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I didn't notice the overall ranking when I guessed that not 1 in 10 could get all 15 answers correct. Looks like I made a pretty good guess.

I'm going to retake the quiz and deliberately miss 10 questions to test my hypothesis that not 1 in 5 people would even get 5 questions correct.

I would be willing to bet that NOTHING LIKE 8% or 10% of the populace could get 15 right. My guess would be that either (1) the quiz was of interest only to the miniscule percentage who actually care anything about the JFKA and/or (2) a substantial percentage started off so badly they said the hell with it and didn't finish. I would bet my house, car and Callaway driver that 10% couldn't tell you the YEAR of the JFKA.
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Among people who have taken that particular JFK Assassination trivia quiz (as of June 29, 2026), only 8% of the participants have been able to achieve a perfect score.

I didn't notice the overall ranking when I guessed that not 1 in 10 could get all 15 answers correct. Looks like I made a pretty good guess.

I'm going to retake the quiz and deliberately miss 10 questions to test my hypothesis that not 1 in 5 people would even get 5 questions correct.
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The question itself is absurd. Watch any news program where they quiz people, including college students, about historical events. Nixon was President in World War II, etc., etc. Not 0.00001% of people who weren't alive at the time know or care anything about JFK or the JFKA. This is a fantasy of the 0.000001% who are obsessed with it. The polls showing large percentages "think there was a conspiracy" mean nothing more than large percentages once saw a TV program pushing the conspiracy angle. The last straw for me was a golf telecast where they good-naturedly quizzed pro golfers about The Beatles. These included some 40-year-olds and NOT ONE could name the four Beatles - simply John, Paul, George and Ringo.
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If the questions and comments I see on the JFK Assassination Discussion Group on Facebook are any indication, most people are not very well informed about the JFK assassination. I got into a heated discussion with a cousin’s wife a few weeks ago. It wasn’t about the JFK assassination. But I happened to make a comparison that involved what a lot of people believe about the JFK assassination. She looked at me incredulously and said: “how do you KNOW this”? I simply said that I had done a lot of research over many years. There was no response from her after I said that. So, I think the real issue is that most people have only seen a limited amount of conspiracy related books/movies/discussions. They haven’t done any significant research of the actual investigation or evidence.
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So you prefer your 1st shot  at Z190 , then 4 secs later a shot at Z270, then 2.5 secs later Z313, where in only 2.5 secs the shooter hits Z313 the smallest target still moving (at 8mph)?   Is it even possible  ? since no CBS trial shooter ever managed to hit the head after only 2.5 secs from hitting the moving full upper body silhouette. No one else as far as I remember had ever accomplished that quick of an ejection of shell and chamber next round and was able to aim and fire and hit at a moving small 8” diameter target even if stationary let alone moving ar 8mph.

Andrew has painted himself in to a corner by fully committing to z312/313 as being the final shot of the three, clearly audible shots reported by over 160 witnesses.
JFK's reaction to being shot through the throat (and Brachial Plexus) is for his hands to fly upwards, towards his chin, at an incredible speed. It is clearly a neuromuscular/reflex reaction.
This indicates he was shot milliseconds before this movement.
The first reliable visible signs of this movement are seen in z225, so the shot passed through JFK only 2 or 3 Z-frames before this (z222/223).
The problem for Andrew is that there is a shade less than 5 seconds between z222/223 and z312/313.
He believes there was a significant gap between the first and second shots (and that the second and third shots were close together) - shot, pause, shot, shot.
This is impossible if you accept that the head shot was the last shot. There would be no time for a pause between the first two shots.

How does he overcome this problem?
By using the worst methodology possible.
He fixes the last shot at z312/313 then uses the time it takes to get off a shot with the MC (around 2.5 seconds ish) and calculates his way backwards from z312/313.
He then has his Z-frames (first shot z190, second shot z272, third shot z312/313)
After he has got his Z-frames he then, and only then, looks for evidence to support his calculations!!

He doesn't use the evidence to reach a conclusion.
He already has his conclusion and then cherry-picks evidence to support this conclusion.

It is a doomed method that led to a doomed theory.
However, this has not stopped him from constantly promoting this dead theory. It is his creation, after all.



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Plausible - if it was not for the mountain of evidence that the head shot was the last shot: All occupants of the limo and Secret service car, Altgens, Gayle and Bill Newman, Zapruder.

2.3 seconds after z313 is z345. Clint Hill had reached the car by z345.  One might wonder why anyone would try to shoot with JFK in this position:



Besides, it also makes no sense that the shooter would take another shot after seeing the results of the head shot.

The "mountain of evidence" you refer to is only in your mind.
There is contradictory evidence regarding when the last shot was.
The arguments you and I have had over this issue are recorded in this thread and don't need to be repeated.
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As JFK emerges from behind the Stemmons sign his left arm is down by his side, as it was before he passed behind the sign.
Less than half a second later it has flown up from this resting position into the extreme hyper-extension of the elbows, curled wrists and stiffly pointing index finger. Somewhere in "The First Shot" thread Brian Roselle had an excellent post about how JFK's hand/wrist position resemble rapid onset spasticity. The rapidity, extremeness and distorted nature of his arm movements indicate massive nerve damage. This kind of response occurs milliseconds after the initial 'stimulus'. It is the reaction to a shot passing through him at z222/223. The first signs of reaction are visible around z225.
There are no indications whatsoever that JFK was reacting to anything before this point. Suggestions to the contrary have been recently debunked ("When Was JFK HIT", REPLY#14)
Also posted on the same thread was the following:

Cavitation is an effect where a bullet passing through soft tissue, as demonstrated in the video below:


It isn't just the bullet that causes damage when it passes through a body. Cavitation can have an equally devastating effect on the tissue and, in particular nerves. When the bullet passes through JFK's neck, there is the damage caused by the bullet and damage caused by cavitation. The bullet passes through an area called the Brachial Plexus, an area dense in nerves coming out of the spinal column. In the diagram below the red dot represents the approximate position the bullet enters his upper back/lower neck:




Comments from Dr. Robert Artwohl explaining why we saw the arms stiffening upward.
“JFK’s reaction to the neck wound was, for all intents and purposes, instantaneous to the hit at Z-223/224. As the bullet passed through his neck, the pressure cavity caused an immediate and wide spread stimulation of all the nerves in the immediate vicinity, that is of the brachial plexus, the large group of nerves that emerge from C5-T1. These are the nerves that supply motor function to the arms.”

