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   I believe the timelines of the Wiegman, Darnell, and Couch Films were shortened to cover Wiegman filming the JFK Limo down by the Triple Underpass. We are talking only 20-30 seconds, but this had to be done to cover the JFK Limo STOP/Rolling STOP. This quickened timeline was also done to quickly place Oswald moving from the stairwell to the vestibule door, which is where Officer Baker first allegedly glimpsed Oswald. Giving Officer Baker an extended timeline would means Oswald would have had the time to already be inside/seated inside the 2nd Floor Lunchroom. Which would have verified the "soda pop" bottle story.

I'm asking a simple yes/no question.
Do you accept that Weigman shows the limo before it enters the underpass?
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Am I Tripping?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on August 06, 2026, 10:55:14 PM »
What thread?

PS I miss Fancy Pants Rancid!

It was some new fish who had tried to lay the law down but was given short shrift. He started bitching about how this forum was full of aggressive people and decided to leave.
Fancy Pants was all sympathetic with him so I pointed out how disgusted I was was that he had aggressively chased Toni Glover off this forum and that he was a massive hypocrite.
I can't remember what the thread was called but it's gone, including my own comment.
I didn't realise I could have my own comments wiped, even from my own history.
I want to know what the Heavens to Murgatroyd is going on.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: CIA Wallets at Tenth and Patton
« Last post by Martin Weidmann on August 06, 2026, 10:50:30 PM »
Troll

The classic response of a LN fanatical zealot who hasn't got answers. Pathetic!
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on August 06, 2026, 10:46:19 PM »
I don't know if you are feigning ignorance or are really that clueless.

The official chain of custody described in the Warren Commission Exhibits and other records is as follows:

Discovery – The bullet was found by Parkland orderly Darrel Tomlinson on a stretcher (later identified as stretcher “B”) in the hospital corridor.

Handover to Security Chief – Tomlinson summoned Parkland security chief O.P. Wright, who took possession of the bullet.

Transfer to Secret Service – Wright delivered the bullet to Special Agent Richard Johnsen of the Secret Service.

Handover to Secret Service Chief – Johnsen gave the bullet to Chief James J. Rowley of the Secret Service.

Transfer to FBI – Rowley delivered it to FBI agent Elmer Todd, who passed it to FBI crime lab agent Robert Frazier.

Chain of Custody – Frazier and others who handled it initialed the bullet, creating a legal chain of custody.

The next time you need to learn basic facts of the JFKA explained to you, try using AI.

You are such a loser it defies belief.
I am going to try and very gently guide you through your own profound ignorance regarding the reality of this case.
You are going to struggle but hold on if you do really value the truth.

Tomlinson NEVER, EVER confirmed that CE399 was the bullet he found in Parkland, EVER.
Do you understand what this means?
The WC Sham deliberately avoided asking him to describe or confirm that CE399 was the bullet he found.
Do you know what this means?
O P Wright categorically denied that CE399 was the bullet Tomlinson handed to him.
Do you know what this means?
Every person who dealt with the bullet in Parkland refused to identify CE399 as the bullet they handled.
Do you know what this means?
The WC Sham entered CE399 into evidence without a single witness confirming it as such.
Do you know what this means?

Ask yourself this - if you are the one who is in the right, how come it's you who can't answer the most basic questions regarding the origins of CE399?
It's got nothing to do with what I believe.
Why are you the one who looks clueless?

PS: Rowley, the Chief of the Secret Service, handed a bullet to FBI agent Elmer Todd.
Agent Todd then showed CE399 to Rowley who refused to identify it as the bullet he had handed to Todd.
Anyone with half a brain can work out why.


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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Am I Tripping?
« Last post by Tom Graves on August 06, 2026, 10:36:37 PM »
Recently some nobody who had made no contribution to the forum decided to leave because other members were showing him up for the know-nothing he was.
Payette also decided to leave and sympathised with this loser
I then pointed out what a hypocrite Payette was for aggressively chasing Toni Glover off this forum.

This whole thread, including my own comments, appears to have disappeared.
What the Heavens to Murgatroyd is going on?
Why has this thread disappeared?
Can any thread be disposed of?
Why have my own comments disappeared?

Duncan, please explain what has happened.

What thread?

PS I miss Fancy Pants Rancid!
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You can go to Bart Kamp's Prayer Man website and read his Hosty Notes section and see the notes passed muster with Pat Speer and Malcolm Blunt...The notes were posted in Hosty's book 'Assignment Oswald' and compare to other examples of Hosty's handwriting...I don't think anyone has ever challenged the authenticity of the notes being Hosty's...

