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So you are saying Trumbo's right-wing conspiracy to kill Kennedy in 'Executive Action' was not inaccurate?...

"Not inaccurate"? That's a double negative. That implies I thought it was accurate.

Nothing in that movie was accurate except for JFK getting killed. The rest was make believe.
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I tried working out a plausible solution but it requires that Oswald痴 original plan was to shoot from the window at 12:15, that he transported the rifle multiple times in the bag ( yet only 2 prints on bag?) that he got spooked seeing BRW at the other SE window, that Oswald hid the rifle in bag again, went all the way down to 2nd floor lunchroom to be seen maybe at 12:17 by Carolyn Arnold , then a few minutes later , Oswald regained his nerve and went back up , took rifle in bag to NW corner , saw BRW still at the SE window. Then Oswald hid somewhere to hide until  BRW finally left 6th floor  at 12:23 using the elevator. Then Oswald has only about 2 minutes to arrange those 3 boxes , placing one on  the window ledge at that particular Angle ( he had to get the box on the window ledge before film started)  And he did all that without being heard by Harold Norman on the 5th floor room right beneath him. (Norman and Jarman were at their windows by 12:23)  And Dougherty neither saw  nor heard ANY of this activity.  ???

Why would you believe Arnold made a mental note of what time she saw Oswald? Nothing would have seemed less important at the time. She wasn't sure where or when she had seen Oswald. Why would she have been?
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Acoustic Evidence
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 08:23:57 PM »
This is not worth answering. These are just more of your inane, unserious, disingenuous arguments.

Translation: MTG has no rebuttal to the points made.
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I think it is clear beyond any reasonable doubt that Humes was deliberately misrepresenting the back wound's location in his CE 385 SBT diagram. He surely knew this was not even close to what he had seen. If you compare the autopsy photo of the back wound with CE 385, it is obvious that Humes mislocated the wound at least 2.5 inches higher than where the photo shows it.

The evidence that the back wound was clearly below the throat wound is truly extensive and impressive. For example:

Comparing the autopsy photo of the back wound to the left profile view shows this is a false claim.
https://www.svtperformance.com/attachments/kennedyautopsy3s-jpg.1226051/
https://ochelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Screenshot-2025-06-26-at-15-08-39-The-Kennedy-Autopsy-Minute-by-Minute-The-Kennedy-Autopsy-Minute-by-Minute-1.pdf.png

The back wound is only about 3 inches below the creases on the back of JFK's neck while the left profile view shows the exit wound in the front of the throat is considerably lower than that.

Once again, MTG relies on a long ago debunked myth.
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So presuming all the above sources posted by MTG are reasonably accurate , then there is one wound in the JFK back right where we see it in the one autopsy photo ( looks below shoulder line to me) which had no exit and then there is one entrance wound in JFK throat that also had no exit ?

Now I知 certainly open to this possibility  but I知 having trouble figuring out what type  weapons and what type projectiles cause each wound and why none of those projectiles were seen embedded in flesh or documents showing they were removed. And where each of these gunmen were located relative to the JFK limo on Elm st ?

Dissolving darts or small pellets  containing cyanide? Umbrella man and his CIA dart gun umbrella is improbable imo and more likely he and DC man were meant to distract tge SS agents to focus on them. That is IF either or both were conspirators vs simply being protestors)

Many bullets enter bodies without exiting. This is not uncommon.

The back-wound bullet clearly did not come from the sixth-floor window -- it came came at the wrong time and at the wrong angle to have come from that window. The shot may have been a misfire from a lower floor of the Dal-Tex Building (Harold Weisberg identified photographic evidence that suggests a gunman was firing from a lower floor that building), or it may have been a large fragment from the bullet that hit the pavement behind the limo early in the shooting (the small back-of-head bullet fragments could only have come from this bullet).   

The throat-wound missile ranged downward into the chest, as indicated by the damage described by Dr. Perry and Dr. Clark. This projectile may have been a fragment of glass from the bullet that made the hole in the windshield (eight witnesses saw the hole, and one of them -- a police officer -- even stuck a pencil through it).

I recommend reading Dr. David Mantik's extensive analysis of the back wound and the throat wound in his recent book The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis.
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John, I'm guessing Z145 maybe?

