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Yes, the consensus, as seen in a credible recorded witness such as Bowers, is that the last two shots were in rapid succession.

As the TSBD sniper (I suspect it was LHO) was armed with a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle, that is one reason that the LNT is implausible.

There are other reasons, such the scent of gunsmoke in GK area in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA, Sam Holland's account with visible gunsmoke in the GK, and Gov. JBC's testimony that he was struck by a separate shot from the one that struck JFK, testimony with which his wife concurred.

I have never been able to make head-nor-tails out of the acoustic evidence.

However, Blakey of the HSCA said the acoustics evidence was only one factor in their estimation that there was a probability of a JFKAC, and of a gunshot from the GK.

We disagree on the extent of the JFKAC, and that is fine. I suspect small conspiracy of anti- or pro-Castro Cubans who worked with or manipulated LHO. Maybe just two other people.

But that's just my IMHO. Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

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The rod is not going to touch the chalk mark in any view unless you want to skewer the agent representing JFK. I don't know why you have a problem with what Specter did.

The rod being above the chalk mark in the left view makes no sense to me. It does not fit with the sworn testimony of Shaneyfelt. It make no sense to raise it above the chalk mark in order to represent the correct lateral angle of the path of the bullet through Kennedy. That's why I asked John Mytton if it could be a photographic perspective issue that we're dealing with here.
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The rod does not touch the chalk mark in the right side view. It is off to the right of it. It makes no sense at all to me to raise the rod above the level of the chalk mark in order to get the correct lateral path.

The rod is not going to touch the chalk mark in any view unless you want to skewer the agent representing JFK. I don't know why you have a problem with what Specter did.
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How else would he do it? If he moved it to the side of the chalk mark, he would be changing the diagonal of the shot substantially. The only way to show the true bullet path would be to skewer the agent in JFK's place. By placing the rod above and slightly right of the chalk mark, he could approximate the diagonal of the bullet path.

The left and right views show the plausibility of the SBT without duplicating it exactly. They would have had to use dummies and run the rod through the one representing JFK to get an exact trajectory. I think what they did was sufficient to show the bullet path.

The rod does not touch the chalk mark in the right side view. It is off to the right of it. It makes no sense at all to me to raise the rod above the level of the chalk mark in order to get the correct lateral path.
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Why would Specter need to put the rod above the chalk mark in order to demonstrate the correct right to left diagonal of the bullet path?

How else would he do it? If he moved it to the side of the chalk mark, he would be changing the diagonal of the shot substantially. The only way to show the true bullet path would be to skewer the agent in JFK's place. By placing the rod above and slightly right of the chalk mark, he could approximate the diagonal of the bullet path.

The left and right views show the plausibility of the SBT without duplicating it exactly. They would have had to use dummies and run the rod through the one representing JFK to get an exact trajectory. I think what they did was sufficient to show the bullet path.
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This is not hard to figure out. Specter could either put the rod above the chalk mark in which case the right to left diagonal of the bullet path would be correct but the downward angle to steep, or he could put the rod to the right of the chalk mark in which cast the downward angle would be correct but the right to left diagonal would be too severe. It's clear from the left hand view he had the rod above the chalk mark. We can't see the chalk mark in the right hand view but it appears to be at the level of the chalk mark and to the right of it.

Why would Specter need to put the rod above the chalk mark in order to demonstrate the correct right to left diagonal of the bullet path?
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Yeah, Boswell's dot on the facesheet is too low, for sure. His correction is actually too high. But my focus here is on why both Kelley and Shaneyfelt described the chalk mark as being where the wound was but the rod in the left view appears to be somewhat above that chalk mark. Shaneyfelt testified that the rod entered at that chalk mark.

