JFK Assassination Forum

To settle this nonsense once and for all, I made a small GIF from Wiegman's perspective.

Wiegman sees an opportunity for some dramatic footage and runs to the steps, the camera POV passes over the steps
The camera goes from shaking wildly to being incredibly steady for a few seconds, which means he isn't stumbling, but is resting his elbow on the the top step which is obvious in Steve's Bell still, in Bell's stabilized footage and the height of the camera in Wiegman's footage.



Bell's stabilized footage of Wiegman.



A clear frame of Wiegman on the steps.



JohnM

You are wasting your time, John.
Even though it's crystal clear from the Weigman footage you posted that the camera POV suddenly drops down to floor level just before it becomes steady. The top of the concrete walkway comes into view as Weigman rests on it to take his film of the Hesters. The Bell footage shows Weigman in exactly the position required to agree with the footage he took - sprawled across the steps, elbow resting on the concrete walkway.

what does that have to do with what just happened in Tenn?
It's a red state

Every state has leftists in the government and legal system.  It took 30 years to enforce the death penalty.  Then they allowed her to request an all female execution team who botched it.  Unreal. 

It amuses me how people get their shorts in a bunch trying to nail down precisely who was where in the minutes leading up to the shooting. They ignore the obvious evidence that tells us without question Oswald was in the sniper's nest firing the shots that killed JFK at 12:30. His fingerprints were on the boxes in the sniper's nest. The three shells found at that location were positively matched to Oswald's rifle which was found a short distance away. The only two recovered bullets were also positively matched to that same rifle, which also had Oswald's palm print on the underside of the barrel where it could only have been placed when the rifle was disassembled. Fibers matching the shirt Oswald was wearing when arrested were found on the butt plate of the rifle. There was also a makeshift bag found near the sniper's nest with Oswald's palm and fingerprint on the bottom. The bag contained fibers that matched the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle when he kept it at the Paine's house.

It is mind boggling that someone could look at all that evidence of Oswald's guilt and come to any other conclusion other than Oswald was the assassin. We have people on this forum willing to disregard all that evidence, yet these same people will mindlessly argue about what the cast of characters in front of the TSBD were doing in the immediate aftermath of the shooting, as if that had any bearing on anything of consequence.

Stupid is as stupid does.

You previously posted - "There is ample evidence  that Oswald was in the sniper's nest at 12:30"
You've been asked to provide a single scrap of evidence that places Oswald in the SN at 12:30pm.
Are you going to do that or not?

Let's put the question of Oswald's guilt to one side because this thread is not about Oswald's guilt - it's about the Warren Commission's guilt.
The story should be very simple - a lone nut brings his rifle to work and shoots the President from the 6th floor of the TSBD building. Everyone else was watching the motorcade, unaware of what was taking place.
It's such a simple story and ALL the evidence should point to that. There should be no need to fabricate any testimony or omit any testimony to make this story work. But that's not what we find.
It is a fact the Givens story about returning to the 6th floor is a later addition that had not been mentioned previously, even though Givens was grilled about his movements and his knowledge about Oswald's movements.
It is a fact the testimonies/statements of Williams, Givens, Lovelady and Arce concerning the Elevator Race are omitted from the final report.
It is a fact the Givens story paints a completely different picture than the Elevator Race - Oswald is no longer on the 5th floor, he is on the 6th near the southeast corner. There is no mention of Oswald calling out to the men coming down from the 6th floor or asking for them to send an elevator back up to him. It is now Givens, not Oswald, asking if he wants to come down to the first floor. Rather than looking to get down to the first floor, Oswald is now refusing to come down.
It is a fact that Eddie Piper's testimony puts Oswald on the first floor around 12 noon and it is also a fact this testimony was omitted by the WC.
It is a fact Arnold Rowland's observation of the man with the rifle and the black man in the SN window were omitted from the report.
It is a fact the testimonies/statements of the first responders (Mooney, Hill, Weatherford, McCurley, Haygood and Brewer) that collectively place BRW's lunch remains on top of the back wall of the SN (the barricade of boxes that hide the Sniper's Perch), have been omitted from the WC report.
It is a fact the testimonies of Jarman and Norman, that reveal the true length of time BRW was on the 6th floor, are omitted from the WC report.

All of this testimonial evidence regarding what occurred on the 6th floor leading up to the assassination has been omitted - 14 witnesses.
Not to mention Dougherty's revelation that he had his lunch quickly then returned to the 6th floor to work!

In it's place, the demonstrably provable lie put in the mouth of Charles Givens about returning to the 6th floor.
It is mind-boggling that someone could ignore all of this and simply swallow down the WC's  without question.

It amuses me how people get their shorts in a bunch trying to nail down precisely who was where in the minutes leading up to the shooting. They ignore the obvious evidence that tells us without question Oswald was in the sniper's nest firing the shots that killed JFK at 12:30. His fingerprints were on the boxes in the sniper's nest. The three shells found at that location were positively matched to Oswald's rifle which was found a short distance away. The only two recovered bullets were also positively matched to that same rifle, which also had Oswald's palm print on the underside of the barrel where it could only have been placed when the rifle was disassembled. Fibers matching the shirt Oswald was wearing when arrested were found on the butt plate of the rifle. There was also a makeshift bag found near the sniper's nest with Oswald's palm and fingerprint on the bottom. The bag contained fibers that matched the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle when he kept it at the Paine's house.

It is mind boggling that someone could look at all that evidence of Oswald's guilt and come to any other conclusion other than Oswald was the assassin. We have people on this forum willing to disregard all that evidence, yet these same people will mindlessly argue about what the cast of characters in front of the TSBD were doing in the immediate aftermath of the shooting, as if that had any bearing on anything of consequence.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Well the problem for me was the very beginning when Fritz started to interrogate Oswald without a proper way to record his statements. His scribbling notes which he then embellishes later are questionable.

So although I see that   this guy Oswald certainly was acting kind of arrogant and smirking seemingly enjoying his publicity, and being a Marxist and a traitor to his USMC oath, thus I believe him fully capable of being the assassin, its the details of how evidence was acquired that are troublesome to me.

I just have reservations that this looney tune Oswald was not afforded his constitutional right to have attorney present before he was interrogated. Then the line up was obviously not fair. And then the  chain of custody is muddy especially for CE. 399.

So as much as I tend towards the simplest solution being probably the best one , in this case there is so much snafu going on that it introduces reasonable doubt for me at least.

This is why my perspective is not hardcore CT but rather one which attempts to objectively verify for myself if the WC got it right. Some things are indisputable such as the MC rifle serial no. traced to a money order that leads to Oswald’s P.O. Box address. Other things however are not so definitive and in fact are of such level of snafu that it’s difficult to accept it was merely due to overlapping agency miscommunication.

Thanks.  Yes, that was a good one.  Guess he has everyone on ignore so he only has to follow himself.  very solipsistic, huh ?