The photo is taken by Phil Willis who is standing on the road about 2 feet from the curb just before the motorcycles arrive (you can see their reflection in the fender above the rear wheel). Since Willis was using a viewfinder camera, he had the camera up to his face. You can see this up to about z141. Then he starts taking the camera down.



He also appears to start walking backward at about z141. So it was taken before z141.

If one aligns Willis, JBC and the concrete pillar opposite, it appears to be a bit more than a car length before z160 (based on positions in Trask's map).  That would put it in the late 130s:

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Acoustic Evidence
« Last post by Michael T. Griffith on Yesterday at 07:42:50 PM »
Imagine that. Two guys who Bowers had never seen before showed up at the time and place a presidential motorcade was passing by. That's a real head scratcher.
The flash of light could easily be caused by the sun reflecting off the chrome or glass of a moving vehicle.
Yeah, a POTUS getting shot would qualify as something out of the ordinary.
You are a very poor judge of what is logical or credible. You were given two possible but mundane reasons why three cars might have entered that parking lot and then left. You have given us no reason to believe those cars had anything to do with a plot to assassinate JFK. As is your custom, you simply assume what you cannot prove.
Keep clinging to your discredited acoustics evidence that flies in the face of the entire body of evidence. It's all you have going for you 62+ years after the fact.
Where would you be without "long-debunked amateurish, unscientific nonsense"?
But no shooter.
But for some strange reason she decided that wasn't worth notifying law enforcement about what she saw.
"She [Mercer] said, "A man was sitting under the wheel of the car and slouched over the wheel." (I defy any student of the English language to explain, from these words, the position the man was in.) ....

"But why presidential assassins...would deliberately draw attention to themselves by parking illegally and blocking traffic on a busy street in the presence of three Dallas police officers as well as lay witnesses like Miss Mercer is not known.

"Of course, conspiracy theorists never let common sense get in the way of their hallucinatory theories." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Pages 883-884 of "Reclaiming History: The Assassination Of President John F. Kennedy"
MTG offers us earwitness and nose-witness accounts of a shooter on the GK but no eyewitnesses and no physical evidence of a shooter on the GK, a shooter who wasn't seen, left no physical evidence, and didn't hit anything. Real compelling stuff.

CTs have been peddling this nonsense for over six decades and where has it gotten them. Are they any closer to identifying someone other than Oswald who was complicit in the assassination? If they can't figure out what happened with what is already known, what reason is there to believe they ever will? Do they think that after all these years, there is going to be some game changing discovery that is going to change the narrative that Oswald was the assassin? The snipe hunt continues without results.

Oliver Stone's movie came out in 1991 and soon after I discovered internet discussion sites and began arguing the case of the JFKA online. Some of the names have changed, but the same stale old arguments keep getting recycled. Old I could crush a Grape ooooh yummy yummy get polished up and presented as if they are new revelations. Nothing has changed and nothing ever will. The only question is whether after all of us are dead and gone whether future generations will still care about any of this nonsense. My guess is they will have more pressing concerns, like how to deal with the massive amount of debt we have saddled them with.

This is not worth answering. These are just more of your inane, unserious, disingenuous arguments.

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Not a mockery
« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on Yesterday at 07:40:13 PM »
Hmmmm, looks like that other forum is sill up to their old tricks.  I知 glad we got Duncan as our overlorder, he痴 nice.
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So presuming all the above sources posted by MTG are reasonably accurate , then there is one wound in the JFK back right where we see it in the one autopsy photo ( looks below shoulder line to me) which had no exit and then there is one entrance wound in JFK throat that also had no exit ?

Now I知 certainly open to this possibility  but I知 having trouble figuring out what type  weapons and what type projectiles cause each wound and why none of those projectiles were seen embedded in flesh or documents showing they were removed. And where each of these gunmen were located relative to the JFK limo on Elm st ?

Dissolving darts or small pellets  containing cyanide? Umbrella man and his CIA dart gun umbrella is improbable imo and more likely he and DC man were meant to distract SS agents to focus on them. That is IF either or both were conspirators vs simply being protestors)
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i would want to acquire the Dale Myers 3D recreation but that isn't really free. Plus, even if you had the money, you wouldn't be able to get it, unless we form a conspiracy of our own to make a fake company and license all those films and stuff and leak them.
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