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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Cuban Intel Had Foreknowledge of the JFKA?
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 03:29:34 AM »
Where the LNT'ers have gone wrong is in dismissing evidence LHO was linked to Cuban intel.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Cuban Intel Had Foreknowledge of the JFKA?
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 03:11:36 AM »SMG-
Thanks for your comments.
This is interesting, and keep in Latell is a CIA officer, not some loonie JFKA researcher (CT or LNT):
Latell’s chief revelation in Castro’s Secrets is Aspillaga’s disclosure that, early in the morning of November 22, 1963, he was ordered to direct radio attention to Texas. Aspillaga related that story to Latell in a CIA safe house decades ago. Latell confirmed it through declassified reports of two “reliable American intelligence community sources.”
Again, that is a little too specific for comfort. How would Cuban intel have foreknowledge something was brewing in Dallas 11.22...if they had no hooks into LHO?
Latell's work is echoed by former CIA operative Bob Baer in my other recent post. Please see.
The basic problem is the LNT is implausible.
Shots on 11.22 in rapid cadence, gunsmoke in the GK, Gov JBC and his wife both testifying he was struck by a separate bullet from the one that hit JFK, someone with a bogus Secret Service credential in the GK area, and the inexplicable shot near Tague's feet.
Where the CT'ers have gone wrong is in trying to exonerate LHO. He is the best suspect for the TSBD6 sniper.
Where the LNT'ers have gone wrong is in dismissing evidence LHO was linked to Cuban intel.
Thanks for your comments.
This is interesting, and keep in Latell is a CIA officer, not some loonie JFKA researcher (CT or LNT):
Latell’s chief revelation in Castro’s Secrets is Aspillaga’s disclosure that, early in the morning of November 22, 1963, he was ordered to direct radio attention to Texas. Aspillaga related that story to Latell in a CIA safe house decades ago. Latell confirmed it through declassified reports of two “reliable American intelligence community sources.”
Again, that is a little too specific for comfort. How would Cuban intel have foreknowledge something was brewing in Dallas 11.22...if they had no hooks into LHO?
Latell's work is echoed by former CIA operative Bob Baer in my other recent post. Please see.
The basic problem is the LNT is implausible.
Shots on 11.22 in rapid cadence, gunsmoke in the GK, Gov JBC and his wife both testifying he was struck by a separate bullet from the one that hit JFK, someone with a bogus Secret Service credential in the GK area, and the inexplicable shot near Tague's feet.
Where the CT'ers have gone wrong is in trying to exonerate LHO. He is the best suspect for the TSBD6 sniper.
Where the LNT'ers have gone wrong is in dismissing evidence LHO was linked to Cuban intel.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Zeon Mason on Yesterday at 03:09:23 AM »You make it sound like it was a Herculean task to stack those boxes by the window.
No, of course it’s not Herculean lol , but it does take time especially if the shooter hasn’t yet selected which boxes he was going to use. All I’ve ever read about the Bronson film is that it started at 12:25. If somebody has other information that disputes that time then by all means post it. That might resolve the issue.
I can envision the shooter having stayed on the 6th floor after he spotted BRW when the shooter was at SW window. And it can work if there’s a place to hide at the NE corner of 6th floor where the shooter could observe BRW down that east side aisle and observe BRW leave, walk down the aisle, turn leftward to go to elevator and get on the elevators and operate it to go down. That would take about 30 secs to traverse the distance ( about 175 ft)
The shooter then has only maybe 90 ft to traverse if he was hiding behind some boxes at the NE corner of the floor to get to the SN So it would not likely take longer than about 15 seconds
Then he has to select which boxes , stack them, orient them at that angle and place a box on the window ledge Then lower the window,and position himself sitting on a box and keeping himself out of sight by start of Bronson film at 12:25. IDK what the fastest probable time is to complete the whole sequence But it likely would take at least another
So totaling up it looks like to me that the shooter would need at least about 2 minutes to complete the sequence. Therefore BRW has to leave from the window by 12:23 which is possible and as seen one last time the by Rowland.
Strange Roland ( or anyone else?) did not see any activity of the shooter in the window moving and stacking box on the window ledge and lowering the window.
