JFK Assassination Forum

That's interesting.

Oswald was ready to die.
He wrote in his "Historic Diary" about his suicide attempt and after he kills General Walker, Oswald writes in his Walker Note "If I'm still alive" obviously fully expecting to be killed by the Police.

And when arrested in the Texas Theater he pulls out his revolver and tries to kill McDonald, an act which if he succeeded would mean instant death. "Suicide by cop"

Also when he was arrested and riding back to DPHQ after he's told "I hear they burn for murder." Oswald replies with "Well, they say it just takes a second to die".

Oswald was unhinged with a death wish!

JohnM

It all would have hinged on whether Oswald chose to use the full appeals process available to him. Only one person who committed a murder after the JFKA and before the Supreme Court vacated all existing death penalty statutes was executed and that was a man who chose to accept his sentence without appealing it.
I believe the last execution in the US  prior to SCOTUS vacating the death penalty was in California in 1967 but that was for a murder committed before the JFKA.

Interestingly, the first two convicts executed after states reinstituted the death penalty were also men who chose not to fight their sentence. The most famous was Gary Gilmore made famous by Norman Mailer's book The Executioner's Song, later made into a TV movie starring a very young Tommy Lee Jones. Gilmore died by firing squad in Utah. I'm going to go out on a limb and trust my memory rather than look it up but I believe the second was a guy named Jesse Bishop and I think he died in Californias's gas chamber. I will look it up after I post this to see how good my memory is.

UPDATE: I looked it up and I correctly named Jesse Bishop and his method of execution but he died in Nevada's gas chamber, not California's. He was also the third person executed not the second. John Spenkelenk was the second and he died in Florida's electric chair. I remember the name and where he was executed and how but I thought he died after Bishop. Spenkelenk did fight his execution but ran out his appeals. Now it takes about 25 years for the appeals process to be exhausted. I have no idea why it should take so long but attorneys have figured out how to game the system and put off executions for decades.

McCloy of the WC made the same observation as you...although McCloy, in a conversation with Blakely, seemed to hint he thought there was more to the LHO story than known. "We just couldn't find evidence of it." said McCloy, or something to that effect.

Of course, other members of the WC ended up expressing reservations about the WC finding, including Richard Russell (for reasons related to my reasons), Hale Boggs and Cooper.

I still wonder why State Dep't careers were ended for even asking about LHO-G2 links.

I have belabored my views herein why I think there were likely three physical participants in the JFKA, so I will let it rest.

I have shown my case for a JFKAC to my satisfaction, but since I cannot even begin to show who were LHO's confederates, I won't pretend to know who they were.

The leftists and rightists, and anti-Semitic crackpots who fabricate elaborate JFKA CT's...well, they have never come even close to making a case.

But keep in mid---a very small, ad hoc informal plot, involving only the immediate participants, would be impossible to detect without actual capture of those participants. Only one was captured, and he soon dead.

You made my point for me. Your comments are rife with speculation and completely devoid of any credible evidence. I'll make the same challenge to you that I've made countless times over the years which no conspiracy hobbyist has been able to meet and few have tried.

List the three best pieces of evidence you have that someone other than Oswald took part in the assassinatiion:

1 _______________________________________________________

2 _______________________________________________________

3 _______________________________________________________


Notice I asked for evidence, not arguments or speculation.

Oswald would have easily been convicted of both murders and almost certainly would have been sentenced to death. I have serious doubts that the sentence would have ever been carried out. The infamous Clutter family murders in 1959 were also committed in November. It took 5 1/2 years for them to exhaust the appeals process before Perry Smith and Dick Hickock were hanged for the crimes. A similar length appeals process would have delayed Oswald's execution until 1969. By that year, there was a de facto moratorium on executions as the Supreme Court considered the constitutionality of the death penalty. In 1972 the Supreme Court ruled by a 5-4 margin that while the death penalty was constitutional, it created very specific guidelines for how it could be applied and they ruled that all current death penalty statutes failed to meet those guidelines and vacated all existing death sentences. In so doing, SCOTUS spared the lives of Sirhan Sirhan and Charles Manson as well as hundreds of other condemned convicts. Had Oswald been on death row at the time, he too would have been spared and the little bastard might still be doing time in the Texas Penitentiary. For that reason, I remain grateful to Jack Ruby. He did us all a huge favor by exterminating Oswald. I just hope Oswald suffered a great deal before he took his last breath.

That's interesting.

Oswald was ready to die.
He wrote in his "Historic Diary" about his suicide attempt and after he kills General Walker, Oswald writes in his Walker Note "If I'm still alive" obviously fully expecting to be killed by the Police.

And when arrested in the Texas Theater he pulls out his revolver and tries to kill McDonald, an act which if he succeeded would mean instant death. "Suicide by cop"

Also when he was arrested and riding back to DPHQ after he's told "I hear they burn for murder." Oswald replies with "Well, they say it just takes a second to die".

Oswald was unhinged with a death wish!

JohnM

You have a double-negative in your final sentence.

I have had to correct several double negatives in recent days but I don't see one in the post you commented on.

The time for being open minded about Oswald's guilt expired a long time ago when the WC presented overwhelming evidence that Oswald was JFK's assassin and the murderer of J. D. Tippit. My position on the possibility he was part of a conspiracy has been steadfast over the years. Not a single piece of credible evidence has ever surfaced that Oswald had even a single accomplice in his crime. That does not rule out the theoretical possibility there were accomplices, but after 62 years, the lack of such evidence makes that a highly remote possibility. If you ever come across such evidence, I'll be more than happy to look at it objectively. I have no interest in conspiracy theories based on assumptions and speculations which is the case for every JFKA conspiracy theory I have ever seen proposed.