JFK Assassination Forum

Of course, then we have the minor problems of where the bullet from the throat wound went, where the bullet from the back wound went, and the "rather" unusually close alignment of the back and throat wounds - so close that one bullet causing both wounds is by far the accepted theory. Hence Cliff Varnell's reliance on melting CIA-issued ice bullets, which frankly strikes most people as "just a bit" unlikely. Even a dud back wound that only penetrated an inch with a melting CIA ice bullet from the front seems "rather" unlikely - and what the hell would be the point of using a melting ice bullet from the front if it wasn't going to disguise a frontal shot anyway? I believe there are legitimate issues with the SBT, but to still try to be arguing that the throat would is an entrance is far-lunatic-fringe stuff.

Is it just me, or does MTG seem to be in near-desperation mode, flooding the forum with his nonsense? He is the very antithesis of my point that CTers who wish to be taken seriously should focus on plausibility, in terms of both evidence and theory, instead of shoveling loads of far-fetched and internally inconsistent poop and hoping some of it sticks. For all of his relentless self-promotion over umpteen years, MTG seems to have scarcely made a dent in the JFKA community; he strikes me as the proverbial legend in his own mind.The

So, both men are shot, then wait 1.5 seconds before they both undergo radically extreme, and intensely quick reactions.
Trying not to be disrespectful Zeon, but where are you getting the notion from that it would take such an amazingly long time before BOTH men start reacting?
It takes JFK's left arm ONE THIRD OF A SECOND to go from resting at his side to extended upwards. It is an insanely quick reaction. Why would he wait almost FIVE TIMES that length of time before reacting?
JFK's reaction shows clear signs of a neuromuscular effect, we are talking small fractions of a second for these kinds of reflexive reactions. One and a half seconds in this context is an eternity.

It might  to be a 1.5 sec delayed response to having been hit in the thigh by the Z190 bullet.
It’s the same with JFK. He’s reacting 1.5 secs after being struck by the Z190 bullet.

So the 2 simultaneous movements of both men are 1.5 sec delayed reactions to the Z190
1st shot bullet.

That’s my 2 cents alternative explanation  for the painful expression because I’m not convinced either that the expression on JC’s face is merely fear / concern or whatever. It’s looks like a painful expression to me.

The Z224 SBT scenario is a bullet going thru JFKs back and throat and thru JC’s chest and thru his right hand and into his thigh. A nice all in one kind of solution that only requires JC to be sitting in a really weird uncomfortable position with his buttocks half way off the jump seat while he holds  his hat upside down over the outside of his left leg. And the bullet is supposed to be CE 399 that’s only slightly deformed and the nose remained perfectly undamaged.

So revisiting the A.Mason Z190 1st shot theory once more is not really any more crazy than  the standard SBT

Therefore, at Z224 , Could JC’s expression be a 1.5 second delayed response to
only a thigh wound from the Z190 bullet?

Of course, then we have the minor problems of where the bullet from the throat wound went, where the bullet from the back wound went, and the "rather" unusually close alignment of the back and throat wounds - so close that one bullet causing both wounds is by far the accepted theory. Hence Cliff Varnell's reliance on melting CIA-issued ice bullets, which frankly strikes most people as "just a bit" unlikely. Even a dud back wound that only penetrated an inch with a melting CIA ice bullet from the front seems "rather" unlikely - and what the hell would be the point of using a melting ice bullet from the front if it wasn't going to disguise a frontal shot anyway? I believe there are legitimate issues with the SBT, but to still try to be arguing that the throat would is an entrance is far-lunatic-fringe stuff.

Is it just me, or does MTG seem to be in near-desperation mode, flooding the forum with his nonsense? He is the very antithesis of my point that CTers who wish to be taken seriously should focus on plausibility, in terms of both evidence and theory, instead of shoveling loads of far-fetched and internally inconsistent poop and hoping some of it sticks. For all of his relentless self-promotion over umpteen years, MTG seems to have scarcely made a dent in the JFKA community; he strikes me as the proverbial legend in his own mind.