JFK Assassination Forum

Not only was it not a sharp searing pain, Connally said there was no pain at all. Impact is not pain.

Senator Cooper. I wanted to ask you if you were very conscious of the fact -- you were conscious of a shot behind you, you were not aware of any shot from the embankment or overpass. The answer is what?

Governor Connolly. I am not aware of any shots from the overpass, Senator. I might repeat my testimony with emphasis to this extent, that I have all my life been familiar with the sound of a rifle shot, and the sound I heard I thought was a rifle shot, at the time I heard it I didn't think it was a firecracker, or blow out or anything else. I thought it was a rifle shot. I have hunted enough to think that my perception with regard to directions is very, very good, and this shot I heard came from back over my right shoulder, which was in the direction of the School Book Depository, no question about it. I heard no other. The first and third shots came from there. I heard no other sounds that would indicate to me there was any commotion or disturbance of shots or anything else on the overpass.

Senator Cooper. Would you describe again the nature of the shock that you had when you felt that you had been hit by a bullet?

Governor Connolly. Senator, the best way I can describe it is to say that I would say it is as if someone doubled his fist and came up behind you and just with about a 12-inch blow hit you right in the back right below the shoulder blade.

Senator Cooper. That is when you heard the first rifle shot?

Governor Connally. This was after I heard the first rifle shot. There was no pain connected with it. There was no particular burning sensation. There was nothing more than that. I think you would find I think you would feel almost the identical sensation I felt that someone came up behind you and just, with a short jab, hit you with a doubled-up fist just below the shoulder blade.

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MY comment:

Connally was correct in saying that he felt the blow to his back “after I heard the first rifle shot,” because said missing-everything rifle shot had been fired about five seconds earlier at “Z-124” (i.e., at hypothetical Z-124), half-a second before Zapruder resumed filming (after a 17-second pause) at Z-133.

Connally didn't "hear" Oswald's second shot at approximately Z-222 because that's the one that hit him in the back ("feeling like a 12-inch jab") after travelling through JFK's upper back / lower neck.

LOL!

Do you think JFK or Jackie punched JBC in the back right when he heard a shot, as if to say, "How you doin', old boy?"

. Did you press “Post” accidentally??

Dear Robin,

I guess you didn't notice that I'd put "scare quotes" around the number 124.

My writing "Z-124" in quotation marks signifies where the limo would have been in Zapruder if he hadn't paused filming for 17 seconds between Z-132 and Z-133.

If you think it will help you to understand, in the future I'll write "hypothetical Z-124" instead of "'Z-124'".

-- Tom

OK Tom.

Thanks for the Clarification.

So you were talking "hypothetically"

Quote: A few frames before Oswald's first (missing-everything) shot at "Z-124."

What is Oswald shooting at in Frame: Z-124 ?

Dear Robin,

I guess you didn't notice that I'd put "scare quotes" around Z-124.

My writing "Z-124" in quotation marks signifies where the limo would have been in Zapruder if he hadn't paused filming for 17 seconds between Z-132 and Z-133.

If you think it will help you to understand, in the future I'll write "hypothetical Z-124" instead of "'Z-124'".

Do you think that would help?

-- Tom

LOL!

Nice try,

He said it felt as though he'd been hit in the back with a fist.

…In his own accounts of the November 22, 1963, assassination in Dallas (including his autobiography and interviews), he described the impact of the bullet that struck him as feeling like a powerful blow to the back, such as being hit with a fist.

Key quotes include:

From his autobiography excerpt: “In the middle of [sic; about 1/8 of] my turn [back to his left to look over his left shoulder to see if JFK was okay after having tried to do so over his right shoulder, as we can see him trying to do in Z-177], I felt a thud, as if someone had pounded me on the back with a fist, a blow so hard I doubled over.” He noted it was not a sharp, searing pain but a heavy impact, after which he saw blood on his shirt and realized he’d been hit.

Not only was it not a sharp searing pain he said there was no pain at all.  Impact is not pain. Connally said he felt no pain until he reached Parkland. You really should read his testimony (4 H 145)



When he arrived at Parkland he tried get up and then experienced pain.  It was excruciating pain and hecollapsed.

This description is frequently cited in discussions of the Warren Commission’s single-bullet theory, as Connally initially thought the first shot (which hit President Kennedy) had missed everyone, and he didn’t immediately realize he’d been wounded until feeling that impact (widely interpreted as the second shot). The Zapruder film timing and his reactions have been debated, but his wording about the “fist” sensation is consistent across his testimony and recollections.

I agree that he did not realize he was wounded and it wasn’t until the second shot impact that he realized he had been hit. But I didn’t think you agreed that he was wounded before the second shot.

This comes directly from Connally’s own words, not secondhand reports.

Yes. That is why it is good to actually read the sources and not just rely on AI.

Nellie said he recoiled (4 H 147):



One might expect to see sudden fairly uniform movement of the body from such an impact - movement that is not associated with any muscle movement. Where does that occur?