JFK Assassination Forum

   Which raises the question of why a man shot in the Back, is covering his mouth?

Great point, Royell. Please see my response to Jarrett Smith, below).

You are repeating your very poor analysis of what you see JBC doing after he was shot. He is clearly dipping and doubling over to his right in reaction to the bullet that just passed through his chest and you think he was turning to see JFK. If that's why he was turning, why the hell are his eyes looking down to his right? Your explanation of his movements following the shot are as FUBAR as it gets.

This is a classic example of trying to drive a square peg into a round hole. You are trying to force fit the evidence to your beliefs rather letting the evidence dictate your beliefs. The only thing dumber than your belief that JBC wasn't hit until Z270 is Benjamin Cole's belief he wasn't hit until Z295. I'm sorry but you only get the silver medal for silliness in this event.

So you must think the FBI were stupid too. I didn’t make their model:

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Years ago I did the math on the drop of a bullet at 300 fps over 70 years, and it wasn't much.

AI version:

At 300 fps, a heavy bullet like a .30-06 drops approximately 8.5 to 9 inches at 70 yards.

So a shot aimed at JFK's head from the TSBD6 would drop down to about where he was struck in the back. Remember, I said an underpowered bullet. Many witnesses describe the first shot as faint, or different in pitch and volume, from succeeding shots.

Maybe LHO hand-packed his first shot, as he seemed rather thin on ammo.

Then there is this:

AI version:

A bullet traveling at 300 fps at 70 yards will likely penetrate about 1 to 2 inches (2.5 to 5 cm) into human tissue. Because 300 fps is roughly the speed of an airsoft gun or a highly spent projectile, it generally lacks the energy to shatter bone or reach vital organs.

So, an underpowered hits JFK were it did, but was possibly dis-jarred by the shock wave through his body by the shot at Z-313.

This narrative rests on Paul Landis being accurate in his recollections.

I really don't understand your [John Corbett's] obstinancy on this.

You really don't? After all this time?

I'm sure you meant to say "obstinacy." There's no such word as "obstinancy." I mention this only because of your repeated references to your "IQ or academic honors."

Oswald was a very visible Pro-Castro Guy in the hotbed of New Orleans long before the JFKA.  We don't know what contacts he may have made in the pro-Castro community or the anti-Castro-posing-as-pro-Castro community. JFK's trip to Dallas was announced even before he went to MC. In MC he reportedly said some wild-and-crazy things. We don't know what contacts he may have made there. It is not at all implausible that he would have been on the radar screen of anyone, up to and including Marcello's guys, long in advance of the JFKA. There was going to be a hit on JFKA in Dallas, and Oswald was one of Their Guys, either as a participant or a dupe. Possible locations in Dallas were scouted before the motorcade route was finalized - hence Oswald's inquiry at the Allright Parking Garage a week before. If he was a dupe in a Mafia or anti-Castro conspiracy, the conspirators would not have cared whether he was killed in the TSBD or lived to stand trial because anything he knew - or thought he knew - pointed exactly where they wanted it to point.

There is nothing inherently implausible about this scenario. The issue is, what evidence supports it? Gus Russo is clearly a Grade A researcher of the JFKA. I only wish he hadn't dropped from the scene and had been a little more forthcoming about his contacts with the G2 folks.

I agree with you completely: there's absolutely nothing inherently implausible about this scenario. I also agree that Gus Russo produced a lot of valuable research.

But, well, as you know, John Corbett says the scenario is inherently implausible and dismisses Russo's important discoveries with the juvenile response of "once again, nobody cares."

Your [John Corbett's] logic seems to flow backwards.

Now you're catching on!

You start with the unlikelihood that JFK's motorcade would pass at 11 mph directly in front of Oswald's perch - which is equally unlikely regardless of whether there was any conspiracy - and then declare it impossible that conspirators would have known this in advance. They DIDN'T NEED TO KNOW this long in advance. Once the motorcade route was announced, they realized they had indeed got extremely lucky. (We could go off on the tangent that the turn onto Elm was "arranged," but I am trying to keep this as realistic and plausible as possible.)

Actually, the HSCA proved that the turn was not necessary and that the WC and the Secret Service were wrong for claiming it was unavoidable. And, Vince Palamara, recognized as the foremost authority on the Secret Service aspect of the case, has documented suspicious conduct by certain SS personnel before, during, and after the assassination.

The Mafia and G2 are two of the scenarios that can't simply be dismissed with a wave of the hand. They may be 100% incorrect, but they can't just be dismissed.

You're absolutely correct, once again. However, as you know, John Corbett insists they are total "BS" and can indeed be summarily dismissed.

BTW, it's worth mentioning that Rockefeller Foundation fellow Henry Hurt, author of the best-selling book Reasonable Doubt, allowed that Cuban intelligence may have played a role in the assassination.

I am not sure what it is about JBC’s lack of physical sensation from his thigh wound that you find laughable. Perhaps you are not aware that bullet wounds are often not felt.

It's called sensory overload. The brain can only process so much information at a time. The blow to his back overwhelmed the signals his wrist and his thigh were sending. These nerve impulses would all get sent almost at the same instant and the blow to the back was the one his brain processed.

https://www.healthline.com/health/sensory-overload

"Sensory overload happens when you’re getting more input from your five senses than your brain can sort through and process."