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Oh well, just another long wait for nothing.....

Who's saying your dumb ass has to wait?

Instead of criticizing the work of someone who is actually getting something done (before having even seen the work, no less), why not do something yourself?

Troll.  But we already knew that.
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Brennan has been proven to be a liar. The warren Commission stipulated that Oswald used three boxes as a rifle rest and he was angled pointing the rifle  towards the triple underpass and the route the motorcade was taking. Most of Oswald's body was obscured by the boxes he was using as a rifle rest yet Brennan stated this:"He was a white man in his early 30s, slender, nice-looking, and would weigh about 165 to 175 pounds". he also stated Oswald was 5' 10" tall. Brennan was at a 45 degree angle looking up at the building and he couldn't see Oswald's legs, he couldn't possibly know how high the window ledge was from the floor of that room without going in it so how could he conclude the sniper was 5' 10"? I'm sorry but you can't look into a window from a 45 degree angle from 100 feet way and know someone's height, weight and build unless you are superman and can see through brick walls. Many have suspected than Brennan was part of the patsy crew and I don't blame them. As for the black guys interpretation; even the Warren commission denied the rifle was hung out of the building 12 inches. They stated the tip of the barrel was resting at the end of the boxes.

Brennan's ID of Oswald was the least compelling piece of evidence against Oswald and would not have been needed to convict Oswald of murdering JFK had the case gone to trial. The real value of Brennan's account is that he established the shooter's location. Within minutes he told a cop where he had seen the shooter fired the third shot from and he was corroborated by finding of 3 shells at the window Brennan pointed out and also by the finding of the murder weapon on the same floor a short distance away. The forensic evidence alone would have been enough to easily convict Oswald.
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Zelenskyy was not in office in 2014 - in fact Ukraine went thru 3 Presidents that year.
Big talk. Once again, I really don't know what you are arguing. That was 12 years ago. meanwhile;

Here are 53 times Trump said he’d end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking office

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/25/politics/fact-check-trump-ukraine-war

Ugh.  You suddenly "don't know what I'm arguing"?   You claimed that there was no conflict between Russia and Ukraine under Obama.  Who was our president in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea (an important part of Ukraine)?  Here is a hint.  It was not Trump.  Riddle me this.  Trump, Putin, or Zelensky?  Which has suspended elections in his country with no end in sight?  Trump or Obama?  Who has provided military aid to Ukraine and who refused to do so for fear of Russia?
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Brennan has been proven to be a liar. The warren Commission stipulated that Oswald used three boxes as a rifle rest and he was angled pointing the rifle  towards the triple underpass and the route the motorcade was taking. Most of Oswald's body was obscured by the boxes he was using as a rifle rest yet Brennan stated this:"He was a white man in his early 30s, slender, nice-looking, and would weigh about 165 to 175 pounds". he also stated Oswald was 5' 10" tall. Brennan was at a 45 degree angle looking up at the building and he couldn't see Oswald's legs, he couldn't possibly know how high the window ledge was from the floor of that room without going in it so how could he conclude the sniper was 5' 10"? I'm sorry but you can't look into a window from a 45 degree angle from 100 feet way and know someone's height, weight and build unless you are superman and can see through brick walls. Many have suspected than Brennan was part of the patsy crew and I don't blame them. As for the black guys interpretation; even the Warren commission denied the rifle was hung out of the building 12 inches. They stated the tip of the barrel was resting at the end of the boxes.
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Hi James,

 My  Z frames are from the MPI DVD, I just brightened them up a little. 
I hope this frame 230 is what you need.


Best regards,
 Steve

 Z-230" border="0
Steve could you post one more frame from the MPI set. That would be frame Z325 if you would please. That will be the last frame I promise.
Thanks...James
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 09:00:03 PM »
Since TG's OCD requires us to live with two Mary Woodward threads, I guess I will have to post my insightful contributions on both, to wit:

We have failed to mention wacky Mary's FBI interview of 12/7/63. It's clear she crossed from Houston to Elm. Nothing about the grassy knoll. It conveniently omits the timing of the second and third shots.

