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     The images being clearer/sharper on the Darnell Film currently held by the Sixth Floor Museum proves nothing.

The time that Jones made the copy was at a time when the only copies were film to film...Jones was a film professor...He would only make a film to film copy because he was aware that would create the best copy...Video transfer was primitive back then and you would see a video copy right away...In other words, it had to be film to film and the 6th Floor Museum might have the Jones copy in their possession...

You can't explain what other method Jones would have used in the 1970's to produce the clearer copy he had in his collection...

The dress neckline is a real and accurate image of Prayer Man's clothing...Unless, of course, you believe Larsen's Cinque-like CIA forgery claim...The Education Forum pretends to have very high standards, however they don't seem to mind Larsen's obvious excuse-making lie...

We have yet to see Chris Davidson's digital enhancement process applied to the original Hughes Film to bring out Stanton up behind Lovelady in the Prayer Man spot...This is prevented with the disingenuous strawman of calling for the original Prayer Man films...

Gary Mack was doing camera work for a local Dallas TV station in the early 1990's when Jones was still alive...Mack's professional expertise was film when he would have gotten knowledge of Jones' copy...Mack had to have a reason for saying it was film to film...

In The Education Forum's re-organization Moderator Mark Knight is in the process of figuring out how all the moderators who banned the guy with correct evidence on Prayer Man are going to deal with the re-organization of the site...And no, it isn't a clique of friends that is being left to judge its own wrongdoing...It is a serious group making serious decisions...
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Below are some additional problems with the autopsy photos and skull x-rays. I didn't list them in the OP because I didn't want the OP to turn into a book. I feared the OP was already getting a bit long.

-- The lateral skull x-rays show a physically impossible white patch in the lower half of the right-rear part of the skull. The patch's optical-density (OD) measurements are almost the same as those of the petrous bone, which is a physical impossibility. According to the OD measurements of the white patch, the skull bone in this location extends nearly to the other side of the skull, which is a physical impossibility.

-- Dr. Michael Chesser examined and took OD measurements of a pre-mortem JFK skull x-ray at the Kennedy Library in Boston in order to provide a  control for the OD readings of the white patch. He saw nothing resembling the white patch on the pre-mortem skull x-ray, and his OD measurements of the pre-mortem x-ray showed far less density than the OD measurements of the white patch on the lateral autopsy skull x-rays.

-- Another fact that proves the autopsy skull x-rays have been altered is the fact that the white patch on the lateral skull x-rays is nowhere to be seen on the AP skull x-ray. If the white patch had been on the original lateral x-rays, it would be on the AP x-ray as well--indeed, it would very obvious and easy to see on the AP x-ray. But, there is no trace of it on the extant AP x-ray. This is a physical impossibility, as Dr. David Mantik has explained:

It should also be emphasized that, although this white patch is obvious on both lateral skull X-rays, it is nowhere to be seen on the AP (frontal) skull X-ray. In the physical universe that we know, this is impossible. (JFK Assassination Paradoxes, 2022, p. 9)

-- Additional clear physical proof that the autopsy skull x-rays are not the originals is the fact that on the lateral x-ray of the neck area there is a T-shaped symbol etched onto the x-ray, but there is no emulsion missing from the x-ray at this spot on either side of the film, proving this x-ray is a copy and not an original.

Custer, the autopsy x-ray technician, said he made various marks on the x-rays for identification purposes. When you etch a symbol or letter into x-ray film, naturally there will be emulsion missing from the film at that location on that side of the film. However, there is no emulsion missing from either side of the film of this lateral x-ray, which is hard physical proof that the x-ray is a copy and not an original.

Dr. Mantik made this historic discovery during his final viewing of the autopsy materials at the National Archives. Dr. Michael Chesser confirmed the fact that no emulsion is missing from either side of the x-ray film when he examined the autopsy materials at the National Archives. Dr. Mantik:

The T-shaped inscription must have been etched into the emulsion on the original (never-released) lateral X-ray film. Such etching is easy to do, e.g., by using a fingernail, metal file, or nail. The missing emulsion would have been easy to detect, especially while viewing the surface at an angle to a light source. Inspection of the other side would clearly have shown no missing emulsion (because the etching was only done on one side of the double emulsion film). Realizing this, during my final visit to the Archives (April 12, 2001), I scrutinized these emulsions very carefully.

I first asked Steve Tilley, the JFK archivist, to remove the X-ray film from its transparent plastic sheath so that I could view the surfaces directly. He did so. And then, after viewing at multiple angles, I recognized that no emulsion was missing from either side of the film! The implication was inescapable: this could only be a copy film—not an original. That is because the copy film would preserve the image of the T-shaped inscription, but it would also retain its own emulsion (on both sides) -- since no one had scraped emulsion off either side of this copy film. . . .

Once I recognized that this lateral X-ray film was a forgery, I had a shocking insight. None of the three extant JFK skull X-ray films is an original—all three must be copies. In this case, it means that all three are altered images. Most likely, all of the original skull X-ray films (of five to six total) had to be destroyed because they contained forensic proof that Oswald was not the sole assassin.

In Chesser’s review (at the 2015 JFK Lancer Conference), he confirmed my observations of the T-shaped inscription:

"Dr. Mantik described emulsion over the T-shaped wax mark, which was attributed to Ed Reed marking the film. I agree with him that the surface of the film appeared smooth, when viewed at eye level."

