JFK Assassination Forum

The angle of the limo didn't change that much from Z190 to Z220. That's less than 2 seconds and the car had just come out of a very sharp turn that would have forced it to slow down. While the change in angle would have turned JBC's thigh farther left in relation to JFK, it also would have moved his torso farther left making it even less likely the bullet exiting JFK's throat would have gone to the left of JBC's torso. 

I am having difficulty understanding how the position of the car along Elm St. changes the relative positions of the two men.  The horizontal angle of the bullet trajectory to the car direction is greater at z190 than at z220. At z193 it is about 17 degrees:


It is less at z220 because it is farther down the road and the road curves a bit farther left.  I put it at about 10 degrees:



So at z193 the bullet moves farther left over the 24” or  2 feet between JFK’s neck exit wound and the back of the jumpseat by 24tan17=7 inches. If JFK was pressed against the side of the car the bullet would have exited about 8 inches left of the inside wall of the car beside JFK. JBC’s back was not pressed against the back of his seat at z193 and he was turned right. If his left shoulder was 6” forward of the seat back the bullet would move an additional 2 inches farther left.  The thigh would be another 12” farther forward so a bullet would have moved another 4 inches farther left before reaching the thigh: total 13 inches left of JFK’s exit wound.

Another problem with a Z190 shot is Oswald would have had to fire through the tree. Why would he do that when waiting just over one second would give him a clear shot. Now only would his view of his target have been obscured, firing through the trees raised the possibility of the shot being deflected by a branch. Even a minor deflection could cause a miss.

JFK was clear of the tree when he was just past the lamp post and not yet up to the Thornton sign. He was visible at all times as he passed under the tree.  This is evident from the Secret Service film:

Uh, no. Your talent for seeing things no one else can see is duly noted. I captured a screenshot of 29:30 but don't know how to post it. I see nothing but the flowers Jackie has in her hands in the YouTube clip I posted. Being a diligent factoid-buster, I reviewed numerous photos of Jackie at Love Field and in the limousine, and I saw absolutely nothing that looked like the Chopmeister. I would delighted if Lamb Chop was actually there, but I fear he was not.

Here is the Jack White photo, in which "Lamb Chop" actually looks to be the purse of a woman on the sidewalk. The image is from the Martin film. Jack, who was known as Mr. Rohrshach Test of the JFKA, claimed JFK's hand was inside Lamp Chop!

Below the image is the relevant portion of the Martin film. "Lamb Chop" is CLEARLY the purse of a woman on the sidewalk.

I swear to God, just when you think this stuff can't get any nuttier ...

    (1) Do you know what "Lamb Chop" looks like?  (2) We can see a BLACK NOSE, BLACK EYES, and a FLOPPY EAR. (3) Maybe it's the equipment that you are viewing JFK Assassination images on? (4) There are several film frames that make up 29:30. Do you have the ability to view 29:30 frame-by frame? (5) LAMB Chop's dimpled Wool/Fur matches what we are seeing Jackie holding at 29:30. That is nowhere close to what you would see from "flowers".   

Who told him and how do you know about it.

If Ruby was stalking Oswald, why wasn't he in the garage at the time Oswald was supposed to be transferred.

“This is an example of trying to make a point by asking a question. Questions are no evidence. You need to find answers”.  -John Corbett’s response  to me asking the question “where was the Babushka lady film?”🤗

LP--

1. In my youth (I am about your age), I probably was fascinated with the idea of a government JFKA cover-up. And the JFA research community was dominated by lefties, so there was a tsunami of ideologically-fueled literature in that regard. I read a lot. 

2. Who doesn't like a good detective story?

3. Later, I became disenchanted with the whole JFKA genre, which had become a platform---I posted often "the ideology writes the agenda, and the agenda writes the narrative." One reason I was banned from Ed Forum. This ideology as history reached an apex of sorts in James Douglass' writings, and dominates the Ed Forum to this day.

4. I see both LN'ers and CT'er weighing evidence from their premises. Arguing like lawyers in court, or PR touts, not like independent analysts.

5. Even later I became outright disgusted with the JFKA research community, which for years had made Vietnam the central issue fueling the JFKA, then decide it was really Israel, working with James Jesus Angleton, who had waxed JFK.
The agenda writes the narrative.

6. But in pondering matters, and the plasticity of JFKA narratives, I reexamined the case, and concluded the WC had in fact settled on the LN narrative early on, under instructions from LBJ to avoid a nuke war with Russia. A reasonable  enough caution.

7. Ironically, the JFKA field being run by lefties, the JFKA narrative inking LHO back to G2 and KGB had rarely been examined---the very narrative LBJ had nixed back in 1963-4.

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Based upon my (admittedly layman's) review of the Z-film, and related testimony, and Gov. JBC's injuries, I concluded to my satisfaction that there is a high probability of two shooters behind the JFK limo, and a smoke-and-bang-show perp at the GK.

So, three perps. More than that? Not necessary. Could have been LHO, and a couple hotheads from G2 or Alpha 66, and G2 had penetrated Alpha 66. That's my best guess.

Like you, the JFKA for me now is just something to write about.

I take no umbrage at other viewpoints.

Was Oswald a double agent ?

In his own mind he may have been a triple agent but in reality, a KGB-controlled double agent.