JFK Assassination Forum

The digitally enhanced Robert Hughes clip appears to show a person wearing a white ("tee"?) shirt standing and moving around in the Sniper's Nest window as the limo is turning onto Elm Street.

If Oswald was standing/crouching during his first, sharply-downward-angled shot, the muzzle of his short-rifle was probably just inside the building, making that shot sound somewhat muffled compared to his next two shots when the muzzle was outside the building.

That is a possibility although it was loud enough for JBC to recognize it as a rifle shot. For reasons we can only guess at, some people didn't seem to hear it or they didn't recognize it for what it was. I think the roar of the motorcycles accelerating out of the turn onto Elm might have played a part as well.

Your FUBAR attempt at playing forensic pathologist isn't a problem for anybody. We can just ignore you or poke fun at your efforts. Our choice.

This is a clownish, discrediting, and revealing dodge.

No one denies that the autopsy report says there was a fragment trail that ran upward from the EOP to the right eyebrow. No one denies that the autopsy report says nothing about a fragment trail near the top of the head, 15 cm (5.9 inches) above the EOP. No one denies that the autopsy doctors said the entry wound was near the middle of the occipital bone but that the cowlick entry site is in the parietal bone, 1 cm above the lambda. And no one denies that the extant autopsy skull x-rays show no fragment trail from the EOP to the right eyebrow. No one. As in no one.

So how do you explain these facts? Answer: You duck them with another frivolous dodge.

As any honest observer can see, I am actually not "playing forensic pathologist" at all. I am simply pointing out what numerous experts on both sides have discussed on this key issue. If you would ever bother to read the transcripts of Finck, Boswell, and Humes's exchanges with the FPP during their HSCA testimony, you would see that the absence of a fragment trail and wound pattern from the EOP to the right eye was a major, intense point of disagreement and controversy, a dispute that became so severe that at one point Finck actually questioned how the skull x-rays had been authenticated.

I notice you said nothing about Dr. Chesser's comments on the problems that the high fragment trail and the autopsy report's entry site location pose for the lone-gunman theory. FYI, Dr. Chesser is a board-certified neurologist who has not only examined the autopsy materials at the National Archives but has also examined JFK's pre-mortem x-rays at the Kennedy Library in Boston.

The bullet exiting his chest at Z270 per your sketch , how could it not have gone thru his hat held in his right hand if there was an exit wound at the base of the palm?

The brim of the hat is gripped by his fingers.  Whatever may have exited on the volar side of the forearm/wrist
located 2 cm above the wrist crease was some distance from the hat brim.

Could you draw another sketch with how you think he’s holding the hat with the right hand?

This is how he held his hat:

If the official wrist wound description is correct that the entrance found was top of hand at the wrist and the exit was at the base of the palm then…

The hat had to be held in the right hand upside down so that the upper side of the right hand is hit first and the exit at the base of the palm follows.

The entrance wound was 5 cm or 2 inches above the wrist crease on the back of the forearm. The hole in the french cuff was an inch above the end of the cuff:



The exit wound on the volar side was 2 cm or .8 of an inch above the wrist crease and was a small transverse slit ie. in the same direction as the crease. 

There was a slit in the shirt sleeve just  above the french cuff:


but it was not a transverse slit and its position does not correspond to the slit in the skin on the volar side of the wrist. 

That is a bit odd if the slit in the shirt was caused by something exiting the wrist. If the entrance on the back was an inch above the end of the cuff and the slit in the skin was 1.2 inches lower toward the end of the cuff, whatever caused that transverse slit on the volar side should have missed the end of the cuff by .2 inches or .5 cm.

So in your sketch for the angle of the shot at  Z270, it looks like a hat in the right hand held upside down between both legs would have a bullet ( or fragment ) exiting the palm  go thru the well of the hat.

You should not make any assumptions about the object that caused the skin break on the volar side. It could have been a bullet fragment or a bone fragment. There were 5 bone fragments found in the wrist.  I am not sure it wasn’t possible that a sharp edge of a bone fragment in the wrist penetrated the skin during the 5 minute trip to Parkland as JBC rolled around in the car.  The slit in the shirt had to have been caused by something other than an exiting object because it is over 2 inches from the slit in the skin and it is at a right angle to it.

If one draws a line from the exit point on the wrist it looks to me that if something did exit the wrist it would have missed the hat brim and well of the hat.

So only the later shots were heard? For some reason.

Some heard the first shot. Some didn't. Some heard it but didn't recognize it as a gunshot. This divergence of opinion illustrates just how unreliable eye and ear witnesses can be. If they were reliable, we wouldn't have these disparities.

You are ignoring the angle.  If he just missed JFK he would have hit the side of the car.  Here is what it looked like in the Secret Service reenactment as the car passed under the traffic light from the perspective of the SN:


So a miss of the car is actually a significant miss of about half a car width.

Pardon me Andrew, this is for Tom Bombadillo Graves Z124 fantasy shot:

SEE THE ABOVE  😁😂