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Actually, I regret mentioning Epstein. Off topic.

If Trump committed crimes in regards to Epstein, let that be proven beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law, and I will accept the jury verdict. Same deal for anyone else.


What's an "Epsteiner"?
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There are some naive enough to believe any info out of Moscow regarding the JFKA. Then, or now.
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TG--

Actually, I regret mentioning Epstein. Off topic.

If Trump committed crimes in regards to Epstein, let that be proven beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law, and I will accept the jury verdict. Same deal for anyone else.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
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James DiEugenio is repeating kook-crackpot narratives about the USS Liberty being intentionally sunk by LBJ and Israel (even the USS Liberty captain was in on it), so that a nuclear attack (four fighter jets each with atom bombs) could be launched on Cairo.

"Iran . . . Israel . . . Iran . . . . Israel . . . . Iran  . . . ."

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Most Epsteiners are Democrats

Please don't talk in cutesy code.

What's your definition of an "Epsteiner"?

Regardless, are Marjorie Taylor Greene and Dan Bongino Democrats?

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Trump has already been more or less cleared.

You've got to be kidding.
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https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=147375

Note: J. Edgar Hoover's source, Pravda "journalist" Boris Orekhov (SHAMROCK), was expelled from the U.S. in 1970 for espionage.

His other source, Nosenko-supporting KGB Major Aleksei Kulak (FEDORA) at the Bureau's NYC field office, was the Kremlin-loyal triple agent who duped the FBI for at least ten years and was instrumental in Mexico City's Valeriy Kostikov's being prematurely* deemed Department 13, ergo the JFKA "cover up."

*CIA's official historian, David Robarge, wrote a few years ago that the Agency was never able to determine whether or not Kostikov was Department 13.

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TG--

There are members of the JFKA research community whose needs may be psychological (that is beyond my ken), but are obviously ideological.

This persists to this day, when certain JFKA CT'ers embrace narratives straight from Moscow and Iran.

In the old days, the JFKA CT community was nearly entirely left-wingers, and seized on the explanation that JFK was murdered by a high cabal-MIC plot to further the Vietnam war.

Some have gone so far was to suggest there would be world peace today, and those Israelis put in their place, if only JFK had lived.

James DiEugenio is repeating kook-crackpot narratives about the USS Liberty being intentionally sunk by LBJ and Israel (even the USS Liberty captain was in on it), so that a nuclear attack (four fighter jets each with atom bombs) could be launched on Cairo.

The Education Forum JFK Debate is obsessed with Trump and Epstein (despite the fact most Epsteiners are Democrats and Trump has already been more or less cleared).

Psychological needs? I don't know. What in a person's psychology makes them adopt one ideology or another?

Do some people have a need to believe authority figures? Who really knows this stuff?
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  Tina Towner - "Now I was beginning to leave when I heard the sky fall in - the LOUDEST crack of a rifle I HAD EVER HEARD".
                       
                       All of you are assuming Towner heard the Carcano Rifle being fired. Maybe she was hearing the sound of a Different gun/rifle being fired?
Others provide evidence of location of the rifle in the sixth floor SN. Dearie Cabell, upon hearing the first shot, looked straight up from where she was facing as her car (next behind the VP security car) entered the intersection and saw a pipe extending out of the sixth floor window. Three men on the floor below also identified the source as a rifle on the floor above them.

So unless you have evidence of a second rifle on the sixth floor other than the one found there, she heard Oswald’s MC.



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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Royell Storing on December 20, 2025, 06:58:32 PM »


It’s not a hoodie. It’s a scarf; a similar color to her jacket but not a part of the jacket like a hoodie. She is in Brennan’s shadow which makes a difference in the appearance due to reflected sunlight versus lack of reflected sunlight. I think that only the very top of the scarf is in direct sunlight in that Dorman frame. If you watch the Zapruder film, you might see a similar effect as she moves in and out of various shadows. It makes it quite difficult to say which way her head is facing at certain times.

   Thanks for the scarf info. I see on the Bronson footage that the scarf covering her head is a different color than the jacket.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Charles Collins on December 20, 2025, 06:38:36 PM »
   Thanks for posting that Dorman still frame. On the Zapruder Film, the Willis Girl is wearing the top of her hoody over her head. I do not see her wearing that hood over her head on this Dorman still frame. The hood is bright white like the entire jacket is. If she is wearing that White Hood over her head on this Dorman still frame, it's bright color should match the rest of the jacket that we see. I do not see any of the white hood over the top of her head on this Dorman still frame. I also believe I am seeing her hair instead of that white top. What do you see when comparing the Willis Girl on this still frame to the Willis Girl we see on the Zapruder Film? She could have put the hood on while running, but that would be very unusual all by itself. Not to mention that the weather was extremely good at that point in time.



It’s not a hoodie. It’s a scarf; a similar color to her jacket but not a part of the jacket like a hoodie. She is in Brennan’s shadow which makes a difference in the appearance due to reflected sunlight versus lack of reflected sunlight. I think that only the very top of the scarf is in direct sunlight in that Dorman frame. If you watch the Zapruder film, you might see a similar effect as she moves in and out of various shadows. It makes it quite difficult to say which way her head is facing at certain times.
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