JFK Assassination Forum

If he bort the coke earlyer in the day then he must hav grabbed it after he dumped the Carcano & then carried it downstairs.
In which case he would hav had the coke in hiz hand (or in hiz pocket) when Baker saw him.
In hiz pocket duznt work. Koz if the coke was meant to be a semi-alibi then he would hav had it in hiz hand & he would hav been waving the coke all around for anyone to see that he was not the shooter koz the shooter would not be interested in a bottle of coke.
No, earlyer in the day duznt work.

Have you tried Google Translate yet?

1) Connally eventually admitted that the first shot may have missed everything and that he and JFK may have been hit by the second shot.

JFKA conspiracy theorist John Simkin, himself, posted the following at the so-called JFK Assassination Debate -- Education Forum:

On 26th June 1967, John and Nellie Connally gave an interview to Walter Cronkite and Eddie Barker on CBS Television:

Walter Cronkite: The most persuasive critic of the single-bullet theory is the man who might be expected to know best, the victim himself, Texas Governor John Connally. Although he accepts the Warren Report's conclusion that Oswald did all the shooting, he has never believed that the first bullet could have hit both the President and himself.

John Connally: The only way that I could ever reconcile my memory of what happened and what occurred, with respect to the one bullet theory, is that it had to be the second bullet that might have hit us both.

Eddie Barker: Do you believe, Governor Connally, that the first bullet could have missed, the second one hit both of you, and the third one hit President Kennedy?

John Connally: That's possible. That's possible.


2) The Zapruder films shows both the jacket bulge and the lapel flip.

Thanx for that.
Re the bulge.... i think that there iz a hint of a possible bulge at Z222. Its hard to say, koz of the blackish blurry featureless jacket.

Ben Cole was notorious on the Education Forum for insisting that Donald Trump's January 6th mob attack on Congress was, in reality, a Deep State plot against Donald Trump.

Dear Dr. Bill,

If true, then Ben's just as wrong as you and the other "useful idiots" at the so-called JFK Assassination Debate - Education Forum who preach that a different kind "Deep State" (the evil, evil "Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex") killed JFK.

-- Tom

PS "Useful idiots" -- it's an old KGB expression.

Getting back to Brehm, he said shot one hit JFK in neck, shot two hit him in head, and shot three was fired after the head shot. So that leaves the shot Connally heard before Z-224.

He was mistaken.

        Ben Cole was notorious on the Education Forum for insisting that Donald Trump's January 6th mob attack
        on Congress was, in reality, a Deep State plot against Donald Trump.  So much for Ben's acumen.

        And Ben never studied, or understood, the scientific data about 9/11, or the 21st century history of PNAC.

        Ben is not a scientist.

        Here is one, simple question for Ben Cole, Bill Brown, Mytton, Graves, et.al. here.

        Answer the question, please.
 
         What liquefied the steel that was "flowing like a foundry" at Ground Zero?

         The molten steel cascades are visible on film, and were documented by NYFD firefighters.
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And Ben never studied, or understood, the scientific data about 9/11....

And what scientific understanding have you demonstrated, besides (some unknown unproven "molten steel=bad")? You're clearly bluffing your way through this and let's be honest, you couldn't "science" your way out of a wet paper bag!

The molten steel cascades are visible on film

This old chestnut, there is burning debris seen cascading from WTC7 close to ten minutes before the collapse, this debris could be anything and being so long before the actual collapse adds much more credibility that this burning debris was totally unrelated to any pre-planted explosives.





And wisely you still haven't told us what you believe caused your "molten steel" because if it is indeed "thermite" then that opens a whole can of worms. Previously you have claimed that the visible high velocity expulsions that we see as the building collapses is a common sight seen in "controlled demolitions" which you imply can only be caused by explosives, or perhaps you simply don't understand that the collapsing floors violently caused the remaining air to be forced from the building!
But anyway it's obvious that you are just throwing crap at a wall and hoping something sticks, was it quickly detonating high explosives or relatively slow burning "thermite" which doesn't explode with anywhere near the intensity of explosives but merely melts through various metals.

Explosions or merely escaping air!



And inquiring minds would like to know how do you apply "thermite" to vertical beams, because after the reaction starts the remaining reactants are controlled by gravity??

"Thermite" is only practical being applied to a horizontal steel surface and I don't believe that "thermite" has ever been used in a controlled demolition, because precise pinpoint explosions are required and not the unpredictable timing of "thermite"

What liquefied the steel that was "flowing like a foundry" at Ground Zero?

         The molten steel cascades are visible on film, and were documented by NYFD firefighters.

I would sure like to see some photographic evidence of steel "flowing like a foundry" at Ground Zero or the resulting pools of molten steel or even the cooled off slabs of melted steel? Exactly what was this documentation, are we to rely on non specialist witnesses who didn't chemically analyse this "steel" or even photograph this other worldly phenomenon?
Where was this molten material flowing, from where to where, was new molten material being produced supposedly weeks or even months after the brief "thermite" reactions on 9/11

After an extensive search, there isn't much visual evidence, the following images seem to be the only "proof" of molten steel but did they even come from Ground Zero and how do you pick up molten steel with a grappler? And as seen above in the telegraph post fire there is many possibilities before assuming "molten steel"





Embers from hot debris can look a lot like the unanalysed substances seen at Ground Zero.



And finally, as I previously stated, there was NO need to demolish the buildings, the planes 
attacking and crashing into the two most symbolic buildings of wealth and power in America was objective completed, and these building on fire and smoking for weeks after would have been much more visually terrifying than a pile of rubble. The risk of being caught planting and detonating tonnes of explosives was incredibly high and added zero extra value, demolishing the massively damaged buildings in which thousands of people lost their lives would have no pushback.
It's like the JFK assassination, CT's with too much time on their hands invent ridiculous scenarios to further their insane accusations and the prime example is why would conspirators risk everything by having a frontal shooter when your "lone" patsy was high and behind? Ridiculous!





JohnM