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The Zapruder film shows that Governor Connally shot around Z-295 and JFK was shot at Z-313. 

You're mistaken, because you lend far too much credence to the traumatized memory of the highly-confident-by-definition politician known as Governor John B. Connally, and because you fail to acknowledge the fact that Connally started turning far to his right around Z-164 to see where the first, missing-everything, shot had come from (he knew from the sound that it was behind him) and to see, by glancing over his right shoulder, if JFK was okay.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z164.jpg

But couldn't "see" JFK over his right shoulder because by Z-175 JFK had turned his head far to his right and raised his forearm and hand to wave to someone.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z175.jpg

Connally (and JFK, of course) were then hit from behind at approximately Z-222 as Connally was just starting to turn back to his left with the intention of looking over his left shoulder to see where the shot had come from and whether or not JFK was okay, but he only got about 20 degrees there in his intended 200-degree rotation.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z222.jpg

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    Are you claiming that Witt was standing on: (1) the grass, or, (2) the retaining wall? Both the grass and the retaining wall are incorrect.  He stood on the very wide sidewalk.
I already answered these questions in Reply #107, a few replies above: "Looks to me like he's on a dirty of the lawn next to the edge of the sidewalk."

I also helpfully noted that your placement of TUM on the sidewalk only hurts your contentions:

"However, even if we were to assume for the sake of argument that TUM is indeed on the sidewalk, it's still fatal to your argument. Witt testified that he was on the grass when he saw the motorcade start down Elm. He said he started walking towards the street while trying to open the umbrella. He had trouble opening the umbrella but "continued to move forward and finally got this umbrella up in the air" with the sequence ending "I think by the time I got the thing up in the air I was over and possibly standing on the retaining wall." There is a low retaining wall at the edge of the Elm St sidewalk, so his testimony is perfectly consistent with your interpretation of the Bronson film"




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William Niederhut has frequently platformed the Education Forum and JFKA to valorize Ron Unz...yes Ron Unz, the crackpot.

Some tidbits on Ron Unz:

American Writer Ron Unz On Iranian TV: Former Israeli PM Ariel Sharon Orchestrated 9/11 So The U.S. Will Attack Israel's Enemies; The Mossad Was Probably Behind The Kennedy Assassinations, Planned To Assassinate President George H.W. Bush

And the source for this?

Iranian TV.  https://www.memri.org/tv/american-writer-ron-unz-iran-israeli-pm-ariel-sharon-behind-nine-eleven-mossad-jfk-assassination

State Iranian TV applauded Unz for his perspectives.

You suppose Unz collects much money from Tehran? Or does Unz spread these crackpot theories for free?

Is this where Jeff Morley gets his perspectives?

It remains true: There are foreign actors monkeying with the JFKA and RFKA narratives. Oliver Stone's relationship with Putin is well-known. To be sure, the US government has tried to prevail with a narrative as well.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.



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Well, I will say what I always say, and that is my layman's view of the Z-film shows Gov. Connally shot ~Z-295, and JFK at Z-313. About one second apart.

The SBT requires that JBC, after being shot through the chest, having his right wrist fractured, and a slug burrow into his left leg...only then did JBC a 180-degree turn in his seat to look for JFK. 

But, in real life, JBC described turning around to look for JFK after hearing the first shot. And then getting struck by a shot he did not hear as he began to face forward again. That is accurate, IMHO, fro my review of the Z-film.

Then there is this:

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)


That happens about ~Z-295. JBC describes himself as immediately incapacitated by the shot that struck him. No 180-degree turn.

From this, I deduce there was a second gunsel behind the JFK limo. The GK smoke-and-bang show may have been another gunsel, or a diversion. Or kids playing with firecrackers.

LHO remains the most likely suspect for the TSBD6 sniper. Indeed, LHO is the only JFKA suspect known beyond reasonable doubt to have been in Dealey Plaza 11.22. This makes unraveling the JFKA almost impossible.

I do not know who were LHO's confederates or handlers on 11.22. Might have been Alpha 66'ers, or G2, or G2 plants in Alpha 66, double agents.

Likely the plot in its entirety was three people, LHO the other gunsel and the GK player.

