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       It's to the point now that anyone that does Not agree with you is producing a "fantasy".  That's tired and plain weak. You're better than this. I've seen it.

Anyone who makes up things that aren't true and insists they are true is a fantasist.
That's you Royell.
It's got nothing to do with agreeing or not agreeing with me.
You don't agree with reality. That's the problem.
Your constant insistence that Weigman can be seen running across the knoll in the Bell film is utterly bizarre. It's delusional. It has nothing to do with agreeing with me.
This forum is littered with the nonsense you have made up out of thin air and that you insist must be treated seriously.

Making up fantasies has got nothing to do with agreeing with me.
So you can stop crying about that, grow up and join the real world.

PS: I had a funny feeling Brian wasn't going to able to back up his claim about Sandy Larsen and it appears to be the case. But I stated that I would be willing to concede the point if he did so and that is still the case. That's called being reasonable, Royell. Give it a try some time.
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It means that most Americans didn't fall for the lies, hoaxes, and decade long media propaganda to keep an establishment figure that they could control in the WH.  No other such person could have done it.  The establishment has a lock on power in this country using the system and money to stay in power.  They have run the national debt up to $40 trillion and counting with approximately half of Americans not paying any taxes.  That is not sustainable.  The only real change will come when that house of cards collapses.  None of that has anything to do with your paranoid fantasies regarding Russia.  Russia is a paper tiger mired in a stalemate in a war that they could have won in a single week had they the abilities that you attribute to them.   This is a self-inflicted situation.

You've been thoroughly zombified, Herr Smith.
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Where can i get a good quality Couch film? my copy is poor and i can't discern ANYTHING Royell mentioned there.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Is This Our Man?
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 05:21:39 PM »
You are just adding confusion...

That man and his plaid shirt have nothing to do with anything...

  Now, you are running away from a legit Doppelganger Lovelady Plaid Shirt. And for a very good reason! 
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Sandy Larsen matched the plaid bars on Lovelady's shirt to those on the shirt of the man going up the extension beyond any reasonable doubt..

I find this very difficult to believe.
If this were true you would have pointed us to this evidence.
It would not surprise me if this turned out to be another of your fantasies but I'm open to being proven wrong.
If you can really provide another clear piece of analysis that shows Lovelady's shirt and that is nothing to do with the Sprague print I will concede that it is Lovelady and Shelley on the Elm Street extension, even though it flies in the face of all other available evidence and appears to be a physical impossibility.

Where can I find Larsen's analysis?

       It's to the point now that anyone that does Not agree with you is producing a "fantasy".  That's tired and plain weak. You're better than this. I've seen it.
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Although I am completely new on the forum, I am not new to the internet.  I am not new to childish sarcastic attacks on the truth such as the one that was made above me.  Quite the contrary.  I have experienced them everywhere on the internet.  I have come to expect that whenever I go anywhere and tell the truth about anything, I will be subject to such immature childish attacks, which are actually very revealing about the people making the attacks.  For example, the person who attacked me above did not address any of the points I made very eloquently to state why that I believe Jackie is the assassin of her own husband.  He just mocked and ridiculed and dissmissed the entire concept of what I was saying without addressing it as a factual possibility at all.  I am well accustomed to such tactics.  This is not just happening on this forum.  It is happening everywhere across the internet. Why is it that truth is hated and mocked and ridiculed in this world and lies and deception and ignorance are promoted so strongly, especially inside America?  This topic goes far beyond the JFK assassination.  It goes to the heart of what American society is.  America is supposed to be the most technically advanced country in the world, and perhaps we are that, but spirtually (which another way of saying truthfully) it is my experience that the American people are the most ignorant and deceived people on earth, who are so brainwashed that they no longer care about truth.  Truth to them is what the mass herd of people believe it to be.  They do not think for themselves.  They do not question.  Their minds are like closed boxes and they are unable to think.  All they can do is jump on the bandwagon of what someone else has given them to believe.  As someone who cares about truth, I am greatly dismayed at what I see in the vast majority of American people.  I consider myself a truth sayer who is trying to wake people up, but its almost impossible to wake up most Americans in this day and age.  We live in an age of deception, where deception is truth and actual truth is attacked and degraded as "Fake News" and "Conspiracy Theories" to be mocked and ridiculed by such fine people as Jerry Freeman.  I find this extremely sad.  I do not expect anything I say here to make one bit of a difference in the big scheme of things, but I think it is important to state what I believe to be the truth.  Here is the truth about the JFK assassination that goes far beyond the assassination itself:  America in 2018 is a very heavily deceived society, where lies are promoted as truth, and actual truth has become lies.  American society itself is a lie.  It can only continue to exist if the American people believe all the lies they have been told.  So the liars and deceivers and mockers and ridiculers are king in American society and people who only want the truth to be known are mocked and belittled and put down.  This is the truth and yet I will certainly be mocked and ridiculed even for saying these words by those who hate and despise the truth.  As I said before, I am fully willing to back up what I said about the JFK assassination with actual evidence, the Zapruder film itself.  I consider it a great and worthy caused to spread truth and back it up with evidence, and let the mockers and ridiculers do what they do best.  Of course Jerry Freeman is a Hero Member of this forum.  I would expect nothing less.

