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I gather DuEugenio gives some credence to the LHO-Prayer Man baloney.


You must have missed the Luna Task Force hearing where DiEugenio got Oliver Stone to make a fool of himself and go before Congress and promote the Prayer Man theory and the need to obtain the Wiegman & Darnell films in order to show Oswald on the front steps during the assassination...Not only did DiEugenio put Oliver Stone's reputation on the line but he gambled the entire reputation of the research community and 60 years of conspiracy research - not to mention handing those who doubt the legitimacy of such research an easy means to ridicule them from now on once any skilled analyst shows that the person they are calling Oswald is actually Depository secretary Sarah Stanton...This is the same Jim DiEugenio who admitted to me that I had proven Prayer Man was too stocky to be Oswald going up before Congress and sending them on a wild Ralph Cinque-like goose chase and destroying the reputation of credible JFK research...Jim has an Achilles Heel of lack of abstract analysis skill that leads him in to dilemmas like this that he solves by leaning on the clique and getting them to censor his refuters...DiEugenio protects himself from answering for this by hiding out on websites like The Education Forum where corrupted moderators shield him from accountability...
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Is that what's causing George Hickey to lean over the other side of the car in Z-150?

I don't see him leaning so I need no explanation for it.
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Centripetal (or is it centrifugal?) force?

How may Gs do you figure they're pulling?

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z150.jpg


By the way, regarding your beloved "jiggle analysis" approach, the HSCA's scientific panel concluded that, based on its "blur analysis" of the Zapruder frames, JFK and Connally were struck by one bullet at approximately Z-190.

Who cares what the HSCA concluded. They were bozos.
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Do you agree with the panel's conclusion, timing wise?

Of course I don't. Why are you trying to stick me with their FUBAR conclusions.
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PS How about Z-153, Werner Von Braun?

Can you detect Bennett's lean, yet?

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z153.jpg

I can detect nothing about Bennett's position from that frame. The image is too small and blurry to decipher anything about his position. You can see what you want to see.
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Tucker Carlson, who has gone bananas in recent months, and has involuntary arm spasms and loses his bowels when he hears the words/acronym "CIA" or "Mossad," has upgraded Morley's dog-whistle into giving Israel the leading role in the JFKA. 

The CIA merely acquiesced.

Indeed, across the political left, the compulsive obsession now is not the CIA or "US military industrial complex" or white supremacy, but rather the nation across a big ocean, and with 8 million Jews, Israel.

However, historically, in general I assent to your view on the political left's monomania with US intel agencies and their possible role in the JFKA.

But, as of now, the CIA has been supplanted by Mossad, in the most-repeated JFKA narratives.

Which goes to show, the ideology writes the agenda, and the agenda writes the narrative.

The KGB (today's SVR and FSB) is a world-class humanitarian organization!!!

Just ask Kash Patel and The Traitorous Orange Turd!!!
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Tucker Carlson, who has gone bananas in recent months, and has involuntary arm spasms and loses his bowels when he hears the words/acronym "CIA" or "Mossad," has upgraded Morley's dog-whistle into giving Israel the leading role in the JFKA. 

The CIA merely acquiesced.

Indeed, across the political left, the compulsive obsession now is not the CIA or "US military industrial complex" or white supremacy, but rather the nation across a big ocean, and with 8 million Jews, Israel.

However, historically, in general I assent to your view on the political left's monomania with US intel agencies and their possible role in the JFKA.

But, as of now, the CIA has been supplanted by Mossad, in the most-repeated JFKA narratives.

Which goes to show, the ideology writes the agenda, and the agenda writes the narrative.

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When I say "pro-IRGC influencers are active in the JFKA research space"--are there any doubters?

Note how Morley's narrative on the JFKA has mutated from "the CIA did it," to his "Mossad did it with Angleton," dog-whistle on the Tucker Carlson show.

Wasn't Angleton CIA?

