JFK Assassination Forum

   Some of You are doing a "Baghdad Bob" with respect to this New Evidence of a "getaway" car. If you believe I am wrong, just show me where that car is on the Wiegman Film. It flat-out is Not there. And the kicker is that the DPD were all over this car. They did suspect that this car parked in a clearly posted, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone was involved in the JFK Assassination.

If you really think you've found some game changing evidence of a conspiracy, why are you wasting your time posting it here for a few dozen people to read. Why don't you take what you've discovered to the networks, the cable news channels, and the major newspapers. Surely at least one of them will be interested in such a revelation. You could go down in history as the guy who solved the JFKA.

Before applying for the TSBD job, Oswald applied and was rejected for several jobs which were nowhere near the motorcade. In fact the only reason Oswald ended up applying for the TSBD job was because Buell Wesley Frazier worked there and during a meeting of local ladies including Linnie Mae, Frazier's sister, the topic of Oswald's unemployment was mentioned so Ruth Paine rang the TSBD to see if Oswald could get a job. Ruth Paine is often accused by the clueless CT community of being part of the conspiracy but as just seen, the amount of random events that needed to coincide ensures that Ruth was just being helpful.



JohnM

Those who think Ruth Paine was complicit by getting LHO hired at the TSBD need to explain how she knew a motorcade that hadn't even been planned much less made public was going to be routed right past the TSBD.

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Here's my follow-up Substack article:

To Matt Cloud, a very special kind of grasshopper

THOMAS GRAVES MAY 13, 2026

Dear Locust I mean Grasshopper,

It’s fascinating that on your Twitter page (on which you’ve boasted about having participated in J6) you’ve posted a page from the coached, “softball” polygraph exam (one of the worst ones that polygraph expert Richard O. Arther had ever seen, according what he told the HSCA in 1978) that was drawn up by a probable KGB mole in the Office of Security, Bruce Leonard Solie, and administered to false-defector-in-place-in-Geneva-in-June-1962 / false (or perhaps rogue) physical defector to the U.S. in February 1964, Yuri Nosenko, in August of 1968.

What’s particularly fascinating is that you’ve highlighted the following question and Nosenko’s reply to it:

While in the U.S. Embassy section did you obtain a typewriter for Borodin for the preparation of a letter to Edward Ellis Smith? Yes.

“Borodin,” of course, was Norman Borodin, son of Lenin’s old buddy, OG Revolutionary Mikhail Borodin (real name Mikhail Markovich Gruzenburg) who, “due to rising antisemitism” according to Wikipedia, was arrested in early 1949 and died in May 1951 at a prison camp. Firebrand Mike was posthumously rehabilitated by the Kremlin in 1964 (or was it 1963?).

Edward Ellis Smith?

He was the first CIA officer to ever be recruited (in late 1956) by the KGB, and the “mole” whom both John M. Newman (author of Oswald and the CIA and Uncovering Popov’s Mole) and Nosenko’s primary case officer, Tennent H. Bagley, believe was instrumental in the betrayal of CIA’s spy, GRU Lt. Col. Pyotr Popov, in Washington D.C. movie houses in January 1957.

Dear Locust I mean Grasshopper, you’ve cited many times in the past a 6 July 1964 CIA report sent by “D/E” to “Deputy Chief” on 10/29/75; a document that suggests that high-level CIA officer John M. McMahon “freaked out” and frantically interviewed already-incarcerated Nosenko about Norman Borodin and his family when he heard that Norman’s father, Mikahil, had just been rehabilitated.

For reasons discernable only to you, you take it to mean that not only was hated Democrat Daniel Patrick Moynihan (your employer in the 1990s) a KGB “mole,” but John N. McMahon — one of Nosenko’s 1964 interviewers / interrogators and Deputy Director of CIA from June 1982 to March 1986, was, too.

Please explain, Locust.

I mean Grasshopper.

