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I was hoping that under new owner Andrew Iler, and the nine-member (!) moderator panel, the anti-Semitic crackpots at the Education Forum-JFKA would be curbed.

After all, the lead crackpot, former "moderator" William Niedernut, has disappeared entirely, although the EF-JFLA was his raison d'être. Maybe Niedernut is on suicide watch somewhere.

But the kook-crackpots are still operating in force, with their CT's that the Jews and Mossad perped the JFKA.

Epstein is still a favorite main-bar topic at the EF-JFKA, something to do with Jew-cabals running the planet, despite zero connection between the Kennedy assassination and Epstein.

Typical recent EF-JFKA post content  (Screen Capture)

The EF-JFKA has some good participants...but also many who defecate on themselves, and the EF-JFKA, in public and frequently.

Well, I don't know that we can say that positing Israeli involvement in JFK's death is automatically anti-Semitic or that anyone who posits such involvement must be anti-Semitic.

However, I think it is entirely fair to say, based on their posts and replies, that most of the EF members who posit Israeli complicity are clearly anti-Israeli and pro-Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran.

When I've accused some of those EF folks of posting anti-Semitic material, they have insisted they have nothing against Jews as people but are talking about certain Israeli leaders and Israeli intelligence operatives at the time. I believe some of them and disbelieve others.

There is often a very fine line between being anti-Israeli and being anti-Semitic.

Like you, I believe that Niederhut is anti-Semitic.
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I was hoping that under new owner Andrew Iler, and the nine-member (!) moderator panel, the anti-Semitic crackpots at the Education Forum-JFKA would be curbed.

After all, the lead crackpot, former "moderator" William Niedernut, has disappeared entirely, although the EF-JFKA was his raison d'être. Maybe Niedernut is on suicide watch somewhere.

But the kook-crackpots are still operating in force, with their CT's that the Jews and Mossad perped the JFKA.

Epstein is still a favorite main-bar topic at the EF-JFKA, something to do with Jew-cabals running the planet, despite zero connection between the Kennedy assassination and Epstein.

Typical recent EF-JFKA post content (Screen Capture)




The EF-JFKA has some good participants...but also many who defecate on themselves, and the EF-JFKA, in public and frequently.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The smell of gunpowder
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 03:54:24 AM »
JC--

My best guess is the GK diversion was created to allow LHO and a second shooter better odds of leaving the TSBD unmolested. Indeed, police manpower was split up in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA. The diversion broadly worked.

In any event, the second official investigation into the JFKA, the HSCA-1979, concluded there was likely a JFKA conspiracy. The HSCA was full of smart and skeptical guys, who did not buy into sub-CTs, such the BYP pics being fake, or that LHO never ordered a weapon.

Unfortunately, the HSCA did not conclude who LHO's co-conspirators were. Some HSCA members say they ran out of time. I think they may have been barking up the wrong trees (CIA or Mob, rather than G2, DGI or KGB).

On the other hand, the WC LNT resulted from LBJ's diktat that nothing be found that might trigger a nuke war with Russia. At that time, a very real and tangible possibility, since the US and Russia had nearly nuked it out over Cuba in 1962. So was born the WC-LNT, also an unproven narrative. In some ways I do not blame LBF. Even if the KGB-G2 had assassinated JFK, a nuke war would be a horrible result.

The WC-LNT never even faced a legal test in court, let alone a compelling scientific test.

So, we have two unproven narratives regarding the JFKA.

Draw you own conclusions.

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As part of an ongoing project testing the forensic/ballistic elements of the assassination. I’ve done extensive and redundant ballistic testing, trajectory analysis and forensic reconstructions. To test the head shot trajectory and fragmentation pattern, I shot three intact pig’s heads.  I had pre and post X-rays taken.  Using surplus 6.5 Carcano on one of the heads, the shot did not explode the head and left a relatively small exit hole (8-9mm) with minor skull fracturing.  A witness panel 2 feet behind the head revealed only a slight yaw and the x-ray showed no fragmentation/jacket separation.  The maintained its trajectory through the skull into the witness panel.  Then using .257 Roberts with a thin jacketed sierra matchking projectile at 3300 fps, it took out the occipital skull and most of the brain with it.  It left the characteristic lead snowstorm on the x-ray and the smallest of fragments on the witness panel. 

I was a little uncertain as to the cortical thickness of the skull so I did a separate test shooting a 7 mm thick pork shoulder blade embedded on one end of a 8 inch ballistic gel block and pork ribs on the other end.  The Carcano round made a 6 mm round hole in the shoulder blade, cut a straight path through the ballistic gel, and clipped the edge of one if the ribs leaving a perfect semi circle.  The witness panel again showed a slight yaw and no fragmentation/jacket separation whatsoever with no deviation in trajectory. 

I’ve long been skeptical of the trajectories of CE 567 and 569, so that was the purpose of the test—but I couldn’t get the Carcano jacket to shear.

