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Huh, so a "specular highlight" takes the appearance of cracks on the windshield? The damage disappears because the angle of the windshield to the camera changes, not because it's a "specular highlight."

As for Altgens 6, I cannot force you to admit you can see what you don't want to admit you can see. Roy Schaeffer noticed the windshield damage in Altgens 6 way back in the 1960s. Anthony DeFiore also identified windshield damage in Altgens 6 and provided high-quality enlargements of the photo showing the damage. Dr. Mantik has likewise identified windshield damage in the photo and in the same area noted by Weldon, DeFiore, and Schaeffer. But, I'm confident you guys will continue to insist you don't see it.

Regarding my photogrammetry, I had to educate you on the meaning of the term "parallax" (although you did catch me in a math gaffe resulting from the PEP's curious use of the term "results"), while Mytton made the hilarious claim that the HSCA PEP found "massive parallax" in the backyard photos, when in fact the PEP explained that the parallax they found was so tiny that it could only be detected with the aid of computer analysis and high magnification.

For the benefit of other readers, regarding the issue of parallax and the backyard rifle photos, parallax is the apparent shift in an object’s position when viewed from two different points; as applied to the backyard photos, it refers to changes in the camera's position between exposures as indicated by the differences in the distances between background objects in the photos.

The HSCA's photographic experts (PEP) found very small differences between the distances in background objects in the 133-A and 133-B backyard rifle photos, differences that were so small they required the use of  “computer-assisted photographic evaluation” and also “examination under magnification with magnifiers and microscopes” to detect (2 HSCA 398, 405). The slight parallax between 133-A and 133-B proves the backyard photos could not have been taken in the manner claimed by the official version.

And note that the PEP only tested for horizontal and vertical parallax and only in two of the photos. Revealingly, they did not test to see if the camera moved angularly in any direction, i.e., if there was any pitch, yaw, or roll in the camera’s position between exposures.

The official story is that Marina Oswald took the three backyard photos and handed the camera to Lee between each exposure so he could forward the film for her. Leaving aside the fact that Marina later said those photos were not the ones she took, if the photos had been taken in this manner, there would have been far greater differences in the distances between background objects in the photos, i.e., the camera's position would have changed much more between exposures, and not just horizontally and vertically but also angularly.

Achieving the extremely small amount of parallax detected in the backyard photos would be difficult to achieve in the alleged circumstances even when using a tripod and a camera that automatically forwarded the film after each exposure. Mr. Brian Mee, an NSA photographer and photographic lab technician, emphasized this point when I interviewed him in the 1990s.

"The HSCA and Fraud in the Backyard Rifle Photos"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JiOqKWO-XJSO-z_lk6bSgUBXq_vD1yZs/view?usp=sharing
MTG: Huh, so a "specular highlight" takes the appearance of cracks on the windshield? The damage disappears because the angle of the windshield to the camera changes, not because it's a "specular highlight."

No, a bullet hole though automotive safety glass --specifically the "frosted" area around the hole-- reflects white no matter the viewing angle so long as you can see the face of the glass.


MTG: Roy Schaeffer noticed the windshield damage in Altgens 6 way back in the 1960s. Anthony DeFiore also identified windshield damage in Altgens 6 and provided high-quality enlargements of the photo showing the damage. Dr. Mantik has likewise identified windshield damage in the photo and in the same area noted by Weldon, DeFiore, and Schaeffer

So where are the "high quality enlargements" that show the damage? Without those, this is just name-dropping a cavalcade of crackpots, as Mark Ulrik has already noted.


MTG: Regarding my photogrammetry

You still have no idea what you're talking about, when you talk about photogrammetry.

And the Gish Gallop you just launched is nothing more than an attempt at a diversion and a fringe reset. All the claims you just made have already been destroyed in other threads. 

 




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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 06:43:31 PM »
Rosemary Willis' head cannot be seen in z150 because she is behind Croft.  When she emerges by z160 her head/hood is turned to the right, which is in the general direction of the President's car.  I can't tell where her eyes are looking so I am surprised that you think you can.

