JFK Assassination Forum

JohnC is right, you've been watching too much Dirty Harry, real life isn't a Hollywood movie.

All these Soldiers were struck in the head with FMJ bullets and not one soldier is forcefully propelled forward and in fact not even one falls forward, they simply crumple straight down and fall back towards the shooters.



Mythbusters had multiple men firing into a pig carcass and it barely moved.



So you think the closest images that we have to what's on the actual Zapruder Film is outdated but your digitally enhanced Zapruder Frames which obscures detail and is not much better than being covered with Vaseline is the Gold standard, Interesting!

JohnM

So would not this  pig body and those soldiers not moving much after being shot with a bullet presumably at  2000ft/ sec velocity, negate the argument for the SBT bullet (only 1500 ft/sec) having caused JCs upper body and right shoulder to move so dramatically forward and rotating at Z224-Z230)?

I wanted to try an experiment but I had trouble finding someone who would agree to be shot.  There was also a problem in drafting an effective consent form but I never got that far.

I’m serious about an experiment with replica  (not real ) human bodies.

And I would like an actually CORRECT set up of the SN with boxes and pipes and a tree and a curving  road and the shooter required to not set up in fire position until a car moves past with 2 remote control androids  that can be adjusted and the JC android will be holding a Stetson hat with the  right hand.

I think this could be an interesting opportunity for  Elon Musk to set up this experiment both for testing androids,  Self driving cars AND proving or disproving the viability of the Z190/Z270  sequence shot theory.

I just found this listing for a Carcano short rifle.

https://collectorsfirearms.com/1111-italian-carcano-m38-short-6-5-carcano-r27052.html/

Unfortunately, it has already been sold. Asking price was $439.95. I would have thought it would have sold for more. I don't see a date for the sale. It appears to be the same model as what Oswald used. It does show that the "Oswald model" does occasionally become available if one keeps an eye out and gets lucky. Had I seen this ad before the rifle was sold, I would have been sorely tempted. I wonder how many of these are in private hands right now.

Yep, that’s getting into a reasonable price range. If it sold for that price anytime recently, it might be an indication that interest in the JFK assassination is declining substantially. At least we can hope these become more affordable for us regular folks.

   Did you forget about the, "surgery to the head area", declaration that Lifton discovered buried inside the 26 Volumes? Your "pathologist" claim above is incorrect based on this being in the 26 volumes.

There was no surgery to the head area. This wrong statement was based on the observation that gauze squares had been packed in the large head wound. This was done at Parkland by the nurses to prevent getting blood and brain all over the coffin.

The body alteration 'theory' is a fantasy. Think about it for a second. If the conspirators can control the autopsy, wouldn't it be much easier to forge records based on the post-mortem examination than cutting into a dead body? The casket was never unattended I understand. One would also need a conspirator with some medical expertise to conduct the ghastly task.

It is unfortunate that some individuals involved at the Bethesda examination made up sensational stories that lead to silliness.

   BUMP

Didn't Commission counsel watch the film with the Governor and his wife and some of the doctors that treated him at Parkland? I seem to recall something like that.