Like me, Dr. Chesser saw that emulsion was fully present on both sides of this lateral X-ray film, thus leaving no doubt that the film is a duplicate. (The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis,, 2024, pp. 201-203)


-- In September 1977, shortly before the HSCA publicly displayed the JFK autopsy x-rays for the first time, Dr. Russell Morgan, the radiologist on the Clark Panel, said he was no longer so certain that the bullet that hit JFK’s head was an FMJ bullet, and suggested that the high fragment trail might be more consistent with a frangible bullet than with an FMJ bullet because the fragmentation of the bullet was so severe. (The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis,, p. 206)

Remember that it was Dr. Morgan who told Howard Donahue that the Clark Panel believed the 6.5 mm object in the rear outer table of the skull was a ricochet fragment.

-- Dr. Chesser and Dr. Mantik, among others, have noted that the high fragment trail expands from front to back, not back to front, which indicates the bullet struck the front of the head, since fragment trails naturally tend to expand in skulls after penetration.

Dr. Chesser and Dr. Mantik have also noted that the larger fragments of the high fragment trail are at the end of the trail's expansion, and that the science of ballistics tells us that in a group of bullet fragments the larger fragments will travel farther from the entry point. Dr. Chesser explains this in conjunction with his identification of a right-front entry wound on the skull x-rays:

The most important finding here is the proximity of these tiny metallic fragments to this bone defect. This location, on the intracranial side of the bony defect, is highly suggestive of an entry wound. One of the principles of skull ballistics is that the largest fragments travel the furthest from the entry site, with the smallest fragments traveling the least distance, and that is exactly what is seen on this right lateral skull x-ray. (“The Application of Forensic Principles for the Analysis of the Autopsy Skull X-Rays of President Kennedy and a Review of Brain Photographs,” November 27, 2017, https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-application-of-forensic-principles-for-the-analysis-of-the-autopsy-skull-x-rays-of-president-kennedy-and-a-review-of-the-brain-photographs)

Dr. Mantik adds,

When you look at the x-rays that are stored at the archives now, on the lateral x-ray there is a fragment trail. It actually expands from front to back. . . .

Now why is that important? Well, what we know is that the larger bullet fragments travel farther, whereas the smaller ones tend to stay near the entry site. That’s what we see on these X-rays. In other words, we can reasonably interpret these as being consistent with a frontal bullet, but being radically inconsistent with a posterior bullet. (The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis,, p. 193)


Nobody cares what an amateur like you thinks about the autopsy evidence, especially given that you've seen so little of it.
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Professor Jones probably made his copy in the 1970's when it was easier to simply approach NBC and order a copy...At the time Jones made his copy the technology was film to film copying...We know Jones made his copy film to film because the 6th Floor Museum copy is probably a celluloid copy...But most importantly we know Jones made his copy film to film because that was the only way the features could get sharper in the actual images...In short, what we see from the 6th Floor Museum copy with its better detail is proof in itself that the copy is film to film...One thing we know for certain is that the Prayer Man people will never look in to any of this because they are dishonest and they avoid pursuing anything they know will disprove them...


 
Mack was there and he probably talked to Jones about his copy...Or saw it in person...Again, the Prayer Man people will do no inquiry or seeking on this because they are trying to avoid admitting that the Jones collection copy is 1st generation and therefore possesses technical reasons why the dress neckline is real and therefore refutes the bogus Greg Parker Prayer Man theory...They could approach Jones' son but won't...

There's a slew of "probably" sprinkled throughout your attempting to provide the bona fides of the Darnell Film "copy" currently held by the Sixth Floor Museum. And the Gary Mack inclusion in this "probably" tale only damages the provenance of this alleged Darnell Film "copy". You say that Prof Jones made this Darnell film copy in the 70's and that, "....Mack was there and he PROBABLY talked to Jones about his copy...". Mack was Not the curator of the Sixth Floor Museum in the 70's or even the 80's. Mack was still busy pushing "Badge Man" on "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (1988).
The images being clearer/sharper on the Darnell Film currently held by the Sixth Floor Museum proves nothing.
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It's a good thing for Andrew Mason that you're around or otherwise he would have the dumbest theory about when JBC was shot. He should pray for you everyday.
I am just saying what the evidence says. Is JBC saying he was hit on the second shot a ”theory” or is that simply evidence? Is JBC turning right in response to the first shot a theory, or is it just evidence?
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Below are some additional problems with the autopsy photos and skull x-rays. I didn't list them in the OP because I didn't want the OP to turn into a book. I feared the OP was already getting a bit long.

-- The lateral skull x-rays show a physically impossible white patch in the lower half of the right-rear part of the skull. The patch's optical-density (OD) measurements are almost the same as those of the petrous bone, which is a physical impossibility. According to the OD measurements of the white patch, the skull bone in this location extends nearly to the other side of the skull, which is a physical impossibility.

-- Dr. Michael Chesser examined and took OD measurements of a pre-mortem JFK skull x-ray at the Kennedy Library in Boston in order to provide a  control for the OD readings of the white patch. He saw nothing resembling the white patch on the pre-mortem skull x-ray, and his OD measurements of the pre-mortem x-ray showed far less density than the OD measurements of the white patch on the lateral autopsy skull x-rays.

