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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 06:04:36 PM »
Quote from: Mitch Todd on Yesterday at 04:09:30 PM
RS: Again, this is YOU/TODD making the claim that Haygood, "could have just borrowed their radios" YOU! Stop trying to blame Barber. If you knew Haygood's WC Testimony, YOU would have never tried to run with it.

Well then, exactly where did I ever say this?


RS: If you did your research and knew the evidence, you would not be disputing that Haygood was back at his motorcycle at 12:35 going forward in time.

Where, exactly, did I ever dispute Haygood being at his motorcycle at 12:35?


You obviously do NOT Know the image evidence or the sworn testimony of the main players involved. I have researched this thoroughly. YOU have NOT. How about you seriously bone up on this issue and save me from having to correct you time after time after time? 

You don't even know what I've been saying in my replies to your posts. Why then should I --or anyone else-- believe that you've "done the research" if you don't understand what I've been saying?

                                                                            - TRY TO KEEP UP -

    I have quoted you as claiming that Haygood could have "borrowed" a radio. Why would Haygood be back at his motorcycle at 12:35 and then need to "borrow" a radio? If Haygood was back at his motorcycle at 12:35, he would use his own radio. Besides, there was NO OTHER RADIO near the (N) Elm St curb at 12:35. Your claiming that Haygood, "could have borrowed" a radio, also means that You are claiming he was Not back at his motorcycle at 12:35. 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 06:02:01 PM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 05:48:46 PM
The premise of my question was that you did clearly remember the number of shots because you also clearly remembered the pattern. |1   |2 3|.

One might correctly remember one and not the other.
For the record, I didn't remember either. I was not in Dealey Plaza when the shooting took place. I was in 7th grade math class.
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So it appears that you don’t think you are capable of making observations that form clear memories that last for a few hours.

I have said on a number of occasions that I might or might not remember specific details about an event. That makes me the same as the other 8 billion people on the planet.
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I would suggest that you are in a small minority of the human population in that respect.

I would suggest you greatly overestimate the general populace's ability to perceive accurate details of an event, especially a shocking event that happens with no warning and lasts less than 10 seconds.
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Does that mean they forgot that the first “horrible ear-shattering noise” had occurred seconds earlier after they heard more shots and realized what they were? Come on.  Try to make sense.

It's hard to forget something you didn't notice in the first place. Most people did hear 3 shots but some only remembered hearing 2. I find it probable that the one they either didn't hear or didn't remember hearing was the first shot. For whatever reason, that shot didn't seem to register with them. It's not hard to understand why that would be since the man they were all focusing on didn't seem to react to it either. He kept waving to the crowd and was slowly lowering his arm when he was struck by the second shot.

Do you have a better explanation for why some of the witnesses such as Jackie or Clint Hill only remembered 2 shots?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:55:50 PM »
Quote from: Duncan MacRae on Yesterday at 04:12:09 PM
JFK Assassination Short Railroad Yard Scenes With Dallas Deputy Sheriff  Roger Dean Craig - 5 Different Speeds


   DUNCAN - Thanks for posting this Darnell Film snippet here and on You Tube. It's very helpful especially with the various speeds.
                   I also believe that Buddy Walthers being in this snippet helps set the time stamping. Walthers was photo'd on (S) Elm St near the manhole cover at 12:39
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: "Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 05:49:18 PM »
Quote from: Robin Unger on Yesterday at 05:23:02 PM
Royell and John.

Thanks for the interesting comments.

The name Daniel Rodriguez popped into my head as a possible ID for the man in question but a google search only showed Daniel Rodriguez as a UFC fighter. I might not have the first name right or I might not have either name right.

Do you have the entire Death in Dealey Plaza program available. If so, it should identify this man. It always bugs me when I can't remember a name.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 05:48:46 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 05:28:16 PM
I might or might not correctly remember the number of shots.
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I don't think I would accurately remember the shot pattern if I wasn't trying to discern the shot pattern at the time of the event. What reason would I have to do that.

The premise of my question was that you did clearly remember the number of shots because you also clearly remembered the pattern. |1   |2 3|.

So it appears that you don’t think you are capable of making observations that form clear memories that last for a few hours. I would suggest that you are in a small minority of the human population in that respect.

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Many people did. Some did not. Some people did not recognize the first blast as a gunshot. Brehm can be seen still clapping his hands after JFK had brought his hands in front of his throat and slumped over following the second shot. At that point he apparently was not aware there was gunfire.
Does that mean they forgot that the first “horrible ear-shattering noise” had occurred seconds earlier after they heard more shots and realized what they were? Come on.  Try to make sense.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:40:42 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 02:56:02 PM
Great find. I wonder what this does to Royell's narrative.


          JOHN -  Your jumping at this 1 grainy still frame tells me you have NOT Watched the entire Darnell Film. There is More Darnell Film Footage before/after this grainy still frame. That additional footage will answer your question(s). Again, please do ALL of the research. Once again, you are completely embarrassing yourself   
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 05:28:16 PM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 03:51:25 PM
So what if the shot pattern had a pattern that enabled you to remember the number of shots because there was one shot and a longish pause of about 4-5 seconds and then two rapid shots close together and this was clear in your mind. Would you think that your memory at the time you gave your statement was reliable
1. as to the number of shots?
2. as to the shot pattern?

I might or might not correctly remember the number of shots. Many people did. Some did not. Some people did not recognize the first blast as a gunshot. Brehm can be seen still clapping his hands after JFK had brought his hands in front of his throat and slumped over following the second shot. At that point he apparently was not aware there was gunfire.

I don't think I would accurately remember the shot pattern if I wasn't trying to discern the shot pattern at the time of the event. What reason would I have to do that.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:28:09 PM »
Quote from: Mitch Todd on March 13, 2024, 06:11:50 AM
Who said that Haygood used the radio on his own motorcycle? By 12:35, both Harkness and King had their three-wheelers on top of the rail yard. One of them is seen riding around in the rail yard in the Hughes film. He could have just borrowed their radios

                                                                        - YOU CAN'T RUN AWAY -

                                                            "He could have just borrowed their radios".

                                    See that above?  That's YOU. That's YOU talking about Officer Haygood. That's YOU Todd.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: "Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames
« Last post by Robin Unger on Yesterday at 05:23:02 PM »
Royell and John.

Thanks for the interesting comments.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The final shot... from the bridge...
« Last post by Jake Maxwell on Yesterday at 05:21:44 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on April 25, 2026, 11:59:52 PM
How dumb would the conspirators have to be to put a shooter on the overpass. That's even dumber than putting a shooter on the grassy knoll.

Pretty smart, actually...
He's in the very best place for a sniper... with a slowing object coming toward him (thanks to Bill "Rubbernecking" Greer applying brakes)... and hidden behind the bridge posts... similar to the practice of ancient forts...
Not to mention the gathering crowd on the scene, obviously thinking this area might be the source of the last shot...





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