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51:40.
Brehm at an earlyer time said that the sound of shots came from a building in Houston (not the TSBD)(& not from 2 buildings in Houston).
Brehm at an earlyer time said that he thort that shots came from the TSBD.
Anyhow, re Brehm, u need to be careful re his actual wordage. Where he heard the apparent source of the sound of shots is not necessaryly the same thing as where he thort the shots came from. Where he thort the shots came from is (& Brehm is happy to admit this) a later Brehm invention based on all of the facts & factoids floating around back then. I am not saying that Brehm was at any time dishonest, he was truthful at all times, & was happy to explain the apparent contradiction.

Did the Bronson footage show that Brehm did not immediately take steps to protect his son?
I will hav a look.
If so then Bronson (once again) shows/confirms how (Brehm's)(& everyone's) memory is fraught.

    People need to remember that Brehm was a wounded WW 2 Vet. WW 2 Vets carried that "experience" around with them the rest of their lives.
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Oswald might have evaded early capture had Johnny Brewer not alertly spotted him sneak into the Texas Theater. The cops would have had no reason to look there. Oswald could have sat through the double feature and by that time, it would have been getting dark. He could have easily left with the rest of the crowd without being noticed. Even if his picture had been posted on TV by then, and it probably would have, it's unlikely any of the theater patrons would have seen it. What Oswald would have done after that and how long he could have evaded capture is anybody's guess. Mine is the manhunt wouldn't have lasted more than a few days, if that long.

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Even if his picture had been posted on TV by then, and it probably would have, it's unlikely any of the theater patrons would have seen it.

Oswald's picture was on the TV, IIRC in the afternoon after the assassination but of course he was already arrested, there were Oswald photos published the next day and even those were from the halls of Dallas Police. I'm pretty sure Oswald's photo was in the paper when he defected or when he came back so there would have been AP photos(which were not a very good likeness) to be found if he wasn't captured, or perhaps the Police would release the New Orleans arrest photos which would have helped the public track him down.
Depending on his smarts and what photos were available to the press, Oswald may have been on the run for some time and Oswald having a revolver with about ten bullets would have any arresting Officer a likely target, as seen by what happened with Tippit and very nearly McDonald.





JohnM
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51:40.
Brehm at an earlyer time said that the sound of shots came from a building in Houston (not the TSBD)(& not from 2 buildings in Houston).
Brehm at an earlyer time said that he thort that shots came from the TSBD.
Anyhow, re Brehm, u need to be careful re his actual wordage. Where he heard the apparent source of the sound of shots is not necessaryly the same thing as where he thort the shots came from. Where he thort the shots came from is (& Brehm is happy to admit this) a later Brehm invention based on all of the facts & factoids floating around back then. I am not saying that Brehm was at any time dishonest, he was truthful at all times, & was happy to explain the apparent contradiction.

Did the Bronson footage show that Brehm did not immediately take steps to protect his son?
I will hav a look.
If so then Bronson (once again) shows/confirms how (Brehm's)(& everyone's) memory is fraught.
Had a look. The Bronson footage stops shortly after Z313 & so Bronson karnt tell us much about what Brehm did or didnt do re protecting his son.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Zeon Mason on Yesterday at 02:19:11 AM »
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Zeon Mason on Yesterday at 02:18:06 AM »
Not sure if the “blockade” description is reverse psychology or if it means blockading the coastline of Iran so there’s no chance of the fanatic death cult version Islamic regime  ( the false one) being able to mine the waters.

Maybe the new mission should be renamed “SafeGuard” the strait to allow all merchants ships safe passage with aid of US Navy escort ships. This could be a joint venture  with Russia, China, France , Britain and the oil from that special island can be distributed by US at bargain prices once the island is occupied and under control of the US Marines.

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RS:  Your made up story is full of holes. Big Holes! Under your Made Up timelines, you are unable to explain what Harkness did with Euins between his 12:36 radio transmission and 12:45-1:00.

Harkness said he drove Euins back to the front of the TSBD, put Euins in Sawyer's car, then drove up Houston to the rear of the TSBD. He said he "stayed at the back of the building until {he} was relieved by a squad." He then went back to the front of the building, where Sawyer was setting up as a sort of impromptu command post. This would explain why Harkness' trike is facing west in the Nat Geo footage: he would have returned south on Houston then turned right/west on Elm. Had he left the trike there after driving Euins to the front of the TSBD, the trike would have been left facing east.


RS: This 12:35 Haygood radio transmission, means the Darnell Troika footage of Haygood, Harkness, and Walthers would have to be at 12:34.

Why couldn't it be at some point in 12:33? Also, if it occurs at some point in 12:34, that allows for as much as 120 seconds (12:34:00 - 12:35:59) for Haygood to get back to his ride, get the info from the unnamed witness, and radio it it. Given the distance involved, about 250 feet, that's definitely possible.


Except the Harkness 12:36 radio transmission makes that IMPOSSIBLE.

Another baseless assertion from you.