"Comments from neurologist Dr. Strully in a letter sent by Dr. Strully to Dr. Robert Artwohl, dated April 9, 1994 as to an even greater possible extent of the muscle contractions:

 "Before all else, it is necessary to remember that this assassination reveals a sequence of neural responses initiated in the neck by the shock wave and cavitation induced by the bullet in its traverse of the neck.  This traumatized all structures in a 6 inch radius in all directions from the path of passage through the neck.  This spread of forces occurred in a fraction of a second, traumatizing all neural structures in the immediate vicinity within a fraction of a second as determined by the speed of the missile according to ballistic studies.
As a result, contraction of the muscles innervated by nerves closest to the bullet's path took place first; -- right deltoid, left deltoid, right biceps followed by the left biceps and sequential contraction of all muscles in the forearms, hands, chest, abdominal walls and paraspinal muscle groups, with muscles in the lower extremities, farthest from the shock wave, responding last.  All neural structures in the neck were stimulated at the same moment…” [posted by Brian Roselle]

The effect of cavitation causes an "instantaneous" contraction of all the arm muscles. This is clearly seen in the Z-film as JFK's elbows fly up to their highest point and the top half of his body appears to momentarily stiffen. It is a radical, extreme and instantaneous reflex reaction caused by the wholesale damage of nerves in the Brachial Plexus.
How quickly is "instantaneous" for a reflex reaction:


"While human reaction times tend to require hundreds of milliseconds, "One of the fastest [neural feedback] loops is from arm sensors to spinal cord and back out to arm muscles: it takes 110 milliseconds for feedback corrections to be made to an arm movement." (William H. Calvin, "The unitary hypothesis: A common neural circuitry for novel manipulations, language, plan-ahead, and throwing?" in Tools, Language, and Cognition in Human Evolution, edited by Kathleen R. Gibson and Tim Ingold. Cambridge University Press, pp. 230-250, [1993].)

So there could already be a reaction of a subject's arms in as early as 110 milliseconds, the equivalent of two Zapruder frames. But, of course, with JFK and Gov. Connally shot between 223 and 224, we should not be able to discern a significant reaction before frame 226. While only a few milliseconds later, this would still be too late.

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So where did the back shot come from smart ass?
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Among people who have taken that particular JFK Assassination trivia quiz (as of June 29, 2026), only 8% of the participants have been able to achieve a perfect score.

Here are my results after I took the quiz....

https://triviavault.co.in/results/jfk-assassination-quiz


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Andrew, I have to disagree with you regarding Gov. Connally's being wounded after frame 255.

 In the Zapruder film, at frame 235, Connally is screaming "Oh no, no, no". after being struck.  His mouth is in speaking motion from that time on in the film until we lose sight of him following the fatal shot.  He stated in his WC testimony:
 
 " I immediately, when I was hit, I said, "Oh, no, no, no." And then I said, "My God, they are going to kill us all." Nellie, when she pulled me over into her lap ".

 The bullet has already passed through his back, chest, wrist and into his leg.
Hello Steve. I agree that he is saying "oh, no, no" around there.  We can see his mouth open at z244 but it may have been open a bit sooner. 

You have correctly stated his WC testimony.  But JBC told Life Magazine something different (Life, 25Nov66, p. 48):



And in 1978 he started to tell the HSCA that he said "oh, no, no" before he was hit and then changed his mind and said he guessed it was after.  But, perhaps most significant, he recalled saying it because he thought the President was being assassinated, not because he was hit by it (1 HSCA 43):



So, while one has to respect the Governor's testimony on that point, my question is: which of the three statements is accurate?  Nellie has always maintained that he said it before the second shot.  She also said that she looked back at JFK before the second shot and did not look back afterward.  She is looking back at him up to about z268.  Altgens said that his z255 photo was taken after the first and before any other shot. Hickey said he was looking at the President when the last two shots sounded. He is turned to the rear in Altgens and has yet to turn forward.  Gayle Newman said that JBC was turned to his right side when the second shot sounded and he just lay back (see her WFAA interview within half an hour of the events). She said the car was passing right in front of them when the second shot sounded.  According to Dr. Shires, Nellie told him that JBC was turned to his right when hit by the second shot.  Greer said he turned around "almost simultaneously" with the second shot and saw JBC in the process of laying back onto Nellie. We can see the final part of that first turn just before z283.

The other aspect that makes me think JBC's WC testimony is incorrect and Nellie's is correct is the lack of any other attempt to even turn his head to face the rear before the turn that begins about z230.  I know that both JBC and Nellie placed the second shot around z234 and that is worthy of consideration. But it is only an opinion of what they think he would have looked like, not what they saw, and it does not fit with the rest of Nellie's testimony.

The problem with JBC being hit earlier than z270 is not the zfilm.  It is the rest of the evidence.  The zfilm by itself is, at best, equivocal in placing the time of the second shot.
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