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OMG, Karl………..  this is much deeper than i thot!  why don’t you explain further?
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We must save Judyth !

She MUST testify !!!

I have a great idea, Karl.  Let’s start a ‘GoFu**Me’ fundraising page for our dear Ozzie’s paramour (snicker), to make sure she can see well enough to testify before the great tribunal of truth chaired by the chief Lunatic. Save Judy & Tosh AND Brittney !!

Hey, Oliver believes her, why don’t you? where’s mssr. x ?
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A muzzle-loading rifle does not issue fire slugs at supersonic speeds.

Who knows what you were hearing.

What you heard from a muzzle-loading rifle has no bearing on what Bowers heard during the JFKA.

Bowers testimony is rather clear. 
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SMG--

Thanks for posting. BTW, there are clips of RFK in 1967 backing US actions in SV, which by them were much enlarged.

JFK was an ardent and global anti-communist. So was RFK.

The idea that some group would assassinate JFK for his unclear plans on Vietnam in 1963 is very weak. LBJ was also unclear on what to do in 1964.

There was a great deal of animosity in the Cuban exile crowd towards JFK, and, of course, Castro had been the target of multiple assassinations attempts during the JFK years.

President LBJ put the kibosh on following any leads from LHO back to Havana or Moscow.



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Judyth Baker on "X" : (today)
Judyth Vary Baker
@Judyth
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in June- July 1963 Lee Oswald was involved in a CIA rifle smuggling operation involving a Delta Line cargo /cruise ship that brought over 500 rifles to New Orleans from the port associated with Caracas, Venezuela. In 2017/2018 the CIA released evidence of other smuggling ops of rifles from Caracas.
I contend that CIA released these files under the JFK Act because Lee was involved in at leat one incident of smuggling rifles from Caracas. How did I know about this?  I was personally involved.
I believe these files were released because they were related to JFK and Lee Oswald records.
I first reported the Caracas smuggling operation in which I knew Lee was  involved in 1999, long before any such files were known to the public.
But neither I nor 60 Minutes were able to find any supporting files for my testimony on rifle smuggling in the National Archives in 2000, when I was sent to search for them,along with 60 Minutes.' ressearcher Dr. Howard Platzman.
It would be 7 years before the files below were released, unredacted, buried among 1000's of untitled releases. I found these 3, then more later. Lee's address book - see below -mentions the shipment of 'guns' in a code with "Caracas."
Lee was not involved in CIA gun smuggling in Clinton, despite James Files' claims. Lee's true activities in Clinton are fully laid out in my books ME and LEE [2010] and in LEE HARVEY Oswald AND ME [2022].
THE TRUTH IS THERE. All of it. Lee Oswald was working in anti-Castro activities for the CIA and FBI in New Orleans from April 26 1963 to Sept 26, 1963.
Go through my posts about Lee. Go back for months.
I have the receipts. But I am not allowed to speak to Rep Luna's committee.  I  know too much. =jvb= Close quote

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But those 7 people tested positive , so That kind of makes Oswald’s negative result an anomaly . So I’m trying to suggest the possibility Oswald having washed his face at the theater 65 minutes after the shooting and how probable the trace amount of nitrates could be removed from his face by washing with water and soap. If it is improbable , then the anomaly persists.

Those 7 people never fired Oswald's rifle.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on September 19, 2026, 10:38:28 PM »
This is the kind of asinine comment we have come to expect from you. Of course we have to guess when Oswald assembled the rifle because nobody would know that except Oswald. Do you need every last freaking thing proven to you? You really are moron. Sorry. Just being honest.

There's nothing asinine about that comment.
You are little more than a robot constantly spewing the Warren Commission's narrative.
Is there a single point or detail that you deviate from the Warren Commission Report?

And name a single thing - the tiniest thing - that you have proven to anyone. You don't even know the difference between a fact and a theory. How can you 'prove' anything if you don't know what a fact is?
You are the second worst kind of frothing-at-the-mouth, rabid zealot. Your only saving grace is that you don't hide what you are.

Name a single detail about the assassination where you differ from the Warren Commission's narrative.
And by the way - when did Oswald make his preparations? He was down on the first floor talking to Eddie Piper while Bonnie Ray was up on the 6th from noon until  a few minutes before the Presidential limo entered Dealey Plaza.
Maybe he was the man with the rifle Arnold Rowland saw on the 6th floor.
Try to think for yourself for a change.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by John Corbett on September 19, 2026, 10:30:13 PM »
7th floor would have been a good  place  to assemble the rifle but Oswald would have to bring the package from the 1st floor annex part of loading dock where he hid it that morning after entering about  30 secs ahead of  BW Frazier.

