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What's revealing is that Michael Griffith said he believes in the HSCA acoustic evidence. That is four shots: three from the TSBD (or behind JFK) and one shot from the fence/GK (or to his right side.) That alone disproves a entrance shot to the throat. That's if, as he does, believe the acoustic analysis.

Apparently you haven't read my article on the acoustical evidence nor my posts in this forum on the subject. I've pointed out many times that the acoustical evidence does not automatically require one to believe that only four shots were fired and that three of them came from the alleged Oswald window, since the HSCA's Dealey Plaza test firing only fired shots from the sixth-floor window and from one spot behind the fence on the grassy knoll, and since, as the HSCA acoustical experts noted, a shot fired from several feet back from a window would not be recorded by the dictabelt (at least not recorded enough to detect). And, needless to say, shot fired by a gunman using a silencer would not have been recorded by the dictabelt.

Now, are you going to address the evidence that the throat wound was an entrance wound?

He also believes there was a shooter on top of the linen truck and that Babushka Lady was a CIA agent, June Cobb, and that she "possibly" shot JFK with a camera gun. That's two more shots. And he believes that Oswald conspired with Shaw and Ferrie in a triangulated assassination of JFK. That's another shooter, at least.

I'm not sure where you're getting half of this stuff. I've never said anything about a shooter on top of the linen truck, and I've never said that Oswald conspired with Shaw and Ferrie in a triangulated shooting of JFK (although I do believe there was triangulation, but not involving Oswald).

Yes, I do believe that June Cobb was a CIA agent, based on Mary Haverstick's ground-breaking research in her recent book A Woman I Know. I'm guessing you haven't read the book. And, yes, I do believe it's possible that the Babushka Lady, whether or not she was June Cobb, may have used a gun camera to fire a shot at JFK--again, based on Haverstick's research. Gun cameras were definitely a thing by 1963, and the Babushka Lady's actions seem odd and suspicious. See Haverstick's research.

Now, are you going to address the evidence that the throat wound was an entrance wound?

He has shooters all over Dealey Plaza shooting from various angles and locations. But he also believe the HSCA acoustic analysis of two shooters and two locations.

I don't have shooters "all over Dealey Plaza," and the acoustical evidence does not mean that only four shots were fired, as explained above.

Now, are you going to address the evidence that the throat wound was an entrance wound?

He believes in things that contradict other things that he believes. It's a mishmash of claims that are at odds with other claims. Day after day, week after week, month after month. For decades.

The supposed "contradictions" are in your mind and are based on your lack of knowledge of my research and of other scholarly research.

Now, are you going to address the evidence that the throat wound was an entrance wound? 

It's the classic example of a disordered conspiracy obsessed mind.

Well, of course. Anyone who disagrees with your minority view of the JFK case simply must have "a disordered conspiracy obsessed mind." It just can't be that your view on the case is a decidedly minority view because your version of the assassination is implausible and untenable. No, that just can't be. 

At least I'm in good company, since 2/3 to 3/4 of the Western world believes JFK was killed by a conspiracy, and since the last official federal investigation into the assassination concluded that JFK was killed by a conspiracy, that two gunmen were involved, that a shot came from the grassy knoll, that there is credible evidence that anti-Castro Cubans were trying to frame Oswald weeks before the assassination, that Jack Ruby had significant Mafia ties, that Ruby lied about how he entered the basement to shoot Oswald, that Ruby lied about why he shot Oswald, and that someone was moving boxes in the sixth-floor window within 2 minutes after the shooting when Oswald could not have been there.

Now, are you going to address the evidence that the throat wound was an entrance wound?

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The first photo I posted was a crop from a higher definition of the one you linked to! So....
Secondly, why would an electrical box be mounted at a right angle instead of flush against the wall? and on the second floor??
Thirdly, why would the lower section be cut out to fit over the facia?
Fourthly, why is the "front on" photo showing an electrical box with no depth?
And finally, in the following higher res copy of the image, as opposed to the photo in your link, the cable you claim leads to the electrical box, passes by right in front and is not seen in any other hi-res photo.











BTW, establishing a box from a virtually shadowless object in a two dimensional photo is not a good technique, just saying.

JohnM

   JOHN - Thanks for posting these photos. Whatever the original purpose of this "object" might have been, it did obstruct seeing the area atop the Huge Gates when turning from Houston St onto Elm St. This would include the "scanning" vision of the SS and DPD law enforcement. Remember: (1) DPD Officer Smith ran down the Elm St Ext due to being told that they were shooting the President through the "bushes", (2) Mal Couch WC Testimony of hearing witnesses talking about shot(s) being fired through the "Shrubs", (3) Bill Newman reporting that shot(s) were being fired from the "Garden", and (4) Alyea film footage of DPD detectives looking out/down from the TSBD 6th floor window directly above the Huge Gates. This window being all the way down the side of the TSBD AWAY from the sniper's nest. A possible shooter atop the Huge Gates, laying down, and hugging the TSBD, would Not be seen due to this "object". The firing of shot(s) from atop the "wide open" Huge Gates would cause Tree Leafs to fall. This could have given the eyewitnesses the false impression of shot(s) being fired from the "bushes" and/or "shrubs".     
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MTG should work in the legacy media. When they get caught in a lie, as MTG has been recently, they simply ignore it and move on to their next BS story.
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Humm, a few weeks ago, your line was that you defer to the HSCA FPP and their "UNANIMOUS" findings. Then, confronted with some of the FPP's findings that wreak havoc on your version of the shooting, your next line was "I don't have to explain the medical evidence." Nah, of course not, because that would require you to at least know the basics about the medical evidence, which you clearly do not. And so now, your new line is "Nobody cares," i.e., that you don't care, which is perhaps your most honest line yet.

