JFK Assassination Forum

You tell me I have an odd concept of human anatomy and then make a statement as ridiculous as that. Here is Z271.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z271.jpg

You do realize that at z271 JBC's right side is "facing" toward the TSBD/Oswald.  I hope you realize that the right armpit is on the right side and that with his right arm up and in front of his chest the right armpit is exposed to a shot from the direction of the TSBD/Oswald.  The right scapula is not "facing" the TSBD/Oswald although the right edge of it is exposed to a shot from that direction. It is "facing" the grassy area between Elm and Main.  In any event, he was not hit in the scapula.

The back of his armpit is turned toward the grassy area between Elm and Main.

I am not sure what you mean by the direction the back of his armpit is facing.  The back of his armpit is a particular location.  It doesn't face anywhere. What matters is whether the back of his armpit was exposed to a shot from Oswald's rifle.  Not only was the back of his armpit exposed = the entire armpit was exposed.  If you think it wasn't, what on earth could have blocked it?

It would require the most magical of all magic bullets for a shot fired from the sniper's nest to enter the back of his right armpit and exit under his right nipple. Your continued refusal to even attempt to diagram such a shot is tacit admission of that fact.You're bonkers.

I have given you the diagram showing the exit location.  What more do you need?  It shows the bullet coming from the TSBD/Oswald direction. It shows the direction of the shoulders. It shows the location of the entrance and exit wounds. It shows the location of the forearm in relation to the exit wound.

I have reasonable doubts [...]

Fixed it for you.

That means he was shot in the back. He got shot when his back was turned toward the exit wound in JFK's throat.Which wouldn't have been possible if he was facing JFK and Oswald as he was in Z271. I'm not surprised you have resisted illustrating that since it is not possible.
JBC said it felt like someone had punched him IN THE BACK with a doubled up fist. We know how much you rely on witnesses.

You seem to have an odd concept of human anatomy.

The direction his face was facing is not material. What matters is that the back of the right armpit was "facing" Oswald at z271.

His back was twisted.  The lowest part was "facing" the back seat and shoulders were aligned with the car direction and "facing" sideways.  The parts in between were in between those directions.

The WC said CE-399 "tumbled" as it passed through Gov. JBC's wrist, after entering on the dorsal (wristwatch) side, and exiting from the ventral side, before entering JBC's thigh. The slug entered the dorsal side on JBC's wrist, after passing through his chest, contends the WC.

JBC's surgeon, Dr. Shaw, thought that was anatomically a difficult proposition, but let that go.

The CE-399 slug was found near the elevators outside JBC's operating room, says the WC, although JBC said the slug fell out of his leg inside the operating room, and hit the floor with an audible click.

That unusual chain-of-evidence problem aside, below you see a photo on the entrance hole on JBC's pant leg.

It appears the large CE-399 slug (1 and 1/4 inches long and 1/4 inch in diameter), after tumbling through JBC's wrist, then un-tumbled and then neatly tunneled through JBC's pant leg, leaving a small entrance hole. 

Well, that is the WC version.



I have reasonable doubts about the WC explanations of JBC's wounds.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

TC-

There is literature available online now, that was not available in 1963-4. Information not available to the WC, or anyone, probably.

Oh. It's on the internet. Everybody knows you can't put things on the internet that aren't true.

You can read James Woolsey's book, Operation Dragon: Inside the Kremlin's Secret War on America. I do not think the book is compelling, but it does raise issues. Woolsey is a former CIA director, so he has some street cred.

A conspiracy book. Another unimpeachable source.

You are smart guy, so do a lot on online searches for the US Ambassador to Mexico, Thomas Mann, and the State Department staffer in Mexico Charles Thomas, and what happened to them re the JFKA. Basically, they both lost their careers for merely wanting to follow leads into Cuba. Not comforting.

I will never understand why anyone would think Oswald's Mexico City trip had any connection to the assassination. NOBODY could have known at that time that fate was going to deal Oswald a chance to assassinate JFK.

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Gus Russo is a prominent investigative journalist and author who has specialized in the JFK assassination, specifically advocating for a theory involving Cuban intelligence (G2) and Lee Harvey Oswald.

Jack Anderson was "a prominent investigative journalist" who steered me wrong back in the 1980s. Why should I trust journalists now?

His research in this area was featured in a 2006 German documentary and his later books.

Are you trying to make your sources sound credible. It's not working.

Key Documentary: Rendezvous with Death: JFK & the Cuban Connection

Release/Background: This German documentary, released in 2006 (German title: Rendezvous mit dem Tod: Warum John F. Kennedy sterben musste), was written by Gus Russo and directed by filmmaker Wilfried Huismann.The G2 Theory: The film claims that the Cuban secret service (G2) organized the assassination of President Kennedy as retaliation for the Kennedy brothers' attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro (Operation Mongoose).

The G2 Theory: The film claims that the Cuban secret service (G2) organized the assassination of President Kennedy as retaliation for the Kennedy brothers' attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro (Operation Mongoose).

Oswald's Role: According to the documentary, Lee Harvey Oswald was an unstable, self-styled pro-Castro marxist who was "contracted" or encouraged to kill JFK by Cuban agents after he made contact with them in Mexico City.

How did those agents know Oswald was going to be handed the opportunity to kill JFK?

Evidence Cited: The film features interviews with former Cuban G2 spies, KGB files, and archival research from Mexico. A key source was former Cuban G2 official Oscar Marino, who claimed Castro "got Kennedy before Kennedy could assassinate the Cuban leader".

How did Castro know Oswald was going to be handed the opportunity to kill JFK?

Key Finding: Russo argues in the film that Oswald, while acting as the lone gunman, was encouraged by Cuban Intelligence, who viewed him as a "disposable" asset to protect Cuba.

Same question as above?

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You can find the above film on Youtube. It is a fun film to watch anyway.

I'll pass.

Re the Katzenbach memo?

I would find more comfort if the Katzenbach memo said something to the effect: "No matter where the chips fall, the most important client is Truth, and finding out, and then disclosing, everything about the JFKA."

Maybe he should have written something like:
"It is important that all of the facts surrounding President Kennedy’s Assassination be made public in a way which will satisfy people in the United States and abroad that all the facts have been told and that a statement to this effect be made now."

Oh, wait. He did.

Also, the memo was not made to the WC. It was sent to Bill Moyers. The memo was not the WC's marching orders as many CTs would have us believe.

Instead, on Nov. 25 1963 Katzenbach was concerned about how to sell the LN theory to the public.

I have reservations about the LN JFKA theory.

Your reservations are not a litmus test for the credibility of the WC's findings.