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   And I haven't discovered the most important evidence discovery of our generation...
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MTG deftly describes a classic witness who told the truth about the rear exit wound and was then gotten to...


Something seen many times in the Assassination...
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Here's is Mrs. Kennedy's description (11/29/63) as reported by Theodore White:

"They were gunning the motorcycles. There were these little backfires. There was one noise like that. I thought it was a backfire..."
"Then next I saw Connally grabbing his arms and saying "no, no, no, no, no," with his fist beating. Then Jack turned and I turned. All I remember was a blue-gray building up ahead. Then Jack turned back so neatly, his last expression was so neat... you know that wonderful expression he had when they'd ask him a question about one of the ten million pieces they have in a rocket, just before he'd answer."
"He looked puzzled, then he slumped forward. He was holding out his hand ... I could see a piece of his skull coming off. It was flesh-colored, not white - he was holding out his hand ... I can see this perfectly clean piece detaching itself from his head. Then he slumped in my lap, his blood and his brains were in my lap ... Then Clint Hill [the Secret Service man], he loved us, he made my life so easy, he was the first man in the car ... We all lay down in the car ... And I kept saying, Jack, Jack, Jack, and someone was yelling "he's dead, he's dead." All the ride to the hospital I kept bending over him, saying "Jack, Jack, can you hear me, I love you, Jack."
"His head was so beautiful. I tried to hold the top of his head down, maybe I could keep it in... but I knew he was dead."

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Mine was more of a rhetorical question. Apparently, the question didn't occur to Joseph Ball to ask. He seemed a bit skeptical that Foster had seen a bullet whole in the turf didn't seem to think it was worth pursuing. After Foster testified he had seen a mark on the manhole cover, but when shown a photo of the manhole cover, admitted he could see no mark in the photo.

Mr. BALL - Did you see any marks on the street in anyplace?
Mr. FOSTER - No, a manhole cover. It was hit. they caught the manhole cover right on the corner and -
Mr. BALL - You saw a mark on the manhole cover did you?
Mr. FOSTER - Yes sir.
Mr. BALL - I show you a picture here of a concrete slab. or manhole cover. Do you recognize that picture?
Mr. FOSTER - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - Does the picture show - tell me what it shows there.
Mr. FOSTER - This looks like the corner here where it penetrated the turf right here [indicating].
Mr. BALL - See any mark on the manhole cover?
Mr. FOSTER - No, sir; I don't. not on the - well, it is on the turf, on the concrete, right in the corner.

It was not in the angle they showed him
 ::) so what?

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Apparently, the question didn't occur to Joseph Ball to ask. He seemed a bit skeptical that Foster had seen a bullet whole in the turf didn't seem to think it was worth pursuing.

There is a PICTURE of a bullet in the grass.



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All of you criticizing Carrico's location of the exit hole on the head.

Why do you ignore the words of Mrs. Kennedy during her graphic description of its location 7 days after the assassination to Theodore White when he interviewed her?  Why do you do this?  Explain this please, Griffith and Doyle.
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WC never asked.
...they did that a lot.

Mine was more of a rhetorical question. Apparently, the question didn't occur to Joseph Ball to ask. He seemed a bit skeptical that Foster had seen a bullet whole in the turf didn't seem to think it was worth pursuing. After Foster testified he had seen a mark on the manhole cover, but when shown a photo of the manhole cover, admitted he could see no mark in the photo.

Mr. BALL - Did you see any marks on the street in anyplace?
Mr. FOSTER - No, a manhole cover. It was hit. they caught the manhole cover right on the corner and -
Mr. BALL - You saw a mark on the manhole cover did you?
Mr. FOSTER - Yes sir.
Mr. BALL - I show you a picture here of a concrete slab. or manhole cover. Do you recognize that picture?
Mr. FOSTER - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - Does the picture show - tell me what it shows there.
Mr. FOSTER - This looks like the corner here where it penetrated the turf right here [indicating].
Mr. BALL - See any mark on the manhole cover?
Mr. FOSTER - No, sir; I don't. not on the - well, it is on the turf, on the concrete, right in the corner.
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So here we have a prime example of a witness who completely changes his story decades later, yet WC apologists gobble up his new story because it supports their theory of the shooting, i.e., the lone-gunman theory.

When Carrico was interviewed by Harold Weisberg in the late 1960s, he insisted the throat wound was above the collar, just as he told the WC in 1964. He also told Weisberg that he saw no nick in the tie nor slits in the shirt before the nurses began cutting away JFK's clothing.

In his 11/22/63 Parkland Hospital report, which he wrote just hours after seeing JFK's wounds, Carrico said that there was blood oozing from the cerebellum, and that there was a "penetrating" wound in the throat (Parkland Memorial Hospital Admission Note, Dr. James Carrico, 11/22/63, pp. 1-2; CE 392, pp. 4-5).

In his 11/23/63 summary report, Dr. Kemp Clark, the head of neurosurgery at Parkland, reported that Dr. Carrico noted a wound "in the occipital region of the skull" (CE 392, p. 2).

