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Cokie Roberts was NOT suspended and Sam Pate was NOT fired after the recording he'd made.
ps; something had happened in the motorcade. 

Sam Pate was fired by KBOX just days after his reenactment although the station cited the reason only as a "personnel cut" without going into specifics.

My memory of the Cokie Roberts incident was that it was announced she was being suspended although the sources I checked now say it was a reprimand. Either way, it was a breach of ethics for her to fake a report from the Capitol when in fact she was in the studio the whole time.
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Cokie Roberts was NOT suspended and Sam Pate was NOT fired after the recording he'd made.
ps; something had happened in the motorcade. 
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Producer Nigel Turner used dramatic reconstructions with actors to portray the covertly recorded conversation between right-wing activist Joseph Milteer and police informant Willie Somerset on 'TMWKK' because the original surveillance audio recordings were either inaudible, structurally fragmented, or legally/technically unfit for direct broadcast.

Original 1963 police wire/surveillance recordings of Milteer were muffled, degraded, and difficult for general television audiences to understand clearly without enhancement or re-reading.

Using voice actors allowed the precise, controversial text of what Milteer stated regarding threats against President Kennedy to be presented coherently to the audience.

There is nothing unethical about that as long as it is clearly labeled as a DRAMATIZATION.

Likewise, in the early days of covering the space program, the networks would often simulate space maneuvers because the technology did not exist to show the actual event, but they always labeled those as SIMULATION.

ABC's Cokie Roberts was once suspended for her coverage of the State of the Union Address when she did a report wearing an overcoat while standing in front of a picture of the Capitol Building while in the ABC studios. There is, or at least there was, a strict code against faking a news report, even for something as benign as what Roberts did.
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Pretty sure John C was referring to Sam Pate's reenactment on the 1963 "Four Days That Shocked the World" album.

Sam Pate Oral History (Oral History Collection/The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza)

PS: I may have read Duncan's reply too quickly to realize that he was probably just citing another example of this practice to show that it wasn't unique.
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Over on The Education Forum Doudna never considers that the Oswald who took the car to Mrs Whitworth's gun shop on the 11th was the car-driving Lee...

The same "Oswald family" that showed up at the Texas radio station when Oswald was in Mexico...

Marina:  "Lee was two different people"...

I've tried to have an open mind about your posts because your reputation sure does precede you, and not in a good way. But now I'm sad to see that you apparently believe in the incomprehensible John Armstrong "Harvey and Lee" theory involving Lee and Marguerite Oswald doppelgangers? Is that correct?
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I'm sure every JFKA junkie has heard these words countless times in various documentaries over the decades. I bristle every time I hear it because it is a fraud. This audio clip is from a recreation made by the radio reporter the following day and it is a serious breach of journalistic ethics. It might be hard to believe now but there was a time when news organizations actually adhered to a code of ethics. The reporter who created this audio was fired for his breach of ethics, but that hasn't stopped producers of JFKA related documentaries from using this clip in their productions.

Producer Nigel Turner used dramatic reconstructions with actors to portray the covertly recorded conversation between right-wing activist Joseph Milteer and police informant Willie Somerset on 'TMWKK' because the original surveillance audio recordings were either inaudible, structurally fragmented, or legally/technically unfit for direct broadcast.

Original 1963 police wire/surveillance recordings of Milteer were muffled, degraded, and difficult for general television audiences to understand clearly without enhancement or re-reading.

Using voice actors allowed the precise, controversial text of what Milteer stated regarding threats against President Kennedy to be presented coherently to the audience.
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Just one question. What have you been sniffing?

At no time was JFK to the left of JBC.

Drainpipes.

While reciting the alphabet.
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Russia invaded Ukraine while Obama was president in 2014.  Ukraine had to capitulate because Obama refused to support them.  He was afraid of Russia.  Meanwhile Trump is supplying Ukraine with all manner of weapons to fight Russia.   Yet Trump is the KGB agent in your upside-down fantasy world.

