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This is where your ignorance is put on full display. The occipitoparietal area Carrico spoke of. It is at the juncture of the parietal and occipital lobes of the brain, aka parieto-occipital sulcus, which is at the upper rear of the cranial vault. I'm not pretending to be any sort of medical expert but this is something that can be determined through a google search. If I really were a medical expert, I wouldn't have had to look it up. Perhaps MTG should have done the same before he posted.

Carrico's placement of the defect in the skull is consistent with the autopsy report which indicated the defect in the skull was chiefly parietal but extending into the occipital and temporal regions.
This is where MTG ventures into Fantasyland. There was no forgery of the x-rays. How does one forge an x-ray?
MTG loves to cite doctors outside their area of expertise. Mantik is a radiation oncologist. He's treats cancer patients.
Yes, the defect did extend into the occipital bone as well as the temporal bone but was chiefly parietal. That means it extended all long the upper right side of JFK's head. The Z-film shows a flap of skull hanging down from the upper right side of JFK's head after the head shot. MTG likes to ignore the references to the parietal and temporal regions and pretend the defect was entirely in the occipital region. The reality, only the rear tip of the defect was in the occipital area.
Thank you for that opinion Dr. Griffith. Give your vast knowledge of forensic medicine, it is a wonder you were not invited to join the FPP.
Call me crazy, but I'll go with the unanimous conclusion of the FPP over yours. They got to see all the photos and x-rays from the autopsy and they had a wee bit more experience than you do in the field of forensic medicine.
Maybe it's you who has been influenced by reading so much nonsense over the years. I take that back. There is no maybe about that.

Yeah, uh-huh. This is just another display of your pitiful knowledge of the evidence, and of your penchant for distortion, evasion, and omission. It is also another display of your embarrassing inability to correctly format your replies. I guess the simple push-button formatting commands are just too complicated for you to figure out.

Your entire answer for the historic hard scientific evidence of the OD measurements is to note that Dr. Mantik is a radiation oncologist, as if that somehow proves the OD measurements are invalid, when in fact it makes them all the more compelling because a big part of his job is making and correctly analyzing OD measurements. Plus, as I know you know, two other medical experts, Dr. Michael Chesser and Dr. Gary Aguilar, did their own OD measurements, which confirmed Mantik's OD measurements.

I should add that all three of those medical experts have done a great deal of reading in forensic science literature, which is why their writings, especially Dr. Mantik's, contain many references to forensic sources. You'd know this if you'd bothered to read their research.

I notice you ignored the fact that Dr. Artwohl, a staunch WC defender, admitted that the autopsy photos show intact cerebral cortex in the exact spot of the cowlick site, just as Dr. Riley observed, and just as Dr. Mantik confirmed. Do you somehow not grasp that this debunks the cowlick site?

In response to the fact that Dr. Ebersole said a large late-arriving skull fragment was occipital bone, and to the fact that Dr. Boswell said part of the rear head entry wound was contained in one of the late-arriving skull fragments, you say "the defect did extend into the occipital bone," but then a few paragraphs later you once again dishonestly appeal to the "unanimous conclusion of the FPP," even though the FPP denied that the wound extended into the occiput!

I've pointed out the contradictory, dishonest nature of your use of the FPP's findings on several occasions, but you continue to peddle your distortions. 

Furthermore, you obviously do not understand that the occipital fragment that Dr. Boswell said contained part of the rear head entry wound would have had to come from the middle part of the occiput, since the wound was only 1 cm above the EOP. Humes and Finck never, ever said the large head wound extended that far into the occiput, much less that a large amount of occipital bone was missing.

Boswell, however, to his great credit, did admit via his wound diagram for the ARRB that a sizable piece of occipital bone was missing, confirming Dr. Ebersole's disclosure to the HSCA that a large late-arriving fragment from Dallas was occipital bone.

Moreover, you keep refusing to face the fact that you cannot accept the EOP entry site, much less believe that the large head wound extended even slightly into the occiput, without repudiating the autopsy brain photos as utterly fraudulent. Do you just not have the education necessary to understand the implication of the fact that the brain photos show no damage to the cerebellum and no damage to the right and left occipital lobes?

It is specious and dishonest of you to keep selectively appealing to the "unanimous conclusion of the FPP" when the FPP themselves pointed out that the brain photos categorically make it impossible to accept the EOP entry site -- assuming, of course, that the brain photos are authentic.

