JFK Assassination Forum

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I conclude LHO has confederates based upon my observation Gov. JBC was shot at ~Z-295.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

That happens ~Z-295.

I have reasonable doubts JBC was shot through the chest ~Z-223, but after that executed a 180-degree turn in his seat to check on JFK.

In addition, I have reasonable doubts JBC was shot through the wrist at Z-223 by a large slug, that "tumbled" (WC version) through his wrist, shattered bone, but that JBC is seen gripping his Stetson at Z-275 without apparent injury. Huh? This does not hold water.

Thereafter, after tumbling through JBC's wrist, then CE-399 untumbled and made a small round hole entering JBC's pant leg, and burrowed into his leg. The WC version. Really?

OK, so the slug was removed from JBC in surgery (says JBC) but then ends up on the floor by elevators away from the surgery room. This despite well-known hospital regulations that all bullet wounds are reported to police and evidence retained. Hospital employee Tomlinson finds the CE-399 slug inexplicably lying on the floor, and gives it to OP Wright, hospital administrator and former police chief.

Wright says the Parkland Hospital slug had a pointy head, like most 30.06 slugs. A former cop said that.

The WC had a mandate:

Determine an LN leftie-loser-loner Marxist acted alone. LBJ told Richard Russell, and Earl Warren, he wanted no results that might trigger a nuke war. Reasonable enough concern.

Did LBJ suspect the Mafia, US-based right-wingers or US-intel types? Mossad?

Obviously not. He suspected G2 or KGB. He had good reasons.

Agreed.  I'm just saying there was no actual time that Oswald was supposed to be transferred; only that it was going to be after 10 AM.

Progress Zeon!  All very reasonable points.

You are beginning to realize that there is no way the evidence can fit a first shot miss.  However, I would not agree that JFK's reaction is delayed. It is rather difficult to accept that JFK is not reacting between z193 and before z224:



Neither JFK nor JBC had a delayed reaction. They both reacted at the same time to being hit by the same shot.

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JBC's reaction was not to being hit by it in the back/armpit. So his reaction will be delayed because he has to process the significance of the sound, realize that the President may have been hit by a rifle shot and begin to turn around to catch sight of the President.

Total BS. It's not even good BS.[uote]

Dan's first shot SBT scenario might be more persuasive if there was a reasonable explanation for JBC being absolutely sure that he was not hit in the back/armpit by the first shot - and if there was cogent evidence of a third shot miss. Also, the shot had to be a bit earlier than z224. 

 

Some - Robert Morrow - are, some aren't. Wackiness is in the eye of the beholder, but Robert is wacky by any standard.

In my opinion the WC was tasked with toeing the LN line and fulfilled its mission.

There was a definite mandate and agenda not to reach a conclusion pointing to the obvious suspects given Oswald's background: the Soviets and/or Cubans.

A cui bono analysis would have included all those you listed (and more) precisely because so many individuals and organizations despised JFK and stood to benefit from his death.

Indeed, it's quite an astonishing list. The WC legitimately started with Oswald since the Dealey Plaza evidence obviously pointed to him, yet the WC could articulate no clear motive.

The WC then did some level of cursory analysis concerning Oswald's possible connections to conspirators and found none.

Generations of researchers have been dissatisfied with the WC's and HSCA's analyses and continued the quest.

Cui bono points so strongly to LBJ and Marcello that it sometimes seems almost impossible they weren't involved.

But the cui bono inquiry simply says "Yes, they had a hell of a motive and should be looked at closely." The WC certainly didn't do this, so I have no problem with CT researchers digging more deeply.

As to what they have produced so far, I would say there is no credible or compelling evidence.

But this is very common in routine criminal cases as well; the cui bono inquiry may lead nowhere and the perpetrator who is finally arrested turns out never to have been on anyone's radar screen until he slipped up. That was my only point with LBJ: cui bono would say "Take a hard, close look at this guy."