Perhaps you missed the rest of the post.

Here it is, again, for you:


You: Bennett is looking [to his right] in Z-145, but he is not leaning [to his right] any discernible amount.

ME: Bennett is starting to lean to his right in Z-145.

He's leaning to his right even more in Z-150.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z150.jpg


You: If either Hickey or Bennett leans out, it is to look forward.

ME: You're wrong about Hickey but right about Bennett.

Having heard the first shot,

1) George Hickey leans over the side of the car and looks down at the pavement, not "forward" at the limo or the approaching triple underpass, etc.

2) Glen Bennett leans to his right to view JFK around Dave Powers. While looking at JFK, he sees the second shot hit him in the back (lower neck, actually).


Regarding Hickey:


ME: Why did Hickey lean over and look down at the pavement before the second shot rang out?

Google AI: George Hickey leaned forward and looked toward the pavement because he believed a firecracker had exploded on the street right next to the car.

In his official Secret Service Report from November 30, 1963, Hickey explicitly detailed his physical reaction to that first loud noise:

The noise seemed to me to come from a firecracker, and I thought to myself that the kids were playing with firecrackers again... It appeared to come from the right and rear and seemed to me to be at ground level. I heard a report that sounded like a firecracker... I immediately stood up and looked and argued with myself that it was a firecracker.

Because his brain processed the first gunshot as a ground-level firecracker prank rather than a rifle shot from above, his immediate reflex was to look down at the street surface to see where the firecracker had gone off.

. . . . . . .

My comments:

Note that Hickey doesn't say that he stood up and turned around and looked in the direction of the TSBD -- that came a few seconds later (and was famously captured in Altgens-6) after Oswald's second shot at approximately Z-222.

Also note that he said in his 11/22/63 report that the car he was in had travelled a "very short distance" down Elm Street when the aforementioned firecracker-like sound occurred.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 06:37:25 PM »
Rosemary Willis' head cannot be seen in z150 because she is behind Croft.  When she emerges by z160 her head/hood is turned to the right, which is in the general direction of the President's car.  I can't tell where her eyes are looking so I am surprised that you think you can.

We can tell by the rest of her body which direction she's facing.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z150.jpg
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 06:33:35 PM »

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z150.jpg

(Note that Rosemary Willis has completely turned around to look in the direction of the TSBD.)

Rosemary Willis' head cannot be seen in z150 because she is behind Croft.  When she emerges by z160 her head/hood is turned to the right, which is in the general direction of the President's car.  I can't tell where her eyes are looking so I am surprised that you think you can.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 06:14:51 PM »
Bennett is looking [to his right] in Z-145, but he is not leaning [to his right] any discernible amount.

Bennett is starting to lean to his right in Z-145.

He's leaning out more in Z-150.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z150.jpg

(Note that Rosemary Willis has completely turned around to look in the direction of the TSBD.)

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If either Hickey or Bennett leans out, it is to look forward.

You're wrong about Hickey but right about Bennett.

Having heard the first shot,

1) George Hickey leans over the side of the car and looks down at the pavement, not "forward" at the limo or the approaching triple underpass, etc.

2) Glen Bennett leans to his right to view JFK around Dave Powers. While looking at JFK, he sees the second shot hit him in the back (lower neck, actually).


Regarding Hickey:

ME: Why did Hickey lean over and look down at the pavement before the second shot rang out?

Google AI: George Hickey leaned forward and looked toward the pavement because he believed a firecracker had exploded on the street right next to the car.

In his official Secret Service Report from November 30, 1963, Hickey explicitly detailed his physical reaction to that first loud noise:

"The noise seemed to me to come from a firecracker, and I thought to myself that the kids were playing with firecrackers again... It appeared to come from the right and rear and seemed to me to be at ground level. I heard a report that sounded like a firecracker... I immediately stood up and looked and argued with myself that it was a firecracker."
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A windshield repair person would most likely conclude the windshield damage came from outside...

