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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 11:44:04 AM »
TG-

Each to his own.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 08:55:28 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 08:40:42 AM
TG-

Once again, that is my take on ~Z-295. Lines up with JBC's testimony too.

Caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.

Dear "BC,"

How accurate do you think most people are when trying to recount how they and someone near them were seriously wounded by the second of three unexpected shots at five-second intervals, and what they did before they lost consciousness?

Connally was "all wet" but, charismatic politician that he was, sounded oh-so convincing!

The only thing he got right was that he wasn't struck by Oswald's first shot.

LOL!

-- "TG"
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 08:40:42 AM »
TG-

Once again, that is my take on ~Z-295. Lines up with JBC's testimony too.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 06:20:37 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 05:34:12 AM
TG--

That's my take on ~Z-295.

BC

Dear "BC,"

Z-295 isn't worthy of a "take."

Once again, I beseech you:

Please show us Connally's being "doubled over" by a shot, any shot, before Nellie pulled him down into her lap.

-- "TG"
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 05:34:12 AM »
TG--

That's my take on ~Z-295.

BC
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Who Were the Two Men Heading *Down* the Stairs at NLT 12:50?
« Last post by Mitch Todd on Today at 01:48:28 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 02:41:59 PM
      Nobody fixes the position of someone back inside the railroad yard by detailing how far that person was from the TSBD. You simply revealed that you were unfamiliar with the newly found Darnell Film snippet. Learning something new is to be valued. It's what you learn after you know-it-all that really counts.
Again, I never mentioned how far Darnell was from the TSBD. Your entire reply is just a load of empty whargarrbl. We can locate where Darnell is directly from his film using the curbline of the Elm St extension and figuring out which railroad spur he is standing next to. Doing so puts Harkness directly west of the location of his meeting with Amos Euins. And if the latter location isn't "behind the TSBD", then Harkness' location in the Darnell film is also not behind the TSBD. 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 12:31:08 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 12:27:28 AM
JC-

Thanks for your cordial inquiry.

My layman's view of the Z-film is Gov. JBC shot at ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295.

This sequence also lines up with the "bang...bang-bang" cadence attested to by many witnesses (Kellerman shots came in a "flurry" or "on top of each other,' and many others).

There is also the observable and indisputable fact that JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat after JFK is apparently shot in the back ~Z-220.

Under SBT, that means, after having been shot through the chest, having his right wrist fractured, and the slug burrowed into his leg...only then JBC makes 180-degree turn in his seat to check on JFK.

And that JBC only imagined he was pushed forward by the slug that struck him in the back. Although he is indisputably seen being pushed forward ~Z-295.

The smoke-and-bang show on the GK is another interesting apparition, seen and heard by many. It may have been a diversion.

All that said, I suspect the JFKA was the work of a very small group, possibly Alpha 66 Dallas residents, and included LHO, or G2 assets. Those same residents may have worked with LHO on the Walker shooting attempt or intentional miss.

The Warren Commission was not interested in following leads, either into G2 and KGB, or into CIA assets in the US. G2 also also penetrated CIA Cuban assets in the US.

The LN narrative was settled on rather soon, and the FBI carried out most investigative work.

There were two guys in the State Department whose careers were ended as they wanted to follow up G2 leads, including the US Ambassador to Mexico.

But if the JFKA conspiracy involved more than three or four people, I would be surprised.

LHO, another gunsel behind JFK, and the GK diversion guy.

Dear "BC,"

Please show us Connally's being "doubled over" by a shot, any shot, before Nellie pulled him down into her lap.

I'm really looking forward to this.

-- "TG"
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 12:27:28 AM »
JC-

Thanks for your cordial inquiry.

My layman's view of the Z-film is Gov. JBC shot at ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295.

This sequence also lines up with the "bang...bang-bang" cadence attested to by many witnesses (Kellerman shots came in a "flurry" or "on top of each other,' and many others).

There is also the observable and indisputable fact that JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat after JFK is apparently shot in the back ~Z-220.

Under SBT, that means, after having been shot through the chest, having his right wrist fractured, and the slug burrowed into his leg...only then JBC makes 180-degree turn in his seat to check on JFK.

And that JBC only imagined he was pushed forward by the slug that struck him in the back. Although he is indisputably seen being pushed forward ~Z-295.

The smoke-and-bang show on the GK is another interesting apparition, seen and heard by many. It may have been a diversion.

All that said, I suspect the JFKA was the work of a very small group, possibly Alpha 66 Dallas residents, and included LHO, or G2 assets. Those same residents may have worked with LHO on the Walker shooting attempt or intentional miss.

The Warren Commission was not interested in following leads, either into G2 and KGB, or into CIA assets in the US. G2 also also penetrated CIA Cuban assets in the US.

The LN narrative was settled on rather soon, and the FBI carried out most investigative work.

There were two guys in the State Department whose careers were ended as they wanted to follow up G2 leads, including the US Ambassador to Mexico.

But if the JFKA conspiracy involved more than three or four people, I would be surprised.

LHO, another gunsel behind JFK, and the GK diversion guy.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: What do we see to the left of "Fedora Man on the Island" in the Wiegman clip?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 11:02:38 PM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 10:50:06 PM
  "Regardless"? You have absolutely no idea what car is parked where and you deem this "regardless"?  This is why your opinion(s) with respect to the "getaway" car are meaningless. You are completely lost.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

You're a xxxxxx' . . . aww . . . never mind.

Regardless, if you'll go to the 8:55 mark in this National Geographic documentary (thank you for turning me onto it) and look closely at the area directly behind the head of the man who's bending over to speak with Amos Euins, Harold Brennan or Donald Duck in Inspector Sawyers' or Bridgette Bardot's car, I think you'll see a small part of a light-colored car that's parked BETWEEN Inspector Sawyers' or Bridgette Bardot's car and the mostly visible light-colored car IN FRONT OF (i.e., in the direction of the railway yard / parking lot) IT.

I'm not referring to the dark-colored car that's parked down Elm Street Extension by your Huge Gates, nor am I referring, obviously, to the dark-colored car that's parked way, way down the street.

Am I right?

Can you see it?

Yes, or no?

If so, could that hard-to-see light-colored car be the one that your 1958 Pontiac Bonneville visually overlapped and "merged with" in Wiegman?

Or . . . gasp . . . could it have been that mostly visible car that's parked two cars ahead (i.e., in the direction of the railway yard / parking lot) of Inspector Sawyers' / Bridgette Bardot's car?

-- Tom

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4818.msg174640.html#msg174640
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: What do we see to the left of "Fedora Man on the Island" in the Wiegman clip?
« Last post by Royell Storing on Yesterday at 10:50:06 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Yesterday at 10:14:15 PM
Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Can the 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Getaway Car" be seen parked next to the "Island" at the 8:56 mark in the National Geographic documentary you turned me onto?


Yes, or no?

Regardless, in the frames around that 8:56 mark, can you see the two light-colored cars that are parked next to the TSBD and behind (i.e., in the direction of the railway yard / parking lot) the car I've been calling "Inspector Sawyers' Car"?

Yes, or no?

-- Tom

  "Regardless"? You have absolutely no idea what car is parked where and you deem this "regardless"?  This is why your opinion(s) with respect to the "getaway" car are meaningless. You are completely lost.
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