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All of these books will end up on history's clearance table, as they should, while the WCR will continue to stand tall as the definitive account of JFKA as it has since it was first released to the public almost 62 years ago.





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https://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh2/pdf/WH2_DeclanFord.pdf
,,,,been very helpful.
Mrs. FORD. I hope so. I frankly wish I had questioned her more but I didn’t
feel it was my duty, but I wanted to tell you what she said to me.
recess.)
The CHAIRMAN. We will take a short recess.
(Short
TESTIMONY
OF DECLAN
P. FORD
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Ford, you were given a copy of this statement were you?
Mr. Foan. Yes, sir.
....
.... No.
Representative
between
FORD. That is all.
Mr. MURRAY. Mr. Chief Justice, may I confer briefly with counsel?
The CIIAIRMAN. Where were you born?
Mr. FOBD. Los Angeles.
The CHAIR~~AN. Did you go to the publicxschools there?
Mr. FORD. I attended both parochial
and public the two schools in Los Angeles and Glendale.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you went to the University of California
Mr. FORD. Right.
The CHAIRX~AN. Where did you go after that.
at Los Ahveles? You were in the service, did you say?
Mr. FOBD. I was in the service. in Bakersfield After I got out of the service I went back
to UCLA and finished my education and then went to work in the oil industry first and in Los Angeles, Ventura, DeGollyer
and McNaughton
The CHAIRMAN. I see. ....

12 years ago I added this section to the Earl Warren Wikipedia biography, reasoning that the JFK Wikipedia bio included plenty of dirt, a substantial portion less well supported than the following, after I noted that the Earl Warren bio made him out to be an altar boy.The wikipedia minder removed the CONTROVERSY section less than an hour later.

Warren as prosecutor, had known Declan Ford's father, and as governor, had appointed Declan's brother, John, as a state judge. Warren was pleased when Judge John Ford issued a favorable ruling related to air pollution reduction.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/ford_d.htm
TESTIMONY OF DECLAN P. FORD
"....Mr. MURRAY. Mr. Chief Justice, may I confer briefly with counsel?
The CHAIRMAN. Where were you born?
Mr. FORD. Los Angeles.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you go to the public schools there?
Mr. FORD. I attended both parochial and public schools in Los Angeles and Glendale.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you went to the University of California at Los Angeles?
Mr. FORD. Right.
The CHAIRMAN. Where did you go after that. You were in the service, did you say?
Mr. FORD. I was in the service. After I got out of the service I went back to UCLA and finished my education and then went to work in the oil industry first in Bakersfield and in Los Angeles, Ventura, and then went to work for DeGollyer and McNaughton overseas.
The CHAIRMAN. I see. .."

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https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3865.msg152738.html#msg152738
I did not understand how the opportunity arose for this to happen, or why. Warren did not interfere with his daughter Virginia being a fixture on the arm of Conrad Hilton, an organized crime front and money launderer. After it was assumed Virginia Warren would marry the much older Hilton, she married John Daly, visibly an alcoholic who Warren had to have encountered, considering the amount of time Daly spent drinking at Toots Shor's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toots_Shor
Toots Shor - Wikipedia
The then-Chief Justice, Earl Warren, considered Toots one of his closest friends. "The Chief" showed up to be photographed with a shovel full of dirt when Toots broke ground on Toots' 52nd street "joint". Third restaurant

Supporting links can be accessed at this link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Earl_Warren&oldid=432596658#Controversy
Controversy

Although Drew Pearson and Earl Warren were close friends and vacationed together[44] and considering Pearson's stepson, Tyler Abell and his wife Bess were employed in the Lyndon Johnson White House[45], the reporting of Drew Pearson in October, 1963, was incompatible with the proposal by Earl Warren and the endorsement of Tom C. Clark of the appointment of Albert E. Jenner, Jr. to the Warren Commission staff.

