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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Tippit Shooting At 1:15-1:16, FACT
« Last post by Martin Weidmann on Today at 12:37:50 AM »MW: Since when are hospital workers experts on time systems?
You don't need to be an "expert on time systems" to know that a clock is off.
MW: Show me their statements, please? I can't find their affidavits.
As I implied, we've already been over this. Nurse Thompson's statements come from Earl Golz' Dallas Morning News articles. Myers interviewed Moellenhoff. As I've pointed out previously.
MW: If the time system was indeed having problems, they could have easily get it repaired and obtain a written confirmation of what the problem was. I have never seen or heard this was ever done.
So? It don't mean that the clocks weren't off at Methodist that day.
MW: The official document authorizing an autopsy (written on November 22, 163 at 3:00 PM) says that Tippit was declared D.O.A. at 1:15 PM. If you want to dispute that time you will need a little bit more than an alleged statement by one or two hospital workers.
All I need are witnesses at the hospital at the time who say that the clock(s) in the ER were off that day.
The autopsy permit was generated by the Justice of the Peace at 3PM. The JoP was not located at Methodist hospital, and is therefore not independent confirmation of the time of death. If anything, the time is taken from the documentation generated at Methodist, so it is merely repeating information based on the same faulty clock used by Liguori.
MW: Even more so as the officers Davenport and Bardin observed the doctors trying to revive Tippit before declaring him dead at 1:15 PM (which implies that the ambulance actually arrived at the hospital before 1:15 PM). They also mention in their report that 15 minutes later Dr. Moellenhoff removed a bullet from Tippit's body. The only problem is that we don't know which time piece Davenport and Bardin used.
...and if that timepiece was the same one Ligouri used.....
MW: Dr. Earl Rose objected to the removal of Kennedy's body from Parkland Hospital on exactly that ground, but the Secret Service broke the law and took the casket anyway.
It wasn't until later in the afternoon that Texas AG Waggoner Carr and the US Dep of Justice jointly came to the conclusion that JFK's death was not covered under existing US law. Rose was asserting Texas laws regarding the movement of the deceased across county lines.
MW: Since when are hospital workers experts on time systems?
You don't need to be an "expert on time systems" to know that a clock is off.
Really? And how did they know that the clock was off? Are you suggesting that their clocks were correct and the hospital clocks were not?
MW: Show me their statements, please? I can't find their affidavits.
As I implied, we've already been over this. Nurse Thompson's statements come from Earl Golz' Dallas Morning News articles. Myers interviewed Moellenhoff. As I've pointed out previously.
So where is the transcript of the interview?
MW: If the time system was indeed having problems, they could have easily get it repaired and obtain a written confirmation of what the problem was. I have never seen or heard this was ever done.
So? It don't mean that the clocks weren't off at Methodist that day.
It also doesn't mean they were off
MW: The official document authorizing an autopsy (written on November 22, 163 at 3:00 PM) says that Tippit was declared D.O.A. at 1:15 PM. If you want to dispute that time you will need a little bit more than an alleged statement by one or two hospital workers.
All I need are witnesses at the hospital at the time who say that the clock(s) in the ER were off that day.
Nope... the opinion of a "witness" is utterly meaningless if it can not be verified.
The autopsy permit was generated by the Justice of the Peace at 3PM. The JoP was not located at Methodist hospital, and is therefore not independent confirmation of the time of death. If anything, the time is taken from the documentation generated at Methodist, so it is merely repeating information based on the same faulty clock used by Liguori.
The problem with your pathetic theory is that somebody informed the Justice of the Peace about the D.O.A. time and that person could get into serious problems if incorrect information was communicated.
Explain to me why the person who informed the Justice of the Peace would risk their job by providing false information?
MW: Even more so as the officers Davenport and Bardin observed the doctors trying to revive Tippit before declaring him dead at 1:15 PM (which implies that the ambulance actually arrived at the hospital before 1:15 PM). They also mention in their report that 15 minutes later Dr. Moellenhoff removed a bullet from Tippit's body. The only problem is that we don't know which time piece Davenport and Bardin used.
...and if that timepiece was the same one Ligouri used.....
So far, you haven't been able to even come close to proving that the clocks at the hospital were indeed off. All you have is the opinion of one doctor who Dale Myers interviewed, but you can't even produce that transcript of that interview. So, basically, you've got nothing.
That's at best an assumption for which you haven't got a shred of evidence. The fact remains that Davenport confirmed the D.O.A. time at 1:15 PM.
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