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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Questions for Andrew Mason
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 06:06:55 AM »
you must have had your ‘agentic AI’ help you compile this list, sir graves g.  it smells so……… intelligent.

Dear e e cummings,

You're afraid to answer them, too, aren't you.

"Agentic AI"?

Is that something you jam up your you-know-what on a regular basis?

-- Tom
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I guess mason missed these questions.

Here they are, again.
you must have had your ‘agentic AI’ help you compile this list, sir graves g.  it smells so……… intelligent, uh……. hey how old are you again?  recall how wild bill Donovan may he rest in peace met his end with hardening of the arteries in the noggin there?
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No. It is not mentioned in the autopsy report nor in the Warren Report. It was first mentioned publicly in 1979 by the medical panel of the HSCA.  It is at best a non-displaced fracture if it is a fracture. [Emphasis added by T. Graves]

"The [HSCA] panel agrees that the tissue disruption due to the temporary cavity created by passage of a high or intermediate velocity missile might have produced fractures of the transverse processes of one or several of the lower cervical and/or upper thoracic vertebrae in President Kennedy's neck as indicated by the postmortem X-rays There are significant muscle masses attached to the vertebrae which would receive tremendous shock even if several inches distant from such a missile. A direct grazing missile impact may have occurred, but it would not have been necessary to cause the damage visible in the X-rays."

. . . . . .

Excerpts from a memo to Mark Flanagan, U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations Staff Member, from David 0. Davis, MD, Professor and Chairman Department of Radiology, The George Washington University Hospital, Washington, DC:

"Evaluation of the pre-autopsy film shows that there is some subcutaneous or interstitial air overlying the right C7and T1 transverse processes There is disruption of the integrity of the transverse process of T1 which in comparison with its mate on the opposite side and also with the previously taken film mentioned above indicates that there has been a fracture in that area."

[…]

"There is evidence of interstitial air on the pre-autopsy film and evidence of a right T1 transverse process fracture both on the pre-autopsy and post-autopsy film."

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So which one is right. Which fictional early missed shot, a shot that there is no evidence of having taken place and not one single person even heard is the correct early missed shot. Can the Early Missed Shot Corbett- Graves Brain Trust hash it out and give some much-needed clarity to such a profound theory? It would help with understanding how you two could possibly criticize any other theory.

Dear Jack "Ignoramus" Nessan,

How do you know JFK didn't hear Oswald's first, missing-everything, "Z-124" shot, and that's why he quickly started turning his head to his left in Z-144, only to start turning it back to his right by Z-160 and start waving to Mary Wooward and her three colleagues in Z-175?

How do you know that Jackie didn't hear Oswald's first, missing-everything, "Z-124" shot, and that's why she started turning her head farther to her left in Z-144 and then far back to her right starting in Z-170?

How do you know that John Connally didn't hear Oswald's first, missing-everything, "Z-124" shot, and that's why he consciously and quickly turned his head to his left starting in Z-150 and then quickly turned it back far to his right, starting in Z-164, to try to catch a glimpse of JFK over his right shoulder from Z-175 through Z-190?

How do you know that Nellie Connally didn't hear Oswald's first, missing-everything, "Z-124" shot, and that's why she began a quick sweeping head
turn to her right in Z-145?

How do you know Roy Kellerman didn't hear Oswald's first, missing-everything, "Z-124" shot, and that's why he began leaning over and looking
behind/down to his right in Z-143?

How do you know Jack Ready didn't hear Oswald's first, missing-everything, "Z-124" shot, and that's why he started leaning to his right and turning his head around in Z-145?

How do you know Glen Bennett didn't hear Oswald's first, missing-everything, "Z-124" shot, and that's why he started leaning over to his far right to seee around Dave powers by Z-160?

How do you know George Hickey didn't hear Oswald's first, missing-everything, "Z-124" shot, and that's why he began leaning over and looking down in the direction of the rear tire or pavement in Z-144?