When Carrico testified before the WC four months later, in March 1964, he once again put the wound in the back of the head and also said there was shredded brain tissue in the back of the head:

There was a 5- by 71-cm defect in the posterior skull, the occipital region. There was an absence of the calvarium [skull cap] or skull in this area, with shredded tissue, brain tissue, present, and initially considerable slow oozing. (3 H 361)

When Carrico was interviewed by the HSCA in 1978, he once again put the wound in the back of the head, saying the large head wound was "in the right side of the . . . parietal-occipital area" and that he could see "both cerebellum and cerebrum fragments in that wound" (7 HSCA 268). As most here know, he could not have seen cerebellar fragments in the wound if the wound did not include a substantial part of the right side of the occiput.

Carrico's repeated statements about JFK's wounds discredit the autopsy brain photos, since they show the cerebellum intact, and also discredit the back-of-head autopsy photos, since they show no large head wound that included any part of the occiput. I should add that Carrico's initial descriptions of the large head wound closely match those given by most of the other Parkland doctors, by the two FBI agents at the autopsy, by the two Secret Service agents who observed the body in the morgue right after the autopsy, by the Parkland nurses who cleaned the head wound and packed it with gauze to prepare the body for the casket, and by the three morticians at the autopsy.

But, over 30 years later, in his interview with the Sixth Floor Museum, Carrico uses his right hand to place the large head wound even farther forward than the WC or the HSCA placed it, and you guys just gobble it up. You don't care that he said nothing about his initial description of the wound, given hours after he saw it and repeated by Dr. Clark in his report written the next day, or that he said nothing about the description of the wound that he gave to the WC, or that he said nothing about the description of the wound that he gave to the HSCA. You also don't care that he said nothing about seeing damaged cerebellar tissue in his 11/22/63 admission note, in his March 1964 WC testimony, and in his HSCA interview.

"Nah, never mind all that," right?

Carrico's description of the head wound is consistent with what he told the WC:

Mr. SPECTER - Would you describe as precisely for me as possible the nature of the head wound which you observed on the President?
Dr. CARRICO - The wound that I saw was a large gaping wound, located in the right occipitoparietal area. I would estimate to be about 5 to 7 cm. in size, more or less circular, with avulsions of the calvarium and scalp tissue. As I stated before, I believe there was shredded macerated cerebral and cerebellar tissues both in the wounds and on the fragments of the skull attached to the dura.

Specifically, he located the wound in the "right occipitoparietal area" just as he described in the video.
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So here we have a prime example of a witness who completely changes his story decades later, yet WC apologists gobble up his new story because it supports their theory of the shooting, i.e., the lone-gunman theory.

When Carrico was interviewed by Harold Weisberg in the late 1960s, he insisted the throat wound was above the collar, just as he told the WC in 1964. He also told Weisberg that he saw no nick in the tie nor slits in the shirt before the nurses began cutting away JFK's clothing.

In his 11/22/63 Parkland Hospital report, which he wrote just hours after seeing JFK's wounds, Carrico said that there was blood oozing from the cerebellum, and that there was a "penetrating" wound in the throat (Parkland Memorial Hospital Admission Note, Dr. James Carrico, 11/22/63, pp. 1-2; CE 392, pp. 4-5).

In his 11/23/63 summary report, Dr. Kemp Clark, the head of neurosurgery at Parkland, reported that Dr. Carrico noted a wound "in the occipital region of the skull" (CE 392, p. 2).

When Carrico testified before the WC four months later, in March 1964, he once again put the wound in the back of the head and also said there was shredded brain tissue in the back of the head:

There was a 5- by 71-cm defect in the posterior skull, the occipital region. There was an absence of the calvarium [skull cap] or skull in this area, with shredded tissue, brain tissue, present, and initially considerable slow oozing. (3 H 361)

When Carrico was interviewed by the HSCA in 1978, he once again put the wound in the back of the head, saying the large head wound was "in the right side of the . . . parietal-occipital area" and that he could see "both cerebellum and cerebrum fragments in that wound" (7 HSCA 268). As most here know, he could not have seen cerebellar fragments in the wound if the wound did not include a substantial part of the right side of the occiput.

Carrico's repeated statements about JFK's wounds discredit the autopsy brain photos, since they show the cerebellum intact, and also discredit the back-of-head autopsy photos, since they show no large head wound that included any part of the occiput. I should add that Carrico's initial descriptions of the large head wound closely match those given by most of the other Parkland doctors, by the two FBI agents at the autopsy, by the two Secret Service agents who observed the body in the morgue right after the autopsy, by the Parkland nurses who cleaned the head wound and packed it with gauze to prepare the body for the casket, and by the three morticians at the autopsy.

But, over 30 years later, in his interview with the Sixth Floor Museum, Carrico uses his right hand to place the large head wound even farther forward than the WC or the HSCA placed it, and you guys just gobble it up. You don't care that he said nothing about his initial description of the wound, given hours after he saw it and repeated by Dr. Clark in his report written the next day, or that he said nothing about the description of the wound that he gave to the WC, or that he said nothing about the description of the wound that he gave to the HSCA. You also don't care that he said nothing about seeing damaged cerebellar tissue in his 11/22/63 admission note, in his March 1964 WC testimony, and in his HSCA interview.

"Nah, never mind all that," right?
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I have a rather obvious question. If it ricocheted out, how did he know it was a bullet that went in?

WC never asked.
...they did that a lot.
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