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The issue of Prayer Man is one of those issues that does not lend itself to being resolved in a few replies in a debate forum thread. To gain a sufficient understanding of the issue, you need to take the time to read the extensive research that has been done on it, and then make up your own mind. Below I provide numerous links to much of this research.

Anyone who is genuinely interested in the issue of Prayer Man should first consider the impressive evidence that Oswald was not on the sixth floor during the shooting. This evidence does not prove that Prayer Man is Oswald, but it does show this is a possibility, not to mention the obvious fact that it proves Oswald did not fire shots from the sixth-floor window.

A part of this impressive evidence is the eyewitness testimony that proves that Oswald did not come down the stairs from the sixth floor after the shots were fired. Researchers have found proof that the Warren Commission (WC) was aware of this fact but suppressed it by misrepresenting what a key witness said, by destroying the tape of the interview with that witness, and by suppressing a bombshell memo that researcher Barry Ernest discovered at the National Archives in 1999. I quote from the transcript of the 2021 documentary JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass:

Barry Ernest: I was interested in finding a specific witness to the assassination, which was Victoria Adams. She worked on the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, and she knew Oswald. I went to the National Archives searching for her original testimony. I was told that the tape containing her testimony was missing. And later I learned that that tape had been destroyed by the Warren Commission. And so I finally ended up finding her and getting her side of the story.

Vicki Adams was twenty-two at the time of the assassination, and she testified that immediately after the assassination, she ran down the back stairs to get outside to see what was going on. If that were true, she would have seen Oswald on the back stairs. But she testified that she saw and heard no one.

She had realized that something was wrong, because no one was believing her. So she asked David Belin, who was questioning her, [to] interview Sandra Styles, a coworker who went down the stairs with her. This became a rather serious problem for the Warren Commission, because discrediting one woman was easy to do. But discrediting a corroborating witness -- that may have been a little bit tougher. So Belin said, “we don’t need Sandra Styles, we have you. . . .”

According to Vicki’s original FBI testimony, she left the window on the fourth floor within fifteen to thirty seconds of the assassination. The Warren Commission elevated that time to one minute. She said she arrived on the first floor within sixty seconds of the assassination. The Warren Commission elevated that time to several minutes. So what the Warren Commission did was successfully deceive the public into thinking that Vicki was just another confused witness. Case closed. . . . .

But in 1999, I found a document in the National Archives that had been suppressed for thirty-five years, it was a letter written by Assistant US Attorney Martha Jo Stroud. It was a transmittal letter forwarding Vicki’s signed testimony to J. Lee Rankin, the head honcho of the Warren Commission’s investigation at that point. In the last paragraph of that letter, almost as an afterthought, we’re introduced to a woman by the name of Dorothy Garner. Garner was Vicki’s immediate supervisor who had stood at the window with Vicki. The letter quotes Garner as saying that she saw Vicki go down the stairs before she saw Officer Baker and Roy Truly come up.

When I found and interviewed Dorothy Garner, she confirmed everything. She said that she had been at the window with Vicki, that Vicki had left the window immediately, that she actually followed Vicki outside the office and to a point where she could see her going down the stairs. And during that whole time, she never saw Oswald. So the Stroud letter became a very dangerous document for the Warren Commission.

Narrator: Without the Review Board’s declassification process, we would never have learned of the corroborating testimony of three witnesses that provide powerful evidence that Oswald was not on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting. (JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass , Skyhorse Publishing, 2021, pp. 46-49)


Sources on the evidence that Oswald was not on the sixth floor during the shooting:

“Where Was Oswald During the Shooting?”
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12wAiq3B9Sc1BfBc7qay2vYswNrcQY_Rt/view

Barry Ernest’s website
https://thegirlonthestairs.wordpress.com/

Review of Barry Ernest’s book The Girl on the Stairs
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/ernst-barry-the-girl-on-the-stairs

Here is the Prayer Man research that I recommend:

Andrej Stancak:

“Extracting Prayer Man from the Wiegman Film”
https://thejfktruthmatters.wordpress.com/2024/11/28/extracting-prayer-man-from-the-wiegman-film/

“The Timing of Wiegman Film and Altgens6 Photograph Questions the Continuity of Frames in Zapruder Film"
https://thejfktruthmatters.wordpress.com/2023/04/10/the-timing-of-wiegman-film-and-altgens6-photograph-questions-the-continuity-of-frames-in-zapruder-film/

“Symptoms of Foreknowledge”
https://thejfktruthmatters.wordpress.com/2021/03/28/symptoms-of-foreknowledge/

“What Does Prayer Man’s Body Language Tell Us about His State of Mind?”
https://thejfktruthmatters.wordpress.com/2020/11/30/what-does-prayer-mans-body-language-tell-us-about-his-state-of-mind/

“Predicting Prayer Man’s Body Height Using the 7 1/2 Rule”
https://thejfktruthmatters.wordpress.com/2018/05/06/predicting-prayer-mans-body-height-using-the-7-1-2-rule/