Who perped the CIAers?
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BD-

I agree with you, that some members of the JFKA research community seem compelled to give credence to every crackpot CT.

James DiEugenio repeated a tale told by Joan Mellen, that President LBJ ordered the sinking of the USS Liberty, in collusion with Israelis, as LBJ planned to blame the sinking on Egypt and then nuke Cairo. LBJ had four jets headed to Cairo, armed with atom-bombs, but called off the mission at the least second when the USS Liberty miraculously survived.

This makes me wonder if DiEugenio is a paid social influencer, or has no idea what is plausible and what is not.

I gather DuEugenio gives some credence to the LHO-Prayer Man baloney.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 02:32:12 AM »
You are using your conclusion that an early shot occurred to explain what you think is a subtle "startle reaction" of JFK and Jackie's very slight head turn farther to the left and then using those reactions to bolster your argument that there was an early missed shot.

We don't know how subtle or gross JFK's (or anyone else's) startle reaction was to Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot, half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 because . . . well . . . Zapruder wasn't filming at the time.

Typically, however, a startle reaction to an unexpected loud noise is a not-very-noticeable hunching of the shoulders.

It is therefore understandable that no one noticed JFK's "startle reaction" to that early shot.

Thank God that Mary Woodward noticed and wrote down JFK's quickly turning and Jackie's accelerated turning of their heads, consciously and in a quizzical manner, about a second after said "backfire-like" first shot.

It's a pity, though, that she conflated other things that happened before and after said shot with what happened before and after the second shot, as indicated by her reporting that the limo "nearly came to a halt" after the first shot.

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 01:14:05 AM »
Those 25 witnesses evidently mistook the "backfire-like" sound of Oswald's first shot at "Z-124" as a backfire, a firecracker, or maybe even a blowout.
And, apparently, these 25 witnesses never twigged to it being the first shot even after hearing two more - which they then realized were shots.  And most of them still recalled 3 shots but never thought the first noise was a shot..... You are joking, right?

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That, coupled with the fact that JFK's "startle reaction" was undoubtedly too subtle to be observable, the fact that his and Jackie's conscious head turning around Z-139 evoked their inquisitiveness, if anything, and the fact that the first shot missed everything, led them to mistakenly believe that Oswald's second shot around Z-222 was his first one -- for the simple reason that JFK's and JBC's reactions were quite noticeable only after they were both wounded by CE-399.
You are using a circular argument.  You are using your conclusion that an early shot occurred to explain what you think is a subtle "startle reaction" of JFK and Jackie's very slight head turn farther to the left and then using those reactions to bolster your argument that there was an early missed shot.  You need evidence that a first shot occurred there first.  And the problem you have (as Dan O'Meara has also been explaining) is that all the evidence - literally several dozen witnesses - is completely inconsistent with an early missed first shot.
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Did you happen to notice the car is turning the corner? As such, the perspective of Zapruder's camera to the car is constantly changing as the car makes the turn. Bennett is not leaning right. The backseat is moving right in relation to Zapruder's sight line. This isn't exactly rocket science.

Is that what's causing George Hickey to lean over the other side of the car in Z-150?

Centripetal (or is it centrifugal?) force?

How may Gs do you figure they're pulling?

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z150.jpg


By the way, regarding your beloved "jiggle analysis" approach, the HSCA's scientific panel concluded that, based on its "blur analysis" of the Zapruder frames, JFK and Connally were struck by one bullet at approximately Z-190.

Do you agree with the panel's conclusion, timing wise?


PS How about Z-153, Werner Von Braun?

Can you detect Bennett's lean, yet?

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z153.jpg
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You're beyond hope, then.

Especially if you compare said tilt with the way he looked in frame Z-138.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z138.jpg

Did you happen to notice the car is turning the corner? As such, the perspective of Zapruder's camera to the car is constantly changing as the car makes the turn. Bennett is not leaning right. The backseat is moving right in relation to Zapruder's sight line. This isn't exactly rocket science.
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