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While I'm sure Hickey Howard (as those of us who knew him best always called him) was a talented gunsmith who adopted stray puppies and never beat his wife, the fact is that he pretty well destroyed George Hickey's life with his insane theory. Mortal Error is based 100% on Donahue. Hickey sued him and everyone involved in multiple forums but lost on purely technical (statute of limitation) grounds. Hickey probably belongs with Ruth Paine and Clay Shaw on the Mt. Rushmore of those defamed by CT wackos. There is a woman at the Ed Forum (but of course!) named Denise Hazelwood who is doing her fanatical best to keep the defamation alive: https://www.a-benign-conspiracy.com/.
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Many, many times I have had dreams about the assassination.  I've lost count.
The ones that were really weird stick out more than others. 

I don't know how many researchers I have asked over the years if they've ever had a dream about it, and not one ever said yes.

 One of the weirdest was when I was when I dreamt I worked at the TSBD and Oswald worked there. We never spoke to each other or anything like that. He was just there.
Somehow, the motorcade was coming, and I was in a position inside the depository where I was looking up from below Oswald as he was at the 6th floor window waiting for the motorcade to come by, and I'm sitting or standing there watching him with the rifle pointed out the window.  The motorcade drives by, he fired shots, but I didn't see the limousine in the dream, so I didn't know if he struck JFK or not.  The focus in the dream was watching Oswald fire the rifle.  Then I woke up.

WOW, that is interesting in the extreme! Your experience with other JFKA researchers parallels my experience with evangelical Christians. I wonder how on earth we would explain your multiple dreams???

It just occurred to me that I HAVE had multiple, very realistic UFO dreams. I see the craft and tell myself very excitedly "This is no dream. This is real. This is really happening." - but then, alas, it's a dream.
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This is Episode 1 of a new feature, "Weird thread of the week." All suggestions are welcome.

When I was heavily involved in Christian theology and apologetics, it occurred to me that I had NEVER had a dream that was even vaguely biblical, let alone a visitation by Jesus or Mary or anything like that. NOTHING. I posted the question on several evangelical forums and people were in near-unanimous agreement that, by God, they too had never had a dream relating to this central theme of their waking lives.

Golf, I have to admit, is probably the central theme of my waking life since the age of 12. Only in recent years, however, have I started having some pretty vivid golf dreams. When Carl Jung, the famed Swiss psychologist, was ill with a terminal illness, he was amazed that he had absolutely no dreams relating to death or his own mortality; it was one of the things that convinced him bodily death was "no big deal" to his core self.

So, JFKA fanatics, enquiring minds wonder if you have ever had any sort of JFKA-related dreams? (Dreams in which Jedgar and Clyde Tolson are doing weird things with inflatable dolls do not count; we would like something a little more directly related if possible.) If you have had no such dreams, don't you find this a bit odd? Bonus points for JFKA-related dreams in which Jesus appeared.

 
Many, many times I have had dreams about the assassination.  I've lost count.
The ones that were really weird stick out more than others. 

I don't know how many researchers I have asked over the years if they've ever had a dream about it, and not one ever said yes.

 One of the weirdest was when I was when I dreamt I worked at the TSBD and Oswald worked there. We never spoke to each other or anything like that. He was just there.
Somehow, the motorcade was coming, and I was in a position inside the depository where I was looking up from below Oswald as he was at the 6th floor window waiting for the motorcade to come by, and I'm sitting or standing there watching him with the rifle pointed out the window.  The motorcade drives by, he fired shots, but I didn't see the limousine in the dream, so I didn't know if he struck JFK or not.  The focus in the dream was watching Oswald fire the rifle.  Then I woke up.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Zeon Mason on Yesterday at 08:40:41 PM »
3 shots in 10 to 12 seconds is a reasonable rate of fire for either a semi-auto, a bolt action, or a lever gun. There's no way JBC could figure out what kind of rifle it was based on the rate of fire even though his impression was that it was a semi-auto. That is nothing more than a guess. We can safely say it wasn't a full auto, since a full auto would fire 100 rounds in 10 seconds. Even if we limited Oswald to 5.6 seconds, that's 56 rounds. Anybody want to take that position?

But those last 2 shots that the 3/4ths majority have spaced only 1-2 secs apart is what is contradicting JC or Buell W Frazier 10-12 sec recollection.

How many other witness spaces the shots out to 10-12 secs?
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They follow Stalins Marxist creed in California: it does not matter how many voters there are or who they are , whether they are legal citizens or illegal aliens, or dead people or dogs and cats. The only important thing is to make sure that the votes are being counted by Marxist Democrats.

   Yes, you have the Stalin philosophy correct. And Calif reflects this. The only Joe 6 Packs still living inside Calif, are those that can Not afford to relocate. These people are trapped inside a modern day plantation.
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I’m in agreement with the LNs that the coincidence of the in sync movements of JFK and JC from Z224-Z230 are due to one bullet going thru both men.

I’m just not on board with that bullet being CE 399.

I’m in agreement with LNs that there was probably just the one shooter in the TSBD 6th floor who fired 3 shots.

