JFK Assassination Forum

Like he said " I'm just a Patsy " !

I thought that Tomlinson said that CE 399 found on the gurney had a pointed head that of course would have been different from the rounded nose that was used of the so-called CE 399 that we have been shown for years .

I'm just sharing Richard Lipsey's witness statement to the HSCA for visibility - https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/med_testimony/Lipsey_1-18-78/HSCA-Lipsey.htm

The specific section, where he is quite specific, reads:

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Q: Could you describe for us the nature of the damage to the front of the neck?

 
LIPSEY: No. I really couldn't. Because like I say, when we got it out, there was -- blood was all over the body. It was almost caked on. I remember they took a scrub brush and a pail. One of his arms, and if I've not mistaken, it was his left arm. You know, the way, I guess, after he died, finished the autopsy by that time and, rigor mortis had set in and one of his arms was slightly higher. Well, the guy's laying down and one of them was up a little bit. So when they started the autopsy I can remember, one of the doctors, when he was starting to clean the body up, got up on the table and physically got up on the table and put his knee down on his arm to hold it down -- to get it out of his way -- so he could scrub the rest of the body. So to say, to describe the hole to you, no. Because it was so messy and so much blood that I didn't, I never got close enough to get down and look at the wound itself.

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Wrong thread.

Thanks for the bump, though.

For me, this is a hobby. I can't explain my fascination with it anymore than a stamp or coin collector could explain their interest in their hobby. It just interests them which is a good enough reason. The more I studied it, the more interesting it became because of all the supporting characters and their involvement. I doubt anyone but a real assassination buff could tell you who people like Bonnie Ray Williams, Roy Truly, Howard Brennan, Johnny Brewer were just to name a few. The more I studied it, the more impressed I became with the work of the WC. While they didn't answer every question, the answers they did give us were spot on. I was already an LN by the time I began to seriously study the assassination but I wasn't a believer in the SBT and spent a few years trying to come up with an alternative. It was a fool's errand. The SBT was the only explanation that made sense given the available evidence.

I doubt I have changed many minds in the 35 years I've been involved in this hobby but maybe the few I have influenced have influenced a few others and so on. I'd like to think that at the very least I have given others something to think about even if they don't agree with me.

Interesting. Be sure to weigh in on the thread I just started about why anyone cares about the JFKA. I was 13 years and 8 months. Neither JFK nor the JFKA meant squat to me - or, as far as I could tell, to my parents who seemed to have no political leanings at all. The JFKA was just a few days off from school. I don't remember giving a thought to the murder of Oswald at the time. I actually felt much sadder when LBJ died, and my older sister said the same thing.

When I got back into the JFKA 15 or so years ago, I read almost everything Walt Brown had written (yes, including his million-word Chronology). He was 15 at the time. I was astonished at the level of his grief as a 15-year-old, which he stiull seemed to be carrying decades later.

It was very much different for me because of my circumstances. For one, JFK was the first president I felt a connection to. I was 8 years old when I first saw him on TV. That was the spring of 1960 and they were referring to him as the candidate. I was a bit confused because I couldn't figure out why a guy from Canada was running for President of the United States. I quickly got up to speed on the system and when I started fourth grade the following fall, everyone in my class seemed to have an interest, probably because I attended a Catholic school and all but two of my classmates were for JFK. We traded the little campaign buttons like trading cards. I followed JFK's presidency closely. I was in sixth grade during the Cuban Missile Crisis and that literally could have hit home. I lived in Omaha which was about 10 miles north of Offutt Airforce Base which was and is the Strategic Air Command worldwide headquarters. If the missiles started flying, we knew we were the center of the Soviet bullseye. We didn't even bother with duck and cover drills because those in charge knew we'd get hit with the biggest warhead(s) the Soviets could throw at us. JFK guided us through that crisis.

By the fall of 1963, there was a sense of bliss as far as national affairs were, at least to a 7th grader. The civil rights movement was not yet in full swing and we were just starting to hear about a little country in Asia called Vietnam. Then came the shocking announcement over our school loudspeaker. I can almost remember what our principle said, word for word. Math class was my first period after lunch and our teacher immediately turned on the radio she had in her room. It seemed like it was just minutes later that the radio announced JFK had died. It all seemed surreal. Everything that had seemed so right now felt so wrong. It was just a prelude for what was to come in the remainder of the decade. Civil unrest over the civil rights movement and Vietnam. Two more assassinations. I guess we'll never know how all of this would have played out if not for the actions of one very evil little man.