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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 02:03:24 PM »
I was stunned to hear there was another assassination attempt on President Trump last night at the White House Correspondent's Dinner. My normal routne on Sunday morning is to watch ESPN's Sport Center while drinking my coffee and eating my breakfast sandwich. I just now heard about this attack.

Unfortunately, the assassin was taken alive. He deserved to be Crooksed. Hopefully, he will be locked up in a cage for the rest of his life. The last person who attempted to assassinate a POTUS in the nation's capitol was acquitted by a Washington D..C. jury. It would not surprise me if the same thing happened again.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Did LHO fire a shot that missed everything? If so, when did he fire it?
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 01:45:23 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 03:01:24 AM
If you'll go back and read my earlier posts, you'll see that I'm not talking about their "startle responses."

I'm talking about their intentional head turns about a second after their "startle responses."

Which "startle responses," if the first shot did occur half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 (and pretty darn far from his camera), probably wouldn't be discernable by us, anyway.


Regarding said intentional head turns:

1) JFK starts a quick look to the left at Z-142

2) Jackie starts accelerated head turning left at Z-142

3) Connally begins a quick head turn left at Z-149, followed by quickly looking back right.

4) Nellie begins a quick sweeping head turn to the right at Z-144

5) Kellerman begins leaning over and looking behind/down to the right at Z-148


Your whole premise is based on the assumption that these head movements were all cause by the same stimulus and that stimulus was Oswald's first shot. That doesn't seem very compelling proof to me of a shot at virtual Z124. I'd also like to know how you pinpointed it at the instant. I've explained how I have arrived at my conclusion the first shot was fired at Z148. Maybe you have explained it before but I'm not going to search the archives to find it. It would be a needle in the haystack for me to do it. Please give us the Reader's Digest version of how you reached your conclusion as to the specific time of the first shot.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Zapruder's jiggles -- did Sitzman have a bad case of hiccups?
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 01:37:22 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 03:46:19 AM
Did Marilyn Sitzman have a case of the hiccups?

Given the fact that Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot was at hypothetical Z-124 (half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming -- after a 17-second pause -- at Z-133), how are we to explain Zapruder's camera's jiggling all over the place other than the possibility that the gal who was holding onto vertigo-plagued Zapruder, Marilyn Sitzman, had a real bad case of the hiccups?

If so, were they so loud that they caused some witnesses to believe that the shots were coming from the bushes?

It is not a given fact that the first shot was fired at virtual Z124. That is your conclusion and you are entitled to it just as I am entitled to my belief the shot was fired at actual Z148. Neither of us has proof positive of what we believe but I'm sure I feel as strongly about my scenario as you do of yours. We both can't be right but it's possible we could both be wrong.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: "Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 01:34:18 PM »
I wish I could remember the name of the man on the right in the first photo, but he had an interesting history. He was a ranger with the National Park Service in working at the Pearl Harbor Memorial in Hawaii when the History Channel did a story on the attack. He was used extensively during that program to tell the story. Apparently, the History Channel was impressed enough by him that they hired him for a number of other programs including Death in Dealey Plaza. I don't know if he retired from his job to do that or just took some time off. He was an excellent storyteller.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Zapruder's jiggles -- did Sitzman have a bad case of hiccups?
« Last post by Duncan MacRae on Today at 12:48:48 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 03:46:19 AM
Did Marilyn Sitzman have a case of the hiccups?

Given the fact that Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot was at hypothetical Z-124 (half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming -- after a 17-second pause -- at Z-133), how are we to explain Zapruder's camera's jiggling all over the place other than the possibility that the gal who was holding onto vertigo-plagued Zapruder, Marilyn Sitzman, had a real bad case of the hiccups?

If so, were they so loud that they caused some witnesses to believe that the shots were coming from the bushes?

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Robin Unger on Today at 11:45:36 AM »
Haygood is still wearing his gloves in this frame.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: "Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames
« Last post by Robin Unger on Today at 11:31:44 AM »
Hughes Frames:



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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: "Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames
« Last post by Robin Unger on Today at 11:05:57 AM »
Lovelady standing in front of the TSBD

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: "Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames
« Last post by Robin Unger on Today at 10:12:37 AM »
Wiegman running after the Camera car.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / "Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames
« Last post by Robin Unger on Today at 09:35:05 AM »
"Death in Dealy Plaza" Gifs and frames

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