"Trump’s hostile approach to the NATO allies has usually been justified by the apologists as 'the pivot to Asia.' The narrative was that Trump needed to prioritise military resources to Asia to confront the ascendant China. Obviously, this was always a smokescreen, although many casual pundits fell for the propaganda. The curtain is falling now. The last aircraft carrier, USS George Washington, is leaving the Pacific theatre and steaming towards the Middle East. Xi and the CCP bosses rejoice!"

-- Jacob Kaarsbo on Substack 8/16/26
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Here is z226:



JFK’s right ribcage is not only not pressed against the side of the car, we can see that he is farther left than JBC

Just one question. What have you been sniffing?

At no time was JFK to the left of JBC.

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Rather admitted that his account of what he saw was wrong, he gave a rushed account. He said he saw the film once - Zapruder projected it onto the back wall of his office - and rushed out to give an account of what he saw. And it wasn't a copy; it was the original.

Here is Rather in his memoirs: "The lawyer [Sam Passman, Zapruder's lawyer] laid out the ground rules for us: He had set up a projector in a private room. You went in, looked at the film one time, took no notes, came out and gave him your bid. I was already saying to myself, the bid comes second. The first thing I am going to do is look at the film, then knock the hinges off the door getting back to the station and describe what I had just seen. Then, and only then, would we get into the bidding."

And this (from Alexandra Zapruder's book):  For his part, Rather defends his misrepresentation of what was on the film not by acknowledging that it was irresponsible to give an account after having seen it only once, but as follows: “At the risk of sounding too defensive, I challenge anyone to watch for the first time a twenty-two-second film [sic] of devastating impact, run several blocks, then describe what they had seen in its entirety, without notes. Perhaps someone can do so better than I did that day. I only know that I did it as well and as honestly as I could under the conditions.”

Of course none of this matters. The same folks will repeat the same groundless claims and then demand their claims be proven wrong. When they are, they will ignore it and then repeat the claim. More than 60 years of this.

I can forgive Rather for mistakes he made after just one viewing of the Zfilm. What I find unforgiveable by both him ind Cronkite is their complete misrepresentation of the WC conclusions regarding the elapsed time of the shooting and when Oswad commenced firing. That was just garbage reporting and contributed to the public's mistrust of the WCR. Both of them said on the air on multiple occasions thut the WC had concluded the Oswald didn't fire his first shot until after JFK passed the tree and that he fired all 3 shots in under seconds. This is what the WC actually concluded ut the end of Chapter 3 on page 117:

TIME SPAN OF SHOTS

Witnesses at the assassination scene said that the shots were fired within a few seconds, with the general estimate being 5 to 6 seconds. That approximation was most probably based on the earlier publicized reports that the first shot struck the President in the neck, the second wounded the Governor and the third shattered the President's head, with the time span from the neck to the head shots on the President being approximately 5 seconds. As previously indicated, the time span between the shot entering the back of the President's neck and the bullet which shattered his skull was 4.8 to 5.6 seconds. If the second shot missed, then 4.8 to 5.6 seconds was the total time span of the shots. If either the first or third shots missed, then a minimum of 2.3 seconds (necessary to operate the rifle) must be added to the time span of the shots which hit, giving a minimum time of 7.1 to 7.9 seconds for the three shots. If more than 2.3 seconds elapsed between a shot that missed and one that hit, then the time span would be correspondingly increased.

CONCLUSION

Based on the evidence analyzed in this chapter, the Commission has concluded that the shots which killed President Kennedy and wounded Governor Connally were fired from the sixth-floor window at the southeast corner of the Texas School Book Depository Building. Two bullets probably caused all the wounds suffered by President Kennedy and Governor Connally. Since the preponderance of the evidence indicated that three shots were fired, the Commission concluded that one shot probably missed the Presidential limousine and its occupants, and that the three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately 4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds.
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