How many times does it have to be pointed out to you that no bullet could have entered the EOP site without tearing through the right occipital lobe, just as the FPP correctly noted?

However, if you accept the EOP site, you must reject the brain photos as bogus and embrace the cowlick site. But, uh-oh, the autopsy photos refute the cowlick site because they show intact cerebral cortex exactly in the cowlick site's location.

Additionally, if the large head wound extended even slightly into the occipital bone from the right parietal bone, how in the world could the right occipital lobe have remained undamaged? Here, again, the FPP's conclusions wreak havoc with your position, since the FPP correctly noted that the brain photos show no damage to the right occipital lobe (indeed, they cited this as another objection to the EOP site).

Are you really incapable of understanding the self-evident fact that if a bullet blasted even a tiny amount of skull from the top part of the occiput, this would have done significant damage to the right occipital lobe (and probably would have caused some damage to the left lobe as well), since the occipital lobe lies directly behind the top half of the occiput? 

I see that you also punted on the fact that the only way anyone could have seen damage to the cerebellum, much less blood and fluid dripping from the cerebellum, would have been if occipital bone was missing in the area of the cerebellum, which is the lower half of the occiput.

You keep hiding behind the phony argument that no one who is not a doctor is qualified to make this point, yet you ignore the fact that many medical doctors have also made this point.

You don't have to hold medical agree to look at diagrams of the skull and of the brain and see where the cerebellum is located inside the skull. You can look in hundreds of online medical sources on anatomy and see that the cerebellum is located only at the lower half of the occipital bone and nowhere else.

If you just do a Google search, you'll learn the following:

The cerebellum sits directly beneath the occipital lobe at the lower back of the brain, and both structures are protected by the occipital bone of the skull (the occiput).

For your education, here are some medical diagrams of the occiput, the cerebellum, and the occipital lobe:

OCCIPUT:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occipital_bone#/media/File:Occipital_bone_lateral2.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occipital_bone#/media/File:Occipital_bone_-_animation_02.gif

CEREBELLUM:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebellum#/media/File:Gehirn,_lateral_-_Lobi_+_Stammhirn_+_Cerebellum_eng.svg

https://www.flintrehab.com/cerebellum-brain-damage/

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/23418-cerebellum

OCCIPITAL LOBE

https://www.flintrehab.com/occipital-lobe-stroke/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebellum#/media/File:Gehirn,_lateral_-_Lobi_+_Stammhirn_+_Cerebellum_eng.svg

https://qbi.uq.edu.au/brain/brain-anatomy/lobes-brain

And, just FYI (but more for the benefit of other readers), I've read many, many sources on forensic science and wound ballistics, as well as on anatomy and physiology. In contrast, it is obvious you know next to nothing about these subjects.


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It does fly.  A)  Look at the Zapruder film.  B) Look at the autopsy photos (or are these "fake" as your party says) C.  Use common sense.  Perhaps you have overlooked the fact that any blood or brain tissue that would landed on the back rest of the back seat would have been immediately severely disturbed when Mrs. Kennedy raised out of the seat and attempted to climb from seat onto the trunk. LOOK AT Mrs. Kennedy's POSITION AGAINST THE BACK SEAT Brian. Are going to deny that Mrs. Kennedy's hips and lower body are right up against the seat in the very location your "blood splatter" is on the seat?  Come on! Your entire theory is ludicrous and ridiculous.


You're not answering what was written...

The Blood Splatter is exactly where it would be if there was a shot from the front and Occipital exit wound...

There is zero where Carrico's wound needs it to be...

That's why they do blood splatter analysis because it is forensically accurate...

Pitzer proved there was a covert pre-autopsy to alter the wounds...

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No, that doesn't fly...In the photo I referenced, of the limousine back seat at Parkland, you can see the out-shoot, blood splatter on the top of the seat cushion is rearward at an angle that fits the Occipital would perfectly...If Carrico's lie that the side of the head was avulsed were true then the out-shoot would be roughly to the right side of the limo towards the Knoll...But we don't see that in the photo I referenced...Instead we see the gore from the plug of brain, skull, and scalp from the ejected Occipital material landing right where it would have in the back seat as well as the blood splatter at an angle that forensically indicates a shot from the front...

