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Oh goody, the amateur hour continues in the most shallow way possible. That's just sad.

The WC explanation wins by default.

This most pathetic comment sums it up nicely what a fool showing his true colors can be like....

The WC report is nothing more than a prosecutorial presentation of an extremely weak circumstantial case. Even worse, it's a political motivated report to bring about a quick explanation to convince the American public. In other words, it's not worth the paper it was written on!

When, as it did for me, the WC explanation falls short of providing a solid case and turns out to be a mere propaganda tool, it can never be a default, except of course for fools who do not understand the first thing they are actually talking about.

Do you really want to expose yourself as an idiot who can not counter any point I have raised? Have at it.... I can only feel sorry for you

You just made my point for me. All you did was take potshots at the WC without offering a better explanation of the evidence, or even one as good, or even one at all. You dismiss the WC as politically motivated without ever refuting the substance of their report or even try to explain how their conclusions don't fit the body of evidence. The WC's conclusions were spot on. Decades of study and advances in technology that wasn't available to the WC have allowed us to fine tune what we know, but it still falls within the parameters the WC provided. The WC did not reach a conclusion about the missed shot, allowing for the miss to be either the first, second, or third shot that missed and even allowed for there to have only been two shots with no misses. Most LNs now believe it was the first shot that missed. The WC found that the single bullet struck between Z210 and Z225. There is a clear consensus that the single bullet struck at or about Z222 and that JFK and JBC both show reactions a few frames later. 3-D computer simulations now have shown us the geometry of the single bullet theory works perfectly. Failure Analysis established a cone from which the single bullet could have been fired and the sniper's nest was in the center of that cone. Dale Myers created a virtual 3-D simulation of Dealey Plaza and showed that JFK and JBC were perfectly lined up for the single bullet to work. All the conspiracy advocates have offered us are 2-D diagrams and that ridiculous courtroom demonstration in Oliver Stone's movie, both of which show JBC directly in front of JFK and facing straight ahead. What they proved is that if you start with a faulty premise, you will likely reach a faulty conclusion. Boy, did they ever.
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Oh goody, the amateur hour continues in the most shallow way possible. That's just sad.

The WC explanation wins by default.

This most pathetic comment sums it up nicely what a fool showing his true colors can be like....

The WC report is nothing more than a prosecutorial presentation of an extremely weak circumstantial case. Even worse, it's a political motivated report to bring about a quick explanation to convince the American public. In other words, it's not worth the paper it was written on!

When, as it did for me, the WC explanation falls short of providing a solid case and turns out to be a mere propaganda tool, it can never be a default, except of course for fools who do not understand the first thing they are actually talking about.

Do you really want to expose yourself as an idiot who can not counter any point I have raised? Have at it.... I can only feel sorry for you

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This most pathetic comment sums it up nicely what a fool showing his true colors can be like....

except of course for fools who do not understand the first thing they are actually talking about.

expose yourself as an idiot

JohnC has been nothing but respectful with you this entire time but as usual when your back is against the wall, you deliver a barrage of insults, this always happens and then when someone matches your energy to give you a taste of your own medicine, like a spoiled child you cry foul, without realizing that since day 1 you have ALWAYS been the instigator. If you want to be treated like an adult, act like an adult!!


Coming from a pathetic loser who always reverts to personal attacks when he can't win an argument, this is funny!

JohnM
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 Stone and Schlanger met at a restaurant in Austin, Texas (iirc), in February 2026 and "hit it off." --TG

Huh? 2026?
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In 35 years of dealing with conspiracy hobbyists, your the first one who I've ever come across who even made an issue about Haygood. What reason would anyone else have had to cook up an explanation for Haygood's movements. You are a cult of one with your fixation about this. Nobody else cares. And nobody else ever will.

   You just saw how important, "That Ain't Haygood", is with the baseless claim now being made that Haygood made a 2nd trip into the railroad yard and that 2nd trip is what Darnell filmed. And you also fail to comprehend the ramifications of an Unknown Motorcycle Cop roaming across the railroad yard immediately after the kill shot.  The entirely baseless claim of Haygood making a 2nd trip into the railroad yard is indicative of a Defcon 1 setting. LN's understand that the fact proven "That Ain't Haygood" discovery is seismic. 
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More silly nonsense. No worse and no better than anything else I've seen from the conspiracy crowd. You simply can't get around the fact that the explanation given by the WC fits the entire body of evidence. It is the only such explanation ever given that does fit the evidence. If there was another plausible explanation, someone from the conspiracy side would have figured it out by now. But of course, that has never happened and it never will. The body of evidence is what it is. After 62 years, you aren't going to add to it. If you and your dwindling cohort can't figure out an alternative explanation for the evidence by now, why should anyone take any of you seriously. All you can do is take potshots at the WC without ever offering anything better or even anything at all. The WC explanation wins by default.

Oh goody, the amateur hour continues in the most shallow way possible. That's just sad.

The WC explanation wins by default.

This most pathetic comment sums it up nicely what a fool showing his true colors can be like....

The WC report is nothing more than a prosecutorial presentation of an extremely weak circumstantial case. Even worse, it's a political motivated report to bring about a quick explanation to convince the American public. In other words, it's not worth the paper it was written on!

