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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Clint Hill describes the assassination

« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 03:53:00 PM »

I've seen Clint Hill describe the assassination in numerous videos but I hadn't seen this one. It's pretty much as he had described it in other videos I'd seen. The video starts as he is describing his effort to run to the car, chopping off his description of what led up to that point which is unfortunate. I would like to have heard that part. In the second half of the 9 minute video, he described the confrontation with Earl Rose over attempts to remove the body and take it to AF1. I'd heard others describe that but this was the first time I heard Hill describe it. His description wasn't nearly as dramatic as others I have heard. He seemed to have softened it a bit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/clint-hill-reflects-on-jfk-moments/vi-AA21IWui?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=6a70a6b5d24e42d8bebb769a8e163949&ei=18

JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

« Last post by Brian Doyle on Today at 03:30:18 PM »

Clique-favored Bart Kamp has been allowed readmission to The Education Forum...

Like DiEugenio, Kamp shows ability in deep research and extensive digging in to assassination information...Since I am honest I have to admit I use Kamp as a source on some assassination matters and his research is helpful at times...My pique with Kamp is that he tends to use that extensive research to reach quack conclusions and misses what his research is really leading to and insists on gang-like conduct in forcing through wrong claims...So the correct explanation of Kamp and his research is it is useful in learning about certain assassination subjects but then needs final correction away from the false conclusions he almost always draws...Kamp is a practice-er of Greg Parker crank research...The average JFK internet member gets impressed by extensive research but then fails to fact-check (See 'Ciphered Past')...

The reason Kamp has been allowed back on The Education Forum is because the Prayer Man people have hijacked the JFK internet and they have taken final control of the JFK internet through DiEugenio proxy Andrew Iler...The "reformation" of The Education Forum is carefully allowing all those who support the Prayer Man theory back on the board and it is corruptedly not allowing the best and brightest who are capable of refuting it..."The Moderation Team" is bullying those people and censoring them with false moderation...

If you are smart you will realize that the reason Kamp opened his re-admission to The Education Forum with a paper on Oswald in Finland and not his eponymous Prayer Man theory is because he knows I have refuted that notorious theory and he doesn't believe in it himself...It stands true that the Prayer Man theory only exists in places where corruption censors those who can refute it...I owe gratitude to Kamp because if he hadn't provoked me to refute that bogus theory then I would not have discovered the conspiracy break-through of our generation...

JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion?--A Fun Update!

« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 03:21:28 PM »

Quote from: Ted Sager on Today at 01:58:31 AM

Smoke was from a cherry bomb or such as to make loud report and smoke to distract so hidden shooters could escape in the chaos.

I just told Brian Doyle I'm on this forum for amusement only and thanked him for his contributions. I should thank you as well although I would appreciate it if you could do a little more. Your contributions have been quite meager.

JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Education Forum Returns to Sanity, and WN Is No Longer a Moderator

« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 03:16:58 PM »

Quote from: Brian Doyle on Today at 03:02:09 PM

We are all saying the same thing here...

One of us has cracked the conspiracy with the most important discovery of our generation...

You are a legend in your own mind. The only thing you might have cracked is your skull. I could believe that.

Quote

Some of us are here for clique approval and gratuitous "skepticism"...

Some are here for some of the best research ever done...

I am here for amusement only. Thank you for your contributions.

JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything

« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 03:03:58 PM »

Quote from: Andrew Mason on Today at 04:22:28 AM

But there is evidence that puts the first shot much earlier: just after z186 (e.g. Betzner) and just before z202 (Phil Willis) as the car approached the Thornton sign (z200, T.E.Moore) when JFK passed across Linda Willis’ sightline to the Stemmons sign (z195-z205-you can work that out based on her position in the zfilm). A first shot at z193 , which us where JFK begins changes to his head and hand positions, leaves 120 frames or 6.6 seconds to load, aim and fire two shots. JFK is already well into his reaction by z225.

The old laughable delayed reaction theory.

We are supposed to believe that JFK continued to calmly wave to the spectators to his right 9 frames, a half second, after being shot through the throat as seen here in Z202:
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z202.jpg

Then, after delaying his reaction for 33 frames, 1.8 seconds, we see JFK suddenly make this dramatic reaction at Z226:
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z226.jpg

This, coincidentally, is the same frame JBC suddenly flips his right arm in the air, apparently in anticipation to being shot 44 frames or 2.4 seconds later. You could fill a small book with the ridiculous things Andrew Mason has convinced himself of in order to believe his cockamamie theory. It's a joke.

JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Education Forum Returns to Sanity, and WN Is No Longer a Moderator

« Last post by Brian Doyle on Today at 03:02:09 PM »

Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 05:02:15 PM

And still nobody cares.

We are all saying the same thing here...

One of us has cracked the conspiracy with the most important discovery of our generation...

Some of us are here for clique approval and gratuitous "skepticism"...

Some are here for some of the best research ever done...

JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: 10 Reasons to Believe That Oswald Was Innocent

« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 02:41:16 PM »

Quote from: Ted Sager on Today at 02:02:06 AM

All are correct, so why did WC still framed O with no reasonable evidence? Conspiracy all the way.

No reasonable evidence my aching ass. Anyone with a basic knowledge of the evidence and an ounce of common sense knows Oswald killed JFK. Which of those do you lack?

JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion?--A Fun Update!

« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 07:35:24 AM »

Quote from: Ted Sager on Today at 01:58:31 AM

Smoke was from a cherry bomb or such as to make loud report and smoke to distract so hidden shooters could escape in the chaos.

LOL!

JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: 10 Reasons to Believe That Oswald Was Innocent

« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 07:34:43 AM »

Quote from: Ted Sager on Today at 02:02:06 AM

All are correct, so why did WC still framed O with no reasonable evidence? Conspiracy all the way.

You're full of beans and your grammar sucks.

JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Why do JFK assassination forums draw so many nut cases?

« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on Today at 07:07:51 AM »

Quote from: John Corbett on July 28, 2026, 03:35:42 PM

Maybe we should hand out gold, silver, and bronze medals.

I would be just fine with a participation trophy, but spell my name right on the engraved plate.

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