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In my pursuit of debunking the Greg Parker-originating Prayer Man theory I discovered, with Richard Gilbride, that one of the Prayer Man films was freely available at the Brooklyn Library in the 1970's...Also, Southern Methodist University film professor G William Jones managed to make a 1st generation film to film copy of Darnell that is now currently available at the 6th Floor Museum and, I am certain, would be sent by said institution to the Luna Task Force if requested...So the Prayer Man films were not tightly held in the past...The main bottleneck is the Prayer Man hijackers who have managed to channel everything through themselves and the crooked Mary Ferrell managers who work with them...

If we look at The Education Forum and JFK podcast community, they are very much trying to ignore the progress of the correct evidence on Prayer Man and are consciously using intentional censorship and persecution to avoid admitting the correct evidence...They are using banning (and false reasons for banning) to avoid allowing any discussion that practices the implied "debate" The Education Forum encourages...Any correct evidence that demands a response is met with shunning, ignoring, and silence - all achieved by the cowardly device of blocking/banning and organized group dishonesty...Although they claim to practice the highest level of academic discussion they have a mob that they turn you over to when you out-argue them on the evidence...Even when the main gate-keeper offending moderator is removed the Prayer Man gang and its proxies still maintain that censorship...

   The opening :20 seconds of the Darnell Film that was released by the Sixth Floor Museum, was done with the permission of NBC. Why would the Sixth Floor Museum need NBC's permission to release that :20 seconds of the Darnell Film, if their Darnell Film came from "professor" G. William Jones? It's "arrangements" such as this that cause people to distrust the JFK Assassination Films. And the same goes for the Sixth Floor Museum. There is No Substitute for the Original Film(s).
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Now that I'm rereading it, I cannot believe that no one has mentioned Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why by Gerald McKnight. McKnight was a serious academic, and this book is widely regarded as one of the two or three absolute best CT tomes. McKnight doesn't go off on any wild CT tangents but simply provides a pretty devastating alternative perspective on the WC and the events swirling around it.

-Lance-

I thought about it (I read it couple of years ago) but think the learning curve is quite steep for a new student of the case. Same goes for dr. John Newman's Oswald and the CIA.

There is a mind-boggling array of books on the assassination. Just to pick six for a newbee is not easy.
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I'd change that to the first seven chapters. The first chapter doesn't even mention the issue of Ruby's Mafia ties. But, yes, chapter 1 is a good starting point to understand the original lone-gunman theory.

I would include the HSCA's extensive and historic research into Jack Ruby's Mafia ties and how Ruby entered the basement to shoot Oswald. These were two areas where the HSCA showed what a joke the WC's investigation was. 

Meagher's book has too many errors for me to recommend it to a newcomer. In some cases, she severely distorts the primary sources that she cites. She does make many valid points, but she also makes quite a few errors.

A solid choice. As a former Senate investigator, Weisberg was a very careful scholar. He was also honest. He turned on Garrison when he realized that Garrison was incompetent and unethical.

My two copies of Crossfire both have endnotes. I'm not sure which edition you have. The updated 2013 edition has endnotes, including in the Kindle version.

Most of Marrs' research on the JFK case was credible.

Oh, Thompson's updated version of Six Seconds in Dallas, his 2020 book Last Second in Dallas, is much better. It includes over 100 pages on the historic new research that was done by BBN scientists on the acoustical evidence, including the PCC test by Dr. Richard Mullen that proves the gunshot impulses on the dictabelt were recorded during the assassination. Thompson also makes very good use of the historic ARRB disclosures regarding the autopsy evidence.

- Michael -

You're quite right, I overlooked the parts regarding Jack Ruby and the fact that the Dallas Police Department allowed their prime suspect to get lynched. It always troubled me that Ruby was allowed to be in the parking garage during the 'aborted transfer' of Oswald, that not a single police official recognized him and told him to leave. It is most unfortunate. A trial could have provided many answers.

The 'joke' of the Warren Commission can be explained, at least in part, by the geopolitical circumstances of the time. Remember LBJ telling Earl Warren about the 40 million American dead within an hour? The Warren Report offers a political solution to the crime. Another handicap was the complete reliance on FBI and other federal agencies and the lack of independent investigators.

The version of Crossfire that I own was made available to me as a free PDF and has no notes whatsoever. Now that I know there is a version that includes end notes I will try and acquire it. Thanks for the heads up.
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AM--

Thanks for your inquiry.

Well, more or less Greer's narrative lines up with the Connallys, if I understand it correctly.

Mrs. Connally's narrative supports the "first shot hit JFK, the second hit JBC, and third hit JFK." The Connallys have been solid on that from Day One. They are not lefties, or KGB assets, and appear to have no axes to grind. They are just calling a spade a spade.

What Mrs. JBC meant by the word "recoil" is hard to say, but likely that was JBC doubling over from the shot that struck him, which happens ~Z-295.

BTW, JBC getting shot ~Z-295 lines up neatly with the many witnesses who described a "bang....bang-bang" cadence of shots on 11.22.
Your shot times are a much better fit with the evidence than the first-shot-miss SBT, but I would suggest that your z295 second shot is too late. JBC has already fallen back onto Nellie. Greer has already completed his turn to the rear and has turned forward.  I don’t see any hair flying up on JFK’s right side around there either.

