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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Handguns and the Tague Shot
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on September 11, 2026, 11:27:26 AM »
One of the many, many vexing curiosities of the JFKA is the "Tague shot": Where did it come from?

As JFKA buffs know, a lead projectile struck a curb near Tague during the JFKA, with enough force to spray concrete or other matter upwards into his face, causing cuts.

Some have posited a FMJ bullet from LHO's M-C caused the Tague shot. Only lead was found on the curb, by the FBI.

The argument goes this way: A FMJ slug splintered upon striking JFK's head, and lead squirted out of the FMJ projectile, and flew toward Tague's feet, causing the resulting injuries.

One problem is the FMJ that struck JFK did so on the lower right side of his head, and caused a blow-out of the right temple. That is, away from the direction of Tague.

Hard to see how lead squirted out through JFK's head towards Tague. The x-rays show no blowouts or holes on the left side of JFK's skull.

I put very low odds on the FMJ splintering after striking JFK's head explanation of the Tague shot.

One plausible explanation is the Tague shot resulted from a handgun.

AI:

In 1963, commercially reliable jacketed hollow point (JHP) handgun ammunition was virtually non-existent, as law enforcement and civilians relied heavily on standard lead round-nose bullets. [1] (https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/hollowpoints-myths-facts/99505), [2]

(https://www.quora.com/What-types-of-ammunition-were-commonly-used-by-law-enforcement-and-military-in-1963)

The State of Handgun Ammo in 1963

Standard Police Load: Most police officers carried six-shot double-action revolvers (like the Smith & Wesson Model 10) chambered in .38 Special. The standard-issue round was a slow, 158-grain lead round-nose (LRN) cartridge traveling at roughly 850 feet per second. [1]

(https://supervelammunition.com/history/), [2] (https://www.quora.com/What-types-of-ammunition-were-commonly-used-by-law-enforcement-and-military-in-1963)

During this era, the universal standard for civilian, police, and self-defense ammunition in the popular .38 Smith & Wesson Special (and the older, shorter .38 S&W) was a solid lead bullet. [1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_S%26W), [2] (https://revolverguy.com/ammo-evolution-38-special-treasury-load/)

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Someone armed with a snub-nose .38 at the GK, fired in the direction of Tague, as a diversion? The .38 lead bullet struck the curb, resulting in the light injuries to Tague?

It is a plausible explanation. The diversion worked?

But, LNT or CT, caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions. They will be as good as anyone else's.


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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Anna Luna's JFK Conspiracy Circus
« Last post by John Corbett on September 11, 2026, 10:56:23 AM »
   You have now claimed "NOBODY cares" to 2 different people. Try buying a vowel.

And still nobody cares.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The future of the Republican Party
« Last post by John Corbett on September 11, 2026, 10:55:13 AM »
    You obviously did Not hear what Trump actually said about the $5,000. Do NOT rely on, "The View", "Morning Joe" and the other Fake News Sources that spew the garbage that you are now repeating.  This $5,000, is Not a "handout". Trump described it as a "Dividend". Trump promised a "dividend" way back when he 1st imposed taxes on Canadian Goods.

I can't remember where I first heard it but it's a bad idea not matter what you call it. If the government hands out $5000 checks and doesn't offset it with cuts in other areas, it's going to be inflationary. If there is a windfall from the tariffs, I'd rather see it used to pay down the debt which would have a cooling effect on inflation and benefit the American people every bit as much as a handout. But since this is an election year, paying down the debt wouldn't make as big a splash as "free money". People don't understand that it's zero sum game. The more dollars the government puts into circulation, the less purchasing power those dollars will have.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Are CT'ers "Crazy"? Or LNT'ers?
« Last post by John Corbett on September 11, 2026, 10:46:17 AM »
To be sure, there are plenty of farfetched JFKA CT's out there, mostly on the backdrop to the sordid event, and the subsequent cover-up. So, CT'ers often look nutty.

Furthermore, many JFKA CTs have become a platform for people to promote their ideological agendas.

OTOH, the second official investigation into the JFKA, the HSCA-1979, concluded there was a probability of JFKAC, and that likely there had been a gunshot at the GK, as the limo passed.

There were a lot of smart and skeptical guys on the HSCA, and plenty of professional staffers.


Unfortunately, the smart guys were in the minority which is why the HSCA issued their FUBAR finding of a conspiracy.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Are CT'ers "Crazy"? Or LNT'ers?
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on September 11, 2026, 10:18:01 AM »
TG-

Why "strange"?
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Are CT'ers "Crazy"? Or LNT'ers?
« Last post by Tom Graves on September 11, 2026, 10:14:30 AM »
TG-

I never read anything solid that LHO did much more than look at radar screens and hang around pretty girls in Japan.

Were the girls honey-pots? Maybe.

Strange sentence:

"There may be a link between LHO and CIA'er Bruce Solie, but Solie may have been de facto KGB."
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: "Kill the president will you?"
« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on September 11, 2026, 07:52:21 AM »
The only one “in on it” was Ozzie and the friends in his head.  He had his influencers, fer sure, but in the end, it was all him, ad hoc after the parade route was published, imho.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Are CT'ers "Crazy"? Or LNT'ers?
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on September 11, 2026, 06:23:54 AM »
TG-

I never read anything solid that LHO did much more than look at radar screens and hang around pretty girls in Japan.

Were the girls honey-pots? Maybe.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The future of the Republican Party
« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on September 11, 2026, 06:20:42 AM »
You talkin' to me??

Non, Mssr. Graves, just laughing along with you as we slouch towards gomorah, along with Bork the dork may he rest in peace.  I wonder if he returned all his VHS tapes?  Those late fees….. ugh
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The future of the Republican Party
« Last post by Tom Graves on September 11, 2026, 05:37:12 AM »
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa ! Oh the Ingram angle dangle argle bargle gargle, you cats are in serious trouble.  Wait’ll the ATMs won’t spit out their paper.  Perhaps you’ll use Pokémon cards after all ………..

You talkin' to me??
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