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Not a great look. Like me, JFK probably eschewed hats because he had excellent hair and knew his groupies didn't want to see it mussed (no, I don't have groupies, but all the women in the family do assure me that I have quite amazing hair; in fact, the head shot mostly likely would've just bounced off my hair).

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Forgive me, but I've been at this too long to take you guys and your never-ending snipe hunt seriously. It never ceases to amaze me that despite 62 years of futility, you're still pursuing the white whale.

This is why Dan O'Meara aptly called you a tinfoil hat LNer.

The condition of CE 543 is a straightforward factual issue that Charles, whom I don't believe is a CTer, raised. It is neither an LN or CT issue per se, just a factual issue.

Jack Nessan is not a CTer. He believes Oswald fired two shots, which is entirely consistent with Oswald being the sole gunman.

I am not a CTer. I am simply open to where the evidence may lead. CE 543 is simply a piece of evidence.

Dr. Chapman was a qualified forensic pathologist and possibly a ballistics expert. His opinion is worth exploring.

So who are these "you guys" strawmen you are addressing? On what basis other than your tinfoil hat LN opinion does the discussion of CE 543 qualify as a snipe hunt?

The fact that you literally CANNOT STAND any discussion that varies from your opinion, including even Jack's two-shot LN scenario, and that you CANNOT REFRAIN from snide and irrelevant comments even on threads in which you have no interest, is pretty much the mark of a tinfoil-hat crank.
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Forgive me, but I've been at this too long to take you guys and your never-ending snipe hunt seriously. It never ceases to amaze me that despite 62 years of futility, you're still pursuing the white whale.

If only the early missed shot theory that was not so full of holes. Exactly how does a theory work again, that lacks having any eyewitnesses in an area full of eyewitnesses standing shoulder to shoulder. It is not like you have any answers.
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He was wearing a fedora when he had to skedaddle back to DC to deal with the Cuban crisis. Usually, he would hold one in his hands (while deplaning) instead of actually wearing it.

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Are you possibly just slightly ... unhinged?

Could Duncan possibly carve out a subforum for more-or-less normal people?

Forgive me, but I've been at this too long to take you guys and your never-ending snipe hunt seriously. It never ceases to amaze me that despite 62 years of futility, you're still pursuing the white whale.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / What if......?
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 04:38:18 PM »
The discussion about whether JBC could have continued to hold his hat after being shot in the wrist, triggered a strange thought in my head. What if JFK had chosen to wear the Stetson they gave him that morning at the Ft. Worth breakfast. Would that have confused Oswald? He would have seen two guys wearing cowboy hats in the limo. Would he have figured out which one was JFK. Could it have caused him to hesitate? All theoretical of course. One of a number of unanswerable questions regarding the JFKA.

JFK was very self-conscious about wearing hats, hence his reluctance to don it at the Ft. Worth breakfast. He was rarely photographed wearing one. He and Ike wore top hats to his inaugural. There's a small number of photos of him wearing a Fedora. I think most if not all of those were taken before he became POTUS.

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It drives me nuts when I cannot nail something down. At Steve Duffy's "JFK Assassination Index" blog, the entry for Chapman refers to "Re Access to Autopsy Materials by Dr. E. Forrest Chapman" as though this is a document. The citation is to "JFK Collection List, pg. 27 (AMKW 65)." AMKW is a three-part collection of documents compiled by indefatigable researcher Anna Marie Kuhns-Walko following the 1992 document release. AMKW 65 would be document 65 in that collection. Discussions in the 1990s say the collection is "marketed commercially by such organizations as JFK/Lancer" and is "easily accessible" - but darned if I can find it.

At the MFF website, I found a reference to the Rockefeller Commission Report that quotes Chapman as saying in a telephone interview that if there were GK shooters they must have been very poor shots because they missed everything. MFF also has the AMKW 65 reference but apparently not the document.

It sounds like Chapman was closely aligned with Cyril Wecht and mostly shared his views. With that, I think I've reached a dead end.

CE 543  FBI  FRAZIER

The article about Dr Chapman came from this magazine. I believe this is the predecessor of The New American Magazine

They Killed the President, by Alan Stang (American Opinion, February 1976).pdf (archive.org)

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Military primers in military rounds are different in makeup than the civilian market primers. Much harder and designed different. Comparing the row of pictures to CE 543 is really an apples to oranges scenario. At the time we did not have any Western Cartridge cartridges and only used what was available to make the point. The reason for the second row or additional row of pictures was to show individual carcano rifles were not the same as far as how hard the firing pin struck the shell casing primer. The second row is far less dented in. 

The best we could do was to use two Terni 1940 M38 rifles but the way these rifles were prepared for the American market was to just put them together and make sure they fired the round and ejected it.

Personally, I can’t believe the FBI missed so much about these shells. Not only did they miss the dished in primer but the Chamber Mark on just 5 of the 6 shells. They had six shells in their possession and noted the chamber mark in the analysis of some of them but not all. It would have been easy to look and see what was in the chamber causing the indentation and maybe did look but did not note it other than to state it about some of them in the analysis. I have wondered if they realized to declare that only two of the shells showed to have been fired would that information have fueled a conspiracy belief with Merriman Smith’s/ Walter Cronkite’s three shot News Bulletin. 

A conspiracy is exactly how Dr Chapman and Josiah Thompson viewed the information.

 
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That's never stopped a dedicated CT in the past. All you need to do is find another rabbit hole to explore.

Are you possibly just slightly ... unhinged?

Could Duncan possibly carve out a subforum for more-or-less normal people?
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Does it take a doctor to know that AI is a questionable research tool?

So a bullet from an Ar-15 doesn't travel at 3200 ft per sec?
A bullet that close, of that high velocity, does not slice cleanly through cartilage and skin?
The shockwave does not produce intense sound levels (up to 190 dB) - that fracture an eardrum?
My guess is at least 30% of what you say is off the top of your head BS:
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It drives me nuts when I cannot nail something down. At Steve Duffy's "JFK Assassination Index" blog, the entry for Chapman refers to "Re Access to Autopsy Materials by Dr. E. Forrest Chapman" as though this is a document. The citation is to "JFK Collection List, pg. 27 (AMKW 65)." AMKW is a three-part collection of documents compiled by indefatigable researcher Anna Marie Kuhns-Walko following the 1992 document release. AMKW 65 would be document 65 in that collection. Discussions in the 1990s say the collection is "marketed commercially by such organizations as JFK/Lancer" and is "easily accessible" - but darned if I can find it.

At the MFF website, I found a reference to the Rockefeller Commission Report that quotes Chapman as saying in a telephone interview that if there were GK shooters they must have been very poor shots because they missed everything. MFF also has the AMKW 65 reference but apparently not the document.

It sounds like Chapman was closely aligned with Cyril Wecht and mostly shared his views. With that, I think I've reached a dead end.

That's never stopped a dedicated CT in the past. All you need to do is find another rabbit hole to explore.
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