I’m just not on board that the rifle was the MC rifle found on the 6th floor because of Harold Norman’s 4 sec spacing for all 3 shots fired as per  his boom click click demonstration. A bolt action rifle fired , then  ejecting shells and then shells hitting the ground would be a more elaborate set of sounds such as 
Boom, ( rifle firing ) clack clack ,(bolt operation)  clink clink. ( sound of shells bouncing on the hard wooden plank/ plywood floor)

I’m not sure about JC’s  wrist wound being caused by the Z224 shot. JC raising his right hand up clutching the hat could be just as well reaction to the bullet going ONLY thru his chest and into his thigh. The bullet might have missed his wrist depending where JC is holding his hat with his right hand at that moment.

What’s the probability of a fragment from the Z313 shot hitting JCs wrist while he was leaning back into Mrs C lap?
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Why would other shooter than Oswald choose TSBD and Dealey Plaza as the place to shoot at JFK limo?

I’ve long since given up on the idea that there was more than one shooter , because one shooter , especially a well trained one is good enough at ranges less than 100 yds.

I don't think anyone other than Oswald would choose TSBD6. It just has way too many risks associated with it. For that matter, I've expressed puzzlement that Oswald would choose it. It was the lunch hour, the M-C was nicely wrapped as curtain rods, no one paid any attention to Oswald anyway, and he could have easily decamped to a much more plausible location like the roof of the Dal-Tex or County Records building. Oswald and his M-C on TSBD6 makes sense if he was a dupe and was somehow (how?) induced to shoot from this unlikely location, with the conspirators (e.g., Mafia) not caring if he was caught or killed because he knew nothing anyway except that he was part of a pro-Castro plot. If he got lucky and killed JFK, that would be the end of the matter. However, because TSBD6 was highly risky and Oswald and his M-C were marginally reliable at best, a pro was stationed on the roof of the Dal-Tex or County Records building if needed (as he was). Either of those locations was essentially risk-free for a pro dressed like a businessman with a briefcase assassination rifle. In this scenario, Dealey Plaza really wasn't a bad assassination scene. I think this scenario makes near-perfect sense; the challenge is filling in the blanks with something resembling evidence, as John Orr is at least trying to do. If one doesn't like the Mafia scenario, an anti-Cuban pro works just as well.

Of course, if OSWALD HIMSELF really didn't care if he was caught or killed, then the TSBD6 and the LN narrative works fine.
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Do any of the aforementioned possibilities make more sense to you than Oswald smuggled his rifle into work that day and used it to kill JFK.

Only maybe the LBJ conspiracy  does and in  that one Oswald IS the shooter. So that’s a kind of conspiracy by LBJ of hiding info from JFK that there a potential threat from Oswald working in TSBD and encouraging JFK to visit Dallas via open top limo traveling slowly.
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So is it your belief that JBC suddenly flipped his right arm upward at Z226 in anticipation of it being struck by a bullet 3.6 seconds later?

This is beyond silly.

The people who claim the SBT is preposterous rarely want to tell us why it is preposterous.

You have no clue what you're talking about. If you would ever dare yourself to read just some of the scholarly refutations of the SBT, you would quickly discover that they have explained in great detail why the theory is preposterous.

When they attempt to do that, their arguments get shot down like clay pigeons.

Perhaps in your dreams. BTW, which SBT do you accept? The one that has the bullet entering at C7 or the one that has the bullet entering at T1? The one that has the bullet traveling at a downward angle or the one that has the bullet traveling at a slightly upward angle? The one that has the bullet hitting JFK above the alleged exit point or the one that has the bullet hitting JFK slightly below the exit point? The one that has Connally rotated to the right by 10-15 degrees or the one that has him rotated to the right by 20-30 degrees? The one that has the magic bullet as the first shot or the one that has it as the second shot? The one that has the bullet hitting JFK at Z188-190, or the one that has the bullet hitting JFK at Z221, or the one that has the bullet hitting JFK at Z224? The one that says JFK shows no signs of reacting to the wound until Z226, or the one that says he is already reacting in Z225, or the one that says he begins to react at Z200?

Just for once, do a modicum of balanced research and educate yourself:

The Shifting Sands of the Single-Bullet Theory
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MOKXTpq1hC5UHrF-JanDjQvzk2q0HvRF/view

JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MAgWA0frOLVeWY6ok9nzdrgpRN4Wv1AL/view?usp=sharing

Ten Reasons I Reject the Single-Bullet Theory
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-7AW56BXCumXFsOwyN6lE0WTBltOzeYI/view
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 07:54:13 PM »
That’s kind of contradictory for JC to make a statement he thought the rifle was a semi auto rifle and then say he’s estimating  3 shots in 10-12 secs. He’s in the minority on that estimate.

As far as the Will Fritz thing, my Bing AI says yes it’s true that he picked up the shells before they were photographed. Maybe GROK will know?

3 shots in 10 to 12 seconds is a reasonable rate of fire for either a semi-auto, a bolt action, or a lever gun. There's no way JBC could figure out what kind of rifle it was based on the rate of fire even though his impression was that it was a semi-auto. That is nothing more than a guess. We can safely say it wasn't a full auto, since a full auto would fire 100 rounds in 10 seconds. Even if we limited Oswald to 5.6 seconds, that's 56 rounds. Anybody want to take that position?
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