JFK Assassination Forum

TG-

If Victor Marchetti is right, that the CIA was so riddled with KGB assets that it was a swirl...then who knows?

Maybe Solie did not want anyone sniffing around LHO's connections, which would lead back to Solie, and possibly KGB G2.

Some G2 assets contacted LHO in New Orleans, and then LHO meets wet-works-meister Kostikov in MC, and then LHO comes back to Dallas and assassinates the president?

1) Maybe Maybe Maybe Maybe Maybe Maybe Maybe Maybe Solie simply didn't want to draw attention to himself by implicating the CIA in the assassination of JFK. Maybe Shaw wasn't the evil, evil, evil CIA mastermind, after all, and maybe Solie worked his tail off researching innocent Shaw just to impress the other folks in the Agency.

2) It was never proved that Kosikov was Department 13. The only people who suggested that he was Department 13 before Oswald allegedly went to Mexico City was a Kremlin-loyal triple agent at the FBI's NYC field office by the name of KGB Major Aleksei Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA) and a sketchy former recon pilot for Hitler / British P.O.W. / "former" KGB agent / recruited-by-CIA German national crop duster from Snyder, Oklahoma, by the name of Guenter Heinz Schulz, aka AEBURBLE of TUMBLEWEED fame.

3) Haven't I already mentioned that about twelve times? Oh . . .  maybe it wasn't here . . .  maybe it was at Substack among my 450 or so free-to-read articles on the page titled "How the KGB Zombified the CIA and the FBI."

Here's my most recent one!:

It's Probably Just a Coincidence

It’s probably just a coincidence, but it’s interesting to note that Priscilla Johnson, one of the journalists who interviewed Lee Harvey Oswald at his Moscow hotel in November 1959, had been a CIA agent / journalist three years earlier, and according to a three-page list of the dates of the CIA’s interactions with her that was written down by HSCA Staff Counsel Robert Genzman, after she had finished her first gig in Moscow and left the country in April 1956, she met with a CIA officer by the name of Alexander “Sasha” Sogolow.

What’s interesting is that Army Major Sogolow was a KGB mole, and both he and his charge in Frankfurt, Alexander “Sasha” Kopatzky (aka Igor Orlov), are suspected of being Anatoliy Golitsyn’s mole, “Sasha.”

Orlov retired from the CIA before Golitsyn defected to the US in mid-December 1961.

When Golitsyn was being exfiltrated from Helsinki to the US, CIA headquarters got word from one of his escorts that Golitsyn believed there was a mole in Germany. When Orlov heard about this, he sent a letter to headquarters advising it that his former boss, Sogolow, was a KGB mole.

Most students of Cold War espionage believe Orlov was Golitsyn’s “Sasha.”

Sogolow eventually confessed to being a mole, himself, and was “played back” against the KGB and not prosecuted.

. . . . . . .

The following is what Genzman wrote about Sogolow in 1978:

”Sogolow — Chief of SR/10 [the Soviet Russia Division’s “Legal Travelers” section] from 1954 to May 1959. From 1954 to 1967, he did SR/10 work from [deleted].”

. . . . . . .

In his 1995/2008 book, Oswald and the CIA, John M. Newman tells us that Johnson had an on-again, off-again relationship with the Agency, and that the Office of Security (where Bruce Leonard Solie, a probable KGB mole, was the CIA’s primary mole hunter) evidently created a Johnson “double” on paper who was eight years younger than the original.

. . . . . . .

Oswald, who had been a Marine radar operator at a U-2 base in Japan, allegedly told Counsel Richard Snyder (and the KGB microphones imbedded in the walls) on 30 October 1959 that he planned to tell the Soviets everything he knew about Marine Corps radar and “something of special interest.”

A few days later, Johnson interviewed Oswald.

. . . . . . .

The following is part of Johnson’s 1964 testimony to the Warren Commission:

Mr. Slawson: Miss Johnson, I wonder if you would search your memory with the help of your notes and make any comments you could on what contacts Lee Oswald had had with Soviet officials before you saw him, any remarks he made or things you could read between the lines, and so on.

Miss Johnson: I had the impression, in fact he said, he hoped his experience as a radar operator would make him more desirable to them [the Soviets]. That was the only thing that really showed any lack of integrity in a way about him, a negative thing. That is, he thought he had something he could give them, something that would hurt his country in a way, or could, and that was the one thing that was quite negative, that he was holding out some kind of bait.

Mr. Slawson: Could you elaborate a little on that radar point. Had you been informed by the American Embassy at the time that he had told Richard Snyder that he had already volunteered to the Soviet officials that he had been a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and would give the Russian government any secrets he had possessed?

Miss Johnson: I had no idea that he had told Snyder that, but he did tell me -- I got the impression, I am not sure that it is in the notes or not, I certainly got the impression that he was using his radar training as a come-on to them, hoped that that would make him of some value to them.

