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No, but what would matter would be if (1) JFK were gagging on a bullet in his mouth or (2) his reactions were to a shot from the front or otherwise indicative of a non-SBT scenario. Both have been argued. I think it's pretty clear this isn't a Thorburn reaction but is an involuntary neuromuscular reaction.

Why would anyone contemplate either of these silly explanations?

Thousands of things have been argued. The assassination only happened one way. It's not very hard to figure out either. The only mystery is why so many people have such a hard time with it.
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There is a significant change in JFK after z193:



The change may begin before z193 if the change in right hand is part of the reaction:



Several witnesses put the first shot when JFK was between the lamp post and the Thornton sign (z190-z200).

Yes, I have been emphasizing that John Orr's Mafia-did-it scenario has the shot at around Z200 and that the women in the Gloria Calvery group all said JFK was right in front of them (or "almost directly in front" of them, which according to Dan O'Meara is such a massive difference that I am a complete dolt for failing to grasp the cosmic significance  :D :D :D).
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No, we have already arrived at the point where a imaginary "CT" (in the mind of a fanatical zealot LN) has explained the evidence for two wallets and just about all LNs couldn't answer the simple questions asked, leaving us with Mitch who is always playing games and never ever presents any logical explanation or even a shred of evidence. In this case he hasn't even made a point beyond that he can't find figure it out.
The Weidmann method:

1.) Make unsupported assertion.

2.) Demand that the other guy find evidence for said unsupported assertion

3.) Whine that the other guy is "playing games"

 :D
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I don't think it matters at all whether it was Thorburn or not which is why I don't have a strong opinion about it one way or the other.

No, but what would matter would be if (1) JFK were gagging on a bullet in his mouth or (2) his reactions were to a shot from the front or otherwise indicative of a non-SBT scenario. Both have been argued. I think it's pretty clear this isn't a Thorburn reaction but is an involuntary neuromuscular reaction.
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At page 116 of this thread, Dan O'Meara has an extended discussion as to why JFK's rapid and bizarre arm movements must be attributed to a reflex action from a shot at Z223-224 (yay, Dan!). Andrew Mason points out that we cannot see JFK between Z207-224 and that there is evidence of a beginning of a reaction with hand movements before Z207 (yay, Andrew!). Assuming that what we see is indeed a neurological reflex reaction, it would be interesting to see a qualified medical discussion as to how such a reaction might evolve - i.e., must it be instantaneous (or virtually so) or might it progress from what we see before Z207 to what we see at Z225?

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2723.805.html

As far as the reaction to the wound is concerned, the notion that it cause a neurological response is not supported by any medical evidence.  Lattimer, who was two letters short of being a neurologist, suggested he was immediately assuming a position that a patient of Dr. Thorburn observed his patient assume a few days after his spinal cord was severed. 

There is a significant change in JFK after z193:



The change may begin before z193 if the change in right hand is part of the reaction:



Several witnesses put the first shot when JFK was between the lamp post and the Thornton sign (z190-z200).
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I don't think Lattimer was the first to theorize the Thorburn position. I can't remember when I first read it but it's been a long time. I don't think it matters at all whether it was Thorburn or not which is why I don't have a strong opinion about it one way or the other. The shot to the head essentially ended function of his brain and central nervous system. He was technically alive for about another 20 minutes but I doubt he ever had another conscious thought.

Interesting about Bob Artwohl being on Compuserve in 1994. He was a regular on our old Prodigy board in the early 1990s, as was MTG and myself. He started out on the CT team but switched jerseys. He's the only one that I know of who did that. Our Prodigy group broke up when they changed their fee structure to charge for posts beyond a certain number which wasn't very generous. Apparently Bob found a new home at Compuserve. I ended up going to AOL. By the time I joined the McAdams forum in 2008, he was done posting there. I found some of his older posts on the archive but never saw a new post from him.
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It's not my problem that you can't figure it out. This is a pointless conversation.
I found out a long time ago that I can't fix stupid
Umm hmm. I thought so. Nothing.
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JFK was hit at Z223-224 approximate if we believe what our eyes are seeing when viewing the Z-film.

