JFK Assassination Forum

In a democracy, you can't always get what you want. Deal with it.

Under Trump it is fascism.
How about them Epstein files huh? 38,000 times

TDS is just a cheap cop-out. We are all responsible for words and actions. All of us.
I don't blindly hate Trump. I am from the NYC area, so I've known a lot about him for a long time. 

I know, I want my country back. I want an EPA. I want a Dept of Education. I want a fair and unbiased FCC. I want "Voice of America and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty" back. I want NPR. I am a former broadcaster. I want a Consumer Protection Agency and other watchdog groups. I want a CDC I trust will act in the best interest of science and of course the public. I want National Park Rangers among other things.  FGS !

I don't want a POTUS that puts 100K vets out of their homes because it was a "Biden Program". Or a WH that cuts off food to a Catholic orphanage because the Pope said some "bad things". Then suddenly, Sean Hannity has to insult the Pontiff.

It is not his White House!  There is a process for renovations, especially of that size. Going to a 20K+ seat public arena in this hated environment is proof enough he doesn't need a ballroom for security reasons. On his visit to China, Pres. XI gave him seeds for Jackie's Rose Garden. Do you really think XI didn't know he destroyed it? Put the White House back or be fined.

The whole world sees how dangerous and reckless Trump is. Long time allies Spain, Italy, Poland, and Germany have turned away from us. France will no longer report its nuclear arsenal to the US, and has taken all of its gold out of NY. Meanwhile our "Sec. of War" was sent home in disgrace from a Normandy Memorial. Now, we're stuck in another useless war in the middle east. This time of our own making. We got Hegseth coming on like its a Holy Armageddon. Israel committing genocide.

I want a closed border as much as anyone but I have a huge problem with these detention centers and kidnapping people on only a civil warrant (if that). It was supposed to be the worst of the worst. Up to 70% are confirmed with no criminal record. Yet, they build more of these camps. why? How many are incarcerated for 6 months or more than a year?  Shouldn't it be a rotating door? Where does the deportation part come in? 

Speaking of deportation, I wonder how many that went to CECOT actually belong there? It only takes one to fail the entire program. Imagine that hell?

I am 68 years old. I have voted since 1976. I have always been politically aware. POTUS come and go - sometimes we lean to the right, sometimes left. All within an acceptable margin. Not anymore.  Like a "Super Villain" this actually is the danger of a madman upon the world. His recent "Meet the Press" appearance is just a glimpse into that instability. Congress MUST act. We cannot sustain this.

In a democracy, you can't always get what you want. Deal with it.

The original Derangement Syndrome, insofar as I know, was called Bush Derangement Syndrome. There are always those so far at the political extreme that the opposition party's candidate is going to provoke some form of Derangement Syndromen in them. I can definitely recall Reagan Derangement Syndrome. Trump is an extreme personality at best, and the policy differences between him on the one hand and Hillary-Biden-Kamala on the other were so stark that a more widespread form of Derangement Syndrome than is usually the case was inevitable (Kamala Derangement Syndrome almost as much as TDS). But this isn't what we're now talking about. We're talking about someone who is pretty clearly, to me anyway, pathologically disturbed. If he was your wacky old grandfather who sometimes says or does things that embarrass the family, that would be OK. But this is someone with too much responsibility, and too much power, to allow it to continue. To recognize this has nothing to do with TDS - good grief, I VOTED FOR HIM TWICE. As Michael said, in this context the claim of TDS is just a cop-out. Refusing to see what seems so obvious to me and many others is, it seems to me, its own species of Trump Derangement Syndrome. There are probably 25 Republicans who could replace Trump, and who would move forward with much the same policies, but who would bring an immediate end to the concern and fear that Trump's Presidency generates not only in America but around the world because he is so obviously unfit to hold this kind of responsibility and power.

    Trump immediately shut the border down and what happened? The economy of Calif nose dived. Calif NOW admits to being $18 Billion in debt. Calif is a modern day Tammany Hall. This explains how Kamala came outta there. That woman rose inside Calif due to her "ties" to Willie Brown. Everybody knows this but looks the other way, just as they now do with that nut-job sporting the Nazi Tattoo. The common denominator here being the Dem tie. The Dem's have gone off the rails due to TDS. 

I'm an infrequent participant on this thread because it really doesn't mean squat to me. When my wife I and screwed up our mail-in ballots in the 2020 election, we said the hell with it and didn't care enough to get new ones or vote in person. We are blessed to live in a town, and to live a lifestyle, where it's mostly still 1957. If I encounter a Black guy on one of my 5 AM walks, as I sometimes do, both of us know it's going to be nothing more than "Good morning, how ya doin'?" Trump, Biden, et al., are never even mentioned in our many interactions with our neighbors; they just aren't relevant to our lives. All of the assorted paranoia-fueled "protections" that seem to characterize modern life - guns, Byrna and Mace, elaborate security systems, cameras everywhere, survivalist stockpiles, blah blah blah - are simply not part of our lives. Unless we're going to be gone overnight, we don't even lock our doors. The only "incident" I've had in 29 years of living here is that some goofballs stole some decorative rocks out of my yard at 2 AM, apparently thinking they were way more valuable than they were.

The radio stations I get most clearly in the garage, where I do most of my workouts and hobbies, are "The Big Talker" right-wing conservative talk radio (Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, etc.) and American Family right-wing Christian talk radio. I can listen to them without coming unglued, although I do a fair amount of talking back. What's incredible is how one-dimensional and cartoonish they are. "The Democrats" and "the left" and "the liberals" are spoken of with a snarl, as though all Democrats and liberals are fungible and the listeners understand that these terms are simply code for "everything we hate and everyone we wish were dead." It's just completely unnuanced and mindless. I also enjoy, in a perverse sort of way, reading the comments at FOX News for the same reason - they are simply jaw-droppingly predictable and ignorant. Sometimes I'll make an innocuous little non-Trumpian comment of my own just to stir up the natives and accumulate 187 "dislike" votes. (And, yes, I know - MSNBC and its ilk are no different.)

I am someone who is probably 75% conservative - but a rational, issue-by-issue, non-doctrinaire sorta-kinda conversative. God knows what a rational, issue-by-issue, non-doctrinaire 75% liberal must feel like in this environment. I see absolutely no hope that America will ever resemble a country again. On both sides, the inmates are running the asylum and all forms of media just ratchet up the hatred and fragmentation. Something has to give, and it eventually will. I always say I'm glad I'm 76 and not 7.6, because it isn't going to be pretty. (I've been saying this since I was 45 and saying I was glad I wasn't 4.5.) If I had to bet on America existing 100 years from now as a 50-state republic in anything like its present form, I'd bet everything I own against it.

When Trump was elected in 2016, my best friend, who lives in the Big City, was ready to move to Canada. I talked him down off the ledge by simply asking "Honestly, what difference has it ever made to your life or mine who the President was?" If Hillary or Kamala had been elected, life here in 1957 would not have missed a beat. I was fully prepared for that with Hillary - didn't stay up to watch one minute of election coverage. What mystifies me about Trump now is the number of people who are seemingly oblivious to the pretty obvious reality that, apart from any policy issue, this is a seriously disturbed and potentially very dangerous man. He is an existential threat to life here in 1957 in a way that no other President has ever been. Even though I'm glad I'm 76 and not 7.6, I'd still like to make it to 80 in my little corner of 1957. Give me Hillary any day - and I can't stand her!

I actually feel sorry for people, including some on this obscure JFKA forum, who almost seem to feel it's some sort obligation, some duty as a citizen, to be caught up in the divisiveness and hate. Very strange and self-destructive, it seems to me.

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