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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 04:37:11 PM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 04:26:44 PM
He had fired similar rifles before as a Marine. Marina said he admitted firing the MC at General Walker. He just had to have fired the MC once to experience the recoil.

He hadn't fired a Marine rifle in four years. Marina is an admitted liar.

Quote from: Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 04:26:44 PM
Use your imagination:

Yes, very cartoon like. Especially an early shot before z-210.
Which box set up should I use?

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 04:26:44 PM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 03:48:27 PM
cite?

Mr. Rankin: …there are a good many stories about his practicing with a gun, you know, around various rifle ranges and so forth,
we have checked those out and none of them stand up at all. (Executive Session | Jan. 27, 1964)
He had fired similar rifles before as a Marine. Marina said he admitted firing the MC at General Walker. He just had to have fired the MC once to experience the recoil.
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How does he shoot a rifle mounted on boxes out of a window, that is about 12 inches from the floor and only open about 13 inches?
Use your imagination:
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 03:48:27 PM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 07, 2026, 10:50:48 PM
It does pack quite a kick. But Oswald knew that because he had fired it many times before.

cite?

Mr. Rankin: …there are a good many stories about his practicing with a gun, you know, around various rifle ranges and so forth,
we have checked those out and none of them stand up at all. (Executive Session | Jan. 27, 1964)

Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 07, 2026, 10:50:48 PM
That is why he used the strap and put the rifle on boxes. 

How does he shoot a rifle mounted on boxes out of a window, that is about 12 inches from the floor and only open about 13 inches?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Old Article on G2-Castro Perping the JFKA---Gus Russo
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 03:35:11 PM »
Quote from: Lance Payette on Yesterday at 02:59:59 PM
An interesting alternative to the list of "JFKA Mystery Deaths" would be an alternative list of entirely respectable, upstanding, hard-working, decent Americans with loving families whose reputations were completely shredded, often while they were still alive, by dark speculation and innuendo from JFKA conspiracy cranks. The Bruce Solie memorial site, for crying out loud, has been befouled by 33rd Degree Conspiracy Loon "Linda" (I forget her last name), who sounds like she belongs in a mental institution: https://www.findagrave.com/user/profile/48291572. There ought to be a law, as the saying goes.

Dear Fancy Pants Rants,

I believe JFKA CT Linda Giovanna Zambanini got it right about Solie but was rather gauche in posting the information about him at an obituary site.

She's posted derogatory info -- true or not -- about several JFKA villains and hated CIA types over the years at Find-a-Grave.

Is Solie's the only one you're upset about?

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 03:29:27 PM »
Quote from: Lance Payette on Yesterday at 03:14:01 PM
I'm not following what windmill you're tilting at. Who said it meant a damn thing? It is what it is. Whether we're talking about the existence or nonexistence of a deity, the nature of ultimate reality, the ontological truth about the UFO phenomenon or even the historical truth about the JFKA, all we each can do is diligently inform ourselves, weigh the evidence and arguments as best we can, and arrive at the best set of convictions of which we are able. My direct experience with the UFO phenomenon is obviously going to factor into my thinking more than the thinking of anyone else, but even here I have to examine the event itself and my own thought processes and biases. That's why epistemology is such a fascinating branch of philosophy, at least to me.

An interesting philosophical question, it occurs to me is why posters such as yourself, who deal almost exclusively in snide one-liners, seem so perpetually dismissive and angry about almost everything - as though every thread were some sort of emotional, hot-button issue for you? It's quite fascinating. Perhaps you could seriously address why you consider this a worthwhile use of your time?

it's quite simple really. A nutter's creed, often times abused:
Witness testimony is the most unreliable. Therefore mistaken. whenever.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files
« Last post by Lance Payette on Yesterday at 03:14:01 PM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 02:52:16 PM
Incredible isn't it? Someone could stand right next to you and claim the exact same thing. It could even be a stranger.
 :D It doesn't mean a damn thing.

I'm not following what windmill you're tilting at. Who said it meant a damn thing? It is what it is. Whether we're talking about the existence or nonexistence of a deity, the nature of ultimate reality, the ontological truth about the UFO phenomenon or even the historical truth about the JFKA, all we each can do is diligently inform ourselves, weigh the evidence and arguments as best we can, and arrive at the best set of convictions of which we are able. My direct experience with the UFO phenomenon is obviously going to factor into my thinking more than the thinking of anyone else, but even here I have to examine the event itself and my own thought processes and biases. That's why epistemology is such a fascinating branch of philosophy, at least to me.

An interesting philosophical question, it occurs to me is why posters such as yourself, who deal almost exclusively in snide one-liners, seem so perpetually dismissive and angry about almost everything - as though every thread were some sort of emotional, hot-button issue for you? It's quite fascinating. Perhaps you could seriously address why you consider this a worthwhile use of your time?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Old Article on G2-Castro Perping the JFKA---Gus Russo
« Last post by Lance Payette on Yesterday at 02:59:59 PM »
An interesting alternative to the list of "JFKA Mystery Deaths" would be an alternative list of entirely respectable, upstanding, hard-working, decent Americans with loving families whose reputations were completely shredded, often while they were still alive, by dark speculation and innuendo from JFKA conspiracy cranks. The Bruce Solie memorial site, for crying out loud, has been befouled by 33rd Degree Conspiracy Loon "Linda" (I forget her last name), who sounds like she belongs in a mental institution: https://www.findagrave.com/user/profile/48291572. There ought to be a law, as the saying goes.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 02:52:16 PM »
Quote from: Lance Payette on Yesterday at 01:48:00 PM
Be that as it may, I heard two shots, saw one alien with a 30.06 in the third-portal window, and saw a different type of alien in a helmet exit the back door at a fast pace. That's my story and I'm sticking with it. My buddy heard three shots and thinks it was the fifth-portal window.