This is not hard to figure out. Specter could either put the rod above the chalk mark in which case the right to left diagonal of the bullet path would be correct but the downward angle to steep, or he could put the rod to the right of the chalk mark in which cast the downward angle would be correct but the right to left diagonal would be too severe. It's clear from the left hand view he had the rod above the chalk mark. We can't see the chalk mark in the right hand view but it appears to be at the level of the chalk mark and to the right of it.
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Let me tell you a little about Nickerson: In my thread on why the back-of-head bullet fragments destroy the lone-gunman theory, he made the astonishing and hilarious claim that the 6.5 mm object and the 7 x 2 mm fragment are the same object, even though both objects can be plainly seen on the AP x-ray, even though they have different dimensions and shapes, and even though they are located at opposite ends of the skull. At first I thought he had misspoken, but he soon made it clear that he was actually making this argument. When I pointed out that both objects are clearly visible on the AP x-ray, that they are located at opposite ends of the skull, and that they look nothing like each other, he still refused to admit his blunder. Why? Because he knows that the 6.5 mm object is fatal to the lone-gunman theory.

Humes removed the "6.5 mm object". It was the 7 x 2 mm fragment that was "somewhat behind the President's eye" and "in the brain tissue". Humes would later view the enhanced AP X-Ray and , after some difficulty, identify that 6.5 mm object as being the 7 x 2 mm fragment.  Edward Reed and Jerrol Custer identified it without hesitation.

Gunn: Okay. Can you go back and look at it once again, from the left on the screen to the right on the body? There is a semi-circular white dot there. Do you see that?
Reed: Yes. I do.
Gunn: Do you recall seeing that on the night of the autopsy?
Reed: Yes. I did.
Gunn: What was your understanding of what that Was?
Reed: That is a metallic fragment from the bullet.
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Gunn: Can you identify that as an autopsy X-Ray that you took on the night of November 22nd/23rd 1963?
Custer: Yes, sir. Correct.
Gunn: HOW can you identify that as being one that you took?
Custer: Bullet fragment, right orbital ridge.
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Gunn: Earlier you pointed to what I’m going to call the half-circle that appears to be at the lightest part of the film, and you referred to that as a bullet fragment; is that right?
Custer: Yes, sir.
Gunn: Where was that bullet fragment located? Let me withdraw that question, and ask another question. Do you know where the bullet fragment located on the body?
Custer: Right orbital ridge, superior.

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And there's this from Joseph N Riley, Ph.D.:

"the location in terms of distance from vertex of the round fragment corresponds exactly with a bullet fragment located at the front of the skull at the "height" of the upper part of the frontal sinus. This corresponds, in the frontal x-ray, to the circular fragment located at the level of the right supraorbital ridge. Using an optical micrometer, the cross-sectional diameter of these two fragments is identical. (In the author's measurements, both fragments were measured to be 7mm in diameter; the Panel, using better quality material, measured the circular fragment as 6.5mm in diameter and Is almost certainly more accurate.) There can be no doubt that the large circular fragment represents a bullet fragment embedded in the right supraorbital ridge. In non-technical language, this corresponds to the bone behind the right eyebrow.
The sole rationale for this contention by the Panel is that a sharp radiopaque image usually represents an object close to the x-ray film. For example, when Humes met with the Panel, the following exchange occurred (HSCA 7:251):

DR. PETTY. Now, may I ask you one other question on this X-ray, Dr. Humes.
Here is a view taken, I assume, with the radiation point above the face and the film behind the back of the head.
DR. HUMES. Not being a radiologist, I presume that.
DR. PETTY. If that's true, then the least distorted and least fuzzy portion of the radiopaque materials would be closest to the film, and we would assume then that this peculiar semilunar object with the sharp edges would be close to the film and therefore represent the piece that was seen In the lateral view —
DR. HUMES. Up by the eyebrow.
DR. PETTY. No. Up by the — in the back of the skull.

