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The focus of this one-page article is Dr. Michael Baden's demonstration in the 1988 NOVA documentary Who Shot President Kennedy? of how far forward JFK would have had to be leaning to make the HSCA FPP's trajectory through the neck align with the sixth-floor window.

"Dr. Baden Refuted the Single-Bullet Theory"

Dr. Wecht mocked the FPP majority's assumption about JFK's forward lean with the joking remark that they were assuming that JFK was bent over tying his shoe laces when the bullet struck. This humorous exaggeration perfectly captures the demonstrably false nature of the FPP's assumption, which Dr. Baden was nice enough to demonstrate in front of TV cameras.

Of course, Baden had no idea he was driving a huge nail in the SBT's coffin with his demonstration.

Keep in mind that Dr. Humes's wound diagram for the WC (i.e., CE 385) puts the wound at C3 or C4. Humes put the wound noticeably above the throat wound, as we see in CE 385. Humes had to put the back wound above the throat wound because he and the WC claimed the bullet traveled a "downward path" through the neck, a piece of pure fiction that even the HSCA FPP rejected and debunked.

True to form, SBT believers shrug off this enormous conflict between the autopsy doctors and the HSCA FPP experts. No matter what, for them the SBT still works, never mind that Humes put the wound at least 2.5 inches higher in CE 385 than where the FPP located it. One WC apologist here, apparently clueless about basic geometry, has even claimed that it makes no difference whatsoever if Humes was wrong and the FPP was right about the wound's location! By golly, the SBT still works! Amazing!

Finally, surely no objective person can look at the autopsy photo of the back wound and conclude that it shows the wound where Humes placed it in CE 385. The HSCA FPP concluded the photo puts the wound at T1, which is at least 2.5 inches lower than where CE 385 places it. Indeed, the FPP said they placed the wound "in the back area" and "a few inches lower" than where Humes placed it in his drawing:

The panel also places the entrance perforation on the lower, in the back area, a few inches lower than illustrated in this drawing. (1 HSCA 256)
The back wound abrasion collar does indeed show that the bullet entered at an angle slightly upward with respect to the surface of the skin at that location. IIRC, someone many years ago determined that the the upward angle was about 7 degrees from perpendicular to the surface. However, it is important to remember that the wound was located in the trapezius muscle above the top of the scapula, and when upright, the body surface in this area has a considerable forward slant. A normal vector drawn from any point in this area perpendicular to the surface of the body will then point upwards more than seven degrees. That is, the bullet can be travelling downwards in the cardinal axes and still be travelling "upwards" when it hits am angles surface. 
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Acoustic Evidence
« Last post by Mitch Todd on Today at 03:58:00 AM »
No, he does not. By the time Bowers talked with Mark Lane, he was afraid to say anything that would expressly place a gunman on the grassy knoll. Were both of his friends who spoke on the record lying when they disclosed that Bowers did not tell the WC everything he saw? Was Bowers' wife lying when she said her husband was warned not to talk?

And you guys do nothing but present labored, dubious denials when it comes to the clear implication of Bowers' testimony about the three cars that did an obvious recon of the area behind the knoll in the 20-30 minutes leading up to the assassination. The cars clearly weren't looking for a parking space. Bowers himself noted that the cars appeared to be "probing" the area, and that the second car's driver appeared to be talking into a microphone. But, oh, nah, according to you, this was just some strange, cosmic coincidence that just "must" have an innocent explanation, even though you can't provide one that makes any sense.

As for the number of shots that Bowers said he heard, it is rather lame to cite this as some kind of concrete proof that only three shots were fired. Some witnesses said they heard four or more shots. A number of witnesses said they only heard two shots. A few witnesses said they only heard one shot. The scientific acoustical evidence proves that at least four shots were fired, and the Zapruder film shows six reactions to gunfire.

And I notice you said nothing about Bowers' statement that two of the shots came in very rapid succession, too quickly to have been fired by the same person if using a bolt-action rifle. In fact, a number of witnesses said the thing, that two of the shots came right on top of each other, as "bang, bang," with virtually no break in between. But, yeah, never mind that, right?

