JFK Assassination Forum

No. But they can see how a person is facing when they hear a shot.

Do you honestly believe anyone took note of which way JBC was facing when they heard the first shot. In fact, I doubt there were many if any spectators looking at JBC. Their attention would have been focused on Jack and Jackie. They were the ones the spectators came to see.

We cannot see him behind the sign but when he emerges at z224-225 we can see that he is already reacting:

We can also see JBC's right shoulder suddenly dip at Z225, one frame before he flips his arm upward. You continue to pretend that never happened because you have no explanation for why JBC would suddenly flip his arm upward and precisely the same time JFK raised his arms.

Since we cannot see him behind the sign we don't know when that reaction began. It looks to me like it may have started after z193:

Now you are just imagining things. JFK shows no reaction from Z193 until he goes behind the sign. When he reemerges, his right hand is still going down. It doesn't start up until Z226, the same frame JBC's right arm flips upward. And you want to chalk that up to coincidence.

Well, he never said he did that in relation to the second shot either. 

YES HE DID!

Where do you see him doubling over before z278?2 H 132-133:

Open your damn eyes!
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It is preposterous to think JBC is not reacting to the shot that hit him less than a second and a half earlier. Anybody who denies that cannot be taken seriously and you sure as hell are not and never will be as long as you continue to peddle this nonsense.

• "We had just made the turn, well, when I heard what I thought was a shot. I heard this noise which I immediately took to be a rifle shot. I instinctively turned to my right because the sound appeared to come from over my right shoulder, so I turned to look back over my right shoulder, and I saw nothing unusual except, just people in the crowd, but I did not catch the President in the corner of my eye, and I was interested, because once I heard the shot in my own mind I identified it as a rifle shot, and I immediately-the only thought that crossed my mind was that this is an assassination attempt. So I looked, failing to see him. I was turning to look back'

I have never said that he reacted to being shot in the thigh.  He said he never felt it. It is not uncommon for people not to feel bullets, especially in the extremities.

Did you just make that up? Never mind. I already know the answer to that. The reason JBC didn't feel the thigh wound was sensory overload. He didn't even know his wrist had been shattered because the chest wound overloaded his nervous system and it was the only thing he remembered feeling.

In fact, the fragment that struck Tague had to have a slow enough average speed over the 280 feet from the car at z271 to Tague in order to have enough time to drop to the pavement.  On a 3 degree decline after clearing the top of the windshield it would have had to have dropped almost 15 feet to strike the road near Tague. That would take almost a full second.  So it would have to be travelling an average of 280 ft/sec.
That was Zeon's suggestion about the bullet striking the upholstery and there was a close inspection of the car and no such hole was found.  There is not enough evidence for us to determine how it ended up where it did.  But there are several ways in which it could have happened. After passing though JFK, tumbling over the ensuing 4 feet of air and then, while spinning, striking the thigh butt-first on an angle plowing through leg muscle until reaching the femur depositing the lead fragment in the femur it may have bounced back.  It may have come out of the wound or it may have stayed in the wound.  Or it may have kept going and struck something in the car that caused it to bounce back without causing damage.  It may have bounced up and back off the thigh and ended up on JBC's lap or in the back seat or on JFK.  The person who found it was of the view that it came not from Connally's stretcher but from stretcher B that was already in the hallway and had some bloody sheets on it.

You theories get even more preposterous the hard you try to save your turkey of a scenario. Just to get over the front seat and Kellerman the bullet would have to have deflected upward at a very steep angle. It's hard to believe that a bullet striking JBC's wrist would cause that much change in direction but even if it did, it would now be flying in a parabolic arc. If my chance it came down and hit the curb in front of Tague, it's primary force would be gravity, not momentum and it would not have cause the chip in the pavement that apparently caused Tague's superficial face wound.

I have lost count of the ridiculous and impossible things you have pieced together to concoct this fantasy scenario of yours. It doesn't make the least bit of sense. It never did and it never will. Why do you keep embarrassing yourself by clinging to it.

TG:

I never understood the "Russia is OK" sentiment on the right-wing, which has some roots extending all the way back to Pat Buchanan, the Nixon guy.

Of course, the lefties were always for accommodating Russia, see James DiEugenio and Putin-puppet Oliver Stone. They have even re-fabricated the JFK legacy to their left-wing ideologies and agendas.

IMHO, you are correct in your assessment of the narratives around the JFKA, some funded by Moscow, and in latter years, some by Tehran.

It is an artifact of the times that while the JFKA LNT captured most of of the political right, the JFKA CT captured most of the political left. Almost no one has researched the JFKA CTs that point to Havana or Moscow, with rare exceptions such as James Woolsey or Gus Russo.

In JFKA-land, the ideology writes the agenda, and the agenda writes the narrative.

"Iran Iran Iran"

You sound like a MOSSAD agent.

TG:

I never understood the "Russia is OK" sentiment on the right-wing, which has some roots extending all the way back to Pat Buchanan, the Nixon guy.

Of course, the lefties were always for accommodating Russia, see James DiEugenio and Putin-puppet Oliver Stone. They have even re-fabricated the JFK legacy to their left-wing ideologies and agendas.

IMHO, you are correct in your assessment of the narratives around the JFKA, some funded by Moscow, and in latter years, some by Tehran.

It is an artifact of the times that while the JFKA LNT captured most of of the political right, the JFKA CT captured most of the political left. Almost no one has researched the JFKA CTs that point to Havana or Moscow, with rare exceptions such as James Woolsey or Gus Russo.

In JFKA-land, the ideology writes the agenda, and the agenda writes the narrative.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

Keep believing that. It gives this forum some much needed comic relief.

Far-Right (as well as Far-Left) zombified-by-KGB-disinformation "useful idiots" like you will never discern the overall picture, Corbett.

Case in point:

It's ironic that you're so right about the mechanics of the JFK assassination but don't realize that the CTs' hero, overly ambitious, scandal-plagued, revengeful Jim Garrison, was duped by a KGB article that appeared in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper three days after he'd arrested Clay Shaw on suspicion of having masterminded the homosexual "thrill-kill" assassination into believing that the evil, evil CIA had killed JFK, which idea Comrade Stone popularized in his 1991 self-described mythological ("to counter the myth of the Warren Report") film, "JFK," which itself was based on Garrison's specious 1988 book, On the Trail of the Assassins and Jim Marrs' book, Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy.

Sad.

Very sad.

He surely did, with help from 60-plus years of KGB* disinformation, "active measures" (can you say, e.g., "AIDS was created by the CIA!!!" and Oliver Stone's "JFK"?), and strategic deception counterintelligence operations, his GRU hackers, his professional St. Petersburg trolls, oodles and gobs of zombified "useful idiots" (or worse; can you say Julian Assange?), and corrupt S.O.B.s like Paul Manafort (in conjunction with GRU officer Konstantin Kiliminik and Putin's buddy, Oleg Deripaska), et al., ad nauseum.

*Today's SVR and FSB

Keep believing that. It gives this forum some much needed comic relief.