This is a mix of your usual evasion, omission, and confusion, coupled with some downright silly stuff. I'm only going to bother answering some of the points.
And ignore the ones for which you have no rebuttal.
How would Newman's being in "close proximity" to the headshot have caused Newman to hear a bullet whiz by him from behind? Newman was 15 feet from the limo at Z313 and the limo was to his left front. So do tell me how a bullet traveling from the sixth-floor window and hitting JFK's head 15 feet away to Newman's left front would have caused him to hear a bullet whiz by him from behind. You realize that Newman was so certain that gunfire was coming from behind him that he dropped down to the ground, right?
Do you really think Newman could tell whether or not a bullet had whizzed past him? I don't doubt he could hear a bullet, probably the headshot. How could he tell if that bullet had gone past him or simply gone near him. We are talking about an event that would have lasted one or two MILLISECONDS? Are we supposed to believe he could lock in on where that bullet was in that brief a time span?
Oh, yes, Zapruder most certainly did categorically tell the SS that the gunman was positioned behind him. He expressed no qualification or uncertainty whatsoever, nor did he say that this was merely his "impression." He only started to waffle about the gunman's location later on.
Why is it you never quote the people you cite but instead choose to put your spin on what they said. Let me show you how you quote someone. First, you find the source for the person you have quoted. In this case, I am quoting Zapruder's WC testimony from this webpage:
https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/zapruder.htmThen you find the passage you want to quote and highlight it. On my laptop, the passage will turn to blue. Then you right click it and select COPY from the pull down menu. Then you go to where you are typing your post and type in a double quotation mark and right click again. Then you select PASTE from the pull down menu and OUILA! The passage you want to quote appears after the quotation mark. Then you type in another quotation mark to close the quote, and it looks something like this:
"Mr. LIEBELER - Did you have any impression as to the direction from which these shots came?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - No, I also thought it came from back of me. Of course, you can't tell when something is in line it could come from anywhere, but being I was here and he was hit on this line and he was hit right in the head--I saw it right around here, so it looked like it came from here and it could come from there."
That doesn't sound to me like Zapruder was categorically saying the gunman was behind him.
So three cars doing an obvious recon in the parking lot behind the knoll in the 25 minutes leading up to the shooting, after the area had been sealed off by police, and with one of the drivers talking into a microphone -- nah, that's not suspicious at all, huh? Yeah, okay. You'll never admit anything if it contradicts the lone-gunman myth.
You do this all the time. You claim that those cars patrolling the parking lot were suspicious and then shift the burden to me to disprove it was suspicious. If you think these cars had a sinister motive, the burden is on you to establish that, but since you have no evidence, you simply assume something you can't prove. You also lack the common sense to ask yourself a very simply question. If that parking lot had been sealed off as you claim, the only way those cars could have gotten in is if the people guarding the entrance let them in which would indicate they had clearance to enter. It is not surprising they would want to do several checks of that area to make sure someone hadn't entered that parking lot covertly. But that explanation is too boring for you typical CT. They want to assume every unexplained event has sinister connotations.
Show me where in Lee Bowers' WC testimony he said he did not see a gunman behind the fence. Give me the page number. His testimony is in 6 H 284-289. Where does he say he didn't see a gunman behind the fence?
The pages are not numbered. The source of this quote is:
https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/bowers.htmThis is how Bowers described the shooting:
"Mr. BALL - When you heard the sound, which way were you looking?
Mr. BOWERS - At the moment I heard the sound, I was looking directly towards the area---at the moment of the first shot, as close as my recollection serves, the car was out of sight behind this decorative masonry wall in the area.
Mr. BALL - And when you heard the second and third shot, could you see the car?
Mr. BOWERS - No; at the moment of the shots, I could---I do not think that it was in sight. It came in sight immediately following the last shot.
Mr. BALL - Did you see any activity in this high ground above El after the shot?
Mr. BOWERS - At the time of the shooting there seemed to be some commotion, and immediately following there was a motorcycle policeman who shot nearly all of the way to the top of the incline."
BTW, do you know who Walter Rischel and James Sterling were? They were friends of Lee Bowers. Sterling gave a statement to New Orleans DA investigator Gary Sanders that Bowers told him that after the shots were fired, he saw two men running from behind the fence, that they ran up to a car, threw something in the trunk, jumped in the car, and drove off. Rischel stated in a filmed interview that Bowers did not tell the WC everything he saw. Also, Bowers' wife told journalist Penn Jones, on the record, that Bowers was warned "not to talk."
Nice of you to fill us in on the rumors. Once again, you fail to provide a quote except for a three word phrase taken out of context. WTG!!!
Of course you denounce Ed Hoffman, but we both know you have not read any of the research that supports Hoffman's account and veracity. This is typical of your blind bias and automatic and uninformed rejection of any and all evidence that you don't like.
The fact you would cite Ed Hoffman reveals how desperate you are to make a case for a gunman on the GK. It also tells everyone that you aren't somebody who should be taken seriously.
Your comments about Charles Whitman's rifle skills and your attempt to infer from them that Oswald could have performed the alleged lone-gunman shooting feat are truly hilarious, not to mention discrediting.
How so? Do you think those 2 extra points Whitman scored above what Oswald did indicated he was a vastly superior marksman? Do you think someone who ONLY scored 212 in USMC would be incapable of shooting a man twice in three shots from ranges of 88 yards or less but someone with a score of 214 would be more than capable of killing 11 people and wounding 34 more from a height more than twice what Oswald was at and at far greater distances? One of Whitman's kill shots was estimated to be from 500 yards.
