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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The future of the Republican Party
« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on Today at 05:12:55 AM »
yeah, well have everyone stay on topic in a thread then.  most devolve into obscurity.

but since I’m here, and have just watched your creature and his bride by his side, bragging about…….. stewardship !!!  Bwaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa !!! you all don’t know what’s coming, do you? The pimple is about to pop………. DUCK !!! (uh…………….. unless you want some of that “TrumpDividend”…Bwaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa ! ! ! )
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 03:51:26 AM »
The WC holds that JFK was struck in the lower rear half of his skull at Z-313. That puts his skull between the bullet that struck him, and the curb near Tague.

Some WC-backers contend the bullet-strike to JFK's skull caused a "jet effect," of matter exploding to the right of JFK's skull.

There are blow-outs on the right-side of JFKs skull in available x-rays, but none on the left.

Hard to see how a lead fragment could have squirted out of FMJ hitting the lower right of JFK's skull, and which caused a blow-out on the right-side of JFK's skull...but then a lead fragment went over left towards Tague.

A handgun fired from the GK would not have used a FMJ, but rather an ordinary lead slug. Only lead was detected on the curb strike near Tague.

Maybe a handgun is the source of the Tague strike.

I have never read a compelling explanation of the Tague curb strike. LNT or CT.

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Yet Another Bullet That the Lone-Gunman Theory Cannot Explain
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Today at 02:44:42 AM »
Quote from: Tim Nickerson on Today at 02:42:46 AM
I don't have the patience at the moment to deal with your stupidity. Read the memo again. Read it very carefully. Try to understand what you read.

I see exactly what it says. Call it stupidity all day long.
 Thumb1: Right back ya. He is referring to the bullet and what he was told about fragments

How can you think a memo with the name OP Wright and the word bullet is referring to fragments as the same?
I'm not aware of him finding - being given  - or having anything to do  - with any fragment JBC or JFK.
He only found a bullet.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Yet Another Bullet That the Lone-Gunman Theory Cannot Explain
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on Today at 02:42:46 AM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Today at 02:20:18 AM
OP Wright carried a bullet around in his pocket for a 1/2 hour.
The FBI refused to take it.

Eddie Barker | News Director, KRLD-TV

Wright: I told him to withhold and not to let anyone remove the bullet, and I would get a hold of either Secret Service,
or the FBI and turn it over to them. Thereby, it wouldn't have come through hands at all.
I contacted the FBI and they said they were not interested because it wasn't their responsibility to make investigations.
So I got a hold of a Secret Service man, and they didn't seem interested in coming to look at the bullet in the position it was in then.

So I went back to the area where Mr. Tomlinson was, and picked up the bullet, and put it in my pocket,
and I carried it some 30 or 40 minutes. And I gave it to a Secret Serviceman that was guarding the main door into the emergency room.

Barker: Mr Wright, when you gave this bullet to the Secret Service agent, did he mark it in anyway?
Wright: No, sir.

Barker: What did he do with it?
Wright: Put it in his left hand coat pocket.

Barker: Well now, did he ask your name, or who you were, or any questions at all about the bullet?
Wright: No, sir.

Barker: How did the conversation go? Do you remember?

Wright: I just told him, this was the bullet that was picked up on a stretcher,
that had come off the emergency elevator, that might be involved with the wounding of the Governor Connally.
And I handed him the bullet, and he took it, and looked at, and said, "O.K." and put it in his pocket.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The memo about a bullet "might be involved with the wounding of the Governor Connally."
The phone call was clarifying what he had told to a secret service agent.

 ::) It is a p--- poor example of the word bullet used to describe fragments
In this case was CE-399

I don't have the patience at the moment to deal with your stupidity. Read the memo again. Read it very carefully. Try to understand what you read.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Yet Another Bullet That the Lone-Gunman Theory Cannot Explain
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Today at 02:20:18 AM »
Quote from: Tim Nickerson on Today at 02:15:06 AM
The memo is about the fragments removed from Connally. I posted it as an example of an FBI agent referring to bullet fragments as a bullet. If you were familiar with the subject, you wouldn't have ended up with your foot in your mouth.

OP Wright carried a bullet around in his pocket for a 1/2 hour.
The FBI refused to take it.

Eddie Barker | News Director, KRLD-TV

Wright: I told him [Tomlinson] to withhold and not to let anyone remove the bullet, and I would get a hold of either Secret Service,
or the FBI and turn it over to them. Thereby, it wouldn't have come through hands at all.
I contacted the FBI and they said they were not interested because it wasn't their responsibility to make investigations.
So I got a hold of a Secret Service man, and they didn't seem interested in coming to look at the bullet in the position it was in then.