When, as it did for me, the WC explanation falls short of providing a solid case and turns out to be a mere propaganda tool, it can never be a default, except of course for fools who do not understand the first thing they are actually talking about.

Do you really want to expose yourself as an idiot who can not counter any point I have raised? Have at it.... I can only feel sorry for you
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I'm not foolish enough to think that an eyewitness recollection trumps forensic evidence.

Neither am I, but in this case there is no forensic evidence to trump. At least not in the real world.

The bag in question had Oswald's palm print on it which would be expected if Oswald carried it cupped in his had as demonstrated by Frazier.

There is no "bag in question". All there is, is a bag that you can not place in Oswald's hand when he walked to the TSBD, except of course for your wishful thinking!

What is typical with eyewitnesses is they get some things right and some things wrong. To determine which they got right and which they got wrong we need to look at how the eyewitness account squares with other evidence.

What "other evidence" would that be? You really need to stop thinking that the bag allegedly found at the 6th floor is somehow the same one Oswald carried on Friday morning, but that won't stop you making up your own reality, right?

and fibers matching the rifle blanket found in the bag,

There you go again with the same old fibers BS. You really have a problem understanding reality, don't you. At best fibers can be similar, but they can not be matched to any particular item. Also, when a bag and a blanket are placed next to each other, there is a serious possibility of cross contamination. In this case the bag and blanket were photographed next to each other at the DPD office and at the FBI lab. In what kind of analysis do you dismiss or ignore possible cross contamination of evidence?

I find it far more compelling to believe the bag Frazier saw and the one found by the sniper's nest are one and the same.

Of course you do. Why look at the actual facts when you can make up your own little story. After all, what you believe must be true, right?

You on the other hand prefer to believe that Frazier's account was spot on and that there were two different bags. Obviously, you can't see how unlikely that would be. 

The likelihood of Frazier's observation about the way Oswald carried the bag being correct is far greater than you would like it to be. You are trying to put a bag, which you can't even prove ever left the TSBD, in Oswald's hand regardless of what the only witness who actually saw it says. I bet you can't even explain how unlikely my opinion is.....

The above paragraph is an example of how one goes about weighing evidence.

Nope, it's a prime example of how you try to fit the evidence to a preconceived conclusion.

I will gladly put my analysis of the situation against yours any day.

Isn't it funny how some people say one thing and their actually actions demonstrate the opposite?

You are not analyzing anything. You are making up stories that fit your own flawed opinions. That's why you are completely unable to defend any of the BS claims you post.

More silly nonsense. No worse and no better than anything else I've seen from the conspiracy crowd. You simply can't get around the fact that the explanation given by the WC fits the entire body of evidence. It is the only such explanation ever given that does fit the evidence. If there was another plausible explanation, someone from the conspiracy side would have figured it out by now. But of course, that has never happened and it never will. The body of evidence is what it is. After 62 years, you aren't going to add to it. If you and your dwindling cohort can't figure out an alternative explanation for the evidence by now, why should anyone take any of you seriously. All you can do is take potshots at the WC without ever offering anything better or even anything at all. The WC explanation wins by default.
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I know you recall several giving testimony that the limousine slowed down to a near halt...
If this was the planned "kill zone" then perhaps the target wasn't moving... or was moving very slowly...
And just one look at Bill Greer rubbernecking up until the fatal shot, strongly suggests he knew exactly what he was supposed to do that day... apply brakes...




It only suggests that to someone with an overly active imagination and too much time on their hands.
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   "Hold any water"? Why do you think the Officer Haygood making a 2nd trip into the railroad yard was suddenly cooked up after 62+ years? It is in response to my have attached a rock solid 12:38 PM Timeline to the Darnell still frame showing Officer Harkness, + Buddy Walthers, + The Alleged Officer Haygood. I have been banging away at the "That Ain't Haygood" issue for 2 yrs now. My recent discoveries of the documented Officer Harkness 12:36 radio transmission, and Inspector Sawyer NOT arriving at the TSBD until 12:35 PM, are the straws that broke this camel's back. "That Ain't Haygood" = Conspiracy has 'em scrambling.

In 35 years of dealing with conspiracy hobbyists, your the first one who I've ever come across who even made an issue about Haygood. What reason would anyone else have had to cook up an explanation for Haygood's movements. You are a cult of one with your fixation about this. Nobody else cares. And nobody else ever will.
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And you're definitely not a researcher whose crazy theories hold any water whatsoever! But keep telling yourself otherwise..

   "Hold any water"? Why do you think the Officer Haygood making a 2nd trip into the railroad yard was suddenly cooked up after 62+ years? It is in response to my have attached a rock solid 12:38 PM Timeline to the Darnell still frame showing Officer Harkness, + Buddy Walthers, + The Alleged Officer Haygood. I have been banging away at the "That Ain't Haygood" issue for 2 yrs now. My recent discoveries of the documented Officer Harkness 12:36 radio transmission, and Inspector Sawyer NOT arriving at the TSBD until 12:35 PM, are the straws that broke this camel's back. "That Ain't Haygood" = Conspiracy has 'em scrambling.   
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That object is definitely not a motorcycle cop's glove.

And you're definitely not a researcher whose crazy theories hold any water whatsoever! But keep telling yourself otherwise..
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