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If you want to be taken seriously you need to show why it would be impossible. Not at z223 when  you suggest the first shot occurred but between z190-z200 when the evidence indicates it occurred. (I suggest z193). I agree a shot at z223 would not miss JBC's back. 

You could do that by specifying the angle of the trajectory not at z223 but at z193, the distance between the two men and their positions.

I have done all that by creating a 3D software model based on an accurate map of Dealey Plaza, an accurate car model and location of the car at z193 and the position of the two men in the car. This is where I found the bullet to go after passing through JFK:


It looks obvious to me that at z225 JFK's right side is not pressed against the car and he is not leaning to the right as he was in z193.

Your 3D representation is as FUBAR as your theory. JBC never turned his shoulders anywhere near that far to the right as your silly drawing shows until after he had been hit. All you have demonstrated is how much you need to bend and twist the evidence to make it conform to your impossible theory. It's a joke.
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Apologies for any issues.
Will make sure it's done like this from now on.

   DAN - Thanks for the lengthy in-depth work you are putting in on this project. I look forward to delving into the nuts-n-bolts when said project is completed.
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Here is Hargis on the brain/blood matter/material:

Question: You were sprayed with matter, and you were behind the limousine, and yet you say you initially ran to the Book Depository because of the suggestion of the direction of the shot.
Hargis: Right.
Question: But the actual - the fact that you were behind the car suggests that the shot in fact came from the front and right of the car.
Hargis: Well, that right there is what I've wondered about all along, but see there's ah -- you've got to take into consideration we were moving at the time, and when he got hit all that stuff went like this, and of course I run through it.

And

Question: Left shoulder. Could you see what part of his head got hit?
Hargis: No I couldn't see what part of it got hit.
Oser: Would you say that he was hit in the rear of the head, the side of the head, or the front of his head?
Hargis: If he'd got hit in the rear, I'd of been able to see it. All I saw was just a splash come out on the other side.

So he says he "run through" the blood/brain matter and that he didn't see a "hit" in the back of JFK's head but a "splash" on the side. If it blew out the back of JFK's head I would think he would have seen that? And he wouldn't have "run through" the matter; it would have blown into his windshield/face?

He's not a good witness for a rear exit wound. Could he have been wrong? Of course. That's why they had an autopsy.

Link/source: https://www.jfk-assassination.net/hargis.htm

And James Chaney, the motorcycle officer right next to JFK (below right), said all of the shots came from behind him, from the rear.

"Chaney said he was positive that all the noises he heard were coming from behind his motorcycle and none of these noises came from the side or the front of the position in which Chaney was located. Chaney said the noises were fairly evenly spaced."

https://www.maryferrell.org/xdoc/9965#relPageId=12&search=Chaney



   Non of the above is sworn testimony. It carries No Weight what-so-ever. Mary Farrell, Mary Todd Lincoln, Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary. Doesn't matter unless the quoted source is looking at Perjury for whatever he/she is saying. This includes Fauci.
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Dear Storm Trooper Storing,

The place is crawling with tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorists, especially of the Harvey and Lee and Henry and Harry and the four Marguerites ilk, and the Jim Garrison fan club ilk -- you'd fit right in!

-- Tom

   Anytime, You or anybody else wants to proffer Proof that Bogus DPD Cop roaming across the train yard on the Darnell Film is Officer Haygood, I am all ears. Haygood's WC Testimony did Not mention anything close to the extended hike this guy undertook inside the train yard. And besides, WHY would Haygood go all the way back to that string of passenger train cars? Haygood testified that he "Talked" to what he "presumed" to be a railroad detective and went STRAIGHT BACK to his motorcycle parked at the Elm St curb. We NEVER see that Bogus DPD Cop "Talk" to Anybody. In fact, this Impostor does All he can to Avoid Everybody. This even includes his avoiding fellow DPD Officer Harkness as this guy heads toward the TSBD. 
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Here's the historian Robert Dallek on the plots and how much JFK knew about them. Dallek is a mainstream liberal historian and his book on JFK is, let's say, not exactly hard hitting.

From "An Unfinished Life: John F. Kennedy 1917-1963":

"No secrets on foreign policy existed between them [RFK and JFK]. Assassination was undoubtedly a topic of discussion and something the emotional, messianic Bobby may have seen as a necessary evil. But his more dispassionate brother seems to have resisted the suggestion, not necessarily as immoral, but as impractical and counterproductive. Kennedy realized that Castro’s death seemed likely to strengthen rather than eliminate communist control in Cuba, where the leader’s brother Raul and Che Guevara could convert his death into an emotional plea vindicating his life and beliefs. Poor planning at the Bay of Pigs had ended in disaster. By contrast, careful, modulated responses to Khrushchev’s pressure over Germany and Berlin had produced at least a temporary stand-down. The two episodes had strengthened Kennedy’s instinctual caution about any response to international dangers that could lead to war. Although the CIA continued to see assassination as a possible response to pressure to remove Castro, there is no evidence that the White House, perhaps after briefly entertaining it, saw it as anything more than a bad idea."