You are correct. I was thinking of Charles Brehm.
MG: No, he does not.

No, it's exactly what he says. Did you not read the interview transcript?


MG: By the time Bowers talked with Mark Lane, he was afraid to say anything that would expressly place a gunman on the grassy knoll. Were both of his friends who spoke on the record lying when they disclosed that Bowers did not tell the WC everything he saw? Was Bowers' wife lying when she said her husband was warned not to talk?

You did read Six Seconds in Dallas and Last Second in Dallas, specifically where Thompson discusses Bowers and relates what Bowers told him, right? Also, the source for Bowers' widow is Penn Jones, who is worth less than a hill of beans as a source. 


MG: And you guys do nothing but present labored, dubious denials when it comes to the clear implication of Bowers' testimony about the three cars that did an obvious recon of the area behind the knoll in the 20-30 minutes leading up to the assassination.

He saw three cars cruising around a parking lot. Like people do when they are looking for a place to park for an impending event about to occur nearby. The sort of thing that people see every day, everywhere. There is no mystery here, no matter what you and your fellow CTs so desperately want to believe.


MG: The scientific acoustical evidence proves that at least four shots were fired

The "acoustic evidence" is crap, based on a novel and unproven procedure. With the changes that were made by the courts in the 1990s, it probably wouldn't be admissible in a trial today.


the Zapruder film shows six reactions to gunfire.

And we're back to that happy little game where every movement someone in the limo makes is "a reaction" and then "a reaction to a gunshot."




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What are you talking about? There was no "rear" exit wound on JFK's head, since the bullet that killed him was clearly fired from above and behind.

Please don't confuse Doyle with the facts.
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SMG--

Verily, JFK was an ardent and active global anti-communist. That JFK might make adjustments in his Vietnam anti-communist policies and strategies is hardly a reason for anyone to assassinate JFK.

JFK's acceding to a plot to stage a US-financed coup against the Diems remains a blot on his record, especially as he was warned the coup would likely be lethal, and could destabilize SV, which it did.

Nevertheless, read JFK statements why he created (or revivified) the Green Beret and USAID. All about fighting global communism. Why did JFK risk a nuke war over Cuba? To keep communism out of the New World.

The leftists have tried to re-frame JFK as singing kumbaya with Castro and Khrushchev, and holding hands with Muslim dictatorships and despots, but it is all demented hagiography.

RFK was assassinated for being an Israel-backer.
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-- This same WC apologist has just argued that the Connally wrist fragments and thigh fragment could have come from CE 399 because they supposedly had a combined weight of only 2.3 grains, citing Robert Frazier's suspiciously light weight of 0.5 grains for the four wrist fragments, which would mean they were nothing but flakes. 0.5 grains is the weight of two particles of dust, a human eyelash, or a pinch of powder. 

So, Robert Frazier lied, eh?   ::)

Dr Gregory said that the largest fragment was approximately 2mm in diameter and that none of the fragments had a greater thickness than 0.5mm.

Looking at the fragments that he removed, the only one that stands out at all is the 2mm one. The other three were too insignificant in size to even be included in the description of CE-842. Specter referred to them in the singular, as did Frazier as well. Audrey Bell did as well on the transfer receipt. Agent J. Doyle William also referred to them in the singular.



We'll assume that the 2mm fragment was 0.5mm thick. At 2mm x 0.5mm, the fragment weighed 17.8 milligrams , which is one quarter of a grain. Frazier obviously rounded up to one half of a grain.
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SMG--

Thanks for your reply.

I have little confidence that either Havana or Moscow (Minsk) would ever release any documents that would reveal LHO as an asset, or that he was working for Bruce Solie, who was a KGB asset.

I have no idea if such documents exist, ever existed, or have been destroyed. Sadly enough, both Moscow and Havana remain brutal dictatorships. Whatever comes out of those capitals in the last 63 years has been to besmirch the US image and sanitize theirs.

What I am saying is that serious people, such as former CIA Director James Woolsey, concluded LHO was a KGB asset, but also that President LBJ on 11/24 put the kibosh on following up that narrative.

