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My point, re: the OP...

If the curtain rods were important enough to require a special Thursday trip, then they would have been important enough to grab before leaving the Depository building to head home (since work was cancelled for the day).
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Royell Storing on April 18, 2026, 09:45:11 PM »
I don’t see any reason for China or Russia to be wiling to send aid to a radical Islamic regime that if they ever were in their wildest delusional dream to become the dominant world empire would have no problem at all following their false death cult version of Islam that says KILL ALL THE INFIDELS. Which would include the vast majority of Chinese and Russian people along with USA and European people and most of India too.

   "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". (ancient proverb)
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Zeon Mason on April 18, 2026, 09:39:07 PM »
I don’t see any reason for China or Russia to be wiling to send aid to a radical Islamic regime that if they ever were in their wildest delusional dream to become the dominant world empire would have no problem at all following their false death cult version of Islam that says KILL ALL THE INFIDELS. Which would include the vast majority of Chinese and Russian people along with USA and European people and most of India too.
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\  To test the location of the car either parked along the south (or north) curb of the Elm Extension, as seen in the Wiegman film, I plotted Wiegman’s position with test south curb versus north curb cars on a DP map. The plot showed the north curb car about twice the distance from the camera compared to a south curb car. Then for equal sized cars the north curb car would appear about one half the size of the south curb car to Wiegman’s camera.  I made a quick 3D view animation to demonstrate this and added a 5.5’ black suit man for comparison. It looks to me that the Wiegman car is nearer to the south curb. Note that I gave the test cars a steel-blue color (not white) for the 3D animation for modeling development use.

 



   Every Wiegman Film frame shows NO CAR parked alongside the Island behind Fedora Man. Robin Unger just posted a hi definition copy of this same Wiegman film snippet. THERE IS NO CAR. NOT YET!
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This article pretty much says it all:
https://legalclarity.org/what-percent-of-eyewitness-testimony-is-accurate/

The following paragraph echoes my thinking exactly:
"Human memory doesn’t work like a camera. When you recall an event, your brain reassembles fragments of what you saw, heard, and felt, filling in gaps with expectations, assumptions, and information you encountered afterward. This reconstructive process happens automatically, and the person doing the remembering usually has no idea it’s occurring. A witness who describes a vivid, detailed memory may be genuinely confident in every detail while being wrong about several of them."

The above paragraph reiterates some of the same points I've made numerous times in debating the JFKA online over the past 35 years. I have frequently said the human brain is not equipped with a DVR. We tend to remember bits and pieces of an event.  We don't always put the pieces together accurately or in the right order. A witness who is confident is not always accurate.

Nothing an eye or earwitness says can, by itself, establish something as factual. When a witness gives an account, it might or might not be accurate. In most cases if the witness is trying to be truthful, and I think most witnesses are, they will get some things wrong and some things right. The trick is to figure out which is which and for that we need to turn to other forms of evidence to confirm or refute what a witness has said. If your beliefs are based primarily on what an eyewitness has said, those beliefs are on a very shaky foundation.
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Hi Steve.

https://app.box.com/s/l5k8ahxrdq0lj2jcw5uggpdrf5bkgkzf



    Robin - Thanks for posting the above Wiegman Film snippet.  Just look through the legs of Fedora Man and those people standing near him. There is NO CAR measuring 17.5 feet long and standing almost 5 feet high parked alongside the Island behind these people. NOT YET!
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I don't believe anything Oswald said and nothing he said is the basis of my firm conviction that he was a double murderer.
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Oswald placed the package on the backseat of Fraziers car. That’s not “hiding” the package

If he had put the package in the trunk , maybe, but placing it on the back seat in plain view is not hiding.

Now I could easily believe   that a self avowed Marxist whom was a traitor to his country after taking vows as a USMC soldier and defected to the USSR could be a liar.

However whatever was stated by Oswald in private interviews which were not camera recorded or voice recorded and without attorney present, is subject to reasonable doubt.

I agree with JohnMs main premise  that Oswald’s actions are “strange” but I’m not sure that constitutes a conclusion of guilt for shooting Tippit or indicative of preplanned assassination of JFK.

One example of “strange “ behavior that is counter to what one would expect of a guy carrying a rifle is that Oswald did not immediately take the package out of Fraziers car and start walking to the TSBD. According to  Fraziers WC testimony , Oswald waited  by a fence with the package in hand for several minutes while Frazier ran the engine of his car apparently because his battery was weak or his alternator wasn’t charging the battery enough.

The only other examples  which MIGHT be interpreted as evidence of lies  are the 2 the camera recordings of Oswald:

A. When asked in the hallway the specific question “Did you shoot the President”? Oswald’s answer was “I didn’t shoot anybody” which indicates possibly a subconscious presumption he’s being asked about shooting Tippit also.

B. At the midnight conference, when asked again “Did you shoot the President? Oswald’s initial answer was “Nobody has charged me with that yet”  and “ I really don’t know what this is all about”, after which statements Oswald must have recalled his  earlier hallway answer , and corrected himself by saying “The first I heard of it was when I was asked by a reporter”.

 So Oswald trying to pretend : “I don’t  know what this is  all about “ realized too late that he DID know what it’s all about because he just earlier had answered that he hadn’t shot ANYBODY. And he also had stated that “they”were taking him in because  he had lived in the USSR and that he was just a patsy.

Since many CTs , (myself included 🙄 ) were all too willing to believe FBI agent Hosty note that  Oswald had gone outside to watch the P.Parade, then it might be evidence that Oswald  lied since the “Prayerman” figure has been reasonably concluded NOT to be Oswald.

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BTW, there is one coincidence involving CE399 that I find provocative, and have never seen discussed. Many skeptics say that CE399 was found not on Connally's stretcher, but on a different stretcher that carried a young boy named Ronnie Fuller back to minor surgery to have a nasty cut sewn up. This stretcher was piloted through the Parkland ER suite by a nurse's aide named Rosa Majors. But that's not the only role she played that day. Before Fuller needed help, Majors was in Trauma Room 2 while the medical staff was assessing Connally's wounds.  Her job there was to take possession of Connally's clothing, removing and collecting Connally's personal effects therefrom. That would have put her in prime contention of finding a bullet that had fallen from the wound in Connally's thigh. And if CE399 was indeed found on Fuller's stretcher, and was deliberately placed on it, then she becomes a prime suspect in placing there.

The confusion started with Tomlinson being unsure which stretcher CE399 was on. Recently SS Agent Paul Landis further muddied the waters with his statement that he found a bullet on the seat of the limo and put it in his pocket. He later placed it on a stretcher. It seems plausible to me that the bullet that made the shallow entry into JBC's thing before popping out could end up on his car seat. Also plausible Landis would put it in his pocket. It seems very odd to me that he would just casually put the bullet down on a stretcher. I can understand the Landis was probably not involved in many if any crime scene investigations but common sense should have told him that was a key piece of evidence that needed to be secured. I don't know if we can ever be sure exactly where  CE399 ended up but the important this is we know where it came from, Oswald's rifle.
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