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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: CIA Wallets at Tenth and Patton
« Last post by John Corbett on August 06, 2026, 10:17:11 PM »
Completely unnecessary. The WC provided all the evidence necessary to convince any person with common sense Oswald was the assassin.

In your humble opinion, of course, right?

PS. I don't give a shit about the wallets.

Yes, we already knew. You only care about "evidence" that points to a predetermined conclusion.

But thank you for confirming that there was indeed more than one wallet.

Going around asking, "What about this? What about that?", doesn't cut it.

Of course it does. It shows clearly just how superficial and shallow your flawed opinions are. You can't even answer a simple question!  :D

You are not fooling anybody, except perhaps yourself. But that's just my humble opinion.

Troll
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Hill heard the first shot.
He also heard the second shot.
He doesn't remember hearing the third shot as he had a lot on his plate at that moment, including stopping Jackie from jumping off the back of the limo.

More Looney Tunes.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on August 06, 2026, 10:11:09 PM »
Remind us all again, what is the evidence CE399 was found at Parkland?
Remind us all again of the chain of custody for the bullet fragments found in the limo.

And, just to state the obvious, even to a cretin such as yourself, various bullet fragments DO NOT constitute a single bullet.

And your truly moronic understanding of Hoover's influence over the FBI is unbelievable.
Hoover WAS the FBI. End of story. What he said was gospel.
Your attempt to make him look like some kind of inept figurehead shows your utter ignorance regarding, not just this case, but American history in general.

I don't know if you are feigning ignorance or are really that clueless.

The official chain of custody described in the Warren Commission Exhibits and other records is as follows:

Discovery – The bullet was found by Parkland orderly Darrel Tomlinson on a stretcher (later identified as stretcher “B”) in the hospital corridor.

Handover to Security Chief – Tomlinson summoned Parkland security chief O.P. Wright, who took possession of the bullet.

Transfer to Secret Service – Wright delivered the bullet to Special Agent Richard Johnsen of the Secret Service.

Handover to Secret Service Chief – Johnsen gave the bullet to Chief James J. Rowley of the Secret Service.

Transfer to FBI – Rowley delivered it to FBI agent Elmer Todd, who passed it to FBI crime lab agent Robert Frazier.

Chain of Custody – Frazier and others who handled it initialed the bullet, creating a legal chain of custody.

The next time you need to learn basic facts of the JFKA explained to you, try using AI.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on August 06, 2026, 10:01:51 PM »
Just to steer away from lil' Tommy's penchant for Putin...when Hoover spoke that was the end of it. There was no greater authority. Hoover WAS the FBI. Don't let comrade Jerkov Graves tell you otherwise. When Hoover insisted that the investigation was going to show that Oswald was the lone assassin, that was the end of it.
Loser Nutters like Corbett, "Smith" and Payette would have you believe Hoover was ineffectual when in reality he was like a demi-god.
Hoover dictated the result of the investigation before it had really begun.
This is not a joke or an exaggeration.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

To learn just how messed up the FBI was even way before Bugeyed Patel took over, read Mark Riebling's 1994 book, Wedge: The Secret War between the FBI and CIA.

You used to be able to read it for free by googling "wedge" "riebling" and "archive" simultaneously.

Maybe you still can.

-- Tom

PS Yep.

https://archive.org/stream/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity/Wedge+-+From+Pearl+Harbor+to+9:11+-+How+the+Secret+War+between+the+FBI+and+CIA+Has+Endangered+National+Security_djvu.txt
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on August 06, 2026, 09:56:23 PM »
Just to steer away from lil' Tommy's penchant for Putin...when Hoover spoke that was the end of it. There was no greater authority. Hoover WAS the FBI. Don't let comrade Jerkov Graves tell you otherwise. When Hoover insisted that the investigation was going to show that Oswald was the lone assassin, that was the end of it.
Loser Nutters like Corbett, "Smith" and Payette would have you believe Hoover was ineffectual when in reality he was like a demi-god.
Hoover dictated the result of the investigation before it had really begun.
This is not a joke or an exaggeration.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on August 06, 2026, 09:52:32 PM »
Man, you love the ruskies.
You have such a hard on for all things soviet.
What happened to you bro?

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

I'm sorry for being so critical of your beloved world-class humanitarian organization known as the KGB (today's SVR and FSB).

-- Tom

PS I was expanding my post when you feverishly posted your little jewel, so here it is, again:

