JFK Assassination Forum

In an article published March 21 2025, by magazine Vanity Fair, JFKA researcher made this statement:

For his part, Morley, after reviewing the latest documents released, now believes that there is sufficient evidence to conclude definitively that the CIA had a role in JFK’s murder. He asserted, “A small clique in CIA counterintelligence was responsible for JFK’s assassination.”

He promised to back up his claim with documents from the recent batch and explanatory articles on his JFK Facts Substack.

Well? I suppose we can dance around the word "responsible." Semantics. To the layman, that suggests an element within the CIA planned and effected the JFKA, or knew of a potent plan to do that, and sat by idle.

But where is the evidence that a small clique in the CIA put some people on the ground in Dallas on 11.22.63, and they either assisted, or framed, LHO in the JFKA?

There is evidence there was animosity inside the CIA towards JFK for the Bay of Pigs, and also for sacking the Diems in 11.63 (the brothers were brutally murdered in South Vietnam in a Kennedy Administration-financed coup. The CIA station in SV backed the Diems, but were overruled by JFK).

The Cuban exile community had many members who were deeply angered by the BoP, and said so in recorded video and tapes.

But...suspicions are a mile from having information that would compel someone to say, "A group within the CIA arranged for these two men, X and XX, to go to Dallas to help LHO wax JFK. I believe this beyond reasonable doubt."

It appears the CIA and domestic agencies were monitoring LHO in 1963---given his background and activities, I would expect that. It may even be they let him be "to see where he leads." Maybe they planned to use him in some capacity, if possible.

One must remember that at all times, these agencies have many fish to fry.

In 11.22, there was no indication LHO was dangerous, since the Walker shooting had not generated any leads.

It may also be that Russian mole Bruce Solie was gumming up the works inside the CIA re LHO.

In fact, there is evidence LHO was or had been a KGB asset, and was friendly with G2.

If Morley has backed up his statement, I am all ears, and will stand corrected.

You've been given every opportunity to illustrate how it would even be possible for Oswald to shoot JBC in the back when JBC was facing him and you have declined to do so. We both know you can't do it because you know that would have been impossible. Since your entire theory of what happened collapses without that element, there is no point in even discussing the rest of your silly theory which has a whole bunch of other problems.

You have managed to do one thing. You have the LNs and CTs agreeing with each other on something. We all know how ludicrous your theory is.

I see that should have said:

MASON: Well an argument is not the same as contradiction.
CORBETT: Can be.
MASON: No it can’t. An argument’s a collective series of statements to establish a definite proposition.  In this case, the witnesses say the first shot struck JFK and the vast majority said last two shots were closer together. That means a separate shot hit JBC after the midpoint between 1 and 3. I have explained how the bullet path through the body, as found by Dr. Shaw, is consistent with hitting JBC while his torso is twisted around so his shoulders are sideways in the car. In that position a path from the lateral edge of the scapula to right nipple goes around the pleural cavity.    The wounds are inconsistent with him facing forward because when facing forward the path from back wound to exit wound goes through the pleural cavity.  If you want to contradict that it is up to you to provide evidence to the contrary.
CORBETT: No it isn't and no I don't. You have to disprove my spidey senses and they tell me that JBC could not have been hit in the torso at z271.
MASON: No I don't.  You keep just contradicting.
CORBETT:  Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
MASON: But it isn’t just saying, “no it isn’t.”
CORBETT:  Yes it is!
MASON: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction’s just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.
CORBETT:  No it isn’t.  ....

And so it goes - my apologies to Monty Python:

MASON: Well an argument is not the same as contradiction.
CORBETT: Can be.
MASON: No it can’t. An argument’s a collective series of statements to establish a definite proposition.  In this case, the witnesses say the first shot struck JFK and the vast majority said last two shots were closer together. That means a separate shot hit JBC after the midpoint between 1 and 3.  If you want to contradict that it is up to you to provide evidence to the contrary.
CORBETT: No it isn't and no I don't. You have to disprove my spidey senses and they tell me that JBC could not have been hit in the torso at z271.
MASON: No I don't.  You keep just contradicting.
CORBETT:  Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
MASON: But it isn’t just saying, “no it isn’t.”
CORBETT:  Yes it is!
MASON: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction’s just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.
CORBETT:  No it isn’t.  ....

You've been given every opportunity to illustrate how it would even be possible for Oswald to shoot JBC in the back when JBC was facing him and you have declined to do so. We both know you can't do it because you know that would have been impossible. Since your entire theory of what happened collapses without that element, there is no point in even discussing the rest of your silly theory which has a whole bunch of other problems.

You have managed to do one thing. You have the LNs and CTs agreeing with each other on something. We all know how ludicrous your theory is.

  Thank you for helping me build my case.

As it turns out, I was wrong. New York held the #1 spot throughout the 1960s. It was the 1970 census that pushed California to the #1 spot.
In the 1960 election, New York was #1 by a wide margin with 45 electoral votes. California was tied with Pennsylvania with 32 apiece. Both Illinois and Ohio had more votes than Texas. Believe it or not, Florida had only 10 electoral votes.

California closed the gap following the 1960 census trailing New York 43-40. Following the 1970 census California took over #1 by a 45-41 margin. Pennsylvania held the #3 spot with 27, one ahead of both Illinois and Texas at 26.

Must be sad to believe so thoroughly in something so ridiculous.

   If this is "so ridiculous", it should be easy for you to show me this 17.5 Feet long car, standing almost 5 Feet high, parked alongside the Island on the Wiegman Film. Just show this car. It ain't there!

   This intended "getaway" car moved into position alongside the Island under 20 seconds after the kill shot. The car was abandoned when DPD Officer Smith ran past the driver side of the car and DPD Officer Baker ran past the front bumper of the car. Both DPD officers did this Less than 30 seconds after the kill shot. This happening, this quickly, alarmed those inside the "getaway" car.

  This "getaway" car is still the subject of an active investigation.    .....................................  STAY TUNED   ................................................