JFK Assassination Forum

The car was always there but the ladies in front are blocking most of it.
The first image below is from the above photo gallery and you can see some of the car next to the lady with the folded arms and you can see the roof a little bit to her right.
I believe the car to our left is directly in front of this car and as can be seen the perspective angle relatively shortens the length and when approximately sized, fits well within the block of obscuring ladies.



Royell's Car on the extreme left and a car directly behind, shows that the car in the above image was behind Royell's car.



In this Couch frame, the end of the car is a good match compared to the folded arm lady and the roof section as compared to the ladies in Wiegman is a similar height.



JohnM

    The Couch still frame above shows "2 Guys" moving away from their "getaway" car. This is taking place only 20 seconds after the kill shot. Billy Lovelady is Not one of these "2 Guys". Lovelady is standing in front of the TSBD at the same time we are seeing these "2 Guys" on the Couch Film. Lovelady is almost standing exactly where we see him on the classic Altgens Photo. These "2 Guys" have been flushed out of their "getaway" car due to Officer Baker and Officer Smith running directly in front of their car immediately following the kill shot. These "2 Guys" having just jumped out of the "getaway" car, are now distancing themselves from the vehicle. The Couch Film shows them moving toward the "wide open" Huge Gates. These Huge Gates were the means by which the 6th Floor Assassins planned to exit the TSBD. The "getaway" car being only feet away, would then whisk them away from Dealey Plaza. Now, that plan was out. The "2 Guys" that we see moving away from the "getaway" car on the Couch Film, now needed to prevent the 6th Floor Assassins from walking into a hornets nest of cops.

I haven’t seen the footage that shows one glove missing from Michael Jackson

 

   BUMP

When you have evidence that answers your inane questions, get back to us.

   During this time period immediately following the kill shot, DPD Motorcycle Officer Haygood is supposed to be the only motorcycle officer inside the railroad yard. This was gospel until I proved that this is Not Officer Haygood.  (1) Who is this impostor? & (2) Where is his motorcycle? And, the kicker being that his present course has him heading directly toward the "getaway" car. 

Dear Royell,

Unlike you, I've got the basics right:

Lee Harvey Oswald, a psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist and former Marine sharpshooter, fired three shots at JFK over 10.2 seconds

-- Tom

I feel very strongly that the first shot was fired at or about Z151 and the total elapsed time for all three shots was about 8.75 seconds. I freely admit my conclusions is based on my analysis of clues I see in the Z-film and does not constitute proof positive. I am curious about those of you who think the first shot was fired before Zapruder resumed filming. How you can give such a precise time that first shot was fired. It can't be based on the Z-film because Zapruder wasn't filming at the time you theorize the first shot was fired.

I pretty much concur with the rest of your conclusions although I would nitpick slightly over one of your time frames. I believe the second shot was fired at Z220 based on the camera jiggle at Z227. The head shot is the easiest to pinpoint and for that shot to have struck at Z313, it would have to have been fired at Z311. I would expect the same lag time between the shot being fired and Zapruder's jiggle reaction for all three shots since the distance between Oswald's rifle and Zapruder's ears was a constant. I believe that to be about 7 frames while acknowledging the true number is likely not an integer.

Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

    This is a Couch Film still frame. It happened at 20 seconds after the kill shot. On the extreme (R) you see Officer Baker running toward the TSBD front door. Behind Officer Baker, we see "2 Guys" moving away from a parked car. In front of Officer Baker, standing on the TSBD front steps, is BILLY LOVELADY. It is Physically Impossible for either of the "2 Guys" we see behind Officer Baker to be Bill Lovelady. Billy Lovelady can Not be in 2 places at the same time.