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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Education Forum Goes Off the Rails
« Last post by John Corbett on September 03, 2026, 07:51:06 PM »

Schnapf is on The Education Forum saying Garrison deliberately ignored Marcello...

Marcello did not have the power to corrupt all the government agencies that stymied Garrison...

Shaw was more a CIA man than mob man...

None of the above had a thing to do with the JFKA.
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Bullseye! You got that right!

The JFKA is not the least bit complicated except to people who want it to be complicated.
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You never know if the person you're arguing with can't even do basic math, let alone analyse a topic as complicated as the JFK assassination.

Bullseye! You got that right!
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Royell Storing on September 03, 2026, 07:22:13 PM »
Here's the actual first frame from the Darnell film, taken from my lossless Youtube download and not a lazy Youtube screenshot



and NO the Bell Film does NOT SHOW WIEGMAN RUNNING, it shows a walking camera man at the bottom but not him running.
This is taken from a high quality 1080p version without the watermark.



   Thanks for posting the above Bell Film still frame.
    If you look at the frames leading up to this still frame and the frames following it, you will see that the upper body of Wiegman is getting closer to the ground at the end of these frames. Why? Because Wiegman is falling to the ground. If you think of Wiegman as being a Football Running Back, he mirrors a ball carrier falling Forward to the ground. Instead of firmly holding a Football to his chest, Wiegman is instead holding his camera to his chest.
   Wiegman filmed the Newman Family at the bottom of the Knoll. The Newman Family were on the ground (W) of the Street Light Post. (To the (L) of the Street Light Post). In order for Wiegman to be standing next to the Newman Family and film them, he had to of moved (W) from where we see him on the above Bell still frame. This is what Wiegman was beginning to do when he stumbled and fell to the ground. He had to of gotten UP, and then continued moving (W) across the Knoll, in order to then go Down the knoll and end up standing next to the Newman Family. The Couch Film shows Wiegman moving almost STRAIGHT DOWN the Knoll. Wiegman had to of moved (W) from where we see him on this Bell still frame in order to arrive at the bottom of the Knoll and then be standing next to the Newman Family.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Education Forum Goes Off the Rails
« Last post by Brian Doyle on September 03, 2026, 07:15:54 PM »


Iler has total control because of the format of the British Invision host that gives total power and say to the "owner"...


While they said this reformation was designed to remedy the previous negatives of the forum it has actually worsened them and hardened the clique...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Matt Brooks on September 03, 2026, 06:57:15 PM »
Here's the actual first frame from the Darnell film, taken from my lossless Youtube download and not a lazy Youtube screenshot



and NO the Bell Film does NOT SHOW WIEGMAN RUNNING, it shows a walking camera man at the bottom but not him running.
This is taken from a high quality 1080p version without the watermark.

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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on September 03, 2026, 06:32:50 PM »
McCain was toast when he turned on Bill Cunningham at that rally. Limbaugh and the rest of talk radio bailed, and it was over with a thud.

I voted for Barack Obama in 2008 for one and only one reason. He was not John McCain. A year earlier when Hillary was the presumptive nominee and it was less than certain that McCain would be the GOP choice, I told my friends that if McCain were nominated, I would vote for Hillary. Voting for Obama was a little less than distasteful than voting for Hillary would have been. I went so far as to say I would vote for Osama Bin Laden before I would vote for John McCain.

Why did i despise McCain so much. The McCain-Feingold Act was the most dastardly, undemocratic piece of legislation that had passed the US  Congress since John Adams' Alien and Sedition Acts. It gave the federal government the power to restrict political dissent. While the Supreme Court has struck down some of the provisions of McCain-Feingold, mainly through Citizens United, there's still some provisions that remain in force.

PS I also didn't vote for George W. Bush in 2004 because that SOB signed McCain-Feingold into law, even though he thought many provisions were unconstitutional. He left it up to the Supreme Court to strike it down. He took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. He didn't do that when he passed the buck to the Supreme Court.

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Royell Storing on September 03, 2026, 06:20:59 PM »
This is soooo painful...
Previously you posted this - The Bell Film shows Wiegman running across the stairs/directly toward Zapruder.
Do you stand by this claim, that in the Bell film we can see Weigman running across the stairs toward Zapruder? Or is this something that you've made up?
Is it something you are imagining but isn't shown in the Bell film.