I was speaking specifically about their finding that JFK was shot twice from behind. But you have a long history of taking people's statements out of context and not quoting them accurately. When someone quotes a single word or phrase out of context, as you have here, it's a safe bet they are trying to misrepresent what a person actually said......as you have here.
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This is one of the reasons I dismiss Nellie Connally's account of the assassination. In her version, JFK clutched his throat. I'll cut her some slack. Under the circumstances, it's perfectly understandable why she would be so bewildered about what was happening inside the car.
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At least they are still carrying it out.  Many states with the death penalty refuse to do so allowing the subjective opposition of certain politicians to override the law, judicial system, and will of the citizens of their state.   There once might have been a valid concern on the basis of some innocent person being executed but with DNA and other advances it is now possible to prove beyond any doubt the involvement of a specific individual in many such crimes.  The endless efforts to thwart the death penalty even in the most heinous crimes against women and children is just another example of misplaced liberalism.  The same people have little concern for American citizens when they are murdered or assaulted by illegal aliens.   In many cases, they won't even acknowledge the immigration status of the criminal.

That is the case in my home state of Ohio. Governor Mike DeWine. a long time RINO, has created a moratorium on executions. He is on record as opposing the death penalty. There are currently 116 prisoners on death row. Vivek Ramaswamy, the favorite to win the governorship this fall, has said he will unblock the back log of death sentences. I doubt he will get the chance. I'm betting DeWine will commute all of those death sentences on his way out the door. Governors in other states have done that in the past and I fully expect DeWine to follow suit.
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As Donald Trump recently said to his Energy Secretary Chris Wright, "Nobody cares".

Humm, a few weeks ago, your line was that you defer to the HSCA FPP and their "UNANIMOUS" findings. Then, confronted with some of the FPP's findings that wreak havoc on your version of the shooting, your next line was "I don't have to explain the medical evidence." Nah, of course not, because that would require you to at least know the basics about the medical evidence, which you clearly do not. And so now, your new line is "Nobody cares," i.e., that you don't care, which is perhaps your most honest line yet.

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The logical fallacies are literally mind boggling.

Make you case and give me one example of a logical fallacy

I did.  If you entertain the possibility that Oswald did not kill Tippit and that the investigators were attempting to frame him for this crime as you do, then that is impossible to square with the investigators suppressing an Oswald wallet found at the Tippit murder scene as you also suggest happened.  The discovery of such a wallet at the murder scene is highly incriminating to its owner.  Your fantasy involves a wallet being suppressed because there would then be two Oswald wallets in evidence.  If the investigators have the ability to suppress one such wallet, then it's not going to be the one left at the crime scene because that links Oswald directly to the crime - either because he committed it or it was planted for that very purpose.  Either way no one has any incentive to suppress that wallet. If they need to put something in it from Oswald's arrest wallet or switch the wallets, they just do so because they control the evidence but there would no logical reason abandon the critical fact that it was left at the crime scene.  Your claims are not only baseless but contradictory in purpose with the investigators working against their own interest either in solving the crime or framing Oswald for that crime. 
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I accidentally deleted my original post so I am reposting it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/florida-s-oldest-executed-inmate-s-last-words-revealed/ar-AA26yKl3?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=6a3e6e2a27aa4507b21395079cd03e5e&ei=38

Florida just executed the oldest inmate to receive the death penalty. He was 74. Same age as me. The joke is he committed his murder in 1992. 25-30 years has become the norm for death penalty cases to exhaust appeals which is absurd. Another 74 year old man is scheduled to be executed later this year. When somebody receives the death penalty, they are more likely to die of hardening of the arteries before their sentence is carried out.

In the infamous In Cold Blood murder of the Clutter family in 1959 Dick Hickock and Perry Smith were hanged 5 1/2 years after their heinous act. It was never brought out in either the book or the movie but they were also the prime suspects in the slaughter of another family of four in Florida while they were on the lam from the Clutter murders. They were known to be in the area when the murders took place. It seems to me 5 1/2 years is a reasonable length of time to hear all appeals. Once that time period runs out, the only grounds for appeal that should be allowed is if compelling evidence is presented that the condemned person was innocent of the crime. If that can't be done, it's time to say, "Sorry about your bad luck. Adios".

I also think doing away with lethal injections would be a good step. I don't know why we ever did away with hanging. It worked quite well.
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JC--

Say you lived in a town somewhere, and Mr. Smith was murdered.

The mayor says to the police chief, "Whatever you do, don't look into Mr. Jones. He is too important to the prosperity of the town."

Indeed, years later we would have little evidence that Mr. Jones murdered Mr. Smith.

That is what happened to the WC/FBI. They were told not to follow leads in Havana, and people lost their jobs for doing so.

Gus Russo is a serious JFKA scholar and no leftie. He says much what I say: There was no investigation into LHO connections to Havana.

A rather humorous tale. The CTs have been looking for evidence that Mr. Jones was complicit in the assassination and have come up empty. Why would anyone believe Mr. Jones had anything to do with it. If we are going to simply assume Mr. Jones was involved, why stop there. Why not accuse, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Robinson, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Rogers, Mr. Michaels, or Mr. Thomas. Oh, wait. The CTs have already done that. Never mind.

I was ready to assume Russo was just another CT huckster separating gullible CTs from their money but I decided to look into it. According to Wikipedia, Oswald acted on his own in retribution of JFK's policies toward Cuba. While nobody knows why Oswald decided to kill JFK, that seems as good an explanation as any. It wouldn't require Oswald to know anything that wasn't public knowledge. JFK did sign the trade embargo with Cuba, but only after Pierre Sallinger had scored 1200 Cuban Petite Upmann cigars.
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