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In this image I have drawn a yellow arrow pointing at the right rear taillight area. That RR quarter panel appears to have shadows from the tree above; while the other car (beyond) appears to be in full sunlight. I drew a green arrow pointing at a wheel. And I drew a red arrow pointing at the top of the windshield. The windshield becomes more obvious in another frame where the light refraction bending the edge of the brick column is more visible (already posted earlier in this thread).

Excellent work, Charles!

Note the distinctive horizontal line which is a little above the yellow arrow and is a continuation of "Fedora Man's" crossed forearm in this frame from the Wiegman clip. There's another horizontal line below it which is harder to make out because it's in the shade from an overhanging tree branch.

These two horizontal lines, which are about a foot-and-a-half apart, delineate the light-colored recessed area from the darker color of the main body.

Google "1958 Pontiac Bonneville" to see more examples of this design feature.

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Look at the centre of the photograph Collins has posted here. There is a man in a black suit with his hands folded. To his right is a woman with a large handbag and she is looking towards the triple underpass. In-between this man and woman can be seen two cars overlapping.

The rear passenger quarter panel of the mystery car is visible.

The car was there all along 😎

Nice catch by Charles and you.

I'm surprised I didn't notice that overlap in Wiegman, myself, during the hours I spent "debating" Comrade Storing on the issue. But then again, I didn't have the "Husky 'Cop' Watches Charles V. Harrelson, E. Howard Hunt, and Charles Rogers Walk Past Him Dressed Like Three Tramps" photo to help me realize that those two light-colored cars "morphed" into one car from a certain perspective.

Yes, it’s there. The crystal clear photo by William Allen of the tramps helped in this regard. After viewing Allen’s photo then looking again at the Wiegman film frame it becomes more apparent.

The poles are NOT directly in line with each other.

However they ARE directly in line with each other (and Weigman’s camera) in this image:

Look at the centre of the photograph Collins has posted here. There is a man in a black suit with his hands folded. To his right is a woman with a large handbag and she is looking towards the triple underpass. In-between this man and woman can be seen two cars overlapping.

The rear passenger quarter panel of the mystery car is visible.

The car was there all along 😎

    This is why I recommended the elevated view of the poles. The poles are NOT directly in line with each other. Plus, that is a wrap-around corner. It is Not a right angle corner. And the big kicker is that other photos show a car did directly pull up to the "getaway" car. Front bumper- to- front bumper. I am not sure if this was intentionally done to pin the "getaway" in, or if there was nowhere else for this probable cop car to park.   

The poles are NOT directly in line with each other.

However they ARE directly in line with each other (and Weigman’s camera) in this image:

And that's the rub: There just doesn't seem to be a plausible innocent explanation for two well-dressed men coming down the stairs at 12:40-12:50. They obviously were not common laborers or else Mooney would not have assumed they were plain clothes law officers. The WC went of its way to establish that Mooney was the first law officer on the sixth floor. Yet, Ball simply ignored Mooney's account of two law officers on the stairs at a time when none were there and when none should have been there, and the Commission showed no interest in Harkness's encounter at the rear of the TSBD with men who claimed they were Secret Service agents.

10-20 minutes is plenty of time for other DCSD officers to enter the building, get up to a higher floor and come back down in time to meet Mooney. Also, Mooney may have just run into someone who worked in one of the publisher's offices in the TSBD, but whom Mooney took for a other deputies. Suits weren't uncommon businesswear in those days.

As for Harkness, he didn't run round to the back of the TSBD until after Euins had been seated in Sawyer's car. As Mr Storing has pointed out, film shows this occurring while the  TSBD's red gates are already closed. Dan O'Meara has shown that photographs show that those red gates are still open at 12:40 PM. Therefore, Harkness doesn't make it to the rear of the TSBD until after 12:40. Maybe even many minutes after 12:40.

At the same time, Forrest Sorrel's didn't hang around at Parkland for very long before he grabbed the first DPD car headed back to Dealey Plaza. Sorrel's testified that the car came down Houston, and that he exited the car and immediately entered the TSBD through the rear entrance. This would put him at the TSBD rear doors about the time that Harkness also showed up back there. The implication should be obvious.