JFK Assassination Forum

    "....we don't need to know......". Revealing and Sad at the same time.

No, it is understanding the reality of the situation. There are things we can't possibly know but that doesn't mean we have to disregard what we do know. Since conspiracy hobbyists lost their grip on reality a long time ago, I'm not surprised you can't grasp that.

You express beliefs about things you couldn't possibly know, such as your belief that Oswald had somehow figured out something had gone wrong with the plot. You confuse belief with knowledge, but that seems to be a requirement for those who insist Oswald didn't fire the shots that killed JFK.

   The above is indicative of why some people chose to use a shotgun. It randomly throws stuff all over the place. If you want an extra 5 seconds, you still need 25 seconds to: (1) Put Calvery, Lovelady, & Shelley in motion, (2) Have the 3 converge),  (3) They then converse, and, (4) Shelley and Lovelady begin moving down the Elm St Ext. (For whatever reason). Still not possible.
    With respect to "Oh they have shot that man, they have shot that man". That general verbiage is referenced by Witt/Umbrella Man in his HSCA Testimony. Except Witt says it was being repeated by a lady somewhere BEHIND him. Witt and The Cuban were sitting on the retaining wall at this point in time. Behind the 2 of them was The Knoll. Do you still want to Speculate that this was Calvery saying this? This is why a broad JFK Assassination Foundation is critical. Do your research. It is a time consuming Brick-By-Brick journey. But well worth the effort.
    You Speculate that Calvery, Shelley, & Lovelady held their "Pow-Wow" on the Island. So I am guessing this would be on the very corner of the Island. About where Officer Baker ran across the Island? This would also place the 3 of them in front of the "getaway" car, just like Baker was. So, in order for Shelley and Lovelady to then be filmed walking down the Elm St Extension, they would 1st have to walk around the front of the "getaway" car and then move down the Elm St. Ext. Why wouldn't Shelley and Lovelady instead proceed in a straight line from the corner of the Island and then walk passed the front and back passenger doors of the "getaway" car? Why would they go out of their way to walk around the front of the "getaway" car and then proceed down the Elm Ext?  Maybe you now want to move that "Pow-Wow" to being conducted in front of the TSBD? Of course, there is precious Tick/Tock involved with this relocation. 

You completely missed the point. As far as Witt's testimony is concerned, the only important definition of Grassy Knoll is whatever he thought it was..

    "Whatever he thought it was"? Now you're getting into Bill Clinton territory. Please stop dragging this out.
  (1) Witt testified that he was walking straight toward Elm St. (2) He ID'd himself as being in the photo showing him and The Cuban sitting on the retaining wall after the kill shot. (3) He testified something along the lines of, "We just sat down" following the kill shot. ALL of this clearly shows what section of the "Grassy Knoll" Witt was referring to. It helps to be familiar with the entire Witt HSCA Testimony.

Every dollar Russian spends to prop up the Cuban regime is one more dollar they can't spend on the war in Ukraine, so there is some benefit there. Eventually Russia will come to the same conclusion that the Soviet Union did in Afghanistan. They can't afford to keep pouring money into a bottomless pit and will eventual decide to cease hostilities. I truly believe they are continuing the Ukraine war for Putin to save face. If he were to pass on, I think his successors would find a graceful exit strategy very quickly.

...as people senselessly die in Cuba.

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Of course we don't need to know why Oswald did it. It would be nice if we could figure it out but not necessary in order to prove that he did. Proving motive is not something that is required to convict a person for murder. All that is necessary is to prove that the accused committed the act. We have ample proof of Oswald's guilt.

Oswald didn't duck into the theater to watch a bad movie. He did that to escape detection from the police who were looking for a cop killer. If not for an alert Johnny Brewer, it might have worked. He could have sat through the double feature until dark and then left with the other patrons. Who knows where he would have gone after that. Who cares. It is a moot point.

You seem skeptical that Oswald would carry the rifle across the sixth floor and then hide it. What was he supposed to do with it? Walk out the front door carrying the rifle on his shoulder. He wasn't stupid. He would have known the rifle would eventually be found whether he left it in the sniper's nest or hid it between rows of boxes. Perhaps he thought, hiding it as he did might by him a little more time to escape. We don't need to read Oswald's mind or second guess every decision he made to know he was the assassin. We have ample proof of that.

The difference between you and me is that most of what I believe is based on rock solid evidence with a few loose ends that are left to speculation, such as Oswald's motive or what his plan was once he left the TSBD. My own belief, which is pure speculation, is he had no plan. I think he was surprised he got away from the TSBD, but that's something we can never know nor do we need to. On the other hand, EVERRYTHING you believe is based on speculation, and then only after you invent one cockamamie excuse after another to ignore each and every piece of evidence that screams to us that Oswald was the assassin.

The assassination of JFK is not a mystery and never has been. Within the first four hours, the DPD believed they had their man and in roughly 12 hours, they had accumulated enough evidence to formally charge him. Since that time, the case against Oswald has only gotten stronger. The only question that remained after that was whether he had one or more accomplices. Two government investigations and legions of amateur sleuths looking for evidence of such accomplices over six decades, no one has found any evidence to identify any accomplices. The JFK conspiracy hobby is an exercise in futility that has been striking out over and over again for 62 years. If you haven't found evidence in that time of any accomplices, what makes you think you ever will.

   "....we don't need to know....".
   Your own words taint everything you post with respect to Oswald.