Your mentor,

-- Tom

https://open.substack.com/pub/thomasgraves/p/my-reply-to-a-special-kind-of-grasshopper?r=9ddgg&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

LP--

You make good points.

OTOH, the Kennedy trip to Dallas was known by the public two months in advance. The actual route was published locally on Nov. 19.

How much planning does it take to say, "We will hole up in the TSBD6 and fire on JFK after he passes. The diversion will fire from the GK area about the same time."

Remember, LHO had military background, got through Marine boot camp. This is pretty basic stuff. If G2'ers were his confederates, they likely had military backgrounds too.

It was circumstance, or (foul) luck, that LHO worked in the TSBD. Likely, LHO carried his rifle in on 11.22. The other rifle maybe was carried in the same day, or the night before. Security was lax at the TSBD.

The JFKA was not a sophisticated operation. It largely involved a huge stroke of luck (LHO in the TSBD), and then pointing guns and shooting.

BTW, there is the "Sawyer memo": DPD Inspector Sawyer reported one witness told him that he (the witness) saw a man running from the TSBD carrying a Winchester, in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA.

Gus Russo reported LHO was friendly with G2. There's your connection. LHO was seen by some in G2 company in MC and NO.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

Matt Cloud, a self-described J6 participant who served as an assistant to Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan and now believes hated Democrat Moynihan and Deputy Director of CIA, John N. McMahon, were KGB “moles,” posted the following in response to my recent Substack article on Edward Ellis Smith.

Cloud’s reply has been paraphrased by me into intelligible English:

CIA officer Edward Ellis Smith was compromised in Moscow in 1956 by Norman Borodin and false-defector Yuri Nosenko. Rhetorical question: Was the June-July 1964 rehabilitation of Norman Borodin’s father, Mikhail Borodin (which rehabilitation caused Nosenko-handler John McMahon’s documented panic) due to the younger Borodin’s and Yuri Nosenko’s successful operation against Edward Ellis Smith?

. . . . . . . .

My reply:

Dear Grasshopper,

Just because false-defector-in-place in Geneva in June 1962 / false (or perhaps rogue) physical defector to the U.S. in February 1964 Yuri Nosenko said in June 1962 that he had been Deputy Chief of the Second Chief Division’s American Embassy section until the beginning of 1962 and that he had helped its Chief, General Vladislav Kovshuk, compromise putative American Embassy diplomat Edward Ellis Smith doesn’t necessarily mean that he did.

It’s interesting to note, Grasshopper, that in 1964 Nosenko denied having ever heard of Edward Ellis Smith. It’s also interesting that a true defector, KGB Major Pyotr Deriabin determined by interviewing Nosenko for two weeks in 1965 that he couldn’t have been a KGB officer — much less a Major Lieutenant Colonel Captain — as evidenced by the fact that he didn’t know:

1) How many of the Embassy’s floors were dedicated to the CIA (three),

2) How to send a cable,

3) Whether his secretary was dedicated to him or rotated to him from a “pool,”

4) Where the heck the cafeteria was at KGB headquarters,

5) etc., etc., etc.

You must remember, Grasshopper, that Nosenko was sent to the CIA in Geneva in June 1962 by the Second Chief Directorate’s General Oleg Gribanov — who, six months earlier, had sent Dmitry Polyakov and Aleksey Kulak to the FBI’s NYC field office — to protect a mole or two or three (can you say Bruce Leonard Solie, Leonard V. McCoy, and Russia-born George Kisevalter?) from being uncovered due to true-defector Anatoly Golitsyn’s recent revelations.

By claiming in June 1962 to have recently been Deputy Chief of the Second Chief Directorate’s American Embassy section, Nosenko was “speaking with authority” when he volunteered that his former boss, Kovshuk, had made a special two-week trip to Washington to reactivate an American Embassy Army sergeant cipher machine mechanic codenamed “Andrey” when in fact Kovshuk, under the name “Vladimir Komarov,” had gone to Washington in late 1962 as an ostensible diplomat who was just beginning a two-year gig at the Soviet Embassy.

