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The Manchurian Bigfoot! 

He was behind the 9/11 destruction too.
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The Bigfoot craze was big in the 1960-70s, along with the Manchurian Candidate idea.

I guess there are still some Bigfooters out there, but the Manchurian Candidate crowd seems to have dwindled into nothingness.

There are some who still hold that Sirhan Sirhan was brainwashed into shooting RFK.  But in all the decades since, no more Manchurian Candidates have surfaced.

Just like we never saw a Bigfoot. Or even their scat. Or dens. Or hairs that can be DNA-sampled.
Maybe it was Manchurian Bigfoot all along?
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The Bigfoot craze was big in the 1960-70s, along with the Manchurian Candidate idea.

I guess there are still some Bigfooters out there, but the Manchurian Candidate crowd seems to have dwindled into nothingness.

There are some who still hold that Sirhan Sirhan was brainwashed into shooting RFK.  But in all the decades since, no more Manchurian Candidates have surfaced.

Just like we never saw a Bigfoot. Or even their scat. Or dens. Or hairs that can be DNA-sampled.




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Dear FPR,

I can totally understand your not giving a flying you-know-what if your beloved Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") is owned by a fascistic revanchist multi-billionaire thug with a "Master Plan" skill set, as long as he (The Traitorous Orange Bird -- rhymes with "Xxxx") follows through on implementing Project 2025 and deporting all people of Godless color from your lily-white EDIT: future Disneyland.

Your disinterest in things KGB explains why you're so ignorant about (or actually love?) what it's been doing to us and our NATO allies since 1959, might be causing you to miss out on different perspectives on your favorite hoot -- the JFKA -- and definitely explains why you carelessly post anti-Golitsyn / pro-Nosenko screeds by the likes of "useful idiot" Barry Royden.

In a nutshell (pardon the pun), because it scares you to death to countenance the possibility that Putin, plus his St. Petersburg professional trolls and his KGB/GRU hackers and Julian Assange and Paul Manafort and Konstantin Kilimnik and Oleg Deripaska and Fox News, et al. ad nauseum (and, most importantly, oodles and gobs of highly intelligent but ignorant-as-all-get-out zombified-by-fifty-plus-years-of-KGB-"active measures" goombahs like you) installed you-know-who in 2017 and 2025.

Hint: The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx").

And you thought you were being so clever.

-- Tom

Dear FPR,

I was still editing it while you were vigorously trying to think of something clever to say.

So here it is, "again."

-- Tom

PS I should have said, "the future lily-white Disneyland of your dreams."

My bad.
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I choose to spend mine amusing myself by being silly, exposing the occasional factoid, playing golf, being the male version of the crazy cat lady, and not obsessing over things I can't control and that really have pretty much nothing to do with my life.

Dear FPR,

I can totally understand your not giving a flying you-know-what if your beloved Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") is owned by a fascistic revanchist multi-billionaire thug with a "Master Plan" skill set, as long as he (The Traitorous Orange Bird -- rhymes with "Xxxx") follows through on implementing Project 2025 and deporting all people of Godless color from your lily-white EDIT: future Disneyland.

Your disinterest in things KGB explains why you're so ignorant about (or actually love?) what it's been doing to us and our NATO allies since 1959, might be causing you to miss out on different perspectives on your favorite hoot -- the JFKA -- and definitely explains why you carelessly post anti-Golitsyn / pro-Nosenko screeds by the likes of "useful idiot" Barry Royden.

In a nutshell (pardon the pun), because it scares you to death to countenance the possibility that Putin, plus his St. Petersburg professional trolls and his KGB/GRU hackers and Julian Assange and Paul Manafort and Konstantin Kilimnik and Oleg Deripaska and Fox News, et al. ad nauseum (and, most importantly, oodles and gobs of highly intelligent but ignorant-as-all-get-out zombified-by-fifty-plus-years-of-KGB-"active measures" goombahs like you) installed you-know-who in 2017 and 2025.

Hint: The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx").

And you thought you were being so clever.

-- Tom
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Your Honor, may the record reflect that the learned counsel for Mr. Bagley just used the term "straight skinny" in the same sentence with names like Jefferson Morley and Jim DiEugenio? If Your Honor will permit, may the court reporter be permitted to use emojis - to wit:  :D :D :D - in the official transcript? Thank you, Your Honor.

