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Nobody cares about a child, unless desperation is the goal.
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Rosemary Willis' head turn away from Jackie and JFK and towards the TSBD in Z-141 is telling.

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You misquote Bennett but everyone else is wrong.

Your sentence makes no sense.

Regardless, Glen "Immediately" Bennett wrote on 11/22/63,       
         
"I heard a noise that immediately reminded me of a firecracker. Immediately, upon hearing the supposed firecracker, looked at the Boss's car. At this exact time I saw a shot that hit the Boss about 4 inches down from the right shoulder; a second shot followed immediately and hit the right rear high of the Boss's head."

He should have said, "About 5 seconds after I heard this supposed firecracker, I looked at the Boss's car. It was then that I saw a shot that hit the Boss about 4 inches down from the right shoulder; a second shot followed about 5 seconds later and hit what looked like the right-rear high part of the Boss's head."

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JBC does not support an early missed shot.

Yes, he does.

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You already stated you have no idea when the early missed shot took place. How is any of your posts on the assassination shots subject even relevant to any the shots.

Is English your second language?
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Dan Rather is, was, and always will be a damn liar. The WC never conclude Oswald fired all three shots in under 6 seconds. Posner embraced the same lie in his effort to make it seem that he was setting the record straight. The WC always allowed for the possibility that Oswald took more than 6 seconds to fire his three shots. They found that Oswald fired 3 shots missing JFK with one of those shots but never came to a conclusion as to which of the 3 shots was the miss. The determined that there was no more than 5.6 seconds between the 2 shots that hit JFK and it's only the second shot miss scenario that would require Oswald to fire all 3 shots in 5.6 seconds or less. The reality is there were about 4.9 seconds between the two hits and the missed shot came before those 2 shots. We are able to determine that due to decades of time, millions of eyeballs viewing the Z-film, and technology that wasn't available to the WC.

It will forever be a black mark on Walter Cronkite, Dan Rather, and the entire CBS News organization for having propagated this lie for all these years. Either it was a deliberate lie or extremely sloppy journalism that led them to this conclusion. All they would have had to do to know this wasn't true would be to read the conclusion summary at the end of the chapter that dealt with the 3 shots.

    Your clan would be wise to take it easy on Rather. You tick him off and he will again tell the World what he saw on the Z Film Copy he viewed the weekend of the assassination.
    Rather carries a "Get Outta Jail Free" card. He can Say and Do whatever he wants. Get whatever he wants too. Like Cronkite's chair. Posner? He's Arnold Horshack trying to get attention by glomming onto Dan Rather. Just like Max Holland did with National Geographic. These are Not stand alone individuals nor are the theories they ballyhoo. They are distributing pure "Pulp Fiction".
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hey, Brian…… I’m a-gonna ask the big AI in the sky guy to gather all of your posts, including deep politics forum may it rest in peace, to see what it might come up with
Vis à vis your theories on stuff.  you’re welcome. I’ll post the results, might take a while, but patience builds character, oui?
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There is ample evidence of three shots and we have the testimony of JBC and his observed reaction in the Z-film as well as Rosemary Willis' observed reaction that the first shot was the one that missed. We have the testimony of the three TSBD employees who were right below Oswald when he fired the shots describing 3 shots. We have Agent Glenn Bennett's report that he heard a shot, then turned to JFK and SAW the next two shots hit him. You can deny that until the cows come home but that won't change the reality.

Nobody cares about a child, unless desperation is the goal.

You misquote Bennett but everyone else is wrong.

JBC does not support an early missed shot.

You already stated you have no idea when the early missed shot took place. How is any of your posts on the assassination shots subject even relevant to any the shots.
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      Did that alleged "Oswald family" that showed up at a Texas radio station sing into a can? I think you are confusing the flick, "Oh Brother Where Art Thou?", with the JFK Assassination. A couple aspirin and a nap might help.

“two different people” ??  so John Armstrong was right all along, huh? who knew?
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It is also possible we are both wrong.

Not only is it possible but you, Graves, Meyers, and Holland are wrong.

The whole early missed shot idea is as pathetic as it gets. To start you have to believe the witnesses are all wrong except some weird interpretation of JBC's statements. Not even Nellie, the three witnesses under the SN, all the witnesses along Elm Street, or the Secret Service can be believed. Nobody knows anything but the four clowns, Corbett, Graves, Holland, and Meyers, who seem to want climb into the Early Missed Shot Clown Car, drive around and proclaim damn the evidence we know we are right.

