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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Shooter behind the fence
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 02:19:03 PM »
Just to follow up on Norman's estimation of the timespan of the shots. He didn't give one. In his testimony to the WC he said:

"And I don't remember saying I heard several seconds later. I merely told him that I heard three shots because I didn't have any idea what time it was."
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Head shot fragments hit JCs upheld wrist, AKA top of wrist. Nelly said she thought the third shot is the one that hit his wrist. Head fragment removes a possibility of slug shedding tiny fragments within the skull.

Is that the way it happened in your Bizzaro Universe.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 02:04:24 PM »
The Z-313 bullet fragmented into large pieces inside JFK's skull.

Those large bullet fragments exited his skull, and one of them struck the chrome strip.

D'oh!

Yup. One fragment hit the chrome strip. Another hit the inside of the windshield. Some fragments left the limo, probably over the top of the windshield.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The smell of gunpowder
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 01:58:31 PM »
TS-

Yes, many "nosewitnesses" smelled gunsmoke in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA, in the GK area, which was upwind from TSBD6.

Senator Yarborough said he smelled the gunpowder residue on Elm St. That doesn't give us a hint as to where that residue originated from.
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Another one of your blundering, frivolous replies. Did you even actually read the OP and/or any of the links therein?

If you had gathered up the courage and objectivity to read any of the links on Dr. Young's account, you would have learned that no one said the limo was driven to Bethesda. No one even implied this, and I certainly say no such thing in the OP.

The limo was in the White House garage, and the two senior Navy NCOs were sent to the garage to check the limo for evidence, especially skull fragments.

Oh my goodness.

First off, the 2013 article you are citing is a highly condensed version of the same article that I quote in the OP! The version you are citing consists of some excerpts from the full article. The excerpts were selected by a historian at the U.S. Navy Bureau of Medicine and Surgery's Office of Medical History, Andre Sobocinski. Did you not notice that the byline of the version you are citing explains that it was edited by Sobocinski? The full version of the 2013 article is 12 pages long, whereas the excerpted version you are citing is only three pages long.

Second, as I explain in the OP, the full 2013 article, titled “Navy Medicine and President Kennedy’s Autopsy: Recollections from a former White House Physician,” was based on an interview done with Dr. Young in 2001 by the Office of Medical History. You can find the full 2013 article here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Navy_Medicine_and_President_Kennedy%E2%80%99s_Autopsy-_Recollections_from_a_former_White_House_Physician_(IA_NMAndTheKennedyAssassination).pdf

Yeah, whoops, you have posted another embarrassing gaffe. Do you ever get tired of making an absolute fool of yourself?

Moving on from Corbett's latest blundering, I should make four follow-up points about Dr. Young's disclosure:

-- Dr. Young was the chief assistant of Dr. George Burkley, JFK's personal physician. Dr. Burkley was a Navy admiral at the time. Dr. Young was a Navy captain at the time. Before JFK's body arrived at Bethesda, Burkley contacted Young and told him to prepare for the autopsy.

The rank of captain in the Navy is a very high rank; it is equivalent to a full-bird colonel in the Army, Air Force, and Marine Corps, or O-6. It is the rank immediately below admiral in the Navy.

-- Chiefs Thomas Mills and William Martinell were Dr. Young's assistants. Dr. Young was the one who ordered them to go to the White House garage to inspect JFK's limo.

-- Jan K. Herman, one of the two historians from the Office of Medical History who interviewed Dr. Young in 2001, contacted Chief Mills and asked him about Dr. Young's account. Chief Mills acknowledged the finding of the bullet and confirmed that Dr. Young later called him to verify his recollection.

-- Once Dr. Young realized that the misshapen bullet had not been addressed by the Warren Commission, he was reluctant to go public with his disclosure, which is why the 2001 interview was not published until 2013.

I don't doubt that you've found some  BS: stories about a bullet being found in the limo by a couple of Navy NCOs. I also don't doubt that you would be gullible enough to believe them. The internet is loaded with sensational stories such as this. They are the modern equivalent of supermarket tabloids. I'll bet you used to eat those up as well.

The story makes no sense. I can believe that Dr. Young would have sent the NCOs to the White House garage if the Secret Service had found bone fragments in the limo. That would be relevant to the autopsy. Why would the Secret Service turn over a bullet to those NCOs? Did they turn over the fragmented bullet they found in the limo? Of course they didn't. So why would they turn over a bullet?

What you have demonstrated here is your complete lack of critical thinking. If you find a story anywhere that supports your belief that JFK died as the result of a conspiracy, you will accept it at face value. You don't even care if those stories are compatible with one another.

All one has to do is look at your sources and see they are obscure websites. I've never heard of any of them.

Wikimedia Commons?

WhoWhatWhy.org? Now there's a pillar of American Journalism?

Assassination Archives and Research Center (AARC)? I'll bet they wanted people to think they were associated with ARRB. It wouldn't surprise me if you think they were.

Your post reminds me of a joke from a TV commercial from a couple decades ago.

"You can't put something on the internet that isn't true."

"Where did you hear that."

