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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Nothing seems to have changed
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 04:30:25 PM »
Quote from: Gerry Down on Yesterday at 12:27:54 AM
The car appears to be still parked there when the 3 tramp photos were taken. Odd behaviour if indeed someone was driving through the car park at the time of the assassination and then parked the car in front of the tsbd and just left it there.

I don't think a driver is visible in the car when Baker is seen running. I'm not saying a driver is not there, just that a driver is not visible.

    I want to nail down that this car is parked behind, (to the (L)), of both of those poles. The parked position of that car is critical. When Wiegman filmed that portion of the Island, if the car was already parked alongside the Island, Wiegman would have filmed/captured that 17+ Feet Long car. That is a very long car.
   With respect to the driver possibly being "in the car" when Officer Baker ran past the car, remember what the Couch Film shows us. The Couch Film shows 2 figures standing directly alongside this car BEFORE Officer Baker runs past the car. When focusing on these 2 figures, the Couch Film is the best film to use.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Nothing seems to have changed
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 04:07:24 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Yesterday at 03:40:24 AM
If one were standing on the side of the car and near the front, how much of it would be in front of the pole?

    In reality, there is NO portion of this car to the (R), "in front of the pole".
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Nothing seems to have changed
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 03:50:00 PM »
Quote from: Charles Collins on Yesterday at 12:38:56 AM

The car was parked on the (L) side of the traffic signal.

What gives you that impression?

   There's a good picture of the car at the end of the Hughes Film. This Hughes film snippet showing the car is included in, "Unsolved History JFK, Death in Dealey Plaza" presentation. That presentation is on YOU TUBE. At the 5:52 mark, you can see the car is parked to the (L) of the pole. The rectangular signage attached to this same pole is the, "NO PARKING At Any Time" sign. You can clearly read this Sign on the actual DVD. In conjunction with our seeing the car and the signal light pole on the (L) of Officer Baker as he runs across the Island on the Couch and Darnell films, the position of this car is not in question. It is clearly on the (L) of both the Traffic Signal Pole and the Street Light Pole. The Street Light Pole has the, "NO PARKING...." sign on it. The Traffic Signal Pole has a home plate shaped sign attached to it. The bottom of this sign comes to a point. The car is on the (L) of both of these poles. 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Nothing seems to have changed
« Last post by Tommy Shanks on Yesterday at 03:42:54 PM »
Quote from: Charles Collins on Yesterday at 01:17:10 AM


I agree with you. Here’s an overhead view showing (roughly) Weigman’s line of sight (blue line) going through the traffic light pole with the outline of the parked car shown on Elm Street Extension. The blue line dissects the parked car as is also shown in the Weigman film images. The red line roughly represents the line of sight in the tramps photo which was taken much later. It appears to me that the car in question is still parked in the same spot.



Uh-oh! Royell Storing got it wrong!
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Who Were the Two Men Heading *Down* the Stairs at NLT 12:50?
« Last post by Tommy Shanks on Yesterday at 03:41:05 PM »
Quote from: Mitch Todd on February 11, 2026, 11:40:12 PM
Mooney never claimed that the power to the building was cut off. Only to the elevator.`This is from his report to Decker:

"Officers Webster and Victory took the stairs and I told them I would take the freight elevator. At the time I got on the elevator two women who work in the building got on the elevator, saying they wanted to go to their office. As the elevator started up, we went up one floor and the power to the elevator was cut off. I got out on the floor with these women and looked around in their office and I then took to the stairs and went to the 6th floor"

No one else reported the power to the entire building being cut off or the lights going out etc, and there were any number of people in the building at the time.

Careful, Mitch! You're employing too much logic for Royell Storing!
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How "JFK" has contributed to the deterioration of our national psyche
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 06:36:47 AM »
Quote from: John R. Tonkovich on February 11, 2026, 07:23:33 PM
If the Zapruder film was such a proof of the official story, why keep it hidden?

Clearly, the Zapruder film was hidden to give the bad guys enough time to alter it and all of the photos and films that were taken in Dealey during the evil, evil, evil CIA's "executive action" against JFK!!!

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"I don't understand your comments on the Pentagon Papers and the Church Committee." (paraphrased)

The KGB took advantage of The Pentagon Papers to get Nixon to set up the nation-rending Plumbers.

We learn from Angleton's testimony to the Church Committee that the KGB may have used a Kremlin-loyal triple agent at the FBI (Aleksei Kulak) a Kremlin-loyal triple agent in Mexico City (Ivan Obyedkov) and an Oswald impersonator (Nikolai Leonov) to plant a Kremlin-protecting WW III virus in Oswald's CIA file on 10/1/63.



 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Nothing seems to have changed
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 03:40:24 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on February 11, 2026, 06:18:59 PM
As you are looking at the image.

If one were standing on the side of the car and near the front, how much of it would be in front of the pole?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Nothing seems to have changed
« Last post by Charles Collins on Yesterday at 01:17:10 AM »
Quote from: Gerry Down on Yesterday at 12:55:29 AM
The overhead image here shows where the car is parked. It's parked west of the traffic light signal, but because of the wide turn cars were making off Houston onto Elm, the front of the mystery car looks like it's to the east of the traffic light from the point of view of cars such as Weigmans car.



I agree with you. Here’s an overhead view showing (roughly) Weigman’s line of sight (blue line) going through the traffic light pole with the outline of the parked car shown on Elm Street Extension. The blue line dissects the parked car as is also shown in the Weigman film images. The red line roughly represents the line of sight in the tramps photo which was taken much later. It appears to me that the car in question is still parked in the same spot.



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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Nothing seems to have changed
« Last post by Gerry Down on Yesterday at 12:55:29 AM »
Quote from: Gerry Down on February 10, 2026, 08:11:07 PM
Here is an overhead view of the car from later footage:



The overhead image here shows where the car is parked. It's parked west of the traffic light signal, but because of the wide turn cars were making off Houston onto Elm, the front of the mystery car looks like it's to the east of the traffic light from the point of view of cars such as Weigmans car.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Nothing seems to have changed
« Last post by Charles Collins on Yesterday at 12:38:56 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 12:05:01 AM
   Whatever that might be, it is on the (R) side of the traffic signal. The car was parked on the (L) side of the traffic signal. And where is the remaining 17 Feet of the car? You can see between the people standing on the (L) of the traffic signal, and the surface street directly behind them is clearly visible. There is absolutely nothing directly behind these people. Not yet.
   I know after 62+ years some of you find this hard to believe. But this is what happens when "researchers" are focused on finding shooters, gun barrels, smoke, and any other $$$ generating pulp fiction. And this being the case, boring details such as this car rolling down the Elm St Extension while JFK was under fire are missed.
   The car was abandoned in that "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone for 3+ Hrs. What happened to the occupant(s) of that car?

                 ...............................................  STAY TUNED ............................................................


The car was parked on the (L) side of the traffic signal.

What gives you that impression?
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