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By the 1960s, ordinary commercial firecracker explosives and gunpowder were two different formulations, and did not smell the same.

That many vets and police officers smelled gunsmoke in the GK area, in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA, has never been explained.

Since there was only one guy firing a gun in Dealey Plaza, that kind of limits the possibilities.
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We know from women's coats and skirts that the wind was blowing towards the TSBD from the Third St. Overpass at the time of the JFKA---in other words, LHO and the TSBD6 sniper nest were downwind from the limo.

Wind swirls in urban canyons. Gunpowder residue gets discharged away from the source.
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This, beyond dispute, rules out the TSBD6 location as the source of that gunsmoke.

Not for thinking people.
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Many ear-witnesses thought the shots had come from the GK, and smoke in the GK was seen by Sam Holland, a credible witness.

What makes Sam Holland credible?
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This is the same area where someone flashed an ersatz Secret Service badge at DPD Officer Joe Smith, also in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA.

Myth.
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Putting on a detective hat, one plausible explanation is that someone fired a handgun, possibly an easily concealed  snub-nose .38 (the default concealed weapon of the time), as the presidential limo passed.

You reached for the detective hat, and grabbed the dunce cap by mistake.
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And indeed, the second official investigation in the JFKA, the HSCA-1979, concluded there had been a gunshot at the GK during the JFKA.


The second official investigation was FUBAR.
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Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions. Your conjecture will be as good as anyone else's.

Mine is better than most.
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Nay-saying one liners do not equal the case-cracking genius of John Armstrong whose findings should be self-evident for any well-read JFK researcher...

Lone Nutters are people who take advantage of the government's mishandling and covering-up of the evidence...


They gain something they haven't earned when they are given equal say in evidence discussions...
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    Just the opposite...

    They are so desperate to avoid admitting the truth that they go to those extremes of corruption and dishonesty...

    The Education Forum represents a false image of the research community and JFK research because of it...


Research community? Is that what you call this never-ending snipe hunt?
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Hardly collapsing...
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      There are several issues from credible sources that you have Not taken into consideration: (1) The Thompson interview of Sitzman and her claiming that after getting down from the pedestal, she then went Down to the BOTTOM of the Knoll. (2) Wiegman detailing in "Pictures Of The Pain" that he saw SA Lem Johns UP on the knoll. Just how firm is the Wiegman ID on the Bell Film? The figure falling/running across the top of the knoll is cavalierly accepted as being Wiegman due to his wearing a Hat. Is it possible that SA Lem Johns was wearing a Hat UP on the Knoll? That I am aware of, Wiegman NEVER ID'd himself as being this figure on the Bell Film. Nor did anyone else.

Sitzman and Johns are completely irrelevant regarding the issue being dealt with.
How firm is the Weigman ID in Bell?
It's 100& Weigman.
You already accepted this ID but are now backtracking for some reason.
YOU must do your own analysis of the Weigman footage to determine his position when he filmed the Hesters.
You will see hie is approaching the concrete platform, just before he starts filming the Hesters his camera points downwards to reveal he is lying on this platform, thge footage is taken from floor level and use the pillars in the background to determine his reletive angle to them (I've already done this in an earlier post).
When you've done this analysis you will be 100% convinced it is Weigman in Bell.
When you are convinced of that consider the following from my previous post:

1] You accept Altgens 8 shows the Hesters both lying on the grass while Zapruder and Sitzman are by the pedestal.
2] The Bell footage showing only Mrs Hester on the grass and her husband hiding out in the pergola while Zapruder and Sitzman are still moving about by the pedsestal.

The Weigman footage shows the moment Charles Hester gets up and moves to the pergola, heroically abandoning his wife.
The Weigman footage captures the moment that connects point #1 to point #2.
Are you suggesting Zapruder and Sitzman disappear between after point 1 (Altgens8) and reappear at point 2 (Bell)?
Or is it more plausible that, as Weigman runs towards the Hesters, Zapruder and Sitzman are still on top of the pedestal but the footage is too poor to pick them out?
We know Zapruder and Sitzman were still on top of the pedestal while Weigman was running towards the Hesters from the synchronisations provided by the JFK Theorist and me in this thread.
So - can you accept that the Weigman footage is too poor quality to show Zapruder and Sitzman still on the pedestal as Weigman runs towards the Hesters?

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The smell of gunpowder
« Last post by Ted Sager on Today at 07:34:46 AM »
Reports of following cars smelling Gun powder at the corner of Elm, too. Where would that have come from except storm drain at corner.
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Cause others believe the evidence. Such as upward angle of Ks back shot, slug making dent by mirror. JC being shot while turned facing the SBD. Ks head shot transversing his head from left rear to right front. None of that would have been cause from window shots.  That's why others don't believe in a window shooter.
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The focus of this one-page article is Dr. Michael Baden's demonstration in the 1988 NOVA documentary Who Shot President Kennedy? of how far forward JFK would have had to be leaning to make the HSCA FPP's trajectory through the neck align with the sixth-floor window.