Factoids:

1) “Komarov” / Kovshuk was seen so often near D.C. movie houses in the company of two other KGB officers that the FBI began referring to them as “The Three Musketeers.”

2) “Komarov” / Kovshuk waited nine-and-a-half months to contact “Andrey” (now-worthless-to-KGB cipher machine mechanic Dayle W. Smith), whose address was in the phone book.

3) ”Komarov” / Kovshuk didn’t serve as a “diplomat” at the Soviet Embassy for the agreed-upon two years. Instead, he returned to his waiting-for-him job at KGB headquarters after only ten months.

4) Recently fired by CIA Smith encountered a CIA friend (who knew of Smith’s firing) in Washington in early 1957. The friend asked him what he’d been up to, and Smith replied, as memorialized in a note that the friend gave to the CIA, “Nothing much, just killing time, waiting to go out to California [to his new job at the Hoover Institution]. Spending a lot of time in the movies.”

5) When Nosenko recontacted Tennent H. Bagley and probable mole George Kisevalter in late January 1964 in Geneva, he told them that he’d recently been promoted to Lieutenant Colonel in the KGB’s American Tourist Department and had read the KGB's file on American tourist Lee Harvey Oswald four times — two times before and two times after the assassination of JFK. He also dropped the bomb that he’d just received a “return to Moscow immediately" telegram from KGB headquarters. (That’s why the CIA, although strongly suspecting that Nosenko was fake, let him physically defect to the U.S.)

6) The aforementioned Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover’s shielded-from-CIA FEDORA) “confirmed” that Nosenko was now a Lieutenant Colonel and had received a “return to Moscow immediately” telegram in Geneva in early-February 1964 but lamely backtracked on those two “confirmations” when Nosenko later admitted under (non-tortuous) interrogation to have made them up.

Your mentor,

— Tom

PS You may enjoy this excerpt from Bagley’s 2007 book, Spy Wars.

The impossible circumstances of Nosenko ’s rapid promotions in the KGB hierarchy — neither having accomplished any verifiable professional successes nor for the last two promotions having even been in Moscow most of the time — led us to probe his claims.

Here Nosenko cracked and admitted that he had lied. He was not now a lieutenant colonel, nor had he been a major as he had claimed when meeting us in Geneva in 1962. He was and had remained a captain — though he insisted on his rapid advance in the hierarchy to first-deputy department chief.

Asked to explain, then, how his travel authorization for the Cherepanov search in October 1963 had been made out to “Lieutenant Colonel Nosenko,” he said it had been a clerk’s error. Then why had General Gribanov signed off on this error? No explanation. (And later, questioned again on the discrepancy, he attributed the error to a careless duty officer, not to a careless clerk.)

“You defected because a telegram was recalling you to Moscow just after you had arrived in Geneva?”

“Yes. I was afraid they had found out about our contact.”

“We have analyzed all the radio traffic during that period. The Soviet representation in Geneva received no telegram from Moscow in those two days.”

After his initial insistence before becoming convinced of our facts, Nosenko admitted he had lied. “I was afraid, and wanted to get out as fast as possible. I invented the telegram because you would have insisted that I stay in place.” 4

“You told us in 1962 that you participated with Kovshuk in the recruitment approach to Edward Smith, the Embassy security officer. But this happened in 1956. How come you were there? You have said and written that you transferred to the Tourist Department in 1955.”

Nosenko looked at the interrogator blankly. “Who? I never heard that name. I could not have told you that.”

Our interrogator sighed in frustration and called for a tape recorder and played back for Nosenko a clear recording of his statements in the Geneva safe house.

Nosenko thought for minutes, then said in a low voice, “Mr. Bagley was making me drunk then.” 5 Again he sank into morose silence, his lips tight, unwilling to say a word.

The interrogator, aware that drink does not grant second sight, and having just heard Nosenko’s voice on the tape giving firsthand details, recognized this excuse as ludicrous. But he had no choice but to move on with his questioning.