JFK Assassination Forum

   12:34 PM - The above showing Motorcycle Officer Haygood is IMPOSSIBLE. Haygood and Officer Harkness could not be filmed together at 12:34. Without question impossible. This alleged motorcycle officer is an impostor. (1) Who is he? (2) Where is his motorcycle? (3) What is he holding? (4) Where is he headed?

According to Detective Buddy Walters, there were a number of officers in that particular area at that time. Why did you identify the two officers as Harkness and Haygood?

Mr. WALTHERS. And at that time I heard the shots as well as everybody else, but as we got over this fence, and a lot of officers and people were just rummaging through the train yards back in this parking area.
Mr. LIEBELER. In the parking area down there? West of the Texas School Book Depository Building between the Texas School Book Depository and the railroad tracks?
Mr. WALTHERS. Yes; and the discussion came up among several of the officers, "Were there any shots fired?" And I said, "Well, they sounded like rifle shots to me." At the time no one knew---in our crowd they were sure the shots had been fired though because of the reports---we heard the noise, and I left then and went back up here and came back onto the street.

 

And you're an impostor of someone who actually knows how to properly analyze films and photos.

  Why aren't you jumping all over that horrible "analyzing" of Willis 21/Prayer Man  in the thread above?  Why aren't you there? Go do your Chef Tony with the Ginsu Knives routine over there. It's not hard to do over there if you have a broad based JFK Assassination foundation. I just blew that "analysis" up. But maybe needing a broad based JFK Assassination Foundation immediately cancels you out? Or is it simply your suffering from SDS? 

ME: What were the specific conclusions of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence regarding whether or not Russia had interfered in the 2016 election?

GROK: The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), in its bipartisan five-volume report on Russian Active Measures Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election (released across 2019–2020, with the final Volume 5 on August 18, 2020), reached the following specific conclusions regarding Russian interference:

Russia conducted an aggressive, multifaceted influence operation aimed at the 2016 presidential election. The Committee explicitly found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi-faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

Newsflash: The Soviets/Russians have been meddling in our elections for as long as anyone can remember and we have meddled in theirs. There isn't an iota of evidence that any of these efforts has affected the outcome of a single election. Democrats don't want to admit one of the reasons Trump beat Hillary and Kamala is because the Democrats nominated losers. Hillary is one of the worst candidates in recent memory. From the time she first sought elective office, her poll numbers have always peaked at the start of her campaign and then tumbled before the votes were cast. That was true of her run for the Senate which she won anyway. That was true in 2008 when despite having the Democrat establishment on her side, she still managed to lose the nomination to a relative newcomer by the name of Barack Obama. She would have repeated that feat in 2016 if the Democrat establishment hadn't put their thumb on the scale through the use of unelected superdelegates who ensured it would be the party establishment that would choose the nominee, not the primary voters. Otherwise Bernie Sanders would likely have won the nomination. Once handed the nomination, she managed to lose a general election almost every pundit didn't think was possible.

Kamala might have been even worse. In 2020, she was polling 4th in her home state when she dropped out of the race before the first primary or caucus. Still Sleepy Joe Biden was told to pick her as his running mate in what was obviously a DEI hire. The plan was for Joe to get elected masquerading as a moderate, then Joe was supposed to step aside, either midway through his term but at the latest, before the 2024 primary season. Joe screwed them over when he refused to step aside as he had promised. Knowing they couldn't hide Biden's severe mental decline any longer, the Democrat establishment sabotaged Joe by taking the unprecedented step of scheduling the first debate a month before the conventions knowing it was likely Joe would have a disastrous debate which would give them justification to remove him from the ticket. It worked. The Democrats took the unprecedented, undemocratic step of rejecting the person who won all the primaries and arbitrarily chose Kamala Harris to be their nominee. Over the next 107 days, Kamala made a bonfire out of $1.5 billion and turned a 3% lead in the average of the polls into a 2% defeat in the election, losing every single swing state in the process.

And of course, rather than accept any accountability for their poor choice of candidates, the party chose to blame Russian influence for their own failures. They even went so far as to burn their own post-mortem report which would have disclosed their incompetence. The ultimate irony is that this is the party that claims they are fighting for democracy. Democrats claim to love democracy until democracy kicks their asses which it frequently does. Then they do everything in their power to delegitimize the choice of the voters.

He is an impostor.

And you're an impostor of someone who actually knows how to properly analyze films and photos.

As for the Senate Intelligence Committee, you were deliberately non-specific on their findings so I cannot comment.

ME: What were the specific conclusions of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence regarding whether or not Russia had interfered in the 2016 election?

GROK: The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), in its bipartisan five-volume report on Russian Active Measures Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election (released across 2019–2020, with the final Volume 5 on August 18, 2020), reached the following specific conclusions regarding Russian interference:

Russia conducted an aggressive, multifaceted influence operation aimed at the 2016 presidential election. The Committee explicitly found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi-faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

This effort included cyber intrusions (such as the hacks of the Democratic National Committee and subsequent leaks of stolen material damaging to Hillary Clinton), social media disinformation and troll campaigns (e.g., via the Internet Research Agency), and other active measures. The report affirmed that Russian President Vladimir Putin approved and directed aspects of the campaign.

