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Iler just posted instructions on how to use the ignore function on The Education Forum...No credible research forum puts the ignore feature above good content and oversight...If you are smart you will realize Iler is just creating the grounds for establishment of the clique...In this context the ignore feature Iler is promoting is similar to how the forum is dealing with the Prayer Man evidence...This is censorship and ignoring of correct evidence under the color of site administration...You are looking at the "correction" of the site they promised here...And, if you noticed, the thread is locked to any member input towards this edict...That is exactly what it looks like...Cheap sh*t researchers putting people on ignore instead of surviving by good practices and their own good wits...They are the kind of people who slander you on their podcasts and then deny you the right to respond...The clique in pure form...

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 07:29:08 PM »
A lot of people were there in Dealey Plaza, and they gave different versions of what happened. Some of them have to be wrong because they can't all be right. You [Andrew Mason] have never understood that.

Good point!

(I corrected your typo for you.)
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 07:20:37 PM »
Agents are moving their heads all the time. Their job requires it. You are imagining a turn by Rosemary Willis that is not apparent. She had to move her head to watch out to see where she was going and look at the motorcade.

JFK, Jackie, JBC and Nellie moved their heads to acknowledge the crowd.  Mary Woodward and her friends shouted to the President as he was approaching their position and he and Jackie turned and smiled and waved at them as they passed by. And then there was a “horrible ear shattering noise” followed by two quicker shots. She said she and her friends were the last people he acknowledged.

Just to take one example from your litany of lame rationalizations, you say "Jackie moved [turned, to be more precise] her head [to her left starting at Z-145] to acknowledge the crowd."

Rhetorical question: Is that why she had a concerned look on her face as she was looking directly at Robert Croft in his well-known Z-161 photograph?

Seems like a strange way to "acknowledge the crowd."

(Was Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman turned so far to his right in the Croft photo to "acknowledge the crowd," or to "keep an eye on them xxxxxxx"?)


By the way, you never gave a rational answer to my question:

Why did Secret Service Agent George Hickey lean so far over the side of the car, and when did he begin that motion?


Answers:

Hickey began his conscious response to Oswald's first missing-everything "Z-124" shot by Z-146.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z146.jpg


He maxed out in Z-157

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z157.jpg

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The print of Altgens 6 in Groden's book is a good-quality print.

If there's no damage in the area identified by Weldon and many others, why were two subsequent reproductions of Altgens 6 altered to obscure that area, one by a diagonal line and the other by bleaching out the area altogether? Why alter the photo in the very area identified as showing a hole and/or damage if there's nothing there?

Why do you assume anyone tried to obscure anything?
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Well, again, I can't force you to admit seeing what you don't want to admit seeing.

Says the guy who sees a bullet hole where none exists.
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It's been some time, but I saw high-quality enlargements of the suspect area in Altgens 6, and I could see damage there. A long list of other researchers can see damage there, but you say you don't see it.

You and a few other kooks are the only ones who do.
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You are a genuine quack on this issue.

Irony alert.
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I answered every one of these arguments in the thread on the backyard rifle photos, but here you are repeating them again as if they're still valid.

They are. Your silly counterpoints are not.
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The HSCA PEP was talking about the movement of the camera "in the real world" when the photos were allegedly taken. Do you not understand this?

As I asked you before, if the HSCA PEP found "massive parallax" between the backgrounds of the two backyard photos, why did they report that their photogrammetric measurements found that the camera moved only “slightly to the left” and only “slightly downward” between exposures, and that the camera’s vertical movement was “very small” (6 HSCA 178-179; 2 HSCA 416)?

Again, the PEP's ultimate aim was to determine if the camera moved "in the real world" between each exposure of the film, and they found that it moved only "slightly to the left" and "slightly downward," that its vertical movement was "very small." And, again, they didn't even measure to determine if the camera moved angularly. Why not?

And, no, the backyard photos they analyzed (133-A and 133-B) are not "tiny photos." I debunked this falsehood in the backyard rifle photos thread, but you just keep repeating it. Here's what I pointed out to you about your "tiny photos" claim:

"Tiny photos"? Huh? The HSCA PEP admitted that 133-A DeM, which is much clearer than 133-A, was “probably made in a high quality enlarger with a high quality lens” because of its higher resolution (6 HSCA 148). The PEP was able to make large high-quality prints with 133-A DeM.

Remember? Do you ever wonder why the PEP never described 133-A and 133-B as "tiny photos"?

The distances between background objects were so small that they could only be detected via “computer-assisted photographic evaluation” and “examination under magnification with magnifiers and microscopes” (2 HSCA 398, 405). This wasn't because the photos were "tiny," but because the background differences themselves were extremely small.

This is not a bit surprising, since the PEP determined from these measurements that the camera moved only "slightly" to the left and down. If the photos had been taken in the manner claimed by the official story, the camera movement would have been far, far greater.

One of your comments deserves special attention:

This comment is further proof that you have no clue what you're talking about and are trying to bluff and bluster your way through. I guess the PEP experts must have been retarded, because they didn't even measure for angular movement, but only for the camera's horizontal and vertical position.

You haven't "proved" anything about the camera's upward tilt. Your goofy graphics are not proof of anything. To determine the camera's angular movement, you would need to do more photogrammetric measurements, not just measurements designed to detect a change in the camera's horizonal or vertical position.

Yes, your graphics are indeed goofy. You talk like you really don't understand what the PEP experts said or did.

Folks, compare John Mytton's comments with my article "The HSCA and Fraud in the Backyard Rifle Photos."

It's truly amazing how one man could believe in so many myths.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 06:53:27 PM »
Why are those the only two possibilities?  His job was to watch the crowd.  To see the crowd ahead he had to look out around the two agents on the running boards.