I'll make this easy - At any point in the Bell film do we see Weigman running?

Do you know what...just forget it...the Bell film does not show Weigman running towards Zapruder, it never did. You just made it up. Weigman stays in exactly the same spot until the film cuts and he is down by the Newmans. Why you would claim the Bell film shows him running is a complete mystery to me. I literally have no idea why you would make such a claim. But now you are trying to backtrack on it...kind of...maybe.

Your story about Weigman standing up while he filmed the Hesters and then fell over is just a fantasy you have invented. There is not a single scrap of evidence to support this made up scenario. I have no idea why you have invented this scenario. I just don't get it. I honestly don't understand why you can't just accept the obvious - the Weigman footage of the Hesters shows us it was filmed at floor level, the Bell footage shows us Weigman filming the Hesters at floor level.
Why isn't the obvious interpretation of the evidence acceptable?
Why invent pointless details?
The steps are only a few inches high...if Weigman was stood up filming the footage would be from a stood up position. But it clearly isn't......................

.....it doesn't matter.

                                                       ............. Since the above does Not matter to you ..................

           Are you using the YOU TUBE "Uncropped" Bothun Photo to help with your time stamping? I find the position of Altgens coming down the knoll toward Elm St and Wiegman having finished filming the Newman Family and now being physically down on the sidewalk filming Officer Haygood, to be important factors with respect to determining the Tick/Tock. Same goes for the Chism Family now being in position to begin their run across the Knoll. Trask "Pictures Of The Pain" gives this Bothun Photo a roughly "30 Seconds" after the kill shot time stamp. 
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by John Corbett on September 03, 2026, 06:06:37 PM »
i don't even know where to start regarding Dan O''Meara's latest post in this thread. I can't even follow his reasoning or see any evidence he applied any reasoning at all. It's one of the dumbest post I've read on this forum. It shows no logic or common sense. I don't see how anything Givens had to say, whether true or false, does anything to either strengthen or weaken the case against Oswald. What the hell difference does it make whether or not Givens saw Oswald on the 6th floor 35 minutes before the shooting? Can anybody explain this nonsense to me?

Maybe I'm the idiot for responding to it in the first place.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Dan O'meara on September 03, 2026, 05:56:53 PM »
  (1) I believe that Wiegman is generally running (W) towards Zapruder. You do see Zapruder and Wiegman both in the same Bell frames?
  (2) I have always known that this is Wiegman on the Bell Film. His Hat is a dead giveaway.
  (3) I believe that Wiegman's position while filming the Hester's was just to the (E) of where we see him falling to the ground on the Bell still frame you posted. I believe while standing, Wiegman filmed the Hesters, then turned to his (L), and then started to move (W) across the Knoll. Wiegman immediately stumbled and fell or maybe dove to the ground.

This is soooo painful...
Previously you posted this - The Bell Film shows Wiegman running across the stairs/directly toward Zapruder.
Do you stand by this claim, that in the Bell film we can see Weigman running across the stairs toward Zapruder? Or is this something that you've made up?
Is it something you are imagining but isn't shown in the Bell film.

I'll make this easy - At any point in the Bell film do we see Weigman running?

Do you know what...just forget it...the Bell film does not show Weigman running towards Zapruder, it never did. You just made it up. Weigman stays in exactly the same spot until the film cuts and he is down by the Newmans. Why you would claim the Bell film shows him running is a complete mystery to me. I literally have no idea why you would make such a claim. But now you are trying to backtrack on it...kind of...maybe.

Your story about Weigman standing up while he filmed the Hesters and then fell over is just a fantasy you have invented. There is not a single scrap of evidence to support this made up scenario. I have no idea why you have invented this scenario. I just don't get it. I honestly don't understand why you can't just accept the obvious - the Weigman footage of the Hesters shows us it was filmed at floor level, the Bell footage shows us Weigman filming the Hesters at floor level.
Why isn't the obvious interpretation of the evidence acceptable?
Why invent pointless details?
The steps are only a few inches high...if Weigman was stood up filming the footage would be from a stood up position. But it clearly isn't......................

.....it doesn't matter.
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