New here.  Can someone please direct me to on this forum or explain the apparent contradiction that J. Thompson uses acoustic evidence in his book, The Last Second in Dallas,  and the previous work that claims to debunk the Dictabelt recordings. Thanks.

Hello Mr. Sanders.

I hope to try to give you an understanding of Thompson's research for his acoustics chapter within the following. Thompson bases his conclusions of the acoustics on the careless research by Donald Thomas (R.I.P.), whom you no doubt read about in Thompson's book. 

I am sure that you're now familiar with a Don Thomas after reading the acoustics chapter in "Last second in Dallas".  It is his "analysis" of the acoustics and the 2 channels made by the Dallas police department 11/22/1963, channel 1, the Dictabelt recording and channel 2, the grey audograph disc.  Thomas, like everyone, analyzed the recordings after they were transferred onto magnetic tape in 1964 by Dallas police communications supervisor James C. Bowles.

I am attaching a piece that I wrote in 2007-part of what was published in Vincent Bugliosi' Reclaimng History book, and also a revised edition also in 2007, on the Dale Myers website titled "Secrets of a Homicide", regarding Don Thomas' attack on Vince Bugliosi and myself , claiming that we were both "Bamboozled". Nothing could be further from the truth.

 I am attaching the link to my article, below.  The article will explain why Don Thomas' theory holds no water, based upon a transmission he heard on channel one 3 seconds before the so called first "gunshot" recorded on the Dictabelt, which I mentioned above

 I hope this helps you in some way to get a better understanding the conclusions reached by Thompson in his book, and how they are completely wrong regarding the "gunshot evidence". 

 https://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2007/07/of-crosstalk-and-bells-rebuttal-to-don.html

 

Back to the topic of Givens … from what I’ve read of Givens vs Bonnie Ray Williams WC testimony, Givens used the EAST elevator while Williams used the WEST elevator. Givens took the East elevator from
the 6th floor at about 5 minutes to 12:00
back down to  the 1st floor and he saw that the west elevator was not there on the 1st floor.

Williams said he used the West elevator to go to 6th floor about 12:00. So unless somebody else used the West elevator between Givens and Williams, then Williams was going up in the West elevator when Givens was coming down! 

If Givens account is true, and Williams account is true, then Oswald still on the 6th floor at 5 minutes till
12:00 had TWO opportunities to have gone down to the 1st floor riding either with Givens or using the West elevator just a mere 30 secs later when Williams arrived to the 6th floor.

So IF Givens 5min till 12:00 East elevator trip to the 6th floor is true and he saw Oswald there  and IF Bonnie Ray Williams 12:00 West elevator ride to 6th floor is true an BRW did NOT see Oswald there, and IF it’s true that Eddie Piper saw Oswald on the 1st floor at 12:00, then it is an extremely high probability that Oswald used the stairs to get down to meet Piper at 12:00.

So this leads to question why would Oswald turn down 2 opportunities to ride on an elevator down to the 1st floor, electing instead to trek down 6 flights of 18 step staircases and 120 ft of floor landings? Did Oswald like exercising that much? Or was he trying out the stairs for some other reason?

It's similar to the Bobby M. Nolan story. He believed that the envelope that he received from Nurse Audrey Bell contained a bullet. When asked about it in his later years , he always referred to it as "the bullet". But he never actually saw what was in the envelope. Bob Harris made a big deal of of it. He interviewed Nolan himself. He was adamant that Nolan received a bullet from someone. When I showed him the transfer receipt filled out by Audrey Bell and signed by her and Nolan, he went berserk. The copy of the transfer receipt had been found in the National Archives in the late 1990s by researcher Gary Murr. When I informed Harris of that, he went on the ED forum and attacked Murr; questioning his CT bona fides.

Oh, but it was even better than that. He'd decided that the evidence envelope that contained the bullet was a used one that a "newbie nurse" (his own original invention) fished out of the trash to reuse. He never could get his head around the fact that Nolan and Audrey Bell verified that the writing on the envelope was theirs.

Question: What do John Armstrong, Brian Doyle, Jimmy DiEugenio, Bart Kamp, Griffith, Stormtrooper Storing, and danny BOY o'meara, et al. ad nauseam, all have in common?

Answer: They're all full of KGB disinformation whether they realize it or not.

- The wound in the low neck

- in the low neck

- wound in the low posterior neck

- low in his neck

How exactly did he misunderstand Humes' testimony? Low neck is still the neck.

I agree with you on that 100%. I've stated that here and elsewhere many times.

Hi Tim, do you have an opinion about the actual topic of this thread?