She doesn't omit the timing of the second and third shots.  She says: "There seemed to be a pause of a few seconds, and then there were two more loud noises which she suddenly realized were shots..."

By mentioning a pause after the first of a few seconds and then two shots but not mentioning a similar pause between them, she provided a description that is consistent with her DMN story although with less specific detail.  Also, those words were written by the FBI. The DMN story and her 1988 THWKK clip were all her words.
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"three months to verify".

I'll work on my own timeline, thanks.

Oh well, just another long wait for nothing.....
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Thank you for that. We see that Jack Kennedy is clearly hit and JC is looking forward, in no discomfort and still holding his hat in his right hand. That ties with the testimony of Nell and John Connally quite well when they said JC was hit two seconds after Kennedy.

I guess you didn't notice he is in the process of flipping his injured right arm upward, a motion he began at exactly the same frame JFK's arms started moving upward, frame Z226. The reacted at the same time because they were shot at the same time. Well, a couple milliseconds apart. Close enough.
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You said there is no evidence of a second shooter yet I've yet to see evidence from any witness that stated they saw Oswald with a rifle in the TSBD or in the 6th floor window with a rifle. In a court of law in the United States first hand witnesses to the fact are first and foremost in any trial. They form the basis of most prosecutions and defences. Circumstantial and forensic evidence are used in conjunction with witnesses to the fact.

What nonsense. Eyewitnesses are the least reliable form of evidence. Convictions can be and often are obtained solely on forensic evidence. There was a witness who saw Oswald fire the final shot but his ID of Oswald is probably the least compelling piece of evidence against Oswald. The case can be made entirely on the forensic evidence. That evidence includes finger and palm prints, fiber evidence, ballistic matching, medical evidence, film evidence, and a paper trail proving Oswald ordered and was the owner of the murder weapon. There isn't a scrap of any of the above types of evidence that indicates there was a second shooter. All the forensic evidence points to Oswald alone.
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Nell and John Connally were first hand witnesses to the fact, they were in the limo and if they both state that John Connally was hit two seconds after Kennedy was first struck then that is what we have to go with. If you don't then the constitution of the United States isn't worth the paper it was written on. That would be akin to suggesting that first hand witnesses are not trust worthy in ANY trial.

I don't know where you got your understanding of constitutional law but nowhere in the Constitution does it say eyewitness accounts are required to obtain a conviction nor does it say eyewitness accounts should be accepted at face value. I've served on four juries, two civil and two criminal. Each time the judge instructed us to weigh the credibility of the witnesses based on a number of factors. I was on a murder trial where we had both eyewitness and forensic evidence. The only disagreement among the jurors was whether the element of premeditation had been proven. I was one of two who believed it had not and we prevailed.  We convicted the accused of the lesser charge. I also sat on a trial in a check forgery case. The prosecution presented no eyewitnesses to the crime yet the forensic evidence was so convincing we convicted the guy in less than an hour. Eyewitnesses are not end all, be all nor should they be.
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There are five video's available of five railroad workers who testified on film that they saw gunsmoke and heard shots fired from the picket fence. I'll post them later. None of them were allowed to testify before the Warren commission. Show me one video or piece of evidence from anyone who saw Oswald with a rifle in Dealey Plaza.

Correction. They saw SMOKE. Modern gun smoke does not billow. It dissipates almost immediately and if it had been fired from behind the fence, it wouldn't have made it into the clear for anybody on the overpass to see it. Lots of people had different ideas about where the sounds indicated the shots came from. Some said all three shots came from the GK and some said all three came from the direction of the TSBD. The three spent shells in the sniper's nest tells us which group got it right.
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You've already had three months to verify....

You sound like Trump. Stop being evasive and delaying and simply present the evidence that the "affidavits" are authentic!

The mere fact that you feel that holding you to the same standard you constantly demand from others is being hateful says everything anybody needs to know about you.

"three months to verify".

I'll work on my own timeline, thanks.
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