-- Another fact that proves the autopsy skull x-rays have been altered is the fact that the white patch on the lateral skull x-rays is nowhere to be seen on the AP skull x-ray. If the white patch had been on the original lateral x-rays, it would be on the AP x-ray as well--indeed, it would very obvious and easy to see on the AP x-ray. But, there is no trace of it on the extant AP x-ray. This is a physical impossibility, as Dr. David Mantik has explained:

It should also be emphasized that, although this white patch is obvious on both lateral skull X-rays, it is nowhere to be seen on the AP (frontal) skull X-ray. In the physical universe that we know, this is impossible. (JFK Assassination Paradoxes, 2022, p. 9)

-- Additional clear physical proof that the autopsy skull x-rays are not the originals is the fact that on the lateral x-ray of the neck area there is a T-shaped symbol etched onto the x-ray, but there is no emulsion missing from the x-ray at this spot on either side of the film, proving this x-ray is a copy and not an original.

Custer, the autopsy x-ray technician, said he made various marks on the x-rays for identification purposes. When you etch a symbol or letter into x-ray film, naturally there will be emulsion missing from the film at that location on that side of the film. However, there is no emulsion missing from either side of the film of this lateral x-ray, which is hard physical proof that the x-ray is a copy and not an original.

Dr. Mantik made this historic discovery during his final viewing of the autopsy materials at the National Archives. Dr. Michael Chesser confirmed the fact that no emulsion is missing from either side of the x-ray film when he examined the autopsy materials at the National Archives. Dr. Mantik:

The T-shaped inscription must have been etched into the emulsion on the original (never-released) lateral X-ray film. Such etching is easy to do, e.g., by using a fingernail, metal file, or nail. The missing emulsion would have been easy to detect, especially while viewing the surface at an angle to a light source. Inspection of the other side would clearly have shown no missing emulsion (because the etching was only done on one side of the double emulsion film). Realizing this, during my final visit to the Archives (April 12, 2001), I scrutinized these emulsions very carefully.

I first asked Steve Tilley, the JFK archivist, to remove the X-ray film from its transparent plastic sheath so that I could view the surfaces directly. He did so. And then, after viewing at multiple angles, I recognized that no emulsion was missing from either side of the film! The implication was inescapable: this could only be a copy film—not an original. That is because the copy film would preserve the image of the T-shaped inscription, but it would also retain its own emulsion (on both sides) -- since no one had scraped emulsion off either side of this copy film. . . .

Once I recognized that this lateral X-ray film was a forgery, I had a shocking insight. None of the three extant JFK skull X-ray films is an original—all three must be copies. In this case, it means that all three are altered images. Most likely, all of the original skull X-ray films (of five to six total) had to be destroyed because they contained forensic proof that Oswald was not the sole assassin.

In Chesser’s review (at the 2015 JFK Lancer Conference), he confirmed my observations of the T-shaped inscription:

"Dr. Mantik described emulsion over the T-shaped wax mark, which was attributed to Ed Reed marking the film. I agree with him that the surface of the film appeared smooth, when viewed at eye level."

Like me, Dr. Chesser saw that emulsion was fully present on both sides of this lateral X-ray film, thus leaving no doubt that the film is a duplicate. (The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis,, 2024, pp. 201-203)


-- In September 1977, shortly before the HSCA publicly displayed the JFK autopsy x-rays for the first time, Dr. Russell Morgan, the radiologist on the Clark Panel, said he was no longer so certain that the bullet that hit JFK’s head was an FMJ bullet, and suggested that the high fragment trail might be more consistent with a frangible bullet than with an FMJ bullet because the fragmentation of the bullet was so severe. (The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis,, p. 206)

Remember that it was Dr. Morgan who told Howard Donahue that the Clark Panel believed the 6.5 mm object in the rear outer table of the skull was a ricochet fragment.

-- Dr. Chesser and Dr. Mantik, among others, have noted that the high fragment trail expands from front to back, not back to front, which indicates the bullet struck the front of the head, since fragment trails naturally tend to expand in skulls after penetration.

Dr. Chesser and Dr. Mantik have also noted that the larger fragments of the high fragment trail are at the end of the trail's expansion, and that the science of ballistics tells us that in a group of bullet fragments the larger fragments will travel farther from the entry point. Dr. Chesser explains this in conjunction with his identification of a right-front entry wound on the skull x-rays:

The most important finding here is the proximity of these tiny metallic fragments to this bone defect. This location, on the intracranial side of the bony defect, is highly suggestive of an entry wound. One of the principles of skull ballistics is that the largest fragments travel the furthest from the entry site, with the smallest fragments traveling the least distance, and that is exactly what is seen on this right lateral skull x-ray. (“The Application of Forensic Principles for the Analysis of the Autopsy Skull X-Rays of President Kennedy and a Review of Brain Photographs,” November 27, 2017, https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-application-of-forensic-principles-for-the-analysis-of-the-autopsy-skull-x-rays-of-president-kennedy-and-a-review-of-the-brain-photographs)

Dr. Mantik adds,

When you look at the x-rays that are stored at the archives now, on the lateral x-ray there is a fragment trail. It actually expands from front to back. . . .

Now why is that important? Well, what we know is that the larger bullet fragments travel farther, whereas the smaller ones tend to stay near the entry site. That’s what we see on these X-rays. In other words, we can reasonably interpret these as being consistent with a frontal bullet, but being radically inconsistent with a posterior bullet. (The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis,, p. 193)





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AM--

I am the first to concede that identifying the exact frame JBC is shot...well, I am guessing.

JBC's mouth gapes open after Z-295, maybe toward Z-300 or later, as if he is in pain.

Humans take more than one-tenth of a second to register pain, generally, or so I have read.

Mrs. Connally's face is somewhat obscured, and, of course, this is a blurry home movie we are watching.

She seems to turn towards JBC after Z-300.

Maybe Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman and SS agent Kellerman were correct: The second two audible shots were in close sequence. They were both familiar with firearms, and seemed to lack any axes to grind.

