JFK Assassination Forum

    Again, this is YOU/TODD making the claim that Haygood, "could have just borrowed their radios" YOU! Stop trying to blame Barber. If you knew Haygood's WC Testimony, YOU would have never tried to run with it.
    If you did your research and knew the evidence, you would not be disputing that Haygood was back at his motorcycle at 12:35 going forward in time. If you knew the Evidence, YOU would know that Officer Haygood was filmed standing by his motorcycle, there at the (N) Elm curb by Couch. Haygood was filmed by Couch, when Couch made his 2nd trip down Elm St. You obviously do NOT Know the image evidence or the sworn testimony of the main players involved. I have researched this thoroughly. YOU have NOT. How about you seriously bone up on this issue and save me from having to correct you time after time after time?   

RS: Again, this is YOU/TODD making the claim that Haygood, "could have just borrowed their radios" YOU! Stop trying to blame Barber. If you knew Haygood's WC Testimony, YOU would have never tried to run with it.

Well then, exactly where did I ever say this?


RS: If you did your research and knew the evidence, you would not be disputing that Haygood was back at his motorcycle at 12:35 going forward in time.

Where, exactly, did I ever dispute Haygood being at his motorcycle at 12:35?


You obviously do NOT Know the image evidence or the sworn testimony of the main players involved. I have researched this thoroughly. YOU have NOT. How about you seriously bone up on this issue and save me from having to correct you time after time after time? 

You don't even know what I've been saying in my replies to your posts. Why then should I --or anyone else-- believe that you've "done the research" if you don't understand what I've been saying?

The single most compelling argument against a shot at Z275 is that it is only 36 frames before the headshot which was fired at or just before Z311. That is less than 2 seconds which is less than the minimum time of 2.4 seconds the FBI determined the Carcano could be fired accurately. It has been shown that the Carcano can be fired in less than 2 seconds between shots but that is without taking time to reacquire the target and take aim. Oswald could not have fired a shot at Z275 and followed it with a precise shot at Z311. Why would he have even attempted such a rapid fired shot? At a bare minimum, there would have been 44 frames between Oswald's shots and even that is a stretch. For the headshot, he took almost 5 seconds to reacquire his target, aim, and squeeze the trigger.

Andrew, you need to go back to the drawing board.

The head shot did not strike until after z312 was exposed. And the second was not as late as z275 because the forward recoil-like motion begins at z271-272. There is a change in the appearance of the wrist area between those two frames as well. Also there is this apparent movement of the left sunvisor:

and JFK’s hair flies up at z273-276 just as Hickey observed at the time of the second shot:

I expect may have taken a frame or two for the air movement from the bullet shock wave to reach the head and start lifting the hair.

From the beginning of z271 to the beginning of z313 is 42 frames or 2.3 seconds.  Are you suggesting that Oswald could not have fired the third shot 2.3 seconds after the second in a last desperate attempt to hit his mark? He wouldn’t even have to move the rifle held in place by the strap and boxes as the target moved a bit more to the right as it followed the left to right curve toward the underpass.

The single most compelling argument against a shot at Z275 is that it is only 36 frames before the headshot which was fired at or just before Z311. That is less than 2 seconds which is less than the minimum time of 2.4 seconds the FBI determined the Carcano could be fired accurately. It has been shown that the Carcano can be fired in less than 2 seconds between shots but that is without taking time to reacquire the target and take aim. Oswald could not have fired a shot at Z275 and followed it with a precise shot at Z311. Why would he have even attempted such a rapid fired shot? At a bare minimum, there would have been 44 frames between Oswald's shots and even that is a stretch. For the headshot, he took almost 5 seconds to reacquire his target, aim, and squeeze the trigger.

Andrew, you need to go back to the drawing board. 

I was stunned to hear there was another assassination attempt on President Trump last night at the White House Correspondent's Dinner. My normal routne on Sunday morning is to watch ESPN's Sport Center while drinking my coffee and eating my breakfast sandwich. I just now heard about this attack.

Unfortunately, the assassin was taken alive. He deserved to be Crooksed. Hopefully, he will be locked up in a cage for the rest of his life. The last person who attempted to assassinate a POTUS in the nation's capitol was acquitted by a Washington D..C. jury. It would not surprise me if the same thing happened again.

Did Marilyn Sitzman have a case of the hiccups?

Given the fact that Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot was at hypothetical Z-124 (half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming -- after a 17-second pause -- at Z-133), how are we to explain Zapruder's camera's jiggling all over the place other than the possibility that the gal who was holding onto vertigo-plagued Zapruder, Marilyn Sitzman, had a real bad case of the hiccups?

If so, were they so loud that they caused some witnesses to believe that the shots were coming from the bushes?

It is not a given fact that the first shot was fired at virtual Z124. That is your conclusion and you are entitled to it just as I am entitled to my belief the shot was fired at actual Z148. Neither of us has proof positive of what we believe but I'm sure I feel as strongly about my scenario as you do of yours. We both can't be right but it's possible we could both be wrong.