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With all the cameras now in the world that capture almost every random event, we have no credible Bigfoot footage.  It's all nonsense.  My guess is that many of those who purport to believe in such things actually know it's nonsense but are having fun playing along with the hardcore nuts.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Matt Brooks on Yesterday at 05:59:07 PM »
I think the First shot might've been fired around the same time as the first splice on the Zapruder film, it seems very likely, What, are you gonna try to convince me the first shot was fired after Kennedy starts waving again? After the little girl in the background stops running? After Connally turns around?
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One thing i've been wanting to do for this November 22 was release a Zapruder frame set and video with merged frames from the 1998 MPI DVD, The Sixth Floor Museum site copy, and JFK: The Lost Bullet.
There's a problem, however, i've been struggling with finding a good piece of software to do this, i mean, all i gotta do is stretch and resize, right? i don't wanna be a photoshop expert for this, i don't even use windows, i use linux, so Adobe products are a no-go.  ???
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I don't need to disprove anything. The people making the claim have the burden of proof.
The regulars on this forum all know you are nuts. You choose to believe things for which there is zero evidence.


It is pretty obvious that the reason Ruby corrected Wade was because of the need to prevent Oswald from being known for what he really was, an anti-Castro agent provocateur...I imagine Wade made a Freudian Slip when he said Oswald was a member of the anti-Castro Free Cuba Movement...Wade knew Oswald was CIA and was playing the role of pro-Castro agitator...
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No matter what evidence were to be developed by digging into the above material, you and your fellow WC true believers would never admit that someone was impersonating Oswald in the weeks leading up to the assassination.

JFK Mythology 101.
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I don't engage in the prayer man nonsense.

Reporter: "Were you in the building sat the time?"

Oswald: "Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir."

Oswald is telling us he was inside the building "at the time".  If he was inside the building at the time, then he was not out front on the landing.  If he was not out front on the landing, then he is not prayer man.  If he is not prayer man, then who cares who prayer man is.


You don't get to choose which evidence you recognize and which you don't...

The need to debunk the Greg Parker Prayer Man theory led me to the most important evidence discovery of our generation in the form of Sarah Stanton hearing Oswald say he wasn't going down to the front steps to watch the motorcade but was going back in to the 2nd Floor Break Room instead to eat his lunch...

The Education Forum also chooses which evidence it recognizes and which it doesn't and it uses vicious censorship and persecution (and lies about site rules violations) to keep this very important information from the awareness of the research community all so it can pamper Jim DiEugenio and run things the way he likes - which involves censoring people who out-argue him...All so it can maintain the clique...

Simkin and Iler remain on the safe side of accounting for this by the means of uncredible ignoring, banning, and censorship...So while you pose yourself as a strict maintainer of accuracy you offer flimsy excuses when it comes to keeping the clique honest...The members of The Education Forum sell other researchers out cheaply as long as they get a guaranteed seat at the forum...They are responsible for the lack of progress in solving the case...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 05:40:21 PM »
The Innocence Project has been successful in setting aside convictions based on mistaken eyewitness identification evidence.  Eyewitness identification evidence is not fact observation unless the witness knows the person and recognizes them at the time of the offence.  There are also serious problems with ensuring the evidence is not contaminated with bias of the official conducting a photo or in-person line up.

But the Innocence Project has also been successful in reversing convictions by getting forensic evidence thrown out:  Good examples being faulty bite mark evidence posing as “science”;  comparative bullet lead analysis being rejected completely; rejecting evidence of hair and fibre comparison “matches”; and getting opinions of so called arson experts excluded (have a look at the tragic Texas case in which Todd Willingham was convicted to see what kind of junk science masquerades as “forensic science”.).

In Canada, the wrongful conviction of a man charged with murder based on flawed forensic medical evidence that conflicted with the timeline established by several independent witnesses was set aside after a reenactment showed how the victim likely died.  The correct verdict showed that the witnesses were right. Lookup the Clayton Johnson case.

The fact remains that eyewitnesses get things wrong and innocent people have gone to jail because juries accepted eyewitness accounts with no corroboration.
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Thus, WC apologists have no way to explain the fact that JFK's throat wound was small (about 5 mm), neat, and punched inward, textbook traits of an entry wound, and that the damage behind and below the wound was larger than the wound itself, another textbook trait of an entry wound. The shored-wound theory cannot explain the throat wound, and the FPP majority who floated this nonsense surely should have known better.

There is, of course, a logical, straightforward, forensic explanation for the throat wound's appearance and underlying damage: it was an entrance wound, just as the Parkland doctors initially said it was. But you guys can't be logical and follow the science because your theory of the shooting collapses if you admit the throat wound was an entrance wound.

