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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Death by Org Chart
« Last post by Mark A. Oblazney on Today at 05:16:06 AM »
Death by Org Chart

Paul Bleau's recent article on Assassination Inc. examines the org charts of CIA personnel involved in various operations. From this he is able to deduce the JFK conspiracy. It's incredibly silly and unserious. But that's the current state of JFK assassination research.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/death-by-org-chart
Thanks Fred.  Harvey’s wife’s interview was something to see as well.
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AI version:

Historian Ken Hughes from the Miller Center has used newly unclassified historical evidence and secret White House recordings to reveal President John F. Kennedy's direct, hidden role in the 1963 coup against South Vietnamese President Ngô Đình Diệm.Key

Research Findings

The Green Light: Newly examined audio recordings show that JFK gave U.S. Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. a functional "green light" to move forward with replacing Diệm, challenging the long-held myth that Lodge acted entirely on his own.

Outcome: The tapes and documentation indicate that while the Kennedy administration did not explicitly order an execution, Washington officials and JFK were well aware that a military coup could result in the assassination of Diệm and his brother.

Political Motives: Hughes's research highlights that Kennedy’s primary objective in backing a change in leadership was to secure a stable pro-American government and avoid losing Vietnam ahead of the 1964 presidential election.
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MTG--

Verily, I posted a couple times at EF-JFKA how JFK authorized the anti-Diem coup, despite being told it would likely result in the Diems' assassinations, and the complete lack of Kennedy Administration efforts to extract the Diems. Indeed, CIA inquiries about extracting the Diems were ignored---Lodge appeared to not want a government-in-exile situation, preferring the Diems dead.

There is a recorded conversation between Ambassador Lodge and JFK, in which Lodge lays this out, and many other warnings.

JFK responds, in part, by calling Madame Nhu a "bitch" and a lesbian (she appears to have been heterosexual).

There were different standards at play in 1963, and JFK tried to have Castro assassinated several times, and more-or-less authorized the Diems' assassinations. That is part of the historical record.

People forget that JFK was deeply instrumental to the founding of South Vietnam, and he committed 16,000 military personnel to SV to help it survive against communist terrorism---and JFK himself called it terrorism. Cardinal Spellman was an influential figure as well, and close to the Kennedy family.

JFK may have wanted to modestly reduce US presence in SV in late 1963, but he was not going to abandon SV.

President LBJ wondered out aloud if the Diems or Castro assassinations or attempts led to blowback.

All any reasonable reader has to do is to compare cites supporting what you've posted to accompany your arguments to
the quality of my supporting cites and....Oh! You haven't included any in your post. Nevermind.

https://aarclibrary.org/2017/09/27/jfk-had-ordered-full-withdrawal-from-vietnam-solid-evidence/

"JFK Had Ordered Full Withdrawal from Vietnam: Solid Evidence
PBS Vietnam Series: Glossing over JFK’s Exit Strategy
The second program alludes almost in passing to a withdrawal plan in 1962, conditioned on a then-optimistic assessment of how the war was going. But it also reports Kennedy's qualms, expressed to a friend, as "We don't have a prayer of staying in Vietnam. Those people hate us. They are going to throw..."
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MTG--

Verily, I posted a couple times at EF-JFKA how JFK authorized the anti-Diem coup, despite being told it would likely result in the Diems' assassinations, and the complete lack of Kennedy Administration efforts to extract the Diems. Indeed, CIA inquiries about extracting the Diems were ignored---Lodge appeared to not want a government-in-exile situation, preferring the Diems dead.

There is a recorded conversation between Ambassador Lodge and JFK, in which Lodge lays this out, and many other warnings.

JFK responds, in part, by calling Madame Nhu a "bitch" and a lesbian (she appears to have been heterosexual).

There were different standards at play in 1963, and JFK tried to have Castro assassinated several times, and more-or-less authorized the Diems' assassinations. That is part of the historical record.

People forget that JFK was deeply instrumental to the founding of South Vietnam, and he committed 16,000 military personnel to SV to help it survive against communist terrorism---and JFK himself called it terrorism. Cardinal Spellman was an influential figure as well, and close to the Kennedy family.

JFK may have wanted to modestly reduce US presence in SV in late 1963, but he was not going to abandon SV.

President LBJ wondered out aloud if the Diems or Castro assassinations or attempts led to blowback.

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Yeah, gun powder smells like exhaust fumes. The odor of gun powder was noticed right after the shots were fired. I see no way that the gun powder could have come all the way down from the sixth-floor window so quickly, especially given the size of the area in which witnesses smelled the odor.

What you can see is not a litmus test for what was.
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Keep in mind, too, that a number of witnesses also saw gunsmoke coming from a certain area right behind the picket fence on the knoll, and a cloud of apparent gunsmoke is visible in this vicinity in the Wiegman film. It could not have been exhaust fumes, nor could it have come from the steam pipe some 100 feet behind the fence.

Witnesses said they saw smoke. It is an assumption that it was gun smoke and highly likely that it was, given how quickly gun smoke dissipates and there was no evidence of a shooter on the GK on either side of the fence.
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As for a diversion, I think it's more likely that the sixth-floor window was the diversion. The gunman made no effort to conceal his presence from outside viewers. Five witnesses saw a gunman in the sixth-floor window. The gunman could have stood farther back from the window, which would have made it harder to see him and would have somewhat reduced the sound of his rifle firing.

The sixth floor was the only place shots were fired from on that day. It was the only place witnesses saw a gunman. It was the only place shells were found. It is where the owner of the murder weapon left his fingerprints. It was a short distance from where the murder weapon was found. The wounds were all caused by shots fired from above and behind the victims. In short, there is zero evidence of any shots fired from any location other the southeast corner window of the 6th floor of the TSBD.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Death by Org Chart
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 10:21:57 PM »
"Former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin cherishes the likes of Paul Bleau.
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There's no credible reason to doubt that the two men seen fast-walking up the extension in the Gerda Dunkel zoomed slow-motion Couch/Darnell clip are Lovelady & Shelley...The men are right where they were supposed to be according to testimony...Lovelady has the same dimension geometric plaid pattern as he is seen wearing in other photos and same bald spot...And Shelley has his body shape, black suit jacket, white shirt collar, and Duck's Ass hair doo...And he pulls up and talks to Karan Hicks as she goes by...

Anything less strikes me as deliberate misinformation designed to confuse...

This is evidence enough for persons truly seeking correct identification...

I believe the obtaining and enhancement of the 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy of Darnell will show Molina as the man being called Lovelady on the steps...

                                            "The men are right where they were supposed to be according to testimony" ?   

                  The WC Testimony of both Shelley and Lovelady places them on the Elm St Extension at roughly 3 MINUTES after the kill shot.We are seeing the 2 Guys walking down the Elm St Extension on the Couch/Darnell films at :20 SECONDS after the kill shot.
                   This is Not the Ed Forum. Stop polluting this Forum with  BS:
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