The anatomical evidence is unequivocal; however, for the sake of completeness, it may be pointed out that the clarity of a radiographic image, assuming sufficient beam intensity, depends upon the coherence ("sharpness") of the radiopaque image on the photographic emulsion. Physical factors that determine coherence include radiopaqueness (100% for a metal fragment), sharpness of the edge (minimizing beam scatter), and location relative to the radiation beam (minimizing defraction). In general, distance will correlate with clarity (the greater the distance to the emulsion, the greater the displacement due to scatter) but it is not causal. A bullet fragment in cross-section and located near the center of the radiation beam would be expected to produce an image such as that observed in the frontal x-ray. The essential points, however, are: (1) It is anatomically impossible that the "high" fragment is the circular fragment in the frontal x-ray and (2) The round fragment correlates exactly in size and location to the fragment in the lateral x-ray immediately superior to the frontal sinus.
There is a major bullet fragment embedded in the right supraorbital ridge. The evidence is unequivocal and, without qualification, the Panel is in error in equating the round fragment in the frontal x-ray with the "high" fragment in the lateral x-ray."
-- Joseph N Riley, Ph.D.  - "Respected neurologist who specialized in neuroanatomy and experimental neuropathology. His neurological research was published in several peer-reviewed scientific journals, including the Journal of Comparative Neurology, Cell and Tissue Research, and Brain Research, and his research was cited by many other neuroscientists. He taught neuroscience at the University of Florida, the University of California, and the State University of New York."

https://archive.org/details/nsia-RileyJosephN/nsia-RileyJosephN/Riley%20Joseph%20N%2005/page/n7/mode/2up?view=theater

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Post the enhanced AP X-Ray with an arrow pointing to the 7 x 2 mm fragment in it. And while you're at it, point an arrow at the fragment that my red arrow is pointed at in the lateral view below.

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As we know, Boswell's autopsy face sheet placed the base of the neck wound way too low and he corrected it for the HSCA and later explained this discrepancy in his ARRB Deposition, so based on the original JFK face sheet along with the hole in the unbunched jacket, is where the erroneously positioned chalk mark ended up.
 

https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md159/html/md159_0001a.htm

Q. Dr. Boswell, I'd like to show you Exhibit No. 22, page 2800, and draw your attention to one portion of that article that relates to what we're talking about now. If you look over in the third column on the right, the first full paragraph, if you could read that to yourself, please.

As I examine the photographs, the President's clothing, and other records, it appears to me as a lay person that the marking that you have made on the diagram on the right seems roughly to correspond to the other records; but it also seems as if you're suggesting that the diagram is incorrect.

A. Right.

Q. Is that right?

A. Yes. When we saw the clothing, we realized that where I had drawn this was--if you looked at the back of the coat, it was in the exact same place. But the coat had been--was up like this. He was waving, and this was all scrunched up like this. And the bullet went through the coat way below where this would be on his body, because it was really at the base of his neck. And the way I know this best is my memory of the fact that-- see, we probed this hole which was in his neck with all sorts of probes and everything, and it was such a small hole, basically, and the muscles were so big and strong and had closed the hole and you couldn't get a finger or a probe through it.
But when we opened the chest and we got at--the lung extends up under the clavicle and high just beneath the neck here, and the bullet had not pierced through into the lung cavity but had caused hemorrhage just outside the pleura. And so if I can move this up to here--it's shown better on the front, actually. The wound came through and downward just above the thoracic cavity and out at about the thyroid cartilage. So if you put a probe in this and got it back through like this, that would come out right at the base of the neck.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/boswella.htm

JohnM

Yeah, Boswell's dot on the facesheet is too low, for sure. His correction is actually too high. But my focus here is on why both Kelley and Shaneyfelt described the chalk mark as being where the wound was but the rod in the left view appears to be somewhat above that chalk mark. Shaneyfelt testified that the rod entered at that chalk mark.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Bell Film Gifs
« Last post by Tommy Shanks on Yesterday at 09:57:09 PM »
Poppycock!

  The Bronson film is too poor quality to make any possible distinction of ANYTHING McIntire or Hickey are doing when the film is blown up or otherwise enhanced, plus the film ends too abruptly after the fatal shotyto capture any such things.

Don't waste your time on this guy, Steve. He has been peddling the laughable "Hickey did it" crap on multiple forums and newsgroups for the past many years.
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