JFK Assassination Forum

The JFKA has become only a prop with which to promote one's demented ideologies and ethnic hatreds.

You're the exception, right?

So Norman under the window and JC being hit in the car basically corroborate each other with description of 3 shits  fired in less than 5 secs.

Maybe the shooter was using a rifle like the Rifleman Chuck Connors which could explain Norman hearing the click click sound while also recalling 3 shots fired quicker than could be probably fired using an MC rifle.

It might explain Will Fritz picking up shells from
the the SN floor BEFORE they were photographed, carrying then around for a while and  he returns later, placing them back down in position as seen in the photographs.

    Those "2 Guys" alongside the "getaway" car above, just exited that vehicle. DPD Officer Smith, (on the (L)), just ran past the driver side of their car, and they witnessed DPD Motorcycle officer Baker, ( running behind them), rounding the corner and parking his motorcycle along the Elm St Curb. All of this is happening about 20 seconds after the Kill Shot. These conspirators did Not anticipate law enforcement being all around them this quickly. They are now distancing themselves from this "getaway" car and heading toward the "wide open" Huge Gates. Their expected passenger(s) would soon be exiting those same "wide open" Huge Gates.

It looks to me in both Kamps image as well as the darker image that the guy is wearing a SHORT sleeve shirt .

In my made up scenario the pics above show Bill Shelley in New Orleans hanging around with the Pro-Castro crowd. This can possibly tied in with his reported CIA affiliations (or not)
Oswald is part of the same crowd. This way Shelley can know who Oswald is and that he is a Pro-Castro Marxist. He can also know about Oswald being an ex-Marine who defected to Russia. Shelley can set up Oswald telling him that he is part of some Pro-Castro stunt at the TSBD.
Another handy piece of evidence are the reports that Oswald included Bill Shelley as part of his alibi for leaving the TSBD on the day of the assassination. While being questioned Oswald reportedly said he only left the TSBD as a result of a conversation with Shelley. Oswald is not stupid. He knows its the easiest thing in the world for this alibi to be checked, so he must have been fully expecting Shelley to back him up. If he had no relationship with Shelley he would never have mentioned him and he wouldn't expect Shelley to back him up if it was a lie.
Why would Oswald expect Bill Shelley to cover for him>

On the day of the assassination Shelley and Lovelady gave affidavits to the Dallas Police Department.
These are the initial statements they made regarding their activities around the time of the assassination.
By "initial" I mean that these are the very first official statements they made.
In his affidavit Shelley basically said that, after the shots he ran across the Elm Street Extension, met Gloria Calvery coming the other way, returned to the building and went inside to phone his wife.
In his affidavit Lovelady states that after the shooting he went back inside the building.

In their later lies both men insist that after the shooting they stood on the steps for around 3 minutes, spoke with Gloria Calvery, wandered across to the concrete spur that divides the Elm Streets, saw Truly and Baker outside the building, wandered down to the railroad yard where they stayed for a few minutes, then entered the building via the little known west door.
Both men forget to mention all this in their initial statements because what they actually did was as follows:

Both men were stood on the front steps when the shots were fired.
Shelley ran across the extension and bumped into a distraught Gloria Calvery who was screaming that the President had been shot. He ran back to the steps with her while she told Lovelady, and everyone else on the steps about the shooting. While this was happening Baker arrives and goes up the front steps into the lobby. Shelley, Lovelady and Truly go up the steps and enter the lobby. Shelley and Lovelady make their way to the back of the first floor while Baker is talking to Truly. Adams sees Shelley and Lovelady as she races to the back door. Seconds later Baker and Truly arrive on the scene where Baker sees the two white men who can only be Shelley and Lovelady.

   Thanks. You basically believe Shelley and Lovelady lied in their WC Testimonies.
   Your having Lovelady and Shelley go through the TSBD front door and then walk back to the freight elevator, throws off the WC timeline of Truly and Baker going back there. And likewise, Baker then confronting Oswald inside the 2nd floor lunchroom. You are resetting those timelines.