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Those who defend the WC are defending the truth. The one and only truth. You are entitled to believe any ridiculous scenario you want but there is only one truth. If you reject that one, you aren't entitled to a different one of your liking.

Those who defend the obvious lies of the Warren Commission Report need some kind of mental inspection.
It is very possible that you are some kind of extreme lunatic with whom any kind of rational debate is impossible.
Has that ever occurred to you?
Remember - you are like a little child who has had their opinions provided for them. You haven't thought for yourself. You've just swallowed down what you've been told to swallow down.
I've worked for my knowledge and insights.

It's possible that you are just a gigantic loser.
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Lance belongs to the Lunatic Fringe of Nutters. Tinfoil Nutters. Just like John Corbett and "Richard Smith"
Then there are LNers like Charles Collins and John Mytton.
Honest researchers who have worked their way to their own conclusions.
Not like the spoon-fed losers who have recently emerged on this forum.

Dan unwittingly and witlessly raises an interesting question: What is "research," anyway?

Dan seems to think that looking at photos and deciding what he sees, the experts be damned, constitutes research. Ya think? "That ain't Shelley and Lovelady on the sidewalk, and thus Bart Kamp must have faked his photo showing that it is, but I don't have the balls to confront Bart directly" - is that research? Ya think? Is Dan a researcher ... or just a blowhard?

I have said previously that I was amused to see myself called a "JFKA researcher" upon making one significant but purely dumb-luck discovery after an hour of goofing around on Google. (After nearly 50 years of using the legal search engine LEXIS, I am pretty good at formulating queries.)

I did spend 40 years in legal research because my practice focused largely on complex motions and appellate briefs. I know what research looks like, and it's damn hard work. When a JFKA factoid interests me enough to explore it, I do research. To wit:

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4962.msg178234.html#msg178234

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4559.0.html

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4484.msg168589.html#msg168589

I have now actually researched perhaps 25 of these. Each one was an absurd amount of work.

So what is "research" in the mind someone like Dan? Point us to some of yours, Dan.
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There were 3 shots fired and only 2 struck inside the limo so no matter who you think fired it or where you think they fired it from, somebody missed the entire limo.

That's correct.
Wow. We're agreeing

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Not surprising because there is no reason to think anyone was trying to shoot the limo.

Obvious. No-one has ever suggested that the limo was the target so you're on safe ground. So I have to agree but I am concerned you might be talking sh£t.

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# The forensic evidence tells us unmistakably the person who missed the limo was Oswald.

Knobhead.
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IS IT PLAUSIBLE OSWALD COULD HAVE COMPLETELY MISSED THE LIMO WITH HIS FIRST SHOT?

NO

There were 3 shots fired and only 2 struck inside the limo so no matter who you think fired it or where you think they fired it from, somebody missed the entire limo. Not surprising because there is no reason to think anyone was trying to shoot the limo. The forensic evidence tells us unmistakably the person who missed the limo was Oswald.
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The irony of you posting this is truly Meta.
Tinfoil Nutters such as yourself are just as damaging but at least Jake isn't aware of the damage he does.
At least he doesn't mean it.
What kind of loser spends his time upholding the ridiculous lies of the Warren Commission?
What kind of loser defends the Warren Commission 63 years after the fact?
Get a life.

Those who defend the WC are defending the truth. The one and only truth. You are entitled to believe any ridiculous scenario you want but there is only one truth. If you reject that one, you aren't entitled to a different one of your liking.
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The JFK Assassination - Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 12:15:16 AM »
The Secret Service agents in the follow-up car reported reacting immediately to the sound of a shot.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

As we can see in Altgens-6, John Ready, Paul Landis, William "Tim" McIntyre, and George Hickey reacted strongly to Oswald's second shot, which had occurred about two seconds earlier.

About five seconds before THAT, Ready, Bennett, and Hickey had consciously reacted "immediately" to Oswald's missing-everything first shot.

-- Tom
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::) Oh, the irony.  ::)

The irony of you posting this is truly Meta.
Tinfoil Nutters such as yourself are just as damaging but at least Jake isn't aware of the damage he does.
At least he doesn't mean it.
What kind of loser spends his time upholding the ridiculous lies of the Warren Commission?
What kind of loser defends the Warren Commission 63 years after the fact?
Get a life.
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Hiya Tom, I've seen you post so much over recent years but don't have the first clue what you actually think about the assassination.
What do you think and why do you think it?

I think that some very influential people were alarmed enough in reaction to demands growing stronger in 1966 - 67 to reopen the flawed WC investigsation
to influence them to make the proposals to reopen the JFKA investigation appear to be ridiculous, fringe.

After the 3 hour jury deliberation resulting in the Shaw not guilty verdict, there was no additional official inquiry for the next seven years, until 1975.

Garrison landed on his feet, after representing himself and miraculous winning not guilty verdicts on all federal charges. Considering a federal department of justice
conviction rate above 90%, it is not unreasonable to believe he had played his part in what amounted to a show trial.

The late Tom Purvis argued strenuously in posts on the Ed Forum that Garrison had people much more powerful than he in the New Orleans power structure,
some of which is comprised of secret societies that to this day do not reveal their membership. He shared that Burke's daughter, his wife, and her mother had all been Queens of Comus.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistick_Krewe_of_Comus
....Carnival secrecy and exclusivity
The Mistick Krewe has jealously guarded the identities of its membership and the privacy of its activities (other than its parade), perhaps even more than the other Carnival organizations subscribing to the traditional code of secrecy.
....Meeting of the courts
The Mistick Krewe of Comus also originated another Carnival tradition: the "Meeting of the Courts". The practice originated in 1882, when Rex (the King of Carnival) and his Queen paid a formal visit to the throne of Comus.[8] This ritualized meeting eventually evolved into the symbolic conclusion of the Mardi Gras season, a practice which continues to this day.

Although Rex is the titular King, some observers[who?] believe that the Meeting of the Courts – in which Rex leaves his own festivities and is received by a seated Comus at the Mistick Krewe's bal masque – establishes Comus as the more prestigious of the two organizations in the Carnival hierarchy....

Seems an impressive amount of heavy lifting, if indeed the JFKA assassin was in truth a lone nut acting outside of any conspiracy!

Who "owned" Willard Robertson? He came to NOLA around 1950 to set up a sales office for a West Haven, CT small metal hull boat builder
that soon went bankrupt. He left his wife and two children for the 23 year old secretary he hired.  Somehow, he landed exclusive importation
and distribution rights for Volkswagen of America southeast region dealerships. He became an important financial backer of both Garrison's
and the then Governor's political careers.

He died in 1983, leaving an estate reported to be $30 million. He was the only "nobody" selected by Volkswagen for a regional distribution monopoly....
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/803/136/381311/?__cf_chl_f_tk=zrqboHTKHit.HG7jUPDwcZZnrvPoA72ZRZHRHefGOYc-1783035456-1.0.1.1-NU47McDgs9gZOO_hjsNT5XWv3_65gaiQmmkb.ap7xZA

Playing "both sides"...

Ed Butler's first cousin Rance was Gordon Novel's partner and Novel was ushered into this saga by Robertson.

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https://www.jfk-online.com/jpsebinca.htmlJerry P. Shinley Archive: Ed Butler and the Information Council of the ...
Prominently on hand was Volkswagen dealer Willard E. Robertson, who donated a microbus (NOTP; June 8, 1962; Section 3, p 11). Interestingly, it was Robertson who recommended Gordon Novel to Jim Garrison...
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I wonder, Jake, if you fully understand the damage you do.

 ::) Oh, the irony.  ::)
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I wonder, Jake, if you fully understand the damage you do.
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