You are saying Altgens was wrong.  He was there. You weren’t.

A lot of people were there and they gave different versions of what happened and some of them have to be wrong because they can't all be right. You've never understood that.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 06:50:51 PM »
Agents are moving their heads all the time. Their job requires it. You are imagining a turn by Rosemary Willis that is not apparent. She had to move her head to watch out to see where she was going and look at the motorcade.

JFK, Jackie, JBC and Nellie moved their heads to acknowledge the crowd.  Mary Woodward and her friends shouted to the President as he was approaching their position and he and Jackie turned and smiled and waved at them as they passed by. And then there was a “horrible ear shattering noise” followed by two quicker shots. She said she and her friends were the last people he acknowledged.

You continue to allow witnesses to lead you astray. There's no hope for you.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Things I don't care about
« Last post by Tom Scully on Yesterday at 06:40:37 PM »
From what I've read (the Carpenter and Litwin books et cetera), Shaw was assigned to the SOS in the war not the OSS. The SOS was Service of Supply. He was a supply officer who, among other duties, was assigned to help stockpile supplies for the Normandy Invasion; he was not an intelligence officer. According to his military records he was stationed in England, France and Belgium during the war. He was never in Italy.

Roughly ~24,000 people worked for the OSS during the war. Including the famous chef Julia Child (her maiden name was McWilliams).

Here is a list of those people: https://www.archives.gov/files/iwg/declassified-records/rg-226-oss/personnel-database.pdf

Shaw is not on the list.

And, for kicks, here is Julia Child's file. She was a typist and administrative assistant during her service and was paid $2980 each year (she was not a "spy"): https://catalog.archives.go v/medialive/61/1806/2180661/content/arcmedia/oss/McWilliams_Child_Julia.pdf

Carpenter's research discredits Litwin, so what you took away from reading Carpenter's book were only the points that confirmed your bias.
Seeking to confirm my independent research results in early 2016,

April 12, 2016 (Archived, it takes a minute to load in your browser)

https://web.archive.org/web/20161229152232/https://jfkfacts.org/provocative-prolific-joan-mellen/#comment-869223#comment-869223

....that the publicly presented, "divide" between Garrison and Shaw could have been
settled  at a Sunday dinner table gathering of Garrison and his wife's first cousin David Baldwin, and his Lemann in-laws
,  The only source I found
that confirmed my research was in Carpenter's book.


Fred, by including images of Nicholas Lemann's GQ article, https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/gq-magazine-the-case-against-jim-garrison
exactly timed by GQ editors, and Lemann, to arrive on news stands coinciding with the release of Oliver Stone's film, in Fred's presentation
without disclosing that Nicholas Lemann's step-grandmother was the mother-in-law of David Baldwin,  who had informed Shaw that he, David was the godfather and first
cousin of Garrison's wife, Leah, indicates Fred buys into the entire charade, and that you do, too. It is obvious Nicholas and Garrison were misleading both Joan Mellen
and the editor of Garrison's "On the Trail...." Zachary Sklar
, who was also Oliver Stone's co-screen play writer of JFK, the movie.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,5112.msg182698.html#msg182698

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https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1435.msg46831.html#msg46831
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Tom S. June 6, 2016 at 11:37 pm
Part II of II

Oliver Stone protested :.....
......
Here is the link to Nicholas Lemann and Zachary Sklar trading letters in GQ, after the Lemann?s Jan., 1992 article was published?..

Lemann responds on pg. 2, to Sklar?s letter which begins on pg 1.:

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/S%20Disk/Stone%20Oliver%20JFK%20Movie/Gentleman's%20Quarterly/Item%2002.pdf
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No disclosure in Nicholas?s rebuttal to Zachary Sklar, or from Sklar about Lemann?s conflicts/background:.
......
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Things I don't care about
« Last post by Brian Doyle on Yesterday at 04:46:33 PM »


No...Sure...

Permindex, the Kennedy conspiracy, and Richard Helms being caught committing perjury over Shaw all point towards what you wrote...
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From what I've read (the Carpenter and Litwin books, primary sources, et cetera), Shaw was assigned to the SOS in the war not the OSS. The SOS was Services of Supply. He was a supply officer who, among other duties, was assigned to help stockpile supplies for the Normandy Invasion; he was not an intelligence officer. According to his military records he was stationed in England, France and Belgium during the war. He was never in Italy.

Roughly ~24,000 people worked for the OSS during the war. Including the famous chef Julia Child (her maiden name was McWilliams). I added her name just to point out that simply working for the OSS or the CIA doesn't mean you're an agent or involved in espionage.

Here is a list of those people: https://www.archives.gov/files/iwg/declassified-records/rg-226-oss/personnel-database.pdf

Shaw is not on the list.

And, for kicks, here is Julia Child's file. She was a typist and research/administrative assistant during her service and was paid $2980 each year (she was not a "spy"): https://catalog.archives.gov/medialive/61/1806/2180661/content/arcmedia/oss/McWilliams_Child_Julia.pdf
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You are obviously reality-challenged like with Lovelady & Shelley...

The films show the reality and reality dictates that Calvery & Reed had to go from the motorcade spectators to the steps...

You are using a bogus argument to argue against already-proven evidence...

The research community, right on schedule, leaves me alone flapping out in the wind on this...

    You claim that I am "reality challenged" with respect to Lovelady and Shelley. Their WC Testimony is in conflict with your speculated Calvery & Reed timeline/Mad Dash. Your made up Calvery/Reed timeline vs the WC Lovelady/Shelley timeline is off by roughly 2.5 minutes.
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