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Okay I got confused about the “missing metal”from the nose of CE399 vs the “flakes” of metal that Dr. Gregory described. Some metal was removed from the nose of CE399 for testing after it was found.

Nevertheless , those “flakes” that Dr. Gregory removed came from JCs WRIST  and are claimed to be from the CE 399 bullet. So my question still is how could Andrews proposed 1st  shot at Z193 possibly CE 399 since it did NOT hit JCs wrist?

I'm not sure if Andrew thinks CE399 is the bullet that hit the thigh or the wrist but either way he has a problem. Only two bullets were recovered, CE399 at Parkland and the headshot whose fragments were found on the floor of the limo that evening by the SS. There should be another bullet in the car. I believe he suggested earlier that on the JBC bullets hit the windshield so that could be the fragmented bullet on the floor but then what happened to the headshot bullet. Also how does a bullet striking either the thigh or the wrist on a downward angle and then magically elevate to go over the top of the front seat and strike the windshield. Either way, he has some explaining to do.

I'm glad I'm a proponent of the WC scenario. We don't have to deal with these dilemmas. Early on, there were some puzzling questions but reasonable answers to those were figured out a long time ago. I don't think we have any holes to fill for which there are no reasonable possibilities.
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Earlene Roberts account is probably one of the least important pieces of evidence we have. She said Oswald came and went ABOUT 1:00. I have no reason to doubt that. She said he had his jacket on. While I have no reason to doubt that either, I wouldn't take it to the bank solely her word. The fact Oswald was seen throwing the jacket under a car and a jacket was retrieved from there that was identified belonging to him is enough for me. It witl never be enough for the dedicated CTs. They aren't in search of answers. Their game is to come up with excuses to reject evidence. Like Oswald's jacket that was found under the car.

That's talking out of two sides of your mouth.
"I don't take much in Roberts, but she did she a jacket."

The fact Oswald was seen throwing the jacket under a car....

who saw that?
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Okay I got confused about the “missing metal”from the nose of CE399 vs the “flakes” of metal that Dr. Gregory described. Some metal was removed from the nose of CE399 for testing after it was found.

Nevertheless , those “flakes” that Dr. Gregory removed came from JCs WRIST  and are claimed to be from the CE 399 bullet. So my question still is how could Andrews proposed 1st  shot at Z193 possibly CE 399 since it did NOT hit JCs wrist?
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They ignored completely my list of questions mainly : WHO found the jacket  under the car and WHO found the blue gray jacket in the Domino room and WHY was it found in the Domino room?

It’s like arguing with Copernicus, who would say well , yes, those anomalous  planetary motions  exist , however they are only a minor discrepancy. . Trust the other Mountain of evidence that the Earth is at the Center of the Universe and that the Pope ( WC ) has concluded the theory is proved beyond reasonable doubt.

Spot on Zeon.

They always ignore critical questions or refuse to answer them.

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??  The angle of the sightline to Zapruder is a tad more than 30 degrees as I showed in my map of DP. Connally is turned well past that sightline so it is definitely more than 30 degrees.


  If you think that is wrong, then you should do your own measurement on a scale drawing of DP.  I used the drawing in the inside cover of Trask's book: Pictures of the Pain.  It is also what I built my 3D sketchup model of DP on.

I have no problem with that drawing. I'll take it at face value. I disagree with your assessment of JBC's shoulder turn. If you are talking about the relationship of JBC's shoulders to the Zapruder sight line, I would say at most they are perpendicular. If anything, they look slightly less. His head is turned much more sharply to his right but certainly not his shoulders. Check the Z193 frame I added to my earlier post. I see more of JBC's jacket on his right side than on his left. That indicates to me his shoulder turn is short of perpendicular to the sight line. If he was turned beyond perpendicular, we would see more of his left side.
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This BS again?

We've just discussed most of it in the "Podcast on Tippit" thread, where you ran away because you didn't want to answer my question about Earlene Roberts and now you want to do it all over again.

Oh well, have fun, but dealing with your propaganda once in a month is more than enough for me.

They ignored completely my list of questions mainly : WHO found the jacket  under the car and WHO found the blue gray jacket in the Domino room and WHY was it found in the Domino room?

It’s like arguing with Copernicus, who would say well , yes, those anomalous  planetary motions  exist , however they are only a minor discrepancy. . Trust the other Mountain of evidence that the Earth is at the Center of the Universe and that the Pope ( WC ) has concluded the theory is proved beyond reasonable doubt.

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I liked Trump long before he attacked Iran. Anyone who kept Hillary and Kamala from becoming POTUS is a hero in my book.

Amen to that!
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I suggest you are seeing what you want to see. JBC's shoulder rotation in your photo looks about 30 degrees to me. Your drawing shows a turn that is well past 45 degrees. If the shoulders in the forward facing position are at the 9:00 position and the perpendicular position to that is 12:00, I would put JBC's rotation in the photo at 10:00 and 11:00 in your drawing. That's a 30 degree difference
??  The angle of the sightline to Zapruder is a tad more than 30 degrees as I showed in my map of DP. Connally is turned well past that sightline so it is definitely more than 30 degrees.


  If you think that is wrong, then you should do your own measurement on a scale drawing of DP.  I used the drawing in the inside cover of Trask's book: Pictures of the Pain.  It is also what I built my 3D sketchup model of DP on. 
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TG-

You will find plenty of crackpots to discuss your views on the Middle East at Education Forum.

@BC ( from ZN) : TG is an LN crackpot so he would be SOL at EF. TG seems to prefer the JFKA forum probably because  he enjoys proposing his absurd 3 shots / 10 secs theory and his KGB conspiracy theories and displaying his TDS.

TG may have memory problems as he often confuses me ( ZM) with Jake the Great GK shooter theorist or Max the hooded avatar CT who  proposes  Hickey accidentally shot  JFK with an AR 15 rifle.

However, If TG ever becomes a wildly uncontrollable crackpot advocating that the Holocaust never happened and that Mossad planted thermite demolition devices in the Twin Towers on 911, then I’m sure that someone will call the appropriate medical emergency professionals and have TG examined to see if he is mentally unbalanced and a danger to society or if he is just being a clown. 😳

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You made your reply before I added the actual Z193 frame to my original post but we now have that for comparison as well.
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I appreciate the fair critique of my Sketchup 3D skills.  Jerry Organ does a much better job. 

But the position of the shoulder is really not that important.  It is the position of the lower and middle back that matters because the bullet is travelling on a downward slope of 18 degrees relative to the car at that point and just passes over the back of the jump seat:

I see virtually no difference between the position of the shoulders and the lower back. Both would have blocked a bullet exiting JFK's throat from going directly to the thigh.
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So it would have to pass by the middle/lower back, not the shoulder or upper back, in order to strike the thigh directly.  But I do appreciate that you think the trajectory intersecting with the left side of JBC is possible.
It only looks possible in your exaggerated drawing, not in the photo of JBC's simulated position and not in the actual Z-frame.
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It all depends on how much JBC is turned in z193.  I suggest he is turned to past the sightline to Zapruder which is 30 degrees or a 1 o'clock position but it is difficult to be exact because of the poor resolution.  It is at least a 1:30/45 degree turn.

I suggest you are seeing what you want to see. JBC's shoulder rotation in your photo looks about 30 degrees to me. Your drawing shows a turn that is well past 45 degrees. If the shoulders in the forward facing position are at the 9:00 position and the perpendicular position to that is 12:00, I would put JBC's rotation in the photo at 10:00 and 11:00 in your drawing. That's a 30 degree difference

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