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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Robin Unger on Today at 02:32:30 AM »
Walthers / Haygood / Harkness.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Did LHO fire a shot that missed everything? If so, when did he fire it?
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 02:30:27 AM »
The Tague shot caused some problems for the WC. They seemed to treat the Tague shot as a LHO miss, not a ricochet. I gather the HSCA subscribed to this also.

There are witness accounts of a bullet strike on the asphalt behind the JFK limo, and of one near the Elm Street curb, near a manhole.

Like everyone says, witness accounts.....

The Tague shot seems to hold water, as the FBI tested the apparent bullet strike on the curb, and found lead.

Also Tague reported the strike contemporaneously.

If the Tague shot was a straight shot from LHO, it indicates one shot passed yards and yards over the top on the JFK  limo.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Education Forum Moderated by Anti-Semitic Crackpot---John Simkin is Aware
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 02:23:51 AM »
Some interesting recent commentary by a leading member of the (dis) Education Forum:

"LBJ ordered the USS Liberty set up in an isolated position so Moshe Dayan and the IDF could sink it so the crime could be blamed on Egypt so LBJ would have a pretext to militarily attack and remove Nasser from power. I don't think LBJ originally had plans to nuke Cairo, rather I think his extreme recklessness almost caused that result which would have ended up with the Russians nuking Israel as a response.

I don't think you know just how much in bed LBJ was with Zionist Jews in the USA and Israel. LBJ was their Superman Zionist supporter and Israel would never IN A MILLION YEARS INTENTIONALLY ATTACK AN AMERICAN SHIP unless they had BEEN ORDERED TO DO SO BY LYNDON JOHNSON PERSONALLY."

---30---

You may wonder what the 1967 USS Liberty ship disaster---a horrible friendly fire incident---has to do with the JFKA. Well, in truth, nothing.

But it is a topic of recurrent interest in the (dis)Education Forum, where the attack is understood by all to have been intentional by the Jewish state of Israel. Sometimes LBJ in involved. By one account, LBJ had four jets en route, loaded with a-bombs, to nuke-drop on Cairo, but the attack was called off when the incompetent Israelis didn't actually sink the USS Liberty.

Jeff Morley-men have been beating this drum too.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Today at 02:19:43 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 12:34:23 AM
Given the nature of the beast (Dealey Plaza created different echoes in different places; people were affected differently by the trauma and chaos they experienced), very few witnesses to the assassination got everything right.
No one said there were distinct echoes.  There were too many different surfaces reflecting sound so the rifle shots sound would have reverberated, probably for more than a second before the reflections died out.

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Donaldson at least got the position of the limo basically correct, and from where she was standing, she probably did hear two very close-together echoes.
The car was placed there by Holland.  In the film, she was not asked where she was standing.  We know she wasn’t standing anywhere near there.  So I am not sure how you conclude that she got the position of the car at the time of the first shot right..
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Robin Unger on Today at 02:14:57 AM »
Cancellare Crop showing Haygood standing on the overpass wall.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Education Forum: Clean Towel Service Zionists Waxed JFK!
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 02:06:09 AM »
Ask PJC to post his video series on the Zionist Clean Towel Service JFK assassins here in this forum, one by one.

PJC did so at the (dis)Education Forum, where William Neidernut, "moderator," pointed an approving boner. Neidernut is an anti-Semitic crackpot, so he ate this stuff up...and censored negative commentary.

Without Neidernut's censorship regime I wonder what reaction the PJC videos would get.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Robin Unger on Today at 02:05:10 AM »
Haygood seen in Bond at the underpass wall.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Robin Unger on Today at 01:59:41 AM »
Haygood standing on the overpass wall.



More motorcycle cops near the underpass.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Three evenly spaced shots, or "bang . . . . . . . . bang - bang"?
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 01:58:59 AM »
Most earwitnesses heard three shots.

This does not preclude near-simultaneous shots heard by most witnesses as one shot, or the use of a silencer, meaning there were more than three shots.

Most witnesses place the second and third shots as close together.

Secret Service man Kellerman, in the JFK limo, said the the last two shots came in a "flurry" and Gov JBC, before the WC and the HSCA, said the shots arrived in the cab of the limo as if from an "automatic" rifle.

I thought JBC had meant a "semi-automatic," when he testified by the WC, but he repeated his word "automatic" before the HSCA. So JBC says the shots were fired so rapidly he suspected an automatic rifle.

Kellerman, Weitzman and JBC were all knowledgable about weapons and gunfire.




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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 01:11:47 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 06:35:42 PM
I have consistently said that the Wiegman shows no car parked alongside the Island. If you believe the Wiegman Film shows a car parked there, show it to me, or direct me where I need to go in order to actually see that 17.5 Feet Long and almost 5 Feet Tall car. The only people claiming to see a car alongside the Island on the Wiegman Film are: (1) you, and my good friend, (2) "The Nutty Professor". And "The Professor" only sees this car via his recently invented, "Shadow DNA". The absence of a car parked alongside the Island on the Wiegman Film, coupled with a car suddenly appearing there roughly 20 seconds later on the Darnell and Couch Films, is a Major JFK Assassination Discovery. I have currently been working on ID'ing the registered owner of what I believe was an intended "getaway" car. I have recently made an additional discovery that I believe will lead to achieving this goal. I will soon be submitting my discovery to other JFK Assassination Researchers that hold opinions of value.

Dear Royell,

Why do you refuse to answer my question?

Here it is, again, for you:

What kind of strange-looking car are we seeing in Wiegman to the immediate left of "Fedora Man On The Island" and parked on the other side of Elm Street Extension if not a normal, light-colored car that is parked on the other side of Elm Street Extension but is being partially overlapped, visually speaking, by your 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "getaway car" parked next to the "island"?

-- Tom
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