Just IMHO.

 

It's a good thing for Andrew Mason that you're around or otherwise he would have the dumbest theory about when JBC was shot. He should pray for you everyday.
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When COVID-19 emerged, I suspected its origin was a lab leak in Wuhan, China. I had a lot of reason, but that's another story.

At one point the Columbia Journalism Review, the industry flag-carrier, called the lab leak narrative a "debunked conspiracy theory." The CT'ers were small and ridiculed band.

Later, the lab leak theory became somewhat accepted as the more-likely explanation of the COVID-19 virus.

Lesson: Some CT's hold water, and some do not.

I suspect Charlie Kirk was murdered by a mentally ill lone nut.

No one disputes that conspiracies do happen. The LN position has always been there is no credible evidence that JFK died as the result of a conspiracy and that all the credible evidence points to Oswald as the lone assassin. So far, the same applies to Tyler Robinson, but that hasn't stopped some from already speculating that he is being framed by the real perpetrators of the murder of Charlie Kirk.

I have no reason to doubt that Tyler Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk. At his trial, he is entitled to a presumption of innocence but since I'm not going to be on his jury, I am not obligated to presume he is innocent any more than I was obligated to give OJ or Oswald a presumption of innocence. Both of them were double murderers and there is zero doubt in my mind about either.
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I will attempt to answer this seriously, without descending into the pathetically juvenile silliness that all too often characterizes my self-amusing contributions.  :D :D :D

I recalled this same discussion from the Ed Forum in 2018. Fred Litwin had listed the usual LN staples, and I added:

To [Fred's] list, I would add:

OSWALD'S GAME - Jean Davison
MARINA AND LEE - Priscilla Johnson McMillan
OSWALD'S TALE - Norman Mailer
OSWALD: RUSSIAN EPISODE - Ernst Titovets
LEGEND - Edward Jay Epstein

Yes, yes, I know, the first three at least are staples of the Lone Nut community.  (Epstein's work, of course, is approximately 180 degrees removed from the currently prevailing Deep Politics theories, which is why he is dismissed as either a CIA dupe or disinformation agent.)  I believe it is CRITICAL, before bogging down in minutiae and theories, to gain as much of an understanding as possible of WHO LEE HARVEY OSWALD REALLY WAS.  I would've saved myself a lot of time and money if I had taken that approach.


I still strongly agree with this. The biggest mistake anyone can make, in my opinion, is to dive into the conspiracy literature. You'll end up cross-eyed and confused, quite possibly beyond all redemption. I started with Best Evidence and High Treason, for God's sake. How I escaped, I'm still not entirely sure.

I would also strongly suggest that a newcomer spend some time in the psychological and sociological literature regarding the conspiracy-prone mindset. You might even recognize yourself, as I did! At a minimum, you will have a much better perspective when you dive into the conspiracy literature.

Lance, I expect you will agree research as detailed and well supported as the following just doesn't grow on trees.

Marina and Lee - Priscilla Johnson McMillan

David Lifton found Priscilla and Marina trustworthy interacting with them personally, and reacted to my research results by shooting me, the messenger.

Jackie's sister's father-in-law, Cass Canfield, authorized the advances for books to be written both by William Manchester and Priscilla Johnson.

He appears to be behind the introduction of George McMillan and Priscilla, through Cass's and George's mutual connection with the winter season,
Aiken, SC polo conmunity.
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https://www.nytimes.com/1967/08/20/archives/cass-canfield-70-plans-a-busy-career-as-editor-past-and-future.html
Cass Canfield, 70, Plans a Busy Career as Editor; Past and Future
August 20, 1967
...The projects range from a book on India by the young novelist Ved Mehta, an anthology of true spy stories by Allen W. Dulles, former head of the Central Intelligence Agency, and a new modern history by several Columbia University professors, to personal interviews with a score of writers ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_a_President

https://ia801800.us.archive.org/31/items/MarinaAndLee/Marina%20and%20Lee%20by%20Priscilla%20Johnson%20McMillan.pdf
MarinaAndLee
[PDF]“McMillan achieves with art what the Warren Commission failed to
Marina Oswald and Priscilla Johnson McMillan hit it off immediately. McMillan then signed a contract with Harper & Row for a book about Lee Oswald for which she received an advance of $60,000.

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/03/28/obituaries/cass-canfield-a-titan-of-publishing-is-dead-at-88.html
March 26, 1986
....Mr. Canfield, who joined the company in 1924, was president from 1931 to 1945, chairman of the board from 1945 to 1955, and chairman of the executive committee from 1955 to 1967, when he became Harper & Row's house senior editor, a post he retained until his death. He served as a director of the company until 1967, and became an honorary director in 1969.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Temple_Canfield
Michael Temple Canfield was an American diplomatic aide and later London editorial representative for Harper & Row. Adopted by publisher Cass Canfield and Katherine Temple Emmet, he served at the U.S. Embassy in London under Ambassadors Winthrop W. Aldrich and John Hay Whitney during the Eisenhower administration. Twice married—to Lee Bouvier, sister of Jacqueline Kennedy, and later Frances Laura Charteris—he died of a heart attack in 1969 at age 43.

Born: Aug 20, 1926 (Bern)
Died: Dec 20, 1969 (Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/royal-family-us-diplomat-illegitimate-28755039
....Prince George, Duke of Kent is said to have been the father of the diplomat(
....
And, according to the memoirs of Loelia, Duchess of Westminster, King Edward VIII believed his brother Prince George had an illegitimate son with Kiki Preston, a "glamorous but drug-addicted American socialite who was a member of the Happy Valley set."

