JFK Assassination Forum

Putting your faith in legacy media makes even less sense than putting your faith in eyewitnesses. Much of the deception of the legacy media is in what they choose NOT to report as it is in what they do report. They will largely ignore negative stories about people who side with them as they did in ignoring the story of John Bolton's guilty plea to a very serious charge. But they did manage to squeeze in the stories about the escaped giraffe and the cowardly grizzly bear.

They all reported the Bolton story.

Bolton’s case is interesting because he used the documents to defend the foreign policy he helped carry out after Trump began revising history and refusing support to Ukraine. That led to his book that Trump tried to stop.  Trump on the other hand used the horde of documents he took to Maralago to show his friends.

Although I have no proof  that this it happened, I have often wondered if President Kennedy gagged once the bullet ripped through his throat, thus he threw his hand up and over his mouth.  He makes two jerking motions as he exits from behind the Stemmons sign.  The first is a very sudden head-nod motion, and the second  looks like a possible gagging/heaving motion.  I made a similar post to this group a few years ago regarding JFK's hands, and one of the people who read the thread pointed out that it looked to him like JFK wipes his mouth off as he's turning his head to his left. Since then, I've wondered myself if he didn't do this, and wondered if JFK could have both gagged on blood in his mouth, and the terrible feeling he must have suffered as the bullet tore through his throat.

That does not look to me, or apparently to most other medical professionals  , like an intentional series of movements. "I am gagging and am going to wipe the blood off my mouth now." That looks to me like a completely reflexive (i.e., Thorburn-like) reaction to a neurological stimulus.

The analysis of Altgens6 looks suspiciously like pareidolia to me. I'm not convinced we're seeing his mouth at all, let alone in the level of detail being suggested. I brought this up to maximum magnification on my screen and examined it with a magnifying glass, and I was still left saying "Ya got me." I did see Bogus Haygood Imposter there in the corner, however.

   The choking issue works both ways. A shot from the Front would also impact the interior of JFK's throat and cause gagging. Blood possibly coming out of the mouth? I'm not aware of anyone at Parkland Hospital or anyone in general reporting seeing blood on the mouth, in the mouth, or on the chin of JFK. And remember that they placed SA Hill's jacket over JFK's head. Those SS agents were getting a a very good look at JFK then. I do think gagging is going on. Like somebody gagging on food stuck in their throat, JFK's gagging could be a bullet lodged in his throat. This mandated the enlarging of the tracheostomy to remove it.

They based it on the evidence none of which conflicts with the zfilm ie. the evidence that

• JFK was hit by the first shot.

Wrong

• JBC was hit in the back on the second shot after he turned around to look at JFK after the first shot.

Right

• JFK was hit in the head on the third shot.

Right

• The last two shots were closer together.

Wrong

Your batting .500. That's much better than you usually do.

You think the witnesses all had the same hallucinations. Which is more stupid?

No, they had the same misperceptions. Do you think the witnesses who said the shots were evenly spaced and those who said the first two shots were closer togather were hallucinating?

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Years ago I did the math on the drop of a bullet at 300 fps over 70 years, and it wasn't much.

AI version:

At 300 fps, a heavy bullet like a .30-06 drops approximately 8.5 to 9 inches at 70 yards.

So a shot aimed at JFK's head from the TSBD6 would drop down to about where he was struck in the back. Remember, I said an underpowered bullet. Many witnesses describe the first shot as faint, or different in pitch and volume, from succeeding shots.

Your math skills are about as bad as your analytical skills.

70 yards is 210 feet. At 300 fps, it would take 0.7 seconds for the bullet to travel 210 feet. Here is how AI calculated the distance the bullet would drop.
 
Distance Fallen in 0.7 Seconds Near Earth’s Surface
For an object in free fall from rest near Earth’s surface, the distance fallen after time

where:

d = distance fallen (meters)

g = acceleration due to gravity ≈ 9.81 m/s²

t = time fallen (seconds) The Physics Classroom+1

Substitute
t = 0.7s:

d = 1/2 × 9.81 × (0.7)squared

d = 4.905 × 0.49

d ≈ 2.40
 
meters
Answer: The object will fall about 2.40 meters in 0.7 seconds, assuming it starts from rest and air resistance is negligible.

Maybe LHO hand-packed his first shot, as he seemed rather thin on ammo.

It doesn't matter why the bullet was underpowered. It wouldn't effect the gravitational drop.

Then there is this:

AI version:

A bullet traveling at 300 fps at 70 yards will likely penetrate about 1 to 2 inches (2.5 to 5 cm) into human tissue. Because 300 fps is roughly the speed of an airsoft gun or a highly spent projectile, it generally lacks the energy to shatter bone or reach vital organs.

So, an underpowered hits JFK were it did, but was possibly dis-jarred by the shock wave through his body by the shot at Z-313.

This narrative rests on Paul Landis being accurate in his recollections.

Your narrative rests on accurately calculating the amount of drop. 2.4 meters is roughly 8 feet. A shot falling that far isn't going to come anywhere near JFK.