Recent Posts

Recent Posts

Pages: 1 ... 5 6 [7] 8 9 10
61
LHO was recruited by elements of the Dixie mafia and the KKK in Biloxi, Mississippi. The recruitment work was done by a Mississippi based soldier of Carlos Marcello who had connections in the Biloxi underworld.

Anyone got any info that would substantiate this claim? What do you think of this idea?
 
62
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Royell Storing on December 02, 2025, 05:25:32 PM »
Because it's a scientific fact that it takes most people about a second to consciously react to an unexpected loud sound, and because photos and films, unlike human beings, don't tend to have faulty memories of sudden and traumatic events.

   Please Post the EVIDENCE that supports your claiming, "....it's a SCIENTIFIC FACT that it takes MOST people ABOUT a second to consciously react to an unexpected loud sound.......". The generalizations, "Most" and "About", do Not sound "Scientific".
63
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Charles Collins on December 02, 2025, 04:29:11 PM »
   You make an excellent point with respect to viewing the Zapruder Film at real speed. People look at the Z Film frame-by-frame and lose track of how quickly everything happened. Basically, the frame-by-frame viewer loses "context".


Exactly, and I am sometimes as guilty of this as anyone else might be. But I have learned each time it happened and am less prone to this these days compared to the past.
64
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Royell Storing on December 02, 2025, 04:08:13 PM »
if you're correct about Connally's turning to his right to try to catch a glimpse of JFK in the corner of his eye for such a brief period of time in the mid-140s, it seems strange to me that he would remember that but neither remember turning to his left to check on Nellie right after that, nor turning far to his right, again (and for a much longer time) at Z-170, and for failing to remember that so much time had elapsed (and so many turns had been made) between his original turn to his right in the mid-140s and getting hit by CE-399 around Z-222.

In other words, if your're right, then Connally's recollections of the tragic event were even more messed up than I realized.

   Please tell us more, Dr.
65
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Royell Storing on December 02, 2025, 04:06:46 PM »


You asked me what I thought (my opinion). I have given you my current thoughts. I do not ask you or anyone else to agree with my opinions. If I am the only person who ever believes these things, that is fine with me. I also have evolving opinions as I go along and find more evidence. So these opinions are definitely subject to change. I am not locked into any specific scenarios. I try to keep an open mind about everything.

Regarding your latest revision of your response, I suggest that when we view the Zapruder film at normal speed (real time) we can see how fast these things actually happened. In other words, the amount of time (aka: frames) you are concerned about elapsing is relatively very little real time to form thoughts and react.

   You make an excellent point with respect to viewing the Zapruder Film at real speed. People look at the Z Film frame-by-frame and lose track of how quickly everything happened. Basically, the frame-by-frame viewer loses "context".
66
JFK was under fire from Oswald for 6 seconds.
Then 4 seconds later Hill jumped, while at that same time Hickey fired Hickey's AR15 (an accidental auto burst of at least 4 shots, the last shot hitting JFK in the head).
Hill should have (instead of jumping) grabbed the barrel of Hickey's AR15.

   You claim that SA Hickey fired 4 total shots/bursts: (1) What evidence proves that a total of 4 shots were fired from the AR-15? and, (2) Where did the other 3 shots go?
67
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Andrew Mason on December 02, 2025, 03:17:43 PM »
Because it's a scientific fact that it takes most people about a second to consciously react to an unexpected loud sound, and because photos and films, unlike human beings, don't tend to have faulty memories of sudden and traumatic events.
What scientific studies of witnesses have shown a significant decline in accuracy when witnessing sudden or traumatic events?  And how does a decline in accuracy explain not a single person recalling an early missed shot yet many all recalling a first non-missed shot with similar observations of the effects?
68
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on December 02, 2025, 02:24:03 PM »
We should rename this thread “A Rorschach test approach:  reading head turns to solve the JFK shot sequence.”

To prefer this approach and ignore large bodies of actual evidence as to when the first shot occurred is difficult to understand.

Because it's a scientific fact that it takes most people about a second to consciously react to an unexpected loud sound, and because photos and films, unlike human beings, don't tend to have faulty memories of sudden and traumatic events.
69
Mr. BELIN. On November 22, did you eat inside the building?
Mr. GIVENS. No, sir.

Not surprising you missed this. Givens told Shelley a different story.

Mr. SHELLEY - At one time I think I said I did but Charles Givens was the guy that was eating and he was further on over toward the west side and he was eating a sandwich so he says.
Mr. BALL - Now you say that you thought that you had seen someone had eaten fried chicken that morning?
Mr. SHELLEY - I thought I had; those colored boys are always eating chicken.
Mr. BALL - Do you think you did or do you know?
Mr. SHELLEY - I asked Charles Givens whether it was him that was eating and he said it was a sandwich.
70
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Andrew Mason on December 02, 2025, 02:10:16 PM »
Not really that messed up. All he would have been forgetting was looking to his left towards Nellie. And frankly I do not believe he has ever said that he did look towards her. He still could have been hit around Z223 or Z224 when he began another turn to his left.

We should rename this thread “A Rorschach test approach:  reading head turns to solve the JFK shot sequence.”

To prefer this approach and ignore large bodies of actual evidence as to when the first shot occurred is difficult to understand.
Pages: 1 ... 5 6 [7] 8 9 10