Responses in “Prayer Man More Than a Fuzzy Picture” Education Forum thread
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/2/#findComment-510095
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/3/#findComment-510315
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/4/#findComment-510478
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/5/#findComment-510682

Greg Doudna:

“Prayer Man More Than a Fuzzy Picture: Some Comments on Prayer Man That May Be New in Support of Bart Kamp’s Book’s Thesis”
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/17/#findComment-515283

“Prayer Man More Than a Fuzzy Picture: Roy E. Lewis, "Last One Out Front", Standing at the Top of the Front Entrance”
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/21/#findComment-515848

Responses in “Prayer Man More Than a Fuzzy Picture” Education Forum thread on the issue of Oswald’s buying a Coke, when he ate lunch, and the Baker-Oswald encounter
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/21/#findComment-515858
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/21/#findComment-515883
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/22/#findComment-515945
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/22/#findComment-516009
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/23/#findComment-516021
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/12/#findComment-514833
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/12/#findComment-514856
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/12/#findComment-514888
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/15/#findComment-515172

David Josephs:

Responses in “Prayer Man More Than a Fuzzy Picture” Education Forum thread
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/3/#findComment-510189
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/3/#findComment-510334
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/4/#findComment-510454
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/5/#findComment-510605
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/5/#findComment-510621

Bart Kamp:

Bart Kamp’s website
https://www.prayer-man.com/

Bart Kamp’s book Prayer Man: More Than a Fuzzy Picture
https://www.amazon.com/Prayer-Man-More-Fuzzy-Picture-ebook/dp/B0CD9GB83W/ref=sr_1_7?crid=2F84IJBF04IO&keywords=prayer+man&qid=1691144930&sprefix=prayer+man%2Caps%2C745&sr=8-7

Bart Kamp’s 2015 presentation “Prayer Man Is Lee Harvey Oswald”

Interviews with Bart Kamp on the Opperman Report and Out of the Blank podcasts
https://www.spreaker.com/episode/prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture--57507025
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Can't figure out how to produce a URL from the images in my "Photos" file...

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Possible Alternatives. ( Excluding Imgur )

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DiEugenio wrote:


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I would also have to cast a vote for the Kelley, Murphy thread that ended up being about Prayer Man.

That discussion ended up being a milestone in the history of this forum. And it was a long one.

It really altered some perspectives.  To think that the early researchers spent all that time on Lovelady and ignored PM.

I eventually found someone who tried to get to Garrison about this.  Bart Kamp mentions him on his encyclopedic site.  But that was about it for the early research on this issue. 


It is incredibly dishonest for DiEugenio to enter the general view he does above while ignoring what a trainwreck of farce and threat to the integrity of JFK research this theory was and his contribution to it...After all that occurred with this infamous subject he is still pointing to Prayer Man, giving it merit, and ignoring the serious problems it caused...And to add insult to injury, Kamp is given a positive word...As if none of what is in this thread had ever happened...A little banning and censorship can go a long way and Jim D doesn't miss a lick...
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Can't figure out how to produce a URL from the images in my "Photos" file...


The Davidson "High Key Filter" enlargement of Prayer Man in the 6th Floor Museum copy of Darnell shows Stanton's dress neckline and ends the issue...So much so that anyone who pursues Congress in order to prove Prayer Man is Oswald is guilty of incompetence and pursuing already-disproven evidence...The image is so obviously Stanton's dress neckline that Larsen was forced to invent the silly lie that it was a CIA forgery...Evidence-wise you cannot go from Davidson's "High Key Filter" image proof to Oswald being Prayer Man - which is why the Prayer Man people are avoiding obtaining the 6th Floor Museum's 1st generation copy...   


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I cannot navigate the image posting for some reason...

Look above the empty Posting Box and you will see this icon,

Place the URL of the Image you wish to post between the [img] tags and Bob's your Uncle.

Do not post images hosted by Imgur.
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You're now painfully in denial. It takes time to remove the scales from your eyes. But it is currently happening.

Dear Storm Trooper Storing,

I have no idea what you're talking about.

It sounds as though you're hallucinating.

Seek help.

-- Tom
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Dear Storm Trooper Storing,

That's a suggestion I refuse to accept.

-- Tom

   You're now painfully in denial. It takes time to remove the scales from your eyes. But it is currently happening.
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Yes, I understood your post above. It is difficult for you to openly admit, but you are now considering who those two guys might have been.

Dear Storm Trooper Storing,

That's a suggestion I refuse to accept.

-- Tom
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Dear Storm Trooper Storing,

I guess reading comprehension isn't your forte.

You posted:

"[The Darnell clip] clearly shows Lovelady still standing on the TSBD Steps as Officer Baker runs across the Elm Street Extension."

I replied:

"'Clearly,' my you-know-what."

-- Tom

   Yes, I understood your post above. It is difficult for you to openly admit, but you are Now considering who those "2 Guys" might have been.
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