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Quote from: Michael T. Griffith link=topic=4 I'll736.msg173587#msg173587 date=1768394976
It's worth repeating the fact that every opinion survey done on the JFK case in the U.S. and Europe in the last 40 years, including ones done in the last five to 10 years, has found that 2/3 to 3/4 of the respondents have said they believe JFK was killed by a conspiracy and do not believe the assassination was the act of only one man.

What do you expect after sixty-two years of KGB disinformation, including Oliver Stone's self-described mythological ("to counter the myth of the Warren Report") "JFK," which was largely based on Jim Garrison's book, "On the Trail of the Assassins," which in turn was based on a KGB article published in a communist-owned Italian newspaper?

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Belief in the conspiracy view [...]

THE conspiracy view?

LOL!

Which one?

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[...] cuts across political party and ideological lines. Quite a few conservatives reject the lone-gunman theory. Henry Hurt, author of one of the best and most sober pro-conspiracy books ever written, Reasonable Doubt, was a staunch conservative. G. Robert Blakey, the HSCA chief counsel, was a conservative professor of law at the University of Notre Dame. Senator Richard Russell, an ardent Southern conservative and a member of the WC, rejected the single-bullet theory and did not believe that only one man was responsible for the assassination. Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, a conservative Republican from Florida, has been chairing the Luna Committee hearings on the JFK Records Act and firmly believes JFK was killed by a conspiracy. Many more examples could be cited.

There are gullible people on both sides of the political spectrum, Comrade Griffith.
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The replies of WC apologists in this thread show how detached from reality and serious research they are, with some of them making the specious argument that the alleged murder weapon would not have needed to be zeroed (sighted-in). They do this because they know they can't explain when and how their alleged lone gunman, Oswald, could have zeroed the alleged murder rifle.

When using a scope, you absolutely must zero the rifle so that the scope's point of aim matches the point of impact at a specific distance. This process requires a stable shooting platform and patience. WC staffer Wesley Liebeler admitted that the supposed murder weapon would have had to be zeroed to be usable during the assassination.

In a tacit admission that the rifle's scope was problematic at best, some WC apologists have resorted to arguing that their alleged lone gunman used the iron sights, since zeroing the rifle would have been less crucial when using the iron sights. However, Marine rifle expert MSG Zahm explained to the WC that using the iron sights would have made the shooting feat even more difficult, not to mention the fact that in the WC's rifle test the shots fired when the iron sights were used were wildly inaccurate.

There is also the fact that not one of the three Master-rated riflemen in the WC's rifle test even came close to duplicating Oswald's alleged shooting performance, even though they fired from only 30 feet up, fired at stationary target boards, did not fire in the cramped conditions in which Oswald would have had to fire, and took as much time as they wanted for their first shot. This rifle test is crucial because it was the only one that used the alleged murder weapon.

Lone-gunman theorists just ignore these severe problems with their theory and continue to post reply after reply that assumes that Oswald was the gunman and that his alleged shooting feat would not have been very difficult at all.




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It's worth repeating the fact that every opinion survey done on the JFK case in the U.S. and Europe in the last 40 years, including ones done in the last five to 10 years, has found that 2/3 to 3/4 of the respondents have said they believe JFK was killed by a conspiracy and do not believe the assassination was the act of only one man.

The percentage of people who still believe in the lone-gunman theory is not very much higher than the percentage of people who believe in the 9/11 Truther conspiracy theories.

Belief in the conspiracy view cuts across political party and ideological lines. Quite a few conservatives reject the lone-gunman theory. Henry Hurt, author of one of the best and most sober pro-conspiracy books ever written, Reasonable Doubt, was a staunch conservative. G. Robert Blakey, the HSCA chief counsel, was a conservative professor of law at the University of Notre Dame. Senator Richard Russell, an ardent Southern conservative and a member of the WC, rejected the single-bullet theory and did not believe that only one man was responsible for the assassination. Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, a conservative Republican from Florida, has been chairing the Luna Committee hearings on the JFK Records Act and firmly believes JFK was killed by a conspiracy. Many more examples could be cited.



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In my post of LHO as possible G2 KGB asset I mentioned Russell's book.

I may add on how the Ambassador to MX and a guy who worked in State both though Cubans were running LHO, and their views were pretty much snuffed out back in the 1964.

That is what is often forgotten---the WC LN narrative snuffed out leads domestic...and foreign.
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Looks like someone behind the window looking down at the action below...
And... is that a scope?