Kiki was known by her nickname 'the girl with the silver syringe' owing to her heroine addiction....
......
It is believed that the couple's illegitimate child was Michael Temple Canfield, an American diplomatic aide during the Eisenhower administration.

Canfield was born in Switzerland in 1926 and was adopted by Katherine Temple and her then-husband publishing executive, Cass Canfield.

The sister of James A Thomas, the NY Times described James, who reported Stuart missing, as the last person to see Stuart Johnson, Priscilla's father, alive in 1969, is described below as a Dulles cousin. She served as maid of honor in the wedding of Allen Dulles's daughter, Clover. Priscila answered a question during her HSCA testimony about
the 14 year interlude between receipt of a $60,000 advance from publisher, Harper, and publication of Marina and Lee in 1977.
Priscilla responded by saying she was so affected by her father's sudden death, which she described as a "hidden suicide", that it was
the principal reason for the long delay in finishing the book. She also credited editor Wyeth for his long patience in not pressuring her to complete the book.


https://paw.princeton.edu/memorial/marion-s-wyeth-jr-48
Marion S. Wyeth Jr. ’48 | Princeton Alumni Weekly
Feb 8, 2012 · Buz Wyeth legendary editor at HarperCollins Publishers, who edited Old Yeller, With Malice Toward None, Paper Lion, Out of My League, and The Boys of Summer, among many other titles, died …

Wyeth's architect father happened to reside two residences away from the Philip Sharples (located at end of Woodbridge, on left in photo), DeMohrenschildt in-laws, on a dead end street in West Palm Beach, FL.

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https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/2544-edwin-walker/page/20/#comment-271075

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...the lot just below the "W" in Woodbridge Rd., was the residence from 1940 to 1983 of the architect father

of Priscilla Johnson's second Harper editor, the very patient and understanding Marion S. Wyeth, Jr. Two doors down

from Wyeth, Sr. at the end of very end of Woodbridge Rd. on the left, was the longtime residence of DIdi Sharples' parents,

the Philip Sharples. " Mrs. Philip Sharples, 185 Woodbridge Rd. Georgian brick house. Beautifully landscaped to lake, charming
rock and water garden beside entrance court "
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https://archive.is/esTuB#selection-843.0-885.79
1.) Eleanor Lansing Thomas was the sister-in-law of Hugh Aynseworth's editor at Newsweek, Osborn Elliott.
2.) This is an excerpt from the New York Times reporting about the death of Prisicilla's father Stuart Johnson, excerpted from the full article
displayed below.:

....Fell Leaving House
A widower who lived alone, he had dined last night at the home of Mr. and Mrs. James A. Thomas at
7 Wood Lane in neighboring Locust Valley.

As he stepped out of the house to get into his car, according to his hosts, he fell to the walk.
They said they helped him to his feet, and, although he appeared dazed, he insisted on driving home...

3.) James A. Thomas was the brother of Eleanor Lansing Thomas who was the sister-in-law of Osborn Elliott.
4.) In the Clover Dulles wedding article displayed below, it is stated that Clover Dulles's (daughter of former CIA director, Allen W. Dulles)
maid of honor was Clover's cousin, Eleanor Lansing Thomas. Eleanor's brother, James A. Thomas, must also have been
a cousin of Clover Dulles and her father Allen.
5.) Priscilla Johnson Mcmillan informed the HSCA in transcribed statements classified and withheld by the CIA for the fifteen years
following her 1978 testimony, that she believed that the circumstances of her father Stuart's death were covered up. James A. Thomas,
a cousin of Allen W. Dulles and the brother of Osborn Elliott's sister-in-law, was reported to be the person most involved in the cover up
described by Priscilla Johnson McMillan in statements she had made to the HSCA.

https://www.google.com/search?q=eleanor+thomas+best+man+brother+osborn&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&source=newspapers#hl=en&tbo=d&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22ELEANOR+THOMAS+IS+WED+IN+LONDON%3B+Former+Vogue+Editor%22+brother+osborn&oq=%22ELEANOR+THOMAS+IS+WED+IN+LONDON%3B+Former+Vogue+Editor%22+brother+osborn&gs_l=serp.12...18900.26294.5.28587.18.17.0.0.0.0.100.865.16j1.17.0...0.0...1c.1.2.serp.G0mG9KLWxnA&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41867550,d.eWU&fp=bd7b309bfcec9f34&biw=1440&bih=723
ELEANOR THOMAS IS WED IN LONDON; Former Vogue Editor ...
New York Times - Jul 28, 1956
Isabel ratto.wa.9 the bride s only : attendant. Osborn i Elliott eras the man for his Brother: r . . .' `he. is--a graduate of the Chapin Schbol--and Bernard Collees.

