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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Now What Mr. Trump?
« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on Today at 05:59:59 AM »lol now les magaz’ have a golden statue to worship, gonna put it in the middle of their Golden Arch after its tour around the globe.
It’s gonna be golden, as the Blag’ once said.
Golden like the Arches of MacDo’s. He is such a toad.
It’s gonna be golden, as the Blag’ once said.
Golden like the Arches of MacDo’s. He is such a toad.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The Miracle On Elm Street
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on Today at 03:22:59 AM »I had to start this thread in response to something a Nutter posted on another thread insinuating that Arnold Rowland made up seeing the man with the rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD building.
Of all the crazy things the Warren Commission has forced Nutters to believe this has to be right up there.
Barbara Rowland confirms her husband's account of seeing the man with the rifle at the southwestern end of the 6th floor of the TSBD building:
Mrs. ROWLAND. Well, my husband and I were talking about Mr. Stevenson’s visit and the way the people had acted, and we were talking about security measures, and he said he saw a man on the sixth floor of the School Book
Depository Building, and when I looked up there I didn’t see the man, because I didn’t know exactly what window he was talking about at first. And when I found out which window it was, the man had apparently stepped
back, because I didn’t see him.
Mr. BELIN. Which window was it?
Mrs. ROWLAND. It was the far left-hand window.
Mr. BELIN. As you face the building?
Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. It would be the window to the south side of the building?
Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Would it be on the eastern part of the south side or the western part of the south side?
Mrs. ROWLAND. West.
Mr. BELIN. Would it be the farthermost west window?
Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes; the farthermost west pair of windows.
Mr. BELIN. The farthermost west pair of windows. What did your husband say to you?
Mrs. ROWLAND. Well, we assumed that it was a Secret Service man.
Mr. BELIN. But what did he say, if you remember?
Mrs. ROWLAND. He told me that he saw a man there who looked like he was holding a rifle, and that it must be a security man guarding the motorcade.
In the immediate aftermath of the shooting Rowland ran around telling every law enforcement officer he could find about the man with the rifle. He told three or four officials about this man before he gave his affidavit:
"...We stood there for a time talking about the security measures that were being made for the president’s visit in view of the recent trouble when Mr. Adelai Stevenson had been a recent visitor to Dallas. It must have been 5 or 10 minutes later when we were just looking at the surrounding buildings when I looked up at the Texas Book...building and noticed that the second floor from the top had two adjoining windows which were open, and upon looking I saw what I thought was a man standing back about 15 feet from the windows and was holding in his arms what appeared to be a hi powered rifle because it looked like it had a scope on it.
He appeared to be holding this at a parade rest sort of position. I mentioned this to my wife and merely made the remark that it must be the secret service men.
This man appeared to be a white man and appeared to have a light colored shirt on, open at the neck. He appeared to be of slender build and appeared to have dark hair. In about 15 minutes President Kennedy passed the spot where we were standing and the motorcade had just turned west on Elm heading down the hill when I heard a noise which I thought to be a back fire."
To imagine that Rowland invented this sighting is beyond belief as it would require the almost miraculous coincidence of him inventing a man (whose description closely matches that of other eyewitnesses) carrying a scoped, high-powered rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD building.
What are the chances Rowland making up a white, slender male carrying a scoped, high-powered rifle on the 6th floor and it turns out that's exactly what happened?
ROLL UP, ROLL UP NUTTERS.
LET'S HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS MATTER.
DON'T BE SHY.
DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE MIRACLE ON ELM STREET?
Where was Bonnie Ray at the time that Rowland saw the guy 15 feet inside the Southwest window of the 6th floor?
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on Today at 03:19:18 AM »I'm really surprised at you, Tim, for posting such utter nonsense.
Finding Oswald's rifle on the 6th floor DOES NOT place Oswald at the SN window at 12:30
Because Oswald had no alibi at the time of the shooting DOES NOT place him at the SN window at 12:30
Finding Oswald's prints on boxes in the SN DOES NOT place at the SN window at 12:30
There is no piece of evidence - NONE - that places Oswald at the SN window at 12:30
Your interpretation of these select pieces of evidence is that Oswald was the shooter - that's your interpretation of these particular pieces of evidence.
And your assumption is that if Oswald was the shooter, then he was at the SN window at 12:30pm.
It's a theory, Tim, and nothing more.
You never struck me as a true Nutter, in the mould of Corbett or Smith, but it appears you may well be.
I haven't been posting nonsense here. You have.
Oswald's rifle being the assassination weapon, together with the fact that he had no alibi for the time of the shooting, places him in the SN at 12:30pm.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 01:31:19 AM »I can't even begin to follow the hairbrained reasoning in this post or who you have arrived at the conclusions contained in it. I might get an aneurism if he tried.
Your JFK Assassination foundation is currently limited. Try becoming familiar with the JFK Assassination Films. Then, read revered material such as "Pictures Of The Pain".