I think that's deeply misleading - "perhaps briefly entertaining it" and "no evidence" for it? Perhaps? No evidence at all?

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Oh, I feel sorry for you having to live 10 minutes from him. Have you ever met him? I have. VERY unscrupulous human being--if he can even be called that. His name should be listed next to the word loathsome within the dictionary.  I have a feeling that on Judgment day, he will argue with the LORD when God says "Depart from me..."

I do so miss mssr. marsh……….. sigh.  him and I used to wheelchair the divine ms. Sarah MacClendon around d.c., he to the jfk liars’ convention, i to the White House, where I would pass notes to Mike McClurry at the end of press conferences from her, like some grade-school kid !
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Another of your so-and-so said arguments and this one isn't even accurate. Ladybird said in here official statement to the WC:

"Then almost at the edge of town, on our way to the Trade Mart where we were going to have the luncheon, we were rounding a curve, going down a hill, and suddenly there was a sharp loud report--a shot. "

Notice she said they "were rounding a curve", not that they "had rounded the curve" which is a significant difference. The Z-film shows the VP car just beginning its turn onto Elm St. when Zapruder resumed filming. If Ladybird is correct, the first shot would have been fired in close proximity to that timeframe. Tom Graves believes it was fired a half-second earlier. I believe it was fired less than one second later. It doesn't matter which of us is correct. Either way it was fired well before your early Z190s estimate which would be over 3 seconds after Zapruder resumed filming.
I think most people would consider turning a corner as such and not "rounding a curve". That is especially so when there is actually a distinct round curve after the corner and it is on a downhill slope, whereas the corner appears to be level and the slope starts after the turn.  This can be confirmed from the Towner film and, to some extent, in the Hughes film. 

Besides, even if it is ambiguous, her evidence should be looked at in the context of what others observed. For example, Hurchel Jacks driver of the VP car said "My car had just straightened up from making the left turn".  SA Kivett riding in the VP security car said "The motorcade was heading slightly downhill toward an underpass. As the motorcade was approximately 1/3 of the way to the underpass, traveling between 10 and 15 miles per hour, I heard a loud noise".
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You are entering false information there because Jarman was very clear that Lovelady had told him he saw Oswald exit through the front door and get stopped by a cop and ordered back in to the Lobby...Jarman was quite clear that Lovelady told him he had witnessed this...Lovelady seeing this makes sense because films of the front steps after the assassination show Lovelady standing out there...What Lovelady saw was what Holmes heard and related...Lovelady saw Harvey being spooked out the front door by Lee who had stumbled in to the other end of the Lobby down the SE stairs...

What you are conspicuously avoiding answering is the fact that Lovelady lied and told Jarman that he then saw Oswald exit through the front doors anyway and leave the Depository...The reason the authorities covered this up in 1963 and at the HSCA is because they knew they could not answer why Oswald would be allowed to walk right out anyway right under the nose of a cop who detained him and told him to step aside and wait...The 1963 investigation wanted to avoid exposing Shelley's assisting Oswald around police detention and out the Loading Dock...The HSCA wanted to avoid Lovelady trying to plant a false story with Jarman in order to cover up Shelley's intervention...

Frazier's CSPAN admission that he saw Oswald exit the Loading Dock and walk down Houston St was deliberately avoided by Gary Mack, the media, and the authorities...Like with Lovelady, there was no inquiry why Frazier waited 40 years to reveal that...His admission that there was a partly-eaten cheese sandwich and apple on the 2nd Floor Lunch Room table after the assassination was deleted from the radio station archive he said that on and was also unaccountably not pursued in this false nation of America...I see you ignored it too...   

The cop who stopped Harvey was not outside the Depository...He was inside guarding the front door...He wasn't named because FBI and the Commission did not want any of the above to come out...

"Jarman was very clear that Lovelady had told him he saw Oswald exit through the front door and get stopped by a cop".  That's it in a nutshell. Jarman was speaking about something he heard, not something he saw. That is the very definition of hearsay. And where is the record of Lovelady saying he saw a cop stop Oswald? Nowhere. There is no record of that.

Everything else apparently came from the voices in your head. That too is hearsay.
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troll

Says the guy who can't answer a simple question if it saved his life..... Hilarious!
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And this is how a fanatical zealot desperately tries to avoid answering the actual question about the wallet brought in by Bentley being in Westbrook's office while at the same time Guy Rose was given a wallet, containing the Hidell ID, just before he became the first officer to talk to Oswald after his arrival at the police station.

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