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The "data centers" and AI hoopla is just people being afraid of the unknown. If you fear this, then separate yourself from your cell phone. Certainly DO NOT attach your house heat/air to a cell phone. Buy yourself a "burner" and "break glass in case of fire" if need be. The landline remains.

Dear Stormtrooper Storing,

You have no idea what you're talking about.

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Today at 12:23:27 AM »
There is another way to corroborate a first shot around z222/z223 thanks to the work of Pat Speer and Mark Tyler. It concerns the witness statements of the occupants of the Vice-Presidential car and the Vice-Presidential follow-up car. From these statements it is possible to glean an approximate position for each car at the time of the first shot and from these approximate positions it is possible rule out various theories regarding the first shot.
I will look at a number of theories put forward for when the first shot occurred in relation to the Z-Film:

z133 (and before)
z160
z190
z223 (my own proposal for the first shot)

First, a look at the statements:

VICE PRESIDENTIAL CAR

Hurchel Jacks [Driver] -
"My car had just straightened up from making the left turn. I was looking directly at the President’s car at that time. At that time I heard a shot ring out..."

Rufus Youngblood [Passenger Seat] -
"The motorcade then made a left turn, and the sidewalk crowds
were beginning to diminish in size. I observed a grassy plot to my right in back of a small crowd...I heard an explosion…"

"As we were beginning to go down this incline, all of a sudden there was an explosive noise."
"We had straightened on Elm now and were beginning to move easily down the incline in the wake of the cars ahead. Suddenly there was an explosive noise..."

Senator Yarborough [back left] - 
“as the motorcade went down the slope of Elm Street toward the railroad underpass, a rifle shot was heard by me; a loud blast..."

Lady Bird Johnson [back centre] - 
“we were rounding a curve, going down a hill and suddenly there was a sharp loud report..."
"...suddenly in that brilliant sunshine there was a sharp rifle shot. It  came, I thought, from over my right shoulder."

Lyndon Johnson [back right] - 
"After we had proceeded a short way down Elm Street, I heard a sharp report."

VICE-PRESIDENTIAL FOLLOW-UP CAR

Joe Henry Rich [Driver] -
“We turned off of Houston Street onto Elm Street and that was when I heard the first shot."


Cliff Carter [passenger seat]  - 
"...our car had just made the left hand turn onto Elm and was right along side of the Texas School Book Depository Building when I heard a noise which sounded like a firecracker."

Jerry Kivett [back right] - 
"As the motorcade was approximately 1/3 the way to the underpass, traveling between 10 and 15 miles per hour, I heard a loud noise..."

Warren Taylor [back centre] -
“Our automobile had just turned a corner (the names of the streets are unknown to me) when I heard a bang which sounded to me like a possible firecracker —the sound coming from my right rear."

Thomas (Lem) Johns [back right] - 
"We turned onto Elm Street...We were going downhill...which put the Texas Book Depository on our right, more or less...But we were going down this Elm Street, with my door open. I heard at least two shots.."


10 witnesses in 2 vehicles all corroborating each others statements. Not one or two ambiguous statements open to any kind of interpretation. Every single occupant of both cars are stating, basically, the same thing - at the time of the first shot these cars had turned off Houston Street and were travelling down Elm.
I now turn to the work of Mark Tyler to compare how these statements support or refute the various theories put forward.

Z133



In the image above the Vice-Presidential car is marked 7 and the follow-up car 8. It is obvious from this image that both vehicles are still on Houston at the time of this proposed first shot and, as such, a shot around z133 (or before) is absolutely refuted by the 10 witness statements.

Z160



Again, we can clearly see that, although car 7 is well into it's turn, car 8 is still on Houston. The theory of a first shot around z160 is refuted.

Z190



It can be said that car 7 is now travelling down Elm but car 8 is still to complete the turn as specified by the occupants of this car and, as such, a shot around z190 is refuted by the witness statements.

