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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files
« Last post by Lance Payette on Yesterday at 07:49:48 PM »
Keen-eyed observers may have noticed that no one, including me, had anything whatsoever to say about the video Duncan posted. I found it about as exciting as watching my microwave cook a Banquet pot pie (fairly yummy if cooked properly, and still only $1 at Walmart!). If you think you saw something interesting, do let us know.

It would seem that the UFO research community found the release equally underwhelming. The Anomalist, a weirdness site I have visited daily for many years, linked to several reactions to the release in its entries for May 11 and May 12: https://www.anomalist.com/.

FWIW, an Arizona law firm where I was a partner used a court reporter who had also been used by NASA during the moon missions. He said there was both the public transmission and a private one. Technology was so primitive that they used court reporters to transcribe the private line. He said he heard astronaut Michael Collins have some sort of mental or emotional breakdown but never heard anything juicy in the UFO vein.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Are we self-aware enough to answer: "Why do I care about the JFKA?"
« Last post by Mark Ulrik on Yesterday at 06:47:08 PM »
Apologies for the disruption, and thank you for the free diagnosis, Dr. Payette.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 05:40:25 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:33:00 PM
                                                                **  GETAWAY" CAR UPDATE   **

    I have just discovered 2 seconds of film footage showing what I believe was an intended "getaway" car parked directly across from the TSBD.

Oh, goody
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This car measures 17.5 Feet Long, and stands close to 5 Feet Tall. It is a massive automobile. This New footage of the car, is the closest images of the car that I have seen. The closeness of these new images includes the license plate, though the letters/numbers remain obscure. That said, I am hoping that the State and Year of the' license plate being issued can be discerned. A possible out of state plate would be an immediate Red Flag,

Of course it would. What reason would somebody from out of state have to visit downtown Dallas?
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though the license plates of Texas and Illinois (Chicago connection), during this time period were extremely similar. There is also the possibility of a stolen license plate being attached to this car.

The plot thickens.
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    I can tell you that this new footage clearly shows NO TICKET being tucked under the windshield wipers of this car. Had the car been parked alongside the Island before Dealey Plaza was blocked off from thru traffic, it most likely would have been ticketed for being parked inside a clearly posted, "NO PARKING At Any Time" Zone. This car Not being ticketed is further evidence of it being parked alongside the Island AFTER shots were fired at the JFK. This remains a very active investigation.

                               .....................................   STAY  TUNED   ............................................

I think you've nailed it, Columbo. Fame and fortune awaits you.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:33:00 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on October 28, 2025, 11:21:25 PM
Dear Comrade Storing,

I "get it" that your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR was parked a little bit behind the "Signal Light Pole" / "No Parking Pole" in Hughes and Martin clips. I'm just saying that from the perspective of the Couch-Darnell and Wiegman films, the front of the very same car is visible to us to the right of the "Signal Light Pole" / "No Parking Pole," and that the reason we can't see it in the latter is because the gaggle of spectators is hiding it from view.

(If it's the same car that's in the National Geographic video, it's a 1958 Pontiac)



Question: Do you think the way James spliced together two half-second-apart Wiegman frames in his Couch-Darnell / Wiegman overlap montage was devious or misleading?

Ya gotta scroll down to it:

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4597.40.html

-- Tom

                                                                **  GETAWAY" CAR UPDATE   **

    I have just discovered 2 seconds of film footage showing what I believe was an intended "getaway" car parked directly across from the TSBD. This car measures 17.5 Feet Long, and stands close to 5 Feet Tall. It is a massive automobile. This New footage of the car, is the closest images of the car that I have seen. The closeness of these new images includes the license plate, though the letters/numbers remain obscure. That said, I am hoping that the State and Year of the' license plate being issued can be discerned. A possible out of state plate would be an immediate Red Flag, though the license plates of Texas and Illinois (Chicago connection), during this time period were extremely similar. There is also the possibility of a stolen license plate being attached to this car.
    I can tell you that this new footage clearly shows NO TICKET being tucked under the windshield wipers of this car. Had the car been parked alongside the Island before Dealey Plaza was blocked off from thru traffic, it most likely would have been ticketed for being parked inside a clearly posted, "NO PARKING At Any Time" Zone. This car Not being ticketed is further evidence of it being parked alongside the Island AFTER shots were fired at the JFK. This remains a very active investigation.

                               .....................................   STAY  TUNED   ............................................
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 05:15:09 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 04:59:43 PM
   I ask you to look "outside of the box", and instead you give me the hackneyed, "you didn't get the memo". You make my point for me.