In 1946, fearing for his life, Chicago organized crime leader James M. Ragen contacted Clark through newspaper columnist Drew Pearson to obtain the protection of federal agents in exchange for information. A dozen FBI agents were sent to Chicago to interrogate Ragen. After checking and confirming the details of mob activity provided by Ragen, Tom Clark withdrew Ragen's FBI protection for lack of federal jurisdiction to prosecute the suspects Ragen named. Almost immediately, Ragen was seriously wounded by gunfire. Several suspects were arrested but no one was prosecuted due to the disappearance of some witnesses and the lack of cooperation of others. Ragen's condition was improving after the shooting, but he died suddenly in the hospital of mercury poisoning. Drew Pearson hinted in his syndicated column in October 1963 that Clark had told him that the FBI confirmed Ragen's accusations of Chicago mob control by leading businessmen and politicians. This was confirmed in the posthumous publication, eleven years later, of Drew Pearson's Diaries, 1949–1959 edited by Tyler Abell.[46]; Tom Clark had told Pearson that Ragen stated that Henry Crown, the Hilton Hotels chain, and Walter Annenberg controlled the mob.[47][48][46][49][50][51][52][53][54]

Earl Warren and his family were close friends of Henry Crown's investment partner, Conrad Hilton, and Warren's daughter, Virginia was formerly involved in a close relationship with Conrad Hilton.[55][56][57][58] The year following the publication of the Warren Report, Earl Warren selected[59] as his Supreme Court law clerk, the son of Paul Ziffren,[60]former California state Democratic party chairman, forced to resign after allegations of Ziffren's organized crime connections were leveled by Earl Warren's friend,[61] Senator William F. Knowland.[62][63][64][65]

"One of the things that was embarrassing and got national coverage was the Reader's Digest article of July, 1960. It was written by Lester Velie and is called, "Paul Ziffren, The Democrats' Man of Mystery." (The author sets forth a very detailed account of "Ziffren 's connections with the underworld and gambling figures of the period,") "[66]

Despite the disturbing information about Henry Crown, et al., Drew Pearson claimed was provided to him by Clark in 1946, Justice Tom Clark appointed Crown's son, John, as one of two of his 1956 Supreme Court session law clerks.[67] In December 1963, Chief Justice Earl Warren, acting as head of the newly formed Presidential Commission investigating the death of President Kennedy, suggested that Henry Crown's attorney, Albert E. Jenner, Jr., who also, at that time employed Crown's son, John at Jenner's Chicago law firm, be appointed as a senior assistant Warren Commission counsel. Warren gave his fellow commissioners the names of two men who approved of Jenner's appointment, Tom C Clark and Dean Acheson. [68]

The appointment of Albert Jenner to investigate[69] whether either Oswald or Ruby acted alone or conspired with others remains controversial.[70][71] In 1953, Albert E. Jenner, Jr. had represented Michael Frank Darling when he was investigated by the House Committee on Education and Labor.[72]Darling was business manager of IBEW union Chicago local 1031, the first and largest union organization to contract insurance coverage with Allen Dorfman and his father, Paul, an associate of Jack Ruby. [73][74][75]

https://books.google.com/books?id=oGq1AAAAIAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=high+places
Diaries, 1949-1959, Volume 1
Drew Pearson
Holt, Rinehart and Winston, 1974 - Journalists - 592 pages
"...high places. J. Edgar Hoover intimated the same thing. He said the people Ragen pointed to had now reformed. I learned later that it pointed to the Hilton Hotel chain, Henry Crown, the big Jewish financier in Chicago (involved in Cook County real estate deals with Jake Arvey) and Walter Annenberg.."

The accusation was that Crown and Hilton were Tony Accardo financiers, Howard Willens, DOJ liason to the WC who assigned the investigatory subject matter to
Albert Jenner and the othe Asst. WC counsels, was the son of a man who purchased the home in River Forest, IL, next to Accardo's and, when it was up for sale recently, a rumor emerged that the former Willens home had a tunnel connecting it to the Accardo residence!
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JFK Revisited crams a lot of information into very short segments in the two-hour film and (it seems) the target audience is people who are already familiar with the basic details of the JFK assassination and the investigations that followed.

The Clay Shaw trial isn't mentioned in the film (it's only mentioned that Shaw denied working for the CIA and that the HSCA confirmed he did have a relationship with the CIA) but neither is the Tippit shooting or Gen. Walker stuff.

