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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 04:32:27 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Today at 01:24:55 PM
You seem to have one of the more acute cases of TDS that I've seen.

Herr Corbett,

Being accused of suffering from "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is a badge of honor; it's like having lived in Germany in 1933 and been against Hitler.

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 04:16:48 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Today at 02:23:58 PM
   Your acceptance of the CAR NOT being on the Wiegman Film is a Huge 1st Step "Daniel Son". You don't realize it, but You have actually taken 2 Steps. By accepting that the CAR was NOT on the Wiegman Film, You are also accepting that this CAR was in Motion down the Elm St Extension while shot(s) were being fired at JFK. You just had your very own, "Wax On, Wax Off" moment. You are Now on your way. Enjoy the journey.

I have no idea whether the car appears in the Wiegman film or not and I don't really care. I took you at your word that the car doesn't appear in the film but it makes no difference if it does or not. You have presented nothing that even makes me curious about it. Over the past 35 years, I have seen literally hundreds of CT rabbit holes and I have better things to do then go down every one of them. Yours is no exception. Once you've seen one rabbit hole, you've seen them all.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 04:10:30 PM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 01:51:43 PM
Thanks for posting.

Yes, who knows about the mysterious cars driving in and out the railroad parking lot, probably nothing.

The important part of this interview, captured on film (~5:55 forward) is Lee Bowers describing the cadence of shots. The "bang....bang-bang" cadence. Bowers knock-knocking on the table is far too rapid for shots from a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle (the M-C). 

Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman also said the second two shot reports were "almost simultaneous," and Secret Service man Kellerman said the shots arrived in a "flurry," while Gov JBC said he thought the shots were fired from an "automatic." Some of these guys were veterans, and other law enforcement officials---people familiar with gunshots.

If the weapon was an automatic, no one would have heard individual shots. Typically full-auto weapons have a rate of fire of 600 rounds a minute or faster. That's 10 rounds a second. People sometimes use the term automatic when referring to semi-autos, which fire just one bullet for every squeeze of the trigger.
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This all lines up with JBC being shot ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313---as it appears on the Z-film.

Absolutely nothing lines up with JBC being shot at Z295. It is preposterous.
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The LNT SBT theories do require some suspensions of disbelief.

If you are referring to Andrew Mason's SBT, I would agree with you.

The WC's SBT requires no such "suspension of belief". It is the result of knowledge of the evidence and sound rational analysis. It is the only explanation of the evidence that meets that criteria.



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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 03:59:31 PM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on Today at 03:12:19 PM
If the shot was just before z150 as you suggest, the pigeons were long gone by z202 when she turned her head. Pigeons are remarkably fast and quick to take flight. See:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/TcgqnqYbIpk

The elapsed time from the shot until Rosemary looked back was less than 3 seconds. I don't think the pigeons would have vanished in that amount of time.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Lance Payette on Today at 03:58:20 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Today at 04:42:04 AM
You've put so many feathers in your cap you have a warbonnet now.

Or feathers in his crap, as the case may be.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Today at 03:12:19 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Today at 04:12:06 AM
Your reading comprehension seems to be as bad as your ability to properly weigh evidence. Who said the pigeons waited 3 seconds after the shot to fly off the roof. She turned in time to see the birds in flight. It's unlikely Marrion Baker saw the pigeons takeoff either unless he was looking at the roof when the shot was fired. Why would he have done that? He likely heard the shot, looked up and saw the pigeons in flight.

Rosemary Willis stopping at Z199 fits perfectly with her looking back to the TSBD a few frames later. I can't imagine that should would look back while she was still moving forward.
If the shot was just before z150 as you suggest, the pigeons were long gone by z202 when she turned her head. Pigeons are remarkably fast and quick to take flight. See:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/TcgqnqYbIpk
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 02:23:58 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Today at 04:42:04 AM
You've put so many feathers in your cap you have a warbonnet now. The only thing you've aroused in me are the chuckles I get from reading your insane theories. There was no getaway car. The fact that the car in question doesn't appear in the Wiegman film isn't evidence of anything. You have assumed the DPD reacted to the car but provided no evidence of such. I have pointed out three very basic items for which you have provided ZERO evidence. You have assumed all of these things to be true. Despite the challenge, you still can't provide evidence. What exactly should anybody give you credit for. Dreaming up a goofy theory out of thin air? If I did that, I would be obliged to do the same for all the other CTs I've engage with over the years who have also cooked up some insane theories with no evidence to support them. I will credit you for taking goofiness to a whole new level.