well…….  seems mssr. Doyle has met his match, uh…….
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The man is Weigman and, as you say, he is sprawled across the steps from where he filmed the Hesters. He is just about to get up and race down the knoll to film the Newman's.

The problem is Royell.
I am trying to synchronise various films and photographs to get as good an estimate as possible for how long after the headshot the Darnell footage begins.
Royell has constantly tried to derail these attempts and one of his tactics is to make up nonsense off the top of his head that I then have to prove wrong.
Royell believes that the figure in question is not sprawling across the steps, as is obvious to anyone with half a brain, but that he is running across the knoll towards Zapruder. It is utterly bizarre but he just keeps on insisting this is the case even though the man is not moving and is clearly sprawled across the steps.

    You simply do Not understand the layout of the Knoll, and Wiegman being filmed by Couch. At what point do you believe that Wiegman moves (W)? Wiegman has to move (W) from his position on the Bell Film, in order to then run Down the knoll and arrive near the Newman family. Wiegman is filmed running DOWN the knoll on the Couch Film.
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I find this very difficult to believe.
If this were true you would have pointed us to this evidence.
It would not surprise me if this turned out to be another of your fantasies but I'm open to being proven wrong.
If you can really provide another clear piece of analysis that shows Lovelady's shirt and that is nothing to do with the Sprague print I will concede that it is Lovelady and Shelley on the Elm Street extension, even though it flies in the face of all other available evidence and appears to be a physical impossibility.

Where can I find Larsen's analysis?


Sandy deleted it about 7 years ago...

Surely there has to be someone on The Education Forum who remembers that analysis...

Clique membership requires the members to pretend they don't remember it...

Sandy then doubled down by saying the woman's dress neckline in the 6th Floor Museum's 1st generation copy of Darnell was a CIA forgery designed to conceal Oswald work shirt collar...They let Larsen get away with that and Iler is preventing any honest discussion of Sandy's pathetic move...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Is This Our Man?
« Last post by Brian Doyle on Yesterday at 05:07:09 PM »

You are just adding confusion...

That man and his plaid shirt have nothing to do with anything...
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He is sprawled  across the steps with just his feet extending beyond onto the grass is the way it looks to me. What’s the problem with thaf?

   This is yet another JFK Assassination Urban Legend that has simply been repeated until being accepted as being a fact. Wiegman has NEVER said he laid down/across the steps. No eyewitness has EVER said that they saw Wiegman laying down/across the steps. And, the Bell Film shows this figure to be FACING in the direction of the (S) portion of the Zapruder Perch. That figure is Not facing Mrs Hester on the ground.
   Gary Mack filmed a Knoll walk-through with Wiegman for, " Unsolved History JFK, Death in Dealey Plaza" (2003). So, we have Gary Mack with Wiegman walking all over the Knoll, almost standing in the shadow of the Sixth Floor Museum, yet Mack did NOT bother to show Wiegman the Bell Film to detail exactly what we are seeing on the Bell film. At a minimum, Mack should have shown Wiegman the Bell Film in the hope of jogging his memory. There is a reason why the "curator" of the Sixth Floor Museum dropped the ball here.
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