JFK Assassination Forum

I disagree. The shadow of the traffic light pole indicates Baker is on the other side of it. Plus it appears to me that his helmet disappears behind the traffic light pole. I do believe the no parking sign pole is on the other side of Baker.

     Baker's head/helmet is consistently obscured by 2 people that are also in motion. This "three card monty" is deceiving to the eye. Officer Baker's boot is not obscured by anything. It even glistens in the sun for a couple of frames. Baker is clearly on the (R) of the traffic light pole.
     The motion of these 2 people is also why we need to be very careful with the placement of Fedora Man. Fedora Man is also moving around as Wiegman was filming this same general area. And Wiegman was panning his camera while filming from inside a moving car that was turning onto Elm St.
      As the JFK Limo passed by an eyewitness, and that eyewitness then could only see the back of JFK or Jackie, they generally began to move around. This is natural. By the time that Wiegman began filming Fedora Man, the JFK Limo was well down Elm St.   

How many feet of "island" did Baker run across?

My guesstimate:

The WC established that Mooney was the first law enforcement officer to go to the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) after the shooting, and that Mooney was the officer who discovered the sixth-floor “sniper’s nest.” Mooney headed up the stairs from the second floor to the sixth floor at no later than 12:50. No federal or local law enforcement officers were on any of the upper floors of the building between 12:35 and 1:10.

No federal or local law enforcement officers were on any of the upper floors of the building between 12:35 and 1:10.

This is clearly not the case.
Marrion Baker, along with Roy Truly, reached the seventh floor at approximately 12:35 PM. As the were coming back down to the first floor in the elevator, they stopped on the fourth floor where Baker had a quick chat with Inspector Sawyer. Sawyer had entered the TSBD  around 12;35Pm and made his way up to the fourth floor with another officer and a mystery employee from the TSBD. He had his interaction with Baker on the fourth floor at approximately 12:40PM.
However, both these men were in full uniform and cannot be mistaken with the plain clothed deputy sheriffs Mooney saw on his way up to the sixth floor.
Mooney entered the TSBD no sooner than 12:40PM.
He took the elevator, which stalled on the second floor. He had a quick look around the second floor then made his way up to the sixth floor via the back stairs. It was at this time he crossed the two men coming down the stairs. This took place at approximately 12:45PM.
Mooney went up to the sixth, had a good look around on his own, went up to the seventh floor and helped out there before returning to the sixth floor and walking straight over to the southeast corner, where he discovered the "cubby hole". After alerting other officers on the sixth floor of his discovery, he shouted down to Fritz, who was entering the building at 12:58PM

So who were the two plain clothed deputy sheriffs Mooney encountered around 12:45PM?



This is the report of Deputy Sheriff Jack Faulkner, written up on the day of the assassination.
In it he reports that immediately after the shots he made his way to Elm Street where he was trying to find out what was going on.
He reports that "a small negro boy came up to a Dallas Uniform officer" and told him the shots came from the TSBD. The is is clearly Amos Euins talking to Harkness. This happened BEFORE Harkness radioed in this information at 12:36PM.
Faulkner immediately went to the TSBD where he was met by McCurley, Wiseman and Loraine and they "went to the top of the building and started checking the floors going down from the top in search of the assassin".
They make it to the third floor where they interview some people after which they make their way back up to the building. It is some time after this that Mooney makes his discovery.

It seems that Faulkner, a plain clothed Deputy Sheriff making his way down from the seventh floor, is at least one of the men Mooney encountered. I'm guessing Bill Wiseman was the other.

I have discovered a car [the 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Abandoned Getaway Car"] moving down Elm Street Extension at the same time that shots were being fired at JFK. This car is NOT on the Wiegman Film. Roughly 20 seconds later, this car IS on [sic]the Couch and Darnell Films. This is NOT "minutia". It is Brand New!

Dear Storing,

Charles Collins, Gerry Down, Steve Barber and I have proved you wrong.

Don't feel bad, though, because even The Great James Hackerott was fooled by your "the circular object in Wiegman is the taillight / brake light on another car on the other side of the street" explanation.

(LOL)

-- Tom

"ALL the forensic evidence points to Lee Harvery Oswald as the assassin and there isn't a scrap of credible evidence that he had any co-conspirators."

This is because you are ignoring ALL evidence that does NOT point to LHO.

Were all of the photos, films and X-rays altered and/or faked, or just a few?

(LOL)