JFK Assassination Forum

Hey, could you find a Gumby doll and figure out how Govnr Connally was sitting on the jump seat and which way his legs were positioned and how he was likely holding his hat during the Z film sequence and try out Andrew’s twisted pretzel position for JC at Z270?

Well I would suggest that if Oswald was the shooter and he was  part of a conspiracy, there were no plans for Oswald to be the patsy because surely there would have been a conspirator cameraman on the ground filming or getting a zoomed in photo of Oswald’s face as he stuck the rifle out the window.

So if it’s a conspiracy, then Oswald was not the shooter although he might have been used by the conspirators after they found out he was kind if a kook who had taken pictures of himself with a rifle and revolver.

That’s my Centrist perspective
 
Now who would know about Oswald’s rifle and his photos and that he had shot at Walker and all kinds of things helpful to the WC narrative ?That  would be Marina, the innocent naive  USSR girl who had coincidentally met all the other CIA defectors and of course said nothing at all to her relative KGB officer.

But we are not allowed to question poor little Marina , the one who in one WC testimony can barely speak English or understand it and then in other WC testimony is speaking English fluently and in great detail without a stumble. It’s a Miracle! Certainly the new husband is happy. However , George DeCIA spy , best friend of Oswald is depressed and finally reaches out to George H.W. Bush to get advice. George H.W.B sends a letter to George DeM and George DeSpy decides he should talk to a reporter but alas, about an hour before he is supposed to meet and share, he decides to put a shotgun in his mouth and pull the trigger.

Oh well nothing to see here folks. It’s nothing because “Oswald is our man” and “this case is cinched”.

That’s my CT perspective.

That's for the people hypothesizing a conspiracy to figure out. But since I'm in a generous mood, I'll give you a little help.

Physical evidence of one or more gunshots from a location other than the sniper's nest.

An eyewitness to a second gunman.

Wiretaps showing communications between the plotters and Oswald. Not an unrealistic expectation if you suspect the Mafia.

An informant.

That's just off the top of my head.

You'll have to take if from here.

It's hard to tell with the circles covering JFK but I'm estimating you have JFK's head to far inside. With his side against the side of the limo, I estimate the centerline of his head would only be about 9 inches inside that. I base that on my on body which is broader than JFK. I outweigh him by about 70 lbs. My ballpark estimate is the centerline of JFK's head would be at most 2 ft. from the outside edge of the limo.

I think I have that same model car although mine is not stamped Luckydiecast. I can't quite make out what the script is identifying the manufacturer but it is stamped Made in China. I've had mine about 10 years. My experience with model trains tells me manufacturers will often sell or duplicate the molds among themselves and it is not unusual to see that same item produced by two or more companies. It's very easy to change the embossed label. Mine indicates it was manufactured under license number 24048 if that means anything. The jump seats on mine fold down and then can be pushed forward completely out of the way.

That's a fair perspective - certainly more balanced than John's. But my God, there are at least 100 news stories every year involving multiple murders that are factually more ghastly than the JFKA. I read them, factor them into my perspective on human nature and what humans are capable of, and move on. I do think you grossly overstate the case in terms of Oswald letting a genie out of the bottle. There were surprisingly ghastly crimes long before Oswald, and the 1970's and 1980's looked nothing like today in terms of what you're describing. I think the near-hell we're living in today is due to factors much more recent than the JFKA. John's suggestion was that there is something illegitimate about anyone who is interested in the JFKA for any reason other than "JFK angst" and visceral hatred of Oswald. As stated, I'm very interested in Oswald the man and can have empathy for him without minimizing his actions. I can also be interested in the JFKA simply as a whodunnit and opportunity to exercise my brain, all of which I believe to be entirely legitimate. I actually think that the attitudes John expresses are an impediment to thinking critically about the case.