My client confesses to being somewhat confused by learned counsel's inclusion of John L. Hart as a purveyor of the straight skinny since one might have thought learned counsel would regard him as a purveyor of non-straight non-skinny, or whatever the correct term may be. But whatever, Your Honor, we have no objection. May the record reflect that the name Cleveland Cram - whoever he was - strikes my client as a bit of a hoot as well? Thank you, Your Honor.

Yes, Your Honor, my client is fully aware of Leonard "Bones" McCoy. Beam us up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life here, etc., etc. Learned counsel's inclusion of Bones in the straight-skinny list is, we will concede, a nice touch of persiflage.

BTW, Your Honor, in law school I actually had a classmate named Roger Gonad. He covered his bases by pronouncing it go-NAHD, but I always thought that must be a hell of a burden to carry through life. Yes, Your Honor, I believe that's all we have on this.

Bada boom, bada bing. A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer in your pants. No, really, I could go on like this all day ...

Dear FPR,

In failing to find an error -- any error -- in what I've written in this thread and/or my reasoning, your desperate attempt to charmingly change the subject by pretending to not recognize the import of the scare quotes around the phrase the straight skinny and tell yuk-yuk jokes, instead, betrays your fake persona or should I say personas.

What's really sad, though, is your refusing to countenance anything that might challenge the sacrosanct-but-fake "patriotic brand" of your hero, The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx").

-- Tom
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I doubt that FPR has "the gonads" to try to debunk anything I've written or copied-and-pasted in my most recent post on this thread.

But maybe he will.

If his wife lets him.

And, of course, only after he's gotten "the straight skinny" from the likes of Tom Mangold, David Wise, Cleveland Cram, Richards J. Heuer, Jefferson Morley, John L. Hart, George Kisevalter, Leonard V. McCoy, and Jim DiEugenio, et al. ad nauseam.

EDIT:

Well, it's been a couple of hours and there's no sign of FPR, so I guess I go ahead with my next installment

Here’s a column that’s chock-a-bock full of Royden’s “misstatements." (It’s interesting to note that the whole column to the left of it is redacted.)

My comments are in brackets.


Nosenko’s Ordeal

By the summer of 1964, Nosenko situation had dramatically worsened. He was held a virtual prisoner in the Washington area while continuous efforts were made to convince him to “confess” his KGB role. In August 1965, Nosenko was moved to [deleted] where he remained until October 1967 in near total isolation.

In December 1965, the first protest of his treatment came from senior Soviet Bloc Division Reports Officer Leonard McCoy, who had been given access to Nosenko materials [Tennent H. Bagley’s thick file on Nosenko was loaned to McCoy by Division Chief David E. Murphy for a few days so that he could come to realize the threat that Nosenko and others posed to the CIA. Murphy did this after reading McCoy’s report about his recent meeting with Kremlin-loyal Aleksei Kulak -- J. Edgar Hoover’s shielded-from-CIA FEDORA – in which it was obvious to him that McCoy had believed everything Kulak had told him], concluded that Nosenko was a valid defector. McCoy then wrote a 31-page paper in which he detailed the unique value of the counterintelligence information Nosenko had provided, which stood in contrast to many of Golitsyn's vague leads. He also strongly attacked the analysis by which Nosenko had been judged. SB Division Chief Murphy rejected McCoy’s paper, but McCoy jumped the chain of command and in April 1967 sent a memo directly to Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) Helms making his case that Nosenko was a valid defector. In October 1967, based on the recommendation of DDCI Admiral Rufus Taylor (and possibly as a result of McCoy's memo to the DCI) Nosenko was turned over to the Office of Security [i.e., probable mole Bruce Solie, who was Deputy Chief of its Security Research Staff] for handling. OS [Solie] immediately removed him from solitary confinement and through August 1968 conducted its own polygraph examinations [sic; examination, singular –- one of the worst ones that polygraph expert Richard O. Arther had ever seen, according to what he told the HSCA in 1978], which concluded that Nosenko had been substantially truthful on all relevant questions. In September 1968 the FBI concluded after its own interrogations of Nosenko and collateral inquiries that there were no indications of deception by Nosenko and no good reason to doubt his bona fides. Finally, in October 1968, OS officer Bruce Solie [see above] wrote a [long, lie-filled] memorandum which concluded that Nosenko was the person he claimed to be, that he served in the KGB in the positions that he claimed to serve, and that he was not dispatched by the KGB [possibly true, because although he was a false defector-in-place in Geneva in June 1962, he may have been a rogue physical defector to the U.S. in February 1964], and that previous inconsistencies in his debriefings were not of material significance. [blatant lie] The OS report went on to cite voluminous valuable counterintelligence information Nosenko provided. [blatant lie] This included information on some 2000 [2000??] KGB officers and 300 [300??] KGB agents or contacts, some of whom he accurately identified as us the British citizens recruited by the KGB. [Bagley points out in Spy Wars that neither Nosenko nor any of the other false defectors or KGB-loyal "volunteers" betrayed anyone who wasn't either already suspected or still had access to classified information]

