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On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 34, with Steve Barber on the Acoustics Evidence.

It was a delight to chat with Steve Barber on the acoustics evidence and his experiences with fellow researchers.
Don't miss this evidence for some never-before-seen photographs.


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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 12:29:42 PM »
I guess all of us can just stay home during the 2028 election since Putin is going to pick our next President for us.

He doesn't need to, Corbett, because since the 1959 Master Plan has worked to perfection, irreparable damage has already been done to our country by The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx"), the PayPal Mafia, Christian Nationalists, The Traitorous Orange Bird's (rhymes with "Xxxx's") own corrupt family, and oodles and gobs of zombified MAGATs like you.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 12:11:24 PM »
It's a pity that you're so in love with Trump's Diminutive Shank, Corbett.

I guess all of us can just stay home during the 2028 election since Putin is going to pick our next President for us.
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Oh boy. Those elastic sections are in just about every jacket of that type. I have two windbreaker type jackets that have exactly the same elastic sections at the same place. No big deal. But what the photos do show (and Johnny simply ignores) is that the sleeves of the white jacket are far larger that the one's on Oswald's grey jacket. So much for similarity! You just see what you want to see.


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But what the photos do show (and Johnny simply ignores) is that the sleeves of the white jacket are far larger that the one's on Oswald's grey jacket.

Sure Oswald was a Gorilla, Hilarious!

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I have two windbreaker type jackets that have exactly the same elastic sections at the same place. No big deal.

Wow, in 2026, you claim to own two of that type of jacket, please take a photo of the two jackets and show us the two elastic gathered sections on the back and I hope they're a light grey/beige shade! Then post them in this thread. Waiting....Zzzzzz...

JohnM
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My guess is that Helen Markham very likely timed it so that she would be at the Jefferson & Patton bus stop at approximately 1:15 every day, and she would (of course) then catch the next bus to come by that was going downtown (whenever that was, at 1:22, or 1:26, whenever). That way, she would be a little early to catch the next bus. Makes sense to me anyway.

I agree, that's the most likely scenario. Buses seldom run on exactly the time of their schedule. But Markham indicated that she would be at the bus stop at 1.15 and she would then just wait for the next bus to show up.

But that doesn't answer the question I asked Bill Brown. For Markham to get to the bus stop at 1.15 (regardles which bus she took, a delayed 1.12 or the 1.122) she still needed to walk two blocks in about five to six minutes to get there. So, she would have left 9th street at around 1.09 or 1.10 and get to 10th and Patton at about 1.13. According to Dale Myers, Tippit was shot at 1.14.30, so are we really to believe that Markham just stood around at the intersection of 10th and Patton for two minutes or so and likely risk (in her perception) missing her bus to work?
That doesn't make sense at all.

We don't have time stamps for any event related to the Tippit shooting until a citizen radioed in the report from Tippit's cruiser. Every other event is based on ESTIMATED times. You cannot do precise calculations if you don't start with precise figures.
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For what it's worth, there certainly is an FBI report which states that Linnie Mae Randle originally stated (on the afternoon of the assassination) that the bag she saw Oswald carry that morning was 36 inches long.

It isn't worth much.

Indeed there is. Bookhout wrote the FD 302 for internal use. Randle never saw it and it can hardly be described as evidence.
But even if it could be considered to be evidence, it contradicts all other statements Randle ever made and it's only mentioning an estimation.

Isn't the LN clan allergic to estimates?

There is no way a 36 inch bag would fit between Oswald armpit and the cup of his hand, and it would have been impossible to be carried they way Randle described and not hit the ground.

You're flogging a dead horse.
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GREAT find, John.  I've never caught that before.

Thanks.  That's very valuable.

Yeah, you bet. It makes Weidmann's story about Jacket swaps more ridiculous than ever! He is such a Dufus. Anyway, here's a higher resolution photo that better shows the gathered material.



JohnM
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I've never said we should write of witness statements. I'm saying we need to determine if what a witness tells us can be corroborated or refuted by other evidence. In this case both Frazier and Randle are refuted by the forensic evidence because the bag was found and measured to be 38 inches long, plenty long enough to hole the 34.8 inch stock.

This is just about the most stupid statement I've seen you make so far. You have no evidence whatsoever that the bag found on the 6th floor ever left the TSBD, ever held a broken down rifle (an FBI export could find no markings in the bag that would expected to be there is a broken down rifle had been in it) or that Oswald carried that bag on Friday morning. All you have are self-serving assumptions that you call "forensic evidence". You do understand that with enough assumptions you can make anybody look guilty of anything, right.

No evidence? Seriously? How do you suppose the bag contained Oswald's prints and fibers matching the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle in the Paine garage. Maybe it was by PFM (Pure Freaking Magic)

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So why don't you stop assuming and get back to us when you have some actual proof that the bag found on the 6th floor was indeed the bag Oswald was carrying (between the cup of his hand and his armpit) on Friday morning. This LN crap is getting so tiresome!


Absolute proof is not available nor does it need to be in order to be probative. Oswald carrying the rifle into the TSBD in the bag Frazier and Randle saw him with is simply far and away the most likely explanation and fits perfectly with all the other available evidence pointing to Oswald as the assassin. The rifle found on the 6th floor was probably his. It was matched to the shells in the sniper's nest and the only two recovered bullets from the shooting to the exclusion of all other weapons in the world. Oswald's palm and fingerprints were found on the boxes at the window where a shooter was seen. To believe Oswald brought his rifle into work that morning in the brown paper bag Frazier saw him with, I only have to believe that both Frazier and Randle misjudged the length of the bag, which is not a stretch at all. It's the kind of mistake witnesses routinely make. People simply aren't that observant about details and our brains are not equipped with DVRs.
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Randle corroborates Frazier when it comes to the maximum size of the bag. Accept it and get over it!

One fallible witness is not much corroboration for another fallible witness.
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Hilariously stupid. Just how pathetic can you be? First of all, they found Oswald's dark grey jacket at the TSBD, so that's the one he must have been wearing on Friday morning.
Secondly, even if he had been wearing the light grey jacket that morning, then how in the world did that get to Oak Cliff for Oswald to pick it up and put on? Oswald left the TSBD wearing no jacket, right? Roberts said he entered the rooming house wearing no jacket, right? So, come on, genius, tell is how did the light grey jacket get to the rooming house if Oswald had worn it to the TSBD on Friday morning?

Hahahaha! Gotcha, Frazier your star witness with the photographic memory had never seen CE163 ever before and don't forget that Frazier sat right next to Oswald for about half an hour on the way to work! And you expect Frazier to remember Oswald in the five or so minutes they walked from the car to the loading dock, where Oswald ended up about 50 feet away??



Mr. BALL - I have here Commission's 163, a gray blue jacket. Do you recognize this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't.
Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald wear this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't believe I have.


 :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

JohnM
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 11:49:39 AM »
It's amazing what TDS can do to a person's mind.

It's a pity that you're so in love with Trump's Diminutive Shank, Corbett.
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