Over the years, I've posed this question to countless CTs on this and other forums and they seem to want to avoid it the way Dracula avoids sunlight. Perhaps if I ask it in its own thread, I might get a CT to respond.

The question is based on a very simple premise. JFK's right hand was still moving downward at Z225 when he first reappears from behind the sign. We know this because we can see his right hand at Z224. It wasn't until frame Z226 that both of JFK's arms start upward in reaction to the bullet that passed through his throat. At that same frame, JBC's right hand which was holding his Stetson suddenly started moving upward. He made a rapid up and down movement of his right arm which lasted for 9 frames or roughly a half second. That was followed immediately by him doubling over and twisting to his right, which is the reaction he remembered making.

My question is simple. If you don't believe JBC's sudden up and down movement of his right arm is in reaction to it being struck by the same bullet that had just passed through JFK's throat, what do you think could have caused that sudden up an down motion of his right arm.

   There are two main reasons why Ruby did this...

   First was to accent the sheep-dipping of patsy Oswald in order to make him look like a true communist/Castro sympathizer...

   Second was to look Oswald in the eye and remind him to maintain character in his his role playing as a crazed communist...And that one of the plotters could get right next to him to remind him...

which plotter was it? there was more than one?  please post your evidence, as well as a video of the press conference, Albert.  You need to zoom debate this, like Scott Kaiser and Hemming’s kid on Rob Clark’s video show.  It was epic, i recommend it highly.
I wonder who you could find to debate, Albert?  how about me?  you could ask me all the questions you’d like about Crump and Mary Pinchot.

To anyone with a grain of intelligence this is really strong evidence that the first shot is after z207 and before z255.

On what basis do you determine that the evidence of Phil Willis (that his z202 photo was just after the first shot) and of Linda Willis (that JFK was between her and the Stemmons sign when the first shot occurred) is wrong?

(and surely you meant before z225 rather than z255).

The many JFK conspiracists who say JFK was leaving Vietnam, pulling out after re-election (and that's why in part he was killed), ignore the fact again and again and again that the plan JFK supported was conditional, that the McNamara-Taylor report and proposal was a phased withdrawal contingent on the ability of the South to take on the war. That's not an opinion; it's in the documents. Doesn't matter how many times and ways one says this, they ignore it.

So what do they do when confronted by this? They simply make things up. About what NSAM 263 and what NSAM 273 said, about what the McNamara-Taylor report proposed and what JFK repeatedly said about the conflict. There's nothing in 273 that overturns 263. But they make things up and say it does. They never answer one obvious question: Why would JFK tell Hanoi that the US was leaving, unconditionally, in two years? In response, Hanoi could simply wait things out, wait for the US to leave and then resume its attacks. And force the US to return. Because JFK conspiracists are silly doesn't mean JFK was too.

Here is "Mr. X" in Oliver Stone's fantasy movie JFK: "Only four days after JFK was shot, Lyndon Johnson signed National Security Memo 273, which essentially reversed Kennedy's new withdrawal policy and gave the green light to the covert operations against North Vietnam that provoked the Gulf of Tonkin incident. In that document lay the Vietnam War."

Once again, the conspiracy crowd is making things up or living in a fantasy world. Maybe both.

Here is NSAM 263: https://irp.fas.org/offdocs/nsam-jfk/nsam-263.htm

Here is NSAM 273: https://irp.fas.org/offdocs/nsam-lbj/nsam-273.htm

There's nothing in 273 that undoes what 263 says.

As to Karnow: The man simply wasn't a historian writing about events fifty years later. He was IN Vietnam at the time of the Buddhist Crisis and Diem Coup. He knew what was happening, interviewed the people, reported on events, understood the history and culture. He saw firsthand the consequences of the government's crackdown on the Buddhists, how it was causing problems among the intellectuals, the students, and obviously the Buddhists. And that in turn was hurting the war cause, the defense of the South. How could it not? Moreover, it was causing problems for JFK as Congress and the public were souring on supporting the government.

Whether Diem *had* to crack down on the Buddhists to secure his political base, whether the uprising was caused by communist agents, is meaningless. The issue is the problems for the war that it caused. None of that is debatable; they are facts.

It is worth noting that in their various and conflicting SBT trajectory illustrations, lone-gunman theorists have failed to include one or more of these three key facts: (1) the HSCA FPP's placement of the back wound at T1, i.e., below the throat wound, (2) the HSCA FPP's acknowledgment that the autopsy photo of the back wound shows the bullet hit at an upward angle and then tunneled at an upward angle (a fact that Dr. Werner Spitz had already confirmed for the Rockefeller Commission in 1975), and (3) Dr. Baden's demonstration of how far forward JFK would have had to be leaning to make the T1 entry wound and the upward trajectory through the neck line up with a shot from the sixth-floor window.