Less than a minute was spent on Clay Shaw so your thread title is a little ridiculous.

Many things related to the Kennedy assassination were left out due to time constraints, not dishonesty. They were required to keep the film no longer than two-hours.

An extended version will be released in February.

Shaw and Garrison were performers in a distraction OP. They played their parts read their lines, no federal reinvestigation until 1975, mission accomplished.

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2771.msg102070.html#msg102070


https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3021.msg116174.html#msg116174

For us Dummies, it might be a good idea in your opening spiel to give a brief summation of where your following research leads because reading between the lines and trying to figure out what the heck you are trying to say, makes me skip a lot of your posts. Don't get me wrong I appreciate all the effort but sometimes it's just too difficult to make a link between your research and the JFK assassination.

JohnM

The late Tom Purvis pointed out that William P. Burke, CIA Southeast Domestic Contacts director since 1949,
had married a former Comus queen who was the daughter of a Comus queen and Burke's daughter was also selected by the anonymous Comus as his queen. This information is literally etched in stone on the grave memorials of those three generations.

When I checked Burke's wedding announcement, it said his best man was Brainerd Walker Spencer.
Burke's mother-in-law, wife, and daughter :
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100653422/marietta-kittredge
Queen MKC 1900
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100521564/frances-ivy-burke
Queen MKC 1927
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100520469/constance-ivy-fedoroff
Queen MKC 1950

Burke's best man and Phil Strong's Princeton roommate Spencer, honoring Burke's daughter the year before
she was Comus's queen,


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In 1857, Comus taught New Orleans how to parade | 300 for 300
https://www.300nola.com/portfolio-items/in_1857_comus_taught_new_orlea/
Jul 25, 2018 — Unlike Rex, Comus' identity is never revealed. The torch carriers who helped illuminate the Comus parade were the beginning of the flambeaux .

Description of Brainerd Walker Spencer (In my last post, I included three images from a Hill School, Pottstown, PA, yearbook showing that Spencer, Phil Strong, and CD Jackson were all schoolmates.)

Phil Strong was the son of Benjamin Strong, Jr. In 1954, Phil Strong, USMC reserve Captain and founder of the O.S.S. recruit training center in 1942, used his combined contacts as CIA Science Director and friend of Lockheed's Kelly Johnson, to earn Phil Strong the title of "Father of the U2".

In 1936, reserve USMC Captain Philip G Strong quit his job in banking to conduct an extended walking tour through Germany and eventually, into the Soviet Union, interviewing young people in countries on his route.
General Philip G Strong's grandson has his letters,

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https://www.tor.com/2013/08/09/toby-barlow-cia-agent-babayaga/
I Never Knew My Grandfather, Only What He Pretended to Be
Aug 9, 2013 — His name is Philip Strong and he has boarded here in the Hamburg station, ... strike up an acquaintance with a fellow name Otto Fuerbringer.

Otto Fuerbringer was working in Berlin in 1936, as a correspondent for a St. Louis newspaper when he gave
Phil Strong a post olympics, tour of Berlin.

In 1963 Otto Fuerbringer was editor-in-chief at Time magazine. He likely approved Stolley's purchase of the Zapruder film. Less than four weeks later, Fuerbringer approved a Time cover and feature article of Guy de Rothschild. I guess the beginnings of the WC was "back page, stuff".

Late in 1952 :



I know a lot, but I don't know what motivated Jim Garrison or what his goals were. How can Oliver Stone, DiEugenio, or you know?
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Some very knowledgeable folks believe one of those fragments might have been involved in Tague’s incident. But I find it interesting that the possible trajectory of an early missed first shot hitting Elm Street to the right of the limo also could have conceivably been involved in Tague’s incident. I think that this speaks volumes about the direction (almost directly away from the sniper’s nest) of travel of the limo during those 8 to 10 seconds.
So we ignore the only evidence as to the shot on which Tague was struck…
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Regarding James Tague's nicked cheek, what happened to the largish fragment(s) from the Z-313 head-shot bullet that were never found?


