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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Jarrett Smith on Yesterday at 05:20:13 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:04:00 AM
   This is exactly why the Dem's shut the govt down. Slow the economy and the numbers that make that plain. And then there's the Billions In Theft in blue states.  too. Minn and Calif are absolute cesspools.

Democrats big plan was to flood the country with illegal's and give them voting rights. Trump has stopped that and we see the results. Democrats have lost the white vote, a larger percentage of the black vote, and the Latino vote. They can no longer win a national election.

Comrade Graves, I hate to break your heart, but groceries have come down in price where I live. Eggs are $.99 Dz, butter 3.49#, orange juice $2.99, chuck roast $5.99#, and 80% ground beef was $3.49# last week I stocked up.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:19:48 AM »
  Fedora Man was NOT standing in the street. And the "getaway" car is 17+ feet long and 5 feet high. If it was there, it would stand out like nobody's business.
  You can see the surface street behind Fedora Man. There is nothing behind him. And the surface street we are seeing behind Fedora Man is identical to the surface street we see behind the ladies to the (R) of the Island.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:04:00 AM »
Quote from: Jarrett Smith on February 22, 2026, 08:19:03 PM
Groceries in my neck of the woods have really dropped since Trump took office. Gas, heating fuel, everything lower.

   This is exactly why the Dem's shut the govt down. Slow the economy and the numbers that make that plain. And then there's the Billions In Theft in blue states.  too. Minn and Calif are absolute cesspools.   
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Circumstantial evidence that LHO and Marina were KGB agents
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 04:31:20 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 12:34:25 AM
It is hard to believe...the EF is being run by an anti-Semitic left-wing crackpot---and martinet to boot.

And so the JFKA research community sinks into the mire (but self-righteously!).

Are you a right-wing Zionist by any chance?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Asking AI" Was J Kenneth McDonald a Well-Regarded Historian?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 03:23:26 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 01:02:38 AM
Of course there is such a thing as a CIA "contract source." It is the same as a "contract agent."

LOL!

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McDonald was free to use nomenclature as he saw fit and did not have to subscribe to certain specific bureaucratic definitions.


Yes! And if he'd wanted to, J. Kenneth could have called his cobbled-together report the product of a "hysterical review" and everyone would have known exactly what he meant!

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As it stands, do you verify you never looked through the 64 physical boxes of HSCA materials that McDonald and his staff did?

Are you saying that J. Kenneth and at least one member of his staff read every document in the 64 boxes, or that various and sundry staff members collectively read all of them and kinda told him what they were about?

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BTW, McDonald and his staff looked at other materials in addition to the 64 boxes.

[...]


BFD.

Pardon my German.

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Have you also reviewed all the records that McDonald reviewed at CIA headquarters and the Warrenton Records Center? Are you confident those records, [sic; why put a comma here?] in the CIA HQ and the Warrenton Records Center [sic; given that you put a comma earlier in the sentence, why didn't you put one here?] are also online? Are [sic] you saw each one in your online searches?

Don't feel bad, "BC."

To err is human.

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I gather you are shooting in the dark.

You are doing the CT-thing...leaping to conclusions with partial information, following your biases.

Well, it is JFKA research, so have had it. A rather low bar to participate.

Why are you putting the burden of trying to "prove a negative" on my widdle buddy, Freddy, "BC"?

It seems to me that the burden's on you to prove "the positive," i.e., that the CIA used (and maybe still uses!) the expression "contract source" to mean "contract agent."

Ball's in your court, "BC."


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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 03:13:45 AM »
Quote from: James Hackerott on Yesterday at 02:01:43 AM
Thanks to Tom for identification of the “Getaway Car” as a 1958 Pontiac Bonneville sedan. For my 3D model I was able to make texture maps of that model. Texture maps are 2D and can be placed in my 3D model but not as solid objects. I pasted the sides, front and rear texture maps to form a perimeter of the car. See the elevated view attachment.

My goal was to model this into a simulated Wiegman frame overlay with an actual Wiegman frame. I spent one or two days trying to fit the model to a Death in Dealey Plaza (DiDP) frame without success. I finally remembered that DiDP frames were asymmetrically cropped, and aspect ratio compromised. I used a NFV video frame for the full frame that worked pretty good with the model.  The second attachment summarizes that overlay, with varying amount of transparency.   

These renderings are updates to previous versions.

James




James,

I may be wrong, but I think Royell's "Getaway Car" is too far to the left in your lower montage.

I say this for two reasons:

1) In Wiegman, the "rocket ship exhaust" design on the side of the car by "Fedora Man's" crossed arm looks wide and therefore nearer the end of the car, and

2) We can see the somewhat rounded end of the "Getaway Car" where it is darker colored than the light-colored car across Elm Street Extension and with which it visually merges to a certain degree.

Regardless, keep up the good work!

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by James Hackerott on Yesterday at 02:01:43 AM »
Thanks to Tom for identification of the “Getaway Car” as a 1958 Pontiac Bonneville sedan. For my 3D model I was able to make texture maps of that model. Texture maps are 2D and can be placed in my 3D model but not as solid objects. I pasted the sides, front and rear texture maps to form a perimeter of the car. See the elevated view attachment.

My goal was to model this into a simulated Wiegman frame overlay with an actual Wiegman frame. I spent one or two days trying to fit the model to a Death in Dealey Plaza (DiDP) frame without successes. I finally remembered that DiDP frames were asymmetrically cropped, and aspect ratio compromised. I used a NFV video frame for the full frame that worked pretty good with the model.  The second attachment summarizes that overlay, with varying amount of transparency.   

These renderings are updates to previous versions.

James



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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Asking AI" Was J Kenneth McDonald a Well-Regarded Historian?
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 01:02:38 AM »
FL--

Of course there is such a thing as a CIA  "contract source." It is the same as a "contract agent."

McDonald was free to use nomenclature as he saw fit, and did not have to subscribe to certain specific bureaucratic definitions.

As it stands, do you verify you never looked through the 64 physical boxes of HSCA materials that McDonald and his staff did?

BTW, McDonald and his staff looked at other materials in addition to the 64 boxes.



Have you also reviewed all the records that McDonald reviewed at CIA headquarters and the Warrenton Records Center?

Are you confident those records, in the CIA HQ and the Warrenton Records Center are also online? Are you saw each one in your online searches?

I gather you are shooting in the dark.

You are doing the CT-thing...leaping to conclusions with partial information, following your biases.

Well, it is JFKA research, so have had it. A rather low bar to participate.





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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Circumstantial evidence that LHO and Marina were KGB agents
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 12:34:25 AM »
It is hard to believe...the EF is being run by an anti-Semitic left-wing crackpot---and martinet to boot.

And so the JFKA research community sinks into the mire (but self-righteously!).
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Asking AI" Was J Kenneth McDonald a Well-Regarded Historian?
« Last post by Tom Graves on February 22, 2026, 10:25:37 PM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on February 22, 2026, 01:15:23 PM
Tom Graves suggests McDonald's work was "cobbled together."

Would you prefer "fabricated"?
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