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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Robert Allen Lesh
« Last post by Charles Collins on January 13, 2026, 11:30:19 PM »
What researchers have identified this man as Robert Lesh as the Engineer man in DP? The man you've identified is not Robert Lesh.

https://jamesfday.medium.com/who-killed-robert-a-lesh-7360e52dea1c



Thanks Paul, I am trying to find out if the man in the engineer’s hat in the Dorman image has been identified. The A.I. response indicated he was Robert Lesh. That response doesn’t say which researchers identified him. It doesn’t surprise me that A.I. could be wrong. I have seen other instances where it was incorrect. I will change the image that I labeled accordingly.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Robert Allen Lesh
« Last post by Paul J Cummings on January 13, 2026, 09:36:39 PM »
What researchers have identified this man as Robert Lesh as the Engineer man in DP? The man you've identified is not Robert Lesh.

https://jamesfday.medium.com/who-killed-robert-a-lesh-7360e52dea1c
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The identity of the individual often referred to as the "engineer-hat man" (or sometimes "construction man" or "hard hat man") seen at the corner of Houston and Elm Streets in Dealey Plaza during the JFK assassination has been identified by researchers as Robert Lesh.
Robert Lesh was a construction foreman and pilot from Fort Worth who had skills in electronics. He went missing in 1968, and his body was later found in Eagle Mountain Lake. His death remains unsolved. This individual is separate from the well-known "Umbrella Man" and the "three tramps," who have also been subject to investigations and theories.

https://www.google.com/search?q=has+the+engineer-hat+man+on+the+corner+of+Houston+Street+and+Elm+Street+in+Dealey+Plaza+ever+been+identified&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari





Robert Allen Lesh, a Fort Worth man connected to the JFK assassination's Clean Towel laundry service, disappeared in 1968, his body later found in Mount Eagle Lake; his death was ruled a murder, with police finding surveillance/bugging gear in his trailer, suggesting he was involved in something risky, potentially leading to his murder by someone he angered, possibly tied to his past work with Clean Towel and its association with the Kennedy motorcade route.
Key Details:
Disappearance: Lesh went missing in 1968 from Fort Worth, Texas.
Discovery: His body was found in Mount Eagle Lake.
Investigation Findings: Police discovered bugging and photographic equipment in his mobile home, indicating he was involved in clandestine activities.
Suspected Motive: Authorities believed Lesh was "dealing in something" that angered someone enough to kill him.
JFK Connection: Lesh was linked to the Clean Towel and Linen Service Company, a laundry truck that was present near the JFK assassination site in Dallas, adding layers to his mysterious death.
Significance:
Lesh's murder remains a cold case, with his death raising questions about his involvement in potentially shadowy dealings and his connection to the infamous Clean Towel company, which has ties to the JFK assassination theories.

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+known+about+robert+lesh+of+ft.+worth+tx+who+went+missing+in+1968+and+his+body+found+in+Mount+Eagle+Lake&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari


I once believed that this could be Robert Lesh; but apparently AI was wrong:






I am asking if anyone knows more than I have found in these two AI questions and answers about the man in the Elsie Dorman film frame image above. Apparently AI is wrong and it isn’t Robert Lesh. Please respond if you have anything at all. Thanks.
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It's an undated CIA document from Oswald's CIA file, Volume 1, Folder 1.

I honestly forget now how I stumbled upon it.

I think I googled "prusakova" and "swallow" and "algerian" or some-such thing because I remembered reading years ago an allegation that she had been a KGB prostitute in Leningrad before she met Lee, and that one of her "assignments" was a guy from "Algeria" or "Albania" or some-such country.

Which is interesting, given what #26 says about a Moroccan boyfriend she had.

EDIT:

I couldn't copy-and-paste the doc to the Forum, so I printed it out, literally read it into Word, corrected typos, added a comment or two in brackets, and copied and pasted it here.

It's from an 82-page AARC PDF document that also has the name of the Mary Ferrell Foundation on the "cover sheet."

Title: Oswald 201 File, Vol 1, Folder 1
Author: n/a
Pages: 82
Agency: n/a
RIF#: n/a
Subjects: n/a
Source: AARC

Thanks. Its certainly an intriguing document.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Michael Capasse on January 13, 2026, 04:33:23 PM »
The next time Rubio hands him a note....
"Marco has just handed me a note...let's see what it says...'Do not read this one out loud'...."

:D
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