If I could read minds, I would genuinely be curious to know how you rationalize in your own mind the fact (1) that none of the WC's three Master-rated riflemen even came close to duplicating Oswald's alleged shooting feat, even though they were firing from only 30 feet up and were shooting at stationary target boards, and (2) that out of the 12 riflemen in the 1967 CBS rifle test, all of whom were experienced riflemen and six of whom were experts, only one of them (one of the experts) seemingly duplicated the supposed shooting feat and only because the test counted as "hits" shots that landed well outside the target area that Oswald allegedly hit (the test actually tripled the size of the target area).
The CBS marksman were expected to fire three shots in 5.6 seconds or less. Oswald was under no such constraint. The fact is the only two recovered bullets from the shooting were positively matched to the rifle found on the 6th floor. Oswald's rifle. With fibers matching the shirt he was wearing on the butt plate of the rifle. That indicates somebody performed the shooting feat from the sniper's nest and there is plenty of evidence that indicates that somebody was Oswald. That makes it rather silly to claim that neither Oswald nor his rifle were good enough to have made those shots.
Yes, there most certainly is hard evidence of a gunman on the grassy knoll: the HSCA's scientific acoustical identification of a shot fired from the knoll, the puff of smoke visible in the Wiegman film near the same area where six witnesses said they saw gun smoke, the optical-density measurements that prove the skull x-rays indicate missing occipital bone, the identification by several medical experts of an entry wound in the right temple on the skull x-rays, mortician Tom Robinson's description of a small wound in the right temple (he examined it and filled it with wax to keep it from leaking), the Harper fragment, and the powerful spraying of blood and brain matter backward onto the two left-riding patrolmen and the follow-up car.
Missing occipital bone is not hard evidence of a shot from the GK. The upper right side of JFK's skull was blown out, mostly parietal bone but also involved the occipital and temporal regions. Frame Z313 indicates the spray of blood and brain from JFK's head went forward and upward, a fact you simply want to ignore, just as you ignore the fact the motorcycle escorts were moving forward drove through that red cloud. There was a small amount of discharge to the rear but most of it went forward.
One, a number of the witnesses who said they heard gunfire from the grassy knoll also said they heard gunfire from the TSBD as well.
Only a handful of witnesses thought the shots came from more than one place. Most witnesses thought it was one or the other.
Two, the powerful sound-wave reverberations from the knoll's pergola alone could have easily caused some witnesses to believe that two or three shots were fired from the knoll.
Do you not think Oswald's shots from the sniper's nest could have reverberated and caused people to believe two or three shots were fired from the knoll?
Finally, I have yet to see you deal with the fact that even after introducing two brazen errors into their recalculation of the probability of the grassy knoll shot, the NRC/NAS panel was still only able to reduce the probability to 77.7%. No one denies the panel's two severe errors, and subsequent research has shown that the probability of the grassy knoll shot is actually virtually 100% (vs. the Weiss-Aschkenasy calculation of "95% or higher").
When statistics experts describe a probability of 77.7%, they use such terms as "likely" and "probable," whereas they describe a probability of 60% as "moderately likely" and "moderately probable." A probability of 77.7% is only 2.3 percentage points from qualifying as "highly likely" in a probability perception scale (https://waf.cs.illinois.edu/visualizations/Perception-of-Probability-Words/).
A "95%" probability is considered to mean "almost certain." Legal sources note that a 95% probability is often estimated by judges and legal experts to match the threshold of "beyond a reasonable doubt," as Dr. Weiss noted in his HSCA testimony. And, again, subsequent research has found that the grassy knoll shot's probability is actually virtually 100%, like 98% and above.
President Hillary Clinton could tell you about the value of assumed probabilities.
Junk science is still junk science. They can claim all the probabilities they choose. It doesn't make their conclusions more compelling. You try to make it sound like there is a consensus that the acoustic evidence was a recording of the actual shooting. Below is a summary of the dissenters:
Reasons for Doubting the Acoustic Evidence of a Grassy Knoll Shot
Several independent scientific reviews and later analyses have raised serious doubts about the conclusion that the Dallas Police Department dictabelt recording contained a gunshot from the grassy knoll.
1. Timing and simultaneity issues
The National Research Council’s Committee on Ballistic Acoustics found that the putative gunshot impulses on the dictabelt were recorded about one minute after the actual shooting, not contemporaneously
. If the impulses were not captured at the same time as the shots, they could not reliably indicate where the shots originated.
2. Methodological limitations
The original Bolt, Beranek & Newman (BBN) and Weiss & Aschkenasy analyses relied on echo-correlation and acoustic modeling that compared dictabelt impulses to test shots fired in Dealey Plaza
. Critics noted that these methods assumed ideal conditions (e.g., perfect microphone placement, no background noise) that were not met in reality, and that the statistical confidence levels (e.g., “95% probability”) were based on models rather than direct forensic measurement
3. Recording and transmission problems
The dictabelt was a routine police radio recording, not set up to capture gunfire. A motorcycle on channel I had a defective microphone button that caused continuous transmission for several minutes, potentially distorting or masking sounds
. This raised questions about whether the recorded impulses were genuine gunshot signatures or artifacts.
4. Lack of corroborating evidence
No other physical or eyewitness evidence confirmed a second shooter from the grassy knoll. The acoustic conclusion was the sole “scientific” basis for the HSCA’s conspiracy finding, and later reviews found no independent verification of the claimed impulses
5. Replication and peer review disputes
The National Academy of Sciences and other peer-reviewed studies concluded the original findings were not supported by the data, while some later researchers (e.g., Donald B. Thomas) disputed the timing critique and defended the original results
. This split in the expert community reflects unresolved methodological and interpretive disagreements.
In summary:
Doubts center on the recording’s reliability, the timing of the impulses, the assumptions in the acoustic models, and the absence of corroborating evidence. These issues led the National Research Council and other independent bodies to question whether the acoustic evidence could validly establish a shot from the grassy knoll