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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Who was Joseph Milteer?
« Last post by Ben McKenna on December 16, 2025, 12:35:27 AM »
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UPDATED  Joseph Milteer (1902‐1974), of Quitman, GA, was a racist right‐wing extremist activist who hated
President Kennedy insanely and spent his life combating the Civil Rights movement. On Nov. 9, 1963, 13
days before the Kennedy assassination, Milteer had a lengthy conversation in a Miami, FL apartment
with a childhood friend, Willie Somersett, in the course of which Milteer told Somersett about a plot
that was afoot to assassinate JFK. Unknown to Milteer, Somersett, a secret informant for local Miami
police, was surreptitiously tape‐recording the conversation.
In that conversation Milteer confided that the killing of Kennedy “was in the working;” that the
president could be killed “From an office building with a high‐powered rifle;” that the rifle could be
“disassembled” to get it into the building; and that “They will pick up somebody within hours
afterward, if anything like that would happen, just to throw the public off.”

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https://flagpole.com/news/news-features/2013/10/23/the-georgian-who-knew-a-sniper-would-kill-jfk

https://stevenhager.net/2013/11/29/joseph-milteer-is-a-key-to-the-jfk-assassination

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Foreknowledge_of_the_Assassination.html

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Predictions_of_Joseph_Milteer.html

https://maryferrell.org/pages/Transcript_of_Milteer-Somersett_Tape.html

https://ia902804.us.archive.org/22/items/McAdams_JFK/milteer.htm

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/infojfk/jfk6/milpho.htm

https://cuban-exile.com/doc_051-075/doc0062e.html

https://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/fac_pm/178

https://www.tpaak.com/a-plaza-full-of-mirrors


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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on December 16, 2025, 12:33:17 AM »
I am not sure why you think that Roselle and Scearce's speculations on how difficult it might be to recognize source direction of a gunshot sound are of any value.  They even admit that this comment was speculative.

The fact is that human brains rely on both ears to determine sound source. The brain detects time differences between the arrival of a sound wave at each ear to determine lateral position of the source.  Our ability to detect that a sound is coming from behind instead of the front is facilitated by the shape of our ears.  Here is the Wikipedia page on Sound Localization and here is a paper dealing with experiments on people that may be of interest.  I expect that ability to determine direction of sound is an important survival mechanism that has been highly conserved over millions of years.

The problem with detecting an actual source arises when there are nearby reflective surfaces that cause multiple wave fronts to arrive at the ears at slightly different times. Nevertheless, most witnesses, particularly those near the corner of Elm and Houston, had little difficulty in determining the direction of the source. For example, Dearie Cabell instinctively looked directly up from where she was facing (which was to her right toward the right front seat) and saw the rifle in the 6th floor window as they were already making the turn.  She said (7 H 486):

Mrs. CABELL.. I heard the shot, and without having to turn my head, I jerked my head up.
Mr. HUBERT. Why did you do that?
Mrs. CABELL. Because I heard the direction from which the shot came, and I just jerked my head up.
Mr. HUBERT. What did you see?
Mrs. CABELL. I saw a projection out of one of those windows. Those windows on the sixth floor are in groups of twos.
Mr. HUBERT. In which window did you see the projection?
Mrs. CABELL. I have always been a little confused about that, but I think it was the first window.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=3572034979706767&set=g.553546571932211

In five studies of earwitnesses' shot locations, the choice "other than the TSBD or the Grassy Knoll" ranged from about 5% in one study (by Stuard Galanor; 111 witnesses), 14% in two studies (by John McAdams, 112, and Josiah Thompson, 75) 26% (by the HSCA, 75), and 50% (in a study by Joel Grant, 104).
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Got it. So only you can understand this massively complex web of intrigue! Isn't that nice for you! Do you have any actual evidence -- not circumstantial, not hearsay, not rumors -- that Lee Oswald was EVER utilized by the Louisiana mafia for anything at all? I won't hold my breath.

Instead of boring people here, perhaps you should self-publish a book.

