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JAMES - Thanks for posting that animated visual aid. Remember that the Huge Gates were attached to the side of the TSBD.  I do not believe the placard shadows are being cast onto "the wall"/"the side" of the TSBD. This is throwing off the animation measurements being posted. Those placard shadows look like they are being cast onto something stacked there. No side of the TSBD resembles what we are seeing on the Martin Film. There are dock doors on that same side of the TSBD 1st floor. Dock doors possibly being built into what we are seeing on the Martin Film? I don't think so.

Storing,

What are you trying to say?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Who did it?
« Last post by Tom Graves on July 02, 2025, 09:46:43 PM »
What a silly question.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Who did it?
« Last post by Frank Beard on July 02, 2025, 09:00:26 PM »
None of the above...

Your wish is granted
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  JAMES - Thanks for posting that animated visual aid. Remember that the Huge Gates were attached to the side of the TSBD.  I do not believe the placard shadows are being cast onto "the wall"/"the side" of the TSBD. This is throwing off the animation measurements being posted. Those placard shadows look like they are being cast onto something stacked there. No side of the TSBD resembles what we are seeing on the Martin Film. There are dock doors on that same side of the TSBD 1st floor. Dock doors possibly being built into what we are seeing on the Martin Film? I don't think so.
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     I believe we are seeing the gate just as it was on the film footage of Euins & Brehm being loaded into Sawyers car, and "The Three Tramps" photo. The Gate is Closed/Ajar. If the gate in the background of this Martin Film still frame was "wide open", (inward), as Officer Mooney testified, there would Not be the Open Space to permit the placards to be casting the shadows Behind them.  There is obviously Open Space between the Placards and the shadows they are casting. Also, look at the Gate middle crossbar relative to the casing the Gate is attached to. There is very little angle between that crossbar and the door casing. That crossbar is running almost directly into the casing.
Royell, it appears to me from the animation that the eastern gate was rotated about 14 degrees from the wall at 12:40.
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[...]

Jake "Eagle Eye" Maxwell,

Does "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin pay you, or do you do it for free?
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Yeow!
Here's what ChatGPT says about Zapruder possibly using a walkie talkie...

If Abraham Zapruder had been seen or heard on a walkie-talkie just minutes after the assassination, it would raise serious and suspicious questions about his role, especially because:
Zapruder was a private citizen, not law enforcement or Secret Service.
Walkie-talkies (portable two-way radios) were not commonly owned by civilians in 1963 — and certainly not by average Dallas businessmen like Zapruder.

The use of such a device immediately after the assassination might suggest coordination or inside knowledge, which would drastically alter the mainstream narrative of his being a shocked bystander.

If such a claim were credible, it would raise questions like:
Who was he communicating with?
What was the nature of the communication?
Why would he have such equipment in that context?
Was he part of a coordinated group?


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In the still from the Martin film above it looks like the gates are closed but they're not.
When the gates are wide open they rest against the interior wall. The shadows of the diamond pattern on the gates can be seen being cast against the wall.

     I believe we are seeing the gate just as it was on the film footage of Euins & Brehm being loaded into Sawyers car, and "The Three Tramps" photo. The Gate is Closed/Ajar. If the gate in the background of this Martin Film still frame was "wide open", (inward), as Officer Mooney testified, there would Not be the Open Space to permit the placards to be casting the shadows Behind them.  There is obviously Open Space between the Placards and the shadows they are casting. Also, look at the Gate middle crossbar relative to the casing the Gate is attached to. There is very little angle between that crossbar and the door casing. That crossbar is running almost directly into the casing.
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[...]

O'meara,

Perhaps you didn't understand what I wrote.

I'll try to rephrase it for you so you can understand.

Oswald was standing and awkwardly leaning forward at the 1/3-open window for his first, sharply-downward-angled, missing-everything shot which sounded different than his other two shots because the muzzle of his Carcano was just inside the building.

Oswald ejected the spent cartridge from his Carcano while he was still standing. That ejected shell didn't bounce off the stack of boxes behind him but flew unhindered all the way down to the stack of boxes to his right.

Oswald knelt and rested his left elbow / forearm on the top box for his next two shots, during which the muzzle of his Carcano was outside the building. When he ejected those two shells from his kneeling position, they bounced off the stack of boxes behind him and ended up under the window.

The different sound of the first shot, the fact that it missed everything, and the ejection pattern of the three spent shells suggest that this is what happened.

A scientific analysis of the conscious reactions of seven witnesses (including JFK, Jackie, and Governor Connally) by Roselle and Scearce in 2020 suggests that the first shot was fired half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 (after a 17-second pause), and that Oswald, therefore, took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza.

Understand yet?

https://d7922adf-f499-4a26-96d4-8ab2d521fa35.usrfiles.com/ugd/d7922a_e280e26982b44f2c97c6e6e27026e385.pdf
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Hi Robin,
The gate doors are open for Darnell and Couch. This graphic shows the approximate view of Darnell with the doors open and closed.


Excellent animation as per usual, James.
It highlights why Royell can't understand that the gates are wide open in the Martin film.
Towards the end of the clip below we see Sawyer, cigarette in hand, leading Brennan to his car where he briefly questions him.
For a second we see the gates in the closed position and I believe we also see the "citizen" that Mooney grabbed to make sure no-one went in or out.



I've watched this clip many times and get the impression that the gates have just been closed and the citizen is securing them (possibly)
We know from the photographic record the gates were wide open at 12:40pm (Hertz clock time)
I believe this actual moment can be pinpointed with some degree of accuracy.
After his conversation with Brennan, Sawyer contacts dispatch:



This transmission is timestamped 12:44pm
However, there is a slightly earlier transmission from Saywer.
At some point, just before a timestamp of 12:43pm, Sawyer contacts dispatch:

"We need some more men down at the Texas School Book Depository. We should have some on Main if we could get someone to pick up and bring them down here."

This transmission is made just before 12:43pm. We can assume Sawyer makes it as soon as he gets into his car and before he questions Brennan.
So we're looking at the closing of these gates around 12:41pm.
Exactly as you have marked in your animation.
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