JFK Assassination Forum

The only change in JFK after Z193 is he quit waving at the people to the right. There's lot's of footage of JFK not waving at various points in the motorcade. Why would anyone think that is significant.

Was he shot earlier in the motorcade? Witnesses said he was waving to people on the right when the first shot sounded and he immediately reacted to it.  Where else do you see that occurring?

I'm sure everyone's immediate reaction to the gunshot was to take note of the limo's position on Elm St.  <chuckle>

They likely would not have to make notes to remember seeing the President right in front of them being assassinated.  The image would have been seared into their memories for life.

And there we have it....  this is what Mitch's games are all about.

He can't tell me what is wrong with the evidence I have provided, and he hasn't got answers....

I've played this game before with him and it always plays out the same way.. That's why I said it's a pointless conversation.

The Weidmann method:

1.) Make unsupported assertion.

2.) Demand that the other guy find evidence for said unsupported assertion

3.) Whine that the other guy is "playing games"

4.) When the other guy points out the games you play, whine some more.

 

So a 2nd shooter on the garage roof over the gate and just behind this sign fired one additional shot that was not heard? He must have fired the Z313 shot because he had a better quality rifle with a correctly zeroed scope and his plan was one shot one kill.

But this cannot be right because 3/4ths witness heard 3 shots with the last 2 very close together. And Harold Norman heard 3 shots from above him.

So this 2nd shooter must have been almost as stupid as the 6th floor TSBD patsy shooter since he didn’t use a suppressor and fire a subsonic round. He just figured one shot from his typical loud sounding rifle would  be heard from slightly different direction and then he would quickly escape unseen from the garage roof by … ( this part must be completed by Royell Storing)   

     There were multiple eyewitness accounts of at least 1 shot being fired from the bushes/shrubs that run along the Elm St Extension. Either a shot was fired directly from the other side of those bushes/shrubs, or through the trees directly Above these same bushes/shrubs. That shot would be a Miss/Lost Bullet. Maybe striking the Tague Curb, or near the manhole cover on the (S) side of Elm St.

                                                                      - A Possible Escape Route From Above The Huge Gates -

    There are TSBD 2nd Floor windows that hugged the roof above the Huge Gates. The final TSBD window on the other end of this Roof is right next to the stairwell that Oswald is alleged to have used. A shooter atop the Huge Gates could escape by: (1) Walking along the roof, (2) climbing through that final window, (3) immediately entering the stairwell, (4) exiting the stairwell onto the rear of the TSBD 1st Floor, (5) then walking directly onto the loading dock behind the Huge Gates, (5) exiting the loading dock through the "wide open" Huge Gates, (6) emerging onto the Elm St Extension, and (7) getting into the "getaway" car that is parked only feet away. The "getaway" car having been put in motion down the Elm St Extension upon the sound of shots being fired.

No, but what would matter would be if (1) JFK were gagging on a bullet in his mouth or (2) his reactions were to a shot from the front or otherwise indicative of a non-SBT scenario. Both have been argued. I think it's pretty clear this isn't a Thorburn reaction but is an involuntary neuromuscular reaction.

Why would anyone contemplate either of these silly explanations?

Thousands of things have been argued. The assassination only happened one way. It's not very hard to figure out either. The only mystery is why so many people have such a hard time with it.

No, we have already arrived at the point where a imaginary "CT" (in the mind of a fanatical zealot LN) has explained the evidence for two wallets and just about all LNs couldn't answer the simple questions asked, leaving us with Mitch who is always playing games and never ever presents any logical explanation or even a shred of evidence. In this case he hasn't even made a point beyond that he can't find figure it out.

The Weidmann method:

1.) Make unsupported assertion.

2.) Demand that the other guy find evidence for said unsupported assertion

3.) Whine that the other guy is "playing games"