JFK Assassination Forum

I don't think Lattimer was the first to theorize the Thorburn position. I can't remember when I first read it but it's been a long time. I don't think it matters at all whether it was Thorburn or not which is why I don't have a strong opinion about it one way or the other. The shot to the head essentially ended function of his brain and central nervous system. He was technically alive for about another 20 minutes but I doubt he ever had another conscious thought.

Interesting about Bob Artwohl being on Compuserve in 1994. He was a regular on our old Prodigy board in the early 1990s, as was MTG and myself. He started out on the CT team but switched jerseys. He's the only one that I know of who did that. Our Prodigy group broke up when they changed their fee structure to charge for posts beyond a certain number which wasn't very generous. Apparently Bob found a new home at Compuserve. I ended up going to AOL. By the time I joined the McAdams forum in 2008, he was done posting there. I found some of his older posts on the archive but never saw a new post from him.

JFK was hit at Z223-224 approximate if we believe what our eyes are seeing when viewing the Z-film.

That' always a good place to start. Amazing how many people skip that step.

It’s obvious the 6th floor shooter was making stupid decisions, the primary one being to choose to shoot from high elevation at a moving target rather than a place where JFK was a statuary target standing giving a speech. Charlie Kirk was killed with just one shot from 200 YARDS away by an inexperienced leftwing woke  Kook using a .308 rifle with a scope.[/quote\\

I wouldn't second guess Oswald given that he succeeded in what he was trying to do, maybe for the first time in his life. I don't think taking the first shot was a stupid decision. True, he had little chance hitting JFK by taking that shot. He had no chance of hitting JFK if he didn't take that shot.

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So the 1st shot could be Z224 , the 2nd shot 4.8 secs later at Z313 and the 3rd shot 2-3 secs after that aiming at anything particular because either the shooter was the Marxist Kook Oswald or he was a conspirator who for some reason was compelled to choose to shoot from TSBD in order to set up Oswald.

Oswald started with four rounds in his rifle. If he hadn't scored a kill on his third shot, he still would have been able to take a fourth. He determined that wasn't necessary as he saw JFK fall over to his left with a gaping head wound.

JFK was hit at Z223-224 approximate if we believe what our eyes are seeing when viewing the Z-film.

It’s obvious the 6th floor shooter was making stupid decisions, the primary one being to choose to shoot from high elevation at a moving target rather than a place where JFK was a statuary target standing giving a speech. Charlie Kirk was killed with just one shot from 200 YARDS away by an inexperienced leftwing woke  Kook using a .308 rifle with a scope.

So the 1st shot could be Z224 , the 2nd shot 4.8 secs later at Z313 and the 3rd shot 2-3 secs after that aiming at anything particular because either the shooter was the Marxist Kook Oswald or he was a conspirator who for some reason was compelled to choose to shoot from TSBD in order to set up Oswald.

By no means did 75% of the ear witnesses who reported on the spacing of the shots say the last two shots were 1-2 seconds apart. Most did not put a time on the spacing of the last two shots. Many just described the last two as being noticeably closer together than the first two. Most described a pause after the first shot and then two rapid shots. Several said the last two were about two seconds apart (e.g. Robert Jackson: “I guess, two seconds” ; Roger Craig: “no more than two seconds”). Allan Sweatt thought there were 7 seconds between the first and second and 2-3 seconds after that was the third shot.

Okay, let’s say it could be 2-3 secs. If so then Dans 1st shot Z224, 2nd at Z313 and 3rd at 2-3 secs after that is not so implausible since it’s clear that the 6th floor TSBD shooter was either  stupid or was trying to set up Oswald.

1. He chose to shoot at a moving target from 6th floor TSBD. He could have chosen an easier place to shoot at a stationary JFK giving a speech from a much lower elevation thus eliminating changing angles and necessity to constantly be adjusting to track the target. It would have been a much easier one shot one kill.
2. He stuck his rifle out the window for several seconds after firing the 3rd shot. It was spotted by Malcom Couch and Robert  Jackson as much as 5 secs after they heard the last shot.
3. He left 3 shells at the window
4. He may have left a paper bag with Oswald’s palm print on it.
5. He moved several boxes up next to the window which had Oswald prints on them.
3. He left an MC rifle linked to Oswald’s P.O.Box on the 6th floor not really hidden so well.
4. He had to either run down 4 flights of stairs or had to use the west freight elevator to go down to the 2nd floor landing. He could not go all the way down to 1st floor because he would have been seen by Adams, Stiles, Lovelady and Shelley ( the 2 men Baker saw) as he exited the elevator

If he took the west elevator down to 2nd floor landing, thus bypassing Mrs Garner on 4th floor unseen, and he exited from the 2nd floor west window onto the garage rooftop to escape then he was a conspirator who had planned to set to Oswald. Thus all the stupid decisions were required to set up Oswald.

If he took the west elevator to the 2nd floor landing thus bypassing Mrs Garner unseen, and he exited and ran into the 2nd floor lunchroom then he was Oswald and the stupid decisions were because Oswald was a stupid Marxist Kook.

In Either scenario, a 3rd shot fired after Z313 is plausible.

Who watches the evening news? To get viewers, they cover human interest stories.  You said they didn’t cover the Bolton story and, instead of admitting that you were wrong, you double down and change the narrative. Kind of like how you approach the SBT when confronted with the evidence.

Lots of people still get their news the old fashioned way. Because there is a limited window of time, the network news programs have to make editorial decisions about what they think is important. They made the decision that reporting on giraffes and grizzly bears was more important than reporting a negative story about a Trump hater. Gee, I wonder why.