There is ample evidence of three shots and we have the testimony of JBC and his observed reaction in the Z-film as well as Rosemary Willis' observed reaction that the first shot was the one that missed. We have the testimony of the three TSBD employees who were right below Oswald when he fired the shots describing 3 shots. We have Agent Glenn Bennett's report that he heard a shot, then turned to JFK and SAW the next two shots hit him. You can deny that until the cows come home but that won't change the reality.
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Both Holmes and Lovelady spoke of a cop who stopped Oswald at the front door...

Neither if them witnessed that. They were repeating hearsay,
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There was a conspicuous effort to avoid investigating how Oswald left the Depository...

They knew Oswald left the front of the building end headed east on Elm St. where he boarded a bus. Do you think chasing down rumors based on hearsay would change that fact? [quote
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You are avoiding giving an honest answer to the fact that the reason that cop was never identified and interviewed was because they were avoiding having to answer how and why Oswald left the Depository if a cop told him to step aside and wait...
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If? There was zero evidence a cop stopped him outside the TSBD. Do you think rumors constitute evidence?

Why do you treat rumors as if they are compelling evidence?
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We will have to agree to disagree on this point. I calculate there was about 4 seconds between the first two shots. Neither you nor I have proof positive for when that first shot was fired so it is possible either you or I could be wrong. It is also possible we are both wrong. Maybe Max Holland is right and the first shot was fired before either of us has calculated. Maybe Dale Meyers is right and it was fired after either of us has calculated. Unless someone discovers something that has yet gone undetected, it will always come down to how we weigh the various clues as to when that first shot was fired. One thing we can agree on. Andrew Mason is way off base in his analysis.

It is also possible we are both wrong.

Not only is it possible but you, Graves, Meyers, and Holland are wrong.

The whole early missed shot idea is as pathetic as it gets. To start you have to believe the witnesses are all wrong except some weird interpretation of JBC's statements. Not even Nellie, the three witnesses under the SN, all the witnesses along Elm Street, or the Secret Service can be believed. Nobody knows anything but the four clowns, Corbett, Graves, Holland, and Meyers, who seem to want climb into the Early Missed Shot Clown Car, drive around and proclaim damn the evidence we know we are right.
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Regardless, why does Andrew Mason say Connally was hit in Z-273 (when he was turned 180 degrees from "looking a little to the left of center")?

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z273.jpg

Answer: Connally and Mason are both grossly wrong.

Connally said there was "a very, very brief" interval between the first shot and the shot that hit him.

In reality, it was about five-and-a-half seconds long.

We will have to agree to disagree on this point. I calculate there was about 4 seconds between the first two shots. Neither you nor I have proof positive for when that first shot was fired so it is possible either you or I could be wrong. It is also possible we are both wrong. Maybe Max Holland is right and the first shot was fired before either of us has calculated. Maybe Dale Meyers is right and it was fired after either of us has calculated. Unless someone discovers something that has yet gone undetected, it will always come down to how we weigh the various clues as to when that first shot was fired. One thing we can agree on. Andrew Mason is way off base in his analysis.
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Dan Rather is, was, and always will be a damn liar. The WC never conclude Oswald fired all three shots in under 6 seconds. Posner embraced the same lie in his effort to make it seem that he was setting the record straight. The WC always allowed for the possibility that Oswald took more than 6 seconds to fire his three shots. They found that Oswald fired 3 shots missing JFK with one of those shots but never came to a conclusion as to which of the 3 shots was the miss. The determined that there was no more than 5.6 seconds between the 2 shots that hit JFK and it's only the second shot miss scenario that would require Oswald to fire all 3 shots in 5.6 seconds or less. The reality is there were about 4.9 seconds between the two hits and the missed shot came before those 2 shots. We are able to determine that due to decades of time, millions of eyeballs viewing the Z-film, and technology that wasn't available to the WC.

It will forever be a black mark on Walter Cronkite, Dan Rather, and the entire CBS News organization for having propagated this lie for all these years. Either it was a deliberate lie or extremely sloppy journalism that led them to this conclusion. All they would have had to do to know this wasn't true would be to read the conclusion summary at the end of the chapter that dealt with the 3 shots.
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