Saying goodbye to ad legend Jock Elliott | News - Advertising Age
http://adage.com/article/news/goodbye-ad-legend-jock-elliott/105186/
      Nov 7, 2005 – David Ogilvy once remarked that the man who would replace him at the ... His survivors include his wife, Eleanor Thomas Elliott, his brother Osborn and numerous nieces .....
.......
https://archive.is/esTuB#selection-843.0-885.79




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http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Essay_-_Kennedys_Ghost#fn_2
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[2] Declassified documents show that Dallas reporter Hugh Aynesworth was in contact with the Dallas CIA office and had on at least one occasion "offered his services to us." The files are chock full of Aynesworth informing to the FBI, particularly in regard to the Garrison investigation. See for example an account of lengthy FBI meeting with Aynesworth on 26 Apr 1967 re: Garrison and 5 May 1967 Domestic Intelligence Division note. See also a CIA 27 Dec 1967 account of a phone call in which Aynesworth is said to have offered to secure documents "extracted" from Garrison's files (by William Gurvich). Also of note is a message Aynesworth sent to George Christian at LBJ's White House, in which Aynesworth wrote that "My interest in informing government officials of each step along the way is because of my intimate knowledge of what Jim Garrison is planning." See Jim DiEugenio's Hugh Aynesworth: Refusing a Conspiracy is his Life's Work. :
http://www.ctka.net/aynesworth.html

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https://archive.is/esTuB#selection-771.0-777.1520

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Essay_-_Kennedys_Ghost#fn_2
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[1] Soviet expert and former journalist Priscilla Johnson McMillan has admitted she applied to work for the CIA in 1952, though she later withdrew her application and was never hired. In her HSCA testimony, declassified in 1993 (see part 1 and part 2), she said that she had only two witting contacts with CIA officers, the latest in 1962. However, either her witting contacts were more extensive than admitted, or she was unwitting of the CIA status of some of those with whom she dealt (or perhaps "don't ask, don't tell" was the modus operandi). An 11 Dec 1962 CIA report of a meeting with Priscilla Johnson stated that she "had been an OO source" (OO: Office of Operations) and had been "selected as a likely candidate to write an article on Yevtushenko in a major U.S. magazine for our campaign." Another CIA document states that she was approved for debriefing under Project [**]DINOSAUR on 3 May 1963. Another contact report from among the many CIA files relating to Ms. Johnson dates from early 1964. See Peter Whitmey's Priscilla Johnson McMillan and the CIA for more information, though that was written in 1994 before many of the documents were available. Ms. Johnson was also involved with Marina Oswald in the unlikely finding of a bus ticket, months after Marina's possessions had been searched by the Dallas Police and the FBI, finally providing "proof" that Oswald had indeed traveled to Mexico City. Commissioner Russell found the story of the bus ticket discovery difficult to believe - see 5WH601-603.

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Please compare Priscilla Johnson Mcmillan's suspicions about her father Stuart Johnson's sudden death in 1969, as she stated them in her 1978 HSCA testimony, classified by the CIA for the subsequent fifteen years, with what we now know.:

http://www.realhistoryarchives.com/collections/assassinations/jfk/pmcmil1.htm
HSCA Testimony
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[At this point 9 pages in a row are missing, with a sheet saying "Access Restricted" - Authority CIA (said HSCA but that was crossed out and "CIA" substituted.) Info withheld becuase of not Security-Classified Information, but "Otherwise Restricted Information" is checked (those were the only two options.) Her testimony has over 40 still classified
pages. But it's clear she met with the CIA.]
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[This woman recalls next to nothing in this whole 100+ page interview.   She says "I do not recall" more times than Oliver North!! Funny how she can recall everything Marina told her though - right? She was also one of the few to testify before the HSCA with her lawyer at her side, interfering now and then throughout.

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Remembering the legendary editor of NEWSWEEK
Osborn Elliott, a giant of American journalism and a tireless crusader for revitalizing America's cities, died on Sunday in New York City. He was 83.

....Elliott was hired by NEWSWEEK as business editor in 1955 and within four years became managing editor, the third-ranking job. When the newsweekly was put up for sale in 1960, Elliott and Ben Bradlee, then in NEWSWEEK's Washington bureau, conspired to persuade Philip Graham, president of the Washington Post Co., to make an offer for the magazine. Graham outbid the competition and installed Elliott as NEWSWEEK's editor. He was 36. (Bradlee would eventually become the Post's top editor.)....
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Can we finally lay JFK to rest?
Author: JOHN ANDERS  THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS (DAL)
Publish Date: DECEMBER 5, 1991

On the eve of Oliver Stone's eagerly awaited new film, JFK, is there still time to reintroduce one
radical assassination theory: That Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, shot and killed John F. Kennedy on
Nov. 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas? Could it be that simple?

At the risk of sounding naive, but in the absence of proof to the contrary, I choose to believe the
United States government. For some of us, even at the risk of having our knee-jerk liberal credentials
challenged, the most bizarre theory of all is that the Warren Commission lied to, or willingly withheld
the truth from, the American public. A recent poll showed that 83 percent of Americans reject the
Warren Commission's finding. Most of my friends, even the most learned and intelligent ones, seem to
believe in one conspiracy theory or another. If JFK stimulates debate and ventilates the controversy in
a healthy manner, then democracy is served. If the movie succeeds on purely filmic terms, then art has
triumphed. The makers of JFK do not purport to have the answers. They are producing a popular
entertainment, not a historical document. Make- believability And while it would be unfair to condemn
JFK or any film without having seen it, I have a feeling that the best way to watch this entertainment
is by repeating, "It's only a movie . . . it's only a movie . . . '

The foundation for the film, after all, is the largely discredited conspiracy theory
espoused by former New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison. Local author Hugh Aynesworth is a former
Dallas Morning News reporter who was at the site when the assassination occurred and in the Texas
Theatre when Oswald was captured. As a reporter for Newsweek several years later, he was the first to
poke holes in Mr. Garrison's theories that Kennedy was assassinated in a plot headed by New Orleans
businessman Clay Shaw. In May 1967, Mr. Aynesworth wrote a Newsweek column blasting what he called the
district attorney's distortion of facts and - bribing of witnesses. "In January of 1967, before his
probe became big-time, Garrison called me at Newsweek and told me he had solved the case,' remembers
Mr. Aynesworth, now South ern bureau chief for The Washington Times. "He said he thought we could share
information. At that point I wasn't about to say no. He invited me to his house and what I saw there
was a portrait of a sick man. He's unbalanced, unwieldy . . . even cowardly . I once saw him run back
into his office to escape a reporter. If you look back on the people he bullied during his
investigations, you'll find they were often homosexuals and Cuban refugees -- people who couldn't fight back.'