The Committee reviewed and endorsed the core judgments of the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) on Russian interference, concluding that the ICA was a sound intelligence product supported by all-source intelligence and proper analytic tradecraft. It described Russian activities as a significant escalation compared to prior operations, with the goal of undermining the U.S. democratic process and favoring then-candidate Donald Trump over Clinton.

The report detailed how Russia targeted U.S. election infrastructure (scanning and probing voter registration and related systems in all 50 states) and used social media to sow discord and amplify divisive issues.

On the question of coordination or "collusion":

The Committee found no evidence that Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to interfere in the election. Then-Acting Chairman Marco Rubio (R-FL) stated: "We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia to meddle in our elections."

However, the report identified numerous contacts between Trump campaign associates and Russian-linked individuals, describing some as posing counterintelligence threats or vulnerabilities. For example:

Paul Manafort (campaign chairman) was deemed to have represented a "grave counterintelligence threat" due to his sharing of internal polling data with Konstantin Kilimnik, whom the Committee assessed as tied to Russian intelligence.

The campaign had repeated contacts with Russian operatives, and some Trump associates (e.g., George Papadopoulos) were seen as potential vectors for Russian influence, even if not witting participants.

The investigation was bipartisan, involved over 200 interviews and more than one million pages of documents, and was praised by members of both parties for its thoroughness and lack of partisan division on the core interference findings (though interpretations of contacts varied). Volumes 1–4 addressed specific aspects like election security, social media, and the ICA review, while Volume 5 focused on counterintelligence threats.

These conclusions aligned with the broader U.S. intelligence community's assessment while providing additional detail on campaign contacts without establishing criminal conspiracy or coordination. The full redacted reports are available on the Senate Intelligence Committee's website.

ME: Did the Committee conclude that the Intelligence agencies "got it right"?

GROK: Yes, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) explicitly concluded that the U.S. Intelligence Community (IC) "got it right" on its core assessment of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

This is detailed most directly in Volume 4 of the Committee's bipartisan report (Review of the Intelligence Community Assessment), released in April 2020, which focused on the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) titled "Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent U.S. Elections.

"Key Conclusions from the SSCI:

The Committee found that the ICA is a sound intelligence product that met President Obama's tasking. It presented a "coherent and well-constructed intelligence basis" for the conclusion that Russia engaged in an aggressive effort to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.

All analytic lines in the ICA were supported by all-source intelligence, and the assessment reflected strong tradecraft, sound analytical reasoning, and proper justification for the one area of analytic disagreement (differing confidence levels among agencies on whether Putin specifically aspired to help Trump win).

The Committee saw no reason to dispute the ICA's conclusions and stated that subsequent intelligence collection and analysis continued to reinforce them. There was no evidence of political pressure on analysts to reach specific outcomes.

Earlier, in a July 2018 unclassified summary of its initial findings on the ICA, the Committee (then under Chairman Richard Burr, R-NC, and Vice Chairman Mark Warner, D-VA) stated: "The Committee has spent the last 16 months reviewing the sources, tradecraft and analytic work underpinning the Intelligence Community Assessment and sees no reason to dispute the conclusions." It reaffirmed that the ICA's judgments—that Putin ordered an influence campaign aimed at harming Hillary Clinton and helping Donald Trump, as part of a broader effort to undermine U.S. democracy—were well-supported.

These findings were bipartisan. Chairman Burr emphasized the strength of the tradecraft, while Vice Chairman Warner noted that the ICA's findings had been "unanimously re-affirmed" by intelligence officials in the Trump administration.

The Committee's overall five-volume report (2019–2020) built on this by detailing Russian active measures (hacking/leaks, social media disinformation via the Internet Research Agency, targeting of election infrastructure, etc.) and concluded that Russia conducted a multifaceted campaign directed or approved at high levels, consistent with the ICA. It described Russian efforts as a "significant escalation" and warned that such interference should be considered "the new normal."

Caveats and nuances: The SSCI did criticize specific IC/FBI handling in places (e.g., the FBI's over-reliance on the Steele dossier in FISA applications and its advocacy to include it in the ICA without full validation). However, these points concerned tradecraft or sourcing issues in limited contexts and did not undermine the ICA's core judgments on Russian interference itself. The Committee explicitly distinguished these from the overall soundness of the assessment on Russia's campaign.

In short, on the central question of whether Russia interfered and with what goals, the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee reviewed the underlying intelligence, sources, and processes in depth (including thousands of pages of documents and interviews with analysts and agency heads) and affirmed that the Intelligence Community's 2017 assessment was fundamentally accurate and professionally produced. The full reports (with some redactions for sources/methods) are publicly available on the Senate Intelligence Committee's website.

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Libertarians are the worst.

Especially pro-Trump Libertarians.