One myth that is common in pro-SBT trajectory presentations is the WC's fiction that the back wound was above the throat wound and that the bullet traveled downward through JFK's neck. This is the case even in pro-SBT presentations that show JFK sitting upright with his head leaning only slightly forward.

Some examples:

The Single Bullet Theory

While showing JFK sitting straight up with his head held upright, this video shows the bullet hitting above the throat wound and then traveling downward through the neck. The narration even specifies that the bullet "traveled downward, exiting through his throat."

JFK Assassination: Father, Son Probe Single-Bullet Theory

This shows the SBT trajectory depiction used in NOVA's 2013 Cold Case JFK documentary. It has JFK sitting straight up with his head held upright, and yet it has the bullet hitting at the base of the neck, above the throat wound, and even going through the top of the shirt collar to hit above the throat wound, ignoring the fact that the hole in the back of JFK's shirt was over 5 inches below the collar. And, of course, it has the bullet traveling downward through JFK's neck.

The Kennedy Assassination: Beyond Conspiracy

This is Dale Myers' SBT trajectory animation.

It is a particularly curious, confused, and misleading animation. To his credit, Myers has JFK sitting upright with his head tilted only slightly forward, and he actually places the back wound about 5 inches below the coat collar, but things go badly downhill from there.

For starters, when Myers shows the back wound's location, he doesn't show the shirt collar. A number of photos/footage show that part of JFK's shirt collar was visible above the coat collar.

Then, when he shows a frontal view of JFK to illustrate the alleged exit point in the throat, he has the coat collar riding up so high on JFK's back that it's about an inch above JFK's hairline, which markedly contradicts his depiction of the coat collar in his portrayal of the back wound's entry point. With the coat collar so high on the back, it gives the visual impression that the back wound was above the throat wound. Even worse, he leaves the coat collar in this fictional position from that point onward in the video.

When Myers first shows a trajectory line from JFK's throat, he shows the bullet traveling downward toward Connally and apparently on a downward trajectory from the back wound. I say "apparently" because Myers initially provides no trajectory line into JFK's back and no line through the neck. He only shows a trajectory line exiting the throat. 

But, 41 seconds later in the video, when Myers does show a trajectory line from the back wound through the throat wound, he has the bullet entering the back at a point above the throat wound and traveling downward through the neck, even though he still has JFK sitting upright with his head only slightly tilted forward.

Has Myers never read what the HSCA FPP's report says about the trajectory through the neck, i.e., that the bullet entered and tunneled at an upward angle, not a downward angle? Has Myers never seen the HSCA FPP's diagram of their SBT trajectory, which shows Kennedy's head and torso tilted substantially forward? Has Myers never seen Dr. Baden's demonstration of how far forward JFK would have had to be leaning to make the FPP's SBT trajectory align with the sixth-floor window?

In an amazing statement of falsehood, Myers says that JFK and Connally "react at the same time"! Do the media outlets that have aired Myers' animation not have any fact checkers? Not even the WC made this demonstrably false claim.

Also, Myers has the alleged SBT bullet hitting JFK and Connally in Z224, even though Connally himself -- you know, the guy who actually experienced the wounding -- said he was certain he was not hit before Z229.

To read about more of the problems with Myers' SBT trajectory animation, see veteran JFKA researcher Robert Harris's demolition of it:

Dale Myers' Single-Bullet Presentation Destroyed

Dr. John Lattimer's various SBT trajectory illustrations showed the entry point at C3/C4, visibly above the throat wound, and showed the bullet traveling downward through the neck (e.g., "Two of Dr. John Lattimer’s Single-Bullet Theory Trajectory Illustrations"). WC apologists in this very forum have posted Lattimer's fictional SBT trajectory diagrams to defend the SBT. Matt Douthit presents two of Lattimer's SBT diagrams in this excellent video with Pat Speer:

Lattimer Revisited

Speer and Douthit not only debunk Lattimer's SBT claims but also address other issues related to the shooting, such as the bunched-clothing theory and the Thorburn-position myth. They also point out that the T1 location destroys the SBT.

Of course, Lattimer did his diagrams to support CE 385, the WC's diagram of the SBT's supposed trajectory through JFK's neck, which puts the back wound above the throat wound and shows the bullet traveling downward through the neck. The diagram was drawn under Dr. Humes's direction for the WC. The diagram is cited three times in the Warren Report and was published as one of the WC's exhibits (16 H 977). You can view it here:

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0501a.htm

Just another load of crap. If you cannot explain the trajectory through Gov Connally and the medical analysis of his wounds in the context of a separate shot, then this is what it appears to be, just another failed crapped out Michael Griffith theory. Before you make a complete fool of yourself maybe read up on what is in involved in the Lattimer, Posner, Meyers theory. A better suggestion would be to go back to your headwound theory. At least it was always good for a laugh.