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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:40:42 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 02:56:02 PM
Great find. I wonder what this does to Royell's narrative.


          JOHN -  Your jumping at this 1 grainy still frame tells me you have NOT Watched the entire Darnell Film. There is More Darnell Film Footage before/after this grainy still frame. That additional footage will answer your question(s). Again, please do ALL of the research. Once again, you are completely embarrassing yourself   
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 05:28:16 PM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 03:51:25 PM
So what if the shot pattern had a pattern that enabled you to remember the number of shots because there was one shot and a longish pause of about 4-5 seconds and then two rapid shots close together and this was clear in your mind. Would you think that your memory at the time you gave your statement was reliable
1. as to the number of shots?
2. as to the shot pattern?

I might or might not correctly remember the number of shots. Many people did. Some did not. Some people did not recognize the first blast as a gunshot. Brehm can be seen still clapping his hands after JFK had brought his hands in front of his throat and slumped over following the second shot. At that point he apparently was not aware there was gunfire.

I don't think I would accurately remember the shot pattern if I wasn't trying to discern the shot pattern at the time of the event. What reason would I have to do that.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:28:09 PM »
Quote from: Mitch Todd on March 13, 2024, 06:11:50 AM
Who said that Haygood used the radio on his own motorcycle? By 12:35, both Harkness and King had their three-wheelers on top of the rail yard. One of them is seen riding around in the rail yard in the Hughes film. He could have just borrowed their radios

                                                                        - YOU CAN'T RUN AWAY -

                                                            "He could have just borrowed their radios".

                                    See that above?  That's YOU. That's YOU talking about Officer Haygood. That's YOU Todd.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: "Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames
« Last post by Robin Unger on Yesterday at 05:23:02 PM »
Royell and John.

Thanks for the interesting comments.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The final shot... from the bridge...
« Last post by Jake Maxwell on Yesterday at 05:21:44 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on April 25, 2026, 11:59:52 PM
How dumb would the conspirators have to be to put a shooter on the overpass. That's even dumber than putting a shooter on the grassy knoll.

Pretty smart, actually...
He's in the very best place for a sniper... with a slowing object coming toward him (thanks to Bill "Rubbernecking" Greer applying brakes)... and hidden behind the bridge posts... similar to the practice of ancient forts...
Not to mention the gathering crowd on the scene, obviously thinking this area might be the source of the last shot...





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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:17:32 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 04:45:53 PM
Alex Cora got canned because his team which was expected to contend for the AL East championship was in last place with a 10-17 record. Firing the manager when a team is underperforming is the rule, not the exception. It has been that way for as long as I've been around and even before that.

As far as gambling is concerned, all major sports have decided that rather than fight it, they might as well embrace it. However, they still try to keep a wall between the gamblers and the participants. Two Cleveland Guardians players have recently received lifetime bans for violating the rule regarding to gambling. Similar bans have been handed down in other sports. As for Ohtani, he was the victim of that crime, not a participant. Since you are a dedicated conspiracy afficianado, it does not surprise me that you don't believe that.

   So the Red Sox canned Cora and his entire Offensive support staff Saturday AFTER they won 17-1? Seriously? If they were going to fire Cora for his teams' dismal record, why not fire him after being swept by the Yankees in Fenway Park last Thur night?
   You really are missing the boat with sports and the gambling industry. There have even been NBA Ref's caught with their hand in the cookie jar. I enjoy watching sports at all levels. That said, I know what I enjoy watching vs what is going down behind the scenes. And this includes the NBA basically being owned by Nike/China. You see what happens to any NBA player or front office members that even make an outta step "peep" about China? They get shunned outta the NBA on-the-spot. No ifs, ands, or butts about it.
   With respect to Ohtani. Are you familiar with his current 10 yr Dodger contract? Ohtani makes $70 million per year, every year, for 10 yrs. Out of that $70 Mill per year, $68 Mill is DEFERRED. Ohtani is only paid $2 Mill per year in Dodger $$. At the end of his 10 yr contract, the LA Dodgers will owe Ohtani $680 MILLION. Over a 1/2 $BILLION. MLB and the Dodgers will NOT Permit their PR Golden Goose to be tarnished in a gambling scandal that has been HQ'd in So Cal for well over a decade. This is an "open secret" in So Cal.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 05:05:12 PM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 03:34:44 PM
The head shot did not strike until after z312 was exposed.

