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Your clan would be wise to take it easy on Rather. You tick him off and he will again tell the World what he saw on the Z Film Copy he viewed the weekend of the assassination.

Dear Storm Trooper Storing,

How many times did Rather get to view the Zapruder film on 11/23/63 (or was it the 25th?)?

Just once?

How far did he have to run from where he viewed it to where he spoke on-air about it?

Hundred yards?

More?

Did he say later that he ran as fast as he could, or just kinda jogged?

When he spoke on air that first time, was he reading from notes he had taken, or from memory?

Other than the fact that in the film JFK obviously "clutched his throat" for a few seconds, that JBC obviously turned all the way around and "looked at JFK," that JBC obviously "fell back into Nellie's lap," that a bullet obviously struck JFK in the head, that Jackie obviously climbed onto the trunk, and that Clint Hill obviously ran to the limo from the follow-up car and "pushed her back," is everything else in the Zapruder film pretty easy to understand for someone who's viewing it for the first time, or is it kinda confusing?

Hmm?

-- Tom
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Posner is garbage. Mr. Oswald didn’t know Ferrie, and lied about Boswell.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The girl in blue
« Last post by John Corbett on August 16, 2026, 06:30:12 PM »
Yes, she is one of the best eyewitnesses I have encountered. I sure am glad that she decided to come forward and share her experience.

I have to confess, I had never heard of this woman until reading this thread. I appreciate it when a witness expresses ambiguity regarding something she is unsure of, which is the first shot.
For some reason, that first shot seemed to have a different sound than the succeeding shots which might explain why many didn't recognize it as the sound of a gunshot. Some have suggested the first shot was fired with the rifle muzzle inside the building instead of extended out of the window as it was for the last two shots. My own belief is the roar of four motorcycles accelerating out of the sharp turn had a lot to do with partially muffling that first shot. Her account is consistent with the first shot missing and the next two hitting JFK.
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Nobody cares about a child, unless desperation is the goal.

Children are just as capable or reacting to a gunshot as an adult. It's no something that requires education or experience.
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You misquote Bennett but everyone else is wrong.

I didn't quote Bennett at all. I summarized his report and did so accurately. He heard the first shot. He saw the next two hit JFK. If you disagree with that, your reading comprehension is extremely poor.
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JBC does not support an early missed shot.

He supports the fact the first shot did not hit him. He said he looked over his right shoulder when he heard the first shot which we see him do at Z164, roughly 3 seconds before the shot that hit both him and JFK.
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You already stated you have no idea when the early missed shot took place.

I have a very clear idea when the first shot struck. I have conceded that the evidence is less than definitive but to me it is quite probative.
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How is any of your posts on the assassination shots subject even relevant to any the shots.

You could ask that question of everyone who posts here, including yourself.
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Nobody cares about a child, unless desperation is the goal.
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Rosemary Willis' head turn away from Jackie and JFK and towards the TSBD in Z-141 is telling.

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You misquote Bennett but everyone else is wrong.

Your sentence makes no sense.

Regardless, Glen "Immediately" Bennett wrote on 11/22/63,       
         
"I heard a noise that immediately reminded me of a firecracker. Immediately, upon hearing the supposed firecracker, looked at the Boss's car. At this exact time I saw a shot that hit the Boss about 4 inches down from the right shoulder; a second shot followed immediately and hit the right rear high of the Boss's head."

He should have said, "About 5 seconds after I heard this supposed firecracker, I looked at the Boss's car. It was then that I saw a shot that hit the Boss about 4 inches down from the right shoulder; a second shot followed about 5 seconds later and hit what looked like the right-rear high part of the Boss's head."

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JBC does not support an early missed shot.

Yes, he does.

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You already stated you have no idea when the early missed shot took place. How is any of your posts on the assassination shots subject even relevant to any the shots.

Is English your second language?
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Dan Rather is, was, and always will be a damn liar. The WC never conclude Oswald fired all three shots in under 6 seconds. Posner embraced the same lie in his effort to make it seem that he was setting the record straight. The WC always allowed for the possibility that Oswald took more than 6 seconds to fire his three shots. They found that Oswald fired 3 shots missing JFK with one of those shots but never came to a conclusion as to which of the 3 shots was the miss. The determined that there was no more than 5.6 seconds between the 2 shots that hit JFK and it's only the second shot miss scenario that would require Oswald to fire all 3 shots in 5.6 seconds or less. The reality is there were about 4.9 seconds between the two hits and the missed shot came before those 2 shots. We are able to determine that due to decades of time, millions of eyeballs viewing the Z-film, and technology that wasn't available to the WC.

It will forever be a black mark on Walter Cronkite, Dan Rather, and the entire CBS News organization for having propagated this lie for all these years. Either it was a deliberate lie or extremely sloppy journalism that led them to this conclusion. All they would have had to do to know this wasn't true would be to read the conclusion summary at the end of the chapter that dealt with the 3 shots.

    Your clan would be wise to take it easy on Rather. You tick him off and he will again tell the World what he saw on the Z Film Copy he viewed the weekend of the assassination.
    Rather carries a "Get Outta Jail Free" card. He can Say and Do whatever he wants. Get whatever he wants too. Like Cronkite's chair. Posner? He's Arnold Horshack trying to get attention by glomming onto Dan Rather. Just like Max Holland did with National Geographic. These are Not stand alone individuals nor are the theories they ballyhoo. They are distributing pure "Pulp Fiction".
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hey, Brian…… I’m a-gonna ask the big AI in the sky guy to gather all of your posts, including deep politics forum may it rest in peace, to see what it might come up with
Vis à vis your theories on stuff.  you’re welcome. I’ll post the results, might take a while, but patience builds character, oui?
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There is ample evidence of three shots and we have the testimony of JBC and his observed reaction in the Z-film as well as Rosemary Willis' observed reaction that the first shot was the one that missed. We have the testimony of the three TSBD employees who were right below Oswald when he fired the shots describing 3 shots. We have Agent Glenn Bennett's report that he heard a shot, then turned to JFK and SAW the next two shots hit him. You can deny that until the cows come home but that won't change the reality.

Nobody cares about a child, unless desperation is the goal.

You misquote Bennett but everyone else is wrong.

JBC does not support an early missed shot.

You already stated you have no idea when the early missed shot took place. How is any of your posts on the assassination shots subject even relevant to any the shots.
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      Did that alleged "Oswald family" that showed up at a Texas radio station sing into a can? I think you are confusing the flick, "Oh Brother Where Art Thou?", with the JFK Assassination. A couple aspirin and a nap might help.

“two different people” ??  so John Armstrong was right all along, huh? who knew?
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It is also possible we are both wrong.

Not only is it possible but you, Graves, Meyers, and Holland are wrong.

The whole early missed shot idea is as pathetic as it gets. To start you have to believe the witnesses are all wrong except some weird interpretation of JBC's statements. Not even Nellie, the three witnesses under the SN, all the witnesses along Elm Street, or the Secret Service can be believed. Nobody knows anything but the four clowns, Corbett, Graves, Holland, and Meyers, who seem to want climb into the Early Missed Shot Clown Car, drive around and proclaim damn the evidence we know we are right.

There is ample evidence of three shots and we have the testimony of JBC and his observed reaction in the Z-film as well as Rosemary Willis' observed reaction that the first shot was the one that missed. We have the testimony of the three TSBD employees who were right below Oswald when he fired the shots describing 3 shots. We have Agent Glenn Bennett's report that he heard a shot, then turned to JFK and SAW the next two shots hit him. You can deny that until the cows come home but that won't change the reality.
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