 It does fly.  A)  Look at the Zapruder film.  B) Look at the autopsy photos (or are these "fake" as your party says) C.  Use common sense.  Perhaps you have overlooked the fact that any blood or brain tissue that would landed on the back rest of the back seat would have been immediately severely disturbed when Mrs. Kennedy raised out of the seat and attempted to climb from seat onto the trunk. LOOK AT Mrs. Kennedy's POSITION AGAINST THE BACK SEAT Brian. Are going to deny that Mrs. Kennedy's hips and lower body are right up against the seat in the very location your "blood splatter" is on the seat?  Come on! Your entire theory is ludicrous and ridiculous.   
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That is something CTs conveniently ignore. They tell us what a crappy rifle the Carcano was. They tell us how badly the scope was misaligned. They ignore the fact that Oswald's Carcano was positively match to the three spent shells found at the sniper's nest, CE399,
and the fragmented bullet found in the limo the night of the assassination to the exclusion of all other weapons in the world. That means that SOMEBODY used that rife to kill JFK. We have ample forensic evidence that tells us that somebody was the guy who owned the rifle. The Carcano wasn't the greatest battlefield rifle ever produced but it was good enough to get the job done.

   So we have 2 shots from the same WW 2 Bolt Action Rifle resulting in: (1) A Head Exploding, and (2) The SBT.  BS:   
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Oswald’s account then of going  “out front” and he having selected out all the employees he could have selected, Jarman and Norman , would suggest that Oswald was sitting in the Domino room 1st floor at approx 12:23. He saw J/N returning thru the back loading dock door, Oswald then went to the front entrance lobby at 12:25 and he was looking thru the glass wall when he was seen by  Carolyn Arnold looking back at the TSBD.


All you are doing there is honoring Bart Kamp's already-refuted rubbish...

Just the bare skin of Sarah Stanton's chest, as seen in the 6th Floor Museum's 1st generation copy of Darnell, is proof enough that Prayer Man is rubbish...The whole theory was admitted to me by Greg Parker to have originated from himself and was then taken up by Sean Murphy...Greg Parker is an evidence-hacker and research undermining troll...

You have to be able to locate Sarah Stanton in order to prove she is somewhere else other than in the Prayer Man position...The Prayer Man people have not been able to credibly do that...Instead they gang up...Offer completely fabricated BS...And then work their crony moderators, podcasters, and insider clique in order to censor those with the correct evidence...

Any researcher with any common sense and research ability will realize Prayer Man has been proven to be Sarah Stanton six ways to Sunday and it needs to be accepted as refuted...
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Why would you go through all these mental gymnastics when there is a simple, straight forward, and obvious solution. Oswald shot and killed JFK and left the rifle behind as he fled the scene of the crime. That answer is compatible with all the available evidence. It is the only answer that is compatible with all the available evidence.


We have already excluded that premise by multiple means from the paraffin test, to Sarah Stanton hearing Oswald say he was going back in to the Break Room, to Mrs Garner failing to see Oswald course across the 4th Floor staircase landing when required...Hosty admitted to Nigel Turner that Oswald said he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room alone during the assassination...

To ignore all this is to pretend a falsehood that is intolerable under the circumstances...
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Dear Michael T. "Useful Idiot" Griffith,

Speaking of heads, perhaps you should have yours examined.

-- Tom

Nobody cares, at least not coming from an amateur like yourself with zero training or experience in the field of forensic medicine.

Why did you need a fourth edition? Did the first three suck?

Of course these two oddballs immediately dismiss the article, clearly without bothering to read it.

As some here may know, Corbett has proven he can't even read English at a high-school level, while Graves continues to accuse anyone who disagrees with him of being a witting or unwitting Russian asset. It's a tossup as to which one of them is the oddest and farthest on the fringe.

Graves goes back and forth between calling me "Comrade" (a witting Russian asset) and "Useful Idiot" (an unwitting Russian asset).

But at least Graves is able to understand English at a high-school level, whereas Corbett has committed astounding gaffes because he failed to comprehend even short quoted statements that were presented to him numerous times.
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  As are you, Brian.  President Kennedy was already leaning "noticeably to his left" just before the fatal shot. 


No, that doesn't fly...In the photo I referenced, of the limousine back seat at Parkland, you can see the out-shoot, blood splatter on the top of the seat cushion is rearward at an angle that fits the Occipital would perfectly...If Carrico's lie that the side of the head was avulsed were true then the out-shoot would be roughly to the right side of the limo towards the Knoll...But we don't see that in the photo I referenced...Instead we see the gore from the plug of brain, skull, and scalp from the ejected Occipital material landing right where it would have in the back seat as well as the blood splatter at an angle that forensically indicates a shot from the front...