Z223



My own proposal.
It can be seen from the above image that both cars are now travelling on Elm after having completed the turn off Houston. There can be no doubt that this is the only theory that comes anywhere close to fitting the witness statements of the 10 occupants of these vehicles.
Yet further corroboration, if any were needed, that the first shot was the one that struck JFK in the throat around z223.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Today at 12:18:57 AM »
On what basis do you determine that the evidence of Phil Willis (that his z202 photo was just after the first shot) and of Linda Willis (that JFK was between her and the Stemmons sign when the first shot occurred) is wrong?

(and surely you meant before z225 rather than z255).

(and surely you meant before z225 rather than z255).

??
Read the post.
z207 shows the three agents not showing any sign of the reactions they described regarding the first shot.
Altgens 6 shows the three agents reacting exactly as they described reacting to the first shot.
Altgens 6 is taken at z255.

Phil Willis was a salesman who was cashing in on JFK's death. He'd taken some average pics which he copyrighted in order to sell them through the company he'd specifically set up to cash in on the assassination - Phil Willis Enterprises.
He had the pics made into slides and gave them really grandiose titles to enhance their importance (and, therefore, their monetary value). Some of the titles are so over the top they're funny.
The camera was still held up to his face as the first shot rang out. He'd missed this pivotal historical moment by a second. So, why not massage reality a bit and insist he had actually caught the moment on camera, inflating the value of his pic. An excellent salesman startegy.
Willis had an ulterior motive for insisting he caught the moment of the assassination.

44 eyewitnesses described JFK reacting to the first shot as we see in the Z-film - hands flying up towards his throat, slumping to the left etc.
As I have demonstrated to you on numerous occasions, an analysis of JFK's left arm in the Z-film shows us the moment he begins reacting to being shot (z225 is the first frame we see the beginning of this reaction).
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   DAN - The Newman Family was on the ground to the (L) of the above light pole. Wiegman filmed the Newman Family while also standing on the (L) of this same light pole. How do you believe the Hatted figure/Wiegman? in the Bell still frame above, got to be on the (L) side of the light pole? He had to of moved (L) across the knoll. And, bear in mind that the Couch Film shows a figure/Wiegman? running STRAIGHT DOWN the knoll.

You posted this: To this day, NOBODY including Wiegman himself has EVER verified the figure we see running across the Knoll on the Bell Film is Wiegman

I am asking you a very simple question - can you point out the figure running across the knoll on the Bell film?


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Trump is not giving money to anyone.  I support his policies but he often thinks out loud with all sorts of ideas that never come to fruition.  Some of which are terrible.  I think it's entirely possible, however, that AI will create such efficiency and wealth that few may have to work in the near term future.  Not sure what the implications are from that but government policies that promote such efficiencies could result in rewarding citizens with such payments and services.  Maybe providing incentives to be good citizens including reducing crime and promoting art and education.  We are not forever limited to the capitalist vs socialist choices.  The opposition to data centers is futile.  There are legitimate concerns, but it is still coming for good or ill.  China and others are not going to hold back.  The US has no real choice.  Trump knows that.  It would not surprise me if the anti-data center campaign is even being funded by the Chinese.

     The above sounds like "Star Trek" (The Original Series). People were free to take their lives in whatever direction they wanted. Do nothing? Fine! Take on the "Kobayashi Maru"? Fine! What we are seeing is what you get from a POTUS that is consistently moving the country forward. And NOT having to concern himself with being re-elected.
     The "data centers" and AI hoopla is just people being afraid of the unknown. If you fear this, then separate yourself from your cell phone. Certainly DO NOT attach your house heat/air to a cell phone.  Buy yourself a "burner" and "break glass in case of fire" if need be. The landline remains.
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Enough to swing the election to a broken-down demented man named Biden.

Oodles and gobs?
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[...]

Dear Comrade Griffith,

Are you a KGB agent?

You sound like a KGB agent.

