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JC--

I am no fan of the Soviet Union then, or Russia now.

But the word "rational" covers a lot of ground.

Trying to start a life in Russia might speak to an ideological bent, in an otherwise rational person.

That is, no one has ever said LHO was schizo, or fabricated memories, or misunderstood basic instructions, etc. Indeed LHO, as Marine, was advanced into relatively high-end radar work at the Atsugi airbase in Japan.

I doubt some whacko would be able to do that.

I do regard someone shooting at major public figures, or any innocent person, as likely mentally ill, even if lucid. I am a layman in these matters.

Tough call on LHO. The DPD'ers who interviewed him post-JFKA thought him lucid, perfidious and abrasive.

As for low-level DGI, G2 or Apha-66'ers, they might regard LHO as very useful.

I don't believe Oswald was insane in a legal sense, but he clearly wasn't playing with a full deck.
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DOM-

This is an x-ray of Gov. JBC's wrist, as accepted by the Warren Commission. If you do not accept it, that is fine.

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You just can't help yourself, can you? This thread is supposed to be a chance for people to list the top six books they would recommend to a newcomer. But, of course, you only list five books and then deluge us with more of your endless, pompous posturing that everyone who disagrees with you is part of the lunatic fringe and/or has a conspiracy-prone mindset and/or has a warped mind and/or has a form of mental illness, blah, blah, blah--after, that is, you announce that you will talk about your supposedly high IQ and academic honors if anyone asks.

Uh, you might want to review my first post here and YOUR response, he of the conveniently short memory. You will see that it was YOU who went off on a tangential rant. You repeatedly - incessantly - mischaracterize what others have said and then respond to that straw man. In my interactions on perhaps 30 internet forums dating back to 1996, you are among the most grimly humorless, thin-skinned, self-important, just-flat-whacked-out characters I have encountered. Fortunately, most here are perceptive enough to see you for what you are.
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https://youtu.be/SoDyGqgFIIQ?si=1Gpf7E2TzKRsMj7d

On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 40, Accessories After the Fact 

Here is my review of Sylvia Meagher's book, Accessories After the Fact. Spoiler Alert: It is not a very good book.
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JC--

I am no fan of the Soviet Union then, or Russia now.

But the word "rational" covers a lot of ground.

Trying to start a life in Russia might speak to an ideological bent, in an otherwise rational person.

That is, no one has ever said LHO was schizo, or fabricated memories, or misunderstood basic instructions, etc. Indeed LHO, as Marine, was advanced into relatively high-end radar work at the Atsugi airbase in Japan.

I doubt some whacko would be able to do that.

I do regard someone shooting at major public figures, or any innocent person, as likely mentally ill, even if lucid. I am a layman in these matters.

Tough call on LHO. The DPD'ers who interviewed him post-JFKA thought him lucid, perfidious and abrasive.

As for low-level DGI, G2 or Apha-66'ers, they might regard LHO as very useful. 

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The JFK Assassination - Discussion & Debate / Re: When Was JFK Hit?
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Good grief Lance, what are you on about? You are the first and only person to my knowledge that has ever accused me of being lunatic fringe. I've said some stupid things, may be wrong on some things, but you're just out of line and I don't think you know what you are talking about.

If I knew what I was talking about, I certainly wouldn't be on a JFKA forum, would I?  :D It's right in the Terms of Service: "Those who actually know what they are talking about are strongly advised to refrain from interrupting the discussions with informed or rational contributions." No, like most everyone here I absolutely revel in not knowing what I'm talking about.

"Lunatic fringe" is just my catch-all for CT theorizing that strikes me as beyond the pale. Viewed from the 30,000-foot level - i.e., as an entire scenario - your theories of the JFKA and Tippit murder strike me as overly elaborate and convulted to the point of resembling science fiction, almost as though someone had set out on a mission to break new ground, believability be damned. I did appreciate your defense of Ruth Paine, whom I regard as the soul of innocence.

It probably is unfair to place you and MTG in the same pod, MTG being (in my opinion) the lunatic fringe of the lunatic fringe. In your case, I meant "lunatic fringe" in a kinder and gentler way. The larger question being, "Who cares what I think anyway?"

MTG slings ad hominem insults like they were popcorn, but Dear Old Lance and most of his other targets just consider the source and let the popcorn fall where it will.
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Here's a possible explanation that you might not have thought of....

Oswald's Carcano rifle, per the FBI's firearms expert Robert Frazier, fired bullets high and to the right when using the 4-power scope. [See Frazier's Warren Commission testimony, at 3 H 404-405.]

If this was also the case when Oswald was shooting at JFK on November 22, and Oswald for some reason forgot this quirk about his scope when he squeezed off his first shot that day (if he used the scope at all, which is also debatable, of course), that could be at least a partial explanation as to why his first shot missed and (possibly) struck the nearby oak tree, a tree that would have been to Oswald's RIGHT if he was aiming a little to the tree's left through the scope just as JFK's car was nearing it from LHO's point-of-view (as illustrated in CE888 and CE875).

The Bottom Line (concerning the "missed shot"):

Nobody can know for certain what happened to that bullet. And nobody can know for certain whether the "oak tree" theory is accurate or not.

But, given the overall evidence (which certainly indicates that three shots and only three shots were fired during the assassination, with all three of those shots coming from Oswald's Sniper's Nest in the TSBD and from Oswald's Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, with two of those three bullets striking the victims in the limousine), I think the best guess re: the one missed shot is that that bullet did, indeed, hit the oak tree (which is a tree that was located to the RIGHT of Oswald at the time he fired that shot at approx. Z160, which fits in pretty well with a misaligned scope that might very well have been aiming "HIGH AND TO THE RIGHT" during the shooting, although that's another thing we'll never know for sure; it's quite possible that the scope became misaligned when Oswald dropped the gun amongst the boxes after the assassination).

More:
https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/missed-shot-controversy.html


The Haag ballistics team demonstrated that a Carcano bullet fired directly into asphalt and at the estimated angle Oswald's bullet would have hit the pavement would complete disintegrate and not ricochet. I don't think either a tree branch or the traffic arm would have been in the line of fire when the first shot was fired but because we don't have definitive proof of precisely when that shot was fired, it can't be ruled out.
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Lance, thank you. I have high confidence that this is the woman you described. She was 16 during part of 1908. I'll delete this link if you prefer.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190262426/sara_p-simmons

That is indeed Dear Old Granny. We called her Mammy. She was actually always very nice to me in a distant way. If folks here want a further freak-out, she was one of the "Baker girls," born in the Cayman Islands. The "Baker" was Lorenzo Dow Baker, one of the founders of the - wait for it - United Fruit Company! My middle name is Baker, establishing a direct connection between me and the CIA!
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As for LHO being "nutty"...that might be viewed as a plus. A nutty LHO's testimony might be taken with a grain of salt, and more-easily dismissed, providing plausible deniability.

Anyway, I am not sure LHO was regarded as all that nutty pre-JFKA.

The guy emigrated to the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War. What kind of a rational person would do that?
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