JFK Assassination Forum

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One can fabricate any number of CT's, by the use on "links " or motivations.

The Vatican had huge reasons for wanting JFK out of the picture; they were the largest landowner in SV, and had 1.5 million adherents whose lives could be threatened in a communist takeover, one marked by extreme aggression.

CIA Director John McCone was a Knight of Malta, and Angleton had received the n 1946 th Grand Cross by the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) from the Vatican, and he ran the "Vatican desk" at the CIA.

Jeff Morley dog whistles Mossad perped the JFKA, but if one wants to offer crackpot speculation, the Vatican is a tidy suspect.

And Madame Nhu was in the US when her husband and brother in law (the Diems) were assassinated by the Kennedy Administration. She vowed revenge. Ed Lansdale was her close friend....

-- If Secret Service agent Paul Landis was telling the truth when he reported, shortly before he died...

Where (and when) did you get the information that Paul Landis had died?

I haven't heard any news at all about Mr. Landis passing away, and I can't find anything about it on the Internet either (as of January 17-18, 2026).

Dear Comrade Storing,

How do you know there were two guys in that in the car we see in the Robert Hughes clip and at the 08:56 mark in this video?

-- Tom

  At the 8:55 mark you can clearly see a string of passenger train cars in the background. The 2 Unknown Figures on the Couch/Darnell films are walking directly toward these passenger train cars. Also, has anyone EVER seen a 11/22/63 image of a "boxcar" inside that RR Yard? The "3 Tramps" were supposed to have been pulled out of a "boxcar" inside that RR Yard.

"Conspiracy theories can be terrifyingly effective at ensnaring anyone with OCD symptoms or obsessive tendencies. Conspiracies take advantage of a number of different patterns of thinking: relational framing, narrative psychology, apophenia, explanation-seeking, and experiential learning. And once they get in your head, they quickly become self-perpetuating and self-reinforcing. These patterns are tricky to escape."

Psychology Today, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/triggered/202101/ocd-and-qanon-the-obsessive-appeal-conspiracy-theories.

Alas for OCD/TDS Tom, Royden served nearly 40 years with the CIA, was Director of Counterintelligence, and taught counterintelligence at the Joint Military College of the Department of Defense.

Alas for OCD/TDS Tom, Royden's article was published in Studies In Intelligence,, a peer-reviewed academic journal published by the CIA-affiliated Center for the Study of Intelligence (https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/) and that serves as "the US Intelligence Community's professional journal," publishing pieces by "intelligence experts and scholars throughout the world." What I linked was not declassified until 2019. It was not a popular-level, hope-this-sells-and-makes-me-some-money-in-my-old-age grudge-settling fluff piece.

"Screed," indeed.

Tennent Bagley, not so much. His once-meteroic career stalled and he took "early retirement" (wink wink) at age 46 in 1972 precisely because his perspective on Nosenko and obsession with moles was deemed "just a bit" off-kilter. All of this, of course, makes him the voice of authority to OCD/TDS Tom, who occupies that curious end of the human psychology spectrum where white is black, truths are lies, up is down, speculation is fact - and the more preposterous a conspiracy theory is, the more likely it is to be true by virtue of its very preposterousness.

OCD/TDS Tom is, of course, the ultimate JFKA ideologue. Such is his TDS that he needs - NEEDS - his KGB stuff to be true in order to explain the rise of The Donald. This is true even though, even if the KGB stuff were true, it would not even vaguely explain The Donald. Indeed, OCD/TDS Tom's efforts to connect his KGB stuff to his TDS stuff are the most preposterous aspects of his theory.

As predicted in my original post, I have triggered OCD/TDS Tom. My folly, I suppose, but perhaps some of you had not seen Royden's piece.

Dear FPR,

It's clear to me that you don't have the "gonads" to actually read honored-by-CIA Bagley's 2007 Yale University Press book, Spy Wars, or even his 2014 follow--up article, "Ghosts of the Spy Wars," or ... gasp ... even my Wikipedia article on him (which you or any other "useful idiot" can try to permanently edit).

Perhaps your wife told you not to? (wink-wink)

-- Tom

https://archive.org/details/SpyWarsMolesMysteriesAndDeadlyGames

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08850607.2014.962362

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennent_H._Bagley

Let’s examine this “Ruby foreknowledge” CT bombshell:

1. Our hero was Robert Murray Vanderslice, born in 1926 and died (in Dallas) in 1979.

2. He was an IRS tax informant, focusing on bookies, from 7/23/76 to 2/18/77 (six months). He was paid $135 for his services and $2.89 for expenses.

3. His last contact with the IRS was on 1/24/77. The IRS special agent to whom he was assigned, Lawrence Sandri, said he had never mentioned Ruby or anything about the JFKA.

4. At a restaurant lunch with the IRS local Intelligence Division Manager, Arlen Fuhlendorf, early in 1977 (some 14 years after the JFKA), he started talking about stripper Candy Barr (who did have a non-romantic, non-employment relationship with Jack Ruby a decade before the JFKA).

5. This somehow led to a discussion of Ruby. Vanderslice told Fuhlendorf that on the morning of the JFKA, Ruby had contacted him to watch the motorcade and had asked if he’d like to “watch the fireworks.” In CT world, this remark can have no meaning other than Ruby’s foreknowledge of the JFKA.

6. They watched the motorcade together from a corner near the Postal Annex. Following the JFKA, Ruby left, without comment, for the Dallas Morning News.

7. At the same lunch, Vanderslice divulged that he had been arrested and incarcerated at the Dallas County Jail at the same time Ruby was there. As a jail trustee, he said, he got to know Ruby better – but he said nothing further about the supposed foreknowledge or motorcade incident.

8.  Fuhlendorf told the FBI that “as far as he knew” Vanderslice had been a reliable tax informant, but he did not know if he was truthful about Ruby. He initially reported the lunch conversation in a memorandum to the IRS national office for transmission to the HSCA, but the IRS returned the memo and told him to contact the Dallas office of the FBI. (The memorandum never surfaced.)

9. Vanderslice went to astounding lengths to avoid repeated efforts by both the FBI and IRS to contact him about his Ruby tale. Fuhlendorf thought he might have “been untruthful” or perhaps had “second thoughts” and had gotten “cold feet” after being told he might have to testify before the HSCA.

10. Because Vanderslice’s tale was inconsistent with Ruby’s WC testimony and that of a Dallas Morning News advertising department employee concerning Ruby’s activities on 11-22-63, and because Vanderslice was clearly avoiding both the FBI and IRS, the FBI abandoned further efforts to contact him.

11. On the last attempted contact, his wife said he was in Wichita Falls, “trying to make a buck here and there.”

Ho-hum, such is the stuff of which conspiratorial bombshells are made in MTG’s goofy end of the CT spectrum.

“Foreknowledge of the assassination.” BWAHAHA. 

Not exactly a major exercise in factoid-busting, I’ll concede, but an interesting 30 minutes of mental exercise for your intrepid Factoid Buster.