JFK Assassination Forum

Funny to see you guys knee-jerking with this consistently changing alleged "shadows" stuff. What is this? Take #4? And this "process" previously crashed-and-burned with the claimed "Wide Open" Huge Gates when Officer Harkness and Euins passed by them on the Martin Film. What you seriously need is a good copy of the Wiegman film. There's no question the Wiegman Film car is on the TSBD side of the Elm St Ext. Right in front of the Corvair. And this is further validated by the National Geographic snippet showing the TSBD side of the Elm St Ext.  But go ahead and roll out the alleged "shadows" with the Lego Cars and the Lego Figures being  placed out of position. Peer Review is howling at this ongoing 6th grade project.

Dear Royell,

Can you see the shadows cast by the branches and leaves of the oak tree on the 1958 Pontiac Bonneville in the Hughes clip?

Good!

Can you see roughly the same pattern of shadows (different due to a change in angle and a change in time, but still recognizable) on something close to the "island" between "Fedora Man" and "Purse Lady" around the 1:47 mark in the Wiegman film and in James' montage?

Good!

Isn't it logical to conclude that the object that those shadows are being cast upon is your 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Getaway Car"?

-- Tom

  Funny to see you guys knee-jerking with this consistently changing alleged "shadows" stuff. What is this? Take #4? And this "process" previously crashed-and-burned with the claimed "Wide Open" Huge Gates when Officer Harkness and Euins passed by them on  the Martin Film. What you seriously need is a good copy of the Wiegman film. There's no question the Wiegman Film car is on the TSBD side of the Elm St Ext. Right in front of the Corvair. And this is further validated by the National Geographic snippet showing the TSBD side of the Elm St Ext.  But go ahead and roll out the alleged "shadows" with the Lego Cars and the Lego Figures being  placed out of position. Peer Review is howling at this ongoing 6th grade project.

Bill,

I like the part where you point out that fibers matching the shirt Oswald was arrested in were found in the jacket discovered under the car at the gas station, the fact that Earlene Roberts said Oswald zipped up his "short coat" when he left -- i.e., his brownish-red (or reddish-brown?) button-up long-sleeved shirt couldn't have been confused with his zip-up jacket or vice-versa -- and the fact that it makes perfect sense that Oswald, having killed Tippit a couple of minutes earlier, would jettison his jacket at or behind the gas station in an attempt to alter his appearance.

I also like the fact that witnesses' conflicting descriptions of the direction Oswald was walking before Tippit stopped him can be explained by the following scenario:

He had a still-valid bus transfer and he hoped to catch a bus to the VA Hospital (and from there a Greyhound bus to Laredo) and therefore he walked past 10th and Patton towards the bus stop on Marsalis until he came around a curve in the road and saw a County Police car parked a block away, so he turned around and started walking back towards 10th and Patton for his unexpected rendezvous with Officer Tippit.

-- Tom

Thanks Tom.

When it comes to where Oswald was heading after leaving the rooming house, all we can do is speculate.  May as well try.
But, when we do, we must speculate based on what we know; "educated speculation", if you will.

After watching a police officer be murdered in broad daylight right in front of you, would you "simply carry on walking"

You are missing the point.

At least a minute or so passed between Tippit passing the 10th and Patton crossing (where Markham stopped walking to let him pass by) and being shot.
Now, why would Markham stay there for at least a minute after Tippit's car had passed, when she needed to get to the bus stop.

So, the question now becomes, what was Markham doing standing around at the crossing to watch Tippit being killed if she had to catch her bus to work? Wouldn't one expect that she would simply carry on walking in order to get to the bus stop on time?

After watching a police officer be murdered in broad daylight right in front of you, would you "simply carry on walking"