Some very knowledgeable folks believe one of those fragments might have been involved in Tague’s incident. But I find it interesting that the possible trajectory of an early missed first shot hitting Elm Street to the right of the limo also could have conceivably been involved in Tague’s incident. I think that this speaks volumes about the direction (almost directly away from the sniper’s nest) of travel of the limo during those 8 to 10 seconds.
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A possibility: The first two shots were misses because Oswald had to sight-in his rifle. The first shot missed completely, and the second hit JFK in the back, but those 2 shots let Oswald sight-in the rifle. With the third, he hit his target, Kennedy's head. He needed to sight-in the rifle because he had broken it down to carry it into the TSBD.
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In March 1967, Bertrand Russell's secretary, Ralph Schoenman (Joan Mellen's ex-husband), sent Jim Garrison a copy of an anti-Clay Shaw / anti-CIA article that had been published in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper (Paese Sera) three days after Garrison had arrested Shaw on suspicion of masterminding a "homosexual thrill-kill" assassination of JFK.

The article motivated Garrison to change his theory against Shaw to “He organized it for the CIA!”

Garrison lost his case against Shaw in 1969, but twenty-two years later, Oliver Stone based his self-described mythological (“to counter the myth of the Warren Report”) film, “JFK,” on Jim Marrs' 1989 book, Crossfire and on Garrison’s 1988 book, On the Trail of the Assassins, a copy of which had been given to Stone by its far-left publisher, Ellen Ray, at a film festival in Cuba.

Garrison said in On the Trail of the Assassins that he wasn't aware of the Paese Sera article until after the trial.

LOL!

Gag me with a KGB spoon.

OMFG!



Garrison and Nicholas Lemann kept the following from Joan Mellen and then editor of the Garrison book you describe in your post, Zachary Sklar.
Sklar was also the coauthor of the screenplay, "JFK, the Movie" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,5066.msg181607.html#msg181607
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In the course of attempting to determine if my new fact checked research details were actually original, I found identical details, by author of a biography of Clay Shaw, Donald H Carpenter.



....

(Gen. Phil Strong, USMC, just happened to be CIA science officer who initiated the U2 Spy plane project.)

Strong's prep school roommate, Walker Spencer, in Pottstown, PA, a Princetown U. feeder school, can be linked through that roommate to the busybody, Bouhe, in Dallas
whose sister in Plainfield, NJ who invited him to spend his last days there. Her husband's Princeton roommate was a member of "Squirrel's" 1928
touring musical production. Squirrel Ashcraft just happened to be CIA chief of domestic contacts in 1963.
So, the Dallas busybody's Georg Bouhe's sister's husband, a Mr. Tilbury Freeman, attended the same Princeton annual reunion that Squirrel attended, well into the 1980s.....
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2031.msg154502.html#msg154502

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...Edwin "Squirrel" Ashcraft was an authority on 20th century Jazz History. He certainly knew who George Lewis was. Tom Bethel authored the definitive biographer of George Lewis and quite likely was acquainted with Squirrel Ashcraft.

Squirrel also happened to be the boss of William Burke and Lloyd Ray who succeeded Burke as head of the NOLA office of CIA domestic contacts because Squirrel Ashcraft headed that CIA department.

Squirrel's Princeton class of 1929 classmate was "Buck" Freeman of Plainfield, NJ. His name came to my attention because it appears as a sponsor on George Bouhe's application for U.S. citizenship. George Bouhe died in Plainfield, NJ, the city of residence of his sister, Freeman's wife. Buck Freeman certainly knew Squirrel Ashcraft, as his roommate, Bert Seay was a Triangle Players member at Princeton and Buck Freeman attended the class reunions....

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https://paw.princeton.edu/memorial/tilbury-ogers-freeman-29
BUCK DIED Apr. 11, 1991. He had prepared at Irving and Horace Mann Schools, New York Military Academy, and Barnard. At Princeton he was in the Glee Club and belonged to Gateway Club, Bert Seay was his roommate. Upon graduation he went to the National Acceptance Bank of New York, which later merged with the Bank of Manhattan. In 1942 he went to Hamilton Standard Propellers in Hartford. After participating in various business enterprises, he sold his interest in a booming firm and started traveling. His hobby continued to be music, and he served as president of the Plainfield Mendelssohn Glee Club, and was a soloist both there and in the Grace Episcopal Choir. In 1934 e married Irena Alexandrovna Bouche, and she survives, together with a son, Tilbury O. Jr. Buck's brother Herbert C. '38 is deceased, The Class extends its sympathy to Buck's family.