Angleton never accepted Nosenko’s rehabilitation. In January 1969 he continued to insist that Nosenko was a provocation, since to judge otherwise would have repudiated Golitsyn, “a proven reliable KGB source.” [That’s not why Angleton believed Nosenko was a false defector – He believed it for several other counterintelligence reasons] Nosenko died in August 2008. According to his obituary in the Washington Post, he had lived under an assumed name [George Martin Rosnek]. The obituary asserted that in 1975 he found Angleton's telephone number and called him; the conversation apparently led nowhere. [correct] 

Golitsyn’s Slide into Irrelevance

After his involvement in the HONETOL investigations [which commission had six members, one of whom was Solie], Golitsyn became increasingly removed from operational activities. In July 1965, the FBI broke off all contact with him. [J. Edgar Hoover always hated him because what he said made the FBI look incompetent] From then on, Golitsyn became immersed in writing books with his analysis of Soviet government behavior and goals and what he thought the West needed to do to defend itself. For the most part, he withdrew from contact with CIA or other intelligence services. He has produced two books that maintain his conspiracy and deception theories. A Facebook page is kept in his name; 38 people have “liked” the page as of the end of 2011. [Point being?]

Fancy Pants Rants is back!
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Two sets of tramps were arrested in the railroad yards. The pictured tramps are Rogers, Harrelson and Chauncey Holt. Lois Gibson identified Holt and Harrelson while the third "Frenchy" was Rogers.
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The car was always there but the ladies in front are blocking most of it.
The first image below is from the above photo gallery and you can see some of the car next to the lady with the folded arms and you can see the roof a little bit to her right.
I believe the car to our left is directly in front of this car and as can be seen the perspective angle relatively shortens the length and when approximately sized, fits well within the block of obscuring ladies.



Royell's Car on the extreme left and a car directly behind, shows that the car in the above image was behind Royell's car.



In this Couch frame, the end of the car is a good match compared to the folded arm lady and the roof section as compared to the ladies in Wiegman is a similar height.



JohnM

   As we see above in the Couch Film still frame, those 2 figures are headed directly toward the Passenger Train Cars in front of them. That alleged DPD Motorcycle Cop/Haygood is also headed toward those train cars on the Darnell Film. The photos of the "3 Tramps" shows them being marched away from this very same area of the Rail Road Yard.
   Does anyone know how the ID's/Names of the 3 Tramps were attained by DPD? Were their names simply "word of mouth", or did these 3 Tramps carry ID back in 1963?       
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Morley re-posted on his JFK substack what appears to be a travelogue, but one that crosses Dallas and the "X" where the "downfall" of America began.

This is a favorite meme of some JFKA CT'ers, that after the JFKA everything changed, an instead of global peace and enlightenment, we had decades of war and social regression. And you know what that means about who perped the JFKA.

Because Castro and Khrushchev were nice guys and the KGB and G2 also!

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      JFK Facts cross-posted a post from Sarah Kendzior’s Newsletter
      
Jefferson Morley
Jan 17 · JFK Facts

"X marks the spot where the modern American downfall began."

So write Sarah Kendzior about a recent road trip to Dallas and Dealey Plaza, in which the presence of history speaks to our present.

The Invaders

Thieves of American empire are gunning for your future.

