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Well, again, my layman's view is that Gov. JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295. Maybe a few frames later, and he falls into his wife's lap about the time JFK is struck.

But when does Nellie stop looking at JFK and turn to look at her husband? That is where she put the second shot.

I am not sure what motion you are referring to at z295. Can you elaborate?

How about the motion of JBC just before he falls back on his wife?:


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There is a consensus that JFK is struck at Z-313.

IMHO, the JBC-JFK strikes are less than one second apart (18 fps) and that lines up with Seymour Weitzman's testimony that the last two audible shots on 11.22 were nearly simultaneous. SS agent Kellerman described the last two audible shots as a "flurry."

Most witnesses described distinct shots and many estimated that the space between the last two was about half that between 1 and 2.
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AM--

Thanks for your collegial inquiry.

Well, again, my layman's view is that Gov. JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295. Maybe a few frames later, and he falls into his wife's lap about the time JFK is struck.

There is a consensus that JFK is struck at Z-313.

IMHO, the JBC-JFK strikes are less than one second apart (18 fps) and that lines up with Seymour Weitzman's testimony that the last two audible shots on 11.22 were nearly simultaneous. SS agent Kellerman described the last two audible shots as a "flurry."

LHO had a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle. LHO was a good shot, and maybe he got lucky that day. The M-L short rifle was built to solid military specs, accurate to 200 meters.

But I don't see how LHO fired rapidly enough to be a lone assassin.

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No matter how much evidence is presented that Tyler Robinson committed the crime, there will be those who will refuse to accept that. Leftists will blame those on the right and those on the right will blame leftists, and none of them will have any evidence to support their suspicions. Just like the JFKA CTs.

And Putin's professional trolls inflame both sides.

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Another bit of Mrs. Connally's testimony, again indicating JBC was pushed forward at the moment he was struck from behind by a large slug, that tunneled along a rib, meeting resistance, and pushing his body forward.



As I see it, JBC lunge or is pushed forward ~Z-295
That is helpful to have that testimony from Nellie Connally.  She provides a time for the sound of the second shot: at the moment she shopped looking at JFK and turned to look at JBC. Where do you see that occurring? She says that JBC moved or “lunged” forward.  Greer said he turned to the rear almost simultaneously with hearing the second shot and Hickey said JFK’s hair flew up on the second shot.  Where do you see those things occurring?  I may be wacko in my thinking according to some on this board, but I would suggest that if all these things can be seen within a few frames of each other that would be good evidence of when the second shot occurred.

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The LNT-SBT theorizing evolved in response to President LBJ's diktat that LHO be found a LN with no leads to Havana or Moscow (no nuke war please), and the WC's subsequent necessity in making the evidence line up with that premise.

There were three loud shots heard deep inside the TSBD on 11.22, and that indicates there was in fact a TSBD6 sniper who fired three shots. Prime suspect is LHO.

The problem is the shot cadence---the shots that strike JBC and JFK are too close together to have been fired by a lone gunsel armed with a single-shot bolt action rifle. The "bang....bang-bang" cadence. Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman described the last two shots as nearly "simultaneous." A man with much experience in firearms.
I agree that the evidence is very strong that the last two were closer together and in rapid succession. But that does not tell us whether they were too close to have been fired from a bolt action rifle.  That’s really the issue. Locating the time of the second shot based on the evidence, not speculation, is the way to resolve that question, in my opinion. What’s your view?
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A large firecracker would have produced gunpowder smell, as no shots were fired from GK.
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Wow, so you wouldn't recommend a single pro-conspiracy book to a newcomer...

That's correct, I wouldn't.

But if I was being forced at gunpoint by a foaming-at-the-mouth conspiracy fantasist to recommend just one conspiracy-leaning JFKA book, it would be this one by Gus Russo:



But there are some big problems with that book too, which I talk about HERE.


...and you'd recommend the Warren Commission's report to a newcomer but not the House Select Committee on Assassinations report.

That's correct. And that's because the HSCA's Dictabelt-based conclusion that JFK "was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy" has since been completely discredited and disproven.

But the first five conclusions that we find on THIS PAGE of the HSCA's Final Report are things that should be read by everybody. (And those 5 findings have never been proven to be wrong.)


On a side note, did you not notice that the thread is about which six books you'd recommend to a newcomer, not which 10 books.




FYI, the 10 books that you list contradict each other on some key issues, such as the location of the rear head entry wound, the trajectory of the back-wound bullet, the location of the back wound, the position of JFK and Connally in the limo during the alleged hit of the single-bullet theory, and the 6.5 mm object on the autopsy skull x-rays.

But each of those books does something that no pro-conspiracy book has ever done --- i.e., follow the actual evidence in the case to where it all leads—a single gunman named Lee Harvey Oswald—without resorting to conjecture, speculation, guesswork, and unsupportable claims of fake evidence.
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LP--

Well...nearly every bit of evidence in the entire JFKA saga, including the Tippit angle, is one big Rorshach test.

However, I am divinely inspired, and thus correct in my conclusions on the JFKA.
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Andrew Mason: Thanks for your collegial inquiry.

I have looked at the Z-film a thousand times, and frame by frame.

I am a layman, though I am not sure there is such a thing as an "expert" at looking at blurry home movies and divining the moment of impact of a bullet on a body. Each to his own.

Another bit of Mrs. Connally's testimony, again indicating JBC was pushed forward at the moment he was struck from behind by a large slug, that tunneled along a rib, meeting resistance, and pushing his body forward.



As I see it, JBC lunge or is pushed forward ~Z-295.

The LNT-SBT theorizing evolved in response to President LBJ's diktat that LHO be found a LN with no leads to Havana or Moscow (no nuke war please), and the WC's subsequent necessity in making the evidence line up with that premise.

There were three loud shots heard deep inside the TSBD on 11.22, and that indicates there was in fact a TSBD6 sniper who fired three shots. Prime suspect is LHO.

The problem is the shot cadence---the shots that strike JBC and JFK are too close together to have been fired by a lone gunsel armed with a single-shot bolt action rifle. The "bang....bang-bang" cadence. Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman described the last two shots as nearly "simultaneous." A man with much experience in firearms.

There is the possibility of simultaneous shots heard as one shot on 11.22, or of someone firing using a silencer.





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Did "The Deep State" kill JFK, or was it the "Administrative State"?

They're the same thing, right, Steve Bannon?

(LOL)
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  Can YOU explain the splitting of the Atom and Nuclear Fission? Or do you believe that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were simply a hoax? Try to be consistent.

I guess I'm just supposed to blindly accept the Knott Lab conclusion without them explaining how they arrived at their conclusion.
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