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35 seconds to get towards the back of the first floor is loads of time.
From the lobby to the area near the elevators is covered in 20 seconds at a normal walking pace.
That leaves 15 seconds for them to get from their positions in the Darnell pic to the front door.
It would take Lovelady 3 seconds to get from his position on the steps to the front door, it's a few steps!
They could spend another 10 seconds listening to Gloria before they made it towards the back of the first floor, easily.
You've not really thought about this.
There is absolutely no need to extend any timelines.

   I have thought about this a lot. For starters, you gotta have Calvery in position on the TSDB Steps lickety split. She is Not on any Single Image racing down the sidewalk or in the street heading toward the TSBD front door. There is absolutely nothing supporting her being there talking with Lovelady on the TSBD front steps only :15 seconds after the kill shot. I fully appreciate the quicker you put Calvery on those steps, also serves to support my theory of those 2 Guys walking alongside the "Getaway" Car were originally inside that same car. Still, I believe the individuals filmed by Darnell & Couch been given an accelerated time stamping. 
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Gunsmoke On the Plaza

The 1974 book Murder From Within by Fred Newcombe may come to an unproved conclusion that Lyndon Johnson organized his predecessor?s murder, but like so many earnest researchers Newcombe waded through the documents and testimony, and registered clues that were totally missed or ignored by the Warren Commission, and even effectively overlooked by the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
Give Newcombe credit; he noticed that at least nine witnesses?and many experienced witnesses no less?smelled the distinctive, telltale scent of gunsmoke in Dealey Plaza immediately after the assassination, including most famously Texas Senator Ralph Yarborough, a World War II veteran. Riding in the motorcade in a car behind the president?s, Yarborough said smelled gunpowder on Elm Street and that it clung to his car throughout the race to Parkland Hospital.

Perhaps engaging in a little journalistic license, a newspaper reported that ?seconds later the [presidential] cavalcade was gone [from Dealey Plaza]. The area still reeked with the smell of gunpowder.?

Later, the Aussie detective Colin McLaren would say he counted 22 witnesses at street level who smelled gunsmoke that day in Dealey Plaza, for his regrettable video that concludes a Secret Service man accidentally shot President Kennedy. But the headcount was a worthy yeoman duty.

JFK assassination researchers, of course, are more than aware that railroad workers on the Triple Overpass (most notably S.M. Holland), and Lee Bowers in the Union Terminal Co.?s two-story observation tower in the railroad parking lot behind the Grassy Knoll, said they saw a puff of gunsmoke concurrent to gunshots, and then smoke lingering in the trees atop the Grassy Knoll shortly thereafter.

The ?sniper?s nest? in the TSBD was about 80 yards from the Grassy Knoll, and downwind that day.

Patrolman Joe M. Smith

But perhaps Dallas Police Department Patrolman Joe M. Smith is the most interesting and best witness, ?best? as he can be assumed to be very familiar with vehicular exhaust and gunsmoke.

Yeah, gun powder smells like exhaust fumes. The odor of gun powder was noticed right after the shots were fired. I see no way that the gun powder could have come all the way down from the sixth-floor window so quickly, especially given the size of the area in which witnesses smelled the odor.

Keep in mind, too, that a number of witnesses also saw gunsmoke coming from a certain area right behind the picket fence on the knoll, and a cloud of apparent gunsmoke is visible in this vicinity in the Wiegman film. It could not have been exhaust fumes, nor could it have come from the steam pipe some 100 feet behind the fence.

As for a diversion, I think it's more likely that the sixth-floor window was the diversion. The gunman made no effort to conceal his presence from outside viewers. Five witnesses saw a gunman in the sixth-floor window. The gunman could have stood farther back from the window, which would have made it harder to see him and would have somewhat reduced the sound of his rifle firing.

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A lot of screenshots providing better images that what is usually circulating on the Internet.

https://jfkassassinationdocumentaries.wordpress.com/2015/09/24/unsolved-mystery-jfk-conspiracy/

A very useful compilation of information on JFKA-related videos and documentaries.
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MTG--

Evidently I am more odious than you! I am still banned from the EF-JFKA.

I know why you're still banned: The conspiracy in your conspiracy theory is way too small!  :) :) :)
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 12:09:35 AM »
Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Regardless of where CE-339 was found, how did the bad guys ensure that it had marks from Oswald's Carcano on it, that it was deformed so strangely, and that it was deformed in such a way that perfectly matched JBC's wounds?

-- Tom

deformed in such a way that perfectly matched JBC's wounds?

 :D :D :D
So, let me get this right, in your world the "bad guys" knew that JBC's radius had been shattered by a direct hit, one of the most dense bones in the human body, and they thought that CE399 represented that damage??
You really think that someone faking an injury like that would come up with CE399??
Get back to blowing the KGB, where you belong.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on July 31, 2026, 11:55:34 PM »
In this stupid story that you've swallowed down, like the moron you are, there is not a speck of evidence that CE399 was found in Parkland.
ZERO EVIDENCE
You don't even realise this.
You think that by repeating the Warren Commission's lies you are somehow presenting evidence.
You clearly don't understand what 'evidence' even means.
You are so brain-washed you think that by just saying what you have been told to think makes it true, and that everyone else should be able to see that.

THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE THAT CE399 WAS DISCOVERED IN PARKLAND

ZERO

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Regardless of where CE-339 was found, how did the bad guys ensure that it had marks from Oswald's Carcano on it, that it was deformed so strangely, and that it was deformed in such a way that perfectly matched JBC's wounds?

-- Tom

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on July 31, 2026, 11:50:04 PM »
The CE-399 chain of custody issue is a red herring that was dreamed up by the CT crowd as an excuse to dismiss one of the damning pieces of evidence of Oswald's guilt.

I'd like to know how tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorists think (sic) the bad guys fired the CE-399 bullet in Oswald's Carcano in such a way that it ended up so unusually deformed -- and deformed in a way that matched the wounds to JBC's back, rib, chest, rib, and thigh.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on July 31, 2026, 11:46:18 PM »
CE399 was discovered by Darrel Tomlinson. He summoned Parkland security chief O.P. Wright.
O.P Wright took possession of the bullet and delivered it to Secret Service agent Richard Johnsen.
Richard Johnsen handed the bullet to Secret Service Chief James Rowley.
James Rowley delivered the bullet to FBI agent Elmer Todd.
Elmer Todd delivered the bullet to Robert Frazier of the FBI crime lab.
Robert Frazier and everyone who handled the bullet at the crime lab initialed it.
Had the case gone to trial, every person in this chain would have testified who delivered the bullet to them and to whom they passed it on to.
That is all that would be required to establish a legal chain of custody.
You probably don't even realize you are a dumbass.
The chain of custody issue is a red herring that was dreamed up by the CT crowd as an excuse to dismiss one of the damning pieces of evidence of Oswald's guilt.
CE399 was positively matched to Oswald's rifle because it was fired by Oswald's rifle by Oswald when he shot JFK and JBC with it..

In this stupid story that you've swallowed down, like the moron you are, there is not a speck of evidence that CE399 was found in Parkland.
ZERO EVIDENCE
You don't even realise this.
You think that by repeating the Warren Commission's lies you are somehow presenting evidence.
You clearly don't understand what 'evidence' even means.
You are so brain-washed you think that by just saying what you have been told to think makes it true, and that everyone else should be able to see that.

THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE THAT CE399 WAS DISCOVERED IN PARKLAND

ZERO




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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on July 31, 2026, 11:20:28 PM »
I will accept any evidence you can produce that CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland.

CE399 was discovered by Darrel Tomlinson. He summoned Parkland security chief O.P. Wright.
O.P Wright took possession of the bullet and delivered it to Secret Service agent Richard Johnsen.
Richard Johnsen handed the bullet to Secret Service Chief James Rowley.
James Rowley delivered the bullet to FBI agent Elmer Todd.
Elmer Todd delivered the bullet to Robert Frazier of the FBI crime lab.
Robert Frazier and everyone who handled the bullet at the crime lab initialed it.
Had the case gone to trial, every person in this chain would have testified who delivered the bullet to them and to whom they passed it on to.
That is all that would be required to establish a legal chain of custody.
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NO SUCH EVIDENCE EXISTS.

All you can do is lie to yourself about it.
You probably don't even realise you're lying to yourself about it.

You probably don't even realize you are a dumbass.
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What are you going to do when you realise that there is zero evidence that CE399 was ever found at Parkland?
Are you going to do a Payette, and disappear?

Seriously, what does it mean to you that there is no evidence that CE399 was found at Parkland?

The chain of custody issue is a red herring that was dreamed up by the CT crowd as an excuse to dismiss one of the damning pieces of evidence of Oswald's guilt.
CE399 was positively matched to Oswald's rifle because it was fired by Oswald's rifle by Oswald when he shot JFK and JBC with it..
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   Based on the accepted timeline, Lovelady/Shelley have :35 to get back to the far corner/Stairwell on the TSBD 1st Floor. And Lovelady is Not even facing the TSBD at the beginning of this :35 second mark. If I am to accept they went through the TSBD front door, the timelines have to be reset/extended. I do Not believe we are seeing Officer Baker running across the Island at :20 Seconds after the kill shot. These timelines have been Quickened/Manipulated in order for Officer Baker to glimpse Oswald on the other side of the vestibule door leading into the 2nd Floor lunchroom.

35 seconds to get towards the back of the first floor is loads of time.
From the lobby to the area near the elevators is covered in 20 seconds at a normal walking pace.
That leaves 15 seconds for them to get from their positions in the Darnell pic to the front door.
It would take Lovelady 3 seconds to get from his position on the steps to the front door, it's a few steps!
They could spend another 10 seconds listening to Gloria before they made it towards the back of the first floor, easily.
You've not really thought about this.
There is absolutely no need to extend any timelines.

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