 
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This is where your ignorance is put on full display. The occipitoparietal area Carrico spoke of. It is at the juncture of the parietal and occipital lobes of the brain, aka parieto-occipital sulcus, which is at the upper rear of the cranial vault. I'm not pretending to be any sort of medical expert but this is something that can be determined through a google search. If I really were a medical expert, I wouldn't have had to look it up. Perhaps MTG should have done the same before he posted.

Carrico's placement of the defect in the skull is consistent with the autopsy report which indicated the defect in the skull was chiefly parietal but extending into the occipital and temporal regions.
This is where MTG ventures into Fantasyland. There was no forgery of the x-rays. How does one forge an x-ray?
MTG loves to cite doctors outside their area of expertise. Mantik is a radiation oncologist. He's treats cancer patients.
Yes, the defect did extend into the occipital bone as well as the temporal bone but was chiefly parietal. That means it extended all long the upper right side of JFK's head. The Z-film shows a flap of skull hanging down from the upper right side of JFK's head after the head shot. MTG likes to ignore the references to the parietal and temporal regions and pretend the defect was entirely in the occipital region. The reality, only the rear tip of the defect was in the occipital area.
Thank you for that opinion Dr. Griffith. Give your vast knowledge of forensic medicine, it is a wonder you were not invited to join the FPP.
Call me crazy, but I'll go with the unanimous conclusion of the FPP over yours. They got to see all the photos and x-rays from the autopsy and they had a wee bit more experience than you do in the field of forensic medicine.
Maybe it's you who has been influenced by reading so much nonsense over the years. I take that back. There is no maybe about that.
 
  You surely do love to hear yourself talk and read what you write, Michael G.   Bad thing, though.  It's all rubbish when it come to the head wound President Kennedy suffered.
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People who read the other side of the story are going to wonder how anyone could say there is "not one piece of corroborating evidence of a plot in Chicago." There is plenty of evidence when reasonable rules of analysis are followed. Part of the problem with your dismissal is that you apply unreasonable, draconian criteria to pro-conspiracy evidence and witnesses but apply very different and far laxer criteria to anti-conspiracy evidence and witnesses. You view the slightest variation in accounts as proof of fraud if the accounts favor conspiracy, but you apply no such standard to pro-conspiracy accounts.

What you are saying is that Abraham Bolden simply fabricated the whole story. Why would he have done this? He had a sterling reputation and a stainless record until he was framed after the assassination. Accusing Bolden of outright fabrication requires that you explain why the SS and the DOJ framed him soon after the assassination. No objective reader who examines the facts that we now know about Bolden's prosecution can deny that he was framed and abused.

Secret Service investigators followed two leads relating to the Chicago plot:

-- On Thursday 31 October, a landlady telephoned the Chicago police, telling them that she had discovered four rifles in one of her rooms which was rented to a group of four men. The police informed the Secret Service, who took two of the four men into custody the next day. There are no records of any weapons having been discovered. The two men were interrogated, but insisted they were not part of a conspiracy to murder JFK.

-- An unknown source accused Thomas Arthur Vallee of threatening to assassinate JFK. Although Vallee was not associated with the two men in custody, he appeared to be a right–wing extremist and he certainly owned several guns and a large quantity of ammunition. At about 9 o’clock on Sat. morning, two hours before Kennedy was due to land at O’Hare, Vallee was stopped by the police on the pretext of having committed a minor driving offence, and was arrested. Vallee reportedly asked for a day off on the day scheduled for JFK's Chicago visit.

Also, the HSCA was unable to determine why JFK's Chicago trip was suddenly cancelled. Why was JFK's Chicago visit suddenly cancelled? Bolden's account is a plausible explanation for why the Chicago trip was suddenly called off.

Online articles on the Chicago plot:

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Bolden_Cleared_The_Full_Story.html

http://22november1963.org.uk/jfk-assassination-plot-chicago

https://www.thechicagoplot.com/The%20Chicago%20Plot.pdf

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/review-of-the-plot-to-kill-president-kennedy-in-chicago

Videos on the Chicago plot:



I should add that I am skeptical of much of what Bolden told the Luna Committee. He appeared to be rather non-lucid. I believe he was telling the truth in previous years, but he didn't strike me as being lucid enough before the Luna Committee to be credible.

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