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Baylor University Weigman scan.



Thanks, Robin. That Baylor scan is just about identical to Groden's 1995 DVD version, with the "Prayer Man" area displaying pretty much total darkness.

But I'll certainly have to give credit to whoever it was who enhanced and "lightened up" the doorway in the Wiegman copy seen below, because that version is by far the best I've seen when it comes to at least being able to see that there is a person standing in the PM location on the steps:



And to illustrate how the various copies can vary in quality, here's what my crappy copy of the Wiegman film shows. (You wouldn't even know that the Prayer Man person was there at all.) ....


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    That "interview" was no different than Groden sitting at his card table inside Dealey Plaza on weekends. Groden was sitting there to Pitch/Sell his very old books and DVD's. His JFK Assassination Film Library have always been sub-substandard dating back to his "JFK Assassination Files". He got away with that schlock back then due to it being pre-internet. People were extremely limited as to where they could go to buy assassination film copies. And that "Sharp" TV that he is "examining" JFK Assassination Films need go back on the shelf of the "Gemco" that he bought it from a long time ago. With the focus being on the TSBD steps/doorway, I found it strange that there was absolutely no mention of the Darnell Film during this interview.

Groden was simply trying to clear things up for people. He doesn't sell stuff anymore as he's retired from having a table at Dealey Plaza. Don't think you can even buy stuff off him anymore.
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   The above is hilarious. YOU have no evidence as to what Harkness did with his 3 Wheel Motorcycle. Zippo. The 12:36 Harkness radio transmission and his WC Testimony telling us he then helped load Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car are FACTS.  The stuff your peddling is pure speculation thrown out there AFTER my proving it is physically impossible for Haygood and Harkness to be filmed together at 12:34. That Troika image is 12:38. This puts Officer Haygood back at his motorcycle and gives Walthers time to get to the Elm St manhole cover for his 12:39 photo. These are FACTS. That DPD Motorcycle Cop is a fraud.
YOU have no evidence as to what Harkness did with his 3 Wheel Motorcycle

I have his testimony as to where he went and the sequence in which he did. He also testified that the area west of the TSBD was not the back of building. He testified that, while at the back of the building he encountered someone from the Secret service. Forrest Sorrels testified that he returned to Dealey Plaza as quickly as possible, approaching the building on Houston, and entering the building from the back entrance....which dovetails nicely with Harkness' recollections. Harkness testified that when the relief squad showed up to replace Harkness at the back of the building, he returned to the front. Even the simplest map will show that the easiest route from the truck dock at the rear of the to the front entrance of the building is to drive south on Houston along the East side of the building. This would necessitate a right turn on Elm which would leave Harkness ride facing to the west, as we see it in the Nat Geo footage. We also see in the Martin film that Harkness is driving Euins eastward, which would mean that Harkness would have stopped his cycle facing east, not west. All of these things are "evidence," and I already mentioned it all before. You just ignore it all.
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That was a great read, it's interesting what goes on and how a lot of defence lawyers are close to the lowest forms of life.
I'm sure the entire OJ defence "dream" team knew full well OJ was guilty but watching them "deal the race card from the bottom of the pack"* was pretty hard to watch and comparing Detective Mark Fuhrman to Hitler, was just plain disgusting. The early Johnnie Cochran was a man of principle, who rightfully defended Blacks but as he got more high profile and was guided by money rather that ethics, he became an embarrassment.
Also I think you're right that a lot of CT's act like defence attorneys but I reckon that a fair percentage of them lack critical thinking skills and genuinely think that Oswald was innocent  and it doesn't matter how much evidence is presented to the contrary they will have an out, and when push come to shove, the evidence was manufactured or the authorities lied, it's just all so predictable.
BTW you said you were on two juries, if you have time it would educational if you presented this case too?

Edit: * the actual quote;

Robert Shapiro told Barbara Walters, "Not only did we play the race card, we dealt it from the bottom of the deck".

JohnM
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James (middle name "Jesus," hat tip to Tom Graves) Angleton, CIA counter-intel chief in the 1960s, of course developed relations with the Five Eyes, but also Israel and others. Angleton had extensive relations with the Vatican, btw (Angleton was a nominal Catholic).

One might note all of that that was an entirely legitimate part of Angleton's  job.

John Simkin seems to believe Angleton "betrayed" the US, by having relations with Israel, and using Jewish refugees from the Soviet Union in a network of assets. Angleton was cozy with Tel Aviv! Horrors!

Simkin's source for all of this?The Grayzone.

Simkin does not tell readers about the background of The Grayzone.


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AI:

Based on reports from The Washington Post and other media analysis in June 2024, documents and hacked emails revealed that individuals associated with The Grayzone received payments from Iranian government-funded media.

Iranian State Funding: Hacked emails and documents from Iran’s state-owned Press TV showed that thousands of dollars in payments were made to a writer who served as a Washington-based editor for The Grayzone.
Intersection with Russia: The same investigations indicated that this individual was also paid by Russian state-controlled media, highlighting a pattern of receiving funds from both Iranian and Russian state sources.
Implications: These disclosures have led to calls for investigations into potential violations of Iran sanctions and the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).

National Council of Resistance of Iran - NCRI
National Council of Resistance of Iran - NCRI
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Aug 20, 2567 BE — Three-minute read. While several U.S. intelligence agencies have recently highlighted the Iranian regime's efforts to influence th...
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National Council of Resistance of Iran - NCRI

i24NEWS
International
US / Canada
Operating in the 'Grayzone': The pro-Hamas outlet being funded by Iran and Russia
There are calls in the U.S. to investigate the news website, whose founder and editor Max Blumenthal promoted the conspiracy that Israel killed its own citizens on October 7....