That' always a good place to start. Amazing how many people skip that step.
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It’s obvious the 6th floor shooter was making stupid decisions, the primary one being to choose to shoot from high elevation at a moving target rather than a place where JFK was a statuary target standing giving a speech. Charlie Kirk was killed with just one shot from 200 YARDS away by an inexperienced leftwing woke  Kook using a .308 rifle with a scope.[/quote\\

I wouldn't second guess Oswald given that he succeeded in what he was trying to do, maybe for the first time in his life. I don't think taking the first shot was a stupid decision. True, he had little chance hitting JFK by taking that shot. He had no chance of hitting JFK if he didn't take that shot.
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So the 1st shot could be Z224 , the 2nd shot 4.8 secs later at Z313 and the 3rd shot 2-3 secs after that aiming at anything particular because either the shooter was the Marxist Kook Oswald or he was a conspirator who for some reason was compelled to choose to shoot from TSBD in order to set up Oswald.

Oswald started with four rounds in his rifle. If he hadn't scored a kill on his third shot, he still would have been able to take a fourth. He determined that wasn't necessary as he saw JFK fall over to his left with a gaping head wound.
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Ye gods, am I ever bored. The winds are 60 mph and I'm trapped inside. I did find this 2021 thread from the McAdams forum in which several of this forum's participants - including John C, Steve G, and Mark U weighed in (along with wacky Gil Jesus, who steered us to a YouTube video proving - PROVING, I tell you! - that JFK was attempting to cough up a recalcitrant meatball bullet): https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/mIy5MUtYgYg.

Mark made the same point I do here (yay, Mark!): what we see with JFK is indeed a neuromuscular reaction but NOT the Thorburn reaction. Indeed, one of the criticisms of Lattimer's claim in the article I linked was precisely that the reaction observed by Thorburn was nothing like instantaneous but was fully developed only days later. Mark quoted from John McAdams' Assassination Logic (yay, John!) as follows:

"Lattimer was responsible for another bit of pseudoscience related to the case. In the wake of the bullet strike to his torso, Kennedy’s arms move sharply upward, toward his throat. He doesn’t actually grasp at his throat, and his fists are balled up in what looks like an involuntary reaction. Lattimer found a 'golden oldie' (from 1889) of an article in a medical journal and decided that Kennedy had assumed 'Thorburn’s position' — something documented as happening in the wake of trauma to the spine. Kennedy’s arm movements were indeed a neuromuscular reaction, but not the one Thorburn described, since Torburn’s position develops over days or weeks or even months. (130)

(130) Lattimer, Kennedy and Lincoln, chapter 11; Bob Artwohl, post on Compuserve forum, April 6, 1994, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/thorburn.txt."


The link to Dr. Artwohl's post no longer works, but Mark steered folks to this letter from Dr. Strully, a NH neurosurgeon, to Dr. Artwohl: https://www.jfk-assassination.net/strully.txt.

What should profoundly amaze you is that Dr. Payette, having no idea what he was even talking about, nonetheless correctly diagnosed what is going on here - i.e., the bizarre movement of JFK's arms is indeed a neuromuscular reaction, just not a Thorburn reaction. The Thorburn thing is a red herring clutching at its gills with its little flippers (or fins or whatever red herrings have).

I am not surprised that anyone might think JFK was clutching at his throat because (1) he did have a throat wound and (2) that's kind of what it looks like.
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JFK was hit at Z223-224 approximate if we believe what our eyes are seeing when viewing the Z-film.

It’s obvious the 6th floor shooter was making stupid decisions, the primary one being to choose to shoot from high elevation at a moving target rather than a place where JFK was a statuary target standing giving a speech. Charlie Kirk was killed with just one shot from 200 YARDS away by an inexperienced leftwing woke  Kook using a .308 rifle with a scope.

So the 1st shot could be Z224 , the 2nd shot 4.8 secs later at Z313 and the 3rd shot 2-3 secs after that aiming at anything particular because either the shooter was the Marxist Kook Oswald or he was a conspirator who for some reason was compelled to choose to shoot from TSBD in order to set up Oswald.

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