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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 01:17:42 PM »You are right about the timing of the shot that went through JFK's throat but wrong about the sequence. That was the second shot and it went on to pass through JBC as well. JBC was
adamant to his dying day that he had heard a shot before than one that struck him. He is seen turning to look over his right shoulder in reaction to the first shot at Z164.
My own belief is the shot struck at Z222 but since JFK was hidden from view and we only have the reactions of JFK, JBC, and Zapruder to tell us when the shot struck, it is impossible to say precisely when the bullet actually struck JFK. Either Z222 or Z223 could be correct.
Zapruder's camera jiggle in reaction to the headshot, which we can pinpoint, came five frames after JFK's head exploded. Since the distance from the rifle to Zapruder's ears was a constant for all three shots, we should expect a similar reaction time. Zapruder's camera jiggle following the single bullet was at Z227. Going back five frames takes us to Z222. However, it is unlikely the number of elapsed frames from when the bullet was fired until Zapruder reacted is going to be an integer. Maybe the reaction time measured in elapsed frames was actually 4.75 or 5.64 or somewhere else in that approximate time frame. It isn't necessary to pinpoint the exact frame the bullet struck. The simultaneous reaction of JFK and JBC when both men flipped their arms upward would likely have occurred 3-4 frames after the two men were struck.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 11:34:10 AM »“Never argue with an idiot; they will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
I must credit the late, great George Carlin for that line.
If you argued with an idiot they would have to drag you up to their level.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The Miracle On Elm Street
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 11:32:34 AM »Debate, is this your new battle cry? Other threads you brought up debate with other posters. Your story is so weak you now have to pretend there is something to debate? How about explain Rowland answers to Specter that is what is being discussed.
Typical CT nonsense, ask some ridiculous meaningless question instead of provide an answer. What I think is immaterial.
This is all you need to concern yourself with:
You are trying to weasel word your way out of explaining Rowlands testimony. How about you man up and relate his sighting to reality.
As I suspected...you lack the backbone to answer the incredibly simple yes/no question that forms the basis of this thread. The thread specifically created to deal with this subject - the ridiculous claims of those who believe Rowland invented a man with a rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD building and, by some miracle, happened to be right.
I understand why you won't just come out and answer a simple yes or no.
You won't do it because of how ridiculous it would make you look...and even you have your limits.
And I will debate you about any aspect of this anytime. As I say, watching you fall apart never gets old.
What I think is immaterial.
This is the truest thing you have ever posted.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: List of the best sources for each home movie i know about
« Last post by Matt Brooks on Yesterday at 11:00:14 AM »Thanks Mark.I'll look into it.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Greg Burnham Asks, "Does Education Forum Have TDS?"
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 10:42:28 AM »"I know I have the option of not reading these posts. However, I remain mystified as to how most of these replies have anything at all to do with JFK. I suggest that there be a TDS Forum added to the Education Forum so that those wishing to discuss Trump have a place to do so."--Greg Burnham 10.7.2026 post in Education Forum.
Burnham is a solid JFKA researcher, who has different views from mine. So it goes.
Verily, and the title of the thread in which Burnham posted?
Donald Trump, the Deep State and the JFK Assassination
There are others, such as JFK Files and the Jeffrey Epstein files
Such threads are, of course, tailor-made for TDS, Israel Derangement Syndrome (IDS) and other feculent mental disabilities. You can imagine what is said about Epstein. Or maybe you can't---much of it is nutty.
(BTW, I have mixed regard for Trump).
In truth, the Education Forum has improved under the leadership of Andrew Iler, and the deposing of the florid anti-Semitic crackpot and "moderator" William Niedernut.
The posts connecting Jews, 9.11, the USS Liberty, the RFKA, Mossad, Watergate and and the King and Malcom X assssinations, and I forget what else, have largely disappeared.
But Iler is saddled with the legacy founder, John Simkin, who seems to ache for platform to post his far left-wing views on every topic under the sun, from US national debt, to whatever Trump said now. Other legacy members pile on...and on....and on....and on.....
To be honest, there is a fair sprinkling of LNT'er posters in the Education Forum now, including Fred Litwin. I like to see all points of view, and that is an improvement.
But, if you have TDS, there is a home for you in the JFKA research land...the Education Forum!
Burnham is a solid JFKA researcher, who has different views from mine. So it goes.
Verily, and the title of the thread in which Burnham posted?
Donald Trump, the Deep State and the JFK Assassination
There are others, such as JFK Files and the Jeffrey Epstein files
Such threads are, of course, tailor-made for TDS, Israel Derangement Syndrome (IDS) and other feculent mental disabilities. You can imagine what is said about Epstein. Or maybe you can't---much of it is nutty.
(BTW, I have mixed regard for Trump).
In truth, the Education Forum has improved under the leadership of Andrew Iler, and the deposing of the florid anti-Semitic crackpot and "moderator" William Niedernut.
The posts connecting Jews, 9.11, the USS Liberty, the RFKA, Mossad, Watergate and and the King and Malcom X assssinations, and I forget what else, have largely disappeared.
But Iler is saddled with the legacy founder, John Simkin, who seems to ache for platform to post his far left-wing views on every topic under the sun, from US national debt, to whatever Trump said now. Other legacy members pile on...and on....and on....and on.....
To be honest, there is a fair sprinkling of LNT'er posters in the Education Forum now, including Fred Litwin. I like to see all points of view, and that is an improvement.
But, if you have TDS, there is a home for you in the JFKA research land...the Education Forum!
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Darnell Gifs "Credit: 6th Floor Museum" Jones Collection NBC 5 Archive
« Last post by Robin Unger on Yesterday at 08:17:31 AM »Weigman GIF


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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Darnell Gifs "Credit: 6th Floor Museum" Jones Collection NBC 5 Archive
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Darnell Gifs "Credit: 6th Floor Museum" Jones Collection NBC 5 Archive
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Darnell Gifs "Credit: 6th Floor Museum" Jones Collection NBC 5 Archive
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The Dealey Plaza Storm Drain Sewer Theory 1992
« Last post by Ted Sager on Yesterday at 02:11:18 AM »The south storm drain would have been an entirely logical choice for a shooting position. It provided concealment, an excellent view of the target, and a secure means of escape. It would have been the logical choice for a skilled assassin.
Yet, WC apologists howl and scoff whenever the south storm drain is mentioned as a possible shooting location. They prefer to believe, or say they believe, that the one and only shooting location was the sixth-floor window, never mind that the back wound and the rear head entry wound do not even come close to aligning back to that window, and never mind that the ammo that hit JFK's head could not have been the ammo that the supposed sixth-floor gunman allegedly used.
shot from south drain was impossible. Too much angle for throat shot, too close for head shot. Car was facing straight at drain not allowing the throat shot. Too closr for head shot at Ks leaning head.
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