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It appears to me that her shoulders show that her torso is heading in the general direction of Zapruder's camera. And her head appears to be turned to the right about 90-degrees such that her face is pointed over her right shoulder. There is no way to know from this image where her eyes might be directed. However if she were looking in the same direction that her face is facing, then she could be looking in the general direction of the TSBD and also at this same time she could be looking in the general direction of the limo. In other words, from Rosemary's POV, both the limo and the TSBD would appear to be in her vision if she was looking in the same direction that her head appears to be turned.

Later edit: Take a look at the Willis 4 photo to give yourself an idea of what Rosemary might have been looking at. Of course her eyes could have been looking further right and up. But I don't believe that we have any way of knowing this with any certainty.

Second later edit:  What I find interesting is, when looking at the excellent animated GIF by Gerda Dunkel, it appears to me that Rosemary continues to look in the direction of the TSBD (instead of following the limo); which I think strongly suggests that Rosemary actually was looking at the TSBD. Then, after about 3.8 seconds (at about Z214), Rosemary finally snaps her head about 90-degrees to the left and faces towards the limo's position at that point in time.

[emphasis added]

Thanks, Charles.
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[Please] tell us who or what Rosemary Willis is looking at Z-145.

I can tell you what she wanted to look at but wasn't: The Limo.
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Dude:

It is the "GK smoke-and-bang show."

As you are a man of divine and infinite capacities, tell us who or what Rosemary Willis is looking at Z-145.

And did Billy Barty have a foot stool, when he fired upon JFK from behind the stockade fence?
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TG-

"Why are you even here?"

To kneel at your knee, and imbibe your omniscience.

In the broader scheme of things, we could start with the European immigration to North America, born off religious intolerance, or perhaps we need to start with the migration of Cro-Magnon man from Western Asia into Europe, and then the Teutons and Angles into England.

Of course, there is no end to this explanation, back into the very murks of the start of life on earth, and the big bang theory and then before that....

You forgot the flash-bang and smoke in the bushes.

Regardless, I've added another possible answer in the poll.
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TG-

"Why are you even here?"

To kneel at your knee, and imbibe your omniscience.

In the broader scheme of things, we could start with the European immigration to North America, born off religious intolerance, or perhaps we need to start with the migration of Cro-Magnon man from Western Asia into Europe, and then the Teutons and Angles into England.

Of course, there is no end to this explanation, back into the very murks of the start of life on earth, and the big bang theory and then before that....
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on November 27, 2025, 10:21:56 AM »
The point is that between Z-202 and Z-205, Rosemary Willis turns her head so that her hood opening moves from facing to her right to facing behind her.

So?

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She makes no turn of head prior to that.

She starts turning her head in the general direction of the TSBD in Z-140, about one second after Oswald's first, missing everything, shot at "Z-124."

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You are suggesting that she is looking behind her prior to Z-202 even though her hood is facing to her right.


Your sentence makes no sense.

I'm suggesting that Rosemary Willis is looking not at the limo, but in the general direction of the TSBD from Z-145 to Z-214 -- as Charles Collins has pointed out in the new poll on the subject -- at which time, 3.8 seconds later, she finally snaps her head to her left and starts looking at the limo.

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Since we can’t see her face we can’t be sure where her eyes are looking.

Correct, but we can see that she's not looking at the limo; we can see that she's looking in the general direction of the TSBD.

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If she is looking behind her [at] the TSBD [in] Z-145 - Z-202, why would she then turn farther to her right rear at Z-202?

Perhaps I should have said, "She's looking in the general direction of the TSBD from Z-145 (at least) to Z-214."

Does that work for you?
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The lunch remains found by the two-wheeler are Bonnie Ray's lunch remains.

Studebaker is clear that there was only one set of lunch remains found on the 6th floor.

How is it these same lunch remains were initially discovered on top of the Sniper's Nest?

The lunch remains photographed by Studebaker by the two-wheeler at the end of the third aisle, in front of the third set of windows from Houston Street, were initially discovered by Luke Mooney on top of the Sniper's Nest.

This means two things:

1] When Bonnie Ray finished his lunch, he left the remains on top of the Sniper's Nest. Why would he do that?

2] These lunch remains were removed from the Sniper's Nest and placed by the two-wheeler truck shortly after their discovery. Who did that and why?

Five of the first officers on the scene after [after what? Mooney described the lunch remains as being in the area of the Sniper's Nest. At least two of these officers, along with Mooney, describe the lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest.

Bonnie Ray testified that he had his lunch by the two-wheeler truck, but his lunch remains were found on top of the Sniper's Nest, some 30 feet away.

By the time Fritz was on the scene, these lunch remains had been removed and placed by the two-wheeler truck.

What is going on here?

Why did the Warren Commission completely ignore the testimony/statements of the six officers who discovered the lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest?

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Where did Billy Ray Williams eat his lunch?

Inside the Sniper's Nest?

-- Tom
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Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Whose lunch bag did Kent Biffle find under the two-wheeler, not far from the empty bottle of Dr. Pepper two "sets" of windows over from Oswald's window, which lunch bag had chicken bones, a bit of Frito corn chip and some wax paper according to DPD Crime Scene Investigator Robert Lee Studebaker?

-- Tom

So, you've abandoned your silly notion that Bonnie Ray had his lunch in the third aisle then casually strolled over to the Sniper's Nest and left his lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest on his way to the 5th floor.
You are correct to abandon it, as it was nonsense.
The lunch remains found by the two-wheeler are Bonnie Ray's lunch remains. Studebaker is clear that there was only one set of lunch remains found on the 6th floor.
This is the problem, which I have no doubt you are going to continue ducking - HOW IS IT THESE SAME LUNCH REMAINS WERE INITIALLY DISCOVERED ON TOP OF THE SNIPER'S NEST?

The lunch remains photographed by Studebaker by the two-wheeler, at the end of the third aisle, in front of the third set of windows from Houston Street, were initially discovered by Luke Mooney ON TOP of the Sniper's Nest. Luke Mooney was the  officer who discovered the SN, the first person on that scene after the shooting.
This means two things:
1] When Bonnie Ray finished his lunch he left the remains of the lunch on top of the Sniper's Nest. Why would he do that?
2] These lunch remains were removed from the Sniper's Nest and placed by the two-wheeler truck shortly after their discovery. Who did that and why?

Five of the first officers on the scene after Mooney described the lunch remains as being in the area of the Sniper's Nest. At least two of these officers, along with Mooney, describe the lunch remains ON TOP of the SN.

Bonnie Ray testified that he had his lunch by the two-wheeler truck.
But his lunch remains were found on top of the Sniper's Nest, some 30 feet away.
By the time Fritz was on the scene these lunch remains had been removed and placed by the two-wheeler truck.

What is going on here?
Why did the Warren Commission Sham completely ignore the testimony/statements of the six officers who discovered the lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest?
Are you also going to ignore their testimony?


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JohnM

Wow, you're really bound and determined aren't you.

(British inflection)
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Clash of the Cults
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on November 27, 2025, 08:11:11 AM »
TG-

Verily, and I implied what you implied. And that implies what?

BTW, Valery is derived from the Latin root, Valerius, meaning "to be strong."

"Kostikov" is of Eastern European origin and means "descendant of Konstantin," which translates to "constant" or "steadfast".

Such a formidable fellow.
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