JFK Assassination Forum

It always amuses me when conspiracy hobbyists try to get Oswald off on technicalities. It is a tacit admission they know their client is guilty.

Our criminal courts have two very important missions, to find the truth while at the same time protecting the rights of the accused. Sometimes those two missions are at cross purposes and usually that means the courts come down on the side of protecting the rights of the accused, even if sometimes that means the guilty go free.

History has no such conflicts. It has no duty to protect the rights of the accused. It's sole purpose is to find the truth. That means looking at all available evidence without any concern for the rights of the accused. Even though Oswald was never tried in court, I have no problem concluding without a shadow of a doubt he was guilty. I feel the same way about O. J. Simpson. I can say without hesitation that both men were double murderers even though neither was ever convicted in court of those crimes. I'm glad they are both dead.

Great post.  I couldn't agree more with every single thing you said above.

Hi John, I totally get why you believe Oswald is carrying his rifle in the bag.
The Back Yard photos are genuine and show Oswald with a Mannlicher-Carcano. It is perfectly reasonable to assume this is the same rifle found on the 6th floor of the TSBD building and that it was Oswald who brought it there.
Oswald finds out JFK will pass the building and decides, for some strange reason, to kill him (even though his sworn enemy, Connally, will be in the motorcade). He keeps his rifle at the Paine house, Marina testifies to seeing a gun stock in a blanket bag in the garage, he has to break his routine and go to the Paine house on Thursday, he collects the rifle (later that day Marina sees that the rifle is no longer in the blanket bag) and he shows up for his ride to work with an unusually long package in which there is something substantial.
I get it.
But the fact remains, both Frazier and, in particular, Randall seem to describe Oswald carrying this package in ways which refute the notion that there is a 34.8 inch object in the bag.
Both of them.
It is poor methodology to write off their witness statements because the evidence they provide undermines your theory (and it is a theory, never forget that).
Frazier might not have been paying special attention to the package but he was fully aware of it and asked Oswald about it. He saw it put on the back seat and he saw Oswald carrying it under his armpit. This puts a limit on how long the object in the package is and it is physically impossible for an object more than 34 inches to be carried in such a way.
Importantly, Randall corroborates this observation with her own. You don't seem to understand how this is the case.
She describes Oswald holding the package in his right hand by the folded top of the bag acting as a handle. This mean the object is hanging below his hand and just above the ground. If the object in the package was almost 3 feet long it would be dragging across the floor behind him as he walked along. Oswald's physical stature - his height, the length of his arms, the length of his legs, etc. - determines the length of an object being carried in such a way.

There are many other issues with this bag that don't sit quite right, not least the fact that he never even needed to construct a bag to carry the rifle as he had his blanket bag with the rifle already in it.
Personally, the biggest problem I have with the bag is that it is found in the Sniper's Nest which implies Oswald took the disassembled rifle to that spot and assembled it while he was sat in the Sniper's Nest. I don't see how this is possible.

You agree that Oswald was carrying a long(ish) package to work that morning.  If not the rifle, what was in the bag?

RS:  I am talking about the dirt road portion of the Elm St Extension.

So why did you bring up the limo turn and traffic signal in the Wegman film?

there are NO BOLLARDS between Officer Harkness and this alleged motorcycle cop.

Yes there are! Not only can you see many of them in the Darnell film, others are made obvious when the motorcycle cop walks behind them.

Here, bollards are outlined in red. Note that one is in Harkness' shadow:


Here, "B" marks where the line of bollards is. You can see that two of them are silhouetted by the MC as he walks behind them:


Here he is a half step later:

                    - ANATOMY OF A CONSPIRACY -

                   (1) This man is NOT a Motorcycle Cop

                   (2) This man is NOT holding a glove in his (L) hand

                   (3) This man does NOT have a motorcycle

After decades of mostly fruitless research, even primary research into the JFKA, and participation in forums, I have come to some conclusions...not about the JFKA, but the JFKA research "community."

The vast majority of CT'ers rigidly insist LHO was entirely and completely innocent of the JFKA. They even hold to LHO's total innocence if they posit the JFKA was a CIA plot, and LHO was a long-time CIA asset or agent living in house at time run by the CIA asset Ruth Paine.

Why not assume, if the CIA waxed JFK, then LHO was a part of the plot, even if later LHO was made into a patsy and then murdered?

No!

It is chiseled into granite: LHO was only packing book-boxes on 11.22, in fact was on the street or somewhere at the time of the JFKA, and after the JFKA he went home and got a gun...oh, well never mind.

On the other side of the coin we have the LN'ers: LHO could only have acted alone. Absolutely. No other explanation is even possible!

This despite statements even by WC members that they were not satisfied with the WC results.

The third way (and my way!)---that LHO was part of a small JFKA plot, not connected to other powerful entities (except possibly tangentially) is not tolerated by either LN'ers or CT'ers.

So it goes.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

The reason the CTers clinging to, for the most part, the Oswald is totally innocent scenario, is it is a more compelling story. One of conspirators was caught and eliminated is not as compelling a story on a totally innocent man was blamed and we need to restore justice as best we can.

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I accept that Oswald probably acted alone because the news that JFK was coming through Dealey Plaza did not come out until Tuesday requiring Oswald to ask (and hopefully get) a special Thursday night ride from a coworker, where he could pick up his rifle. If he knew about it in advance, he could have had his rifle hidden in that large building a few days in advanced, and not risk having to make a trip the night before, which might not happen if his ride happens to call in sick that day.

Three days is not a lot of time to form a conspiracy. And there is no need for one. He just needs a car ride which he can do by lying about what was in the long paper bag.

And, in addition to seemingly being unnecessary, I see know compelling evidence that anyone else was involved.

Why would Haygood choose to WALK All the way over to this loading dock, when he could ride his motorcycle over there and secure this area much quicker?  Answer = That Ain't Haygood. This alleged motorcycle cop does Not have a motorcycle.

You seem to think that the more times you repeat this empty, nonsensical theory, the more it will make sense. It doesn't. Give up, man.