I see why the LNs prefer just to write off Rowland as a “ clown”. But I can’t do that. IMO the guy was telling what he saw and he had the TSBD clock in sight AS he observed BRW. So his 12:15 time stamp is a valid one.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Jack Nessan on Yesterday at 03:01:09 AM »It’s the arrangement of those 3 boxes that had to be completed before the Bronson film starts at 12:25 which is problem. It’s going to be really close if BRW did not leave that window until 12:23 cause the shooter has to wait for BRW to walk abut 160 ft and get on the elevator and operate it before the shooter could be confident BRW was gone from the floor.
The shooter has to walk 100 ft and squeeze thru narrow opening of the box wall and then he has to select which boxes which he wants to use, slide 2 of them in the angle he desired , stack the 3rd box on the window ledge and he has to LOWER the window from its full half open when Rowland saw the black man “hanging out” the window. To the 15.5 in height it was in the Bronson film.
All of this moving of the 3 boxes in place and lowering the window was occurring AFTER Norman was at his 5th floor window from 12:23 till the 12:30 shooting started. Should not Norman heard something?
“It’s the arrangement of those 3 boxes that had to be completed before the Bronson film starts at 12:25 which is problem. It’s going to be really close if BRW did not leave that window until 12:23 cause the shooter has to wait for BRW to walk abut 160 ft and get on the elevator and operate it before the shooter could be confident BRW was gone from the floor.”
This is nothing but pure conjecture to think it was constructed after BRW left the floor. Where does that come from?
It could have been done before Givens returned to the 6th floor to retrieve his jacket and cigarettes. Remember Givens saw him walking from that direction.
Or done before BRW returned to the 6th floor.
Unfortunately, Rowland is every CT’s wet dream. The mistake is believing anything Rowland stated as having any basis in reality. After he said he watched the parade the WC should have said OK thanks for coming. Reread Rowland’s testimony but this time read it with the idea you want to know how many times did the WC catch him fabricating stories or outright lying to them. He is that guy.
Here is a few. I counted at least 9 times. Start at the beginning when he is telling them he went to the eye doctor and his eyesight was better than 20-20. Then why was he there. It just gets worse from that point.
There is no such thing as a 30 odd six rifle. You cannot tell the caliber of rifle by looking at it. Especially from 200 feet away. He knew it was a high powered scope, seriously.
His description of the guy in the window is ridiculous and completely wrong. Was the guy standing at the window or back inside the room.
Three different descriptions of the man he saw. When asked if he looked back at the 6th floor window after the shooting he said first no, then maybe, then yes. If you heard gunfire wouldn’t that be the first place you would look. At the place you supposedly saw a man with a rifle.
He used to go back to the building, look at it, and reconstruct the assassination in his mind. This is why they were making fun of him throughout the testimony. They knew he was lying to them and just a big BS artist caught up in the moment.
Eventually they had to bring his wife to testify about his believability.
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re: Am I the only one...
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 02:54:21 AM »How do I blame the left? LOL. They fight tooth and nail against capital punishment. They pursue appeals for decades to delay implementation. They influence the supply of drugs that are used to implement and then argue that the lack of such drugs is a basis to stop executions as cruel and unusual. Not a single moment of thought is given to the victim of the crime. They circumvent the legislative and judicial system that imposes the sentence. If you believe the use of lethal injection is not effective, then the solution is simple. Bring back the electric chair, hanging, and firing squad.
what does that have to do with what just happened in Tenn?
It's a red state
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re: Donald Trump is a Piece of Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh
« Last post by Richard Smith on Yesterday at 02:22:09 AM »Dear Herr Comrade Smith,
You're a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
Zombified by KGB disinformation to the Nth degree.
-- Tom
Do you realize that the KGB no longer exists? You are under the paranoid influence of a TDS propaganda campaign.
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re: Am I the only one...
« Last post by Richard Smith on Yesterday at 02:21:03 AM »How do you blame the left?
TN is a Republican supermajority deeply RED state that has a recent track record of botching executions.
If you are going to execute - do it right.
Botched Executions in Tennessee
• October 2026 (Christa Pike): Prison officials halted the execution process after administering the lethal drug pentobarbital, and the inmate was subsequently transferred to a medical facility for care. Following the incident, Governor Bill Lee suspended all scheduled executions to allow for an independent review.
