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LP--

Even the best CT'ers and LNT'ers seem vulnerable to certain CT eccentricities.

Both groups remind me of lawyers, PR representatives or partisans arguing a case.

If I say I have reasonable doubts Gov. JBC held onto his Stetson hat in his right hand after being shot through the right wrist by large slug that tumbled inside his wrist (the WC LNT SBT) an LNT'er will then say my doubts are unreasonable. I say Cyril Wecht agrees with me. The LNT'ers say Wecht was a bum. And so on.

On the CT side, I say I think nothing funny happened at Bethesda, other than perhaps a less-than-stellar autopsy. I am told I work for the CIA.

So it goes.

Maybe Wecht wasn't a bum!

Maybe he was the only one who was right, and the eight other forensic pathologists on the HSCA panel were bums or ... gasp ... compromised by the evil, evil, evil CIA!

That must be it!
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK Videos
« Last post by David Von Pein on Yesterday at 10:28:16 AM »
Sunday, September 27th, 1964: The Warren Commission's final report is released to the public. And the Columbia Broadcasting System Television Network aired this outstanding two-hour commercial-free special. My webpage linked below also contains several newspaper pages from Sept. 1964:





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LP--

Even the best CT'ers and LNT'ers seem vulnerable to certain CT eccentricities.

Both groups remind me of lawyers, PR representatives or partisans arguing a case.

If I say I have reasonable doubts Gov. JBC held onto his Stetson hat in his right hand after being shot through the right wrist by large slug that tumbled inside his wrist (the WC LNT SBT) an LNT'er will then say my doubts are unreasonable. I say Cyril Wecht agrees with me. The LNT'ers say Wecht was a bum. And so on.

On the CT side, I say I think nothing funny happened at Bethesda, other than perhaps a less-than-stellar autopsy. I am told I work for the CIA.

So it goes.

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Are we supposed to believe that after his encounter with Baker, Oswald took his tan shirt off, walked past Reid with just the white t-shirt, then put it back on when he got on the bus and was spotted wearing the tan shirt by his former landlady.


Why shouldn’t we believe that? It seems to go together with LHO’s apparent behavior when seen running away from the scene near the Patton and 10th street intersection. (Ditching the white jacket so his appearance would be different due to his then wearing the brown shirt and hopefully making him harder to track.) This is also similar to what “The Fugitive” did on TV that LHO reportedly liked to watch. After shots were fired in Dealey Plaza, LHO did literally become a fugitive. That explanation makes perfect sense to me.

My thoughts exactly, Oswald's later behaviour with the jacket shows where his mind was, the thought of the spendthrift Oswald discarding a perfectly good jacket easily demonstrates that Oswald would do whatever it took to evade capture.

I've seen some persuasive arguments that Oswald was wearing his white T-shirt when he was shooting from the 6th floor and then Oswald put on his brown shirt when seen by Baker and then it makes sense that Oswald who would have been a bit apprehensive after being seen by the Law, simply wrapped his shirt around his waist when seen by Reid, much like the following image and to be honest, at first I didn't even notice the shirt around her waist! ;)



To better visualize the Reid encounter, Oswald was seen by Reid going through the door, pic 27 and they crossed paths at the hand written "XR".



JohnM
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My problem with Trump is that he appears to be waffling. (Even Mark Levin is staring to wonder what’s up.) How many more insulting responses and videos from Iranian regime nuts taunting Trump do we tax paying Veteran citizens of USA have to endure?

It’s pathetic. It’s going to be Jimmy Carter 2.0 soon if Trump doesn’t FINISH THE DAMN JOB.

Trump was bragging it was over in 3 days. Mission Accomplished 2.0 it looks like now if he lets this Iranian Death Cult Islamo-fascist regime survive.

Dear Freon,

How do you propose that Putin's "useful idiot" (or worse) buddy, The Traitorous Orange Turd, "finish the job?

