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The clincher for me was watching Lt. Col. (Ret.) Dan Marvin's interview for the documentary The Men Who Killed Kennedy. Ted Yacucci includes this segment in his video on the Pitzer case, The Murder of Naval Commander William Pitzer. The segment is broken into two parts: the first part starts at 12:42 and ends at 15:40, and the second part runs from 18:17 to the end of the video (22:06). (From 15:41 to 18:16 there is part of an interview with Dennis David about Pitzer.)

Marvin comes across as sincere, well spoken, educated, and serious. I was especially impressed with his emotional expression of concern over what his family would think of him after he revealed his previous role as a military assassin and his expression of hope that his disclosure would be helpful to the nation. I find him to be an entirely credible witness.

I don't think any honest, objective person could watch Marvin's interview and come away believing he was "one of the worst of the hoaxers/crackpots." He was nothing of the kind. Nigel Turner's investigators verified Marvin's service, verified his stationing on Fort Bragg at the time he said he was approached by the CIA officer about killing Pitzer, and verified that there was a Captain David Vanek assigned to his unit at the time.

For an in-depth online review of the Pitzer case, I recommend Jeff Crudele's video The Mystery of William Bruce Pitzer And An Interview with his Nephew Bruce Fernandez. Much of the video is an interview with Pitzer's nephew Bruce Fernandez. Crudele displays the FBI document on Pitzer's death so you can see the source for yourself.

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The overpressure that would result in the witnessed brain splatter is of such a force that the intact brain in evidence would be impossible by science...Paul O'Connor said the remaining brain in Kennedy's head was small enough to fit in the palm of a hand...It would be impossible for this remnant brain to weigh above an average brain...Bugliosi equivocated around it but never answered this...

Obviously the swapped brain had to be gotten rid of because the plotters realized it would expose the conspiracy...
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It is remarkable that WC apologists who (correctly) accept the EOP entry site refuse to admit that the EOP site proves the autopsy brain photos are fraudulent.

It is remarkable that MTG considers himself to be competent to make such a judgement.
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Yes, I agree: The evidence strongly favors the EOP site. I was encouraged to see Lance Payette state that he is convinced by Pat Speer's arguments for the EOP site. Dr. Larry Sturdivan, the former HSCA wound ballistics consultant, argues for the EOP site in his book The JFK Myths: A Scientific Investigation of the Kennedy Assassination. Dr. David Mantik likewise argues for the EOP site in his 2024 book The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis. Dr. Joseph Riley, a neuroanatomist, argued for the EOP site and noted that the area of the brain beneath the phantom cowlick entry site is undamaged:

We have autopsy photographs that show the top of JFK's head. Everyone agrees (including Dr. Bob Artwohl) that intact cerebral cortex is visible. If you are a neuroanatomist, you can identify the cerebral cortex (superior parietal lobule visible). What's the significance of that? Simple: that is the
part of cortex that is immediately under the high entrance wound -- so, the brain at the point of the high entrance wound is not damaged. Now that is indeed a magic bullet. ("What Struck John?" pp. 4-5, https://kenrahn.com/Marsh/Autopsy/riley.html)


Five autopsy witnesses -- Sibert, O'Neill, Lipsey, Stringer, and Kellerman -- said the rear head entry wound was near the EOP or the hairline. The three autopsy doctors insisted to their dying days that the EOP site was correct.

Not surprising that a person totally unqualified to render judgements about the medical evidence would cite other people totally unqualified to render judgements about the medical evidence.
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The problem is that the brain photos show no damage whatsoever to the right occipital lobe, but a bullet that entered near the EOP could not have missed tearing through the right occipital lobe, as the HSCA FPP correctly pointed out. The FPP hammered the autopsy doctors on this point, and they had no explanation for it. However, the FPP argument against the EOP site only works if the brain photos are authentic.

MTG tries to substitute his judgement of what the medical evidence is based on a few leaked photos and x-rays for the unanimous judgement of a panel of some of the most highly qualified forensic medical examiners of their day who saw ALL the photos and ALL the x-rays. So who should we believe? MTG or the FPP? Of course, the question answers itself.
It is remarkable that WC apologists who (correctly) accept the EOP entry site refuse to admit that the EOP site proves the autopsy brain photos are fraudulent.

The evidence that the brain photos are fraudulent is truly impressive. As experts from both sides have confirmed, the brain photos show "less than 1-2 ounces" of missing brain tissue. Yet, multiple sets of optical-density measurements have confirmed that about 2/3 of the right brain is missing in the autopsy skull x-rays, a fact that Dr. Fred Hodges noted in 1975 when he served on the Rockefeller Commission's medical panel. Humes himself told JAMA that 2/3 of the right cerebrum was blasted away. A number of witnesses who saw the brain said that 1/4 to 1/2 of it was missing. And, we have a veritable mountain of eyewitness testimony that bits of JFK's brain were blown or fell onto 16 surfaces, and that's not counting the "large chunk of brain" that Jackie brought into the ER and handed to Dr. Jenkins. [/quote]

The evidence that MTG is an amateur hack trying to perform analysis that requires years of medical training and experience is truly impressive.
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Only those who are emotionally committed to believing in the lone-gunman theory will continue to believe the autopsy brain photos are genuine.

Only extremely gullible CT fanatics would believe MTG is competent to make such judgements based an a smattering of the medical evidence he has seen.
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Note how Secret Service Agent George Hickey, having heard what he thought was a firecracker, leans far over and looks down at the pavement starting around Z-145, about one second after Oswald's first, missing-everything shot at hypothetical "Z-124," half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133.

Note how Secret Service Agent Jack Ready, on the passenger side running board, leans over to his right and turns his head around during the same time frame, and how Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett, below him, leans over far to his right, too. (He said he started looking at JFK after the firecracker-like sound and that he saw a bullet hit him in the back.)