• May 2026 (Tony Carruthers): The execution attempt was halted when personnel were unable to successfully establish the required intravenous lines. The state subsequently granted the inmate a one-year reprieve.
• April 2022 (Oscar Smith): Governor Lee called off the execution shortly before it was scheduled to begin due to a technical oversight. An internal review later revealed that the execution drugs had not undergone testing according to the required state protocols
How do I blame the left? LOL. They fight tooth and nail against capital punishment. They pursue appeals for decades to delay implementation. They influence the supply of drugs that are used to implement and then argue that the lack of such drugs is a basis to stop executions as cruel and unusual. Not a single moment of thought is given to the victim of the crime. They circumvent the legislative and judicial system that imposes the sentence. If you believe the use of lethal injection is not effective, then the solution is simple. Bring back the electric chair, hanging, and firing squad.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Why did Debrueys introduce LHO to Smith and Roche?
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 01:51:48 AM »People who want to draw a connection between Oswald's attempts to contact Cuban and Soviet officials in Mexico City and his assassination of JFK have some explaining to do. How could anyone, Oswald included, have known about the golden opportunity Oswald would be dealt to shoot JFK from a perch in the building he was working in. At the time, nobody even knew there would be a motorcade, much less where it would be routed. Had one of the two other sites that were considered for the luncheon been selected, the motorcade wouldn't have passed anywhere near the TSBD.
The assassination of JFK was a crime of opportunity, an opportunity that was dealt to one little man with a cheap foreign made war surplus rifle. The task was not a difficult one and only required one man to carry it out.
The assassination of JFK was a crime of opportunity, an opportunity that was dealt to one little man with a cheap foreign made war surplus rifle. The task was not a difficult one and only required one man to carry it out.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 01:42:44 AM »It’s the arrangement of those 3 boxes that had to be completed before the Bronson film starts at 12:25 which is problem. It’s going to be really close if BRW did not leave that window until 12:23 cause the shooter has to wait for BRW to walk abut 160 ft and get on the elevator and operate it before the shooter could be confident BRW was gone from the floor.
The shooter has to walk 100 ft and squeeze thru narrow opening of the box wall and then he has to select which boxes which he wants to use, slide 2 of them in the angle he desired , stack the 3rd box on the window ledge and he has to LOWER the window from its full half open when Rowland saw the black man “hanging out” the window. To the 15.5 in height it was in the Bronson film.
All of this moving of the 3 boxes in place and lowering the window was occurring AFTER Norman was at his 5th floor window from 12:23 till the 12:30 shooting started. Should not Norman heard something?
You make it sound like it was a Herculean task to stack those boxes by the window.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 01:40:18 AM »It amuses me how people get their shorts in a bunch trying to nail down precisely who was where in the minutes leading up to the shooting. They ignore the obvious evidence that tells us without question Oswald was in the sniper's nest firing the shots that killed JFK at 12:30. His fingerprints were on the boxes in the sniper's nest. The three shells found at that location were positively matched to Oswald's rifle which was found a short distance away. The only two recovered bullets were also positively matched to that same rifle, which also had Oswald's palm print on the underside of the barrel where it could only have been placed when the rifle was disassembled. Fibers matching the shirt Oswald was wearing when arrested were found on the butt plate of the rifle. There was also a makeshift bag found near the sniper's nest with Oswald's palm and fingerprint on the bottom. The bag contained fibers that matched the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle when he kept it at the Paine's house.
It is mind boggling that someone could look at all that evidence of Oswald's guilt and come to any other conclusion other than Oswald was the assassin. We have people on this forum willing to disregard all that evidence, yet these same people will mindlessly argue about what the cast of characters in front of the TSBD were doing in the immediate aftermath of the shooting, as if that had any bearing on anything of consequence.
Stupid is as stupid does.
It is mind boggling that someone could look at all that evidence of Oswald's guilt and come to any other conclusion other than Oswald was the assassin. We have people on this forum willing to disregard all that evidence, yet these same people will mindlessly argue about what the cast of characters in front of the TSBD were doing in the immediate aftermath of the shooting, as if that had any bearing on anything of consequence.
Stupid is as stupid does.