   Your acceptance of the CAR NOT being on the Wiegman Film is a Huge 1st Step "Daniel Son". You don't realize it, but You have actually taken 2 Steps. By accepting that the CAR was NOT on the Wiegman Film, You are also accepting that this CAR was in Motion down the Elm St Extension while shot(s) were being fired at JFK. You just had your very own, "Wax On, Wax Off" moment. You are Now on your way. Enjoy the journey.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Why do so many people overthink the JFKA?
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 02:06:42 PM »
Quote from: Lance Payette on Today at 01:21:52 PM
Fortunately, the forum is blessed with Dr. Payette, who not only has read reams of psychological and sociological literature about the conspiracy-prone mindset but also (1) shares a mild case of that mindset and (2) slept in a Holiday Inn Express as recently as last August.

It's called - really! - the "complexity bias." Studies have shown that many people, including many not otherwise prone to conspiracy thinking, choose incorrect complex solutions over correct simpler ones. Even animals do this!

I see this every day when I take my dogs for a walk. My female will sniff around and zigzag back and forth for 30 to 60 seconds looking for a place to pee while I'm thinking, "JUST PICK A SPOT ALREADY!!!". I have no idea why she is so particular or what makes her finally settle on a spot. My two males don't have that problem. They go in the same place every day, a short distance from the porch.
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 The brain has a propensity toward creativity. In those with a conspiracy-prone mindset, there is an exagerrated desire to find order in chaos and to connect dots until "everything fits," even if it doesn't really fit.

The irony is that the WC already gave us a scenario where everything fits.[uqote]

There is also an exagerrated desire for control, to think events and the world in general are explainable. It's kind of ironic that these desires for order and control often lead to preposterous, fantastically complex "solutions," but there ya go.

The elephant in the room - or on forums such as this, anyway - is that those of us who are at least semi-rational are attempting to have rational discussions with people who are so far into the conspiracy-prone mindset lunatic fringe that rational discussion is literally impossible. Hence, we finally crack and scream "SHUT THE F UP AND TAKE YOUR MEDS, WILLYA!!!" (or at least I do). If the lunatic fringe had at least SOME awareness that "Yeah, I'm nuts, but this is kinda fun, isn't it?" I could play along - but they are inevitably the most grimly serious, self-important of all.[/quote]

I've noticed that. I don't have that problem. This is a hobby for me. I have no illusions that anything any of us say here is going to move the needle of public opinion. I do this for amusement only. 30 years from now no one is going to remember a thing I have written in the past 35 years in online forums.
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Mildly off-topic, but still one of the best commercials ever:


I remember that series of commercials but I don't remember that particular one.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 01:59:21 PM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 01:51:43 PM
Thanks for posting.

Yes, who knows about the mysterious cars driving in and out the railroad parking lot, probably nothing.

The important part of this interview, captured on film (~5:55 forward) is Lee Bowers describing the cadence of shots. The "bang....bang-bang" cadence. Bowers knock-knocking on the table is far too rapid for shots from a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle (the M-C). 

Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman also said the second two shot reports were "almost simultaneous," and Secret Service man Kellerman said the shots arrived in a "flurry," while Gov JBC said he thought the shots were fired from an "automatic." Some of these guys were veterans, and other law enforcement officials---people familiar with gunshots.

This all lines up with JBC being shot ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313---as it appears on the Z-film.

The LNT SBT theories do require some suspensions of disbelief.

   "POW.......POW/POW"! This is how an adult Amos Euins described the shots on Max Holland's "The Lost Bullet". Euins even manually demonstrated the cadence of the shots as he judo chopped down on the pedestal he hid behind on 11/22/63.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 01:56:10 PM »


  I like how popular Dem's like Green, always have a Dem willing to challenge them for that free ride as a U.S. Congressman. As Brad Pitt said in "Fury" (2014), "Best job I ever had"! Those guys in DC are NEVER in DC.
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