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Tom,
.......

A question for the moderator(s):

Are we permitted to make insane asylum-based jokes here?


I did not write this, the insane (your wording) grandson of Phil Strong wrote it. It was spring, 1937, USMC Reserve
Captain Philip G Strong was beginning a two year walking tour of  Germany and Russia. His guide in Berlin was
future Time magazine editor in chief, Otto Fuerbringer....
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https://www.tor.com/2013/08/09/toby-barlow-cia-agent-babayaga/
I Never Knew My Grandfather, Only What He Pretended to Be
Toby Barlow
Fri Aug 9, 2013 11:15am Post a comment  Favorite This
Toby Barlow?s Babayaga is out this week from Farrar, Straus and Giroux, and follows the travels of a CIA agent posing as an ad executive CIA agent in Europe in the 1950s. What begins as a relatively straightforward operation quickly becomes something bigger, and weirder. Read an excerpt from the novel and see for yourself.

What you might not know are the life events that inspired Barlow?s story. Read on as the author tells us a tale about his grandfather, waiting on a German train in 1937?.

My grandfather sits on a train, waiting. It is early spring, 1937. His name is Philip Strong and he has boarded here in the Hamburg station, preparing to head to Berlin. Although I possess a volume of his letters from this trip, letters I have read many times, I am still not exactly sure why he is here.

He is 36 years old, a U.S. Marine Reserve Captain. But as a reserve officer, he is not travelling in uniform, instead he?s wearing an old tweed jacket. He has a bulky backpack stashed on the overhead rack. In his pocket is tucked his smoking pipe along with a small pouch of his treasured Dunhill tobacco.

Beside him sits a much younger man named Leko. They are on this sightseeing trip together. By all appearances, it is nothing more than that. They stay in youth hostels and ride on many trains such as this one, sitting back in the third class smokers.

It doesn?t make actually make sense that my grandfather would be here in any official capacity. He does not speak German or Russian, only a little French and only the most rudimentary Spanish. If the army had wanted someone to observe the European situation, they probably would have sent an agent who understood at least one of the various languages.

But it also seems too odd for him to be embarking on a journey with an itinerary that will take him through such a large number of the looming conflicts? many theaters. He will travel from Germany on to Poland, the Balkans, Russia, then down to Kabul and Tehran, driving from there over to Baghdad and Beruit before shipping off to the already jittery East.

Also, there?s the fact that he doesn?t know this young man sitting beside him very well at all. ?Leko and I are getting on well together ? we have likes in common with are being mutually discovered and so far have developed none which grate on each other,? he writes to his sister. It seems they are only socially connected, but not relatives and, until this trip, not friends. They do not agree politically, Leko, my grandfather reports, is pro-fascist, though my grandfather himself is not.

What is Philip Strong doing here? Maybe it is a bit of self-motivated opportunism. Perhaps he senses history coming and is cleverly placing himself squarely in its path.

Once they arrive in Berlin, Leko will strike up an acquaintance with a fellow name Otto Fuerbringer. This Otto fellow knows Berlin well so they all start travelling around town together. Otto is a Kansas City reporter, tall and handsome, my grandfather reports, a Harvard man. One day he will become the managing editor of Time Magazine. These are the sorts of people idly wandering around Hitler?s Germany in 1937, visiting all the various art museums, gardens and zoos (?the keeper who did the animal feeding was a born comedian.?)

Five years later, my grandfather will no longer be in the reserve, he will be very active. ....

