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   Funny that you would mention the "1st down line on the screen". That "line" is also Not, "Dead on balls accurate". Just like the game clock.
   And do Not get me started on the actual "spotting" of the football. That is "putzed" up very often. Sometimes on purpose. This was made obvious with this repeatedly being done in favor of the KC Chiefs during the NFL Playoffs.

I know that the first down line is not official. The officials on the field are not even aware of it. They spot the ball based on it's furthest forward progress point at the time the ball became dead. The problem is that putting that line down causes a brief discrepancy between the main camera and the other cameras and throws it out of sync with the scoreboard clock. I wasn't aware of that until this incident. Even though it is likely the main camera is the one that is off when there is a discrepancy between what the various cameras show, that is the one replay protocols should be accepted when there is a discrepancy of a fraction of a second. Replay was intended to correct obvious officiating errors. It was not intended to micro-manage the game down to the last fraction of a second. If two cameras show a different result, the call on the field is supposed to stand.

Officiating football is not an exact science. Often when the ball is spotted, the officials are taking an educated guess as to where the ball was when the runner was determined to be down. The same is true of timing issues. For sixty minutes, minor discrepancies in timing are not second guessed. Why should that be done at the end of the game? That is why replay protocols are created so that only obvious errors are corrected. Those protocols were not followed in the WM/UM game and WM was robbed of a victory their players had earned.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Deep Politics Forum
« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on Yesterday at 04:47:12 PM »
Oh dear, have got a lot of erasing to do, or maybe just leave it to remind me of how far I’ve come in this our life’s journey.  May all sentient beings be well +
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 04:42:37 PM »
Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Unfortunately, you (or some other knucklehead) have mislabeled Secret Service agent Glen Bennett as "Hickey" in this version of the Z-201 frame.

Why in the world did you do that?

-- Tom

PS George Hickey's washed-out image can be discerned behind (and slightly lower than) Clint Hill's (McIntyre is hidden behind Hill).

They are similarly situated in Z-150:

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z150.jpg

Poor little tommy.

As with every single point you make regarding this issue you are wrong.
When you grow up you might think to question this unfortunate pattern.
Do yourself a favour and watch the Zapruder film some time. It's full of interesting information regarding the assassination of JFK.
If you do you will see Hickey look over the side of the limo and return to the position shown in the image below (the real clue is that the person you think is Bennett isn't in z150. Think about that).



The point being made with this image is that it is from z207. Believe it or not there are some idiots who believe that the first, extremely loud, shot was fired 4 - 5 seconds before this image was taken.
4 TO 5 SECONDS!!
Yet all three men are facing forward at z207.
The problem is that all three men reported immediately reacting to the first shot by looking to their right and rear:

Landis - "I heard what sounded like the report of a high-powered rifle from behind me, over my right shoulder...", "My first glance was at the President, as I was practically looking in his direction anyway...", "I immediately returned my gaze, over my right shoulder."

Ready - "I heard what appeared to be fire crackers going off from my position. I immediately turned to my right rear trying to locate the source but was not able to determine the exact location."

Hickey - "I heard what seemed to me that a firecracker exploded to the right and rear. I stood partially up and turned to the rear to see if I could observe anything. "

Funnily enough, this is exactly what all three men are shown doing in Altgens 6 (equivalent to z255):



To anyone with a grain of intelligence this is really strong evidence that the first shot is after z207 and before z255.

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      BUMP - The above is about the ORIGINAL Darnell Film and ORIGINAL Wiegman Film.

Nobody cares.
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they own the films and will only give them to, say, documentary directors or people in the industry wanting to license the film.

      BUMP - The above is about the ORIGINAL Darnell Film and ORIGINAL Wiegman Film.
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You specialise in empty statements.
You daren't engage in debate because you're made to look a complete buffoon every time you try, so you come up with these nothing statements instead.

Are you trying to get people to take you seriously? It's not working.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 04:28:39 PM »
Typical bullets for handguns in 1963 were ordinary lead, especially for .38s.

Hollow points were rare to non-existent in 1963.

FMJ for more-powerful handguns did exist.

Do you just write things because they sound good to you? Hollow points and FMJ ammo has been available for handguns since the late 19th century.
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Only lead was detected on the curb strike near Tague.

Which is consistent with it being struck by the lead core of a FMJ round after it had first struck something else. What that something was we are left to guess at.
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Hard to see how FMJ's fired at the limo subsequently made a lead-only strike on the Tagee curb. I put very low odds, indeed vanishing, on that.

Your figuring is so screwed up that it has no connection to reality. It would require a wild miss for Tague to have been injured by a shot fired directly into the curb. It's also unlikely that the curb would only show a lead smear if it had been hit by a direct shot.
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The second official investigation into the JFKA, the HSCA, concluded there had been a gunshot at the GK.

The second official investigation was FUBAR.
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As a JFKA amateur-layman-hobbyist-buff, you are entitled to disagree.

Am I supposed to be grateful that you are permitting me to exercise my First Amendment protected rights. The First Amendment even protects your goofy opinions.
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Respectfully, I put more weight on the HSCA's findings than yours. That was a serious investigation, by a lot of smart and skeptical guys, many professionals. 

You apparently have a much higher regard for the intelligence of members of Congress than I do.
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Reasonable JFKA speculation is that a handgun, fired on the GK, could have send a lead slug towards Tague and the nearby curb.

There is nothing reasonable about that hypothesis. I suppose you could have come up with a nuttier conclusion, but it is hard to imagine how.
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Does that explain the Tague shot? It is a reasonable explanation. No more, no less than that.

It is bat-Helicopter :) crazy.
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No, the LNT'ers and CT'ers cannot prove their views.

Not on the Tague issue. On most issues, the LNs can prove their views. CTs, not so much.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 04:22:08 PM »
The above claims demonstrate why nobody should ever take anything you write serious. I doubt anybody does.

You specialise in empty statements.
You daren't engage in debate because you're made to look a complete buffoon every time you try, so you come up with these nothing statements instead.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Deep Politics Forum
« Last post by Brian Doyle on Yesterday at 04:18:17 PM »


It came back up...

There's a bunch of computer gibberish when the page appears but the site is below it and functions...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 04:15:52 PM »
Why wouldn't I accept it? Givens said that he saw Oswald on the 6th floor at about 11:55 AM. So what?

Why wouldn't you accept it??
Is that supposed to be a joke?
The reasons you wouldn't accept it have been laid out in Technicolor detail in this thread.
When grilled by Fritz and the FBI on the day of the assassination, Givens specifically never mentions seeing the prime suspect at the scene of the crime. The single, credible reason for this is that his story about returning to the 6th floor and seeing Oswald in the southeast corner is a later fabrication.
That is why you wouldn't accept it.
Because Givens was specifically grilled about his own movements and what he knew about Oswald and never mentioned it.
That's why.

And that this newly fabricated theory contradicts the well established, well documented elevator race story.
That's why you wouldn't accept it.

And "so what"??
So what that the Warren Commission fabricated/omitted evidence to create a false narrative??
So what?
Really?

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