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She said the first shot didn't hit anybody in the limo. Deal with it.

If the first, "backfire-like," shot had hit JFK or JBC, Woodward would have noticed it.

She said JFK "slumped" after the second shot, and that Jackie stood up and fell on top of JFK after the third-and-final shot.

Although Woodward was wrong to say that JFK and Jackie turned, smiled, and waved at her and her three colleagues before the first, missing-everything, shot, she was correct in saying that both of them turned, smiled, and waved at them at some point.

As to when, exactly, they did that, we can see that JFK, having just turned his head back from his left to his right, is waving at them from about Z-175 on, and we can see that Jackie, who was looking to her left until about Z-175, is looking straight-ahead-ish in Z-180, and has turned her head far to her right in Z-190 (presumably she isn't scowling at Woodward and Co. and giving them the finger, but smiling and waving at them, like her husband).

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z190.jpg

Jackie is still looking far to her right when she emerges from behind the Stemmons Freeway sign in Z-221.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z221.jpg
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A big "if".  Not only did Woodward know where she was standing, she described it in detail in her FBI statement: "They walked to Elm Street and stopped in front of the Texas School Book Depository building, but were located a short distance down the street near the second light post. There were standing in this spot when the Presidential Motorcade came by." 

She then went on to tell the FBI that they cheered loudly as the President and Mrs. Kennedy  went by. "Just as President and Mrs. Kennedy went by, they turned and waved at them. Just a second or two later (ie. after JFK and Jackie turned and waved at them) she heard a loud noise."

JFK began that turn and wave at z172. A second after that is z190.  Two seconds is z208.

    So just where do you believe the "2nd light post" was? The Woodward description you have posted above is consistent with her originally claiming to be within 10 ft of the Newman Family/ people covering a child. As pictured, Woodward was closer to the 1st light post and the RL Thornton sign. She had No Idea where she stood and her memory lapse extended into her, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy", interview 25 yrs after the fact. 
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Is that what you took from what I wrote? JBC didn't turn around and face JFK until more than two seconds after he was shot. The flipping of his right arm was almost immediate. It happened less than 1/4 second after he was hit.

   What you are describing probably qualifies for the Guinness World Record, "Longest Delayed Reaction To Multiple Major Injuries".
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The agents who examined the hole when the limo was taken back to the White House garage said the windshield was struck from the inside and that there was no hole through the windshield.

   What you are you referring to was done AFTER the JFK Limo was gone through while being flown back to DC. And THAT was done after the Scrub Bucket was taken to it at Parkland Hospital. That murder scene was tampered with Before it arrived in DC.
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All anyone needs to know about Horne is that he recycled David Lifton's ridiculous body snatching theory that proposes clandestine surgery was conducted on the corpse to disguise the true nature of the wounds. That theory is so preposterous it should be dismissed out of hand. Only the most gullible of CTs would consider it the least bit plausible.

Peter Janney and Doug Horne : William L Mitchell testified at the Mary Meyer murder trial in DC in 1965, and then disappeared.
He resided at the time at 1500 Arlington Blvd,  Apt. 1022, Arlington, Va.
Author Leo Damore met with Mitchell later and confessed to Damore that he, Mitchell, was a CIA assassin who shot Mary Meyer, Before his
suicide, Damore passed Mitchell's confession to Damore's attorney.


Me, to Jim Fetzer :

Quote
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/19367-%E2%80%9Cmary%E2%80%99s-mosaic%E2%80%9D-a-litmus-test-of-jfk-research-integrity/

You've got a PhD, but you couldn't anticipate this surfacing?

Directory of Computer Education and Research: Volume 3

books.google.com T. C. Hsiao - 1973 - 1800 pages

MITCHELL, WILLIAM L. - Assistant Professor of Business Administration

Department of Management Sciences School of Business and Economics CALIFORNIA

STATE UNIVERSITY, HAYWARD

........
https://books.google.com/books?id=w1ZVAAAAYAAJ&q=MITCHELL,+WILLIAM+L.+1500+Arlington+Blvd.,+Apt.+1022,+Arlington,+Va.&dq=MITCHELL,+WILLIAM+L.+1500+Arlington+Blvd.,+Apt.+1022,+Arlington,+Va.&source=bl&ots=AxBvmeErTr&sig=cySzLftQyi0AqpM1uSeJJmwRhDI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ryAiUNvWPI-G8QTunIHYAg&sqi=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA

 American Mathematical Society, Mathematical Association of America, Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics - 1965 - Snippet view

...... MITCHELL, WILLIAM L. I Pentagon, OR Group, Systems Dept., USADSC, Washington, D. C. 1500 Arlington Blvd., Apt. 1022, Arlington, Va. MITCHELL,

Edited August 11, 2012 by Tom Scully


Doug Horne's reaction.Takes a minute to load...

https://web.archive.org/web/20210615060333/http://jfkforum.com/images/JanneyHorneReacts.jpg
 


Meanwhile, author Janney, with his mother on her death bed, took the Berkely, CA address I had provided of Dr. Mitchell and
flew to California, knocked on Mitchell's door, recording their exchange. Mitchell refused to open his door after Janney explained why
he was there and in so many words, told Janney to GFH. Two years later Janney managed to depose Mitchell in Oakland, CA!
Sometimes a math professor can only be proven to be..... a math professor.

in the first of two revisions of his book, Dr. Peter Janney, psychologist and the son of the personnel director of the CIA, admitted that I
was not concealing my name when I emailed a crony of Janney, a UGA law professor, advising him to reconsider his favorable review of Janney's book.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Mary_s_Mosaic/OGOCDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mary%27s+mosaic+tom+scully+law+professor&pg=PT348&printsec=frontcover
Mary's Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. Kennedy, ...
books.google.com › books
Peter Janney · 2016
Found inside
... Tom Scully, but he would identify himself on Amazon only as “Rational Voice.” Discussing his critical post of Mary's Mosaic in an email to a University of Georgia law professor, Scully identified himself as “a moderator at the Internet ...
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She said the first shot didn't hit anybody in the limo. Deal with it.
She didn't say that.  She said: "Things are a little hazy from this point, but I don't believe anyone was hit with the first bullet." 
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Oh. poor Billy is upset, because he gets called out to present evidence he can't provide. What a loser!

And btw, you haven't gotten anything done. This is not the first time that I have caught you in a lie and it won't be the last.

It's a process.  It's taking time.  Once everything is finished, it'll get posted.  Could be another month; could be another year.  Hold your breath, please.
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Since I have never waded through Horne's five-volume ARRB epic, I did wonder if he mentions the Sprague memo or Burkley? If anyone knows, chime in.

With all the wacky things that get attention, I am flummoxed - flummoxed, I tell you - that the Sprague memo and the whole Burkley things just seems to have vanished into the JFKA mist.

All anyone needs to know about Horne is that he recycled David Lifton's ridiculous body snatching theory that proposes clandestine surgery was conducted on the corpse to disguise the true nature of the wounds. That theory is so preposterous it should be dismissed out of hand. Only the most gullible of CTs would consider it the least bit plausible.
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A big "if".  Not only did Woodward know where she was standing, she described it in detail in her FBI statement: "They walked to Elm Street and stopped in front of the Texas School Book Depository building, but were located a short distance down the street near the second light post. There were standing in this spot when the Presidential Motorcade came by." 

She then went on to tell the FBI that they cheered loudly as the President and Mrs. Kennedy  went by. "Just as President and Mrs. Kennedy went by, they turned and waved at them. Just a second or two later (ie. after JFK and Jackie turned and waved at them) she heard a louse noise."

JFK began that turn and wave at z172. A second after that is z190.  Two seconds is z208.

She said the first shot didn't hit anybody in the limo. Deal with it.
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You mean a witch hunt for those who don't agree with your own narrative or the official narrative? This is a forum to debate whether the official narrative is credible and whether there are alternative narratives. Like I told you earlier, you cannot go through life assuming all official narratives are true, its both submissive and counter productive. Look at the number of people wrongly convicted of murder in the past then released after DNA evidence proved their innocence. All those narratives were wrong and the JFKA official narrative can also be wrong.
This is not a witch hunt.

There are alternate narratives but there is only one truth and that is that Oswald fired the shots that struck and killed JFK and about 45 minutes later gunned down a Dallas cop. Any conspiracy theory hinges on the ability to provide evidence that Oswald acted in concert with one or more individuals in the murder of JFK. To date, no such credible evidence has ever been provided. Just lots of nonsense.
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