Wiegman said he felt the "compression" of a bullet on his face. His seeing SA Lem Johns UP the knoll is also something you are not familiar with. It's Facts such as this which you claim to be "hairbrained". To the contrary, they challenge the currently accepted Wiegman Timeline. And this is in the face of there not being 1 single Fact substantiating that Wiegman was "sprawled" across the steps on the Bell Film. Gaining JFK Assassination knowledge will lead to your gaining confidence/courage. Give it a try.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Why did Debrueys introduce LHO to Smith and Roche?
« Last post by Gerry Down on Today at 12:41:02 AM »So, any ideas?
What Pena seems to be describing is a relationship between Oswald and the FBI that has been going on a long time, possibly years.
Yet Debrueys only knows Oswald 2 or 3 weeks at this stage.
What Pena seems to be describing is a relationship between Oswald and the FBI that has been going on a long time, possibly years.
Yet Debrueys only knows Oswald 2 or 3 weeks at this stage.
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re: Am I the only one...
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Today at 12:36:39 AM »It took 30 years to go from the crime to her attempted execution (which they botched by allowing a woke request to have an all female team). What do you think the holdup was? Do you think conservative republicans were advocating for delay? You don't think that left wingers are the ones who oppose the death penalty?
"The divide between supporters of the two major political parties shows an erosion of support for the death penalty among Independents and Democrats, but support remains constant among Republicans. According to Gallup’s October 2025 polling, 82% of Republicans favor the death penalty, compared to 47% of Independents, and just 32% of Democrats. These numbers show a 50-point difference in support between the two major political parties."
good for you - and what happened in TN in recent weeks has nothing to do with DEMS or leftists
that's your own ignorant prejudice
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re:Donald Trump is a Piece of Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Today at 12:34:29 AM »It's currently neither since there is not much going on but not sure what leftist TDS point you are trying to make. A war is something that Congress declares. Do you know something the rest of us do not?
Dude - this could be the stupidest thing you have ever posted on this forum Ha Ha !!! - He started bombing Iran during final negotiations. $1.5B a day and it's not a war !!
16 to 20 U.S. military installations have been severely damaged or rendered virtually unusable
His delusional claims to have "won the war" like 35 times - the strait is still closed
right now about 17 ships daily - it should be 120 - 130
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A war is something that Congress declares
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General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) / Re:Donald Trump is a Piece of Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 12:07:50 AM »It's currently neither since there is not much going on but not sure what leftist TDS point you are trying to make. A war is something that Congress declares. Do you know something the rest of us do not?
Dear Herr Comrade Smith,
Everyone should have a case of Trump Disinformation Sanitizer (TDS).
-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Today at 12:00:08 AM »I listed specific items your narrative doesn't even begin to explain, and your one sentence reply provides no details on how your imagined conspirators accomplished the other items. The sad part is that you're not bright enough to understand that.
That's right.
After I had neatly dealt with your challenge you started panicking and throwing in a load more items that weren't in the original challenge.
Now, getting back to the topic of this thread.
You've been challenged by me. It's a far more simple challenge.
You've pretended not to notice it because you're a bit devious like that.
I faced your challenge head on - do you have the character and backbone to face mine?
Remember - your answer must be Common Sense, it must be Rational.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The Miracle On Elm Street
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 11:52:43 PM »I didn't take a position on this question because I have no way of knowing what Rowland saw and there is nothing the confirms or refutes what he claimed to see.

There is nothing that confirms or refutes what he claimed to see??
Are you high?
Rowland claimed to see a slender white guy with a high-powered, scoped rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD building in the minutes before the assassination...and you don't think there is anything to confirm or refute this claim!!
There was actually, IN REALITY, a slender white guy with a high-powered, scoped rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD building...don't you think this confirms Rowland's claim?

The things Nutters are forced to say, thanks to the deviousness of the Warren Commission, defy belief.
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Again, you are reading far more into my reply than was there. I would find Rowland a bit more credible if he had bothered to alert the nearest cop to what he claimed to have seen.
It would be quite easy for Rowland to make up this story AFTER the shooting. That's why I said he would be more believable had he told his story before the shots were fired, and also much more consequential. This is a perfect illustration of what I just told MGT in another thread on how I judge witnesses. If they are corroborated by other evidence, I believe them. If they are refuted by other evidence, I don't believe them. If they are neither corroborated nor refuted, which is the case with Rowland, I can only say their account MIGHT be true.
That question assumes Oswald would have been walking around that floor at the time BRW was there.
It hasn't been established Oswald was walking around and if he was, it hasn't been established what kind of shirt he was wearing.
Not established.
You seem to have misworded your question so it is hard to know what you meant. BRW is the only one who would have known why he chose the window he did.
There is absolutely nothing Rowland said that refutes the findings of the WC.
Because you are so unfamiliar with the evidence you are unaware that Rowland did tell his story before the shots were fired. Your whole, childish argument disappears.
Rowland's observations are just a piece of the pattern of lies, manipulation, fabrication and omission the Warren Commission used to construct it's report.
Rowland's description of the man with the rifle contains key information confirmed by other eye-witnesses...information that also refutes the WC's Oswald-Did-It narrative.
But there's no point in telling you any of this.
Your undying love for the Warren Commission is creepy.
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