The head shot would have to have been fired at Z311 or earlier to cover the 88 yards before striking JFK's head at Z313. That is based on an estimated average velocity of 2000 fps.
88 yards is 264 feet.
264 / 2000 = 0.132 seconds to cover the 88 yards.
1 / 18.3 = 0.546.... elapsed time for a single frame.
0.132 / 0.546... = 2.4156 frames for the bullet to travel 88 yards
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And the second was not as late as z275 because the forward recoil-like motion begins at z271-272. There is a change in the appearance of the wrist area between those two frames as well. Also there is this apparent movement of the left sunvisor:

and JFK’s hair flies up at z273-276 just as Hickey observed at the time of the second shot:

I expect may have taken a frame or two for the air movement from the bullet shock wave to reach the head and start lifting the hair.

I don't suppose you considered the possibility that JFK's hair movement could be cause by the fact he is in a moving open top car.
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From the beginning of z271 to the beginning of z313 is 42 frames or 2.3 seconds.  Are you suggesting that Oswald could not have fired the third shot 2.3 seconds after the second in a last desperate attempt to hit his mark? He wouldn’t even have to move the rifle held in place by the strap and boxes as the target moved a bit more to the right as it followed the left to right curve toward the underpass.

Oswald could have fired a shot 2.3 seconds after a previous shot as long as he didn't bother to take time to aim the rifle. The FBI determined it would take a shooter a minimum of 2.4 seconds between shots if the shooter took time to aim. Even that figure is a stretch since I seriously doubt Oswald was trying to fire as fast as he could, especially since he had on four rounds to start with. He would want to try to make every short count. He was able to do that on 2 of his 3 shots. He decided he didn't need to fire the fourth shot after he chambered his next round, reacquired his target, and then saw the devastating wound he had inflicted.

Try as you might, you aren't going to make your scenario work.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: "Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 04:49:11 PM »
Quote from: Robin Unger on Yesterday at 09:35:05 AM
"Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames



   ROBIN - Thanks for posting these "Death In Dealey Plaza" images. Gary Mack did a very good job with this presentation. I would be interested in the "cutting room floor" film footage from this presentation. Gary Mack did a Knoll "walk through" with Wiegman during this presentation. That "walk through" segment did jump around a little bit as they walked across the Knoll. I would have liked to have seen the entire step-by-step route that Wiegman took as he went up-and-down the knoll.
                In Trask's "Pictures Of The Pain", Wiegman claims to have seen SA Lem Johns up on the knoll. SA Johns claims to have jumped out of the LBJ SS Car. (No images of SA Johns on Elm St exist).  Johns is supposed to have Never left Elm St once he was outside of the LBJ SS Car. It would have been interesting to see Wiegman designate where on the knoll he saw SA Johns. And possibly, if Wiegman filmed SA Johns on his jiggly footage at any point.   
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 04:45:53 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 04:31:17 PM

 "Sports Center" and ESPN are nothing more than a Sports Betting "propaganda" hub. I turned it on last night to see how they were going to "spin" the "Boston Massacre" that went down with the mass terminations there. ESPN buried this story 20 minutes into "Sports Center". If you do Not believe this mass "disappearing" was Not connected to the "cheating" scandal that traces back to Mgr Cora's Astro days, I gotta bridge for you to buy. The entire sports world's connection to gambling can not be ignored. And MLB kept Pete Rose out of the Hall Of Fame due to his betting on his OWN TEAM to win? And this in the face of MLB circling the wagons around Ohtani regarding his Million $$ gambling issues? The sports world is now run through Vegas.

Alex Cora got canned because his team which was expected to contend for the AL East championship was in last place with a 10-17 record. Firing the manager when a team is underperforming is the rule, not the exception. It has been that way for as long as I've been around and even before that.

As far as gambling is concerned, all major sports have decided that rather than fight it, they might as well embrace it. However, they still try to keep a wall between the gamblers and the participants. Two Cleveland Guardians players have recently received lifetime bans for violating the rule regarding to gambling. Similar bans have been handed down in other sports. As for Ohtani, he was the victim of that crime, not a participant. Since you are a dedicated conspiracy afficianado, it does not surprise me that you don't believe that.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 04:31:17 PM »


 "Sports Center" and ESPN are nothing more than a Sports Betting "propaganda" hub. I turned it on last night to see how they were going to "spin" the "Boston Massacre" that went down with the mass terminations there. ESPN buried this story 20 minutes into "Sports Center". If you do Not believe this mass "disappearing" was Not connected to the "cheating" scandal that traces back to Mgr Cora's Astro days, I gotta bridge for you to buy. The entire sports world's connection to gambling can not be ignored. And MLB kept Pete Rose out of the Hall Of Fame due to his betting on his OWN TEAM to win? And this in the face of MLB circling the wagons around Ohtani regarding his Million $$ gambling issues? The sports world is now run through Vegas.
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