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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Last post by Royell Storing on October 30, 2025, 12:59:34 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on October 29, 2025, 07:19:07 PM
Dear Comrade Storing,

It's too bad that the longitudinal axis of your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR (and the parallel "island") weren't perfectly perpendicular (or should I say parallel?) to the lenses of Couch's, Darnell's and Wiegman's cameras, but it wasn't, and therefore, the front part of the car appears to be well to right of the traffic light pole in Couch and Darnell. The important thing is that James' spliced-together Wiegman frame lines up well with the pertinent frames from Couch and Darnell (i.e., Couch, Darnell, and Wiegman shot the scene from almost identical positions in the Elm Street / Houston Street intersection, and therefore objects in Couch and Darnell can be compared location-wise, with objects in Wiegman to see whether or not they moved from where they were about twenty seconds earlier in Wiegman, and if so, how much and in which direction.

I contend that if the gaggle of about ten shoulder-to-shoulder people had remained in place for about twenty seconds after the final shot, we wouldn't be able to see any part of your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAAY CAR in any part of Couch-Darnell.

-- Tom

        This car is roughly 17.5' X 4' and you're telling me that somehow this entire car has somehow completely disappeared from the Wiegman Film? That is David Copperfield and his disappearing elephant worthy.
        With respect to, "..... people had remained in place for about twenty seconds....", I ask you to review the Towner Film vs the Wiegman Film with respect to individuals movement on/around the Island. And this includes Fedora Man. I continue urging you to actually DO THE RESEARCH and review the JFK Assassination Films/Images. It is obvious that your JFK Assassination Image foundation is currently lacking. Please get off of your duff and do the legit research work and catch up. ALL of this is available on You Tube. Stop screwing around with Lego Car visual aids, overlays, and "shadow dancing" guess work. Try actually examining good copies of the JFK assassination films. 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: I am satisfied the JFKA has been solved
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on October 30, 2025, 12:23:00 AM »
JN-

Yes, I have read the WC and HSCA testimonies.

I think I am on solid ground when I say Dr. Shaw leaned towards a separate bullet striking JBC, and was puzzled by the dorsal entry wound to JBCs wrist.

Yes Shaw allowed the SBT was possible.

My views are roughly those of Shaw. The SBT strikes me as dubious, and the JBC wrist wound an oddity.

Also, if you look at Z-280, you will see the left profile of JBCs face, as he looks towards the rear of the limo. JBC has made a nearly 180-degree turn in his seat.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z280.jpg

Yet by the reasoning of SBT, at this point JBC has already been shot through the chest by a large slug issued from a high-powered rifle, had his right wrist fractured, and the missile then buried itself in his left thigh.

After all that, JBC decides to turn around entirely in his seat and check on JFK...so says the SBT.

In constrast, JBC says he was immediately incapacitated by the slug that struck him, and was pushed forward by the impact. Thats strikes me as believable.

For me, the SBT is iffy.

But hey, caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.


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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: If I were a CTer, I'd do a deep dive into this ...
« Last post by Tom Graves on October 29, 2025, 11:17:16 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on October 29, 2025, 10:11:22 PM
I have previously mentioned the manhole cover area and the Curb/Tague injury. These areas would reflect a possible missed shot from the bushes area.

I see.

(LOL!)
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Tom Graves on October 29, 2025, 11:15:37 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on October 29, 2025, 11:02:33 PM
My research of the Elm Street Extension remains ongoing. I just uncovered another piece to this puzzle. The Elm St Ext remains JFK Assassination virgin ground. It has been foolishly ignored for 61+ years.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Are you going to give any of your Nobel Prize winnings to The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx")?

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Last post by Tom Graves on October 29, 2025, 11:10:15 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on October 29, 2025, 10:27:39 PM
What the Darnell/Couch film shows of the car is unimportant.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Question:

Do the Coutch and Darnell films accurately capture the location of THE HUGE GATES in relation to other non-movable objects or features in the field of view?

Answer:

Yes, of course.

Question:

If your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR were a permanent, non-movable feature in the Darnell film (like the edge of the building where THE HUGE GATES start), wouldn't it be hidden behind the gaggle of people in the Wiegman film?

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Royell Storing on October 29, 2025, 11:02:33 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on October 29, 2025, 10:52:49 PM
Dear Comrade Storing,

When are you going to get around to answering my questions?

-- Tom

   All you gotta do is say "Uncle". Oh yeah, I almost forgot. My research of the Elm St Ext remains ongoing. I just uncovered another piece to this puzzle. The Elm St Ext remains JFK Assassination virgin ground. It has been foolishly ignored for 61+ years.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Tom Graves on October 29, 2025, 10:52:49 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on October 29, 2025, 10:50:05 PM
Just Prove Me Wrong. That's all you gotta do. 1 single image of that car parked alongside the Island BEFORE the Wiegman Film Footage of the Island would do that. But as I learned in Religion Class, "from nothing, nothing comes". That car was NOT THERE Before and During the Wiegman Filming of the Island/Fedora Man. Just how do you believe a possible shooter and maybe a spotter would plan on escaping from the 6th Floor of the TSBD/Dealey Plaza? Hint - They definitely would Not plan on using the TSBD FRONT door.