J. Edgar Hoover was duped by many Soviet intelligence agents over the years, including by GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov for one year (1962), by KGB Major Aleksey Kulak for fifteen years (1962 - 1977), by Yuri Nosenko from February 1964, on, by CIA officers Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) and Leonard V. McCoy (look him up) for who-knows-how-long, by, IMHO, "FBI agents" SOLO (Morris and Jack Childs), probably by that former Nazi, former POW, former Communist German National crop-duster from Snyder, Oklahoma, Guenter Heinz Schulz (TUMBLEWEED / AEBURBLE; look him up) who was instrumental in convincing the CIA and the FBI that Oswald had met with the KGB's alleged Western Hemisphere chief of assassinations and sabotage, Valery Kostikov, in Mexico City in September 1963, and . . . gasp . . . maybe even by James McCord of Watergate notoriety.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on August 06, 2026, 09:47:20 PM »
J. Edgar Hoover was duped by many Soviet intelligence agents over the years, including by GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov for one year (1962), by KGB Major Aleksey Kulak for fifteen years (1962 - 1977), by Yuri Nosenko from February 1964, on, by CIA officers Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) and Leonard V. McCoy (look him up) for who-knows-how-long, by, IMHO, "FBI agents" SOLO (Morris and Jack Childs), and probably by that former Nazi, former POW, former Communist German National crop-duster from Snyder, Oklahoma, Guenter Heinz Schulz (TUMBLEWEED; look him up) who was instrumental in convincing the CIA and the FBI that Oswald had met with the KGB's alleged Western Hemisphere chief of assassinations and sabotage, Valery Kostikov, in Mexico City in September 1963.

Man, you love the ruskies.
You have such a hard on for all things soviet.
What happened to you bro?
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    I agree that much of what you are presenting is IS POSSIBLE. My issue is the Timelines that have been assigned to this short period of time. This includes the Wiegman Film timeline which you use above to support your theory. I do Not believe the timelines that have been assigned to Wiegman, Darnell, and Couch Films are accurate.
   Remember, 2 years ago when the Sixth Floor released the opening :20 seconds of their 1st generation Darnell Film copy, the first few frames of that newly released footage showed ALL 3 Camera Cars at a Dead Stop. It is AFTER seeing these camera cars at a dead Stop, and we see the driver of camera car #2 standing on the ground outside of the car,  that we then see Officer Baker running up the Elm St sidewalk and across the Island toward the TSBD. That camera car driver did not jump out of that camera car and then stand there only 10 seconds after the kill shot. Nobody jumps out of their car when only sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic for 10 seconds. We ALL routinely sit inside our car at a traffic light for a much longer time period than that.
   And the Wiegman Film? Remember, for 30+ YEARS the Wiegman film was ballyhoo'd as being filmed "continuously". Took decades, but this Bogus Wiegman Film timeline was finally proven to be incorrect.
  The assassigned timelines of the people we see in the Wiegman, Darnell, and Couch Films are Wrong.

Thank you for expressing your reservations so succinctly.
You agree the Weiugman film shows the Presidential limo about to enter the underpass, do you not?
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Let's say Gloria was in a position to see JFK's head explode and that made her run as fast as she could back towards the TSBD building.
It has been demonstrated time and time again that she could have covered that distance in 15 seconds.
If there is something about the calculations that is confusing you please let me know.
Look at the Weigman film - less than 10 seconds after the shooting and the area that included Gloria and her friends is totally clear.
Look at the 'woman in white' on the steps in Darnell and Couch, linking arms with the woman in the black head scarf and refute that these are the same women we see in the Z-film. This is the evidence that Gloria was the woman on the steps talking with Lovelady in Darnell/Couch.
Rather than your 'instinct' provide something stronger.

    I agree that much of what you are presenting is IS POSSIBLE. My issue is the Timelines that have been assigned to this short period of time. This includes the Wiegman Film timeline which you use above to support your theory. I do Not believe the timelines that have been assigned to Wiegman, Darnell, and Couch Films are accurate.
   Remember, 2 years ago when the Sixth Floor released the opening :20 seconds of their 1st generation Darnell Film copy, the first few frames of that newly released footage showed ALL 3 Camera Cars at a Dead Stop. It is AFTER seeing these camera cars at a dead Stop, and we see the driver of camera car #2 standing on the ground outside of the car,  that we then see Officer Baker running up the Elm St sidewalk and across the Island toward the TSBD. That camera car driver did not jump out of that camera car and then stand there only 10 seconds after the kill shot. Nobody jumps out of their car when only sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic for 10 seconds. We ALL routinely sit inside our car at a traffic light for a much longer time period than that.
   And the Wiegman Film? Remember, for 30+ YEARS the Wiegman film was ballyhoo'd as being filmed "continuously". Took decades, but this Bogus Wiegman Film timeline was finally proven to be incorrect.
  The assassigned timelines of the people we see in the Wiegman, Darnell, and Couch Films are Wrong.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on August 06, 2026, 09:30:29 PM »
Your attempt to make J. Edgar Hoover look like some kind of inept figurehead shows your utter ignorance regarding, not just this case, but American history in general.

J. Edgar Hoover was duped by many Soviet intelligence agents over the years, including by GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov for one year (1962), by KGB Major Aleksey Kulak for fifteen years (1962 - 1977), by Yuri Nosenko from February 1964, on, by CIA officers Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) and Leonard V. McCoy (look him up) for who-knows-how-long, by, IMHO, "FBI agents" SOLO (Morris and Jack Childs), probably by that former Nazi, former POW, former Communist German National crop-duster from Snyder, Oklahoma, Guenter Heinz Schulz (TUMBLEWEED / AEBURBLE; look him up) who was instrumental in convincing the CIA and the FBI that Oswald had met with the KGB's alleged Western Hemisphere chief of assassinations and sabotage, Valery Kostikov, in Mexico City in September 1963, and . . . gasp . . . maybe even by James McCord of Watergate notoriety.
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