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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 06:45:21 AM »
Bump with respect to your ever-changing position(s). You've done likewise on other threads too.

Comrade Storing,

I'd rather correct a mistake I've made instead of accumulating them and "building" on them as you have in your Vladimir Putin-approved tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theory.

-- Tom
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I've edited the last part of my post, so please re-read it.

   Bump with respect to your ever changing position(s). You've done likewise on other threads too.
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/what-stalin-s-death-teaches-us-about-conspiracy-theories

What Stalin's Death Teaches Us About Conspiracy Theories 

A very good short video from James Lambert who also produced the documentary, Conspiracy Theorists Lie.

Masha Gessen suggests in her 2013 book, The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin, that the three-day August 1991 coup attempt was planned-to-fail so that the KGB could remain in power.

https://www.amazon.com/Man-Without-Face-Unlikely-Vladimir/dp/1594486514
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TG--

Your astute comments are not un-meaningless.

Have you got any bananas today?

If not, it must be a conspiracy, huh?
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TG--

Your astute comments are not un-meaningless.
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OK, the SBT bullet was obviously not tumbling ... so then what?

I didn't say CE-399 wasn't tumbling between JFK's neck and JBC's back.

This is from the Right Down Your Alley Department:

"Maybe it was."

"Maybe it wasn't."

The important thing is that the so-called Single Bullet Theory doesn't depend on it.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UdKSnTDThh4/Uw3zRDBeDfI/AAAAAAAAx-c/pzqLNRvmd3k/s1600/Zapruder-Film-In-Motion-Clip.gif
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RS-

Thanks for your comments.

I agree DPD'er Smith was told by an eyewitness that shots came from the bushes in the concourse and GK area, and he was investigating. Smith later came across a man who flashed Secret Service credentials. Odd.

There was an entry wound to the dorsal side of JBC's wrist. Hard to explain.

IMHO, the JFKA was nearly an impromptu and ad hoc affair, perped by individuals with no institutional power in the US.

Cubans, either exiles, or G2 assets, or Alpha 66, who had experience in kinetic terror ops---indeed, Antonio Veciana personally tried to blow up Castro with a bazooka. The Alpha 66'ers were chronically livid regarding the BoP.

On the other hand, G2 assets may have been informed by double-agent Ruben Cubela that JFK was still trying to assassinate Castro. Turnabout is fair play.

Somehow the Cubans convinced LHO to play a role in the JFKA. As a devout Marxist, and pro-Castro-ite, perhaps LHO was on board, or perhaps only made into a patsy.

That's about as much as I suspect.
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TG---

No, the SBT is not totally dependent on the "tumbling" bullet undergirding.

But, that is why Michael Baden and Robert Blakey (big dudes at HSCA) said they believed the SBT. And many others.

OK, the SBT bullet was obviously not tumbling...so then what?

And, yes, the entry wound on Gov. JBC's dorsal-side wrist is a puzzler.

One problem: The SBT was devised to explain why two shots did so much damage, and Specter's job was to present the prosecution's case against LHO.

To avoid any hint that KGB, G2, or others might have helped LHO: Specter's job.

The JFKA case against any organization is speculative. If LHO had confederates, they were never apprehended. It could have been anybody.

Possibly Alpha-66. Acting independently. But then G2 had infiltrated many exile organizations.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on December 04, 2025, 11:14:52 PM »
Graves claims to know what Gov Connally was thinking too. His claiming that Connally was turning to his (L) in order to check on Nellie is pure fabrication.

Comrade Storing,

Why did Connally quickly turn far to his right around Z-140, quickly turn to his left around Z-154, quickly turn far to his right around Z-168, and start turning to his left again (when he was hit by CE-399 at Z-222)?



Answer: Because he heard the loud sound "behind and to his right" at "Z-124" and recognized it as a rifle shot.

Regarding why Connally turned quickly to his left around Z-154 (and was captured looking straight ahead by Croft at Z-161), it was Charles Collins' idea that he did so to see if Nellie was okay, and Charles points out the JFK turned his head towards Jackie right before that.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with Charles, not me.

-- Tom
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He was used as a patsy. He was recruited by a Mississippi based Marcello soldier. Oswald's Mother lived in the same town in Mississippi as the Marcello soldier. Clue: Oswald had a fondness for fishing.
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