"Dr. Baden Refuted the Single-Bullet Theory"

Dr. Wecht mocked the FPP majority's assumption about JFK's forward lean with the joking remark that they were assuming that JFK was bent over tying his shoe laces when the bullet struck. This humorous exaggeration perfectly captures the demonstrably false nature of the FPP's assumption, which Dr. Baden was nice enough to demonstrate in front of TV cameras.

Of course, Baden had no idea he was driving a huge nail in the SBT's coffin with his demonstration.

Keep in mind that Dr. Humes's wound diagram for the WC (i.e., CE 385) puts the wound at C3 or C4. Humes put the wound noticeably above the throat wound, as we see in CE 385. Humes had to put the back wound above the throat wound because he and the WC claimed the bullet traveled a "downward path" through the neck, a piece of pure fiction that even the HSCA FPP rejected and debunked.

True to form, SBT believers shrug off this enormous conflict between the autopsy doctors and the HSCA FPP experts. No matter what, for them the SBT still works, never mind that Humes put the wound at least 2.5 inches higher in CE 385 than where the FPP located it. One WC apologist here, apparently clueless about basic geometry, has even claimed that it makes no difference whatsoever if Humes was wrong and the FPP was right about the wound's location! By golly, the SBT still works! Amazing!

Finally, surely no objective person can look at the autopsy photo of the back wound and conclude that it shows the wound where Humes placed it in CE 385. The HSCA FPP concluded the photo puts the wound at T1, which is at least 2.5 inches lower than where CE 385 places it. Indeed, the FPP said they placed the wound "in the back area" and "a few inches lower" than where Humes placed it in his drawing:

The panel also places the entrance perforation on the lower, in the back area, a few inches lower than illustrated in this drawing. (1 HSCA 256)

Baden was one of several members of the HSCA's FPP who believed that "when the body is repositioned in the anatomic position (not the position at the moment of shooting) the direction of the missile in the body on initial penetration was slightly upward". They were wrong. The majority of that 9 member panel disagreed with them. You have falsely claimed that "several members" equals a majority.

The FPP determined that the entry wound was superior to the ribs. T1 being the uppermost vertebra of the ribs.

Humes was not responsible for the drawings. His placement of the wound on the drawings was too high. However, his testimony that the wound was in the low neck was probably correct.

The Clark Panel measured the entry wound to be about 5.5 cm below a transverse fold in the skin on the back of the neck. The HSCA FPP measured it to be about 6 cm below the skin fold. The Clark Panel measured the wound in the throat to be about 9 cm below the skin fold. The entry wound was above the wound in the throat. It's obvious when viewing the posterior view and the left lateral view of the body that the entry wound was above the wound in the throat. CTs who refuse to admit it will not place a mark on the left lateral view at the level of where the entry wound was because they are incapable of admitting that they are wrong.

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The Jews were not only behind the JFKA...but the Watergate Episode.

Fresh from the Education Forum:

Posted 7 hours ago
  On 9/7/2026 at 7:11 AM, Anthony Thorne said:

Aaron, what material is in the longer edition and which books if any did you find useful in researching the Watergate topic?

There's an extra hour. Jim Hougan's book is the best. An unpublished essay from Peter (which I edited and contributed slightly to) is also useful. But mostly these are different threads that I came across after being in email conversations with Peter and Jim and Max Arvo which included creating a timeline of key Watergate events that went beyond the Watergate timeline to also incorporate the US v. Lanksy saga and related events events in that universe involving Zionist figures in Vegas.

I surmise that Angleton is the key US intelligence figure behind Watergate and that he was acting against both Nixon and the official CIA with possible sanction from militarist sectors of the national security state (JCS/"Doomsday Network") and with considerable input from his mob/Zionist ties.

It was the proto-neocon coalition that was behind Dallas--the hard-right militarists, mobbed-up Zioinists, Angleton's CIA w/in the CIA (which included the "Israeli account"). These forces essentially completed their takeover of the US foreign policy apex with the defeat of GHW Bush (who I conclude was an amoral champion of US imperial capitalism, but not insane). The Clean Break report and the PNAC report laid out the new grand strategy: dollarized unipolar full-spectrum US imperial dominance with the "Greater Israel" project dominating the global energy heartlands of West Asia.

In large part through deep political warfare, the Zionist neocons succeeded in tying the US hegemonic project to the Greater Israel project. Now the two projects seem to be collapsing in tandem. The strategy was insane b/c the US ultra-militarists are lunatics, and the ideologically nazified Zionists are even crazier.

It appears that Nemesis has entered the scene.
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JFK also showed his willingness to use naval blockades, as seen during the CMC.

Very possibly, JFK would have put a naval blockade on NV, or destroyed Haiphong.

Given JFK's long association with SV, and that JFK loathed, detested and reviled communist oppression, I doubt JFK would have simply walked away from SV.

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