JFK turns his head quickly to his left starting in Z-144 and then turns it back to his right and starts waving to Mary Woodward and her three journalism colleagues around Z-175.

Governor Connally, having heard the first shot and recognized it as such, first turns his head quickly to his left starting in Z-150, and then turns it far to his right, starting in Z-164, to catch a glimpse of JFK over his right shoulder. However, JBC can't "see" JFK in Z-180 (etc.) because he has turned his head far to his right, too, and has raised his arm to wave to Wooward and Co., thereby obscuring his face from JBC's view.
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Video of Ashli Babbit who was shot in the neck from the front on January 6th shows her arms in the Thorburn position when she was dying on her back on the floor...

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That said, Iler may be mollifying the Old Guard while moving the EF-JFKA to a better place.


I hope Iler can bring the EF-JFKA to a better place.

BC:

Iler just posted Kamp's risible lecture about Sarah Stanton being Lee Harvey Oswald over in the "New JFK Media" thread...He posted it as an example of the "Best Content" presently available in that new media...

Iler locked the thread from comments and the forum now does not allow criticism of the moderators or administrators and their judgment as a new site rule...
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It is remarkable that WC apologists who (correctly) accept the EOP entry site refuse to admit that the EOP site proves the autopsy brain photos are fraudulent.

Yes, I agree: The evidence strongly favors the EOP site. I was encouraged to see Lance Payette state that he is convinced by Pat Speer's arguments for the EOP site. Dr. Larry Sturdivan, the former HSCA wound ballistics consultant, argues for the EOP site in his book The JFK Myths: A Scientific Investigation of the Kennedy Assassination. Dr. David Mantik likewise argues for the EOP site in his 2024 book The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis. Dr. Joseph Riley, a neuroanatomist, argued for the EOP site and noted that the area of the brain beneath the phantom cowlick entry site is undamaged:

We have autopsy photographs that show the top of JFK's head. Everyone agrees (including Dr. Bob Artwohl) that intact cerebral cortex is visible. If you are a neuroanatomist, you can identify the cerebral cortex (superior parietal lobule visible). What's the significance of that? Simple: that is the
part of cortex that is immediately under the high entrance wound -- so, the brain at the point of the high entrance wound is not damaged. Now that is indeed a magic bullet. ("What Struck John?" pp. 4-5, https://kenrahn.com/Marsh/Autopsy/riley.html)


Five autopsy witnesses -- Sibert, O'Neill, Lipsey, Stringer, and Kellerman -- said the rear head entry wound was near the EOP or the hairline. The three autopsy doctors insisted to their dying days that the EOP site was correct. 

The problem is that the brain photos show no damage whatsoever to the right occipital lobe, but a bullet that entered near the EOP could not have missed tearing through the right occipital lobe, as the HSCA FPP correctly pointed out. The FPP hammered the autopsy doctors on this point, and they had no explanation for it. However, the FPP argument against the EOP site only works if the brain photos are authentic.

The evidence that the brain photos are fraudulent is truly impressive. As experts from both sides have confirmed, the brain photos show "less than 1-2 ounces" of missing brain tissue. Yet, multiple sets of optical-density measurements have confirmed that about 2/3 of the right brain is missing in the autopsy skull x-rays, a fact that Dr. Fred Hodges noted in 1975 when he served on the Rockefeller Commission's medical panel. Humes himself told JAMA that 2/3 of the right cerebrum was blasted away. A number of witnesses who saw the brain said that 1/4 to 1/2 of it was missing. And, we have a veritable mountain of eyewitness testimony that bits of JFK's brain were blown or fell onto 16 surfaces, and that's not counting the "large chunk of brain" that Jackie brought into the ER and handed to Dr. Jenkins.

Only those who are emotionally committed to believing in the lone-gunman theory will continue to believe  the autopsy brain photos are genuine.
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Pitzer either filmed the covert pre-autopsy in person or filmed it using remote camera equipment he installed in one of the autopsy rooms at Bethesda...

Typical of the JFK research community, Dennis David was alive for years and should have been asked if Pitzer set up remote filming equipment and possibly captured the covert autopsy on film...The slides David witnessed bespeak Pitzer accidentally filming the alteration of the original wounds in that covert autopsy room...Of course, even though Dennis David could have provided incredibly important information on this, the pompous egotists who are the main researchers never bothered to go find out from David and solve one of the most revealing aspects of the case...

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Andrew Iler has posted Bart Kamp's Prayer Man lecture at the 2023 Lancer Conference under the title "Best Content In the New JFK Media"...

He has done so while locking the thread from replies and creating new site rules that disallow any questioning of the administration's judgment...

This is the reforming of The Education Forum...

The Prayer Man theory is, of course, the biggest hoax theory to ever get legs in the JFK research community...This seals the hijacking of the JFK internet by the Prayer Man clique...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 11:28:35 AM »
I asked:

"If you have a single scrap of evidence that CE399 was the bullet recovered from Parkland, do share it."

There is no evidence that CE399 was found at Parkland.
The three men involved with the discovery of a bullet at Parkland ALL refused to identify CE399 as that bullet.
O P Wright categorically denied CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland.
CE399 was entered into evidence as the bullet found at Parkland without a single witness identifying it as such.
Tomlinson, the man who discovered the bullet, wasn't asked to identify it during his closed WC interview.

There is not a single scrap of evidence that CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland and lots of evidence demonstrating it wasn't.
Prix like Graves are here to disinform and misinform.
What an unbelievable KGB-loving loser he is.

Correction. There is no evidence you will accept. That's not a litmus test for the validity of the evidence.
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