I am sure you know the backstory of LHO visiting three KGB officers in Mexico City in September-October 1963. LHO  ties to G2 or DGI assets. Castro's public warning in September that assassinations can go both ways (this after the Kennedy Administration tried to assassinate Castro a few times).

The HSCA concluded there had been a gunshot at the GK when the JFK limo passed, and that there was a probability of a JFKAC.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions. They will be as good as anyone else's.

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Hi Alex, to be honest, I'm coming up with an even quicker time for the beginning of the Darnell footage that begins with this frame:



It's something closer to 19 seconds as I believe Weigman is in position filming the Hesters during this frame.
Whatever the case, a big thanks to yourself for providing some excellent quality footage to work with.

   It has always been a mystery to me why the Hesters would move from the Bench Area back to roughly the middle of the Pergola and THEN believe they needed to get down on the ground. Same goes for Mumford moving from the curb to up on the Knoll and THEN getting down on the ground. And the Chism Family moving from the curb/street, going well UP the knoll and THEN literally sprinting across it to the other side of Officer Haygood's motorcycle.
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I never really share this info before but, well, here goes nothing, I'm actually 14, and i never actually shot on film, i'm from Brazil, and, see, unlike Alex (great guy by the way), i don't have $1500 or anywhere near that to pay for scans, But hopefully in the future when i sell my kidneys- i mean, find a way to make money, i wanted to have a HD scan of the DCA film, yes i'm a DCA fanboy. I have done amateur multi camera syncronizations of some films before but i never really touched anything Darnell, Wiegman or Couch related (probably because all those films don't surface in the best quality), heck, i personally get tired of always seeing constant re-uploads of the Groden DVD. Which isn't ideal, since i'm looking for unique sources, but oh well, the JFKA community is one hell of a community.

    If you have access to "YOU TUBE", you can access Alex's\"The JFK Theorist" videos there. This includes many of the JFK Assassination Films in higher definition. The Groden DVD is garbage compared to what Alex has posted. There are others on YOU TUBE that have posted Hi Def JFK Assassination films too. This includes the Zapruder Film.
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I never really share this info before but, well, here goes nothing, I'm actually 14, and i never actually shot on film, i'm from Brazil, and, see, unlike Alex (great guy by the way), i don't have $1500 or anywhere near that to pay for scans, But hopefully in the future when i sell my kidneys- i mean, find a way to make money, i wanted to have a HD scan of the DCA film, yes i'm a DCA fanboy. I have done amateur multi camera syncronizations of some films before but i never really touched anything Darnell, Wiegman or Couch related (probably because all those films don't surface in the best quality), heck, i personally get tired of always seeing constant re-uploads of the Groden DVD. Which isn't ideal, since i'm looking for unique sources, but oh well, the JFKA community is one hell of a community.
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We don't know when the preparation took place but since Oswald hadn't filled any of his assigned orders that morning, he had plenty of time.

Exactly when did he have plenty of time to make the Sniper's Perch and assemble his rifle?

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We also don't know whether he stacked the boxes to make the wall or just took advantage of what was there. A crew was laying a new floor and they might have stacked those boxes up to get them out of the way while they worked on another part of the floor. In any case, we know a wall of boxes had been built by someone,

No-one mentioned anything about him building the wall. Why are you going on about that? Why not read the posts you are responding to.
The "Rolling Reader" boxes used to make the Sniper's Perch were taken from a few aisles away. Therefore, in your scenario, Oswald got these boxes and brought them to the Sniper's Nest to construct a rest for the rifle.
The long bag in the corner led the Warren Commission to speculate that Oswald took the disassembled rifle to that corner and reassemble it sat on a box by the Perch. They also concluded it took about 6 minutes to assemble the rifle.

So, when, exactly, did Oswald have all this "plenty of time" to make these preparations?

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and we know Oswald had reassembled his rifle prior to using it to kill JFK. It is unnecessary to prove when he did it.

As you will see, it's very necessary for it to be established when he made these preparations.

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