As far as “recoil” is concerned, that is normally a term used to describe momentum imparted by a force. JBC described a significant impact from the bullet hitting him. Do you see any movement at all in that z250-z295 area?
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It's a damn good finishing point as well.
This is where things go off the rails.
This is where the train has completely jumped the tracks.
This is where the train has gone down the embankment and is plowing through a cornfield.

Jim Marrs never met a conspiracy theory he didn't embrace. The guy was a charlatan.
Not the silliest conspiracy book ever written but one of the earliest. Even the title of the book is a faulty premise since the shooting took more than 6 seconds despite popular beliefs to the contrary.

The purpose of providing new students with a reading list should not be the indoctrination of the pupil and pushing any given narrative but to stimulate independent thinking and critical analyses of the subject matter. This is the reason I listed the reports of the two government bodies that investigated the case (and came to somewhat different conclusions), two critical analyses of the Warren Report and two books by conspiracy theorists. I think it is a nice balance of the various points of view on the case.
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AM--

Thanks for your inquiry.

Well, more or less Greer's narrative lines up with the Connallys, if I understand it correctly.

Mrs. Connally's narrative supports the "first shot hit JFK, the second hit JBC, and third hit JFK." The Connallys have been solid on that from Day One. They are not lefties, or KGB assets, and appear to have no axes to grind. They are just calling a spade a spade.

What Mrs. JBC meant by the word "recoil" is hard to say, but likely that was JBC doubling over from the shot that struck him, which happens ~Z-295.

BTW, JBC getting shot ~Z-295 lines up neatly with the many witnesses who described a "bang....bang-bang" cadence of shots on 11.22.

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  Nobody sits on anything for 62+ yrs just because they can. There's a reason.

In my pursuit of debunking the Greg Parker-originating Prayer Man theory I discovered, with Richard Gilbride, that one of the Prayer Man films was freely available at the Brooklyn Library in the 1970's...Also, Southern Methodist University film professor G William Jones managed to make a 1st generation film to film copy of Darnell that is now currently available at the 6th Floor Museum and, I am certain, would be sent by said institution to the Luna Task Force if requested...So the Prayer Man films were not tightly held in the past...The main bottleneck is the Prayer Man hijackers who have managed to channel everything through themselves and the crooked Mary Ferrell managers who work with them...

If we look at The Education Forum and JFK podcast community, they are very much trying to ignore the progress of the correct evidence on Prayer Man and are consciously using intentional censorship and persecution to avoid admitting the correct evidence...They are using banning (and false reasons for banning) to avoid allowing any discussion that practices the implied "debate" The Education Forum encourages...Any correct evidence that demands a response is met with shunning, ignoring, and silence - all achieved by the cowardly device of blocking/banning and organized group dishonesty...Although they claim to practice the highest level of academic discussion they have a mob that they turn you over to when you out-argue them on the evidence...Even when the main gate-keeper offending moderator is removed the Prayer Man gang and its proxies still maintain that censorship...

Before he died Sandy Larsen did the Prayer Man people a favor from his moderator position...Larsen managed to stymie the entire issue by means of the lie that the female dress neckline seen in the 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy of Darnell was a CIA forgery designed to conceal Oswald's work shirt collar...This lie was strategic because it was meant to hang up the issue on the strawman that the only admissible evidence was the original films...But it also served the purpose of pre-emptive excuse-making for the obvious dress neckline that Larsen was aware refuted Oswald as Prayer Man...When I tried to argue this with Greg Doudna on "Jacks" I got banned...
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You're the one who has his head buried in the sand, Griffith.
As you know, the Connally's both said they heard/felt three shots - JBC heard two and said he was hit by a third. Mrs. Connally said she heard three.

Not four, not five, not six.

And both said the shots came from behind them. Including the one that hit JFK in the head. From behind. Not in front, not from the fence, not from the overpass.

Griffith doesn't believe any of this. But he suddenly believes them when it suits his conspiracy claims.

Of course, he also says the Zapruder film was faked, altered and is unreliable. But suddenly when it supports his beliefs it becomes reliable.
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This is just silly. Of course she wasn't looking at him in Z225-226, because he wasn't hit yet. Sheesh, how long are you guys going to bury your heads in the sand and ignore the fact that Connally himself, the guy who actually experienced the wounding, identified Z234 as the moment of impact, after carefully studying high-quality color prints of the relevant frames under high magnification? His identification of Z234 as the moment of impact dovetails perfectly with what forensic science tells us about how long it would have taken for his shoulder to be driven downward, for the air forced from his lungs to cause his cheeks to puff, and for a pained expression to appear on his face.

But you guys have to ignore this plain, obvious evidence because it destroys your SBT fantasy.

 You're the one who has his head buried in the sand, Griffith.
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SB-

My view:

Well, sure Mrs JBC did not see Gov. JBC being shot at ~Z-221, as he was not shot then.

JBC was shot ~Z-295, maybe even a few frames later.

Just IMHO.

 I didn't say anything about Z-221!  Read my comment again, she is looking straight ahead in frames 225 and 226. And JBC was wounded at the same time JFK was shot as the Zapruder film clearly reveals..  You have a lot of explaining to do if you actually believe he wasn't hit until Z-295 or later!
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