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Back for a second for bit of fun;

You posted this, right;

I didn't know how to post images on this forum, but I've had some help, so here is the evidence that you said didn't exist.



 

Consider yourself schooled!

OK. I was wrong. You didn't make this up. You just lied about it. Earlier, you stated:

"The fact remains that Frazier passed the test and that was enough to cause massive panic by Lt Day"

Please point out anything in either document you posted that Day exhibited "massive panic". Sounds like Day's reaction was rather matter of fact.
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Back for a second for bit of fun;

You posted this, right;


You are the last person I would want schooling me. You are at the head of the dunce class.It's not my homework. It's yours. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You obviously can't meet that burden so you try to shift it to me. Why would I search for something that you made up out if thin air. If you had a source for this story, you would have no trouble providing it but you won't because you can't.Why do you keep lying. I've provided solid evidence for everything I've stated. The fact you refuse to accept the evidence is a reflection on you, not me.If these reports actually existed, you would have no trouble providing them.


I didn't know how to post images on this forum, but I've had some help, so here is the evidence that you said didn't exist.



 

Consider yourself schooled!
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It has been stated a number of times on in this thread and others that Oswald's palm print was on the middle of the paper bag found in the sniper's nest. That didn't sound right to me but because I hadn't dealt directly with this issue in at least five years, I left that claim go unchallenged. After going to the WCR to check it out, I find that my memory was correct. The palm print was on the bottom of the bag.

From page 135 of the WCR:
"Oswald's fingerprint and palmprint found on bag.--Using a standard chemical method involving silver nitrates 180 the FBI Laboratory developed a latent palmprint and latent fingerprint on the bag. (See app. X, p. 565.) Sebastian F. Latona, supervisor of the FBI's Latent Fingerprint Section, identified these prints as the left index fingerprint and right palmprint of Lee Harvey Oswald.181 The portion of the palm which was identified was the heel of the right palm, i.e., the area near the wrist, on the little finger side.182 These prints were examined independently by Ronald G. Wittmus of the FBI,183 and by Arthur Mandella, a fingerprint expert with the New York City Police Department. 184 Both concluded that the prints were the right palm and left index finger of Lee Oswald. No other identifiable prints were found on the bag.185

Oswald's palmprint on the bottom of the paper bag indicated, of course, that he had handled the bag. Furthermore, it was consistent with the bag having contained a heavy or bulky object when he handled it since a light object is usually held by the fingers.186 The palmprint was found on the closed end of the bag. It was from Oswald's right hand, in which he carried the long package as he walked from Frazier's car to the building.187"

The palm print at the bottom of the bag is consistent with the way Frazier said Oswald carried the bag, cupped in his right hand. In providing this cite, I have done something Martin Wiedmann has consistently refused to do. I have provided corroboration for a portion of Frazier's statement regarding how Oswald carried the bag. Frazier's description of how Oswald carred the bag was half right. That's more than we can say for Marty.
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I accept your surrender.

And I expected your pathetic comment, JM
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If you want me to reply to this mess, clean up the post.

On second thought don't even bother. I am not wasting my time in going over the same lies and assumptions every time.

All this constant BS about "logical inference" when it is in fact a mere assumption, the BS about "matching" fibers, the idiotic conclusions based on "common sense" claims and massive lies, like that the paper bag was not folded up when it was found (when the WC actually said it was) and your bogus claim that I consider the polygraph as evidence that Frazier accurately recalled the length of the package (when in fact he told to truth about how he saw Oswald carry in the cup of his hand and under his armpit) is more enough for me to conclude that you are a complete idiot who couldn't tell the truth if it saved his life. We're done.

I accept your surrender.
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This is where you're confused.  I'm not the one picking and choosing.  I'm willing to throw out everything Whaley says about what Oswald was wearing inside his cab.  YOU are the one insisting Oswald was wearing a jacket inside the cab.

Another reason to doubt Oswald was wearing a jacket post-assassination is that his former landlady spotted him on Cecil McWatters bus shortly after the assassination. She described a hole Oswald had in the elbow of a shirt, a whole that was present in the shirt Oswald was wearing when arrested. Bledsoe could not have seen that hole if Oswald was wearing a jacket.

"Having considered the probabilities as explained in Stombaugh's testimony, the Commission has concluded that the fibers in the tuft on the rifle most probably came from the shirt worn by Oswald when he was arrested, and that this was the same shirt which Oswald wore on the morning of the assassination. Marina Oswald testified that she thought her husband wore this shirt to work on that day. The testimony of those who saw him after the assassination was inconclusive about the color of Oswald's shirt,72 but Mary Bledsoe, a former landlady of Oswald, saw him on a bus approximately 10 minutes after the assassination and identified the shirt as being the one worn by Oswald primarily because of a distinctive hole in the shirt's right elbow. 73 Moreover, the bus transfer which he obtained as he left. the bus was still in the pocket when he was arrested.74 Although Oswald returned to his roominghouse after the assassination and when questioned by the police, claimed to have changed his shirt,75 the evidence indicates that he continued wearing the same shirt which he was wearing all morning and which he was still wearing when arrested."

From pages 124-125 of the Warren Commission Report.

Note to Martin Wiedmann:
This is how one provides a cite to support a statement one has made. I realize it's not possible for you to do this when you have just made something up out of thin air.
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I was wondering when the childish crap would start. I obviously expected it as it is usually at the moment when you get stuck.

Old school LN temper tantrums are still around.... Hilarious!
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You simply don't get it.  I posted an image of both affidavits, with no commentary; just the images, nothing more.  YOU then challenged their authenticity.  Then we went from there.  Perhaps you should scroll back and have a look.

As for the documents being fake, as you claim... I completely disagree.  Like I told you before, the simple fact that the affidavits say "Erwin" (instead of Irving) should tell you that someone was transcribing as they were listening to Frazier speak with that unmistakable accent of his (as opposed to someone simply typing in the word "Erwin" for some other reason which makes no sense).  You don't display the ability to think logically.  That's your biggest problem.

Some things never change.

Perhaps you should scroll back and have a look.

I did. That's why I know there was no reason to bring up eating pizza with Frazier. Oh wait, perhaps a completely failed appeal to authority?

As for the documents being fake, as you claim... I completely disagree.

Of course you do. A LN will always accept anything that supports his narrative regardless if it is authentic evidence or not.

Like I told you before, the simple fact that the affidavits say "Erwin" (instead of Irving) should tell you that someone was transcribing as they were listening to Frazier speak

No. You just made that up. There isn't a notary that would accept such a mistake.

You don't display the ability to think logically.  That's your biggest problem.

Let me guess, you consider it to be completely logical to use documents from, off all places, Ridley's. Not to mention that they don't have the usual form of an affidavit (you have seen enough real ones to know this) and not to mention that Frazier's signature is completely different.

I think my biggest problem is that I am talking to a dumbass who thinks he is thinking logically!
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But no worries, Bill... It's not the first time you've run away from a simple question.  Thumb1:

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I'm not trying to avoid any discussion on Earlene Roberts.  Unlike you, I do not wish to argue over things just for the sake of arguing.  We've discussed Roberts a million times.  Maybe a week from now I'll want to argue with you some more.  Right now?  No interest.  I've made my points.

I was asking you why Roberts was so damned special. I did not ask you to argue about it.

But no worries, Bill... It's not the first time you've run away from a simple question.  Thumb1:

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