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TG-

This is not speculation, but observation: The CIA often used personnel who were detailed from other defense agencies.

For example, when the Kennedy Administration decided to have the SV Diem brothers waxed, they turned over dirty work to Lucien Conein, US Army officer but actual OSS/CIA operative.

Same deal on Hemming?

So, now you think the CIA killed JFK?
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TG-

This is not speculation, but observation: The CIA often used personnel who were detailed from other defense agencies.

For example, when the Kennedy Administration decided to have the SV Diem brothers waxed, they turned over dirty work to Lucien Conein, US Army officer but actual OSS/CIA operative.

Same deal on Hemming?
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Dino Brugioni claimed that he had seen a different version of the Zapruder film which included a large red mist over JFKs head, which lasted 2 to 3 frames, at the time of the fatal head shot. The Zapruder film as it stands only shows a red mist for 1 frame which is frame 313. Brugioni claimed that the version of the Zapruder film we have now shows a much shorter headshot sequence than the version he saw.

However Abraham Zapruder disproves such a claim. When Zapruder sold the rights of the  Zapruder film to LIFE magazine, he stipulated that frame 313 must never be published, a stipulation that LIFE honored. The fact that Zapruder stipulated that only 1 frame must not be published, and not 2-3 frames, is prima facia evidence that the gore of the headshot did not last longer than 1 frame.

Brugioni did not claim that the version of the Zapruder film we have now shows a much shorter headshot sequence than the version he saw. He claimed that the version of the Zapruder film that he saw on the weekend of the assassination showed the headshot "explosion" in more than one frame. In extant Zapruder film, the headshot "explosion", including the red mist, is visible in 3 frames. Brugioni was not shown the extant film or any of the first or second generation copies by Horne or Janney.
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TG-

Excellent observation.

Hemmings blew smoke around the JFKA for decades.

Was he a Solie dupe? Just a crackpot?

Let's speculate!!!
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Zapruder and Life saw the film the week of the assassination before any dyes got a chance to fade. Despite Zapruder being paid the equivalent in today's money of 1.5m dollars for the film, and Life paying that much, neither of them saw any differences in the Zapruder film at all. That's the kind of money that would make people observant.



Hi Gerry, do you accept that the clip, posted by Jarrett, has completely debunked your assertion that the 'mist' was only present for a single frame?
Did you not think to look at a copy of the Z-film before starting this thread?
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Rather screwed up so badly, that CBS gave him Walter Cronkite's News Anchor position. Top of the ladder. That shut him up.

CBS probably didn't realize that he'd screwed up on so many things until several years later.

Regardless, at least he got the "money shot" (pardon the pun): JFK had been shot in the head, JBC had been shot somewhere, and that Jackie had tried to jump out of the car or some-such thing.

Oh yeah, and that it happened in Dallas, Texas.

On Elm Street.
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TG--

Well, his wife said as much also.

I have read Gov. JBC's WC and HSCA testimonies, and those of Drs. Gregory and Shaw, many times.

At Z-222, JBC is sitting bolt upright. He has been shot through the chest, had his right wrist fractured and the slug penetrated into his thigh?

And that after that, he makes a 180-degree turn in his seat to look for JFK? Unaware of his own grievous injuries?

JBC recalls he was pushed forward by the slug that struck him, and immediately immobilized.

That lines up with ~Z-295.

Also, most ear-witnesses heard a "bang....bang-bang" cadence of shots. That limes up with JFK struck at ~Z-222, and then JBC at ~Z-295 and then JFK again at Z-313.

That's my story, and I am sticking with it.

Suit yourself.
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TG--

Well, his wife said as much also.

I have read Gov. JBC's WC and HSCA testimonies, and those of Drs. Gregory and Shaw, many times.

At Z-222, JBC is sitting bolt upright. He has been shot through the chest, had his right wrist fractured and the slug penetrated into his thigh?

And that after that, he makes a 180-degree turn in his seat to look for JFK? Unaware of his own grievous injuries?

JBC recalls he was pushed forward by the slug that struck him, and immediately immobilized.

That lines up with ~Z-295.

Also, most ear-witnesses heard a "bang....bang-bang" cadence of shots. That limes up with JFK struck at ~Z-222, and then JBC at ~Z-295 and then JFK again at Z-313.

That's my story, and I am sticking with it.




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TG-

Excellent observation.

Hemmings blew smoke around the JFKA for decades.

Was he a Solie dupe? Just a crackpot?
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The animation is based on the photographic record. It’s confirmed by that record, including the Towner images as I have clearly demonstrated.

   Towner said she stopped filming after the 1st shot. Her Film shows the JFK Limo and the hood of the Queen Mary behind it, but No trace of the TALL Monument in the background. This means the JFK Limo was (W) of the sidewalk that runs down from the (E) Pergola Shelter at this point in time. Per the account of Tina Towner, the alleged "early" 1st shot never happened.
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