-- Tom
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The replies from WC defenders amount to this position:

"Never mind that no bullet fired from the sixth-floor window could have hit JFK's back at an upward angle and then passed through his neck at an upward angle. Never mind that this means no bullet from the sixth-floor window could have exited JFK's throat at a downward angle, much less at a 25-degree downward angle. Never mind that we therefore cannot get a bullet from JFK's throat to Connally's back in the first place, unless we're willing to rule out the sixth-floor window as the source of the shot. Just never mind these facts.

"We will continue to excuse ourselves from credibly dealing with these facts until you provide us with a non-SBT trajectory through Connally -- and the trajectory has to be one that we are willing to accept, but of course we will never accept any such trajectory because that would raise further doubt about the SBT.

"Moreover, we will continue to refuse to acknowledge the self-evident implications of the hard physical evidence of JFK's clothing, specifically, the fact that JFK's tie, including the tie knot, had no bullet hole through it, and that the nick on the tie knot was not on the edge of the knot but was visibly inward from the edge, because acknowledging the import of these facts would mean admitting that no bullet exited the throat. In the case of the SBT, we judge fact by theory, not the other way around."


We should keep in mind that the HSCA FPP's SBT does not merely require that JFK's head was tilted substantially forward but that his upper torso was tilted substantially forward as well, as Dr. Baden was nice enough to demonstrate.

As many here know, I am by no means the first researcher to note that the HSCA FPP's SBT is actually fatal to the SBT because no photo or footage shows JFK leaning so far forward during the SBT's timeframe. By acknowledging that the WC placed the back wound at least 2.5 inches too high and that the bullet hit and tunneled at an upward angle, the FPP actually destroyed the SBT. Dr. Wecht repeatedly made this point in his presentations on the SBT.

As I documented in a previous reply, both the NOVA and the Dale Myers SBT trajectory animations have JFK's upper torso virtually upright and have his head either upright (NOVA) or tilted only slightly forward (Myers), and they have the bullet traveling a downward path from the back wound to the throat wound.

And, of course, Lattimer's bogus SBT diagrams, which continue to be used by many WC apologists to this very day, show JFK sitting upright with his head upright, place the back wound visibly above the throat wound, show the bullet traveling downward through the neck, and show the bullet exiting the neck at a downward angle of at least 20 degrees.

No WC apologist has yet produced an SBT trajectory illustration that takes into account the forensic facts pointed out by the HSCA FPP regarding the back wound's upward trajectory, the upward trajectory through the neck, and the pronounced forward lean required to make that trajectory align with the sixth-floor window.

Indeed, even the NASA expert whom the HSCA hired to do their headshot and SBT trajectory analyses, Dr. Thomas Canning, simply ignored the HSCA FPP's diagram showing JFK's forward lean (7 HSCA 100, Figure 12) and instead showed JFK sitting virtually upright with his head virtually upright as well (2 HSCA 177, JFK Exhibit F-142). Incredibly, Canning also impossibly showed the back wound above the throat wound and showed the bullet exiting at a point visibly below JFK's throat wound.
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Trump is not giving money to anyone.  I support his policies but he often thinks out loud with all sorts of ideas that never come to fruition.  Some of which are terrible.  I think it's entirely possible, however, that AI will create such efficiency and wealth that few may have to work in the near term future.  Not sure what the implications are from that but government policies that promote such efficiencies could result in rewarding citizens with such payments and services.  Maybe providing incentives to be good citizens including reducing crime and promoting art and education.  We are not forever limited to the capitalist vs socialist choices.  The opposition to data centers is futile.  There are legitimate concerns, but it is still coming for good or ill.  China and others are not going to hold back.  The US has no real choice.  Trump knows that.  It would not surprise me if the anti-data center campaign is even being funded by the Chinese.

I suspect that MAGATS who were dismissive of the dangers of Covid are equally naive about the threat that the development of "superintelligent AI" poses mankind.   
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Israeli newspaper?  Would this mean Ruby was…………… the ‘M’ word ?

Oh Albert, do be careful with your findings, we don’t want to find you wandering aimlessly down Route 66 babbling something about Junior Jarman, do we ?  Zei gezunt.
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