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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Education Forum Goes Off the Rails
« Last post by Lance Payette on Today at 01:34:34 AM »
The Ed Forum is once again offline, although it certainly appears from the discussions that they anticipate being able to salvage it ("salvage" being the operative term when what you are saving is a wreck  :D). James Gordon is my new hero for all the trouble he has managed to cause. If they would simply say "Absolutely no more references to non-JFKA topics, specifically 9/11," they would improve things by 97% - and Niederwacky would banned the first day, which would improve things an additional 2.9%.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Few of the Problems with the Case Against Oswald
« Last post by Lance Payette on Today at 01:28:43 AM »
Gee, where are MTG and all the MTG lemmings? This is why taking on MTG and the lemmings ain't worth the effort. They don't miss a beat. They just move on to the next factoid. He'll be citing "FBI agent" O'Toole tomorrow and the next day.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Today at 12:22:08 AM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 04:10:43 PM
David Von Pein's website does the best examination of the single bullet theory I have seen.


This particular one shows the simultaneous upward arm movements of JFK and JBC from Z225 to Z226. This isn't the moment they were shot. It was the moment they reacted. The bullet would have struck a few frames earlier. Pinpointing it is difficult because of the relatively low number of frames per second in the Z-film and that JBC was out of view until Z222. The jiggle analysis indicates the shot was likely fired in the Z219-220 time frame which would mean the bullet struck in the Z221-222 time frame. That was followed by the bulging of JBC's jacket at Z224 which also was not simultaneous with the bullet strike.

The shot actually passed through both men at z222/223.
I wonder what someone like Benjamin Cole has to say about all this?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Zeon Mason on Today at 12:20:36 AM »
I’m still with the Z224 being a bullet that hit JC. But I’m not at all sure about the wrist wound occurring at that point because of the odd position JC would have to be in holding his hat upside down with his right hand over the top of his left leg such that the bullet could go thru the top of  his right hand at the wrist, exit the base of the palm and into his left inner thigh without having gone thru the hat.

CE399 had no damage deformation to the nose of the bullet and it was only slightly deformed. It had a very dubious chain of custody and much confusion about where it was found and what the bullet looked like (pointed vs ball nosed)

The conventional LN explanation for no  damage to the nose of the bullet is  because it was spinning end over end as it entered  the top of JCs  right hand and it struck  the wrist bone backwards. Thus only lead and no copper traces left in the wrist.

Whether the bullet went thru nose first or end first, there should have been some small trace of copper metal left in the hand along with the small traces  of lead.

Since only apparently trace amounts of lead ( flakes) were left in the wrist then an alternative explanation. must be that the wrist was struck by a lead fragment rather than a whole intact FMJ bullet.

The 2 alternative (LN) possibilities:

A. Andrew Masons Z270 shot where the bullet that skews thru JCs chest and rib cage at the more severe angle fragmented the bullet and some  lead was sheared off and went thru JCs right hand as it was up against his chest holding the hat.

B. The SBT modified such that a Z313  fragment  went thru JCs right hand while he leaned back into Mrs.C.

If neither of the above nor the conventional  SBT are satisfactory then IDK   ???

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 11:22:09 PM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 10:48:18 PM
TDS! TDS! TDS!

"TDS! TDS! TDS!" -- the lame sound of a zombified-by-KGB-disinformation Trump supporter -- not unlike the hissing of a large carrion-eating possum.

You've never even heard of Sun Tzu, have you, Corbett, much less Department D in the First Chief Directorate and Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Undeniable Proof of Fraud: The Impossible JFK Autopsy Brain Photos
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 10:58:43 PM »
MTG seems to be a proponent of the adage, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS".

He thinks what his posts lack in quality, he can make up for with quantity. In 35 years, I've never come across anyone else you could shovel such voluminous amounts of BS. Refuting his nonsense could become a full time job.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Undeniable Proof of Fraud: The Impossible JFK Autopsy Brain Photos
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 10:52:59 PM »
Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on Yesterday at 08:21:02 PM
I see you're getting angrier and angrier about being pressed to stop ducking and dodging and about being asked to give genuine, credible answers to the straightforward, fact-based questions I've repeatedly posed to you.


I'm relieved you don't find my answers credible. I'd start to question myself if you did. I'd hate to find out we think alike.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 10:48:18 PM »
TDS! TDS! TDS!
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 09:47:50 PM »
Question: Why did Vladimir Putin install Donald Trump (who was "spotted" by the KGB as a possible asset in Manhattan in 1980) as our president on 20 January 2017?

Answer: To get us to defeat ourselves in a Sun Tzu-kinda way.

It was the culmination of fifty-eight years of disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us by Departments D and 14 of the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB), respectively.

The FCD and the SCD -- the same folks whose article in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper in March 1967 motivated overly ambitious, scandal-plagued, and revengeful Jim Garrison to change his theory against Clay Shaw from "He masterminded the homosexual thrill-kill assassination!!!" to "He organized it for the CIA!!!", which in turn let to Garrison's lie-filled book, "On the Trail of the Assassins" and Comrade Oliver Stone's self-described mythological ("to counter the myth of the Warren Report") 1991 movie, "JFK."
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Few of the Problems with the Case Against Oswald
« Last post by Lance Payette on Yesterday at 09:28:03 PM »
O'Toole was closely affiliated with the CT-oriented Committee to Investigate Assassinations. At the Committee's conference in 1973, he was falsely billed as "Former CIA Agent." From the CIA itself, "He was employed as a Digital Computer Systems Analyst in March 1966. He resigned 24 January 1969 from a position as a Research Officer, GS-14, ORD/DDS&T" (Office of Research and Development, Directorate of Science and Technology").

You will also see O'Toole referred to as "chief of the CIA problem analysis branch" and "former CIA bureau chief," which he was not.

And on it goes.
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