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It's always amusing to see amateur sleuths try to apply their limited knowledge to a highly technical field. I prefer to go with what actual experts in the field have to say on the subject. The FPP, composed of some of the most respected medical examiners of their day including WC critic Cyril Wecht, UNANIMOUSLY concurred with the original finding that JFK was struck by two shots fired from above and behind although they did reposition where they thought the entry wound in the back of the head was.

We have a choice here. We can go with the FPP or we can go with MTG? Not a tough call for me.
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As you listen to Blakey's interview with Rosenberg, you will hear how passionate he was about the case for conspiracy. He was certain that JFK was killed by a conspiracy, that there was a grassy knoll gunman, that Ruby shot Oswald on orders from the Mafia, and that the lone-gunman theory was untenable. However, you would never know this to read the scathing, draconian attacks on Blakey made by ultra-liberal conspiracy theorists, such as Joan Mellen and Len Osanic.

In his interview with Rosenberg, Blakey said that it was "a possibility" that some CIA-trained anti-Castro Cubans and some of their CIA handlers were involved in the assassination and that there were some "deeply suspicious circumstances" involving those individuals. But, Blakey did not believe the evidence established this scenario beyond the point of suspicion.

Blakey believed that the only scenario that was established beyond the point of suspicion was the Mafia scenario, and for this he was excoriated by both ultra-liberal conspiracy theorists and Warren Commission apologists.

Thankfully, there have been and still are plenty of pro-conspiracy JFKA researchers who are not ultra-liberal and/or who do not buy into the 9/11 Truther craziness and who do not rely on L. Fletcher Prouty's crackpot claims. These researchers include Jeff Sundberg, David Scheim, Anthony Summers, David Mantik, Harold Weisberg, Greg Doudna, Mark Shaw, Richard Mahoney, John H. Davis, Seth Kantor, Gary Cornwell, Stewart Galanor, Gaeton Fonzi, and Lamar Waldron, to name a few.

Once again, here are the links to Blakey's two-part interview with Rosenberg:

(part 1)
(part 2)
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   Once again, you are Lost. The alleged Gordon Arnold figure is NOT on the same side of the picket fence as the other 2 Men. The ground on the 2 sides of the N-S Picket Fence are NOT level with each other. Break down and buy yourself a copy of "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" DVD's. A new copy runs $13 + Ship over on Ebay. You're currently flying blind. Looking pretty bad.

I saw TMWKK when it aired about 35 years ago and it was a bunch of crapola then and I have no reason to believe it has improved with age. Initially, it was produced by a UK production company. It was re-edited and if I remember right, was presented on The History Channel. When I saw that version was being hosted by Bill Kurtis, I knew his career had done a U-turn.
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LP-

I guess WN is still moderating. Hard to tell.

The EF-JFKA has devolved into a Gong Show.

Simkin and Niedernut seem to have debilitating verbal diarrhea, and cannot fix, or even address, what ails that forum.

Many EF-JFKA devotees, maybe even dozens, care.

Let's not be casting aspersions on the Gong Show - now THAT was entertainment! Well, sort of ...

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LP-

I guess WN is still moderating. Hard to tell.

The EF-JFKA has devolved into a Gong Show.

Simkin and Niedernut seem to have debilitating verbal diarrhea, and cannot fix, or even address, what ails that forum.

Many EF-JFKA devotees, maybe even dozens, care.
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Here is the AI response to the dented shell:

How Warren Commission Exhibit CE543 Got Dented

Commission Exhibit 543 (CE 543) was one of three spent 6.5 mm Mannlicher-Carcano cartridge cases found in the “sniper’s nest” on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. It had a noticeable inward dent on the mouth (the open lip where the bullet had been seated) www.jfkassassinationforum.com.

Official and Expert Explanations
The Warren Commission’s own analysis, supported by FBI ballistic testing, concluded that all three cases (CE 543, 544, and 545) had been fired from the same rifle (CE 139) based on matching firing-pin, extractor, and bolt-face marks www.jfkassassinationforum.com.

The dent on CE 543 was examined by the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) Firearms Panel in the 1970s–1970s. They found that the dent was produced during ejection from the rifle, specifically from the rapid operation of the bolt/ejector mechanism, not before firing or from manufacturing/loading www.jfkassassinationforum.com.