After using the hackneyed expression "outside of the box", you complain about me responding in kind. That's funny.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 04:59:43 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 04:08:45 PM
The case was solved 62 years ago. I guess you didn't get the memo.

   I ask you to look "outside of the box", and instead you give me the hackneyed, "you didn't get the memo". You make my point for me.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 04:53:18 PM »
Quote from: Lance Payette on Yesterday at 04:24:56 PM
Royell, does it ever occur to you that (1) you constantly accuse folks who have been deeply involved in the JFKA for decades of not having done their research and not being up to speed while (2) you yourself continue to propose completely absurd theories and to see things that absolutely no one else sees? Is there not a bit of a disconnect here? You always have this mysterious cadre of "high-level researchers" in the background who supposedly share your views, and you always promise far more than you and "they" ever deliver. Like more than one active participant on this forum, you are starting to sound - yes, let's say it out loud - completely insane. I would like to think that you and your fellow sanity-challenged participants were just playing a game, having fun with JFKA nonsense as I try to do, but I fear that for you and them the nonsense is serious stuff and what you actually believe. The Young Earthers and Flat Earthers make a far better case for their lunacy than you have ever made for ANYTHING. If you're serious, it's frightening. What's even more frightening is that you're far from alone.

    Try and confine your "observations" to 29:30. People want to swear by the JFK Assassination "Images", until they don't. As Detective Joe Friday used to say when questioning an eyewitness, "Just the FACTS, just the FACTS". What do you See on your frame-by-frame examination of 29:30? 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Last post by Lance Payette on Yesterday at 04:24:56 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 03:49:14 PM
     It is Not just the Jean Hill ID of a small dog/ "Lamb Chop" the hand puppet all by itself that matters. It is that Jean Hill DID see DOWN INSIDE the JFK Limo from her vantage point on the (S) side of Elm St. And, JFK DID fall onto the backseat of the car. JFK's head being generally pointed in Hill's direction as he fell onto the same backseat that the Lamb Chop hand puppet was laying on. Specifically, the JFK (R) Temple Wound would have been exposed to her eye as he fell onto that backseat. This is yet another JFK Assassination eyewitness that held value in an important unexplored area. Both then, and just as You are doing Now.  Jean Hill seeing that small "Lamb Chop" hand puppet on the backseat, means she could have seen much, much, more inside the JFK Limo. Whether she, (or you), realized it.
     If you seriously want to solve this case, you gotta think outside of the box. You continue treading water 62+ years later

Royell, does it ever occur to you that (1) you constantly accuse folks who have been deeply involved in the JFKA for decades of not having done their research and not being up to speed while (2) you yourself continue to propose completely absurd theories and to see things that absolutely no one else sees? Is there not a bit of a disconnect here? You always have this mysterious cadre of "high-level researchers" in the background who supposedly share your views, and you always promise far more than you and "they" ever deliver. Like more than one active participant on this forum, you are starting to sound - yes, let's say it out loud - completely insane. I would like to think that you and your fellow sanity-challenged participants were just playing a game, having fun with JFKA nonsense as I try to do, but I fear that for you and them the nonsense is serious stuff and what you actually believe. The Young Earthers and Flat Earthers make a far better case for their lunacy than you have ever made for ANYTHING. If you're serious, it's frightening. What's even more frightening is that you're far from alone.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Larry Hancock's JFKA Blog
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 04:14:17 PM »
I have one question for everyone who is fretting about whether LHO was acting on behalf of the Cubans, Soviets, CIA, Mafia, etc. How did any of these entities know in advance that Oswald would end up working in a building overlooking a motorcade route that had not even been planned when he was hired. If you can't answer that simple question, I have no idea why any of you would want to go down any of those rabbit holes.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 04:08:45 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 03:49:14 PM
     It is Not just the Jean Hill ID of a small dog/ "Lamb Chop" the hand puppet all by itself that matters. It is that Jean Hill DID see DOWN INSIDE the JFK Limo from her vantage point on the (S) side of Elm St. And, JFK DID fall onto the backseat of the car. JFK's head being generally pointed in Hill's direction as he fell onto the same backseat that the Lamb Chop hand puppet was laying on. Specifically, the JFK (R) Temple Wound would have been exposed to her eye as he fell onto that backseat. This is yet another JFK Assassination eyewitness that held value in an important unexplored area. Both then, and just as You are doing Now.  Jean Hill seeing that small "Lamb Chop" hand puppet on the backseat, means she could have seen much, much, more inside the JFK Limo. Whether she, (or you), realized it.
     If you seriously want to solve this case, you gotta think outside of the box. You continue treading water 62+ years later

The case was solved 62 years ago. I guess you didn't get the memo.
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