You could title it "I Don't Know."
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gus Russo's View on JFKA
« Last post by Ben McKenna on December 16, 2025, 12:19:13 AM »
After the shooting Oswald is winging it, wandering around Dallas with no purpose. It all seemed so last second.

Exactly how how Joseph Milteer said it would happen...

The soldier was one of Oswald's handlers. Oswald was their target. He had no confederates, only handlers.
I don't understand why everyone thinks he was some kind of cosmopolitan international James Bond.


On Nov. 9, 1963, 13 days before the Kennedy assassination, Milteer had a lengthy conversation in a Miami, FL apartment
with a childhood friend, Willie Somersett, in the course of which Milteer told Somersett about a plot
that was afoot to assassinate JFK. Unknown to Milteer, Somersett, a secret informant for local Miami
police, was surreptitiously tape‐recording the conversation. In that conversation Milteer confided that the killing of Kennedy “was in the working;” that the president could be killed “From an office building with a high‐powered rifle;” that the rifle could be “disassembled” to get it into the building; and that “They will pick up somebody within hours
afterward, if anything like that would happen, just to throw the public off.”

Joseph Milteer stopped by the soldier's house in Mississippi in November of 1973, exactly 10 years after the assassination. They drank a few shots of whiskey and discussed the Citizen's Council. Four months later in February 1974 he was fatally injured in a "camping stove accident".
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on December 16, 2025, 12:16:43 AM »
I can't get past her hawk-like bill.

I can't get past your obtuseness.
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I'm only describing one small cog in a much larger machine. I am far from understanding any of it. I don't know what they recruited him for. Was he a marksman? I have no idea. I guess you could call it complex to some degree.
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If you are not from the area there's no possible way you could present a clear picture of the plot. This study requires the observer to to understand many aspects of Louisiana life, local politics, and family connections. Not only that, it would require a rudimentary understanding of the Mafia families that operated in the area to include the families that lived between New Orleans, Biloxi, and Miami. Any view from the outside will be obscured and most observations flawed.

Got it. So only you can understand this massively complex web of intrigue! Isn't that nice for you! Do you have any actual evidence -- not circumstantial, not hearsay, not rumors -- that Lee Oswald was EVER utilized by the Louisiana mafia for anything at all? I won't hold my breath.
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One of the men in the photo in my article was a very powerful Sicilian mob boss who's family controlled vice on the Mississippi Gulf Coast from the 1920's to the 1970's. He was a lieutenant in the organization until his uncle died in the early 70's. He took over the organization and brought about reform. He was vehemently opposed to the cocaine trade and deplored cheating. He purged Dixie mafia elements who were involved with drugs and human trafficking. To put it in perspective, Mickey Gillich (Kingpin of the Dixie Mafia) had to pay him protection money (pizzo) because the Italian mob controlled  Mississippi Coast gambling activities, alcohol sales, cigarette sales, and even pinball machines. He attended Catholic mass every Sunday.

What does any of that have to do with Lee Oswald?
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If you are not from the area there's no possible way you could present a clear picture of the plot. This study requires the observer to to understand many aspects of Louisiana life, local politics, and family connections. Not only that, it would require a rudimentary understanding of the Mafia families that operated in the area to include the families that lived between New Orleans, Biloxi, and Miami. Any view from the outside will be obscured and most observations flawed.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gus Russo's View on JFKA
« Last post by Ben McKenna on December 15, 2025, 10:05:39 PM »
One of the men in the photo in my article was a very powerful Sicilian mob boss who's family controlled vice on the Mississippi Gulf Coast from the 1920's to the 1970's. He was a lieutenant in the organization until his uncle died in the early 70's. He took over the organization and brought about reform. He was vehemently opposed to the cocaine trade and deplored cheating. He purged Dixie mafia elements who were involved with drugs and human trafficking. To put it in perspective, Mickey Gillich (Kingpin of the Dixie Mafia) had to pay him protection money (pizzo) because the Italian mob controlled  Mississippi Coast gambling activities, alcohol sales, cigarette sales, and even pinball machines. He attended Catholic mass every Sunday. 
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