(My actual eyewitness testimony would be curious, even to me. This event was more than 50 years ago. I can recall it more vividly than any event in my life. I can tell you EXACTLY what I was thinking in the minute or so in which it unfolded, including how I tried to rationalize it. I can tell you EXACTLY, word for word, what I and my friend said. What I CANNOT tell you is what the craft looked like as it paced our car at close range. The best I can do is an extremely vague "dark, kinda thin and angular." That's it, as though the craft itself had been wiped from my memory. Whatever it was, both my friend and I IMMEDIATELY recognized this was something weird. There was NO conversation like "What's that funny-looking plane?" The actual conversation was "What ... the hell ... is THAT?" (me) followed by "Jesus Christ, do you see it too? I thought I was seeing things!" (my friend).)

Incredible isn't it? Someone could stand right next to you and claim the exact same thing. It could even be a stranger.
 :D In JFKA World, it doesn't mean a damn thing.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Old Article on G2-Castro Perping the JFKA---Gus Russo
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 02:14:52 PM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 01:29:23 PM
TG--

For that matter, liddle-widdle LHO, self-defined "Marxist," and self-imagined great thinker, may have chosen to go to Russia all on his own liddle-widdle initiative, and Bruce Solie may have been an ordinary CIA'er, nothing more than a less-than-stellar desk jockey. 

If you think LHO could conceive and execute the JFKA on his own...surely LHO could venture to Russia on his own, a much less intrepid exercise.

My guess is LHO had sponsors or confederates for both actions.

Dear "BC,"

You're absolutely right.

"Dour, plodding, risk-averse" Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) might have been doing legitimate CIA business when he . . .

1) . . . ,not on official CIA business, flew to Beirut (home of Kim Philby) in February 1957, shortly after Nosenko's boss, General Kovshuk (head of the KGB's efforts against the American Embassy), had gone to Washington as an ostensible diplomat at the Soviet Embassy on a two-year gig but returned to his kept-open-for-him job at KGB headquarters after only ten months and was seen in the company of two KGB types near D.C. movie houses that the FBI began referring to them as "The Three Musketeers"

2) . . . flew to Paris twice within thirty days for very short visits -- the first time a couple of weeks before Nosenko "walked in" to the CIA in Geneva in June 1962, and the second time after he'd asked Nosenko some questions (see below) right before Nosenko flew back to Moscow

3) . . . showed up unannounced at CIA safehouse in Geneva on 15 June 1962 to ask Major I mean Lt. Col. I mean Captain Yuri Nosenko about a list of possible moles that Golitsyn had told Angleton about and which naive Angleton had told Solie about (Tennent H. Bagley, who was there, said Nosenko "drew a blank")

4) . . . was the exclusive recipient of all of the incoming non-CIA cables on Oswald's defection which, if someone in Solie's office hadn't arranged in advance with the Office of Mail Logistics and the Records Integration Division, would have been routed to the Soviet Russia Division

5)  . . . pleaded with W. David Slawson in April 1964 for Nosenko to be allowed to testify to the Warren Commission, even though the Soviet Russia Division and CIA Counterintelligence had serious doubts about his bona fides

6) . . . "cleared" Nosenko in October 1968 via a bogus polygraph exam and a specious report

7) . . . hid Office of Security files on Oswald from the Church Committee and the HSCA

But then again, maybe not.

-- "TG"
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files
« Last post by Lance Payette on Yesterday at 01:48:00 PM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 02:37:32 AM
:D Witness testimony is the most unreliable. You were mistaken.

Be that as it may, I heard two shots, saw one alien with a 30.06 in the third-portal window, and saw a different type of alien in a helmet exit the back door at a fast pace. That's my story and I'm sticking with it. My buddy heard three shots and thinks it was the fifth-portal window.

(My actual eyewitness testimony would be curious, even to me. This event was more than 50 years ago. I can recall it more vividly than any event in my life. I can tell you EXACTLY what I was thinking in the minute or so in which it unfolded, including how I tried to rationalize it. I can tell you EXACTLY, word for word, what I and my friend said. What I CANNOT tell you is what the craft looked like as it paced our car at close range. The best I can do is an extremely vague "dark, kinda thin and angular." That's it, as though the craft itself had been wiped from my memory. Whatever it was, both my friend and I IMMEDIATELY recognized this was something weird. There was NO conversation like "What's that funny-looking plane?" The actual conversation was "What ... the hell ... is THAT?" (me) followed by "Jesus Christ, do you see it too? I thought I was seeing things!" (my friend).)
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