So I went back to the area where Mr. Tomlinson was, and picked up the bullet, and put it in my pocket,
and I carried it some 30 or 40 minutes. And I gave it to a Secret Serviceman that was guarding the main door into the emergency room.

Barker: Mr Wright, when you gave this bullet to the Secret Service agent, did he mark it in anyway?
Wright: No, sir.

Barker: What did he do with it?
Wright: Put it in his left hand coat pocket.

Barker: Well now, did he ask your name, or who you were, or any questions at all about the bullet?
Wright: No, sir.

Barker: How did the conversation go? Do you remember?

Wright: I just told him, this was the bullet that was picked up on a stretcher,
that had come off the emergency elevator, that might be involved with the wounding of the Governor Connally.
And I handed him the bullet, and he took it, and looked at, and said, "O.K." and put it in his pocket.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The memo about a bullet "might be involved with the wounding of the Governor Connally."
The phone call was clarifying what he had told to a secret service agent.

 ::) It is a p--- poor example of the word bullet used to describe fragments
In this case was CE-399
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Yet Another Bullet That the Lone-Gunman Theory Cannot Explain
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on Today at 02:15:06 AM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Today at 01:37:16 AM
BS: That memo is clearly bullet and fragments.
A bullet mentioned several times

The memo is about the fragments removed from Connally. I posted it as an example of an FBI agent referring to bullet fragments as a bullet. If you were familiar with the subject, you wouldn't have ended up with your foot in your mouth.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The future of the Republican Party
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 01:48:34 AM »
Yes, there are a number of tiresome threads on the Education Forum which, under the pretext of linking the JFKA to all history that followed thereafter, become platforms for the usual red-blue, D vs R, left v. right pissing wars. Mostly manned by leftist ideologues.

One can read that stuff, both sides, in profusion all over the internet.


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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Anna Luna's JFK Conspiracy Circus
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 01:47:11 AM »
Quote from: Matt Brooks on Yesterday at 09:27:15 PM
they own the films and will only give them to, say, documentary directors or people in the industry wanting to license the film.

   The Sixth Floor does NOT OWN the Original Darnell Film or the Original Wiegman Film.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Craziest Assembly of CTers in Dealey Plaza of all Time
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 01:44:41 AM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Today at 12:48:56 AM
I officiated high school and college football for over 25 years. I think I know what the official clock is and it's the clock on the primary scoreboard. You obviously misunderstood what the explanation was by the Big 10. The issue is with how the replay cameras are synced to the stadium clock. All the video cameras are supposed to be synced to the stadium clock before the game. There is a technical problem that causes the main TV camera that superimposes the first down line on the screen to fall about quarter second behind the other cameras. That's why the main camera showed the clock hit 0:00 before the pass was touched out of bounds while the end zone camera showed there was still 0:01 second on the stadium clock when the ball was touched. While the end zone camera was probably the more accurate one, the replay protocol dictates that the main broadcast camera is the one that should be used when determining timing issues such as this. The reason for that is obvious. The main camera is the one everybody looks at. Had they followed the protocol, they would have made the ruling based on what the main camera showed. Nobody would have ever known what the camera in the replay booth showed and there would be no controversy. The ruling on the field that the game clock had run out during the first Hail Mary would have stood and Western Michigan would have the victory.

The NFL has a protocol that says even if replay shows the play ended with one second still on the clock, they do not put time back on the clock. If it's that close, the call on the field stands and the game is declared over. If there isn't at least a two second error, the play stands as called on the field.

   Funny that you would mention the "1st down line on the screen". That "line" is also Not, "Dead on balls accurate". Just like the game clock.
   And do Not get me started on the actual "spotting" of the football. That is "putzed" up very often. Sometimes on purpose. This was made obvious with this repeatedly being done in favor of the KC Chiefs during the NFL Playoffs.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Yet Another Bullet That the Lone-Gunman Theory Cannot Explain
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Today at 01:37:16 AM »
Quote from: Tim Nickerson on Yesterday at 09:22:52 PM


A bullet wasn't taken from the body of Connally. A nurse did not have possession of a bullet removed from Connally. Wright gave the bullet that he received from Tomlinson to Richard Johnsen. The memorandum was unmistakably about the fragments removed from Connally. Nolan received bullet fragments, not a bullet. Loeffler was not assuming that Nolan had a bullet as well as the fragments. Loeffler was not assuming anything in that memorandum. Stop being so ridiculous. The memorandum is a clear example of an FBI agent referring to bullet fragments as a bullet.

 BS: That memo is clearly bullet and fragments.
A bullet mentioned several times
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