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Dang, I see ol’ Tom Scully lurking’ around heah.  Hey Tom, I was waybackin’ the let’s roll forums recently and got hit with some nostalgia.  Still keeping Pace with it all?
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Why is that clear. What is clear is she didn't remember things happened the way Zapruder's camera did.
You can be too close to an event to see it clearly. It narrows the focus.
Are you serious? She just saw her husband seriously wounded and the President murdered in a gruesome way and you think she would just calmly take it all in. Ridiculous
Neither's testimony spot on. JFK's arms did not remain locked in a raised postion. By Z312 his elbows were back down.

Why is that clear. What is clear is she didn't remember things happened the way Zapruder's camera did.

Sure, she did. She did remember things happened the way Zapruder's film did. BC and Nelly watched the film in the hospital. JBC had two completely different statements concerning the assassination. Now you know why.

Mr. SPECTER. I have just one other question, Governor. With respect to the films and the slides which you have viewed this morning, had you ever seen those pictures before this morning?
Governor CONNALLY. I had seen what purported to be a copy of the film when I was in the hospital in Dallas. I had not seen the slides.

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Because they saw it in 3 dimensions up close and with sound. You just have a grainy low quality and shaky film that is missing the sound track.

With perfect recall.
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Was he shot earlier in the motorcade? Witnesses said he was waving to people on the right when the first shot sounded and he immediately reacted to it.  Where else do you see that occurring?

Once again you make the foolish mistake of assuming what a witness has said is an established fact. You'll never figure out the JFKA as long as you have that mindset.
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They likely would not have to make notes to remember seeing the President right in front of them being assassinated.  The image would have been seared into their memories for life.

There's no reason to think the position of the car would have been "seared into their memories for life".
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Why do you need somebody to tell you that. If you would open your eyes, you can see it for yourself.
Because they saw it in 3 dimensions up close and with sound. You just have a grainy low quality and shaky film that is missing the sound track.
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The only change in JFK after Z193 is he quit waving at the people to the right. There's lot's of footage of JFK not waving at various points in the motorcade. Why would anyone think that is significant.

Was he shot earlier in the motorcade? Witnesses said he was waving to people on the right when the first shot sounded and he immediately reacted to it.  Where else do you see that occurring?
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I'm sure everyone's immediate reaction to the gunshot was to take note of the limo's position on Elm St.  <chuckle>
They likely would not have to make notes to remember seeing the President right in front of them being assassinated.  The image would have been seared into their memories for life.
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In Either scenario, a 3rd shot fired after Z313 is plausible.

Plausible - if it was not for the mountain of evidence that the head shot was the last shot: All occupants of the limo and Secret service car, Altgens, Gayle and Bill Newman, Zapruder.

2.3 seconds after z313 is z345. Clint Hill had reached the car by z345.  One might wonder why anyone would try to shoot with JFK in this position:



Besides, it also makes no sense that the shooter would take another shot after seeing the results of the head shot.
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And there we have it....  this is what Mitch's games are all about.

He can't tell me what is wrong with the evidence I have provided, and he hasn't got answers....

I've played this game before with him and it always plays out the same way.. That's why I said it's a pointless conversation.
The Weidmann method:

1.) Make unsupported assertion.

2.) Demand that the other guy find evidence for said unsupported assertion

3.) Whine that the other guy is "playing games"

4.) When the other guy points out the games you play, whine some more.

 :D
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The Weidmann method:

1.) Make unsupported assertion.

2.) Demand that the other guy find evidence for said unsupported assertion

3.) Whine that the other guy is "playing games"

 :D

And there we have it....  this is what Mitch's games are all about.

He can't tell me what is wrong with the evidence I have provided, and he hasn't got answers....

I've played this game before with him and it always plays out the same way.. That's why I said it's a pointless conversation.
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So a 2nd shooter on the garage roof over the gate and just behind this sign fired one additional shot that was not heard? He must have fired the Z313 shot because he had a better quality rifle with a correctly zeroed scope and his plan was one shot one kill.

But this cannot be right because 3/4ths witness heard 3 shots with the last 2 very close together. And Harold Norman heard 3 shots from above him.

So this 2nd shooter must have been almost as stupid as the 6th floor TSBD patsy shooter since he didn’t use a suppressor and fire a subsonic round. He just figured one shot from his typical loud sounding rifle would  be heard from slightly different direction and then he would quickly escape unseen from the garage roof by … ( this part must be completed by Royell Storing)    Thumb1:

     There were multiple eyewitness accounts of at least 1 shot being fired from the bushes/shrubs that run along the Elm St Extension. Either a shot was fired directly from the other side of those bushes/shrubs, or through the trees directly Above these same bushes/shrubs. That shot would be a Miss/Lost Bullet. Maybe striking the Tague Curb, or near the manhole cover on the (S) side of Elm St.

                                                                      - A Possible Escape Route From Above The Huge Gates -

    There are TSBD 2nd Floor windows that hugged the roof above the Huge Gates. The final TSBD window on the other end of this Roof is right next to the stairwell that Oswald is alleged to have used. A shooter atop the Huge Gates could escape by: (1) Walking along the roof, (2) climbing through that final window, (3) immediately entering the stairwell, (4) exiting the stairwell onto the rear of the TSBD 1st Floor, (5) then walking directly onto the loading dock behind the Huge Gates, (5) exiting the loading dock through the "wide open" Huge Gates, (6) emerging onto the Elm St Extension, and (7) getting into the "getaway" car that is parked only feet away. The "getaway" car having been put in motion down the Elm St Extension upon the sound of shots being fired.
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