JFK Assassination Forum

Do I find problems with Obama playing golf 41 times a year? I would if he insisted he needed a huge ballroom that would dwarf the White House itself for safety reasons, while still going golfing 41 rounds a year. It is inherently harder to guard a President on a golf course than at the Washington Hilton.

If Trump insists he needs a ballroom, while the Washington Hilton seems adequate, the would-be shooter never got close to him, but insists on going golfing 50 times a year. Golfing is not a security threat but not having the Golden Ballroom is. Makes no sense.

  The golf stuff above is age old Fake News clap trap. You demean yourself by willfully becoming nothing more than a myna bird.

Sounds like you are talking about the Daniel Film.

Robin would a clearer blowup show Bell standing/filming in front of the peristyle in the uppest part of that pix.

AI Overview
Yes, an AR-15 (likely an early Colt Model 601 or 602) fired 6 times in 1963 would produce a distinct and likely strong, pungent, or acrid odor to anyone nearby.
While modern, high-quality ammunition is relatively clean, several factors in 1963 would make the scent intense.
Why It Would Smell Strongly in 1963
Lubricant Burn-off: Early AR-15s were often heavily treated with packing grease and, when in use, required generous lubrication (like LSA). Firing 6 rounds would heat the rifle, burning off this oil and grease, which creates a very pungent, hot oil smell.
Acrid Gunpowder: Early .223 ammunition utilized specific nitrocellulose propellants that produce a sharp, acrid odor (sometimes described as sulfurous) when burning.
Direct Impingement System: Because the AR-15 directs gases back into the action/bolt carrier group, that burnt powder smell and oil vapors are released near the shooter's face/upper body, making the smell more noticeable than in traditional rifles.
Factory Residue/Grease: New rifles in that era often arrived with thick, pasty protective grease designed for long-term storage, which "smokes" or smells intensely when first fired.

Contextual Factors
Ammonia Smell: Some early or slightly degraded ammunition from that era might produce a strong ammonia scent, especially if moisture was present in the powder, which can happen if the gun is fired shortly after removal from storage.
The "Burning Oil" Factor: If the weapon was heavily lubricated with CLP or LSA (common for military testing), the smell would be quite pungent, similar to "burnt oil + burning engine paint" or a "machine shop".

In summary, 6 shots of early 1960s ammo would be enough to create a distinct, pungent aroma that would linger in the immediate area.

Here is Andrew Mason's drawing showing how he thinks the bullet exiting JFK's throat could have struck JBC in the thigh without first passing through his torso:


Here are some photos which he says simulate JBC's position at Z193:

Even the photo looks to me that JBC is turned farther to the right than we see in Z193 but let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say the photo acurately depicts JBC's position. The drawing shows an exaggerated turn to the right and even then shows there was barely enough room for the bullet to miss JBC's torso and still find his thigh. Note how dissimilar these two representations are. The drawing shows an extreme turn to the right. Note how much further forward JBC's left shoulder is in the drawing than in the photo. Note how much more it is turned to the right in the drawing than in the photo.

So even using his photo of JBC's simulated position, JBC's left shoulder is not turned anywhere near far enough to create an open path from JFK's throat to JBC's thigh. He has to exaggerate JBC's position at Z193 to even show a theoretical possibility of his SBT 2.0 scenario. This is why I said earlier it is impossible.

EDIT: I should have included the actual Z193 frame when I first posted this so I am adding it now:


Compare JBC's shoulder turn in the actual frame to Andrew's photos and drawing.

Andrew’s  Z193 drawing matches more closely with the way JC had turned himself almost 180 degrees at Z270 than it does with how JC appears at Z193.

Not sure that a VIP Statesman like JC would sit in a limo jump seat with his legs spread wide apart as that might invite some photograph depicting such posture which might be used to suggest the VIP was undignified.

So that’s why I think that JohnMs diagram of how JC had rotated both legs towards the right would facilitate a more comfortable as well as a more appropriate posture for a VIP. Plus it aligns the right wrist with hat upside down with a bullet path thru JCs upper body with a  trajectory line from TSBD at Z224.

You might think Israel had nothing to do with the JFKA.

And in fact, for six decades in the JFKA snipe hunt the CT'ers tossed up the CIA, the MIC, various elite cabals, Cuban exiles and mercs, the Mafia, LBJ and racists as suspects.

Some righties, such as former CIA director James Woolsey, have posited the KGB was involved. (LBJ pretty much told the WC not to pursue leads into Moscow and Havana).

But now...the leftie CT'ers say Mossad perped the JFKA.

The word "Israel" has appeared the JFKA (dis)Education Forum 2,807 times. Yes, Israel.

The CT'er crowd has always been infested with far lefties and the disgruntled, the same crowd that now wears keffiyehs and valorizes Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRGC. This crowd (many of which are likely financed out of Tehran) has been blending the JFKA with their hatred of Western free-market liberal democracies.

You might remember what happened on 10.7, when Hamas invaded Israel, massacring 1,200 after torturing and raping many.

Yes, Israel responded.

From the moderator of the (dis) Education Forum we get this take on 10.7:

"For nearly 30 years, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has driven the Middle East into war and destruction. The man is a powder keg of violence. Throughout all the wars that he has championed, Netanyahu has always dreamed of the big one: to defeat and overthrow the Iranian Government. His long-sought war, just launched, might just get us all killed in a nuclear Armageddon, unless Netanyahu is stopped."

Yes, if the IRGC gets nukes...you will be safe?

Well, the struggles of Israel to survive are off-topic in this forum, so I won't belabor readers with my views.

But beware there are Tehran- and Moscow-financed narratives floating around the JFKA, and many useful idiots using the JFKA as a platform for their ideological or ethnic biases.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

Is it true that Israel is buying stolen Ukrainian grain from Russia?