JFK Assassination Forum

If Oswald made the dent then that would have to have been with his first shot (at about) Z105.
Oswald's second (ie final) shot at Z218 was the magic bullet & could not have made the dent.

I suppose that a pointed full metal jacket AR15 slug might have made a hole in the chrome & in the underlying steel frame.
A hollow point slug would be very hot at short range (say 22 ft). And a spinning hot slug would i think possibly emit a bit of lead before it even reached the chrome, due to centrifugal force, acting on the hot skin, depending on the thickness of any copper coating (just thinking out loud).

  It's my understanding that the "1st Shot" is alleged to be the "Lost Bullet" that also resulted in the curb strike/Tague cheek scuffing. The ding in the chrome stripping would therefore be the aftermath of shot #3/Head Explosion.

  Let's be clear. It was a sunk "DRUG" Boat. It was Not an ordinary, "The Old Man and the Sea", "boat" as claimed. STOP misrepresenting the craft that was sunk.

Full meltdown mode, as expected.
For the THIRD time:

Do you agree that a partially eaten piece of chicken was found on top of the Sniper's Nest?
Now...here's the big one - Do you agree that a small lunch sack was also found on top of the Sniper's Nest?

Have a closer read of Shelley's testimony, Jack.
He is, basically, asked if he saw anyone eating chicken on the 6th floor on the day of the assassination. It's a Yes or No answer.
His reply could not be more vague - he might have, perhaps, maybe said that to unnamed someone at some unspecified time. But it turns out Givens, the man that Shelley thinks perhaps might have been eating fried chicken WASN'T eating fried chicken at all and that it was further west in the building than where the lunch remains in the third aisle were discovered.
So it couldn't have been Given's lunch remains found ON TOP of the Sniper's Nest even if they were Givens' lunch remains.

According to Shelley, Givens had his lunch at 9:30 IN THE MORNING, which is utter nonsense.
Givens had his lunch at lunch time and he was stood outside the building when he had it:

Mr. BELIN. I want to backtrack a minute before we come to the shots. When did you eat lunch?
Mr. GIVENS. When did I eat lunch? I ate lunch after. Let’s see, no; I ate lunch before I went up there, because I stood outside and ate my sandwich standing out there.
Mr. BELIN. You ate your lunch outside?
Mr. GIVENS. Yes, sir. Standing in front of the building.
Mr. BELIN. In front of what building?
Mr. GIVENS. Texas School Book.
Mr. BELIN. Did you ever eat any lunch inside the building?
Mr. GIVENS. Yes, sir ; I eat inside the building all the time.
Mr. BELIN. On November 22, did you eat inside the building?
Mr. GIVENS. No, sir.

There is no uncertainty in Given's mind.
He left his lunch in the domino room when he arrived at work and had his lunch at lunch time, stood outside the building.

Your little "two lunches" theory lies in tatters (like most every other theory you propose).
But, just for laughs, kindly explain to the forum how Given's imaginary lunch remains made it all the way over to ON TOP of the Sniper's Nest and where did they disappear to by the time Studebaker arrived on the scene.

This is exactly the response that was expected. The previous posts explain the flaws in your story. There is no reason to keep posting the same information that completely refutes this theory, and then you once again pretend the information doesn’t exist.

Now here you are once again, continually bawling for an answer to some doltish question you have concocted while ignoring the facts of the issue that have already been posted. Instead, whining and hoping for help to salvage this seriously flawed theory.

It seems you are getting worse. These theories have become so increasingly pathetic that you can’t even support them anymore. A little research on your part and you would have known how meritless this theory was before it ever was posted. Maybe the next one, and I am sure there will be one, will be a little more based on reality. You have been told the answer; you just aren’t clever enough to accept it. Instead, pretending the information has not been posted already.

Do you even realize you have postulated, that these detectives had moved a chicken lunch to a new location with no explanation for why they would even do that, or why anyone would even do that, and it somehow makes complete sense to you. Just another made up bizarre Dan O fantasy. The Styles and Adams storyline was pathetic enough but pales in comparison to this conspiracy fantasy. 

MTG-

Yes, but in September, Castro threatened the Kennedy brothers.

"At a diplomatic reception on September 7, 1963, Castro told an Associated Press reporter that if the U.S. was involved in plots against Cuban leaders, their own leaders would not be safe, specifically mentioning John and Robert Kennedy: "Let Kennedy and his brother Robert take care of themselves, since they, too, can be a victim of an attempt that can cause their deaths". This statement gained international attention. The remark occurred amid U.S. covert operations and assassination attempts against Castro. It later contributed to conspiracy theories regarding Cuba's potential role in President Kennedy's assassination in November 1963."

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Then, in November of 1963, the CIA was trying to get Rolanda Cubela to assassinate Castro---problem: Cubela was likely a a false or double-agent. (See Cubela and poison pen stories)

So, likely Castro was aware in November of 1963 that the CIA, under pressure from RFK, was still pondering his assassination. After many previous attempts.

In addition, just as there were elements with the CIA who may have been "rogue," so too in the G2.

Of course, after the JFKA, Castro and G2 would deny involvement. Do you expect Castro to say, "Oh yes, we shot JFK, with a couple of guys and the true Marxist hero LHO!"

The Mexican government report, claiming the Cubans did it, would be an interesting read---why is it not in the public record?

As you know, the WC's mission was to find LHO the lone assassin.

And not a hired or manipulated killer connected to any organization, foreign or domestic.