Is not insane, the acceptance of the premise that Willard Robertson arrived in NOLA from New Haven, CT as middle aged
sales rep. for soon to fail Steelcraft Boats, soon left his wife and two kids, promptly marrying the 23 year old secretary
of the NOLA Steelcraft office, was driving the car in 1959 his young wife was killed in, and just happened to stay in business eight more years with his deceased wife's father, Ernest Gossom despite remarrying in 1962 and starting a
new family, founding and funding both INCA and Truth or Consequences and sponsoring Gordon Novel, on the way
to becoming, literally from scratch as the insane or incurious simply accept, to rise to multi-millionaire king maker of
both the McKeithen and Garrison political careers? Tooth Fairy probably has an authorative explanation...is he a member
here?

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....All of the other Volkswagen regional distributors were, to say the least, a cut above Robertson, both in wealth and in imported automobile marketing and servicing.
Charles Urschel, Jr. was step-brother of Tom and Earl F Slick. Willard E Robertson, Jr. was the employee of failing Steelcraft Boats of West Haven, CT in 1952. He is buried in New Hampshire.

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Philip Robertson and Patricia Anne Robertson Miller v. Willard E ...
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/477982/philip-robertson-and-patricia-anne-robertson-miller-v-willard-e/

Oct 22, 1986 - Willard E. Robertson, Jr., and Marlin Head, 803 F.2d 136. ... Willard Robertson, Sr. married Sally Moss Robertson in 1935 and lived with her in Connecticut. ... In 1947, the family moved to New Orleans, Louisiana, where ...

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In March 1967, Bertrand Russell's secretary, Ralph Schoenman (Joan Mellen's ex-husband), sent Jim Garrison a copy of an anti-Clay Shaw / anti-CIA article that had been published in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper (Paese Sera) three days after Garrison had arrested Shaw on suspicion of masterminding a "homosexual thrill-kill" assassination of JFK.

The article motivated Garrison to change his theory against Shaw to “He organized it for the CIA!”

Garrison lost his case against Shaw in 1969, but twenty-two years later, Oliver Stone based his self-described mythological (“to counter the myth of the Warren Report”) film, “JFK,” on Jim Marrs' 1989 book, Crossfire and on Garrison’s 1988 book, On the Trail of the Assassins, a copy of which had been given to Stone by its far-left publisher, Ellen Ray, at a film festival in Cuba.

Garrison said in On the Trail of the Assassins that he wasn't aware of the Paese Sera article until after the trial.

LOL!

Gag me with a KGB spoon.
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He was only shot one time.
We don’t really have any evidence that he was struck by only one bullet other than JBC said he felt only one bullet impact. The wounds are different and JBC did not feel two of his wounds. Everyone just assumed he was hit only once.
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Question:

“Does a full metal jacket bullet ricochet off of hard asphalt differently than it would off of softer asphalt?”


Google AI answer:

“Yes, a Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) bullet ricochets differently off hard versus softer asphalt. Hard asphalt behaves like solid concrete, often causing the bullet to skid or skip. Softer asphalt acts as a yielding surface, absorbing energy and altering the bullet's departure angle.

Hard AsphaltBehavior:

 Highly rigid and unyielding. The copper or gilding metal jacket of the FMJ remains largely intact upon impact.Trajectory: Because it doesn't break apart, the bullet skids across the surface. It will often ricochet at a very shallow, dangerous angle.


Softer Asphalt Behavior:

 Richer in bitumen and softer aggregates, yielding to the force of the bullet.Trajectory: The bullet tends to penetrate slightly, transferring more of its energy to the road. This penetration can create a "ramping" effect, sometimes throwing the deformed bullet or its fragments into a higher, steeper departure angle. The bullet is also more prone to losing stability, tumbling, and breaking apart.”

The image below of the Haags’ demonstration leads me to believe that the asphalt that they used was much softer than what I would expect the surface of Elm Street to be. Plus you can see the asphalt mixture with stones, etc that can vary in many ways.

Regarding James Tague's nicked cheek, what happened to the largish fragment(s) from the Z-313 head-shot bullet that were never found?
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“Conspiracy theorizing makes strange bedfellows.” If that’s not an old saying, it should be.

Lance, at my own peril I have been looking at the JFK Education Forum ... their former moderator W. Niederhut would seem to be exhibit A for lunatic fringe!
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