JFK Assassination Forum

All it takes is a look at the forensic evidence and apply common sense. The bag had Oswald's palm and fingerprint on it. It contained fibers that matched the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle in the Paine's garage.

I'd love to hear a plausible alternative explanation for the known evidence from you but I know I won't because there isn't one.

All it takes is a look at the forensic evidence and apply common sense.

What "forensic evidence" are you talking about?

Can you prove that there was a rifle in Ruth Paine's garage on 11/22/63 and that Oswald took it? No, you can't!

Common sense is just another way of saying "I don't have evidence, but my speculation is good enough".

The bag had Oswald's palm and fingerprint on it.

Did it? And if so, Oswald's prints are also all over Frazier's car. Does than mean he owns that car? I'm sure you can make a "common sense" argument to "prove" it does!

It contained fibers that matched the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle in the Paine's garage.

There is no such thing as matching fibers in forensic science. "Look similar" is the best you will get and that's simply not good enough.

I'd love to hear a plausible alternative explanation for the known evidence from you but I know I won't because there isn't one.

And there is the classic LN's "I'm right unless you can prove me wrong" BS.

Why in the world should anybody have to present a "plausible alternative explanation" when you can't place a rifle in Ruth Paine's garage on 11/22/63, when you can't show that it was the same rifle that was found at the TSBD and when you can only speculate about what was in the paper bag Frazier saw Oswald carry. A paper bag btw that Frazier too this day still says wasn't big enough to contain a broken down rifle.

Just like every other LN you are all over the place and confuse assumption and speculation with actual conclusive evidence!

RS:  I am talking about the dirt road portion of the Elm St Extension.

So why did you bring up the limo turn and traffic signal in the Wegman film?

there are NO BOLLARDS between Officer Harkness and this alleged motorcycle cop.

Yes there are! Not only can you see many of them in the Darnell film, others are made obvious when the motorcycle cop walks behind them.

Here, bollards are outlined in red. Note that one is in Harkness' shadow:


Here, "B" marks where the line of bollards is. You can see that two of them are silhouetted by the MC as he walks behind them:


Here he is a half step later:

   The Darnell still frame at the top, shows this Unknown Motorcycle Cop, (white helmet), to be carrying something in his (L) hand. It has been speculated that he is carrying a glove. A glove would flop around as this man walks forward swinging his arm. The object in his (L) hand steadfastly maintains the shape of a cylinder as this man swings his arm while walking. This object is Not a Glove.

JC-

Verily, on the two trips necessary to move the M-C rifle from the Paine residence to the TSBD, if done in stages.

I concede that.

OTOH, the Dallas Morning News reported on Sept. 25 that JFK would visit Dallas on 11.22. By all accounts LHO was an avid reader of news, and a political student.

LHO is reported to have scoped out rooftop vantage points along Elm St., pre-11.22

In other words, LHO may have been planning or pondering whether to assassinate JFK in the month before 11.22, maybe from the TSBD, or maybe somewhere else, which ever was most propitious. The cavernous TSBD, with plenty of hiding spots, was a good place to cache the M-C, in any event.

So LHO moved the rifle in, but in parts. Maybe the barrel inside a pant leg.

My guess is LHO was part of the JFKA...what part, I can't tell you.

Dan Rather with that bag...I dunno. Great clip though.

I can tell you what part played in the JFKA. He did it all by himself. It was a one man operation and there is no evidence anybody else took part.

Oswald wasn't hired by the TSBD until October 15. No motorcade was planned until the White House agreed to make the Texas trip a two day affair. There wouldn't have been time for one if the Kennedys were only going to spend one day in the state. The motorcade route wasn't determined until the luncheon site was selected. The motorcade route was determined by the selection of the Trade Mart for the luncheon and that didn't happen until November 14. The route wasn't made public until November 18. Oswald could not have known before then of the opportunity fate had dealt him. On top of that, why would Oswald have bothered bringing the barrel in on a separate trip and risk having it discovered. The barrel was the shorter of the two pieces and would easily fit in the bag.

Nothing you have suggested makes the least bit of sense.

"The 2 of you might be able to figure out..." - what is wrong with you, trying to "assign" things for other people on this forum to do for you? This is your ridiculous theory.. it's not the responsibility of other people to "help" you.

   I have been researching the JFK Assassination for a very long time. Nobody that I am aware of has EVER claimed that Motorcycle Officer Haygood made 2 separate trips, on foot, deep inside the railroad yard. This is a new "claim", and I say "claim" because Haygood NEVER testified, NEVER said, NEVER wrote, that he made 2 separate trips inside the railroad yard. Hearing this absolutely New Claim after 62+ years, only makes obvious the factual strength of my groundbreaking revelation, "That ain't Motorcycle Officer Haygood on the Darnell Film".
   With respect to "assign", (whatever you mean?), several of us do work together backstage on various JFK issues. I personally appreciate ALL the help I can get. I am sure John does too. Have you never worked on a "group" project? Within a group setting, there are select people that work exceptionally well together. In a group setting, there are also "source" material(s) issues which sometimes come into play. Not everyone may have examined the exact same "source" material relative to the issue under discussion.

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