswald’s plan] in advance. We have eyewitnesses putting Oswald with Cuban intelligence in Mexico City. And the last people that Oswald was hanging out with before the assassination were Alpha 66. I do believe that, after the assassination, Oswald was heading for a safe house that was owned by Alpha 66. Now, according to the FBI, CIA and Cuban intelligence sources we talked to, in November 1963, info about anything that Alpha 66 did in the U.S. was sent back to Cuba. So if, in fact, Oswald told Alpha 66 he was going to kill the president — and we do have witnesses saying he told them this — then Castro knew. And the borders were all shut down at that point, so our assumption is he was going to this Cuban safe house, where he had been before. Whether the Cuban dissidents of Alpha 66 knew he was coming or not, we don’t know.
But I do not think that [Castro] furthered the plot. I think the Cuban dissidents reporting back to Havana informed him that there’s this American, Lee Harvey Oswald, who says he’s going to kill the president. The fact that this stuff has never been looked into I find extraordinary.
Why didn’t they?
The Warren Commission did mention it, but they just said that it was a coincidence that he met with the KGB’s head of assassinations for North America in Mexico City. They didn’t look into how peculiar it is for an American, on a weekend, to meet with three KGB officers during their time off. The Warren Commission said he only went to the Cuban consulate in Mexico City and met a local employee. But I believe his Cuban connections are much deeper than the Warren Commission shows. I think [the commission] just didn’t want to make that public. Johnson told the FBI that if they can’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Russians and the Cubans were involved in this, then they shouldn’t drag their suspicions into the public eye. But they sort of suspected it.
That reminds me of the discussion of whether the FBI should have shared its news from its investigations into Hillary Clinton’s email use or possible Russian involvement in the campaign prior to the election last fall. It’s this question of how and whether intelligence officials should talk about something that’s still ongoing.
Yeah it’s exactly like that; If you can’t prove it, don’t drag it out to the public. Except the [Oswald] evidence is stronger than so far what we’ve seen on Russia and its connections to the Trump campaign.
What was going on in Cold War history at this point that caused this controversy to play out the way that it did?
My assumption at the end is that Castro had every reason in the world to [want to] kill Kennedy. It’s risky if there are actual Cuban agents shooting the President, that’s Armageddon, nuclear war. But if you simply hear rumors of this, you don’t do anything. I’ve seen that happen in the CIA, where we heard stuff and didn’t pass the details to another government because it was a hostile government.
What about the Soviet side? Did you find any evidence that they encouraged Oswald?
There’s no evidence that the Russians took that risk, providing him money weapons or training, and I don’t think the Russians encouraged him. What we think is that they were like three times removed. I think they simply monitored Oswald as best they could. The Russians probably thought, “We can’t afford to deal with an American crazy person,” but Cuban intelligence deals with a lot of crazy people. The Cubans didn’t give money or guns to agents; they were just looking for fellow believers.
Why did Oswald want to defect to the Soviets in the first place?
I think he was at a dead end. He had a broken childhood, and he joined the Marines to become somebody. He wanted to become a historical figure, and he thought he deserved to be one. He needed some sort of anchor to his life and that thing in 1959 was communism. When he gets there [to the Soviet Union], they don’t want him at first. And when they have to accept him after he attempts suicide, they send them to Minsk. It’s sort of the end of the earth. He’s a factory worker, not what he expected at all, so he comes back. That’s the context of the whole series, what was going through his mind at each one of these steps.
Are there any unanswered questions you still have or now have after doing the documentary?
I’d look for further confirmation that Cubans knew about this to confirm our thesis. We don’t know exactly what the Cubans told him in Mexico City — was it to go back to Louisiana and Dallas and tell us what Cuban dissidents there were doing? And what did Oswald mean when he said he was a “patsy” when he was being questioned by the Dallas police? A patsy for whom?
I know the general relationship was that Russians and Cubans shared everything in those days. So did this get back to Moscow? I don’t know, I don’t have the evidence. Do I suspect it did? Yes. It’s sort of like if an American went to Syria, spent a month with the Islamic State, and came back and assassinates the President. Would anyone call him a lone wolf? That’s what happened with Kennedy.