. . . . . . .

As Newman points out in so many words, it boggles the mind that Johnson didn’t mention Oswald’s intimation of committing espionage against the US in the newspaper article she wrote about the interview.

It’s also boggles the mind to know that the CIA’s copy of Snyder’s cable to The State Department did mention Oswald’s threat to commit espionage, but never made it to the Agency’s Soviet Russia Division or to James Angleton’s Counterintelligence Staff, because arrangements were made in advance with the Office of Mail Logistics and the Records Integration Division to have all incoming non-CIA cables on Oswald’s upcoming defection routed to the Office of Security’s Security Research Staff (where Solie was Deputy Chief) where they disappeared into a “black hole” for at least six months. (FWIW, Solie was also Chief of the SRS’s Research Branch, and was, therefore, the Agency’s primary mole hunter.)

Readers will recall that author John M. Newman believes Solie sent Oswald to Moscow as an ostensible “dangle” in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for “Popov’s U-2 Mole” (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA — the Soviet Russia Division — which mole hunt lasted nine years, protected Solie from being uncovered, tore the Soviet Russia Division apart and drove Angleton nuts.

The only problem I have with Newman’s theory is that I doubt that Solie would have taken seventeen months to send Oswald to Moscow in response to (probable mole) George Kisevalter’s notifying headquarters in April 1958 that CIA’s spy, GRU Lt. Col. Pyotr Popov, had told him in Berlin that on New Year’s Eve he’d heard a drunken GRU Colonel say that the Kremlin had all of the specifications of the U-2 spy plane.

In other words, was it really necessary for Oswald to learn Russian before walking into the American Embassy, renounce his citizenship and tell Counsel Richard Snyder (and the KGB microphones) in English that he planned to commit espionage against the U.S.?


In case you’re wondering, I have no idea what any of this means.

I just thought you might like to ponder the possibilities along with me.

TG-

My understanding is Blunt actually reads primary docs. It would be interesting to ask Blunt to justify his comment, in a friendly way.

I'm not in communication with him.

AI tells me in so many words that Solie found nothing wrong about Clay Shaw.

I suppose if he had, we would have heard about it the trial, right?

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Williams' labeling the windows he ate lunch near as "W3" and "W4" on the floor plan was grossly inaccurate?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=227&search=sixth

-- Tom

  Oh brother...doing your research for you is a drag.
It isn't Williams who labels the windows, it's Ball.
Bonnie Ray refers to 'sets' of windows:

Mr. WILLIAMS. I ate my lunch-1 am not sure about this, but the third or the  fourth set of windows, I believe.

NOT the third or fourth window...the third or fourth set of windows.
Bonnie Ray is saying that he sat in the third or fourth aisle over from Houston Street, as each aisle ends in a set of windows.
Each set of windows comprises of two windows but Ball, one of your heroes, mistakenly starts referring to each set of double windows as a single window, so you blindly follow his lead. That's why he labels each set of windows "W3" etc.

Luckily, because I do actual research, I'm aware of Studebaker's testimony in which he informs us, in detail, where the two wheeler is situated. It is at the end of the third aisle along from the Houston Street side of the building. It is in front of the third set of windows.

It doesn't matter though.
It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented showing how wrong you are.
You have demonstrated that you are just one of those guys whose mind is made up and no amount of evidence is going to change that.
Your incredibly weak attempt at explaining how Bonnie Ray's lunch remains were initially discovered ON TOP OF THE SNIPER'S NEST has failed. You will just make some other nonsense up or stick to your original nonsense, no matter what.
The one thing you will not do is consider the importance of this, seemingly innocuous, piece of evidence.

Just for laughs, here's what Studebaker has to say:

"I believe that's in the third aisle and let's see what it is marked - it's the sixth floor of 411 Elm Street looking south and the third aisle from Houston Street on the south side of the building. That was taken looking directly into that - this is the sack with those chicken bones and all that mess was in there too."

Mr. BALL. That's the third row over?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. That's the third aisle from Houston Street.
Mr. BALL. That would be the third set of windows?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. That would be the third set of windows - it would be - one, two, three.
Mr. BALL. The third set of windows from Houston Street - you mark it.
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes

Do some research.

TG-

That is what I am asking.

What did Bruce Solie do in relation to Clay Shaw and Jim Garrison?

1. Was Solie feeding Garrison bad dope that Shaw was involved?

2. Was Solie making sure that KGB-G-S connections to LHO never surfaced in the Garrison investigation?

Shaw was a CIA asset.

Is Blunt exaggerating?

I don't think Blunt exaggerates.

He's gullible regarding the JFKA, imho, but he doesn't exaggerate.

This is the subject Gary kicked Max's you-know-what on.

(In his dreams)

https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/static/Lie-That-Linked-CIA.pdf