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You can also see the empty surface street between Fedora Man & Purse Woman and this car that is parked on the other side of the Elm Street Extension


The empty surface we see between Fedora Man & Purse Woman is the concrete island. The “getaway car” is parked close to the north curb of that island and blocks the camera’s view of the street surface.



  Fedora Man and Purse Woman were standing between the above 2 poles on the Wiegman Film. As we can see, there is very little of the Island behind these 2 poles. The Wiegman Film shows the surface street well behind these 2 poles. That is because there is not a 17+ foot long car, standing 5 feet high parked on the curb there. Not yet!
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The poles are NOT directly in line with each other.

However they ARE directly in line with each other (and Weigman’s camera) in this image:



   This is Fedora Man and Purse Woman standing on the (L) of the traffic signal pole. We can clearly see well behind them. In fact, we can even see the lane of the Elm St Extension that runs directly into the railroad yard. This is because there is not a 17+ Foot long car parked at the curb behind them. Not yet!
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  Again, this car with the arrow pointing at it is parked on the Other Side of the Elm St Extension. It is facing the railroad yard. That car is seen on the National Geographic presentation showing Amos Euins sitting inside Inspector Sawyer's car. The red TAIL LIGHT of this car matches up perfectly with a car parked in front of Inspector Sawyer's car. You can also see the empty surface street between Fedora Man & Purse Woman and this car that is parked on the other side of the Elm Street Extension,



You can also see the empty surface street between Fedora Man & Purse Woman and this car that is parked on the other side of the Elm Street Extension


The empty surface we see between Fedora Man & Purse Woman is the concrete island. The “getaway car” is parked close to the north curb of that island and blocks the camera’s view of the street surface.



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Have you actually looked at the National Geographic film snippet showing Amos Euins sitting inside Inspector Sawyer's car? The car on the other side of the street is easily seen in that snippet. The telltale taillight/brake light too.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

You're such a lousy communicator.

When you say, "the car on the other side of the street," I guess you mean some car parked on the TSBD side of Elm Street Extension.

If so, what makes you think the two light-colored cars (one of which appears to be a Ford and the other of which is almost completely obscured by the front of Sawyers' car) in the National Geographic film were parked there when Wiegman and Darnell were filming about an hour earlier during the shooting?

In the Wiegman clip, the decorative horizontal "scalloped" part of the rear panel of your 1958 Pontiac Bonneville Abandoned Getaway Car can be seen immediately to the left of the crossed arm of "Fedora Man on the Island."

You mistakenly believe that that distinctive part of your 1958 Pontiac Bonneville Abandoned Getaway Car is part of another car on the other side of Elm Street Extension in the Wiegman film.

Charles has already pointed out not only the "scalloped area" of the 1958 Pontiac Bonneville in the Wiegman clip, but its right front tire and windshield as well.

Bottom line: Your "Abandoned Getaway Car" in Darnell was there all along!

Get over it and try to cook up some other tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theory now.

This one has been blown out of the water, dude.


-- Tom
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What other thread was it debunked in? I'd like to see Royells research in this area.

Click on "A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys" and knock yourself out.
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    Have you actually looked at the National Geographic film snippet showing Amos Euins sitting inside Inspector Sawyer's car? The car on the other side of the street is easily seen in that snippet. The telltale tail light/brake light too. This car "claim" was thoroughly debunked before I posted this discovery, and then debunked again in another thread on this forum.

What other thread was it debunked in? I'd like to see Royells research in this area.
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Dear Sonderführer Storing,

You're mistaken.

You're "seeing" what you desperately need to see.

Just admit that you were wrong , . . .  if you've got the cajónes to do so.

-- Tom
   
    Have you actually looked at the National Geographic film snippet showing Amos Euins sitting inside Inspector Sawyer's car? The car on the other side of the street is easily seen in that snippet. The telltale tail light/brake light too. This car "claim" was thoroughly debunked before I posted this discovery, and then debunked again in another thread on this forum. 
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That yellow arrow is pointing to the REAR END of a car parked on the other side of the street. The circular thing you see is a Large Tail Light/Brake Light on the car. And you can see nothing but the surface street between the people standing there and this car. This is because the car is on the other side of the street.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

You're mistaken.

You're "seeing" what you desperately need to see.

Just admit that you were wrong , . . .  if you've got the cajónes to do so.

-- Tom
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Note: The above comment refers to the first post on this page which includes a frame from the Wiegman film that was posted a bit earlier by Charles Collins.

Charles drew one yellow arrow and one red arrow on said frame. The yellow arrow is pointing towards the upper horizontal line that all 1958 Pontiac Bonnevilles have in that "scalloped" part of the car.

  That yellow arrow is pointing to the REAR END of a car parked on the other side of the street. The circular thing you see is a Large Tail Light/Brake Light on the car. And you can see nothing but the surface street between the people standing there and this car. This is because the car is on the other side of the street.
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Excellent work, Charles!

Note the distinctive horizontal line which is a little above the yellow arrow and is a continuation of "Fedora Man's" crossed forearm in this frame from the Wiegman clip. There's another horizontal line below it which is harder to make out because it's in the shade from an overhanging tree branch.

These two horizontal lines, which are about a foot-and-a-half apart, delineate the light-colored recessed area from the darker color of the main body.

Google "1958 Pontiac Bonneville" to see more examples of this design feature.


Note: The above comment refers to the first post on this page which includes a frame from the Wiegman film that was posted a bit earlier by Charles Collins.

Charles drew a yellow arrow pointing to the rear panel of the "Abandoned Getaway Car," a red arrow pointing to the top of the windshield, and a green arrow pointing to the passenger's side front tire.The yellow arrow is pointing towards the upper of two horizontal lines that all 1958 Pontiac Bonnevilles have in that "scalloped" area.
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