Dear Comrade Storing,

When are you going to get around to answering my questions?

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Royell Storing on October 29, 2025, 10:50:05 PM »

   Just Prove Me Wrong. That's all you gotta do. 1 single image of that car parked alongside the Island BEFORE the Wiegman Film Footage of the Island would do that. But as I learned in Religion Class, "from nothing, nothing comes". That car was NOT THERE Before and During the Wiegman Filming of the Island/Fedora Man.
   Just how do you believe a possible shooter and maybe a spotter would plan on escaping from the 6th Floor of the TSBD/Dealey Plaza? Hint - They definitely would Not plan on using the TSBD FRONT door.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Last post by Royell Storing on October 29, 2025, 10:27:39 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on October 29, 2025, 07:19:07 PM
Dear Comrade Storing,

It's too bad that the longitudinal axis of your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR (and the parallel "island") weren't perfectly perpendicular (or should I say parallel?) to the lenses of Couch's, Darnell's and Wiegman's cameras, but it wasn't, and therefore, the front part of the car appears to be well to right of the traffic light pole in Couch and Darnell. The important thing is that James' spliced-together Wiegman frame lines up well with the pertinent frames from Couch and Darnell (i.e., Couch, Darnell, and Wiegman shot the scene from almost identical positions in the Elm Street / Houston Street intersection, and therefore objects in Couch and Darnell can be compared location-wise, with objects in Wiegman to see whether or not they moved from where they were about twenty seconds earlier in Wiegman, and if so, how much and in which direction.

I contend that if the gaggle of about ten shoulder-to-shoulder people had remained in place for about twenty seconds after the final shot, we wouldn't be able to see any part of your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAAY CAR in any part of Couch-Darnell.

-- Tom

     The ONLY Film that matters in this discussion is the Wiegman Film. Specifically, the Wiegman Film snippet showing Fedora Man. What the Darnell/Couch film shows of the car is Not Important. We see this same car on the Hughes Film and the Martin Film. Same Car, Same Spot. The Darnell/Couch Films are not the sole source for verifying this car was parked alongside the Island. What DOES MATTER is the Wiegman Film NOT SHOWING any trace of this car on the (L) of Fedora Man. A 17.5' X 4'  automobile. And why is that? This car was NOT THERE Yet! 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
« Last post by Jack Nessan on October 29, 2025, 10:19:32 PM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on October 29, 2025, 08:33:25 PM
I would admit it if there was anything in the photo that could be his arm.  There isn't. Here: you mark where you think JFK's waving right arm/hand is:


or just describe how many pixels you think his hand is from some identifiable point.It would be more accurate to say that you subtracted a shot from the evidence of three shots.
The bullet breaking into fragments and leaving the car is an answer. And there is evidence that this occurred on the second shot.

I never suggested that the shot at z312-313 did not fragment. The two fragments found in the car (CE567 and CE569) are likely from that head shot. No one in the car said that they sensed an impact within the car (as Greer did on the second shot) and no one outside the car sensed an impact from that shot (as Tague did, on the second shot).
There was lead embedded in the femur as seen on two different xrays of the left thigh.  The impact was oblique and dented the base of CE399.  There is no reason to believe that it would break the femur after passing through JFK and thigh muscle at an oblique angle.  You would need a pristine bullet hitting square-on to stand a chance of breaking the femur, one of the strongest bones in the body.There may have been some flecks of lead in the windshield frame and glass and in JBC, possibly on the floor.  Most of it appears to have gone over the windshield.  I know you find that convenient but that is the evidence.  Do you think Tague happened to be hit by the ONLY fragment that left the car?
 In the scenario provided by the evidence: 3 shots, 3 hits, one shooter, there is no SBT.  I have no idea why you think I am suggesting 2 bullets striking JBC's thigh.
In his first statement he referred to two shots and two observations on those shots.  In his later statement he clarified what he saw on each shot.  On shot 2 he saw JFK's hair fly forward. On shot 3, he saw the right side of his head was hit.  I don't know of any report that talked about what happened to JFK on the second shot that suggested that just his hair flew forward.  We can see his hair flying forward, by the way.  It starts at z273.

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Same nonsense on a different day. Maybe it is time to go back to fantasy land to create a new theory. This time leave Nelly and JBC, Jackie, and SA Hickey out of it.

You now have stated the second shot fragmented and hit the window molding and the curb by Tague. The attending surgeon, Dr Gregory, completely dismisses the whole theory you just presented. The bullet did not fragment. There was no fragmented bullet associated with the wrist, and a bullet did exit the wrist but backwards and in a whole state. The exiting bullet then struck JBC’s thigh backwards and deposited a small amount of lead on the femur. You're always claiming that you follow the evidence. That is what the evidence shows that occurred. 

You failed to explain this. Where is the whole bullet that damaged the wrist if it isn’t the one that damaged the thigh? Where is the proof there even being a third shot? You have never presented anything.
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