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Correct me if I'm wrong. The umbrella he had after 15 years (yeah right) was not the same one that pictures show in DP.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Tippit Myth
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 10:10:42 PM »
What "evil Deep State bad guys" are you talking about, precisely?

the planting of evidence

Are you claiming evidence was planted?

the altering of all of the photos, films, and X-rays, and the all-important (and evidently ongoing!) cover up?

Are you claiming there was evidence alteration and a cover up?

Btw, can you name me one truly independent investigation which looked beyond the evidence of the prosecution and looked for evidence that should have been there but wasn't?

Or are you just still trolling?

Dear Marty,

The vast majority of KGB-influenced tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorists are adamant that Oswald was "patsied," that there was more than one shooter, that evidence was planted, that photos, films and X-rays were altered, and that the "coverup" is continuing!

Aren't you?

-- Tom
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  I am not making anything up. Witt testified that he was sitting on the knoll. He was surprised when he saw the JFK Limo coming down Elm St. He got up and then walked directly toward Elm St while simultaneously struggling to open his umbrella. This is in contrast to the Bronson Film showing Umbrella Man standing dead still near the Stemmons sign as the JFK Limo travels down Elm St. The kicker here is that the Bronson Film was not public knowledge at the time of Witt's HSCA testimony. This is why Witt was able to spin his yarn with the added Kabuki Theater/Collapsing Umbrella and not be challenged. If Witt's story is true, then the Bronson Film is Bogus. If the Bronson Film is legit, then Witt is a fraud. This is clear.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

For how many seconds before the Z-313 shot was Witt continuously captured on film?

How do you know that he didn't misspeak when he said "simultaneously"?

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Tippit Myth
« Last post by Martin Weidmann on Yesterday at 09:55:16 PM »
Dear Marty,

Regarding the JFKA (the Tippit shooting included), how many evil, evil Deep State bad guys do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the patsy-ing, the planting of evidence, the shooting, the getting away, the altering of all of the photos, films, and X-rays, and the all-important (and evidently ongoing!) cover up?

Oodles and gobs, or just a few?

-- Tom

What "evil Deep State bad guys" are you talking about, precisely?

the planting of evidence

Are you claiming evidence was planted?

the altering of all of the photos, films, and X-rays, and the all-important (and evidently ongoing!) cover up?

Are you claiming there was evidence alteration and a cover up?

Btw, can you name me one truly independent investigation which looked beyond the evidence of the prosecution and looked for evidence that should have been there but wasn't?

Or are you just still trolling?


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Conspiracy hobbyists have been waiting for that straw for 62 years and are still grasping.

I have no idea why Gerald Ford wanted that change. It made no sense. The geometry of the wounds caused by the single bullet worked perfectly fine with an entry wound on the upper back. IOW, it was an act of stupidity.

Does the small circle drawn on JFK's back jibe with the measurements written on the same document?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Tippit Myth
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 09:47:36 PM »
Oh boy, there is the appeal to authority. You do understand that's a fallacy, right?

Please tell me which ones of those panels were unbiased and independent?

And here's something for you to consider; The Warren Commission provided the evidence which was subsequently examined over and over again.
Isn't it a fool's errand to examine the same information and expect a different outcome?

Name me one truly independent investigation which looked beyond the evidence of the prosecution and looked for evidence that should have been there but wasn't! I bet you can't

Dear Marty,

Regarding the JFKA (the Tippit shooting included), how many evil, evil Deep State bad guys do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the patsy-ing, the planting of evidence, the shooting, the getting away, the altering of all of the photos, films, and X-rays, and the all-important (and evidently ongoing!) cover up?

Oodles and gobs, or just a few?

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Tippit Myth
« Last post by Martin Weidmann on Yesterday at 09:30:30 PM »
How about the fact that multiple expert panels have examined the evidence and overwhelmingly concluded that Oswald was the lone assassin?

Oh boy, there is the appeal to authority. You do understand that's a fallacy, right?

Please tell me which ones of those panels were unbiased and independent?

And here's something for you to consider; The Warren Commission provided the evidence which was subsequently examined over and over again.
Isn't it a fool's errand to examine the same information and expect a different outcome?

Name me one truly independent investigation which looked beyond the evidence of the prosecution and looked for evidence that should have been there but wasn't! I bet you can't
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Scurrilous, defamatory lies about forum staff members are not protected speech on our forum.

As for the Bob Marley avatar guy here, what sort of Marley fan defends the lying military-industrial complex?

I've performed some Bob Marley songs, myself, over the years.

"Is there a place for the hopeless sinner who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"  8)

I'm not playing your stupid games. Nobody here is interested in your 9/11 demolition baloney or your personal vendettas against members of a different forum. You wanna take action against someone for "defamation" or whatever you called it? Great. Go hire an attorney and leave the rest of us alone.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Tippit Myth
« Last post by Tommy Shanks on Yesterday at 09:22:14 PM »
So, what makes your belief the right one?

How about the fact that multiple expert panels have examined the evidence and overwhelmingly concluded that Oswald was the lone assassin?
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