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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 11:45:38 AM »
;D You're quite amusing.
You're like a Tinfoil Nutter.
If you ever feel like doing any actual research (rather than just swallowing down the WC report like a good little boy) Pat Speer's website is an invaluable resource.
Have a look through the numerous statements Connally gave about the shooting and you will see how unreliable he is as a witness to the event (not that he isn't trying to be totally honest). Here's a small selection regarding the right turn you put so much emphasis on:

(11-27-63 televised interview with Martin Agronsky, transcript printed in the 11-28-63 New York Times.) ”we had just turned the corner, we heard a shot; I turned to my left—I was sitting in the jump seat. I turned to my left to look in the back seat—the President had slumped. He had said nothing. Almost simultaneously, as I turned, I was hit...

His very first statement on the matter made days after the event...he heard the shot and turned to his left!!
Hmmmm...
He appears to recall turning to his left and seeing JFK"slumped". Something not shown in the Z-film.

(12-13-63 FBI report on a 12-11 interview, CD188, p. 3-5)  "I instinctively turned to my right to look back and as I did so I sensed more than I saw that President Kennedy was hit."

Now he turns to his right "to look back".
This is not what we see in the Z-film. He looks to his right at the crowds on the street but he doesn't try to look back

(2-3-64 Associated press article reporting on Connally's comments at the annual Associated Press Texas managing editors meeting)  'I looked back over my right shoulder and could not see the President, so I turned to look over my left shoulder. I never completed that second turn when I got hit.

Wowser!!
In this one he actually looks back over his right shoulder. Something definitely not shown in the Z-film

As for how quick the shooting was...this is from the December FBI report:

When Governor Connally was asked about the elapsed time between the first and last shot he remarked “Fast, my God it was fast. It seemed like a split second. Just that quick” and he snapped his fingers three times rapidly to illustrate the time and said “unbelievably quick…"

Do some research and you won't come across as a buffoon.

I treat JBC just like I treat any other witness. He is as subject to memory fallibility just as much as any witness. I do not accept everything he has said as factual. I accept the things he said that can be corroborated and I reject the things he has said that are refuted by the Z-film. Zapruder's camera was the only perfect witness.
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DO-

I don't think JBC is laying down in Nellie's lap at Z-295.

For example, this is Z-298:



https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z298.jpg

And Z-309



https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z309.jpg

Even at Z-320 JBC is not yet down into Nellie's lap.

That's my layman's take on what I see in the Z-film.






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What a crazy war: I just happened to watch a BBC segment on the Africans who have been recruited by Russia to fight against Ukraine. The BBC interviewed a handful who have been captured by Ukraine. It was like listening to a bunch of clueless Zulu tribesmen. They were, of course, lured by Russia's promises and it wasn't clear that they even understood they would be fighting against Ukraine. But they all said that when released they would return to Russia rather than the hellholes they came from. Oh, yes, Mother Russia will welcome you with open arms and full military honors, you clueless Zulu dupes.

Dear Fancy Pants Rants,

"Africans"?

"A bunch of Zulu tribesmen"?

You sound kinda racist, Fancy Pants Rants.

Are you a racist, Fancy Pants Rants?

-- Tom
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   Thanks. You basically believe Shelley and Lovelady lied in their WC Testimonies.
   Your having Lovelady and Shelley go through the TSBD front door and then walk back to the freight elevator, throws off the WC timeline of Truly and Baker going back there. And likewise, Baker then confronting Oswald inside the 2nd floor lunchroom. You are resetting those timelines.

No, read the post again.
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LP--

I only know what I read and see online.

Russia is losing, and by losing I mean they are taking huge losses, and gaining nothing.

Putin is a madman. No one was planning to invade Russia anyway.
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There is NO "ESTIMATE" placed alongside the "% Counted" numbers released by the State Of California. The "% Counted" is a Hard Number just like the running Vote Totals for each candidate. Calif claims that 80% of VOTES are RECEIVED BY MAIL. This means the total votes for PRATT and HILTON on election night were 80% MAIL IN BALLOTS. Hilton was leading and Pratt running 2nd on Election night with 80% of their vote totals that night being RECEIVED BY MAIL. Now, all the sudden the MAIL IN BALLOTS are seeing them losing better than 2-1? This defies the election day math. And there was OVER 50% counted on Election DAY. This is flat out Election Fraud, and the basic math supports that claim.

Dear Royell,

Maybe you're just a fascist and you project your character faults onto people who aren't fascists?

-- Tom
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The JFKA has become only a prop with which to promote one's demented ideologies and ethnic hatreds.

You're the exception, right?
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LP-

Indeed, the (dis)Education Forum is gushing with new found vigor for fresh, evolved and endlessly convoluted JFKA CT's, with some positing the Nazis and Mossad actually got along, in the postwar era.

I guess, with the Jeffries post, the (dis)Education Forum is now open to threads on any topic, as long as Israel and the US are the bad guys.

The JFKA has become only a prop with which to promote one's demented ideologies and ethnic hatreds.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Zeon Mason on Yesterday at 05:23:46 AM »
So Norman under the window and JC being hit in the car basically corroborate each other with description of 3 shits  fired in less than 5 secs.

Maybe the shooter was using a rifle like the Rifleman Chuck Connors which could explain Norman hearing the click click sound while also recalling 3 shots fired quicker than could be probably fired using an MC rifle.

It might explain Will Fritz picking up shells from
the the SN floor BEFORE they were photographed, carrying then around for a while and  he returns later, placing them back down in position as seen in the photographs.
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As we all know, the CIA was the primary organizer of the [JFK assassination].

Dear Fancy Pants Rants,

By "the CIA" do you mean the regular CIA, or the KGB-controlled CIA?

You've never heard of Bruce Leonard Solie, Leonard V. McCoy, or Russia-born George Kisevalter, have you.

No wonder you're so ignorant.

-- Tom
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