JFK Assassination Forum

It seems to me that the only rational CT theories have to be along the lines of:

1. Oswald was a gunman in a conspiracy that had absolutely nothing resembling an escape plan. His odds of simply walking out of the TSBD were infinitesimal. If he bought into a conspiracy with the plan "Get your fanny out of there somehow, go home by public transportation and get your revolver, and meet us at the rendezvous point" - well, come on, Oswald was way smarter than that.

2. He was a patsy but knew his rifle was on the sixth floor and would be identified as the murder weapon, so he panicked instead of doing something rational like running to the nearest policeman. If he was a completely oblivious patsy, his post-JFKA actions make no sense.

No, wait a minute: In #2, his actions sort of would make sense. He realizes he's a patsy and that the only good patsy is a dead patsy. He figures they are going to kill him right then and there. So he hightails it out of the TSBD, has Whaley drop him off two blocks from the rooming house (because maybe they are waiting for him) and gets his revolver for protection. Not great, I'll admit, but better than #1.

Either of those is a tough sell.

Although Clyde Haygood is no longer with us, there are quite a few autographed photos and whatnot for sale on eBay. Is it a coincidence that the Bogus Haygood looks exactly like the Real Haygood? The conspirators sent a one-gloved Haygood doppelganger to walk around in the same vicinity where the real Haygood was also walking around? One might have expected a bogus DPD officer to look entirely different, with a "Jose Rodriguez" name tag and a spiel about having "just joined the force" if challenged by someone like ... well ... like Haygood.

For $100, a genuine signed Haygood can be yours on eBay. In this photo he appears not to have a glove on one of his hands. Perhaps he whipped it off to be prepared to draw his weapon if needed.

Nice job of cherry picking the WC testimony. Is there a reason you left out this passage from Studebaker's testimony?

Mr. BALL. What sort of training did you have for the crime lab work that you are doing?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. It's just on - the - job training - you go out with old officers and learn how to dust for prints and take pictures and fingerprints.
Mr. BALL. Have you had any special training in identification fingerprints?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. No, sir; we don't classify prints too much where we are. We just compare them.

Why would you site a technician rather than an actual expert in fingerprint identification? Somebody like FBI fingerprint expert Sebastian Latona?

Mr. EISENBERG. Returning to the prints themselves, you stated I believe that you found a palmprint and a fingerprint on this paper bag?
Mr. LATONA. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. Did you find any other prints?
Mr. LATONA. No; no other prints that we term of value in the sense that I felt that they could be identified or that a conclusion could be reached that they were not identical with the fingerprints or palmprints of some other person.
Mr. EISENBERG. Did you attempt to identify the palmprint and fingerprint?
Mr. LATONA. The ones that I developed; yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. Were you able to identify these prints?
Mr. LATONA. I--the ones I developed, I did identify.
Mr. EISENBERG. Whose prints did you find them to be?
Mr. LATONA. They were identified as a fingerprint and a palmprint of Lee Harvey Oswald.

As for Frazier's testimony, assuming he was being truthful, established Oswald carried a long paper bag into the TSBD. It did not establish the length of the bag because Frazier never measured it. He guessed at its length from memory. The way he described Oswald carrying the bag is consistent with where the prints were found, on the bottom of the bag. Frazier thought the bag extended above Oswald's shoulder but by his own admission he wasn't paying close attention to it. Why would he? Why would he think the length had any significance AT THE TIME.

The fact is that a bag with Oswald's palm and fingerprint on the bottom of it was found by the sniper's nest which also contained fibers matching the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle. If you want to believe that wasn't the same bag Frazier saw Oswald carry into the TSBD, that means Oswald would have carried the sniper's nest bag into the TSBD at some other unknown time and that the bag Frazier saw Oswald take into the building was never found. I don't have that problem. All I have to do is believe Frazier was just wrong about the length of the bag and that it protruded above Oswald's shoulder. That is very easy for me to believe.

Right, they're just dummies who probably don't even think One Glove Cop is an Haygood Imposter. 

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Off the topic, but I wonder how many people know that the Great Emancipator's view was not the freeing of the slaves and their integration into American society? It was the freeing of the slaves and sending them back to Africa or elsewhere ASAP because Blacks would simply never mesh with a white society. This was in fact the prevailing view, termed "colonization," within the anti-slavery movement.

Weirdly, as I happen to know from recent reading, the Mormons of Utah - who viewed Blacks as a cursed people carrying the Mark of Cain - overwhelmingly voted to extend them full civil rights in the Utah Territory before the Civil War.

Can you please post in something t more akin to properly spelled English? How do you expect anybody to wade through your bizarre jargon?