I have said for a long time that no shooting can be perfectly replicated. There are simply too many variables. Even if a pig skull replicates JFK's skull, which of course it doesn't, even a slight change in the angle of entry could produce an entirely different result. A recreation can show what MIGHT have happened but it can never prove what did happen. You could do your experiment 100 times and you would likely get 100 different results. Some of them might be very similar, but none are going to be identical.

The proof of what CAN happen when a 6.5 X 52mm Carcano bullet strikes a human skull lay on the floor of the presidential limo and in the photos and x-rays of JFK's skull. There is no evidence of any other type of bullet having been fired at JFK that day. 3 spent shells were found on the 6th floor of the TSBD that were positively matched to the rifle found a short distance away and that rifle was positively matched to CE399 found at Parkland and to two of the fragments found on the floor of the limo. It doesn't take Columbo to figure out the fragmented bullet found on the floor of the limo was the one that struck JFK's skull and also cracked the windshield and dented the frame. For that to possible, it only needed to happen once. It does not need to be duplicated.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The smell of gunpowder
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 02:02:20 AM »
JC-

I do not believe anyone tried to frame LHO, except posthumously.

My best guess is the GK smoke-and-bang show as a diversion worked. The man with Secret Service credentials, witnessed by two separate law enforcement officers, left the scene, after attracting a great deal of attention to the area. Likely by firing a snub-nose .38.

Only LHO said he was a patsy. LHO may have believed he had been left "holding the bag." A promised ride from the TSBD never materialized, while co-conspirators escaped. Or maybe LHO was just talking off the top of his head.

I have never read a compelling explanation of the Tague shot, from any camp, CT or LNT.

Some LNT'ers believe some lead squirted out from a FMJ bullet as it struck the right-lower rear section of JFK's head (Z-312), and flew over towards Tague, and struck the curb with such force as to send fragments up toward Tague's face and cause small cuts.

I give that explanation very low odds.

Why would anyone create a diversion?

As for the Tague shot, this is a rare instance in which I agree with you. There is no definitive proof of what caused Tague's injury. The only evidence we have of any gunshots in Dealey Plaza are the three Oswald fired and since CE399 was the second shot Oswald fired, that kind of narrows it down.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The smell of gunpowder
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 01:47:26 AM »
JC-

I do not believe anyone tried to frame LHO, except posthumously.

My best guess is the GK smoke-and-bang show as a diversion worked. The man with Secret Service credentials, witnessed by two separate law enforcement officers, left the scene, after attracting a great deal of attention to the area. Likely by firing a snub-nose .38.

Only LHO said he was a patsy. LHO may have believed he had been left "holding the bag." A promised ride from the TSBD never materialized, while co-conspirators escaped. Or maybe LHO was just talking off the top of his head.

I have never read a compelling explanation of the Tague shot, from any camp, CT or LNT.

Some LNT'ers believe some lead squirted out from a FMJ bullet as it struck the right-lower rear section of JFK's head (Z-312), and flew over towards Tague, and struck the curb with such force as to send fragments up toward Tague's face and cause small cuts.

I give that explanation very low odds.






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MTG--

Thanks for commenting, and I am still reading your excellent book on SV, which I will review here.

We have different views on the JFKA, which I think was very small, and even improvised when circumstances were presented.

But hey, that is what a forum is for, to see different views.
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As part of an ongoing project testing the forensic/ballistic elements of the assassination. I’ve done extensive and redundant ballistic testing, trajectory analysis and forensic reconstructions. To test the head shot trajectory and fragmentation pattern, I shot three intact pig’s heads.  I had pre and post X-rays taken.  Using surplus 6.5 Carcano on one of the heads, the shot did not explode the head and left a relatively small exit hole (8-9mm) with minor skull fracturing.  A witness panel 2 feet behind the head revealed only a slight yaw and the x-ray showed no fragmentation/jacket separation.  The maintained its trajectory through the skull into the witness panel.  Then using .257 Roberts with a thin jacketed sierra matchking projectile at 3300 fps, it took out the occipital skull and most of the brain with it.  It left the characteristic lead snowstorm on the x-ray and the smallest of fragments on the witness panel. 

I was a little uncertain as to the cortical thickness of the skull so I did a separate test shooting a 7 mm thick pork shoulder blade embedded on one end of a 8 inch ballistic gel block and pork ribs on the other end.  The Carcano round made a 6 mm round hole in the shoulder blade, cut a straight path through the ballistic gel, and clipped the edge of one if the ribs leaving a perfect semi circle.  The witness panel again showed a slight yaw and no fragmentation/jacket separation whatsoever with no deviation in trajectory. 

I’ve long been skeptical of the trajectories of CE 567 and 569, so that was the purpose of the test—but I couldn’t get the Carcano jacket to shear. 
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Did Ruby really kill Oswald?
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 10:25:32 PM »
    To this day, we still have the Fake News Media, (MSNBC/MSNOW), claiming the Trump assassination attempt was staged. And that Trump did not suffer any kind of gunshot injury. The rejection of Stone Cold Fact(s) is not restricted to CT's, the JFK Assassination, or the psychedelic 60's in general.

So are you saying JFK CT nuttiness is on par with MSNOW nuttiness?
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