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Or, maybe you're hallucinating, again.
How can accepting what 80+ witnesses recalled be a hallucination?
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   The Zapruder Film is the ONLY Film capturing the JFK Limo from the (N) side of Elm St. No other film comes close to having the perspective of the Zapruder Film. It's pointless listing all these other assassination films with respect to the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St. 
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Or he was correct because the 80+ witnesses whose evidence is inconsistent with a missed shot were not hallucinating and the first shot struck JFK in the neck.

By "their evidence," I guess you mean their flawed memories of what had traumatically happened in front of them in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza.

If so, I guess you're hallucinating, again.
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MY comment:

Connally was correct in saying that he felt the blow to his back “after I heard the first rifle shot,” because said missing-everything rifle shot had been fired about five seconds earlier at “Z-124,” i.e., at hypothetical Z-124, half-a second before Zapruder resumed filming (after a 17-second pause) at Z-133.
Or he was correct because the 80+ witnesses whose evidence is inconsistent with a missed shot were not hallucinating and the first shot struck JFK in the neck.
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TG-

"Not if Solie did the arranging with the OML and the RID, himself."---TG

Yes, but Bruce Solie had to talk to someone in OML and RID to arrange this, or possibly send a memo.

Whoever was that CIA employee in OML-RID, they would have known that well before the JFKA, that Bruce Solie had manipulating information flows, paper traffic regarding LHO.

Was it the job of people in the OML and RID to speculate on why they'd been requested to do something by a person in authority, and to wonder whether or not that person might have had a sinister motive in doing so?
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Not only was it not a sharp searing pain, Connally said there was no pain at all. Impact is not pain.

Senator Cooper. I wanted to ask you if you were very conscious of the fact -- you were conscious of a shot behind you, you were not aware of any shot from the embankment or overpass. The answer is what?

Governor Connolly. I am not aware of any shots from the overpass, Senator. I might repeat my testimony with emphasis to this extent, that I have all my life been familiar with the sound of a rifle shot, and the sound I heard I thought was a rifle shot, at the time I heard it I didn't think it was a firecracker, or blow out or anything else. I thought it was a rifle shot. I have hunted enough to think that my perception with regard to directions is very, very good, and this shot I heard came from back over my right shoulder, which was in the direction of the School Book Depository, no question about it. I heard no other. The first and third shots came from there. I heard no other sounds that would indicate to me there was any commotion or disturbance of shots or anything else on the overpass.

Senator Cooper. Would you describe again the nature of the shock that you had when you felt that you had been hit by a bullet?

Governor Connolly. Senator, the best way I can describe it is to say that I would say it is as if someone doubled his fist and came up behind you and just with about a 12-inch blow hit you right in the back right below the shoulder blade.

Senator Cooper. That is when you heard the first rifle shot?

Governor Connally. This was after I heard the first rifle shot. There was no pain connected with it. There was no particular burning sensation. There was nothing more than that. I think you would find I think you would feel almost the identical sensation I felt that someone came up behind you and just, with a short jab, hit you with a doubled-up fist just below the shoulder blade.

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MY comment:

Connally was correct in saying that he felt the blow to his back “after I heard the first rifle shot,” because said missing-everything rifle shot had been fired about five seconds earlier at “Z-124” (i.e., at hypothetical Z-124), half-a second before Zapruder resumed filming (after a 17-second pause) at Z-133.

Connally didn't "hear" Oswald's second shot at approximately Z-222 because that's the one that hit him in the back ("feeling like a 12-inch jab") after travelling through JFK's upper back / lower neck.
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https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2862.0.html

Here is in effect Towner frame T138, which is missing in Robin Unger's gallery. He shows T137 T139 T141 T142.
T138 & T140 are missing. And T143 never happened -- the last frame was T142 (i think).
So, here below is in effect frame T138, a printscreen from i think the Museum's online Tina footage.
Oswald's shot-1 was at Z112, say T137.
Slug hit signal arm (& fragments hit JFK) at Z113, say T138.

We know that Z113 was at T138 koz Nellie Connally is level with the end of the white painted road stripe, in the re-enactment footage, & in Tina's footage.

Sound hit Tina at Z114, say T139.
Tina hears bang at say T141.
Tina possibly had a non-voluntary startle reaction to the bang at say T143 (except that she stopped filming at T142).
Tina possibly had a voluntary fright reaction to the bang at say T145.






Here below are some more printscreens.



















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LOL!

Do you think JFK or Jackie punched JBC in the back right when he heard a shot, as if to say, "How you doin', old boy?"
???. Did you press “Post” accidentally??
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Not only was it not a sharp searing pain, he said there was no pain at all. Impact is not pain. Connally said he felt no pain until he reached Parkland. You really should read his testimony (4 H 145)

When he arrived at Parkland he tried get up and then experienced pain.  It was excruciating pain and he collapsed.

That is why it is good to actually read the sources and not just rely on AI.

Nellie said he recoiled (4 H 147):

One might expect to see sudden fairly uniform movement of the body from such an impact - movement that is not associated with any muscle movement.

Where does that occur?

LOL!

Do you think JFK or Jackie punched JBC in the back right when he heard a shot, as if to say, "How you doin', old boy?"
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Dear Robin,

I guess you didn't notice that I'd put "scare quotes" around the number 124.

My writing "Z-124" in quotation marks signifies where the limo would have been in Zapruder if he hadn't paused filming for 17 seconds between Z-132 and Z-133.

If you think it will help you to understand, in the future I'll write "hypothetical Z-124" instead of "'Z-124'".

-- Tom


OK Tom.

Thanks for the Clarification.

So you were talking "hypothetically"
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