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Do you have a link to the Brennan 11/22 TV interview on Youtube or elsewhere?

Even so, Brennan may have become fearful later. Other witnesses claimed to become fearful also.

 In any event, Euins and Jackson confirm the same thing. There was a shooter in the TSBD6 window.

This raises the question: How did that shooter leave without anyone seeing them? Likely, they just ran down the stairs ahead of anyone else, since they had planned out the escape route, and other TSBD'ers were still digesting what happened.



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Sonderführer Storing,

Maybe the "getaway car" belonged to a policeman cop!!!


-- Tom

    Are you claiming that a DPD cop was involved the assassination?
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FL-

There was another witness to a shooter in the TSBD6 sniper window, Amos Euins.

There were three loud shots heard deep within the TSBD, on 11/22.

LHO was invisible during the JFKA, unless we accept Brennan's testimony. No one inside the TSBD, or co-workers anywhere, saw LHO when shots rang out.

Brennan is a little squishy, even with your clarifications.

That said, the best suspect as the TSBD6 shooter remains LHO.

Still, Gov. JBC appears shot at ~Z-295 and JFJ at Z-313.

I suspect a second shooter, from behind.

Could be Alpha 66, G2, or KGB assets.

   2nd shooter? How about a 2nd shooter firing from the Bushes/Shrubs/Garden that runs along the Elm St Ext? Only feet from the TSBD. Only feet from the Huge Gates. Only feet from the "getaway" car.
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I suggest watching G. Robert Blakey's debate with Howard Willens. It's on YouTube. When the subject of Howard Brennan comes up, Blakey explained why the HSCA rejected Brennan's testimony. Blakey noted that he didn't think Brennan could have seen what he claimed to have seen from where he was standing.

Dear Comrade Griffith,

Brennan wasn't standing.

He was sitting.

Up high.

Above everyone else.




-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on December 18, 2025, 10:06:18 PM »
 
Hard to tell if that is Brennan. I looked at the Sixth Floor Museum copy of the opening of the Darnell Film. Darnell pans down Houston St about :25 seconds after the kill shot. The people standing near the corner/water pool have changed over that time span.  A couple of frames show 2 figures down low alongside the water pool.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Maybe Brennan jumped into the reflecting pool!!!

-- Tom
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The Nat Geo snippet you referenced is under 10 minutes after the kill shot. Do you see a single cop with his notepad out? This is why Inspector Sawyer had Euins, Brehm, etc loaded into his car. Sawyer was afraid he would lose these eyewitnesses amidst the helter skelter.   

Sonderführer Storing,

Maybe the "getaway car" belonged to a policeman cop!!!


-- Tom
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Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Are you and danny BOY o'meara ever going to synchronize your tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theories?

Vladimir Putin is counting on you!!!


-- Tom

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Royell Storing on December 18, 2025, 09:17:47 PM »


The first close up doesn’t help much. I thought it looked better when I posted it. Here’s another one that includes other items that might help give some perspectives.



I will try to give a description that might also help. Brennan is squatting with his rear end basically sitting on his heels. His right arm is resting on his right knee. His left arm is up with his left hand shading his eyes from the light. We can see a rough outline of the shape of his helmet on his head. He appears to be looking at the sniper’s nest window; which is higher and to Dorman’s camera’s left.

In the full frame image, most people are looking towards the limo’s position further down Elm Street. But some are looking around. Tina Towner’s hair looks like she has just very quickly spun her head because it is flying outwards in all directions and hiding her face so that we cannot readily determine which direction her head is facing. I checked Dale Myers’ film synchronization timeline and this Dorman frame is just an instant before Z313.
 
    Hard to tell if that is Brennan. I looked at the Sixth Floor Museum copy of the opening of the Darnell Film. Darnell pans down Houston St about :25 seconds after the kill shot. The people standing near the corner/water pool have changed over that time span.  A couple of frames show 2 figures down low alongside the water pool.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Charles Collins on December 18, 2025, 07:09:35 PM »
   Judging the position of other people standing around that water pool, makes me think that the Dorman still frame is After the 3rd shot. That railroad guy in  Overalls appears to be looking toward the Triple Underpass. The other people seem to be meandering around like the bulk of the motorcade had passed by. I need to see a clearer still frame to judge the posture of Brennan.
   With respect to the position of shooters, though it got a lot of stuff wrong, I believe "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (1988) got this one right. 3 total shooters. 1 in Front, 2 Behind. 1 of the behind shooters being, "almost on the horizontal".  "Almost on the horizontal" would include the Bushes/Shrubs/ Garden that run down the Elm St Ext. If you look at the uncropped Bothun Photo that shows the Umbrella Man & DCM sitting on the Elm St curb, in the background there is a Black Figure moving down the sidewalk that leads from the (E) pergola Shelter down to Elm St. This photo is roughly :45+ after the kill shot. You know how close that (E) pergola shelter and the sidewalk is to the Bushes/Shrubs/Garden. DPD Officer Smith running up the Elm St Ext  roughly:20 seconds after the kill shot, could have flushed this Black Figure out of the Bushes/Shrubs/Garden area into the (E) shelter/sidewalk. This (E) shelter/sidewalk area is Not where anyone would choose to watch the motorcade from. (The Bothun Photo is posted in this forum's "Photo Gallery")



The first close up doesn’t help much. I thought it looked better when I posted it. Here’s another one that includes other items that might help give some perspectives.



I will try to give a description that might also help. Brennan is squatting with his rear end basically sitting on his heels. His right arm is resting on his right knee. His left arm is up with his left hand shading his eyes from the light. We can see a rough outline of the shape of his helmet on his head. He appears to be looking at the sniper’s nest window; which is higher and to Dorman’s camera’s left.

In the full frame image, most people are looking towards the limo’s position further down Elm Street. But some are looking around. Tina Towner’s hair looks like she has just very quickly spun her head because it is flying outwards in all directions and hiding her face so that we cannot readily determine which direction her head is facing. I checked Dale Myers’ film synchronization timeline and this Dorman frame is just an instant before Z313.
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Dear

"All there is [three hours after the assassination] is this deserted "getaway" car and Inspector Sawyer's car still sitting in front of the TSBD front steps. No John Q. Publics, No DPD cops, nothing."

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

There were plenty of policemen cops standing near the so-called getaway car in the National Geographic video.

You were wrong.

No apple strudel for you tonight.

-- Tom

   The Nat Geo snippet you referenced is under 10 minutes after the kill shot. Do you see a single cop with his notepad out? This is why Inspector Sawyer had Euins, Brehm, etc loaded into his car. Sawyer was afraid he would lose these eyewitnesses amidst the helter skelter.   
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