How do you know Rosemary Willis didn't hear Oswald's first, missing-everything, "Z-124" shot, and that's why she began a quick look away from
the Presidential limo and back towards the TSBD in Z-140?

-- Tom
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Did the autopsy reveal that JFK's transvers process had been damaged during the assassination?

No. It is not mentioned in the autopsy report nor in the Warren Report.  It was first mentioned publicly in 1979 by the medical panel of the HSCA.  It is at best a non-displaced fracture if it is a fracture.


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Do you think JFK "clutched his neck"?

If so, do you think he did it because a bullet had penetrated it from the front or side?
I base conclusions of fact on evidence. The evidence is clear that the bullet passed through from back to front.
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So which one is right. Which fictional early missed shot, a shot that there is no evidence of having taken place and not one single person even heard is the correct early missed shot. Can the Early Missed Shot Corbett- Graves Brain Trust hash it out and give some much-needed clarity to such a profound theory? It would help with understanding how you two could possibly criticize any other theory.



Both Connally and Jack Ready turn to their right after hearing the first shot fired at Z-157
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So which one is right. Which fictional early missed shot, a shot that there is no evidence of having taken place and not one single person even heard is the correct early missed shot. Can the Early Missed Shot Corbett- Graves Brain Trust hash it out and give some much-needed clarity to such a profound theory? It would help with understanding how you two could possibly criticize any other theory.
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A 2000 fps bullet is supersonic in air but not in the body. The speed of sound in the body is about 5000 fps so it subsonic.  This means that there is no shock wave, just an acoustic wave propagating rapidly away from the bullet.

The notion that the bullet passing near the spine but not striking the spine would cause not only a neurological reaction but a specific neurological reaction that results after several days in a person whose spinal cord was severed was not advanced by any neurologist.  It was advanced by someone years later who has no qualifications as a neurologist: Dr. Lattimer, a urologist. Being two letters short doesn’t make one almost a neurologist.

Did the autopsy reveal that JFK's transvers process had been damaged during the assassination?

If so, do you think it happened when he fell onto Jackie?

Do you think JFK "clutched his neck"?

If so, do you think he did it because a bullet had penetrated it from the front or side?
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Didn't the bullet (or the shock wave caused by it) nick a transverse process in JFK's lower neck?
A 2000 fps bullet is supersonic in air but not in the body. The speed of sound in the body is about 5000 fps so it subsonic.  This means that there is no shock wave, just an acoustic wave propagating rapidly away from the bullet.  A shock wave carries much more energy than an acoustic wave. A shock wave has a sudden pressure jump, moves faster than sound, and carries a huge amount of energy that can destroy things.  An acoustic wave produces much lower pressure and energy.

The notion that the bullet passing near the spine would cause not only a neurological reaction but a specific neurological reaction that results after several days in a person whose spinal cord was severed was not advanced by any neurologist.  It was advanced by someone years later who has no qualifications as a neurologist: Dr. Lattimer, a urologist. Being two letters short doesn’t make one almost a neurologist.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Questions for Andrew Mason
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 03:44:36 AM »
Questions for Andrew Mason.

1) Did Oswald fire any shots?

2) If so, how many?

3) Who, if anyone, did he hit?

4) In which Zapruder frames did he hit them?

5) Where was the other shooter located?

6) Did he or she hit anyone?

7) If so, in which frame(s)?

8 ) If Oswald fired only one or two shots, who planted the extra shells in the Sniper's Nest?

9) Did Oswald fire CE-399?

10) If not, who fired it with his rifle, who planted it, and why and how did it get so strangely deformed?

11) Was Oswald "patsied"?

12) If so, how many bad guys do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the patsy-ing, the planting of evidence, the shooting, the planting of more evidence, the getting-away, the altering of films, photos, and x-rays, and the all-important (and ongoing) cover-up?

Just a few, or oodles and gobs?

I guess Mason missed these questions.

Here they are, again.
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