Witnessing weirdness

Mr. Aynesworth says that over a two-year period he discredited between 60 and 70 witnesses produced by
Mr. Garrison.
"As Garrison would discard them, they would come to me,' he says. "You've never seen such
a bunch of kooks. One of them called himself Julius Caesar. The guy wore a toga and had been convicted
of arson in San Francisco. Another said on the witness stand that he had been made sterile by police X-rays.
He also admitted that he would disguise himself in weird clothing whenever his daughter came to
visit. It was a sideshow.' He adds, "Garrison moved his theory around six or seven times. He was always
producing a new star witness. You've never seen such a group of phonies. Mr. Aynesworth believes anyone
would be foolish to discard the possibility of conspiracy. "But if the Mafia, for instance, wanted to
do it, they wouldn't have relied on a nut like Oswald. And Jack Ruby, who I'd known for years, was a
joke.' As for the Warren Commission, Mr. Aynesworth says, "You'll find some unthorough investigation
and some ineptitude. What you will not find is deceit.' Mr. Aynesworth's newest book (with co-author
Stephen Michaud) is titled Murderers Among Us: Unsolved Homicides, Mysterious Deaths, and Killers at
Large. The Kennedy assassination is not mentioned.

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MISS SPENCER WED TO OSBORlq.ELLIOTT; Chapin School ...
‎New York Times - May 9, 1948
Two "B'RIDESi'0F YESTERDAY, A FIANCEE Two "B'RIDESi'0F YESTERDAY, A FIANCEE Mrs. Osborn Elliott Jay ... John Elliott Jr. was best man! for his brother.

Hugh Aynesworth's boss, Newsweek Editor in Chief, Osborn Elliott had this to say about Aynesworth, just a year after the death of
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The news media--a service and a force - Page 26
http://books.google.com/books?id=GSobAQAAIAAJ
Howard Kingsbury Smith, Osborn Elliott, A. Merriman Smith - 1970
.....Let me cite a few other instances of the reporter's involvement in the events he is covering. Take last
summer in Chicago, for example. There is no question in my mind that certain police officers
deliberately assaulted members of the press who were covering events surrounding the convention— and
certainly there was no such question in the minds of eight Newsweek men who were battered by the police
while wearing clear identification as working reporters and photographers. (This was something,
incidentally, that could not be said for the constabulary's own methods of identifying itself; many of
the police officers removed their badges in the parade to make sure they could not be identified.) So
what should the press' reaction have been? In my view, its duty was to report what happened as
dispassionately as possible and later be willing to testify against whichever offending officers could
be identified. This is what our own men did. Or take the coverage of a more recent event—the trial of
Clay Shaw in New Orleans on charges that he conspired in the assassination of the late President
Kennedy. As it happened, Newsweek's chief reporter on the trial had spent literally thousands of man-
hours investigating the assassination itself and was considered a leading authority on the events that
followed. He had witnessed the assassination from close to the Texas School Book Depository and joined
the chase for Lee Harvey Oswald. He interviewed several of the witnesses at the Tippitt murder scene
and was in the Texas Theatre watching when Oswald was apprehended. He was just a few feet from Jack
Ruby when he shot Oswald, and he later interviewed Oswald's widow several times. It was he who
uncovered Oswald's Russian diary in mid-1964. He covered the entire Ruby trial and was the only
reporter inside at Ruby's funeral. In short, quite an expert— and someone that District Attorney Jim
Garrison was anxious to enlist on his side. But this reporter soon became convinced that Garrison had
no case whatsoever, and he made it his business to publicize this fact. The result was one of the first
critical stories published about Garrison— which was followed by a series of intimidating telephone
calls threatening the reporter's life. In Garrison's mind, this reporter and Newsweek had in effect
become co-defendants, and more than 1,100 prospective jurors were asked if they had read Newsweek's
critical story. We left this man on the story because we believed he was the best qualified to cover
it. And to this day, I am satisfied that he did so fairly and thoroughly. But I would not suggest for a
minute that subjectivity had not been involved— once again, in my view, in the interest of the truth.
Some of you may recall that our final story on Clay's acquittal was given only nine lines in the
magazine. It ran under the headline "Fact and Opinion," and in its entirety it read as follows:
"Acquitted: By a jury in New Orleans, exactly two years to the day after his arrest on charges of
conspiracy to murder John F. Kennedy, retired Louisiana businessman Clay L. Shaw, 55. Convicted: By a
case that collapsed at every seam, District Attorney Jim Garrison, 47, of incompetence and
irresponsibility as a public official." You can't get much more subjective than that or, in my opinion,
much closer to the truth. There are much larger issues, of course, that involve subjectivity in
journalism— indeed the very largest issues of the day— and for a publication such as my own, which has
no editorial page, they can pose a problem. The news magazines ....






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Source: Berkshire Eagle
Friday, March 24, 2000
James Thomas Jr.

BECKET -- James A. Thomas Jr., 76, of Becket died Tuesday afternoon at Laurel Lake Center for Health and Rehabilitation in Lee.