The panel duplicated the dent in test firings with Oswald’s rifle, showing that one of four test cases produced a similar dent when the bolt was worked quickly. Microscopic comparison confirmed all three cases were fired in the CE 139 rifle, with no evidence of multiple chamberings or prior firings

Well, there is irony for ya: The guy who complains about the use of AI turns around and uses it to bolster his position. When are people going to understand: AI is fine if you want to know some specific fact like the boiling point of water (323° F., my AI tells me) or the date of the JFKA (November 11, 1982). It is not some "separate mind" that analyzes data and reaches a reasoned conclusion. It just scans the internet and regurgitates what seems to be the prevailing opinion. Besides, AI is an alien plot to transform humanity into a non-biological life form, or something like that.
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My mother used to say, "Lance, you're like a broken record - move the needle." Tech has advanced too far to call someone a broken record; most people wouldn't know what you were talking about. But MTG does seem to have some weird loop in his head that just plays the same stuff over and over ... and over and over and over ... and .... well, anyway, what on earth is the point? It's like he's preaching to an audience of junior high schoolers who have only the vaguest notion of who JFK was.
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Eek, NiederNut is back, it still says moderator under his name, and he seems to be as NiederNuttian as ever! False alarm, I guess.

(Slightly funny story: When I was with Xerox, one of my clients was a little Pakastani guy who was SO CLUELESS that around the office I coined an adjective like NiederNuttian out of his name to mean "absolutely clueless." I checked last year: He owns three high-tech companies, has thousands of employees, and is in numerous business and tech Halls of Fame - while I babysit six cats and waste my time on JFKA forums. Hmmm ....)
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Since we have some new participants in the forum, I'm bumping this thread. I think objective readers will see that the evidence proves that the JFK autopsy brain photos are fraudulent and cannot be photos of JFK's brain. I think objective readers will also see that lone-gunman theorists have no rational, credible explanation for this crucial evidence.

Here is a summary of the evidence:

-- Former HSCA FPP chairman Dr. Michael Baden acknowledged to famous WC defender Vincent Bugliosi that the autopsy brain photos show "less than" 1-2 ounces of brain tissue missing. Bugliosi did not realize that Baden's disclosure was devastating evidence against the autopsy brain photos. Indeed, Bugliosi trumpeted Baden's disclosure to "refute" the eyewitnesses who said a large amount of JFK's brain was gone.

-- But those eyewitnesses were surely correct. Why? Because we know that bits of JFK's brain were blown or fell onto 16 surfaces. Significantly, several witnesses said the tissue was gray or white. About 40% of brain tissue is gray and about 60% is white. Those 16 bits of brain tissue alone certainly added up to more than 2 ounces, not to mention that it exceeded "less than 1-2 ounces."

We also know that Jackie Kennedy brought a "large chunk of brain" into the Parkland ER and handed it to Dr. Jenkins, who then handed it to a Secret Service agent. That chunk of brain surely weighed at least 2 ounces. 2 ounces of brain tissue is about the size of a golf ball.

-- The autopsy report impossibly says JFK's brain weighed 1,500 grams. The average male brain weighs about 1,350 grams. 1,500 grams equals 53 ounces. 1,350 grams equals 47 ounces.

There is no way that JFK's brain weighed anything close to 1,500, not only because so much brain matter was blown from his skull but because the autopsy skull x-rays show at least 2/3 of the right brain to be missing, and multiple optical-density (OD) measurements of the skull x-rays confirm that only about 30% of the right brain is present in the x-rays.

This is hard scientific evidence that the brain photos are fraudulent.

In addition, it should be noted that in 1992, before any OD measurements had been done on the skull x-rays, none other than Dr. James Humes, the chief JFK autopsy doctor, admitted to JAMA that "two thirds of the right cerebrum had been blown away" (Journal of the American Medical Association [JAMA], May 27, 1992, p. 2798).

When Humes revealed this, he was unaware that in 1975, Dr. Fred Hodges, the then-chief of neuro-radiology at the John Hopkins medical school, examined the skull x-rays and found they showed a "goodly portion" of the right brain to be "missing."

BTW, the term "goodly portion" is a common and recognized idiom that means "substantial," "considerable," "sizeable." One can find the term "goodly portion" used in medical journals, including JAMA. Google AI says, "The phrase 'goodly portion' is used throughout the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) and its network journals as an idiom representing a large or substantial amount."

-- A number of eyewitnesses who got good looks at the damage to JFK's head said that a substantial part of the brain was blown away. These witnesses included mortician Tom Robinson, assistant autopsy photographer Floyd Riebe, Secret Service agent Clint Hill (who stared into the large hole in JFK's head for several minutes from 3-4 feet away), and FBI agent Francis O'Neill (one of the two FBI agents who observed the autopsy, and observed it from close range most of the time).

-- The autopsy photographer, John Stringer, told the ARRB he was certain he did not take the extant autopsy brain photos.

My posts in this thread present a detailed review of this evidence, including sources. The above is just a summary. To gain a better understanding of this crucial evidence, and to see the vacuous attempts of WC apologists to explain it, I recommend going back and reading the rest of the thread.

 


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JC-

Yes, for better or worse, the JFKA research community is now largely a group of balding and greying buffs, if they are still above ground. That includes me (still topside).

I concur with you, that most of the lay public gleans what they know of the JFKA from popular media or one article or book they read.

Platforms like "X" or Instagram and Youtube, even TikTok, are influential.

Worse, serious offshore money is being poured into those platforms.

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