SARAH KENDZIOR
JAN 17

 
The theater where Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested is playing Eyes Wide Shut. The movie is a revival. Everything is a revival when nothing gets resolved.

I am driving around Dallas the day after Christmas. The Texas Theatre is near Oswald’s residence, an unassuming home with a sign offering tours. I decline: I came to see the graves of Bonnie and Clyde and the Ewing Building where they shot JR. I can only handle so much crime at once. But Dallas never cared about that.

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My phone offers “news”: pseudo-revelations about Jeffrey Epstein that his victims told in the 1990s, back when Stanley Kubrick was making Eyes Wide Shut. The media ignored the victims because the media are friends with the predators. They dismissed them until 2025, when media itself crumbled and US institutions abandoned even the pretense of law. Now the predators are purchasing social media outlets, the last bastions of unfiltered inquiry, like they’re plugging leaks on their yachts.

There is a theory that Kubrick’s tale of satanic elites was inspired by Epstein — or at least, by people like him. I don’t doubt the latter. There are more people like Epstein than anyone wanted to know.

I drive over a white X painted on the road. I realize I’ve passed the book depository where Oswald allegedly shot JFK and am now in the place where he died.

X marks the spot where the modern American downfall began. It happens fast when you’re a Dallas stranger: the grassy knoll is there and gone before you feel the gravity. I wonder about locals who drive here every day and if a presidential corpse marker is something a person can get used to.

I replay the events of 2025 and how, despite my best efforts, my mind adjusted to the horror, even if my heart never could and never will. I’d rather carry this shattered reliquary in my chest than let it beat blithely to unremitting cruelty.

It’s not what I asked for, but it’s what I am, and they’re not taking that away too.

* * *

Every year my husband and kids and I drive from St Louis to Dallas for Christmas, and every year we stop in Arkansas or Oklahoma to make it interesting. In 2024, we saw a bootlegger’s lair, a Bigfoot Museum, questionable Viking runes, and the Center of the Universe (which is in Tulsa, of course.) In 2023, we visited Christ of the Ozarks and retraced the Trail of Tears. Both years we stayed at a haunted hotel.

The route between St. Louis and Dallas is one of the most interesting in the world. Buried crimes abet enormous absurdities. We stopped in Fort Smith, Arkansas, where white supremacists were tried for sedition in 1988, to see the World’s Largest Christmas Pickle. We had a Whataburger picnic in Paris, Texas under an Eiffel Tower replica topped with a red cowboy hat, and drove past the unmarked sites of lynchings until we found the highway again.

Our 2025 trip was bookended by caves. I love caves. It is soothing when the outer world matches the dark state of your soul. It makes you search harder for the light.

I have seen every show cave in Arkansas and 18 out of 20 in Missouri. This feat qualifies me for an Explorer’s Club Patch, which I was gently told by a park ranger is meant for small children. I sent for it anyway. In a cave, I feel like a child, awed and protected. There is no cell phone service in a cave. There is only the unbending truth of ancient geology, and the ever-bending bullshit of an Ozarks tale.

Old Spanish Treasure Cave is near Bentonville, where the Walton family built the Walmart fortune. According to legend — in the Ozarks, there is nothing else with which to accord — they were preceded some 300 years by Spanish conquistadors who mistook Arkansas for El Dorado and decided to search for gold.

The conquistadors found gold but were run out of the region by (take your pick) murderous bandits, Osage tribesmen, or a giant bear. They buried their bullion in the cave, drew a vague treasure map, and died before they could return. In the 19th century, a man in Madrid discovered the map inside an old family Bible. He sailed the high seas to Arkansas to begin the conquest anew, only to die upon arrival — but the legend did not. American miners picked up where the Spanish left off. The bounty is said to be worth over $300 million.

There are dozens of variations on this tale as well as real archeological evidence of Spanish inhabitation. Our guide led my family through layers of rock and history, a maze marked by ancient fossils and plastic conquistador skeletons. The raw beauty of life and the stupid things we do with it.

Stalactites and stalagmites shimmered, but far fewer than in centuries past. Lust for gold led Westerners to destroy whole sections of the cave, demolishing in seconds what took millions of years to form.

