JFK Assassination Forum

The idea that Michael Griffith can credibly accuse another person of being closed minded is risible.

Amen!

You are unserious and immune to persuasion.

And you believe every long-debunked conspiracy theory about the medical evidence...

There's no "getaway car," man. Give it a rest.

What do you expect after sixty-two years of KGB disinformation, including Oliver Stone's self-described mythological ("to counter the myth of the Warren Report") "JFK," which was largely based on Jim Garrison's book, "On the Trail of the Assassins," which in turn was based on a KGB article published in a communist-owned Italian newspaper?

Oh, so your view is a decidedly minority view because of the KGB! Yeah, okay. Thanks for sharing.

THE conspiracy view? LOL! Which one?

This is juvenile nit-picking. There are plenty of differing versions of the lone-gunman theory (e.g., Jim Moore vs. Gerald Posner, Larry Sturdivan vs. most other lone-gunman theorists, Lattimer vs. most other lone-gunman theorists, the autopsy doctors vs. the HSCA medical panel, etc., etc.). Apparently you could not tell that I was speaking generally. "The conspiracy view" refers to the basic position that JFK's death was not merely the work of one man but involved a number of people.

There are a fair number of people who posit a non-conspiracy view that has Oswald only firing two shots and has a Secret Service agent accidentally firing the head shot.

There are gullible people on both sides of the political spectrum, Comrade Griffith.

"Comrade"? No sane person who knows anything about my politics would refer to me in this manner.

Frankly, I'm surprised the moderators allow you to keep spewing your crazy KGB obsessions in this forum to such a degree. You are unserious and immune to persuasion.

The Unraveling of Richard Case Nagell

Here is a video about Richard Case Nagell. It is based upon his lawsuit to get full disability from the United States government. He eventually won his lawsuit.

I notice the video does not explain how Nagell had the names of several CIA officers in his notebook. Anyone who claims that Nagell was insane (he most certainly was not) and that he was only a low-level counter-intel officer in the Army needs to explain how in the world he could have known the names of not one or two but six CIA officers.

Here is where my decades of intel experience gives me a broader, deeper perspective. I worked with several Army counter-intel guys. For nearly a year, my direct operational boss was an Army counter-intel guy. I got briefed at least 15 times by Army counter-intel officers/officials. I worked at two NSA sites. I worked several joint intel assignments where we had guys from several three-letter intel agencies, including the CIA. Personally, I never knew of any CIA guys who would even use their real names on assignments, and certainly not in operations. Sometimes you would not even know when someone was CIA--they would be placed under the guise of working for a different agency, and you would find out later that they were CIA.

No Army counter-intel officer working under CIC or in any other CIA-connected capacity is going to know the names of six CIA personnel. That is not going to happen. He will work with one CIA contact, maybe two on rare occasions, and he probably won't even know the CIA guy's real name.

I can assure you that it is astonishing that an Army counter-intel guy would have, much less write down, the names of six CIA personnel. That is extremely suspicious and unusual. If you don't believe me, find someone who has had a TS/SCI clearance, with caveats, and who has worked joint intel assignments, and ask them what they would think if an Army counter-intel guy had the real names of six--not two or three, but six--CIA guys, and also wrote them down, even in a private notebook. I guarantee you they will tell you that this would be extremely unusual and would indicate that the Army counter-intel guy was much more than your usual counter-intel officer.