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Almost certainly CIA historian McDonald, in a study commissioned by the CIA, personally reviewed materials that led to his conclusion that Shaw was a "highly paid contract source."

McDonald was not a rude-monkey internet know-it-all, posting inline in JFKA forums, not can I detect an ideological or partisan bias in his writings.

I would lay odds 10-to-1 that Shaw was accurately defined by McDonald. Probably higher, but JFKA research sometimes has some surprises.

FL can only say he has not seen the documents that verify McDonald's statement regarding Shaw, and that in the entire McDonald report, there were some lesser errors.

To which you add insubstantial disparaging comments about McDonald.

Well, caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

I conclude McDonald called a spade a spade.
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Not right-wing. Not even Jewish. But a Zionist as defined by some.
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Fedora Man was not standing in the street.

Who said that he was?

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And the "getaway" car is 17+ feet long and 5 feet high. If it was there, it would stand out like nobody's business.

The people are blocking our view of it.
 
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You can see the surface street behind Fedora Man.

No, you can't.

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There is nothing behind him.

Your 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Getaway Car" is behind him, but we can only see a small part of it to the left of his crossed arm.

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And the surface street we are seeing behind Fedora Man is identical to the surface street we see behind the ladies standing in the street to the (R) of the Island.

Huh?
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  We are seeing what a big part the illegal aliens played in the Calif economy. Trump got them out of there and Calif then circles the drain. At least $18 BILLION shortfall. This is why they will do whatever is needed to get a Dem President elected. They need $$ pumped into these failing Blue States.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Jarrett Smith on Yesterday at 05:20:13 AM »
   This is exactly why the Dem's shut the govt down. Slow the economy and the numbers that make that plain. And then there's the Billions In Theft in blue states.  too. Minn and Calif are absolute cesspools.

Democrats big plan was to flood the country with illegal's and give them voting rights. Trump has stopped that and we see the results. Democrats have lost the white vote, a larger percentage of the black vote, and the Latino vote. They can no longer win a national election.

Comrade Graves, I hate to break your heart, but groceries have come down in price where I live. Eggs are $.99 Dz, butter 3.49#, orange juice $2.99, chuck roast $5.99#, and 80% ground beef was $3.49# last week I stocked up.
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  Fedora Man was NOT standing in the street. And the "getaway" car is 17+ feet long and 5 feet high. If it was there, it would stand out like nobody's business.
  You can see the surface street behind Fedora Man. There is nothing behind him. And the surface street we are seeing behind Fedora Man is identical to the surface street we see behind the ladies to the (R) of the Island.
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Groceries in my neck of the woods have really dropped since Trump took office. Gas, heating fuel, everything lower.

   This is exactly why the Dem's shut the govt down. Slow the economy and the numbers that make that plain. And then there's the Billions In Theft in blue states.  too. Minn and Calif are absolute cesspools.   
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It is hard to believe...the EF is being run by an anti-Semitic left-wing crackpot---and martinet to boot.

And so the JFKA research community sinks into the mire (but self-righteously!).

Are you a right-wing Zionist by any chance?
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Of course there is such a thing as a CIA "contract source." It is the same as a "contract agent."

LOL!

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McDonald was free to use nomenclature as he saw fit and did not have to subscribe to certain specific bureaucratic definitions.


Yes! And if he'd wanted to, J. Kenneth could have called his cobbled-together report the product of a "hysterical review" and everyone would have known exactly what he meant!

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As it stands, do you verify you never looked through the 64 physical boxes of HSCA materials that McDonald and his staff did?

Are you saying that J. Kenneth and at least one member of his staff read every document in the 64 boxes, or that various and sundry staff members collectively read all of them and kinda told him what they were about?

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BTW, McDonald and his staff looked at other materials in addition to the 64 boxes.

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BFD.

Pardon my German.

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Have you also reviewed all the records that McDonald reviewed at CIA headquarters and the Warrenton Records Center? Are you confident those records, [sic; why put a comma here?] in the CIA HQ and the Warrenton Records Center [sic; given that you put a comma earlier in the sentence, why didn't you put one here?] are also online? Are [sic] you saw each one in your online searches?

Don't feel bad, "BC."

To err is human.

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I gather you are shooting in the dark.

You are doing the CT-thing...leaping to conclusions with partial information, following your biases.

Well, it is JFKA research, so have had it. A rather low bar to participate.

Why are you putting the burden of trying to "prove a negative" on my widdle buddy, Freddy, "BC"?

It seems to me that the burden's on you to prove "the positive," i.e., that the CIA used (and maybe still uses!) the expression "contract source" to mean "contract agent."

Ball's in your court, "BC."


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Thanks to Tom for identification of the “Getaway Car” as a 1958 Pontiac Bonneville sedan. For my 3D model I was able to make texture maps of that model. Texture maps are 2D and can be placed in my 3D model but not as solid objects. I pasted the sides, front and rear texture maps to form a perimeter of the car. See the elevated view attachment.

My goal was to model this into a simulated Wiegman frame overlay with an actual Wiegman frame. I spent one or two days trying to fit the model to a Death in Dealey Plaza (DiDP) frame without success. I finally remembered that DiDP frames were asymmetrically cropped, and aspect ratio compromised. I used a NFV video frame for the full frame that worked pretty good with the model.  The second attachment summarizes that overlay, with varying amount of transparency.   

These renderings are updates to previous versions.

James




James,

I may be wrong, but I think Royell's "Getaway Car" is too far to the left in your lower montage.

I say this for two reasons:

1) In Wiegman, the "rocket ship exhaust" design on the side of the car by "Fedora Man's" crossed arm looks wide and therefore nearer the end of the car, and

2) We can see the somewhat rounded end of the "Getaway Car" where it is darker colored than the light-colored car across Elm Street Extension and with which it visually merges to a certain degree.

Regardless, keep up the good work!

-- Tom
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