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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Making of a Conspiracist
« Last post by Tommy Shanks on Yesterday at 07:42:18 PM »
Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on Yesterday at 03:39:59 PM
I find it mind boggling that anyone would fall for the 9/11 Truther craziness. They should read some of Dr. David Mantik's research on the DNA evidence that proves that DNA from most of the hijackers was found at the WTC site, at the Pentagon crash site, and at the crash site in PA, proving that planes did in fact hit the Pentagon and Shanksville, PA. (9/11 Truthers don't deny that planes hit the WTC towers--yeah, since there are films showing the planes slamming into the towers).

Sadly, a number of left-wing WC skeptics have embraced the absurd theory that the Mossad played a role in JFK's death.

It sounds like Mansur has bought into Jihadism. Many Jihadists peddle 9/11 Trutherism and claim that Israel purposely attacked the USS Liberty in 1967.

Tell the Mantik bit to loonies at the Education Forum like W Niederhut, who appears to be single handedly destroying the place with his laughable agenda.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Applying Logic and Critical Thinking to the JFK Assassination
« Last post by Tommy Shanks on Yesterday at 07:39:37 PM »
Oh boy more lectures about logic from Michael T Griffith, who believes all the evidence is fake. Absurd!
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Ukraine Update for 2026
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 07:39:13 PM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on June 12, 2026, 05:58:56 PM
Give it up "Richard Smith"
 ;D a bullet at 3200 ft per sec (even grazing) would result in more severe damage to both his ear and hearing.

So says internationally recognized ballistics expert Michael Capasse.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Applying Logic and Critical Thinking to the JFK Assassination
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 07:34:44 PM »
Quote from: Lance Payette on Yesterday at 06:27:00 PM
I thought this thread was supposed to be about applying logic and critical thinking? It appears that a more apt title would have been Rehashing the Same Old Crap.

It's a 62  year old murder case. If we didn't rehash old crap, what else would there be to talk about?
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Given the circumstances of the JFKA, a logical supposition would be that Oswald did not expect to survive (and perhaps didn't care if he did).

That's something I beleive but not something I know. Nobody knows what Oswald was thinking.
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He was clearly thinking in this vein with the Walker attempt, which was vastly less risky.  If this were true, his failure to leave some sort of manifesto or at least a note is puzzling to me as I have previously stated.

Why do people think that there was a rule book Oswald was supposed to follow. He had his reasons for doing what he did and didn't do. He was under no obligation to tell anybody what those reasons were.
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Extremely puzzling, in fact. Once he survived and was in custody, bragging about his deed would not have been in his legal or ideological interests.

I see no point in wondering why Oswald didn't do what I think I would have done if I was in his shoes.
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It appears to me that the wheels started turning immediately, which is why he wanted Communist Party showman Abt to represent him. My guess is that he was thinking in terms of a grand show trial that would cement his place in history as a hero of the Cuban people and a deep Marxist thinker.

You are certainly entitled to guess. Your guess might even be right. In fact, I hope it is. I hope he was looking forward to his trial. It means Oswald got robbed of the infamy he thought he would gain. At least, he didn't get to live to enjoy it, thanks to Jack Ruby. I wonder if Oswald's last conscious thought was, "Life is so damn unfair". I chuckle just thinking about it.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How could former Marine sharpshooter Oswald miss everything with his first shot?
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 07:22:35 PM »
Quote from: Kevin Balch on Yesterday at 06:28:21 PM
Why then would Oswald take such a difficult shot when in a few seconds there would be much better opportunities? Why didn’t the men on the floor just beneath him not hear the shot? Or anyone else in the building for that matter?

He had the presence of mind not to take a shot while the limo was on Houston St. which is understandable because he would be more easily spotted. And he did not arrange the snipers nest for such a shot.

Because he had a better chance of hitting JFK if he took that shot than if he did not. As Wayne Gretzky correctly observed, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take". The later shots were still available to him. Taking an early low percentage shot improved his chances of success.

Given that Oswald succeeded in doing what he set out to do, I don't see much sense in second guessing his decisions.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Making of a Conspiracist
« Last post by Lance Payette on Yesterday at 07:02:00 PM »
Having now read all three of Fred's pieces, that is indeed an amazing 180-degree transformation. I still have to believe it is a combination of the seeds having been there long before the transformation and of religious influences of which we may not be fully aware. There is no way the events in Gaza triggered this sort of wholesale about-face.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Making of a Conspiracist
« Last post by Lance Payette on Yesterday at 06:36:19 PM »
Quote from: Mark Ulrik on Yesterday at 06:09:33 PM
I was only curious about the 9/11 related DNA research that MTG keeps vaguely alluding to.

I did my standard unserious troll Google search and came up completely empty. Even AI didn't know what I was talking about. But because MTG is a serious researcher and deals only in facts, I feel sure he will invent something to satisy your request.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Dr. E. Forrest Chapman
« Last post by Charles Collins on Yesterday at 06:34:43 PM »
Quote from: Jack Nessan on Yesterday at 05:50:38 PM
It is called a fictional story. Maybe your rifle has a point on the bridge, but none of the others do.


Where two circles meet [collide] is a single point. Below is a better image of CE 543. The mouth definitely isn’t flared out. And the dent appears to fit the blue arc of a circle roughly the diameter of the outside of the bridge.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How could former Marine sharpshooter Oswald miss everything with his first shot?
« Last post by Kevin Balch on Yesterday at 06:28:21 PM »
Why then would Oswald take such a difficult shot when in a few seconds there would be much better opportunities? Why didn’t the men on the floor just beneath him not hear the shot? Or anyone else in the building for that matter?

He had the presence of mind not to take a shot while the limo was on Houston St. which is understandable because he would be more easily spotted. And he did not arrange the snipers nest for such a shot.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Applying Logic and Critical Thinking to the JFK Assassination
« Last post by Lance Payette on Yesterday at 06:27:00 PM »
I thought this thread was supposed to be about applying logic and critical thinking? It appears that a more apt title would have been Rehashing the Same Old Crap.

Given the circumstances of the JFKA, a logical supposition would be that Oswald did not expect to survive (and perhaps didn't care if he did). He was clearly thinking in this vein with the Walker attempt, which was vastly less risky.  If this were true, his failure to leave some sort of manifesto or at least a note is puzzling to me as I have previously stated. Extremely puzzling, in fact. Once he survived and was in custody, bragging about his deed would not have been in his legal or ideological interests. It appears to me that the wheels started turning immediately, which is why he wanted Communist Party showman Abt to represent him. My guess is that he was thinking in terms of a grand show trial that would cement his place in history as a hero of the Cuban people and a deep Marxist thinker.
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