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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Education Forum Goes Off the Rails
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 09:51:12 AM »Verily
Verily verily (like like the the typo typo in in your your OP OP), or just verily?
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shake the hand that shook the hand o’ tar baby, brer ! hey bigdawg, you need to stop your serious dialogue with The Brian, his tar is sticking to you ! you have fought the good fight like McAdams+ stars in your Crown, Henry !
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You didn't answer the question. If JBC was to the left of JFK when the bullet exited the centerline of JFK's throat, how is it possible that bullet could have passed to the left of JBC's torso when JBC was only 3 feet in front of and to the left of JFK? The geometry for your theory is impossible.If you want to be taken seriously you need to show why it would be impossible. Not at z223 when you suggest the first shot occurred but between z190-z200 when the evidence indicates it occurred. (I suggest z193). I agree a shot at z223 would not miss JBC's back.
Also, JFK did not immediately tilt to his left following being shot. His initial reaction to being shot was to raise up and bring his arms up to the level of his chin. It was only after his elbows went back down that he started leaning to the left. By claiming that the shot that struck him initially was in the early Z190s, you are adding two more seconds to the how long it took him to make that move to his left.It looks obvious to me that at z225 JFK's right side is not pressed against the car and he is not leaning to the right as he was in z193.
You never seem to be the least bit bothered by the impossibility of the things you propose.
I don’t have a theory. But I can tell you what facts are established by the clear preponderance of evidence:
1. there were three shots
2. the first shot was just after z186 and before z202.
3. the first shot struck JFK
4. the second shot was perceptibly after the mid point between the first and last.
5. the third and last shot struck JFK in the head
6. the above five points means that the second shot was perceptibly after z254.
I can’t tell you for sure what JFK is doing when we can see him other than to relate what witnesses observed him do or appear after the first shot. But that varies according to the vantage point of the observer. The only person in the same vantage point of Zapruder was Zapruder’s camera and it doesn’t show what he is doing. But I would suggest that it is reasonable to infer that between z193 and z225 JFK brought his right hand down, moved left and assumed the startled look we see in z225.
Please tell us what we'd see in the Zapruder film, according to your theory, if the Stemmons Freeway sign hadn't been there on 22 November 1963.I don’t have a theory. But I can tell you what facts are established by the clear preponderance of evidence:
JFK's reacting to having been hit "at Z-193," or his getting ready to react to having been hit "at Z-193"?
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I am actually sad. I was expecting you would attack the underlying evidence on which the charts are based or the independence of the witnesses. Instead you attack the statistical significance of what they represent - you are attacking basic mathematics. And you don't seem to think that is a problem. I am sad that you are happy about that.