“Tourists broke it too,” the guide said, gesturing at a chipped and ragged stretch of ceiling. “In olden days, they’d get a soda straw [a small hollow stalactite] as a souvenir.”

I considered what it must be like to break a stalactite, to shatter a record of time like it meant nothing. Caves are alive. The tips of soda straws have drops of water filled with the minerals that help them grow a millimeter or so per year. They linger like teardrops waiting to fall. When one falls on me, it feels like a tear of joy, a sign that the world perseveres in darkness.

My mind wandered to the modern conquistadors: the oligarchs mining the earth to build data centers for artificial intelligence. Political frontmen want us subservient to both the oligarchs and their technofascist tools. They will sacrifice humanity and destroy the climate to get there. The latter is not new; the former is. The net of disposability has widened to include everyone but them.

Oligarchs are breaking and buying history the way Ozarks tourists snapped off stalactites decades ago. Show caves are lessons in damage done: how man has a choice between respecting the environment and living with it, or destroying it for mementos that thieve joy from everyone else.

When you delete the past, you steal the wonder of discovery. Childlike wonder is key to the show cave. Their modern stewards tend to be conservationists who guard the real treasure — the transcendent geology of the underworld — from robber barons above.

No one knows what happened to the conquistadors. It’s assumed they returned to the heart of Spanish territory, Latin America — perhaps, to what’s now Venezuela. Venezuela, where the US government and its oligarch partners have decided to rape the land the old-fashioned way: for oil.

What goes around comes around — but that’s not really true. What goes around can be destroyed and never seen again. What the oligarchs want most is no one left to tell the story, and no one left to love what once was.

* * *

On the way to Dallas we stopped in Tuskahoma, the Capitol of the Choctaw Nation. The Capitol building, built in 1884, is now a museum of Choctaw history. Exhibits on Choctaw crafts, self-governance, military service as Code Talkers, and oppression by the US government line the walls. “Chahta Sia Hoke – I am Choctaw!,” one wall read, surrounded by photos of Choctaw people over centuries.

In December 2023, my family inadvertently retraced the forced exile of the Choctaw: driving the Natchez Trace in Mississippi, their original territory, and then stopping in the Choctaw Nation in Oklahoma, where they were forced to live on reservations after walking the Trail of Tears.

I wrote about how the 19th-century fate of the Choctaw mirrors the 21st-century fate of the Palestinians — only to learn that Israel had abused the Choctaw, too, and recently. In 2006, lobbyist Jack Abramoff was indicted after stealing $15 million from the Choctaw, whom he described as “monkeys,” to give to Israelis to build a “sniper school” for murdering Palestinians.

Outside the Choctaw Capitol Building is an intricate silver sculpture called The Eternal Heart. It commemorates the bond between the Choctaw and the Irish. In 1847, the impoverished and displaced Choctaw heard about the Great Famine in Ireland, a weapon of British imperialism, and sent the Irish $170 — equivalent to about $5000 today. In 2020, the government of Ireland returned the favor by giving aid to Choctaws at the height of the pandemic.

The generosity of the suffering Choctaw to the suffering Irish is deeply moving — not only in its selflessness, but because it was never forgotten or taken for granted. The Irish remembered. A bond was forged. In that bond lies hope: that if we recognize the shared fragility of the world under the oligarch boot, and give of ourselves even in hardship, we gain strength in solidarity.

Being on the “right side of history” is romanticized. It often means you were wronged and people cared too late. You are acknowledged after the fact, and the fact is oppression, with your survival trumpeted like cheap equanimity. How nice that we’re both on the right side of history, now that the walls we built to contain you are loosed!

The Choctaw not only committed a kind act: they committed a defiant one. They remained human in the face of constant dehumanization. They stayed on the right side of history in real time. The Irish returned the favor and have been among the most outspoken nations about the Gaza genocide and other atrocities.

In the 21st century, defiance is compassion; compassion is defiance.

* * *

In northern Arkansas lies War Eagle Valley, named for bloody battles between Union-supporting Missourians and Confederate Arkansans. Its most famed monument is War Eagle Mill, where, in 2019, my son found a fossil in a boulder by the waterwheel.

He was eight and excited. We left the fossil alone, both because I can’t carry a boulder, but also because we wanted others to enjoy the serendipity of the find.