-- Tom
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It is simply imprecise. JBC described how he remembered reacting to being shot and the frame he believed he was struck at. What he didn't recall was his immediate initial reflexive and involuntary response when he flipped his injured right arm in reaction to having his wrist shattered. He wasn't even aware of his wrist injury until he came out of surgery.

JBC believed he was facing straight ahead when he was hit by the second shot and looking at the Z-film frames, he saw he reached that forward facing position at Z230, The Z-film actually shows he was hit about a half second earlier as evidenced by the jacket bulge at Z224 and the arm flip which began att Z226.
My point is that LNs have convinced themselves that JBC is reacting to his torso wound by z230 without looking at the evidence first - just by watching the zfilm.
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Oh, dear me.

You mean you and Steve Roe have joined those other CT'ers, and some LNT'ers, who claim to have some sort of critical information that confirms their theories, but which they are unable to release to the public?

Shades of the Pierre Laffite datebook, and Leslie Sharp, and the Truth: Nazis waxed JFK and put Trump into power....



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LP:

Evidently you contend you know more about Inspector Sawyer saw and did on 11.22 than Sawyer himself, and as he testified under oath to the WC. 

Well, hubris is sometimes a trait of CT'ers and LNT'ers.
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So no radio, but it might be a signaling device like the click clack toy that the 82nd Airborne and 101st combat soldiers used in the middle of the night during the WW2 Normandy invasion?

I’d rather go with the flashlight idea. This Lone Nut Cop could turn it on and off and use Morse code if necessary. It’s staring to make more sense to me now that I’m opening my mind and abandoning the narrow thought process I was using to imagine that CIA spook scenario.

Thanks Royell. 😀

    Yes. The shape of the object in his (L) hand looks like a short flashlight. And like I said previously, this Bogus Motorcycle Cop was Not holding anything in his (L) hand when he was previously filmed walking along the string of passenger train cars.
    On better copies of the Darnell Film, (almost all Darnell copies are pretty dismal), this alleged DPD Cop can be seen to be walking in a Downward direction from that string of passenger train cars. Which begs the question, Where is he coming from when we first see him on the Darnell Film?
    DPD Motorcycle Officer Haygood's WC Testimony makes absolutely NO Mention his of being physically around train cars or his walking toward/down the Elm St Extension. That ain't Haygood on the Darnell and Martin films.   
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I think Trump knows exactly what he's doing. The term crazy-like-a-fox certainly applies to him. Trump has two modes, one political, one governing. On the campaign trail, he is a caricature. He resorts to hyperbole and exaggeration. I think he learned that from spending time with the McMahons and WWE. He saw how wrestlers drive people's emotions playing over-the-top caricatures. Both the good guys and the villains do that. Even people who believe pro wrestling is staged get caught up in it. I used to attend the WWE matches when they came to my hometown. I used to have fun guessing what the script would be. Wrestlers are not the same people when they are away from the ring and the TV cameras. Hulk Hogan used to have a reality TV show and when he was home, he wasn't Hulk Hogan. He was Terry. So it is with Trump. He is one guy at his rallies or in front of the TV cameras. When out of the spotlight, he is much more measured in the way he governs. It has worked well for him so far. Why would he change?

I agree with you that it remains to be seen what his legacy will be. That's why I still put Reagan #1 among the presidents in my lifetime. Trump could move into the top spot depending on what he accomplishes in the remainder of his term. I think that will largely depend on the results of the midterms.

You are spot on but I don't think the midterms matter.  My best guess is that the Dems take the House.  Perhaps it's not the massacre many predict but enough to flip it.  Trump has relied very little on congress even with republican majority.  The Dems will spend their time trying to impeach Trump.  They have no real policies except opposing Trump.  That is likely good news for Vance or Rubio in '28.  They can blame the Dems for spending their time undermining Trump over the next two years.  The Dems fall into the same trap over and over.  Their only objective is to oppose Trump.  They always overplay that hand.
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