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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Matt Brooks on September 28, 2026, 06:09:48 PM »
Where can i get a good quality Couch film? my copy is poor and i can't discern ANYTHING Royell mentioned there.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Is This Our Man?
« Last post by Royell Storing on September 28, 2026, 05:21:39 PM »
You are just adding confusion...

That man and his plaid shirt have nothing to do with anything...

  Now, you are running away from a legit Doppelganger Lovelady Plaid Shirt. And for a very good reason! 
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Sandy Larsen matched the plaid bars on Lovelady's shirt to those on the shirt of the man going up the extension beyond any reasonable doubt..

I find this very difficult to believe.
If this were true you would have pointed us to this evidence.
It would not surprise me if this turned out to be another of your fantasies but I'm open to being proven wrong.
If you can really provide another clear piece of analysis that shows Lovelady's shirt and that is nothing to do with the Sprague print I will concede that it is Lovelady and Shelley on the Elm Street extension, even though it flies in the face of all other available evidence and appears to be a physical impossibility.

Where can I find Larsen's analysis?

       It's to the point now that anyone that does Not agree with you is producing a "fantasy".  That's tired and plain weak. You're better than this. I've seen it.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: My Expose of the JFK Assassination
« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on September 28, 2026, 05:14:51 PM »
Although I am completely new on the forum, I am not new to the internet.  I am not new to childish sarcastic attacks on the truth such as the one that was made above me.  Quite the contrary.  I have experienced them everywhere on the internet.  I have come to expect that whenever I go anywhere and tell the truth about anything, I will be subject to such immature childish attacks, which are actually very revealing about the people making the attacks.  For example, the person who attacked me above did not address any of the points I made very eloquently to state why that I believe Jackie is the assassin of her own husband.  He just mocked and ridiculed and dissmissed the entire concept of what I was saying without addressing it as a factual possibility at all.  I am well accustomed to such tactics.  This is not just happening on this forum.  It is happening everywhere across the internet. Why is it that truth is hated and mocked and ridiculed in this world and lies and deception and ignorance are promoted so strongly, especially inside America?  This topic goes far beyond the JFK assassination.  It goes to the heart of what American society is.  America is supposed to be the most technically advanced country in the world, and perhaps we are that, but spirtually (which another way of saying truthfully) it is my experience that the American people are the most ignorant and deceived people on earth, who are so brainwashed that they no longer care about truth.  Truth to them is what the mass herd of people believe it to be.  They do not think for themselves.  They do not question.  Their minds are like closed boxes and they are unable to think.  All they can do is jump on the bandwagon of what someone else has given them to believe.  As someone who cares about truth, I am greatly dismayed at what I see in the vast majority of American people.  I consider myself a truth sayer who is trying to wake people up, but its almost impossible to wake up most Americans in this day and age.  We live in an age of deception, where deception is truth and actual truth is attacked and degraded as "Fake News" and "Conspiracy Theories" to be mocked and ridiculed by such fine people as Jerry Freeman.  I find this extremely sad.  I do not expect anything I say here to make one bit of a difference in the big scheme of things, but I think it is important to state what I believe to be the truth.  Here is the truth about the JFK assassination that goes far beyond the assassination itself:  America in 2018 is a very heavily deceived society, where lies are promoted as truth, and actual truth has become lies.  American society itself is a lie.  It can only continue to exist if the American people believe all the lies they have been told.  So the liars and deceivers and mockers and ridiculers are king in American society and people who only want the truth to be known are mocked and belittled and put down.  This is the truth and yet I will certainly be mocked and ridiculed even for saying these words by those who hate and despise the truth.  As I said before, I am fully willing to back up what I said about the JFK assassination with actual evidence, the Zapruder film itself.  I consider it a great and worthy caused to spread truth and back it up with evidence, and let the mockers and ridiculers do what they do best.  Of course Jerry Freeman is a Hero Member of this forum.  I would expect nothing less.

well…….  seems mssr. Doyle has met his match, uh…….
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Royell Storing on September 28, 2026, 05:12:01 PM »
The man is Weigman and, as you say, he is sprawled across the steps from where he filmed the Hesters. He is just about to get up and race down the knoll to film the Newman's.

The problem is Royell.
I am trying to synchronise various films and photographs to get as good an estimate as possible for how long after the headshot the Darnell footage begins.
Royell has constantly tried to derail these attempts and one of his tactics is to make up nonsense off the top of his head that I then have to prove wrong.
Royell believes that the figure in question is not sprawling across the steps, as is obvious to anyone with half a brain, but that he is running across the knoll towards Zapruder. It is utterly bizarre but he just keeps on insisting this is the case even though the man is not moving and is clearly sprawled across the steps.

