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Your posts may be the creepiest thing ever Socrates.  Get a life.
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1. 584 words is a "book" in your world? Alas, I suspect it is.
2. "Ghosts" is in the title of the forum Duncan started. If it's a "silly topic," perhaps take that up with Duncan.
3. You responded with two dismissive posts, the substance of which was addressed in my first post - which you clearly didn't read.
4. Across the board, you appear to have the intellectual curiosity of a fence post. You know it all without really knowing anything.

Smartest guy in the room syndrome is a terrible thing to behold.  You post abnormally long rants for an Internet forum on topics like UFO abductions, ghosts etc.  If no one responds to these silly topics, you post insults.  If anyone responds, you post insults.  Bizarre.  You must be a real charmer around the old water cooler.   Posting lengthy diatribes about nonsensical topics doesn't make you a genius.  It makes you a lonely, pathetic dipshit. 
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  Can YOU explain the splitting of the Atom and Nuclear Fission? Or do you believe that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were simply a hoax? Try to be consistent.

I guess I'm just supposed to blindly accept the Knott Lab conclusion without them explaining how they arrived at their conclusion.
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The JFK Assassination - Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 12:21:32 AM »
Landis, Ready and Hickey all report that their reaction to the first shot was to look to the right and rear:


Landis - "I heard what sounded like the report of a high-powered rifle from behind me, over my right shoulder...", "My first glance was at the President, as I was practically         
             looking in his direction anyway...", "I immediately returned my gaze, over my right shoulder."

Ready - "I heard what appeared to be fire crackers going off from my position. I immediately turned to my right rear trying to locate the source but was not able to               
             determine the exact location."

Hickey - "I heard what seemed to me that a firecracker exploded to the right and rear. I stood partially up and turned to the rear to see if I could observe anything. "

They reacted to the first shot by looking in the direction the shot came from - the right and rear of their position. This is exactly what we see in Altgens 6:



In the Z-film we see these agents until z207.
At no point do we see any of these agents turning to their right and rear.
At no point do we see any of these agents reacting as they said they did. That is a fact. Any suggestions otherwise are simply not true. Ready may have changed his hand position but at no point does he make any attempt to look to his right and rear. There is not the slightest suggestion he does so. Just as there is no suggestion Landis or Hickey make such a turn.

The earliest record of these agents reacting as they said they did, is Altgens 6 (z255)
To imagine they waited for 7 seconds before turning to their right and rear is genuinely laughable.
Even to imagine they waited a full second is highly unlikely.

The way to make sense of this is to realize some of the agents either didn't hear or didn't recognize the first shot as a gun shot. I continue to believe that four motorcycles would create enough of a roar to partially muffle the sound of the first muzzle blast. JBC who wasn't as close to the motorcycles did recognize the first blast as the sound of a high powered rifle and we see him react to that first sound. The agents we see turning to the rear in Altgens 6 are reacting to the second shot, not the first.
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The JFK Assassination - Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 11:48:47 PM »
Landis, Ready and Hickey all report that their reaction to the first shot was to look to the right and rear:


Landis - "I heard what sounded like the report of a high-powered rifle from behind me, over my right shoulder...", "My first glance was at the President, as I was practically         
             looking in his direction anyway...", "I immediately returned my gaze, over my right shoulder."

Ready - "I heard what appeared to be fire crackers going off from my position. I immediately turned to my right rear trying to locate the source but was not able to               
             determine the exact location."

Hickey - "I heard what seemed to me that a firecracker exploded to the right and rear. I stood partially up and turned to the rear to see if I could observe anything. "

They reacted to the first shot by looking in the direction the shot came from - the right and rear of their position. This is exactly what we see in Altgens 6:



In the Z-film we see these agents until z207.
At no point do we see any of these agents turning to their right and rear.
At no point do we see any of these agents reacting as they said they did. That is a fact. Any suggestions otherwise are simply not true. Ready may have changed his hand position but at no point does he make any attempt to look to his right and rear. There is not the slightest suggestion he does so. Just as there is no suggestion Landis or Hickey make such a turn.

The earliest record of these agents reacting as they said they did, is Altgens 6 (z255)
To imagine they waited for 7 seconds before turning to their right and rear is genuinely laughable.
Even to imagine they waited a full second is highly unlikely.
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I'd be willing consider the Knott Lab conclusion the SBT is impossible if they would tell us why it is impossible but the CTs who cite their work always leave that part out.

  Can YOU explain the splitting of the Atom and Nuclear Fission? Or do you believe that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were simply a hoax? Try to be consistent.
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The back shot at an upward angle went on to make the dent by the mirror. Perfect straight line from dent through K's body toward the ground. Where else could it have come from? Dallas later removed the drain as well as removing the location of the head shooter. Someone in Dallas knew where the shooters were to be, making removal of evidence necessary.