I didn’t return to War Eagle Mill until 2025. I searched for that fossil like I was trying to revive 2019 — before covid, before ubiquitous AI, before Trump term two — but couldn’t find it. I was after lost time: for what else is a fossil but found time? I imagined pressing the fossil and discovering it was a magic button that would transport us to the past. I prefer the past to the future because I know it’s there.

War Eagle Cavern lies a few miles from War Eagle Mill. Before it became a show cave in the 1970s, the cavern had been home to the usual Ozarks residents — Native Americans, bandits, bootleggers — and now was inhabited by 75,000 bats.

The guide led us down a rocky forest trail. He said he used to be a goat herder but was now a caretaker of the cave. He apologized for being tired and explained he had two toddlers at home. I looked at my two teenagers, remembering when they were smaller than stalagmites, and felt the deepest envy at his plight.

“Treasure this time with them, it goes by fast,” I said. He looked at me with the uncomprehending eyes of a man who hasn’t slept in three years.

We walked through a wide open-air passage and descended into the dark. I felt my senses heightening and dulling at the same time, a reversal of misfortune. This is why we had come. In a year of constant sorrow, I craved reliable relief.

We navigated a karst dreamworld of twisted tubes and sloping spires, our guide explaining their geology — until he suddenly stopped. He signaled to us to be silent and pointed his flashlight at the ceiling.

A lone gray bat slept upside-down. He was very small.

“This little guy got left behind,” the guide said softly. “Bats clear out of the cave every season. But he’s a juvenile and got confused and separated from his tens of thousands of friends. I keep an eye on him and make sure he’s doing okay.”

One by one we were permitted to walk under the little bat, as quietly as we could, so we would not disturb him.

We were the invaders.

Bats are vulnerable creatures. In the early 2000s, white-nose syndrome arrived in the US, reducing the bat population by millions: up to 90% in some caves. It paralleled the decline of everything in America we used to take for granted.

We shuffled through the cave until my daughter spotted something flickering in the distance and asked what it was.

“Good eye!” the guide exclaimed after inspecting. “That’s a tricolored bat; they’re rare. I didn’t know he was back there hiding. I’ll have to keep my eye on him too.”

My daughter later confessed she was inquiring about the egg sac of a horrifically large spider that lives in the cave and didn’t see the bat at all, but that was okay.

War Eagle Cavern makes a circular route. As we retraced our steps toward the gray bat, our guide looked worried. He thought the bat had stirred and wondered if the next tour group should be allowed to pass. I was touched by his concern. It was the concern of a good father.

Slowly, silently, we walked under the baby bat and bid War Eagle Cavern goodbye.

* * *

Dallas is a tangle of highways laid out like nooses choking the American Dream. Between them lie oil and tech companies scraping scars into the Texas sky. I still like to visit. Dallas is bad in an honest way. The sins and crimes of America are laid plain. That we do not fully understand them is laid plain too.

Days after we returned from Dallas, the US invaded Venezuela. They kidnapped its president. The agenda is oil, but the motive is what it always is: because they can. If no one stops them, they will do it again: to Cuba, to Iran, to Greenland, to outer space.

There are no limits and there are no regards. Taking for the sake of taking, abusing for the sake of abusing. Snatching everyone from a random migrant to the president of a sovereign state. Congress asks to be briefed on the illegal action next time round. Eyes wide shut, bank accounts wide open.

The drive between St. Louis and Dallas is one of the most interesting in the world because so much remains untouched by big business. It is infamously inhospitable. I want it to stay that way. Fossils instead of fossil fuel profiteers. Legends and lore from humans instead of chatbots. I prefer my bullshit homegrown, my lies artisanal.

I prefer people who protect wildlife and document history’s horrors while honoring those who did the right thing simply because it was the right thing to do.

Americans are being pulled into something worse than war. We are being pulled into a global realignment in which our existence is inconvenient. The ruling class doesn’t want to spill my blood: they want to kill my soul and hope that I don’t notice. They want the same for you, whoever you are.

The invaders love an endangered species, and humanity is on the list.

* * *

Dear "BC,"

1) What does "crosses Dallas" mean? You mean like burning KKK crosses?

2) Why did you put a question mark at the end of the title?

-- "TG"

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