Such a small plot was hard to detect, even after the event. LHO was soon dead. Maybe even a patsy of sorts.

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Of course, we all know Mossad perped the JFKA. Just ask Jeff Morley. Mossad was tight with James Jesus Angleton...so you know...that's a fact pattern.



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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 01:15:55 AM »
Mueller's report stated his investigators “did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

I don't have a problem with that.

You didn't answer the question I asked you.

I asked you why you disagree with the report by (Republican) Robert Mueller and the report by the (Republican-controlled) Senate Select Committee on Intelligence regarding the level of Russian anti-Clinton / pro-Trump interference in our 2016 election.

Care to give it another shot?

The Mueller Investigation found that the Trump Campaign had an expectation of benefit from the Russian email hack-and-release operation.

Why have neither you nor William Barr made any mention of this?

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 12:32:27 AM »
Liberals who, as have you, been zombified by sixty-plus years (it started in 1959) of KGB disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies are almost as bad as pro-Trump Libertarians.

Regardless, what specific problems do you see with the conclusions of Republican Robert Mueller and the Republican-controlled Senate Select Committee regarding the level of Russian interference in our 2016 election, and why do you weigh the evidence differently than they did?

Mueller's report stated his investigators “did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

I don't have a problem with that.
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     After 62+ yrs, I have proven there was an impostor masquerading as a motorcycle cop inside the railroad yard immediately after the kill shot.

You've proved it to your satisfaction which is a rather low bar. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say that is not Officer Haygood. That's a long way from proving conspiracy. You would first need to prove who it is and that it is not a DPD officer. Then you would have to prove that this person was working with the assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. You've got some work to do.
 
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And you ask, "What difference does that make"? Are you aware of anyone that on 11/22/63, had a DPD motorcycle cop uniform just laying around and decided to wear it inside Dealey Plaza?

I don't have to be aware of any such thing. The burden is on you to prove your hypothesis. You apparently have proved it to your satisfaction, but if you expect anyone to take you seriously, you'll have to do better than that.

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And then, after the kill shot, for whatever reason, decided to race back deep inside the railroad yard? Getting back inside there BEFORE anyone connected to law enforcement managed to get back there? That Phony Motorcycle Cop was in costume, back inside the railroad yard before the kill shot. The proof of this Masquerading Motorcycle Cop proves a conspiracy. This is right in line with the Rob Reiner presentation.
   

Your approach is typical of what I have seen in 35 years of engaging with conspiracy hobbyists. You treat every anomaly, every unexplained event as proof of a conspiracy. It isn't enough to raise questions. You need to find answers if you want to prove your case. You don't get to say, we don't know the answer to these questions so the answer must be that there was a conspiracy. Sorry, but conspiracy is not the default answer for every unexplained question raised. You need to prove that the cop in question is not a DPD cop and that he was a co-conspirator in the assassination of JFK. But that is a step conspiracy hobbyists never take and few even bother to try. You don't prove anything simply by raising questions. You have to prove the answers to the questions you raise. You haven't even come close.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 12:14:30 AM »
Better a Libertarian than a Libtard.

Liberals who, as have you, been zombified by sixty-plus years (it started in 1959) of KGB disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies are almost as bad as pro-Trump Libertarians.

Regardless, what specific problems do you see with the conclusions of Republican Robert Mueller and the Republican-controlled Senate Select Committee regarding the level of Russian interference in our 2016 election, and why do you weigh the evidence differently than they did?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on April 02, 2026, 11:59:07 PM »


Regardless, here's a friendly reminder for you:

"Libertarians are the worst -- especially pro-Trump Libertarians."

Better a Libertarian than a Libtard
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Above, we see the "Masquerading Motorcycle Cop". He is quickly moving past Officer Harkness, as Harkness looks to the (L). This impostor is avoiding making eye contact with Harkness.

Dear Royell,

Did Peter Dale Scott's, Oliver Stone's, and Alex Jones' evil, evil "Deep State" kill JFK, or did Alex Jones' (sic), Steve Bannon's, and Donald Trump's evil, evil "Administrative State" kill him?

-- Tom
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