---There is also a book written by Brian Latell, the CIA's national intelligence officer for Latin America from 1990 to 1994 and author Castro's Secrets: Cuban Intelligence, the CIA, & the Assassination of John F. Kennedy, that came out in 2013.
--30---
The LHO-DGI-G2 links were never really followed up by the WC; indeed were snuffed out. The HSCA-1979 did a little better, but Blakey was an old mob-hunter, and leads after nearly 17 years get harder to sniff out.
What is remarkable is how many people think the CIA perped the JFKA, or subscribe the to LNT...when in fact a number of clues point to Havana-Moscow.
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re: Am I the only one...
« Last post by Michael Capasse on October 03, 2026, 03:21:03 PM »The whole thing is completely insane. She was allowed to request an all female execution team because it was deemed too traumatic to put to death by a man. Too traumatic! You can't make that up. Her family will now probably sue and get millions. The leftists spend more time and energy attempting to thwart capital punishment than caring about American citizens who are assaulted and murdered by illegal aliens. They will spend years citing this as yet another reason not to allow capital punishment. It is an upside down world. Hopefully there is a full investigation and someone is held accountable. I find it very difficult to believe there was not some intent to undermine her execution.
How do you blame the left?TN is a Republican supermajority deeply RED state that has a recent track record of botching executions.
If you are going to execute - do it right.
Botched Executions in Tennessee
• October 2026 (Christa Pike): Prison officials halted the execution process after administering the lethal drug pentobarbital, and the inmate was subsequently transferred to a medical facility for care. Following the incident, Governor Bill Lee suspended all scheduled executions to allow for an independent review.
• May 2026 (Tony Carruthers): The execution attempt was halted when personnel were unable to successfully establish the required intravenous lines. The state subsequently granted the inmate a one-year reprieve.
• April 2022 (Oscar Smith): Governor Lee called off the execution shortly before it was scheduled to begin due to a technical oversight. An internal review later revealed that the execution drugs had not undergone testing according to the required state protocols
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Why did Debrueys introduce LHO to Smith and Roche?
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on October 03, 2026, 03:14:02 PM »The Cubans seemed to know in advance that JFK was in danger on 11/22
https://time.com/4753349/oswald-kennedy-declassified-documentary/
https://time.com/4753349/oswald-kennedy-declassified-documentary/
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re:Donald Trump is a Piece of Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh
« Last post by Tom Graves on October 03, 2026, 03:02:14 PM »Says the guy obsessed with the "KGB" and Russia. Your mind has not been affected by Putin or the KGB. You are under the propaganda influence of our own media and establishment politicians. They have used repetition of themes and hoaxes to generate TDS. I didn't agree with Biden or Obama but never had any deep-seated feeling of hatred toward them. TDS sufferers are unhinged on the topic of Trump. It's very personal to them for reasons that they can't explain acting under the influence of propaganda. The most common trait of TDS sufferers is anger and unhappiness.
Dear Herr Comrade Smith,
You're a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
Zombified by KGB disinformation to the Nth degree.
-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by John Corbett on October 03, 2026, 02:14:08 PM »This has to do with: (1) Time Stamping, and (2) JFK Assassination Urban Legends
If there's one thing you are familiar with, it's JFK Urban Legends. You've created enough of them.
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re: Am I the only one...
« Last post by Richard Smith on October 03, 2026, 01:40:10 PM »...who doesn't give a xxxx how much Christa Pike has suffered due to her botched lethal injection execution?
Why did we ever get rid of the electric chair. I don't recall problems like this coming up with Old Sparky.
The whole thing is completely insane. She was allowed to request an all female execution team because it was deemed too traumatic to put to death by a man. Too traumatic! You can't make that up. Her family will now probably sue and get millions. The leftists spend more time and energy attempting to thwart capital punishment than caring about American citizens who are assaulted and murdered by illegal aliens. They will spend years citing this as yet another reason not to allow capital punishment. It is an upside down world. Hopefully there is a full investigation and someone is held accountable. I find it very difficult to believe there was not some intent to undermine her execution.
