JFK Assassination Forum

I thought you did a good job in expressing your point of view.

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Sorry about that. I meant the midpoint between the first and last of the three.

You seem to be saying that since there were lots of witnesses who said there were three unevenly spaced shots and the second and third shots were closer together than the first and second ones, JFK must have been hit by the first shot because he started reacting before the "late" second shot had been fired.

Is that what you're saying?

TG--

Keep up the great work.

I am surprized that there are so many John Corbetts around here & elsewhere (ie that believe the WC report)(that Oswald fired 3 shots).
Me myself i got into the jfk saga 4 years ago & (with the help of some smart fellas around here) it took me only a few months to see that Oswald's first shot ricocheted offa the overhead signal arm.
And (with the help of some smart fellas not around here) i could see that Hickey fired an accidental auto burst of at least 4 shots the last being the headshot.
I will write a short quick eezy jfk book.  Praps in late 2026.
I am busy writing a book on billiards at present.
And then i will write a book on elekticity.
And then the jfk book.

ME: Is it true that the statements of 80-plus witnesses to the JFK assassination are inconsistent with the idea the first shot missed everything?

GROK: No, that claim is not accurate or well-supported. It appears to be a misrepresentation or exaggeration often circulated in conspiracy-oriented discussions, but it does not align with the body of witness statements, physical evidence, or official investigations.

This is why you shouldn't rely on AI. You need to look at the evidence from the original sources.

Last time it was 40 witnesses. Did 40 more come forward?

I gave you 46 witnesses whose evidence was that there was only one shot before the midpoint between the three shots and the last two were in "rapid succession", "real close" or words to that effect. They are:


Then there are at least 21 witnesses who said that JFK reacted right away to the first shot:


Then there are the people along Elm St. who put the first shot occurring at a point that is inconsistent with a first shot before about z186:


Cites to all of their evidence is provided in my paper that no one seems to want to read, so I have listed them so you can easily count them and see that 46+21+16=83 which is greater than 80.

The point is that the shot pattern evidence with the last two close together puts the second was after JFK starts reacting, which necessarily means the first shot did not miss, which fits with the 21 (there may be more) who saw JFK react to the first shot. This fits with first shot after z186 placed in different ways by the motorcade witnesses, those along Elm and photographers like Willis and Betzner, which also means the first shot did not miss. There are others I could have included. For example, I did not include Croft but he said that his z161 photo was before the first shot and that he had enough time to wind his camera before the first shot occurred.