This fraud has been assisted by individuals like Rob Clark, Robbie Robertson, Eli Frame, Tim Gardner, and Len Osanic...The aforementioned are persons, who although they have a modicum of assassination knowledge, all host Kamp in a fan-like manner and never question his offerings...They always host Kamp in an unquestioning way where there is no adversarial opposition to keep Kamp honest...They are persons who have the skill to put together a podcast but then host Kamp is a sycophantic manner where his claims are supported without any critical cross examination...I have been mocked and ridiculed by all the previously mentioned podcast hosts (Osanic put me on mute) because I refuted Kamp's Prayer Man theory...The reason for this is those podcast hosts rely on gang-like grouping up and favoritism in order to compensate for their lack of research skill that led to them backing the hoax researcher Kamp and his bogus Prayer Man theory...They operate like a pack of school yard bullies who use Kamp as a leg up in the research world...They don't care if the evidence shows Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton...Again, the clique serves to prevent good research more than encourage it no matter how much they flatter themselves on censorship protected sites...

Pat Speer used the fact I can't defend myself to mock my not being allowed back on The Education Forum...He humiliated me and made me look like an idiot who didn't pass muster who was justly denied...A "sorry Charlie" kind of thing that he took pleasure in doing while defending the clique...He then lied and said I stole my Prayer Man stuff from him and falsely used it as reasoning why I wasn't fit for membership on The Education Forum...The Prayer Man people are fully aware my Prayer Man material is quite my own and many orders of magnitude better than Speer's weak offerings...In fact my material is subject-leading and quite conclusive...The Prayer Man clique is dirty and won't correct Speer on his slanderous false accusation...These are the site's preferred members and methods...

When I Private Messaged Ciphered Past to request fair air time to defend myself I was threatened with legal action for harassment and stalking...And this was for a simple fair playing field reply request on my first contact on a public podcast that always includes the invitation for the public to contact them and add information they think would be helpful on each episode...They request correcting information that would help the show and then when you reach out to them, after being unfairly slandered and ridiculed on the air, their first response is to threaten you with legal action...Bush league hacks and clique boys running a bully club...

         You need a "Kamp Intervention". The above proves this is imperative.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on August 06, 2026, 10:29:12 PM »
I don't know if you are feigning ignorance or are really that clueless.

The official chain of custody described in the Warren Commission Exhibits and other records is as follows:

Discovery – The bullet was found by Parkland orderly Darrel Tomlinson on a stretcher (later identified as stretcher “B”) in the hospital corridor.

Handover to Security Chief – Tomlinson summoned Parkland security chief O.P. Wright, who took possession of the bullet.

Transfer to Secret Service – Wright delivered the bullet to Special Agent Richard Johnsen of the Secret Service.

Handover to Secret Service Chief – Johnsen gave the bullet to Chief James J. Rowley of the Secret Service.

Transfer to FBI – Rowley delivered it to FBI agent Elmer Todd, who passed it to FBI crime lab agent Robert Frazier.

Chain of Custody – Frazier and others who handled it initialed the bullet, creating a legal chain of custody.

The next time you need to learn basic facts of the JFKA explained to you, try using AI.

danny BOY o'meara would rather believe and preach that oodles and gobs off evil, evil U.S. Government and Dallas Police types planned the assassination, "patsied" Oswald, planted evidence, killed JFK, planted more evidence, got away, altered the photos, films, and X-rays, shot a round backwards into a bale of cotton through Oswald's Carcano and planted it (or otherwise surreptitiously entered it into evidence), and are continuing until this very day the massive cover up of their and their fathers' and grandfathers' dastardly deeds!

danny BOY o'meara is on a mission!
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Am I Tripping?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on August 06, 2026, 10:26:26 PM »
Recently some nobody who had made no contribution to the forum decided to leave because other members were showing him up for the know-nothing he was.
Payette also decided to leave and sympathised with this loser
I then pointed out what a hypocrite Payette was for aggressively chasing Toni Glover off this forum.

This whole thread, including my own comments, appears to have disappeared.
What the Heavens to Murgatroyd is going on?
Why has this thread disappeared?
Can any thread be disposed of?
Why have my own comments disappeared?

Duncan, please explain what has happened.
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Thank you for expressing your reservations so succinctly.
You agree the Weiugman film shows the Presidential limo about to enter the underpass, do you not?

   I believe the timelines of the Wiegman, Darnell, and Couch Films were shortened to cover Wiegman filming the JFK Limo down by the Triple Underpass. We are talking only 20-30 seconds, but this had to be done to cover the JFK Limo STOP/Rolling STOP. This quickened timeline was also done to quickly place Oswald moving from the stairwell to the vestibule door, which is where Officer Baker first allegedly glimpsed Oswald. Giving Officer Baker an extended timeline would means Oswald would have had the time to already be inside/seated inside the 2nd Floor Lunchroom. Which would have verified the "soda pop" bottle story.
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I am not suggesting that she is looking at JFK. You are saying she has to be looking where her hood is facing, which may be the QM or the VP car.  I am just saying I don't know where she is looking because I can't see her face. 

When she turns her hood and head at z202, she can't be looking at JFK.  But I still can't tell where she is looking so I have to defer to the evidence.  She said that when she stopped running she turned and looked at the roof of the TSBD and saw pigeons flying away from it. That fits with the position of her head at z202-206.

Your problem is you lack common sense. I don't know how I can help you out there.
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