Wait a minute! As crazy people sometimes do, it seems to me that the resident loon may have inadvertently hit upon an excellent idea. If forum members simply had subpoena power - you know, sort of like a JFKA grand jury - wouldn't that move these discussions along? Bart Kamp, get your butt over here! Anyone NOT think this is a good idea as a new Term of Service?

Subpoena Power

Forum members are authorized to subpoena any person, living or dead, to appear and give testimony, under oath and penalty of perjuy or something like that, regarding any matter that at least two forum members believe (1) is or might somehow be related to the assassination of JFK and/or (2) would be kind of fun and interesting to hear about. Failure to appear shall be deemed an admission that anything the forum members may have to say about the individual, now or in the future, is true.

   Where are you at Bart Kamp? All you gotta do is answer the O'meara question above. Or, you can use an intermediary to answer the question like Gary Mack used to do. Your "work" product is being questioned. Your extended silence is akin to "taking the 5th".

Perfect! It's Royell Logic, where everything is upside down and bassackwards. Two complete loons profess to be mystified by Bart's enhancement; the Voice of Reason (moi) asks Bart about this at his site where he invites contact; Bart is kind enough to respond by email; the VOR (moi) posts Bart's response; the two loons persist with their dark suspicions; the VOR (moi) suggests the two loons contact Bart themselves, posts his contact informatiion, and repeatedly bumps that suggestion; the two loons do not contact Bart because (1) hey, what would Bart know about how Bart enhanced the image anyway and (2) such contact would carry great risk of spoiling the two loons' loonish fun; BUT NOW that one loon's claim of "not a peep" has been exposed as ludicrous, said loon insists it is BART'S OBLIGATION to appear here and defend himself.

I tried to toss said loon a bone by saying I was just tweaking him, but let's be honest: he really is COMPLETELY INSANE Huge Gates Getaway Car One Glove Bogus Imposter Haygood Bart Faked Shelley and Lovelady Guy. Despite my decades of activity on weirdness forums where I thought I'd pretty much seen it all, the JFKA does seem to attract a unique species of nutcase. Why is that, I wonder?

Kamp knows that when Frazier said Stanton was to his left he was talking about when she first came out on to the front steps...Yes Stanton was to Frazier's left for what was probably the majority of the time she was out there, however my post made clear that the only thing that matters is where Stanton was during the time of the Prayer Man photography...Kamp is not honest, and Gardner & Frame are not competent interviewers, because they do not admit, or bring to Kamp's attention, that both Lovelady and Frazier put Stanton in the Prayer Man spot in their statements...Kamp is deliberately trying to mislead - which is the same as lying...Again, if I were allowed the fair air time I have earned in a debate with Kamp he would not get away with that with me as a fellow podcast guest...Lovelady made more than clear that Stanton was in the Prayer Man spot at the time the limousine passed by the front steps (Hughes and Wiegman)...Kamp is fishing for confirmation and hoping to deceive the public with a deliberately out of context quote and he is being assisted by delinquent podcast hosts (like usual)...Frazier said that after Calvery told them the president has been shot that he and Stanton were "staring at each other in shock for the longest time"...That time period Frazier is referencing is the exact time period shown in Couch/Darnell and it negates the false reference Kamp makes of Frazier saying Stanton was to his left...Kamp tries to ignore the other layer upon layers of confirming evidence that makes Stanton Prayer Man like her height, elbow-length sleeves, and dress neckline...Like the fact she said she could not see the limousine at the time of the shots (Prayer Man cannot see the limousine because of the west wall of the portal)...Nor can Kamp show us Stanton to Frazier's left in the clear Altgens 6 frame in stereoscopic juxtaposition to the first Wiegman frames...If Stanton was to Frazier's left in the photography in question we would see her there in Altgens and Wiegman...Frazier said Stanton was in the deepest part of the shadows on the front steps...The deepest part of the shadows is exactly where Prayer Man is standing...These are the operative evidence points and Kamp has failed to answer them...

The Prayer Man people are avoiding obtaining the original film copy of the Hughes Film because High Tech enhancement like that done by Chris Davidson will most-likely bring out the obese body of Sarah Stanton exactly in the Prayer Man spot...The research world has been hijacked by the Prayer Man people and they are dishonestly directing what evidence is pursued and what is not...These are people who accept the Cinque-like claim that the dress neckline in the 1st generation copy of Darnell is a CIA forgery...

Kamp is lying when he libels in public that I do not show any evidence...

All commenters are working off evidence presented by researchers that present facts, a photo here a statement from evidence there. We all learn as we go along. I discovered where the head shooter was from the Z-film. Evidence from K's X-rays proves he was shot from a ground location. Like the storm drain at the corner of Elm and Houston that was later removed by Dallas as part of a coverup. K's back wound was at an upward angle as the pass-through slug went on to make the dent by the mirror. Where else could this shot have come from? Not Oswald.

Let me see. We can accept the findings of a team of the most respected forensic medical examiners in that country who had access to all the original autopsy photos and x-rays or we can go with the opinion of a rank amateur who has only seen a small subset of low-resolution copies of the photos and x-rays. Gee, that's a tough call.

This photo from the Secret Service re-enactment shows the downward angle of the single bullet entering JFK's back below the collar of his jacket, at the level of the knot of this tie and into the back of JBC next to his armpit. It is a myth that the back shot or the head shot went through JFK on an upward angle.

https://emuseum.jfk.org/objects/29149/photograph-of-fbi-agents-reenacting-the-kennedy-assassinatio

Here is my Common Sense take on the issue.

The single best argument against Oswald being part of a conspiracy is that he got his job at the TSBD well before anyone knew a presidential motorcade would be going right past that building in late November. Whether one postulates Oswald was a shooter as part of a conspiracy or patsy chosen to take the fall, the plotters couldn't have known that the job at the TSBD would give Oswald a the perfect perch to shoot JFK from. Even if they knew JFK was coming to Dallas, they would have to have specific knowledge that there would be a motorcade and that it would pass directly in front of the TSBD.

The CTs might counter that the conspirators just took advantage of the situation when they discovered their shooter/patsy was at a workplace overlooking the parade route. The question then becomes, why would they have selected Oswald for either role if they didn't know in advance of the golden opportunity his employment at the TSBD would present. Why would these conspirators select an average USMC marksman to do the biggest contract killing in American history? It makes no sense. It is also a bit far-fetched to think they had already contracted with Oswald to do the shooting and just got lucky when the motorcade route was announced. What are the odds of that happening.

Then the CTs might ask, didn't Oswald just get lucky when he learned of the motorcade route. Yes he did, and if Oswald was the only mentally unbalanced person in the country with a rifle and a propensity to commit such a heinous act, it would have been a remarkably bad piece of luck. But the fact is there might have been dozens of such people in the country, maybe hundreds, who would have done what Oswald did if given the opportunity. Given the fact we had a President who traveled all over the country and had a fondness for riding in slow moving motorcades in an open top car, it's not at all surprising that he eventually might cross paths with one of them. The key word here is "opportunity". This was a crime of opportunity. Oswald won the assassin's lottery when JFK's motorcade was routed right past his workplace and he took full advantage. Maybe if another site for the luncheon had been selected we would have never heard of Lee Harvey Oswald. Maybe it would have been another assassin in another city at another time who was dealt such an opportunity or maybe it would never have happened at all. Life can be that random. Who could have guessed that the choice for the site of the luncheon would have such devastating consequences, but that is what happened.