I suppose you could have nuttier beliefs but it is hard to imagine how.
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You're bucking against reality because the man fast-walking up the extension is provably Lovelady because of the unmistakable plaid pattern seen on his shirt...
The only other alternative then becomes Molina...Not only can you see the shape of Molina's head on this man, in the best resolution copies, but you can also see Molina's distinct bald pattern that is different than Lovelady's...This man who is facing Calvery is in the exact position Molina said he was in when he said he walked across the top platform from the east side to the west and then went down the front steps...

Molina did interact with Calvery and the other woman in the Lobby when he returned...The fact he interacted with them in the Lobby when he returned does not preclude him from being the man facing Calvery in Darnell...

1] You're clearly unaware what the topic of this thread is. Read the OP at least.
2] The man in the image I posted is also wearing a plaid shirt and, most definitely, not the white shirt Molina was wearing.
3] During his WC testimony Molina is specifically asked if a girl had come up while he was on the steps and mentioned the President being shot, to which he said "no". This alone proves it wasn't Molina. When asked about Gloria he mentioned nothing about being on the steps. He specifically states he was in the lobby when he interacted with her. Molina's WC testimony does preclude him from being the man on the steps. As does the lack of white shirt:

Mr. BALL. Had somebody come up and said the President was shot before you saw Truly go in?
Mr. MOLINA. No.
Mr. BALL. Do you know a girl named Gloria Calvary?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did Gloria come up?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes, she came. I was in the lobby standing there and she came in with this other girl.


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Frazier said Lovelady & Shelley spoke to Calvery at the base of the steps before they took off up the extension...The Couch/Darnell clip shows the period after this exchange while Lovelady & Shelley have already taken off up the extension...Calvery telling Lovelady & Shelley that Kennedy had been shot at the Knoll is what caused the pair to want to run up there and check it out...



When did Frazier say this?
During his WC testimony he seems to be just guessing what Shelley and Lovelady did. He doesn't seem to really know.

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The reason I assumed it was Reed is because she told me that all she remembered was panicking and running back to the Depository...Reed told me she remembers being in such a panicked state that she had to hurdle over motorcade spectators who had laid down on the ground trying to avoid bullets...Logic makes me assume the woman in all white next to Calvery is Reed simply because of that panic getting her there ahead of Hicks, who is probably the woman in the white blouse and black skirt who followed-up Calvery and Reed from their position in the spectators...

Because of a certain martinet moderator on The EF, because this exclusive interview with Reed came from me, it was met with wicked disinterest...The idea is that anything that comes from me, no matter how significant and unprecedented, is to be wickedly ignored with intent and denied...A purposeful destruction of the source no matter how important the content...A violation of commonly understood research standards as a preferred organized method...Anti-intellectualism in its most satanically directed form...Banning on that forum is a call to the mob for personal destruction of that researcher and his research...Savages pretending to be gentlemen...

Reed or Hicks. It doesn't really matter but if you feel from your interview of Reed that it might have been her that's good enough for me.
I'm still pretty sure you said something else but it's not a hill I'm willing to die on.
For what it's worth, you had left this forum not long after I was getting involved. I thought the Prayer Man cult was pure nonsense and it seemed to me the only real candidate was Sarah Stanton. When I expressed this I was surprised by how vehement the opposition was to this notion. There were a lot of insults but the main one was the 'new Brian Doyle'. I get the impression I was supposed to be really offended by this.

LATER EDIT: How do you reconcile the WC testimonies of Shelley and Lovelady with the identification of the men on the extension. This is what really disproves the identification so I would like to hear how you navigate it.
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The back shot at an upward angle went on to make the dent by the mirror. Perfect straight line from dent through K's body toward the ground. Where else could it have come from? Dallas later removed the drain as well as removing the location of the head shooter. Someone in Dallas knew where the shooters were to be, making removal of evidence necessary.
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Gary Mack knew about the film and said it was a 1st generation copy...

If we went by your standard of evidence nothing could ever be proven to be valid and we could just quit because no evidence would ever be good enough...

The layers of supporting evidence tells you there was no manipulation of Sarah Stanton's features, nor would there be any reason to alter Stanton's clothing...The neckline is clearer because it is a film to film copy...

Again - the fact that other objects in the 6th Floor Museum copy improve in clarity means that the neckline is valid because CIA is not going to sharpen other objects in that copy because there would be no reason to...

One of the biggest things the Prayer Man people exploit is the fact the actual people involved are dead and can't refute their ridiculous gratuitous doubt...

   OK, so let's go at this another way. How did Prof G. Wiliam Jones "manage" to make a, "1st generation film-to-film copy of Darnell"? And the say-so of Gary Mack carries absolutely no weight. He was Wrong on: (1) Badge Man, (2) The McKinnon/Mumford ID, and (3) The Acoustic Evidence.
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