How do you know where Oswald hid the rifle that morning? Sounds like you are just guessing.
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So Frazier saw Oswald  carrying a package go thru the 1st door that’s part of the annexed bldg that’s attached to the TSBD and then Oswald had 30 seconds to place the package somewhere (an open
Storage barrel perhaps ) unseen by Frazier doing so.  Then when Oswald  opened the back door of TSBD, Dougherty saw nothing in Oswalds hands.

Pure assumption. Just because Dougherty didn't remember seeing Oswald with a package doesn't prove Oswald didn't have a package. People tend not to remember mundane details like that because they don't notice things like that. I would have to guess where Oswald hid the rifle that morning too, but i bet I could make a better guess than that.
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So anytime from 8:30 to 11:30, Oswald could possibly have gone into the annexed garage bldg probably using the rolled up door beside the 1st floor staircase , retrieved the package and he either took it up to 7 th floor using the stairs or by using one of the freight elevators.

The possibilities for where Oswald hid the rifle and when he assembled it are almost limitless and anybody who thinks they know the answers is just guessing. If I were in his shoes, I would find an out-of-the-way hiding place and wait for everybody to go to lunch before assembling the rifle, then find a secluded spot with a good line of fire down Elm St., but Oswald wasn't obligated to do what I would have done. He got to make his own choices. I'd say him made some pretty good choices, even if I don't know what they were.
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Unfortunately I dont think There were any witnesses that have WC testimony that support this scenario and given that Dorothy Garner on the 4th floor probably did NOT wait 60 secs post shots to follow behind Adams and Stiles and given BW  Fraziers 24 in estimate of the length of the bag, this hypothetical scenario is basically irrelevant.

Almost all fill-in-the-blanks guesses are irrelevant because there is no evidence to support any of them. Only Oswald knew when and where he assembled the rifle and he's not talking.
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I just threw it out there as an LN option since most LNs are convinced the bag probably contained the disassembled MC rifle.

If Oswald didn't smuggle the rifle into the TSBD in the 40 inch bag that had his palm print on it and fibers matching his rifle blanked, it just means he brought the rifle into the TSBD at some unknown time. I find it far more probable that Frazier simply misjudged the length of the bag than that Oswald brought his rifle into work at some other time.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by John Corbett on September 19, 2026, 10:25:06 PM »
7th floor would have been a good  place  to assemble the rifle but Oswald would have to bring the package from the 1st floor annex part of loading dock where he hid it that morning after entering about  30 secs ahead of  BW Frazier.

How do you know where Oswald hid the rifle that morning? Sounds like you are just guessing.
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So Frazier saw Oswald  carrying a package go thru the 1st door that’s part of the annexed bldg that’s attached to the TSBD and then Oswald had 30 seconds to place the package somewhere (an open
Storage barrel perhaps ) unseen by Frazier doing so.  Then when Oswald  opened the back door of TSBD, Dougherty saw nothing in Oswalds hands.

Pure assumption. Just because Daugherty didn't remember seeing Oswald with a package doesn't prove Oswald didn't have a package. People tend not to remember mundane details like that because they don't notice things like that. I would have to guess where Oswald hid the rifle that morning too, but i bet I could make a better guess than that.
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So anytime from 8:30 to 11:30, Oswald could possibly have gone into the annexed garage bldg probably using the rolled up door beside the 1st floor staircase , retrieved the package and he either took it up to 7 th floor using the stairs or by using one of the freight elevators.

The possibilities for where Oswald hid the rifle and when he assembled it are almost limitless and anybody who thinks they know the answers is just guessing. If I were in his shoes, I would find an out-of-the-way hiding place and wait for everybody to got to lunch before assembling the rifle, then find a secluded spot with a good line of fire down Elm St., but Oswald wasn't obligated to do what I would have done. He got to make his own choices. I'd say him made some pretty good choices, even if I don't know what they were.
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Unfortunately I dont think There were any witnesses that have WC testimony that support this scenario and given that Dorothy Garner on the 4th floor probably did NOT wait 60 secs post shots to follow behind Adams and Stiles and given BW  Fraziers 24 in estimate of the length of the bag, this hypothetical scenario is basically irrelevant.

Almost all fill-in-the-blanks guesses are irrelevant because

I just threw it out there as an LN option since most LNs are convinced the bag probably contained the disassembled MC rifle.
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would be beyond out of proportion and far beyond innaccurate.
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