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Glanges was pretty sure it was a through and through bullet hole.

Covered up at the Rouge Plant 3 days later.

Of course.

The Rouge Plant was just another cog in Steve "I am a Leninist" Bannon's Deep State-Administrative State and/or Jimmy D'Eugenio's Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex that killed JFK and Jimi Hendrix, too!!!
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AP photographer James Altgens took a photograph that destroys the lone-gunman theory: Altgens 6. Everyone agrees that Altgens 6 was taken at right around Z255.

Here's the unsolvable problem that Altgens 6 poses for the lone-gunman theory: It shows damage to the windshield of JFK's limousine. Nobody disputes this fact. The Warren Commission (WC) admitted that the alleged magic bullet of the single-bullet theory (SBT) could not have caused the windshield damage. The WC assumed the damage was caused by a fragment from the head shot. However, the head shot did not occur until Z313.

As an important side note, I should mention that there is strong, mutually corroborating evidence that there was a hole in the windshield. At least eight witnesses in three different locations independently reported that they saw a hole in the windshield. One of the witnesses, a Dallas police officer, actually put a pencil through the hole to confirm it was a hole. Several of the witnesses said the hole appeared to have been made by a bullet that hit from the front. For more information on this evidence, see Doug Weldon's chapter in Murder in Dealey Plaza:

"The Kennedy Limousine: Dallas 1963"

See also Dr. David Mantik's chapter titled "The Frontal Shot Through the Limousine Windshield" in his 2024 book The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis (chapter 5).

I am not here to argue over the evidence of a windshield hole. My main point is that regardless of whether the windshield damage was just cracks or was a hole and some cracks, the lone-gunman theory has no plausible explanation for the damage.

WC apologists and mortal-error theorists who acknowledge that a bullet hit the pavement behind the limousine early in the shooting may suggest that a fragment from this bullet hit the windshield. However, this is problematic for a number of reasons.

The windshield damage was 4-6 inches to the left of the rearview mirror (viewing from the back of the limo to the front). In order to hit the windshield at this location, a fragment from the pavement bullet would have had to first miss the riding handles on the back of the limo, then miss JFK and Jackie Kennedy, then miss John and Nellie Connally, and then miss the driver, William Greer.

Furthermore, in the MPI large-format transparencies of the Zapruder film, the windshield damage first appears in Z193 and is plainly visible again from Z215 to Z232 (David Mantik, The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis, 2024, pp. 289-291). But the pavement strike occurred well before Z193 -- in fact, it occurred before Z166 (even according to Gerald Posner).

If a fragment had hit the windshield hard enough to crack it so early in the shooting, surely the driver would have noticed it and would have visibly reacted, since no other shots had been fired yet.

But, if the windshield was hit at around Z190, after at least one shot had already been fired, the driver, now nervous and distracted by having heard a rifle shot, may not have noticed the windshield hit, especially if a high-velocity bullet penetrated the windshield from the front.

Clearly, a windshield hit at Z190 could not have been done by a bullet fired from the sixth-floor window, even if we assume the windshield was hit from behind. Clearly, no fragment from the head shot could have caused the windshield damage, since the head shot occurred at Z313. And clearly, no fragment from the Z133-166 pavement bullet could have caused the windshield damage (indeed, WC apologists already have that bullet magically sending a large fragment streaking toward the curb near James Tague over 400 feet away).

The link for Weldon's chapter on the hole in the windshield has been fixed. Sorry about that.


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Charlie Kirk was a high-profile target and presumably would raise Tyler Robinson's standing in the weird but dangerous woke community he was part of.

What's your general definition of "woke"?
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Glanges was pretty sure it was a through and through bullet hole...

Covered up at the Rouge Plant 3 days later...
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JFK Assassination & General Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 07:52:15 PM »
I don't think it matters whether it was the bullet or rib fragments which caused the bulge in the jacket.

It does matter, because the bullet hole itself was too low to cause such a high bulge.
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Show us the damage that is "undisputedly" visible in Altgens 6.

It's my understanding that it was a two-ply laminated windshield, and that there was no through-and-through hole but the inner layer was cracked and the outer layer had lost a piece from the outward force of one of the bullet fragments from the Z-313 head shot that was found inside the limo.


ME: Was the windshield of JFK's limousine two-ply or three-ply?

Google AI: The windshield of JFK's 1961 Lincoln Continental limousine was two-ply (a standard laminated safety glass) at the time of the assassination. It was not bullet-resistant and contained only two layers of glass with a plastic interlayer, which was standard for luxury vehicles of that era.
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By raising the issue of the dented shell, the CTs demonstrate how really, really bad they are at weighing evidence. To them, the presence of a dented shell in the sniper's nest negates all the other forensic evidence that points to Oswald as the shooter. That dented shell gives them the excuse to dismiss the fact that all three of the spent shells were fired by the rifle that was found elsewhere on the 6th floor. That rifle was connected to Oswald in four different ways. By the paper trail indicating he purchased the rifle via mail order. He was photographed with the rifle. His palm print was on that rifle. The fibers on the butt plate of the rifle matched the shirt Oswald was wearing that day. Furthermore, a bag was found next to the sniper's nest that had Oswald's palm and fingerprint on the bottom of the bag and fibers matching the blanket Oswald used to store the rifle. Oswald's fingerprints were found on top of the boxes that were stacked by the window to form a rifle rest. All of this evidence points unmistakably to Oswald as the assassin. But that is not the answer the CTs want. In fact, they give no indication they are after any answers at all. What they really want are excuses to dismiss all that damning evidence that Oswald was they assassin. If they even respond to this post, we can count on them providing more excuses for each of the items I've pointed to as evidence of Oswald's guilt. They really have never shown an interest in figuring out who killed JFK. That just want excuses to deny it was Oswald.

So many people were obviously involved in planting evidence against the psychologically disturbed self-described Marxist former Marine sharpshooter that it HAD to be the Deep State or Steve Bannon's Deep State-Administrative State that did it!!!
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I don't think it matters whether it was the bullet or rib fragments which caused the bulge in the jacket. The point is I don't believe that bulge would happened simultaneous with the bullet exiting. As I said before, slow motion footage I've seen of objects being shot by rifle bullets always show the debris following behind the bullet, not pushed out in front of it. That's why I think it is significant to know at what frame the bullet entered the jacket to determine how much if any lag time there would be between the bullet passing through JBC's body and the movement of the jacket. I seem to recall in another thread someone saying Lattimer had determined the bullet passed through JBC before Z224 but I can't recall how many frames before nor can I find that thread where that observation was made.

What source have you used to show Lattimer's research on this matter.
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AP photographer James Altgens took a photograph that destroys the lone-gunman theory: Altgens 6. Everyone agrees that Altgens 6 was taken at right around Z255.

Here's the unsolvable problem that Altgens 6 poses for the lone-gunman theory: It shows damage to the windshield of JFK's limousine. Nobody disputes this fact. The Warren Commission (WC) admitted that the alleged magic bullet of the single-bullet theory (SBT) could not have caused the windshield damage. The WC assumed the damage was caused by a fragment from the head shot. However, the head shot did not occur until Z313.
...

Show us the damage that is "undisputedly" visible in Altgens 6.
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A Dallas police officer actually put a pencil through the hole to confirm it was a hole.

Who was that?
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