JFK Assassination Forum

The bullet exiting his chest at Z270 per your sketch , how could it not have gone thru his hat held in his right hand if there was an exit wound at the base of the palm?

Could you draw another sketch with how you think he’s holding the hat with the right hand?

Do you mean it isn't already ludicrous enough for you?

There is also the problem of explaining how the bullet goes from the left side of JFK’s tie knot on a right to left path and strikes JBC in the right armpit but misses JFK’s hands:
Have you actually tried putting a cushion and sitting on it with your feet on the floor and keeping your legs together?  Try it.  You will see why it is highly unlikely for JBC to have assumed such a position.I have never suggested that the wrist wound is caused by a fragment.  It was caused by the bullet that exited from the chest.  The bullet fragmented on striking the wrist and fragments deflected away from the point of contact with the radius bone.

All the evidence indicates that the second shot occurred much closer to the third shot, which puts it while JBC is turned around to the right. This gives the general idea of the trajectory:

The bullet exiting his chest at Z270 per your sketch , how could it not have gone thru his hat held in his right hand if there was an exit wound at the base of the palm?

Could you draw another sketch with how you think he’s holding the hat with the right hand?

If the official wrist wound description is correct that the entrance found was top of hand at the wrist and the exit was at the base of the palm then…

The hat had to be held in the right hand upside down so that the upper side of the right hand is hit first and the exit at the base of the palm follows.

So in your sketch for the angle of the shot at  Z270, it looks like a hat in the right hand held upside down between both legs would have a bullet ( or fragment ) exiting the palm  go thru the well of the hat.

Two of the monumental problems facing lone-gunman theorists, two problems they have yet to credibly explain, involve the low fragment trail described in the autopsy report and the obvious high fragment trail on the JFK autopsy skull x-rays.

The autopsy doctors wrote in the autopsy report, and repeated in their WC testimony, that during the autopsy they observed a fragment trail that ran upward from the rear head entry wound, which they said was slightly above the external occipital protuberance (EOP), to a point just above the right eye, i.e., the right supraorbital ridge. The supraorbital ridge is also called the brow ridge because it is the bone beneath your eyebrows. I quote the autopsy report:

Roentgenograms [x-rays] of the skull reveal multiple minute metallic fragments along a line corresponding with a line joining the above- described small occipital wound and the right supra-orbital ridge. (p. 4).

However, no such fragment trail appears on the existing autopsy skull x-rays. This fact was confirmed by the HSCA’s medical panel (FPP), was confirmed by the three ARRB forensic experts, and has been confirmed by numerous private experts, including Dr. David Mantik, Dr. Mike Chesser, Dr. Robert Livingston, Dr. John Lattimer, and Dr. Gary Aguilar.

The only fragment trail that appears on the extant skull x-rays is the high fragment trail that is plainly visible near the top of the head. It is a whopping 5.9 inches (15 cm) above the EOP. The majority of the fragments in the trail are clustered in the right-front part of the skull. Incredibly, the autopsy report says nothing about this fragment trail—absolutely nothing, not one word.

The high fragment trail is also 1.9 inches (5 cm) above the alleged “revised” entry site that was proposed by other experts years after the autopsy, i.e., the cowlick entry site. The cowlick site, first proposed by the Clark Panel in 1968, then the Rockefeller Commission’s medical panel in 1975, and then the FPP in 1979, is markedly higher than the autopsy report’s EOP site—it is 3.93 inches (10 cm) above the EOP site. The extreme implausibility that three pathologists could so severely mislocate the entry wound is another major problem for the lone-gunman theory, but I will not discuss it in this post.

There are only three explanations for why the existing autopsy skull x-rays do not show the low fragment trail described in the autopsy report:

One, the autopsy doctors committed the unbelievable blunder of mistaking the high fragment trail for a trail (1) that started a whopping 5.9 inches (15 cm) lower, (2) that was in a different bone of the skull (parietal vs. occipital), and (3) that ran at a downward angle instead of an upward angle from the back of the head, even though they had the EOP, the lambdoid suture, and the lambda as reference points (keep in mind they reflected the scalp so they could examine the wound in the skull). A first-year medical student would not make such an astonishing blunder.

Two, the autopsy doctors saw no fragment trail that ran from the EOP to the right eyebrow but falsely said they did (1) because they wanted to strengthen the case for the EOP entry site, (2) because the high fragment trail did not align with the EOP site, and (3) because there was no wound on the back of the head that they could associate with the high fragment trail.

Three, the low fragment trail was removed from the autopsy x-rays, or its fragments were removed from the skull and the skull was then x-rayed again, because some of the people involved in the medical cover-up recognized that the low fragment trail, like the EOP entry site, would pose unsolvable problems for the lone-gunman theory.

If the low fragment trail was present in Kennedy’s skull on the night of the autopsy, the people who were running the medical cover-up decided to get rid of it. Why would they have done this? Because the low fragment trail supported the EOP entry site, and because they could not allow the autopsy skull x-rays to show two separate fragment trails, since this would have clearly indicated two head shots.

Dr. Michael Chesser, a neurologist who has examined the autopsy materials at the National Archives, has concluded that those who were doing the medical cover-up moved the rear head entry wound partly because the EOP site and the autopsy report’s exit point do not line up with the high fragment trail:

I think that one of the reasons they moved the entry wound up was due to the fragment particle trail shown in the right lateral skull x-ray. If a line is drawn from the Warren Commission entry site and the proposed exit site, you’ll notice that the particle trail doesn’t correspond with these sites. The prominent particle trail is located in the upper portion of the skull.

Now if you do the same for the HSCA entry and exit sites, you’ll notice that the line is closer to the particle trail, but it still doesn’t seem to correspond. (Michael Chesser, “A Review of the JFK Cranial x-Rays and Photographs,” 2015, http://assassinationofjfk.net/a-review-of-the-jfk-cranial-x-rays-and-photographs/.)

Dr. Chesser then explains why the high fragment trail is consistent with a shot to the right-frontal region:

I am just one of many who believe that the entry site responsible for this particle trail was in the right frontal region, at or just above the hairline. If you notice the location, I’ve moved it up slightly from the skull defect which I think represents the entry site, because the right side of the frontal bone had separated and had dropped in relation to the left frontal skull. (“A Review of the JFK Cranial x-Rays and Photographs”)

I find it mind boggling that anyone would fall for the 9/11 Truther craziness. They should read some of Dr. David Mantik's research on the DNA evidence that proves that DNA from most of the hijackers was found at the WTC site, at the Pentagon crash site, and at the crash site in PA, proving that planes did in fact hit the Pentagon and Shanksville, PA. (9/11 Truthers don't deny that planes hit the WTC towers--yeah, since there are films showing the planes slamming into the towers).

Sadly, a number of left-wing WC skeptics have embraced the absurd theory that the Mossad played a role in JFK's death.

It sounds like Mansur has bought into Jihadism. Many Jihadists peddle 9/11 Trutherism and claim that Israel purposely attacked the USS Liberty in 1967.

Tell the Mantik bit to loonies at the Education Forum like W Niederhut, who appears to be single handedly destroying the place with his laughable agenda.

Give it up "Richard Smith"
  a bullet at 3200 ft per sec (even grazing) would result in more severe damage to both his ear and hearing.

So says internationally recognized ballistics expert Michael Capasse.