It doesn't require one to think that two people who suddenly found themselves under fire, one of whom was actually hit, would not perceive the situation 100% accurately.

You continue to operate under the preposterous premise that people perfectly remember events. In reality, people remember bits and pieces of events and their minds try to fill in the blanks and not always accurately. JBC had no way of knowing whether the first shot hit inside the limo or not. Nellie would have had no indication of that either.

Later, when they were led to believe erroneously that JFK had been hit by the first shot, they came to believe that.

Of course we can see that didn't happen because we see JBC reacting to the first shot at about Z-164, just as he described.

You would have us believe he only imagined that he heard a shot and the first shot wasn't fired for another 3.5 seconds.

You then add to your silliness with the ridiculous conclusion that JBC was only hit in the thigh by that shot and didn't feel it.

Instead, for some inexplicable reason, just two frames after his jacket bulged out, his right arm suddenly flipped upward and back down in the span of 9 frames, 0.5 seconds, and immediately went into severe gyrations when he twisted and dipped to his right. You claim it was at this point that he was turning to see JFK and wasn't struck in the back until Z270.

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...So that’s how I approach JFKA claims and narratives. First and foremost, from the level of “Does this make any sense?” Does it have real-world plausibility? Does it reflect who the supposed participants really were, or have they been reinvented to fit the narrative? Does it fly in the face of better evidence and a simpler, more plausible narrative? When the answer to all of these questions is in the negative, I consign the claim or narrative to the lunatic fringe. In my experience, those in the lunatic fringe ignore all the threshold questions and leap directly into “connecting all the dots,” losing sight of the fact that the claim or narrative makes no sense or is wildly improbable; this is the conspiratorial love of complexity that Tom Bethell and the Dutch psychoanalyst talk about. Eventually, the claim or narrative takes on a cult-like life of its own.

With Tippit, we have a pretty straightforward narrative that extends from Oswald going to his room and getting his revolver to being arrested at the theater with his revolver. What is the raw likelihood that there was some incredible intervening event that either had nothing to do with Oswald, his revolver and the JFKA (i.e., Tippit was murdered for unrelated reasons) or was somehow part of a plot to either eliminate Oswald or further frame him? The JFKA itself framed him about as thoroughly as he could be framed. If the plot was to eliminate him, then why didn’t whomever shot Tippit just shoot Oswald (or shoot Oswald after Oswald shot Tippit)? I have a near-impossible time getting past the “What sense does this make?” question.

At one time, specifically in regard to the questions being raised about Craford in connection with Tippit, I researched him as best I could, all the way up to his death many years later. He was a complete nobody all his life. He was about as much a hitman as my grandmother and about as unlikely a Tippit assassin as one could imagine. Does his departure from Dallas look anything like a hitman on the run? Does the rest of his obscure life look like someone who had any connection to the JFKA or a hit on a policeman? In all the various scenarios into which he is plugged, all that I can see he has going for him is that he vaguely resembled Oswald and had some connection to Ruby.

The Tippit murder was a wholly unexpected, traumatic event with a chaotic aftermath. It isn’t surprising that there are conflicting witness statements and loose threads. Greg has assembled a number of items of reasonable doubt (with respect to those items) and an alternative scenario, just as he has alternative scenarios for the Walker attempt, the Furniture Mart visit and other aspects of the JFKA. They all seem to me to be creative brainstorming that was intended from the get-go to articulate an alternative scenario – and that’s fine because it’s kind of fun, but they do all seem to exemplify the conspiratorial love of complexity. Add them all together, and I say “Impossible, just flat impossible for me to believe the orthodox narrative and the hard evidence supporting it is wrong in that many respects.” I won’t use the phrase “lunatic fringe” because Greg has put a lot of original work into these scenarios and he does seem to acknowledge that he is somewhat “thinking out loud” and merely “suggesting,” as opposed to the aggressive sales job that MTG tries to do.

If there was “something more” to the Tippit shooting, my guess would be that the shooting itself took place as described in the orthodox narrative and the “something more” is to be found in (1) Tippit’s alleged actions in the time before he encountered Oswald and/or (2) the “why” questions that John Corbett chides me for even considering – Why the hell did Tippit stop Oswald? If Tippit thought there was anything suspicious, especially related to the JFKA, why the hell didn’t he take better precautions? Why the hell did Oswald completely short-circuit his escape and make things a hundred times worse for himself by immediately shooting Tippit in front of multiple witnesses?

Wow, 1,267 words. I have written almost three books already this morning! I am the Leo Tolstoy of JFKA forums! 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/817506332415313/posts/825759478256665/

J.D. TIPPIT: THE REAL TRUTH  ·
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. The house of at 10th & p    410E...  Was resided in by  Mrs witherspoon.  One of her daughters.   Johnnie maxie Witherspoon was having an affair with Tippit.  The other daughter.  Joy Dale (witherspoon) worked for Ruby in his club.  & old mother witherspoon herself knew oswald..   So it's of no coincidence is that that  spot at 10th & p was chosen as a deliberate Ambush spot..for Tippit

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/davis_vc.htm
...Mr. BELIN. You mean you didn't see him?
Mrs. DAVIS. We saw him when he cut across our yard.
Mr. BELIN. Where was he when you last saw him? He was---was he still in your yard, or was he on the sidewalk on Patton Street?
Mrs. DAVIS. He was still in our yard.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do
Mrs. DAVIS. We already called the police.
Mr. BELIN. You called the police before you saw him
Mrs. DAVIS. When Mrs. Markham was standing across the street hollering, she told us to call the police, so Jeanette and I went in there, and Jeanette called the police and we went back and he was cutting across our yard, and we gave him time to go on because we were afraid he might shoot us.
Mr. BELIN. Did you call the police before or after you saw him cut across your yard?
Mrs. DAVIS. Before.
Mr. BELIN. In other words, to your---to the best of your recollection, you heard the shots, you ran outside, you saw Mrs. Markham---did you see anything else when you saw Mrs. Markham?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; we just saw a police car sitting on the side of the road.
Mr. BELIN. Where was the police car parked?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was parked between the hedge that marks the apartment house where he lives in and the house next door.
Mr. BELIN. Was it on your side of East 10th or the other side of the street?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was on our side, the same side that we lived on.
Mr. BELIN. Was it headed as you looked to the police car, towards your right or towards your left?
Mrs. DAVIS. Right.
Mr. BELIN. Did you see any police officer in a police car when you first saw him?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir....

https://conspiracydossiers.com/2026/04/05/robert-perrin/
Who was Robert Perrin?
Dallas to New Orleans, 1961-1962
Nancy Perrin works at the Carousel Club
The Cuba Project Meetings
The Suicide of Robert Perrin, August 28, 1962
Harassment of Nancy Perrin Rich
Dallas-New Orleans Underworld
Notes
Who was Robert Perrin?
On October 11, 1920, Robert Lee Perrin was born in Kerkhoven, Swift County, Minnesota, USA.1 Very little is known about his life...

My memory is pretty good, folks. I remembered this thread started by Duncan at the Ed Forum in 2015: "Prayer Man is a Woman," https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22243-prayer-man-is-a-woman/#comment-314580. In retrospect, rather prescient. The howls of protest, especially from Robert Prudhomme, are still echoing. In an interesting sidelight, Jimbo pressed Duncan to reveal who John Mytton really is! (In the ultimate insult - to John, not me - shortly after I joined here it was suggested that this Lance punk is in fact a sock puppet of JM's.)