You haven't read Belzer and Wayne's chapter on the Pitzer case, have you?
Yes, Pitzer had been accepted for an associate professor position at a local college. Most people would consider that to be a good job, a very good job. Between his teaching salary and his Navy retirement pay, Pitzer would have been quite comfortable. So, why would he have suddenly shot himself? I notice you provided no motive for his alleged suicide.
So Pitzer supposedly used his left hand "to steady the gun by wrapping it over the top of the cylinder"? Oh, please. Give me a break. Why would he not have simply held the revolver in his right hand, put up against his head, and pulled the trigger? That's how suicidal people usually shoot themselves in the head. But, nah, you've got Pitzer "wrapping" his left hand "over the top of the cylinder" so you can explain the paraffin test results (no GSR on either side of his right hand).
Yes, the heel print could have been from a first responder, but we don't know whose print it was because the FBI did not bother to check it. The FBI could have easily checked the shoes of the first responders to determine if one of them made the heel print, but they didn't.
No, I did not misrepresent the distance of the shot per the FBI report. It said, "the revolver must have been held at a distance of more than 3 ft when discharged."
I notice you snipped and ignored the fact that Pitzer wrote himself a note to remind him to return the revolver that he had signed out. Humm, now that's hardly what you'd expect from a guy who planned on using the revolver to shoot himself.
Regarding the FBI's failure to find any evidence that Pitzer had obtained ammo for the revolver, you say, "he could have obtained it anywhere, paid cash, and no one would have remembered him buying it." So when the FBI showed a photo of Pitzer to local gun shops and asked if he had bought ammo, no would have recognized him, even though he would have bought the ammo fairly recently? Yeah, of course.
And why in the devil would he have bought the ammo himself when he could have checked out ammo from the security office when he signed out the revolver?
Pitzer's family and friends rejected the suicide story. They noted that Pitzer was mentally and emotionally tough and not the kind of person to let problems get him down.
Pitzer was literally just a few days away from retiring from the Navy. And, again, he had a good job lined up. His family said he was "very cheerful" that morning.
Pitzer's wife reported that Navy officials threatened her with the loss of her husband's Navy pension if she didn't accept the suicide verdict and "keep her mouth shut."
You question whether Pitzer was ever warned to keep quiet about his knowledge of the JFK autopsy, yet even Heiner admits this happened.
It's just sad that you folks would desecrate a man's life by claiming he killed himself when the evidence indicates he did not -- and all because you can't bring yourselves to admit there was an organized campaign to kill certain JFKA witnesses, even though a decorated Army Special Forces officer reported that a CIA man approached him about killing Pitzer.
MG: You haven't read Belzer and Wayne's chapter on the Pitzer case, have you?Why would anyone read it when they've read Eaglesham and Palmer and the FOIA documents?
MG: Yes, Pitzer had been accepted for an associate professor position at a local college. Who said he was going to be an "associate professor?" Or any other kind of professor? I'm not even sure if community colleges have tenured professors. My own dad, who also was retired from the military after 20 years, taught in a community college for years, and never considered himself a professor, assistant or otherwise. Anyway, this is just a red herring to divert attention away from Dennis David's false claim that Pitzer had the fabulous lucrative TV network job waiting for him.
MG: So Pitzer supposedly used his left hand "to steady the gun by wrapping it over the top of the cylinder"?Yep. As I said, it's been known to happen. IIRC, Eaglesham and Palmer also went over this.
MG: Yes, the heel print could have been from a first responder, but we don't know whose print it was because the FBI did not bother to check it. The FBI could have easily checked the shoes of the first responders to determine if one of them made the heel print, but they didn't. They didn't because it wasn't distinct enough to be used for definitive comparison. Says so in their report.
MG: No, I did not misrepresent the distance of the shot per the FBI report. It said, "the revolver must have been held at a distance of more than 3 ft when discharged." I didn't say you misrepresented the distance mentioned in the FBI report. I said that you misrepresented the evidence. Some FBI agent attributed the lack of powder tattooing to a distant shot (in this case a distant shot from over 3' away). However, the local ME reported that there was a muzzle imprint ("muzzle marks") at the wound site. The muzzle imprint indicates that the muzzle was against the skin when the gun was fired. Again, this would account for the lack of power tattooing, since the GSR follows the bullet into the wound, and can't spread and scatter on the surface of the skin around the entry site. But you say you've read extensively about GSW forensics, so you would already know this, right?
MG: I notice you snipped and ignored the fact that Pitzer wrote himself a note to remind him to return the revolver that he had signed out. Humm, now that's hardly what you'd expect from a guy who planned on using the revolver to shoot himself.Pitzer checked out the revolver weeks before he died to use as an instructional prop during, along with the .38 Special blank rounds found in the revolver and on the desk.
His state of mind when he checked out the gun would not then be expected to reflect his state of mind the night he died.
MG: Regarding the FBI's failure to find any evidence that Pitzer had obtained ammo for the revolver, you say, "he could have obtained it anywhere, paid cash, and no one would have remembered him buying it." So when the FBI showed a photo of Pitzer to local gun shops and asked if he had bought ammo, no would have recognized him, even though he would have bought the ammo fairly recently? Yeah, of course.Where, exactly, does it say that the FBI went to every gun store in the area with a photo of Pitzer? And, BTW, to be complete, in 1966, the FBI search would have needed to include gun stores, sporting goods stores, many department stores, and even many hardware stores. Ammunition was more widely available in those days. Think of the number of stores we're talking about within a reasonable radius of Bethesda, Maryland. I seriously doubt that the FBI went to that much trouble.
MG: And why in the devil would he have bought the ammo himself when he could have checked out ammo from the security office when he signed out the revolver? Again, the revolver was checked out weeks before for purposes other than suicide...and it did come with ammunition, albeit blanks.
Pitzer's family and friends rejected the suicide story. They noted that Pitzer was mentally and emotionally tough and not the kind of person to let problems get him down.Men tend to be stoic, not letting show the demons gnawing on their souls, and their suicides can and do come as a surprise as a result.
Pitzer was literally just a few days away from retiring from the Navy. And, again, he had a good job lined up. His family said he was "very cheerful" that morning. People who are about to commit suicide often exhibit a cheerful, happy, even serene demeanor in the hours, days, even weeks before taking their own lives. After all, they've come to a decisive solution of all of the problems eating away at them, and that can bring tremendous, if incongruous, peace of mind. I saw this happen with a friend of mine who shot himself about 20 years ago.
Pitzer's wife reported that Navy officials threatened her with the loss of her husband's Navy pension if she didn't accept the suicide verdict and "keep her mouth shut."Lance has already dealt with this. It's a misstatement of what she'd actually said.
You question whether Pitzer was ever warned to keep quiet about his knowledge of the JFK autopsy, yet even Heiner admits this happened. Red herring. How would Heiner have known, since he wasn't there?
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to this thread. Up until your "contributions" were added to it, this was an exceptionally informative and interesting thread.