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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Viewing The Bored
« Last post by Tom Graves on November 20, 2025, 05:29:23 AM »

That's it.

That's the post.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Early Mark Lane
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on November 20, 2025, 02:14:22 AM »
MTG--

I have posted a video on EF-JFKA 1962 wherein JFK refers to 500 terror attacks, murders etc. a week by communists, against public officials and facilities in SV, then a nation of 13 million.

That would be 11,000 terror attacks every week in the present-day US, for comparison.

The communists mounted a terror campaign in SV, and such campaigns are hellish to defeat. The terrorists can strike anywhere--bus stops, factories, shopping areas, power lines, government offices, public officials, you name it. Then hide.

This goes on today in southern Thailand, facing Muslim terrorists.

Yet to beat the terrorists calls for very intense and sustained efforts that appear brutal. And even decent governments too are made up of men, who have flaws, and sometimes go to excess.

The left-wing is out to lunch on SV, and today on the Middle East.

Then, at the EF-JFKA, there are participants who appear tainted by Putin money.

Besides all that, one of the moderators there is an anti-Semitic crackpot.
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    If the person on the edge of this still frame is a male, he is wearing a coat that extends down to about the knee level. That would make it an Overcoat or Trench Coat. Zapruder was wearing a suit coat. The length of the coat DQ's the figure being Zapruder.

I think you are correct... The attire is not that of Zapruder or Sitzman...
Here's from the Paschal Film copy Duncan posted...


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Thanks, it's a no-brainer, it's Zapruder and Sitzman.

    If the person on the edge of this still frame is a male, he is wearing a coat that extends down to about the knee level. That would make it an Overcoat or Trench Coat. Zapruder was wearing a suit coat. The length of the coat DQ's the figure being Zapruder.   
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HSCA photo expert Cecil Kirk said at the mock trial that the fact that JFK's right arm is extended out and above in a straight-line in Z-199 suggests that he's just been shot.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z199.jpg

Then, of course, JFK disappears for more than a second behind the Stemmons Freeway sign.

In Z-222, however, we see John Connally, fully emerged from behind the sign, and he looks a bit unusual -- he's sitting "too upright," his right shoulder is lower than his left, and he's looking up at the sky.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z222.jpg

It looks to me as though he's been hit in the back and pushed forward a bit.

Or was JFK just "saluting" the folks on the other side of Elm Street?

Comments?

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on November 19, 2025, 10:42:26 PM »
Are you suggesting that it did not strike JBC's right radius and deposited small flecks of lead in the wound and made a jagged tear in his french cuff? And it is not as if the impact with the rib was minor. JBC said it felt like someone had given him a hard punch to the back.  That indicates a sudden change in momentum (sudden change in speed or direction or both).  It contacted the fifth rib in the right armpit with enough force to bend the rib causing a fracture farther up the rib toward the spine (see: Dr. Shaw interview, 1 HSCA 272; Ex. F-71) and then penetrated and destroyed the last 10 cm of that rib driving shards of bone into the lower lobe of the right lung.

Why do you find it hard to believe that JBC has already been hit in Z-230?

In which Zapruder frame do you think JBC was hit?
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I failed to mention the most important fact about the location of the back wound indicated by the rear clothing holes: If the bullet that hit the back at T3 had been fired from the sixth-floor window, its downward trajectory through JFK would have been at least 15 degrees, far below the throat wound. It is worth mentioning that the T3 location indicated by the clothing holes is corroborated by the official death certificate (marked "verified"), by the autopsy face sheet, by the eyewitness accounts of Secret Service agent Glen Bennett and military aide Richard Lipsey, and by the wound diagrams drawn by FBI agents Sibert and O'Neill, who spent at least two hours watching the autopsy, and by Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman, who attended the autopsy for the specific purpose of noting the locations of JFK's wounds.

The Croft photo at Z-161 shows JFK and JBC sitting at the correct angle to each other and to the sixth-floor sniper's nest for the CE-399 shot to "work."
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Andrew Mason on November 19, 2025, 05:47:05 PM »
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Which of course was a very, very different result from that caused by the only other bullet that passed through either man: CE-399 when it passed through JFK's and JBC's chests and hit only one bone in the process: JBC's 5th rib.
Are you suggesting that it did not strike JBC's right radius and deposited small flecks of lead in the wound and made a jagged tear in his french cuff? 

And it is not as if the impact with the rib was minor. JBC said it felt like someone had given him a hard punch to the back.  That indicates a sudden change in momentum (sudden change in speed or direction or both).  It contacted the fifth rib in the right armpit with enough force to bend the rib causing a fracture farther up the rib toward the spine (see: Dr. Shaw interview, 1 HSCA 272; Ex. F-71) and then penetrated and destroyed the last 10 cm of that rib driving shards of bone into the lower lobe of the right lung.
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