"On the internet."
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if i had 360 dollars  + shipping plus taxes plus scanning costs i would buy that DCA print on ebay and scan it at Reel Revival but apparently i don't have money for that
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that’s nice, Matt.  my go-to place is Robin Unger’s website for the best quality everything.  Robin is a class act. Thanks, Robin.
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When you've got Putin's hackers and professional trolls working for you, it doesn't matter what the Washington Post and MSNBC say about you.

Again with the Russian conspiracy nonsense?  You think Russian hackers and trolls changed the outcome of the 2016 and 2024 elections and have more influence than our own biased media?  Far out.  As the Dems say when anyone alleges voter fraud, "there is no evidence" that a single vote in those elections was influenced by Russia.  It is a baseless conspiracy theory grafted onto the facts to promote a desired narrative. 
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A.C Hickman - Sixth Floor Museum website
Abraham Zapruder - Image of an Assassination: A New Look at the Zapruder Film 1998 DVD (missing frames can be patched with JFK the lost bullet)
Andre Leche - gettyimages
Charles L. Bronson - Sixth Floor Museum website
Dallas Cinema Associates - god knows what
David Francis Powers - CNN old website on Archive.org (not the best quality but it's the only one i could find)
Elsie Dorman - Sixth Floor Museum website
F.M Bell - Sixth Floor Museum website
Frank Marotta - Sixth Floor Museum website
Fredna Stewart - Sixth Floor Museum website
George Jeffries - Sixth Floor Museum website
George Reid - Sixth Floor Museum website
Jack Jernigan - Sixth Floor Museum website
Jackie Tindel - Sixth Floor Museum website
John Haller - Sixth Floor Museum website
Keith Griffith - Sixth Floor Museum website
Marie Muchmore - ??
Orville Nix - Sixth Floor Museum website
Pat Sanders - Sixth Floor Museum website
Robert Hughes - Sixth Floor Museum website
Rudy and Vera Clauss - Sixth Floor Museum website
Tina Towner - Sixth Floor Museum website
Ward Warren - Sixth Floor Museum website

I think i missed some home movies but this is my list so far
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For this half-assed story to make sense, JFK's limo would have to have been driven to Bethesda. Why the hell would that have been done and what is your evidence that was done. Inquiring minds want to know.

Another one of your blundering, frivolous replies. Did you even actually read the OP and/or any of the links therein?

If you had gathered up the courage and objectivity to read any of the links on Dr. Young's account, you would have learned that the limo was at the White House garage, and that the two senior Navy NCOs were sent to the garage to check the limo for evidence, especially skull fragments. The White House garage was only about 20 minutes from Bethesda.

Here is an actual account written by Captain James Young on 11/21/2013. The only mention of any bullets was when he was writing about the bullets that had struck JFK. Nothing about a bullet being found in the limo.

https://www.med.navy.mil/Media/News/Article/2608993/what-price-a-rose-a-navy-physician-remembers-nov-22-1963/

Do you ever bother to vet the *&*^% stories you post?

Oh my goodness. I'm sure your subconscious asked the frontal lobe of your brain this very question.

First off, the 2013 article you are citing is a highly condensed version of the same article that I quote in the OP! The version you are citing consists of some excerpts from the full article. The excerpts were selected by a historian at the U.S. Navy Bureau of Medicine and Surgery's Office of Medical History, Andre Sobocinski. Did you not notice that the byline of the version you are citing explains that it was edited by Sobocinski? The full version of the 2013 article is 12 pages long, whereas the excerpted version you are citing is only three pages long.

Second, as I explain in the OP, the full 2013 article, titled “Navy Medicine and President Kennedy’s Autopsy: Recollections from a former White House Physician,” was based on an interview done with Dr. Young in 2001 by the Office of Medical History. You can find the full 2013 article here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Navy_Medicine_and_President_Kennedy%E2%80%99s_Autopsy-_Recollections_from_a_former_White_House_Physician_(IA_NMAndTheKennedyAssassination).pdf

Yeah, whoops, you have posted another embarrassing gaffe. Do you ever get tired of making an absolute fool of yourself?

Moving on from Corbett's latest blundering, I should make four follow-up points about Dr. Young's disclosure:

-- Dr. Young was the chief assistant of Dr. George Burkley, JFK's personal physician. Dr. Burkley was a Navy admiral at the time. Dr. Young was a Navy captain at the time. Before JFK's body arrived at Bethesda, Burkley contacted Young and told him to prepare for the autopsy.

The rank of captain in the Navy is a very high rank; it is equivalent to a full-bird colonel in the Army, Air Force, and Marine Corps, or O-6. It is the rank immediately below admiral in the Navy.

-- Chiefs Thomas Mills and William Martinell were Dr. Young's assistants. Dr. Young was the one who ordered them to go to the White House garage to inspect JFK's limo.

-- Jan K. Herman, one of the two historians from the Office of Medical History who interviewed Dr. Young in 2001, contacted Chief Mills and asked him about Dr. Young's account. Chief Mills acknowledged the finding of the bullet and confirmed that Dr. Young later called him to verify his recollection.

-- Once Dr. Young realized that the misshapen bullet had not been addressed by the Warren Commission, he was reluctant to go public with his disclosure, which is why the 2001 interview was not published until 2013.
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