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re: Donald Trump is a Piece of Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh
« Last post by Richard Smith on October 03, 2026, 01:35:18 PM »Dear Herr Comrade Smith,
Sixty-plus years of (your beloved?) KGB's disinformation (e.g., Oliver Stone's "JFK," imho), "active measures," and strategic deception counterintelligence ops waged against us and our NATO allies paved the way for "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin's installing his favorite "useful idiot" (or worse), The Traitorous Orange You-Know-What, as our so-called president on 20 January 2017.
How did you ever get so twisted, Herr Comrade Smith?
-- Tom
(TDS = Trump Disinformation Sanitizer)
Says the guy obsessed with the "KGB" and Russia. Your mind has not been affected by Putin or the KGB. You are under the propaganda influence of our own media and establishment politicians. They have used repetition of themes and hoaxes to generate TDS. I didn't agree with Biden or Obama but never had any deep-seated feeling of hatred toward them. TDS sufferers are unhinged on the topic of Trump. It's very personal to them for reasons that they can't explain acting under the influence of propaganda. The most common trait of TDS sufferers is anger and unhappiness.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on October 03, 2026, 07:57:37 AM »I totally agree with you, Albert. And furthermore, that reopenkennedycase place never did you no favours, either. And furtherevenMORE, that deep politics forum
writing about ‘The Albert Doyle Operation’ (it’s right on top of the search engine! even above ‘Sherlock Holmes’ aka Conan Doyle-lol) really sunk pretty low, with Drago, Burnham & Co. leading the charge. I mean, the nerve of some people.
writing about ‘The Albert Doyle Operation’ (it’s right on top of the search engine! even above ‘Sherlock Holmes’ aka Conan Doyle-lol) really sunk pretty low, with Drago, Burnham & Co. leading the charge. I mean, the nerve of some people.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Jack Nessan on October 03, 2026, 04:54:16 AM »Witnesses have given us numerous versions of what happened but there is only one right version and Kinney's ain't it.
That is just wrong.
SA Sam Kinney
11/22/63
I was driving SS 679-X, follow-up. As we turned off Main Street (left) about 4 minutes from our destination of Trade Mart. The first shot was fired as we were going into an underpass. The first shot was fired, I glanced from the taillight of SS 100-X, at the President and it appeared that he had been shot because he slumped to the left. Immediately he sat up again.* At this time the second shot was fired and I observed hair flying from the right side of his head. With this, simultaneously with the President's car, we stepped on the gas. I released the siren at that time. I did hear three shots but do not recall which shots were those that hit the President.
*At this time Clint Hill jumped off and ran to the President's car, jumped on the back, and laid out across the trunk in a prone position where he rode the entire trip to the hospital.
Notice the date 11/22/63. The statement was made immediately after the assassination. SA Kinney clearly stated shot 1 JFK reacts by slumping to the left, shot two is the head shot. States shot two Clint Hill is running to JFK’s limousine. Exactly what is viewed in the Zapruder Film. Exactly, and without any strange interpretations of Gov Connally’s movements and some supposed fictional shot that no one heard and which there is no evidence that it ever happened and you are unable to pinpoint as to when it took place.
Aren't you the guy who always claims the Zapruder Film is the official record. It could not be any clearer when SA Kinney narrates the assassination and uses the actions of SA Clint Hill as viewed on a number of peoples films of Hill jumping on the car to prove it
Maybe it is time to wake up and come to reality, JFK was struck by the first shot. Then SA Kinney clearly states the second shot was the headshot, and at which point in time Clint Hill jumps on the back of the car. Clint Hill also stated there were only two shots.
Finally, another shot is just thrown in with no correlation to the rest of the statement. Completely outside of what SA Kinney thinks the shot sequence is that he has just witnessed. An example of medias Influence, according to the WC and HSCA conclusions and their stated belief that due to the medias reporting, the witnesses inflated the number of shots.
This whole nonsense that the witnesses did not know what was going on is just pure crap because you can’t face the reality the early missed shot is completely wrong. Dreamt up by a group of make believe experts with no real grasp of what had taken place. They also ignored what all the witnesses stated and look how stupid it makes them look.