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I thought this thread was supposed to be about applying logic and critical thinking? It appears that a more apt title would have been Rehashing the Same Old Crap.

It's a 62  year old murder case. If we didn't rehash old crap, what else would there be to talk about?

Given the circumstances of the JFKA, a logical supposition would be that Oswald did not expect to survive (and perhaps didn't care if he did).

That's something I beleive but not something I know. Nobody knows what Oswald was thinking.

He was clearly thinking in this vein with the Walker attempt, which was vastly less risky.  If this were true, his failure to leave some sort of manifesto or at least a note is puzzling to me as I have previously stated.

Why do people think that there was a rule book Oswald was supposed to follow. He had his reasons for doing what he did and didn't do. He was under no obligation to tell anybody what those reasons were.

Extremely puzzling, in fact. Once he survived and was in custody, bragging about his deed would not have been in his legal or ideological interests.

I see no point in wondering why Oswald didn't do what I think I would have done if I was in his shoes.

It appears to me that the wheels started turning immediately, which is why he wanted Communist Party showman Abt to represent him. My guess is that he was thinking in terms of a grand show trial that would cement his place in history as a hero of the Cuban people and a deep Marxist thinker.

You are certainly entitled to guess. Your guess might even be right. In fact, I hope it is. I hope he was looking forward to his trial. It means Oswald got robbed of the infamy he thought he would gain. At least, he didn't get to live to enjoy it, thanks to Jack Ruby. I wonder if Oswald's last conscious thought was, "Life is so damn unfair". I chuckle just thinking about it.

Having now read all three of Fred's pieces, that is indeed an amazing 180-degree transformation. I still have to believe it is a combination of the seeds having been there long before the transformation and of religious influences of which we may not be fully aware. There is no way the events in Gaza triggered this sort of wholesale about-face.

It is called a fictional story. Maybe your rifle has a point on the bridge, but none of the others do.

Where two circles meet [collide] is a single point. Below is a better image of CE 543. The mouth definitely isn’t flared out. And the dent appears to fit the blue arc of a circle roughly the diameter of the outside of the bridge.

I thought this thread was supposed to be about applying logic and critical thinking? It appears that a more apt title would have been Rehashing the Same Old Crap.

Given the circumstances of the JFKA, a logical supposition would be that Oswald did not expect to survive (and perhaps didn't care if he did). He was clearly thinking in this vein with the Walker attempt, which was vastly less risky.  If this were true, his failure to leave some sort of manifesto or at least a note is puzzling to me as I have previously stated. Extremely puzzling, in fact. Once he survived and was in custody, bragging about his deed would not have been in his legal or ideological interests. It appears to me that the wheels started turning immediately, which is why he wanted Communist Party showman Abt to represent him. My guess is that he was thinking in terms of a grand show trial that would cement his place in history as a hero of the Cuban people and a deep Marxist thinker.

At the risk of beating my conspiracy-prone mindset drum ($19.95 in the toy section at Walmart), I would bet that if one knew Mansur intimately the seeds were there before he went bonkers. I've mentioned David Ray Griffin, a truly renowned philosopher and theologian who went completely off the deep-end and became one of the leading 9/11 Truther spokesmen. I was astonished ... and yet, one of the reasons I had always enjoyed reading him is that he was very open to some of the psychical research in which I am interested. In other words, just a bit "out there" for someone with his academic standing. I don't think it takes a whole lot of fertilizer for the conspiracy-prone mindset to blossom into a full-tilt beanstalk (what?). This is particularly true when there are religious underpinnings. How many people become religious zealots and at least start pretending to believe things they would have previously thought were laughable?

I also love the tactic of Certain Conspiracy Wackos to distance themselves from other comspiracy wackos. This is what Jim Di Eugenio used to do and why he became apoplectic whenever I pointed out the close parallels between the UFO community and the JFKA community. "WHAT???" screeched Jimbo in righteous indignation. "Those UFO nuts are NUTS. My goofy kitchen sink of beliefs is SERIOUS RESEARCH!!!" Uh-huh. Certain Conspiracy Wackos right here on this thread, who likewise hold and promote other wacky beliefs ("You could look it up," as Casey Stengel used to say), insist they are somehow above the fray and able to look down with disdain on the those Wacky 9/11 Truthers. And on it goes.