Do we have to draw pictures for you? I've never argued for the shored exit theory and don't care about it. The reason the exit wound was similar in appearance to an entrance wound is because it was made by an FMJ bullet which doesn't deform when striking soft tissue. That's what they were designed to do.  They will make a nice neat exit wound similar to an entrance wound. Forensic medical examiners are still able to tell the difference. Any description of the wound was made from memory by Dr. Perry because his tracheostomy incision obliterated the wound. I think he had more pressing matters to tend to than getting an accurate measurement and description of the wound.

I've never seen a plausible argument from those who insist the throat wound was an entrance as to what became of such a bullet. Either it exited the body or it remained in the body. X-rays taken at autopsy found no bullets in the body. There was no exit wound for a bullet entering JFK's throat. Can you explain this conundrum?
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In my opinion Israel has to answer for their involvement just like anyone else and anti-semitism baiting doesn't change that...CIA clearly uses Israel as a wedge and that relationship is behind many of the worst black ops since their partnership...Including 9-11...


Iler is just a DiEugenio toady who is enforcing the clique...


The clique is pretending it is enforcing strict rules against me when the real truth is they are making sure I am silenced because they know I refuted the site's pet Prayer Man theory...
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Since it is obvious that lone-gunman theorists here are simply not going to admit that the HSCA FPP's SBT actually destroys the SBT, let us take a moment to revisit the fact that there were too many bullet fragments deposited in Connally's body to have come from CE 399, the SBT's alleged bullet.

In his 11/29/63 supplemental x-ray report on Connally's wounds, Dr. Jack Reynolds, Parkland Hospital's chief radiologist and later a professor or radiology at Southwestern Medical School, said the metal fragment in Connally's thigh measured approximately 3.5 mm x 1.3 mm on the AP x-ray and about 2.0 mm x 1.5 mm on the lateral x-ray, so it was definitely somewhat dense and not any kind of a "flake":

There is, however, one density which remains constant on both films and appears to lie beneath the skin of the region of the subcutaneous fat in the medial aspect of the thigh meters posterior to the exterior of the anterior cortex. The shape of this density is irregular but is roughly oval. Precise measurements are difficult but it is estimated that the greatest length in the AP projection is about 3.5 millimeters and the greatest width about 1.3 millimeters.

Measurements of the densities in the lateral projection reveal the greatest length to be about 2 millimeters and the greatest width to be about 1.5 millimeters The long axis of the metallic object is oriented generally along the axis of the femur. ("Supplemental Report Describing in Detail the Appearance and Location of a Small Metallic Density Superimposed on the Soft Tissue Shadows of the Medial Aspect of the Left Thigh of Governor John Connally on Films Dated November 22, 1963," 11/29/63, pp. 1-2)


In his 11/9/77 HSCA interview, Dr. Reynolds said the identifiable opacity in the thigh x-rays "definitely has metal characteristics" and that his 11/29/63 report describing "the location of this fragment" was "correct":

Dr. Reynolds stated that an identifiable opacity exists in the thigh x-rays and that it definitely has metal characteristics. He stated that his 11-29-62 report, describing the location of this fragment as just beneath the skin in the region of the subcutaneous fat, is correct. (7 HSCA 320)

In addition, Dr. Reynolds said there were "at least" four bullet fragments visible in Connally's wrist wound:

After examining the original and the enhanced x-rays, Dr . Reynolds stated that there are at least four fragments of metal identifiable in Gov. Connally's wrist wound (7 HSCA 320)

The wrist fragments and the thigh fragment could not have come from CE 399, given that the bullet was missing less than 4 grains of its substance. Russell Kent:
 
Dr. Gregory, Professor of Orthopedic Surgery, testified that he removed two fragments (but left other small fragments in the wound). These became Warren Commission Exhibit (CE) 842 below in Figure 32. There is no explanation of how the two fragments became four.

On 29th November 1963, Parkland Memorial Hospital sent Connally’s x-rays to the FBI. The dimensions of the fragment left in his thigh, as shown on one of the x-rays, were 3.5 mm by 1.3 mm.     

These are quite large fragments. It is reasonable to doubt that these fragments came from CE 399. (JFK Medical Betrayal: Where the Evidence Lies, pp. 210-211).


As I've pointed out previously, before they knew what they were supposed to say, before the SBT emerged as the explanation for JFK and Connally's non-fatal wounds, even Dr. Humes and Dr. Finck said that Dr. Gregory's 11/22/63 operative report described too many bullet fragments to have from CE 399 (2 H 374-375; 2 H 382).

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