Harkness testified that he loaded Euins into Sawyer's car BEFORE securing the rear of the TSBD.

He also said that the area to the west of the TSBD was not the back of the TSBD.


If you actually read the Euins WC Testimony, he pinpoints EXACTLY where he met Harkness.

Yes. He placed it just to the west of the TSBD annex and parking shed. That is, near the end of the fence separating the TSBD property from the RR yard. And not too far from where Harkness' three wheeler can be seen in the Darnell film. And we see Harkness walking in that direction when we last see him in the Darnell film.


Like your full of holes fictional story, your location for the Harkness/Euins 1st meeting is ENTIRELY WRONG

The Euins/Harkness meeting, per Euins, is about 25 feet from the end of the fence. That's pretty close. As in, two objects 25 feet apart can both fit inside a standard two-car garage.

   How about you just do the research? Your wanting to put the loading of Euins into Sawyer's car at 1:00 tells the tale. You have tied yourself into a Knot. You have absolutely NO IDEA what Harkness did immediately after the kill shot. Otherwise, you would not be trying to NOW put Harkness in that Troika filming at 12:33. Everything you are NOW claiming is a consistent retrofit to try and make your previous claims work. Just do the research. I am currently WAY ahead of you. 
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Is there any photo of the paper bag that CLEARLY shows WHERE on the bag that the palm print was found?

I found CE 142 but CE 626 seems to be missing. CE 142 is too dark to see anything distinct.

I’m asking because I recall having seen a photo in  threads past of the bag that had the palm print on the MIDDLE of the bag and for the past 15 years that was a fact uncontested by anyone here on this forum to the best of my memory.

It may have been from an old Toni Fratini or Alan Ford thread back before even the PrayerMan saga. I’d like to confirm that the photo existed because otherwise I’m either experiencing a Mandela false memory  effect or there has been revision of WC exhibits and WC testimony.

If the palm print was found at the bottom
Of the bag , then that’s even MORE reason to believe Fraziers description of the bag being Parallel straight up and down with the bottom in Oswald’s right hand and the top under his armpit without any part of the bag seen (noticed) protruding above Oswald’s  shoulder.

Whether the middle or the bottom,  It is still questionable if all other prints from Oswald’s hand touching this bag multiple times while making it, taping it , folding it and unfolding it, and while carrying the rifle in the bag multiple times, would  have 100% evaporated leaving not even a trace.

There were about 3 hours from 8:30 am till 12:00pm that the earlier prints of Oswald could possibly have 100% evaporated but according to Latona even with evaporation, the silver nitrate treatment has good chances of exposing partial prints.

And the last 4 times that Oswald touched the would have been from 12:15-12:28 less than about 20 minutes before the SN was visited by Luke Mooney.

And then , interestingly no prints were found from the person  who first lifted this bag from its alleged location laying folded on the floor in the SN. And who actually was the person who first removed this bag from the floor anyway?
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Yeah that's about the same what they said when Hitler came to power.

You are cheering on a guy who has betrayed you from day one and who will dump you as soon as he has no use for you.

Many people who supported Hitler found out too late what a monster he really was. The same is happening now with Trump.

  You have no idea what people were thinking back when Hitler came to power. Stop acting like you jumped through a time portal. When Trump got elected for a 3rd time, it was supposed to be the "end of democracy". Yet, here we are. "You know nothing, Jon Snow".
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TC-

I posted over at Ed Forum once that Brewer's account of LHO behavior strongly indicates LHO was a participant  in the JFKA, or at bare minimum, knew enough about the JFKA to immediately conclude that he would look guilty in any investigation. Another reason I am banned over there.

Even Larry Hancock dances around the Brewer testimony. If LHO had no knowledge of the JFKA, and was only going to hijack an airplane...why was he acting so furtively, even before getting to Love Field? 

Maybe I will re-post here.
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You really need to get that desperation of yours under control.

Get a grip.

I'm not the one inventing fantasyland delusions.
I'm not the one saying Oswald's only accessible jacket at the time was a perfect match for what the killer was wearing.
I'm not creating scenarios where jackets are secretly stolen.
I'm not the one who's saying stolen jackets are being clandestinely swapped into evidence.
I'm not the one saying that your Oswald doppelganger entered a carpark and dropped a perfectly matched jacket under a car.
I'm not the one cruelly saying Roberts was yet another mistaken eyewitness.
I'm not the one making up fairy tales that I have two identical Jackets in my clothing collection.
I'm not the one that's twisting my comments and lying about what I wrote.

The problem for you is that the Warren Commission did such a thorough job in finding Oswald guilty that you now have to keep inventing a string of impossible, illogical narratives to cover each piece of incriminating evidence.
Instead of just accepting a single individual assassinated Kennedy and Tippit, you dementedly have teams of unrelated conspirators in every branch of law enforcement and men in positions of power, organizing teams of assassins and doing all sorts of undetected tampering.

And you call me desperate?? -sigh-

JohnM
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