JFK Assassination Forum

The distances being travelled were not very far, you make out like they were trying to climb Everest!

By taking the following path from Haywood's bike to the first time he's seen in Darnell, is at the most about 60-70 yards.



And the distance for Walthers to basically walk down and cross the road was about the same. If the time stamp was less than 12:37 then we might have trouble but every established event happened in chronological order and with enough time between to account for travelling!



Mr. WALTHERS. And at that time I heard the shots as well as everybody else, but as we got over this fence, and a lot of officers and people were just rummaging through the train yards back in this parking area.
Mr. LIEBELER. In the parking area down there? West of the Texas School Book Depository Building between the Texas School Book Depository and the railroad tracks?
Mr. WALTHERS. Yes; and the discussion came up among several of the officers, "Were there any shots fired?" And I said, "Well, they sounded like rifle shots to me." At the time no one knew---in our crowd they were sure the shots had been fired though because of the reports---we heard the noise, and I left then and went back up here and came back onto the street.
Mr. LIEBELER. Up on Elm Street?
Mr. WALTHERS. And went over on this grassy area right in here [indicating].
Mr. LIEBELER. Between Elm Street and Main Street?
Mr. WALTHERS. Between Elm and Main and starting to looking at the grass to see if some shots had been fired and some of them might have chugged into this turf here and it would give an indication if some had really been, if they were really shots and not just blanks or something, and a man, and I couldn't tell you his name if my life depended on it---he had a car parked right here in Main Street---in the Main Street lane headed east, just under this underpass.

And as seen everyone was walking with some pace, it wasn't a Mother's meeting, they all were trying to find something, anything! But alas there was nothing to be found because all the action happened on the 6th floor of the TSBD and this is supported by ALL the evidence from the ballistic evidence through to the medical evidence.



JohnM

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Verily, there was a lack up of investigative follow-up on many credible witnesses who described the last two shots as nearly "simultaneous," such Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman, or Secret Service agent Kellerman, and several others.

Same, why did no one ever ask Gov JBC, "What do you mean, you were shot at by 'automatic' weapons? That is entirely inconsistent with what we theorize what happened, that a lone gunsel with a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle perped the JFKA."

I suspect JBC meant that the assassin(s) were armed with an automatic rifle, but toggled to one shot per trigger squeeze mode. But no one at either the WC or HSCA clarified that. By all accounts, JBC was a smart guy, head screwed on tight. Seems odd JBC would use the expression "automatic" rifle. Connally served in WWII on the flight deck of aircraft carriers, so I assume he had some sort of working knowledge of firearms. JBC is reported to have been an avid sport game hunter as well.

It requires a large suspension of disbelief to accept the LNT-SBT with a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle narrative.

Yes, almost every aspect of the JFKA seems to have come from the pen of some crazed whodunnit author who was cackling "They'll NEVER figure this out!" Literally nothing is neat and clean. It just isn't.

A classic disinformation strategy; keep them guessing.....

But why? When this is a cut and dried killing?

Yes, almost every aspect of the JFKA seems to have come from the pen of some crazed whodunnit author who was cackling "They'll NEVER figure this out!" Literally nothing is neat and clean. It just isn't.

Up to the Tippit killing, everything has gone unbelievably smoothly for Oswald. He survives the Baker encounter - near miracle. He exits the TSBD and walks away - near miracle. He gets to Beckley without incident and pockets his revolver - perfect. AND THEN HE STARTS WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK in full view of the world (perhaps even pausing to pee into the bushes!) - WHY? And then he encounters Tippit in full view of umpteen witnesses and PROCEEDS TO BLOW HIM AWAY, including a close-up kill shot to the head, thereby destroying in an instant any hope of a clean escape - WHY? Why did Oswald the previously cool cucumber morph so quickly into Oswald the crazed murderer? And, then, for whatever they are worth, we have the accounts of Tippit's morning activities that suggest he was up to "something" before the Oswald encounter. Anyone is certainly entitled to conclude "I'm 100% confident the LN narrative is fundamentally correct" - but the mysteries don't just go away. Hence my sleep-inducing exercise of trying to picture exactly, in detail, what the key players were doing and why.

"OK, Oswald sneaks into the Paine garage before 9 AM and wraps the rifle ... Ruth finds the light on at 9 ... Oswald goes back into the garage at 4 AM ... no, wait, that won't work because ..."