Bill "Rubbernecking" Greer was likely being put on notice... "don't divulge why you slowed the limo... we can get to you too..."
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 04:37:00 PM »
Who was it, then, who was sitting on the passenger's side of the car and around Z-145 started leaning far to his right while continuing to look straight ahead?

Bennett is looking left in z145 but he is not leaning left any discernible amount. But he is a bit higher than Dave Powers (whose face appears to be blocked by the roof support bar and whose hair is just above it) and Emory Roberts in front of him.  He is not as high as Hickey on the left rear seat. O'Donnell was in the left jump seat.



If Hickey and Bennett were looking at the crowd they would have to be looking directly to the side or rear because the two agents on the running board blocked their view of the crowd in front.  The only way to see in front would be to lean out.  So if either Hickey or Bennett leans out it is to look forward.
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“Before congress”? Or before a Housebsubcommittee chaired by
a MAGA Luna-tic ?


In 2018 Jim DiEugenio admitted to me on Facebook that the family photo I got of Sarah Stanton showed Prayer Man wasn't Oswald...When I responded that the best place to admit that would probably be The Education Forum where it would do the most good and correct wrongly-believed information Jim responded by putting me on Facebook block...He then teamed up with James Gordon in a defamation campaign saying I was only trying to troll him while ignoring my evidence...DiEugenio told Gordon that banning me was the right thing to do...Gordon liked to beat up people who were bound and gagged by banning and couldn't defend themselves...This coalition then sent Jim D to the Luna Task Force and used Oliver Stone as a prop in order to push a theory that Jim already admitted was bogus...Stone would have taken a big hit credibility-wise for this but there is corruption on all sides of this issue helping the guilty out of accountability at their own unchallenged word...Right now the Prayer Man crooks are working out a false history where the failure of finding the original films is going to be used as an excuse for not recognizing the evidence that disproved Prayer Man...These people operate by moderator corruption and not by good research practices...And they refer to James Gordon favorably...When you murder your adversaries with censorship you can present yourself in a false good light by your own description...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 04:18:15 PM »
Connally was mixed up and you're way off.
If he was mixed up, one would expect that he would have said inconsistent things in subsequent statements.  I don't see that he has done that. It is just that in this earliest interview for the WC investigation he provides a bit more detail.

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Rhetorical question:

Why is it we can see almost all of Connally's white shirt in Z-174, but we can't see his tie?
 
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z174.jpg

Answer:

Because Connally, having consciously begun by Z-151 to turn his head quickly to his LEFT (and therefore being captured "looking straight ahead" in the Croft photo at Z-161), by Z-169 has started turning his head and upper torso back to his right to see where the shot had come from and to see if JFK is okay.

Why not use a clearer close-up view:


We can see the right side of his shirt that is interrupted by Kellerman's right shoulder and the mirror but continues below until cut off by the car. We can see that the tie is blocked by the frame of the side window and the right side of his shirt is in the shade.  We can just barely make out the shaded right side of his shirt through the side window. We can see that he is looking to the right front at about a 2 o'clock direction.

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By Z-174, Connally's upper torso is turned so far to his right that his tie is obscured from our view by a part of the car.

Although Connally continues turning to his right, he can't "see" JFK in Z-179 because JFK has turned HIS head far to HIS right and has raised his hand to wave to someone.
That does not describe what JBC said he saw. He sensed that something was wrong with JFK. Had he seen JFK smiling and waving to the crowd, why would he have said what he said?


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Right now they are organizing under the reformation of The Education Forum and presenting the bogus Prayer Man theory before Congress...It is a research clique that has formed under Iler (who is just a front man for DiEugenio) and The Education Forum that doesn't answer to facts and decides who lives and dies in the research community via banning and censorship... Pat Speer directly depend on it silencing those who can point out the flaws in what they write...Speer talks a big talk but then slithers back to censorship to avoid answering...Speer fears me because he gloated about me not being allowed back on the forum...

“Before congress”? Or before a Housebsubcommittee chaired by
a MAGA Luna-tic ?
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