JFK Assassination Forum

Why does anybody engage with this guy? He and Royell Storing have single handedly made the JFK research world look dumber than any pairing since James Fetzer and Jack White !!

Yet here is Gov. JBC at Z-272 still holding onto the Stetson, after having been shot through the wrst (and the chest).:



Right hand is too high. Bullet goes thru the hat and JC has rotated almost 180 degree around. He would have been hit in the right arm not the back. That the way my eye sees it.

John Mytton, Where are you Superman LN? We need your measuring skills here Lol.

I couldn't find a story to confirm Al Kaline's deferred compensation but I did find this one that said he turned down a raise to become Detroit's first $100,000 a year player because he didn't think he had a good enough season to earn it.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-collectibles/others/1971-al-kaline-signed-detroit-tigers-player-s-contract-and-copy-of-replacement-contract-requesting-a-lower-salary-from-the-al-ka/a/50049-58297.s

Mickey Lolich will always have a special place in the hearts of longtime Tigers fans for his heroic performance in the 1968 World Series when he stole the thunder from Denny McLain and Bob Gibson. He pitched his third complete game victory in game 7 on just two days rest, outdueling Bog Gibson. Lolich was a workhorse in the early 1970s, pitching over 300 innings in four consecutive seasons topped by an astounding 376 innings in 1971, the most by any pitcher since 1917. Wilbur Wood, a knuckleballer, eclipsed him by 2/3 of an inning the following year. Nobody has come close since. Today they think its a big deal if a pitcher throws 200 innings in a year. They pitch every fifth day and they call it a quality start if they pitch 6 innings and give up 3 runs or less. Lolich took the ball every fourth day and more often than not threw a complete game, 29 of them in 1971. Sadly, Mickey passed away this past February.

   Lolich was a lot like Curt Simmons. Simmons never was a 20 game winner, but he was a 1950's workhorse and a big part of the 1950 Phillies "Whiz Kids" team. Simmons was still pitching in 1964 and started 2 World Series games for that championship Cardinal/Gibson team that you guys took down in "68".

Further evidence the Democrat Party is intolerant of anyone showing signs of being sane:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/he-needs-to-go-dems-blast-fetterman-as-trumps-favorite-democrat-after-tie-breaking-dhs-vote/ar-AA1Z4jHD

If you aren't in advanced stages of TDS, or at least pretending you are, you are not welcome in the Democrat Party.

Where is the car in proximity to the window in the 140s?
How do you know a shot in the 140s isn't a firecracker?

The window is only open about 13in - at only about a foot from the floor and covered in boxes.
Did he point the gun straight down?  how could he see? how could that be missed? ...and 120s is just ridiculous 

Also, I don't buy a shaky camera at the sound of shots. It may be actual but not exclusive.
If Sitzman was holding on to him, how do you know any of her movements would not effect the camera?

My objection to a virtual Z124 shot or any other time while Zapruder wasn't filming is that JBC is seen reacting at Z164 when he starts to turn to look over his right shoulder. That's over 2 seconds which seems a rather slow response to me. If the shot was fired at Z148 which is my belief, JBC would have heard the shot at Z150 which is about 3/4 of a second. Neither my belief of a shot at Z148 or the Roselle/Scearce theory of a virtual Z124 shot is an established fact but I think the evidence is much stronger for a Z148 shot. We see the same pattern for the two shots we know struck JFK so a shot at Z148 is consistent with the other two shots. With no definitive evidence of when the first shot was fired, it's the best we can do.

You have identified the difficulty of the first shot whether fired at Z124, Z148, or any early frame in the Z-film. It's a very awkward downward shot with the target moving across the line of fire as opposed to down the line of fire as it was for the subsequent shots. Oswald would likely have had to raise up to fire down that steeply and it's easy to understand why he would completely miss with that shot.