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  Tina Towner - "Now I was beginning to leave when I heard the sky fall in - the LOUDEST crack of a rifle I HAD EVER HEARD".
                       
                       All of you are assuming Towner heard the Carcano Rifle being fired. Maybe she was hearing the sound of a Different gun/rifle being fired?
Others provide evidence of location of the rifle in the sixth floor SN. Dearie Cabell, upon hearing the first shot, looked straight up from where she was facing as her car (next behind the VP security car) entered the intersection and saw a pipe extending out of the sixth floor window. Three men on the floor below also identified the source as a rifle on the floor above them.

So unless you have evidence of a second rifle on the sixth floor other than the one found there, she heard Oswald’s MC.



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Funny coming from someone with 344 posts on this board.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Royell Storing on December 20, 2025, 06:58:32 PM »


It’s not a hoodie. It’s a scarf; a similar color to her jacket but not a part of the jacket like a hoodie. She is in Brennan’s shadow which makes a difference in the appearance due to reflected sunlight versus lack of reflected sunlight. I think that only the very top of the scarf is in direct sunlight in that Dorman frame. If you watch the Zapruder film, you might see a similar effect as she moves in and out of various shadows. It makes it quite difficult to say which way her head is facing at certain times.

   Thanks for the scarf info. I see on the Bronson footage that the scarf covering her head is a different color than the jacket.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Charles Collins on December 20, 2025, 06:38:36 PM »
   Thanks for posting that Dorman still frame. On the Zapruder Film, the Willis Girl is wearing the top of her hoody over her head. I do not see her wearing that hood over her head on this Dorman still frame. The hood is bright white like the entire jacket is. If she is wearing that White Hood over her head on this Dorman still frame, it's bright color should match the rest of the jacket that we see. I do not see any of the white hood over the top of her head on this Dorman still frame. I also believe I am seeing her hair instead of that white top. What do you see when comparing the Willis Girl on this still frame to the Willis Girl we see on the Zapruder Film? She could have put the hood on while running, but that would be very unusual all by itself. Not to mention that the weather was extremely good at that point in time.



It’s not a hoodie. It’s a scarf; a similar color to her jacket but not a part of the jacket like a hoodie. She is in Brennan’s shadow which makes a difference in the appearance due to reflected sunlight versus lack of reflected sunlight. I think that only the very top of the scarf is in direct sunlight in that Dorman frame. If you watch the Zapruder film, you might see a similar effect as she moves in and out of various shadows. It makes it quite difficult to say which way her head is facing at certain times.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Royell Storing on December 20, 2025, 03:00:02 PM »


That’s Howard Brennan of course. It is also before the first shot. We can see Rosemary running right by Brennan. The frame with Brennan crouching is significantly later. Plenty of time for Brennan to hop down.

   Thanks for posting that Dorman still frame. On the Zapruder Film, the Willis Girl is wearing the top of her hoody over her head. I do not see her wearing that hood over her head on this Dorman still frame. The hood is bright white like the entire jacket is. If she is wearing that White Hood over her head on this Dorman still frame, it's bright color should match the rest of the jacket that we see. I do not see any of the white hood over the top of her head on this Dorman still frame. I also believe I am seeing her hair instead of that white top. What do you see when comparing the Willis Girl on this still frame to the Willis Girl we see on the Zapruder Film? She could have put the hood on while running, but that would be very unusual all by itself. Not to mention that the weather was extremely good at that point in time.
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Garrison told Fonzi that he thought that Larry Crafard shot Tippit, and that Jack Ruby was in the pickup truck that Julia Ann Mercer saw on the morning of November 22nd.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/gaeton-fonzi-s-notes-from-a-discussion-with-jim-garrison

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Charles Collins on December 20, 2025, 01:03:46 PM »
Here’s an image from Elsie Dorman’s film of what I believe is Howard Brennan’s squatting in the shadows of the wall he had been sitting on

Here's another still from the Dorman footage.
Who do you think the man on the wall is?
Santa?





That’s Howard Brennan of course. It is also before the first shot. We can see Rosemary running right by Brennan. The frame with Brennan crouching is significantly later. Plenty of time for Brennan to hop down.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on December 20, 2025, 12:26:19 PM »
The surprise ambush from above and behind was a very effective one then. Don’t you agree? However, there was at least one person who had it figured out. Here’s an image from Elsie Dorman’s film of what I believe is Howard Brennan’s squatting in the shadows of the wall he had been sitting on and looking up towards the sniper’s nest. This is just before LHO fired the third shot.






Here’s an image from Elsie Dorman’s film of what I believe is Howard Brennan’s squatting in the shadows of the wall he had been sitting on

Here's another still from the Dorman footage.
Who do you think the man on the wall is?
Santa?


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Why do so many people have a psychological need to believe the JFK assassination was a conspiracy?

Have sixty-six years (it started in 1959) of KGB* disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations had anything to do with it?

*Today's SVR and FSB
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