    You simply do Not understand the layout of the Knoll, and Wiegman being filmed by Couch. At what point do you believe that Wiegman moves (W)? Wiegman has to move (W) from his position on the Bell Film, in order to then run Down the knoll and arrive near the Newman family. Wiegman is filmed running DOWN the knoll on the Couch Film.
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I find this very difficult to believe.
If this were true you would have pointed us to this evidence.
It would not surprise me if this turned out to be another of your fantasies but I'm open to being proven wrong.
If you can really provide another clear piece of analysis that shows Lovelady's shirt and that is nothing to do with the Sprague print I will concede that it is Lovelady and Shelley on the Elm Street extension, even though it flies in the face of all other available evidence and appears to be a physical impossibility.

Where can I find Larsen's analysis?


Sandy deleted it about 7 years ago...

Surely there has to be someone on The Education Forum who remembers that analysis...

Clique membership requires the members to pretend they don't remember it...

Sandy then doubled down by saying the woman's dress neckline in the 6th Floor Museum's 1st generation copy of Darnell was a CIA forgery designed to conceal Oswald work shirt collar...They let Larsen get away with that and Iler is preventing any honest discussion of Sandy's pathetic move...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Is This Our Man?
« Last post by Brian Doyle on September 28, 2026, 05:07:09 PM »

You are just adding confusion...

That man and his plaid shirt have nothing to do with anything...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Royell Storing on September 28, 2026, 05:05:43 PM »
He is sprawled  across the steps with just his feet extending beyond onto the grass is the way it looks to me. What’s the problem with thaf?

   This is yet another JFK Assassination Urban Legend that has simply been repeated until being accepted as being a fact. Wiegman has NEVER said he laid down/across the steps. No eyewitness has EVER said that they saw Wiegman laying down/across the steps. And, the Bell Film shows this figure to be FACING in the direction of the (S) portion of the Zapruder Perch. That figure is Not facing Mrs Hester on the ground.
   Gary Mack filmed a Knoll walk-through with Wiegman for, " Unsolved History JFK, Death in Dealey Plaza" (2003). So, we have Gary Mack with Wiegman walking all over the Knoll, almost standing in the shadow of the Sixth Floor Museum, yet Mack did NOT bother to show Wiegman the Bell Film to detail exactly what we are seeing on the Bell film. At a minimum, Mack should have shown Wiegman the Bell Film in the hope of jogging his memory. There is a reason why the "curator" of the Sixth Floor Museum dropped the ball here.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Dan O'meara on September 28, 2026, 04:57:57 PM »
He is sprawled  across the steps with just his feet extending beyond onto the grass is the way it looks to me. What’s the problem with thaf?

The man is Weigman and, as you say, he is sprawled across the steps from where he filmed the Hesters. He is just about to get up and race down the knoll to film the Newman's.

The problem is Royell.
I am trying to synchronise various films and photographs to get as good an estimate as possible for how long after the headshot the Darnell footage begins.
Royell has constantly tried to derail these attempts and one of his tactics is to make up nonsense off the top of his head that I then have to prove wrong.
Royell believes that the figure in question is not sprawling across the steps, as is obvious to anyone with half a brain, but that he is running across the knoll towards Zapruder. It is utterly bizarre but he just keeps on insisting this is the case even though the man is not moving and is clearly sprawled across the steps.

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Sandy Larsen matched the plaid bars on Lovelady's shirt to those on the shirt of the man going up the extension beyond any reasonable doubt...When I explained to Larsen that he himself had just proven the timing of when Frazier said he was standing and staring in shock at Sarah Stanton Larsen responded by going back to his photo analysis of the plaid bars and deleting it...When I confronted Larsen for that in an e-mail he responded by saying "You and I will never agree"...But that wasn't what I asked him...I didn't ask him if we would ever agree, I asked him if he had proven the timing of when Frazier was facing Sarah Stanton by proving when Lovelady was fast-walking up the extension...The membership of The Education Forum not only allowed Larsen to get away with that rank dishonesty but they also didn't even notice or care when told...That means Sandy was the kind of person who, like DiEugenio, knowingly, with intent, allows an innocent researcher to be unfairly banned for good evidence and doesn't care as long as he prevails...They have Mark Knight always on reserve to make sure the victim is punished and the real issue is ignored...Andrew Iler then role plays being a strict enforcer of highly principled standards - but all he really is is a DiEugenio shill...The Education Forum is a dirty board where the Prayer Man people are always going to be assisted out of their malicious misconduct by dirty moderation...Commit rogue moral violations against good research and good researchers and the clique will praise you right on cue...

Sandy Larsen matched the plaid bars on Lovelady's shirt to those on the shirt of the man going up the extension beyond any reasonable doubt..

I find this very difficult to believe.
If this were true you would have pointed us to this evidence.
It would not surprise me if this turned out to be another of your fantasies but I'm open to being proven wrong.
If you can really provide another clear piece of analysis that shows Lovelady's shirt and that is nothing to do with the Sprague print I will concede that it is Lovelady and Shelley on the Elm Street extension, even though it flies in the face of all other available evidence and appears to be a physical impossibility.

Where can I find Larsen's analysis?
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