Born in New York City on Dec. 9, 1923, son of James Augustus and Dorothy Quincy Read Thomas, he was a 1941 graduate of Deerfield Academy. He received his bachelor of arts degree in 1945 from Yale University and his law degree from Yale Law School in 1948.

He had resided in Becket since 1984.

He leaves his wife, the former Susan Norton; three sons, James Thomas of New York City, Ranald M. Thomas of Minneapolis, and Skeff Thomas of Pitman, N.J.; four daughters, Cameron Thomas of Lexington, Augusta Thomas of Cambridge, and Eleanor Thomas and Dorothy Thomas, both of New York City; two stepsons, William H. Stewart of Washington, and Douglas Stewart of Louisville, Colo.; a stepdaughter, Penelope Eagan of Sun Valley, Idaho; a sister, Eleanor T. Elliott of New York City, and 15 grandchildren.

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John "Jock" Elliott Jr., former chairman of the leading advertising agency Ogilvy & Mather and an authority on the history of Christmas, has died. He was 84. Elliott died of a cerebral hemorrhage Oct. 29 at a hospital in Mount Kisco, N.Y., said his wife, Eleanor Thomas Elliott....

....In addition to Eleanor, his wife of 49 years, Elliott is survived by his brother Osborn, a former editor of Newsweek magazine.

Eleanor Thomas Elliott, Barnard Figure, Dies at 80 - New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/nyregion/06elliott.html
Dec 6, 2006 – Eleanor Thomas Elliott, an advocate for women's rights who successfully fought Columbia University's attempt to take over Barnard College in .

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Men at the top - Page xi
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Osborn Elliott - 1959 - ....
....Cass Canfield, Jr., has been an understanding, perceptive and imaginative friend and editor throughout, and for his warmth and judgment I am especially grateful. It is customary, in an introduction of this sort, for the author to end by thanking.....

An excerpt from a long post I wrote in May, 2012. :
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I found only three threads in this forum (links displayed below) in which the name Cass Canfield is displayed. I think Canfield, the OSS, and the CIA and those who cooperated with them or were "run" by them, have wanted Canfield to be so obscure. If you look at the patterns below, you can see the links between Canfield and so many objects of our research. It seems obvious Canfield sponsored and united Priscilla Johnson and a "writer from Aiken, SC," George E. McMillan. The only question to be cleared up is who Canfield reported to.

Consider how the involved explanation of how Stalin's daughter ended up with Canfield - Evans - Johnson McMillan, reads like a cover story similar to the ones explaining away the coincidences of Priscilla Johnson being everywhere Lee Harvey Oswald and his wife, Marina were. The question comes up of who were the Kennedys and Bouviers, what bargains did they make and what did they know when they were making them, and afterwards? How did these "literary deals" and Jackie's sister's marriage to Canfield's adopted son influence the speech and actions of the members of the Kennedy and Bouvier families after the Assassination of JFK?*

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The original research displayed is the descriptions of the relationships between OSS, CIA, Cass Canfield, George E. McMillan and his one-time spouse, Priscilla Johnson McMillan, and with members of the John F. Kennedy and Jacqueline Bouvier families, as well as with Harper & Row Publishing and affiliated magazines, Harpers and Look. -

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Marina hired Priscilla's book agent. The net affect of Marina hooking up with Priscilla was literally bottling "Marina up", from early 1964 until 1978.

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Oswald Widow's Book .By Lynn Galloon . - Google News

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Marina's New York Agent, Perry Knowlton, and Harper and Row editors have forbidden ... book without their permission for at least a year after Its publication.

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Book To Be Published In The Fall .Oswald's Widow Breaks Silence .

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Marina's New York Agent, Perry Knowlton, and Harper and Row editors have ... their permission for at least a year after its publication Harper and Row editor ..
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The JFK Assassination - Discussion & Debate / Re: The smell of gunpowder
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 09:33:13 AM »
If the firecracker was homemade, from gunpowder, it would.

AI talk:

Yes, firecrackers smell different than gunsmoke. While both contain sulfur compounds, firecrackers use traditional black powder, giving off a strong "rotten egg" and charcoal smell. Modern firearms use relatively smokeless powder, which leaves behind a sharper, chemical, or "match-like" smell.

Firecrackers generally do not have cordite in the powder, while gunpowder does.

 
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   OK, so let's go at this another way. How did Prof G. Wiliam Jones "manage" to make a, "1st generation film-to-film copy of Darnell"?

Professor Jones probably made his copy in the 1970's when it was easier to simply approach NBC and order a copy...At the time Jones made his copy the technology was film to film copying...We know Jones made his copy film to film because the 6th Floor Museum copy is probably a celluloid copy...But most importantly we know Jones made his copy film to film because that was the only way the features could get sharper in the actual images...In short, what we see from the 6th Floor Museum copy with its better detail is proof in itself that the copy is film to film...One thing we know for certain is that the Prayer Man people will never look in to any of this because they are dishonest and they avoid pursuing anything they know will disprove them...


 
And the say-so of Gary Mack carries absolutely no weight. He was Wrong on: (1) Badge Man, (2) The McKinnon/Mumford ID, and (3) The Acoustic Evidence.

Mack was there and he probably talked to Jones about his copy...Or saw it in person...Again, the Prayer Man people will do no inquiry or seeking on this because they are trying to avoid admitting that the Jones collection copy is 1st generation and therefore possesses technical reasons why the dress neckline is real and therefore refutes the bogus Greg Parker Prayer Man theory...They could approach Jones' son but won't...
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