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No one said there were distinct echoes.

How else are we to explain why several witnesses reported hearing four or more shots, and why so many people disagreed about where they had come from?

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We know Lawrence / Donaldson wasn’t standing anywhere near where she was in "The Lost Bullet."

Regardless, she was standing about 30 feet away -- in the street in front of the TSBD entrance -- and had an excellent view down Elm Street.

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So, I am not sure how you conclude that she got the position of the limo at the time of the first shot right.

I said basically right, i.e., that the limo had, shortly before the first shot, straightened out on Elm Street.
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Buddy Walthers seen in this Murray photo, the TSBD clock shows 12:40 pm

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The Tague shot caused some problems for the WC. They seemed to treat the Tague shot as a LHO miss, not a ricochet. I gather the HSCA subscribed to this also.

There are witness accounts of a bullet strike on the asphalt behind the JFK limo, and of one near the Elm Street curb, near a manhole.

Like everyone says, witness accounts.....

The Tague shot seems to hold water, as the FBI tested the apparent bullet strike on the curb, and found lead.

Also Tague reported the strike contemporaneously.

If the Tague shot was a straight shot from LHO, it indicates one shot passed yards and yards over the top on the JFK  limo.
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Some interesting recent commentary by a leading member of the (dis) Education Forum:

"LBJ ordered the USS Liberty set up in an isolated position so Moshe Dayan and the IDF could sink it so the crime could be blamed on Egypt so LBJ would have a pretext to militarily attack and remove Nasser from power. I don't think LBJ originally had plans to nuke Cairo, rather I think his extreme recklessness almost caused that result which would have ended up with the Russians nuking Israel as a response.

I don't think you know just how much in bed LBJ was with Zionist Jews in the USA and Israel. LBJ was their Superman Zionist supporter and Israel would never IN A MILLION YEARS INTENTIONALLY ATTACK AN AMERICAN SHIP unless they had BEEN ORDERED TO DO SO BY LYNDON JOHNSON PERSONALLY."


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You may wonder what the 1967 USS Liberty ship disaster---a horrible friendly fire incident---has to do with the JFKA. Well, in truth, nothing.

But it is a topic of recurrent interest in the (dis)Education Forum, where the attack is understood by all to have been intentional by the Jewish state of Israel. Sometimes LBJ in involved. By one account, LBJ had four jets en route, loaded with a-bombs, to nuke-drop on Cairo, but the attack was called off when the incompetent Israelis didn't actually sink the USS Liberty.

Jeff Morley-men have been beating this drum too.

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Given the nature of the beast (Dealey Plaza created different echoes in different places; people were affected differently by the trauma and chaos they experienced), very few witnesses to the assassination got everything right.
No one said there were distinct echoes.  There were too many different surfaces reflecting sound so the rifle shots sound would have reverberated, probably for more than a second before the reflections died out.

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Donaldson at least got the position of the limo basically correct, and from where she was standing, she probably did hear two very close-together echoes.
The car was placed there by Holland.  In the film, she was not asked where she was standing.  We know she wasn’t standing anywhere near there.  So I am not sure how you conclude that she got the position of the car at the time of the first shot right..
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Cancellare Crop showing Haygood standing on the overpass wall.

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Ask PJC to post his video series on the Zionist Clean Towel Service JFK assassins here in this forum, one by one.

PJC did so at the (dis)Education Forum, where William Neidernut, "moderator," pointed an approving boner. Neidernut is an anti-Semitic crackpot, so he ate this stuff up...and censored negative commentary.

Without Neidernut's censorship regime I wonder what reaction the PJC videos would get.
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Haygood seen in Bond at the underpass wall.

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Haygood standing on the overpass wall.



More motorcycle cops near the underpass.

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