JFK Assassination Forum

Dear Freon,

How do you propose that Putin's "useful idiot" (or worse) buddy, The Traitorous Orange Turd, "finish the job?

-- Tom

He can resign before the dementia gets worse and he starts wandering off like Biden.

All available evidence points to the KGB realizing Oswald was of little to no value to them and happily letting him leave the country for good in 1962.

In addition to false defector-in-place in Geneva in June 1962 / false (or perhaps rogue) physical defector to the U.S. in February 1964, KGB Major I mean KGB Lt. Col. I mean KGB Captain Yuri Nosenko, one of the major proponents of that fallacious idea is "former" KGB officer Oleg Nechiporenko, with whom Oswald or "Oswald" allegedly met (along with KGB officers/"diplomats" Valery Kostikov and Pavel Yatzkov at the Soviet Consulate on 9/27/63 and 9/28/63, and in whose book Passport to Assassination he says the KGB had had no interest in "abnormal" Oswald in the USSR and then dedicates fifty pages of his book to how "stupid and sadistic" was Tennent H. Bagley, Nosenko's primary CIA case officer from June 1962 to September 1967, even though Bagley had nothing to do with the ostensible subject of the book -- Oswald's (or "Oswald's") alleged visit to Mexico City in late September - early October 1963 in an unsuccessful attempt to get visas to Cuba and Russia.

There are many others, of course, but those are two of the most prominent ones.

If you've read John M. Newman's 1995/2008 book, Oswald and the CIA, you know that the Soviets would have been all over former Marine U-2 operator like piranhas on a bleeding pig.

What evidence do you have that supports in any way the notion that they got involved with him again as it pertains to the assassination?

I don't think Oswald killed JFK for the KGB.

However, there are some anomalies which suggest that it may have been involved in the assassination and/or the U.S. Government's reaction to it.

Here are some buzzwords to that effect for you:

KGB Colonel Nikolai Leonov, aka “The Blond Oswald in Mexico City” — who not only may have virtually impersonated Oswald at the Cuban Consulate on or about 9/27/63 but claimed in 1993 to have met one-on-one with weeping and revolver-brandishing Oswald at the Soviet Embassy (not the Consulate, where Oswald had allegedly met with Department 13-radioactive Valery Kostikov on Friday and Saturday) on Sunday, September 29, 1963!

"Byetkov?" / Obyedkov

Kostikov / Kostin

KGB Major Aleksey Kulak, aka J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA

Snyder, Oklahoma, crop duster and former Nazi pilot, British POW, "former" KGB recruit, and OSS/CIA "recruit," Guenther Heinz Schulz, aka TUMBLEWEED / AEBURBLE

Probable long-term KGB "Illegal" George DeMohrenschildt, according to CIA Counterintelligence analyst Clare Edward Petty

Former KGB Major Pyotr Deriabin's "take" on Lee Harvey Oswald

Former KGB Major Pyotr Deriabin's "take" on Marina Prusakova

Yuri Nosenko

Mark is going to call me a dog with a bone next  , but here's the latest ...

Reviewing the 2025 thread at the Ed Forum, I see the connection Ben is making. He is assuming that Sawyer’s WC testimony, in which he simply confirmed the physical description that he relayed, was referring to the citizen described in the 1/9/64 Airtel as having seen someone running from the TSBD with a rifle. (I was wrong in one statement above: The transmission to all units by Sgt. Henslee did refer to the suspect as “believed to be armed with a .30 caliber rifle.”) But as I have stated, the Airtel is not Sawyer speaking – it is a multiple-hearsay description of what Shanklin is telling Hoover that Malley told him that Batchelor told Drain as to what Sawyer had supposedly said (and we don’t know where Batchelor heard it). There is no compelling reason to make the connection Ben is making – i.e., that Sawyer at the WC was confirming the part about someone running from the TSBD with a rifle.

The provenance of the Airtel is odd. It stands alone, among many other documents, in FBI Oswald Headquarters File (105-82555), Section 64, page 117: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57753#relPageId=117.

At the 2025 thread, Steve Thomas provided further information (as previously gathered by Bill Simpich):

On January 19, 1964, Hoover responded to Rankin concerning the description of Oswald that was broadcast. This is in the same HQ File, page 109: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57753#relPageId=109. Hoover wrote that the DPD said that the description was “by an unidentified citizen who had observed an individual approximating Oswald’s description running from the Texas School Book Depository Building immediately after the assassination. Although this citizen was requested by Dallas authorities to proceed to the Sheriff’s Office for further questioning, he apparently never appeared as the Dallas Sheriff’s Office can locate no record on this citizen.” (How weird would that have been?)

Unless Hoover is just making stuff up to make the issue go away – entirely possible – it sounds as though he had at least a bit more information than was contained in the Airtel. Petrhaps there was a follow-up call that made clear there was nothing on whoever supposedly saw the man running from the TSBD.

On November 12, 1964 – after the WR had been issued – Hoover reiterated to Rankin that the information for the transmitted description came from an unidentified citizen and stated that he didn’t think further follow-up would be productive: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=60311#relPageId=72. A follow-up letter from Rankin to Hoover refers to Hoover’s letter of November 12 and the desirability of nailing down the source of the description: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=60312#relPageId=33. Simpich says there didn’t seem to be anything further.

At the WC, all that Sawyer could remember was that the information for the description came “mainly from one witness,” a “white man” who “wasn’t young” but “wasn’t old” and who “claimed to have seen the rifle barrel in the fifth or sixth floor of the building, and claimed to have been able to see the man up there.”

That’s Brennan.

My guess: The whole “man running from the rear of the TSBD with a rifle” is a red herring, all flowing from the multiple-hearsay 1/9/64 Airtel. It is inconceivable that if someone had actually said he had seen a man running from the rear of the TSBD with a rifle, Sawyer would have failed to immediately relay this critical information to anyone and would have simply said, “Go on down to the Sheriff’s Office and tell them your story, willya?” At the Ed Forum, however, the whole thing spiraled off into the conspiracy ozone.

All available evidence points to the KGB realizing Oswald was of little to no value to them and happily letting him leave the country for good in 1962. What evidence do you have that supports in any way the notion that they got involved with him again as it pertains to the assassination?

    You claim the DPD did "release" the car. Please provide your Proof that the DPD did "release" the car. Do you know of a single image showing that car NOT being parked in front of the TSBD following the Kill Shot that afternoon?  You are making all kinds of claims that are totally unfounded. I am waiting on You to provide the Evidence to support your Baseless claims.

You are unable to support your claim that the car was ever taken into evidence. You continue to assume things you cannot prove. SOP for you.