JFK Assassination Forum

    Let me get this straight. After 62+ years, NO MOTORCYCLE COP, (including Haygood), has EVER identified themselves as being the "One Glove Cop" filmed by Darnell? And you want to cavalierly describe this as being a mere "anomaly"? Again, Haygood was the ONLY MOTORCYCLE COP back inside the  railroad yard immediately after the kill shot. That makes this "One Glove Cop" filmed by Darnell an impostor. And, when we last see this out-of-uniform, no motorcycle cop, he is heading Directly toward the TSBD. 1+1 = Conspiracy.   

Your position is completely illogical, which is also typical for conspiracy hobbyists. The fact that the officer in question cannot be positively identified is not proof that it was not a DPD officer. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. If we accept your "proof" that it is not Officer Haygood, that in no way proves it is not a DPD officer. The rest of your thought process completely escapes me. I see no semblance of logical thinking in your conclusion that "1 +1 = conspiracy". You continue to assert things you are unable to prove.

Do not misconstrue my comments that I have accepted your premise that the Officer in question is NOT Officer Haygood. From my perspective, it might or might not be Haygood. I don't have proof positive one way or another although if I were to place a bet on this issue, i would bet it is Officer Haygood and your argument that it is not is as illogical as all your other conclusions. Conspiracy hobbyists tend to gravitate toward their preconceived belief of a conspiracy. Their line of thinking goes something like this:

If A is true, B must be true.

If B is true, C must be true.

If C is true, there must have been a conspiracy.

They arbitrarily dismiss other plausible explanations of B and do the same with other plausible explanations for C. That doesn't make for a very compelling argument.

What's the false premise?

Do you think Republican Mueller and/or the Republican-controlled Senate Select Committee on Intelligence made stuff up to "get" Trump?

You keep insisting I disagreed with the Mueller report. I have already stated and didn't disagree with their finding that there was no evidence the Trump campaign conspired with the Russians to influence the 2016 election. If Mueller found no such evidence, why should I believe there is such evidence. I did state that congressional committees are not infallible, and pointed to the HSCA of a probable conspiracy to assassinate JFK as one example of that. I was making a general observation about congressional committees and you read far more into that than you should have.

I have not read the full Mueller report and if I did I might or might not find things I disagree with. I have read the Cliff Notes summary of their findings. They found evidence that the Russians had worked to influence the outcome of our elections. I would be amazed if they hadn't since they had always done that in the past. In 2016 they had more tools in their toolbox due to the prevalence of social media, especially among younger voters. The Mueller report also found no evidence that Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians to influence the outcome. Of course, the Trump campaign was trying to influence the election. That's what campaigns are all about. There is no evidence the Trump campaign was working with the Russians and Mueller's report stated so.

Now tell use where I have said I disagree with the Mueller Report or the Senate investigating committee.

It appears to me at the time this photo was taken, TUM was standing on the far edge of the sidewalk. TUM's leg shadow is being cast on the lawns concrete edge.



This photo taken relatively not long after, shows a cameraman on the sidewalk and by the angle of the shadow we can see that TUM was only inches away from the concrete edge.



BTW, if TUM was part of the conspiracy and was either waving his umbrella or firing a poison dart, there is no way he would hang around and let himself be photographed.

JohnM

   Not only is Witt's HSCA testimony contrary to the JFK Assassination images of Umbrella Man, if you watch Witt's HSCA testimony, he handles what looks to be a heavy water pitcher. He does this with his (L) hand. As we see above, Umbrella Man is pumping his umbrella with his (R) hand. It would have been interesting to see Witt sign his HSCA Testimony. Atticus Finch would have been all over this.

TG-

We have belabored this point a few times.

I match Gov. JBC's testimony to the Z-film.

But even without JBC's testimony (and that of his wife), to my layman's eye, JBC is shot at ~z-295 and is indeed a bit pushed forward by the blow---which took out four inches of rub, and thus was meeting resistance as it passed through his body. (It is true, sometimes bullets will pass through a body, while the body remains relatively still, if only soft flesh or organs are struck).

JBC appears entirely uninjured right up ~Z-295.

I could on---JBC's surgeon said his opinion was that a separate bullet had struck JBC from the one that passed through JFK. Dr. Shaw had worked on 700 wartime gunshot victims.

Caveat emptor, and draw you own conclusions.

I have one question.

Are you freaking serious?

JBC turned and dipped to his right, then twisted so dramatically in his seat that he was facing directly at JFK, a 180 degree turn. And what do you suppose caused his right arm to suddenly flip upward at Z226, the same frame JFK's arms started upward.

Your explanation is a classic example of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. It simply doesn't fit with what we can plainly see for ourselves.

TG-

We have belabored this point a few times.

I match Gov. JBC's testimony to the Z-film.

But even without JBC's testimony (and that of his wife), to my layman's eye, JBC is shot at ~z-295 and is indeed a bit pushed forward by the blow---which took out four inches of rub, and thus was meeting resistance as it passed through his body. (It is true, sometimes bullets will pass through a body, while the body remains relatively still, if only soft flesh or organs are struck).

JBC appears entirely uninjured right up ~Z-295.

I could on---JBC's surgeon said his opinion was that a separate bullet had struck JBC from the one that passed through JFK. Dr. Shaw had worked on 700 wartime gunshot victims.

Caveat emptor, and draw you own conclusions.

LOL!