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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 12:09:51 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Today at 11:35:37 AM
Apparently your only source for that story is MSNBC which is no source at all.

Apparently you missed it.


REPORTER, AP: President Trump, you first. Just now, President Putin denied having anything to do with the election interference in 2016. Every U.S. intelligence agency has concluded that Russia did. My first question for you sir is, who do you believe? My second question is would you now, with the whole world watching, tell President Putin, would you denounce what happened in 2016 and would you warn him to never do it again?

TRUMP: So let me just say that we have two thoughts. You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server. Why haven't they taken the server? Why was the FBI told to leave the office of the Democratic National Committee?

I've been wondering that. I've been asking that for months and months and I've been tweeting it out and calling it out on social media. Where is the server? I want to know where is the server and what is the server saying?

With that being said, all I can do is ask the question.

My people came to me, Dan Coates, came to me and some others they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia.

I will say this: I don't see any reason why it would be. But I really do want to see the server but I have, I have confidence in both parties.

I really believe that this will probably go on for a while but I don't think it can go on without finding out what happened to the server. What happened to the servers of the Pakistani gentleman that worked on the DNC?

Where are those servers? They're missing. Where are they? What happened to Hillary Clinton's emails? 33,000 emails gone, just gone. I think in Russia they wouldn't be gone so easily.

I think it's a disgrace that we can't get Hillary Clinton's thirty three thousand e-mails.

I have great confidence in my intelligence people but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today and what he did is an incredible offer.

He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators, with respect to the 12 people. I think that's an incredible offer. Ok? Thank you.

(emphasis added)

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/16/629462401/transcript-president-trump-and-russian-president-putins-joint-press-conference
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 11:45:17 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 11:39:10 AM
You've been zombified by KGB-approved Faux News, dude.

Libertarians are the worst.

Especially pro-Trump Libertarians.

I find it hilarious that you scoff at Fox News and then turn around and present MSNOW as a paragon of broadcast journalism.

Anyone who puts their faith in MSNOW ought not be casting aspersions on anybody's choice of information. MSNOW is a bad joke. They are to broadcast journalism what Ed Wood was to movie making.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 11:41:03 AM »
Quote from: Dan O'meara on September 28, 2025, 04:56:19 AM
There are a number of forum members who have certain expertise when it comes to image analysis.

Are you being serious or did you just post that for laughs. You succeeded at the latter.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 11:39:10 AM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Today at 11:35:37 AM
Apparently your only source for that story is MSNBC which is no source at all.

You've been zombified by KGB-approved Faux News, dude.

Libertarians are the worst.

Especially pro-Trump Libertarians.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 11:35:37 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Yesterday at 11:57:33 PM
If you have no idea what I'm talking about (Trump's saying in Helsinki that he trusted Vladimir Putin more than our own intelligence services as to whether or not Russia had interfered in our 2016 election), then you're even more ignorant than I thought.

Apparently your only source for that story is MSNBC which is no source at all.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Robert Groden claims has original Wiegman film, says Prayerman is not LHO
« Last post by Mark Ulrik on Today at 11:10:47 AM »
Nice to see my old Darnell GIF being put to good use. I did, however, mess up with the edges, so I created this slightly tighter cropped version.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Jefferson Morley!
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 10:41:55 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 09:54:59 AM
TG--

I like the 1960s-style, when public personas were often referred to by all three names, or two names and a middle initial, or by three initials.

LBJ, or Lyndon Baines Johnson. JFK. Robert F. Kennedy.

No one even knows Joe Biden's middle name, or if he even had one. What a dud. Gavin Newsome?

"James Jesus Angleton" sure has a ring to it.

I don't know if Angleton was involved in the JFKA or not, though I tend to doubt it, as he was not an operations guy, and I rather suspect low-level operatives perped the JFKA on their own.

I readily concede your point, made elsewhere, that CT'ers, who never even met JJA, rattle off his full name and imagined characteristics as if they are deeply familiar with the topic and man.

The guy died in 1987. That is 38 years ago. I read Morley's book on Angleton, but it was somewhat blah.


1) Lame excuse.

2) Morley's "The Ghost" is KGB-approved disinformation, imho.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Robert Groden claims has original Wiegman film, says Prayerman is not LHO
« Last post by Gerry Down on Today at 10:01:47 AM »
Quote from: Duncan MacRae on Today at 09:09:09 AM
We don't need Groden or the Wiegman film to confirm to the crazies that it isn't Oswald in the Doorway.
A simple comparison with Photograph Willis 21 clearly shows that Prayerman is really Prayerwoman.



We don't need Groden or the Wiegman film to confirm to the crazies that it isn't Oswald in the Doorway.
A simple comparison with Photograph Willis 21 clearly shows that Prayerman is really Prayerwoman.




We don't need Groden or the Wiegman film to confirm to the crazies that it isn't Oswald in the Doorway.
A simple comparison with Photograph Willis 21 clearly shows that Prayerman is really Prayerwoman.



Thanks. Hadn't seen a close up of that picture before.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Jefferson Morley!
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 09:54:59 AM »
TG--

I like the 1960s-style, when public personas were often referred to by all three names, or two names and a middle initial, or by three initials.

LBJ, or Lyndon Baines Johnson. JFK. Robert F. Kennedy.

No one even knows Joe Biden's middle name, or if he even had one. What a dud. Gavin Newsome?

"James Jesus Angleton" sure has a ring to it.

I don't know if Angleton was involved in the JFKA or not, though I tend to doubt it, as he was not an operations guy, and I rather suspect low-level operatives perped the JFKA on their own.

I readily concede your point, made elsewhere, that CT'ers, who never even met JJA, rattle off his full name and imagined characteristics as if they are deeply familiar with the topic and man.

The guy died in 1987. That is 38 years ago. I read Morley's book on Angleton, but it was somewhat blah.

The whole topic of the JFKA is fizzling, no?




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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Jefferson Morley!
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 09:36:37 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 09:18:56 AM
Jeff Morley told Tucker Carlson that James Jesus Angleton was tight with Mossad, and Israel wanted nukes, but JFK was against proliferation, so it was plausible...Mossad waxed JFK.

Morley has defecated on himself in public a few times, but that took the conspiretard cake.

Morley jibber-jabbers about "fact patterns"...but obviously after 60+ years in the JFKA snipe-hunt, he is still grasping at straws.

BTW, Angleton had extensive ties to the Vatican, which played coordinated roles in Latin America, Eastern Europe, Italy, and SE Asia. The Vatican badly wanted to hold on to South Vietnam, where it was the largest landowner, and where 1.5 million of its flock were gathered. JFK wanted to back out of SV?

Why not propose the Vatican had JFK waxed? McCone, the CIA director in 1963, was a Knight of Malta.

Of course, Morley would believe Nosenko.

Do you like to include Angleton's middle name (which his Mexican mother gave to him, which he didn't like, and which he never used), or are you just quoting Angleton-hating Morley?
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