Benjamin Weinthal ■ Writing Fellow for the Middle East Forum



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The Grayzone "journalists" have also been on Moscow-RT payrolls. Shades of Oliver Stone.

Yes, The Grayzone has suggested the Oct. 7 massacre was planned in Tel Aviv. The same way Education Forum moderator-crackpot Willian Niederhut insists 9.11 was planned in ...you guessed it, Tel Aviv.

The takeaway: Simkin is not averse to dealing from the bottom of the deck.

And what has any of this to do the JFKA anyway?

Well, nothing, but the dis-Education Forum is not about the JFKA. It is platform for demented Western leftist-losers and Israel Derangement Syndrome cranks, who use perversions of the JFK legend to further their agendas.

The ideology writes the agenda, and the agenda writes the narrative.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.



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You've been exposed as a liar. The letter that you claimed showed Day had shown a "massive panic" doesn't say anything the remotely indicates anything of the sort. You simply fabricated the part about Day panicking about Frazier's polygraph. Why don't you just admit your deceit and move on.

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You've been exposed as a liar.

Welcome to the World Of Martin Weidmann! Thumb1:

JohnM
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RS: As usual, you leave out that which You Missed right out of the gate. Officer Harkness's #99 3 Wheel Motorcycle is sitting right there next to Inspector Sawyer's car.

I already addressed that, but I guess it hasn't sunk in with you yet. Here's a refresher.  Note that Harkness' cycle is facing to the west in the Nat Geo clip. However, when Harkness is carrying Euins to the front of the TSBD, they're headed east. If the Nat Geo clip was taken before Harkness went to the seal off the north side of the TSBD, then it would have been facing east. But it's facing the opposite direction. However, if the clip was taken after Harkness returned to the front of the TSBD after he was relieved on  the north side, we'd expect it to be facing west (i.e. Harkness drove the trike southwards down Houston, then a right on to Elm and the space next to Sawyer's car.)


And you're now stuck trying to Mickey Mouse the Harkness Timeline. His documented 12:36 radio transmission and his WC Testimony as to the order he did what he did, gives him a very firm timeline

My timeline for Harnkess doesn't contradict the 12:36 transmission in any way. You just aren't thinking.


It is physically impossible for Officer Harkness and Officer Haygood to be filmed together prior to Officer Haygood making his own documented 12:35 radio transmission.

You can't argue for your own points, nor against mine. All you can do is mindlessly repeat the same unsupported assertions.

   The above is hilarious. YOU have no evidence as to what Harkness did with his 3 Wheel Motorcycle. Zippo. The 12:36 Harkness radio transmission and his WC Testimony telling us he then helped load Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car are FACTS.  The stuff your peddling is pure speculation thrown out there AFTER my proving it is physically impossible for Haygood and Harkness to be filmed together at 12:34. That Troika image is 12:38. This puts Officer Haygood back at his motorcycle and gives Walthers time to get to the Elm St manhole cover for his 12:39 photo. These are FACTS. That DPD Motorcycle Cop is a fraud. 
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\  To test the location of the car either parked along the south (or north) curb of the Elm Extension, as seen in the Wiegman film, I plotted Wiegman’s position with test south curb versus north curb cars on a DP map. The plot showed the north curb car about twice the distance from the camera compared to a south curb car. Then for equal sized cars the north curb car would appear about one half the size of the south curb car to Wiegman’s camera.  I made a quick 3D view animation to demonstrate this and added a 5.5’ black suit man for comparison. It looks to me that the Wiegman car is nearer to the south curb. Note that I gave the test cars a steel-blue color (not white) for the 3D animation for modeling development use.

 



   There is No Car parked alongside the Island behind Fedora Man. NONE!
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   As usual, you leave out that which You Missed right out of the gate. Officer Harkness's #99 3 Wheel Motorcycle is sitting right there next to Inspector Sawyer's car. I had to inform you as to the Harkness 3 Wheeler being in that Nat Geo snippet. And you're now stuck trying to Mickey Mouse the Harkness Timeline. His documented 12:36 radio transmission and his WC Testimony as to the order he did what he did, gives him a very firm timeline. It is physically impossible for Officer Harkness and Officer Haygood to be filmed together prior to Officer Haygood making his own documented 12:35 radio transmission. "That Ain't Haygood"!
RS: As usual, you leave out that which You Missed right out of the gate. Officer Harkness's #99 3 Wheel Motorcycle is sitting right there next to Inspector Sawyer's car.

I already addressed that, but I guess it hasn't sunk in with you yet. Here's a refresher.  Note that Harkness' cycle is facing to the west in the Nat Geo clip. However, when Harkness is carrying Euins to the front of the TSBD, they're headed east. If the Nat Geo clip was taken before Harkness went to the seal off the north side of the TSBD, then it would have been facing east. But it's facing the opposite direction. However, if the clip was taken after Harkness returned to the front of the TSBD after he was relieved on  the north side, we'd expect it to be facing west (i.e. Harkness drove the trike southwards down Houston, then a right on to Elm and the space next to Sawyer's car.)


And you're now stuck trying to Mickey Mouse the Harkness Timeline. His documented 12:36 radio transmission and his WC Testimony as to the order he did what he did, gives him a very firm timeline

My timeline for Harnkess doesn't contradict the 12:36 transmission in any way. You just aren't thinking.


It is physically impossible for Officer Harkness and Officer Haygood to be filmed together prior to Officer Haygood making his own documented 12:35 radio transmission.

You can't argue for your own points, nor against mine. All you can do is mindlessly repeat the same unsupported assertions.
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