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So, the Rooskies have been waging a propaganda effort for 50+ years and now you want to blame it on Trump. Unbelievable.

Looking at Trump in the most charitable light, he's just one of many "useful idiots" who have, since late 1961 (when J. Edgar Hoover accepted Kremlin-loyal triple agent GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov as an informant at the Bureau's NYC field office), benefited the mafia formerly known as the KGB.

It's a pity that you (and so many other Americans) are ignorant about the KGB*, and don't know that in 1959 the Kremlin, having realized that the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, developed the "Shelepin Plan" which aimed to get us to defeat ourselves by waging Sun Tzu-like disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies. It's a pity that you don't know that General Oleg Gribanov, not to be outdone by the FCD, set up an analog unit, Department 14, in his Second Chief Directorate and, after he had trapped Oleg Penkovsky "like a bear in its den" in Moscow in such a way that wouldn't reveal the traitor in the CIA or British Intelligence who had betrayed him in April 1961, sent the aforementioned Polyakov (who later "flipped" to the CIA) to the FBI's field office to "volunteer" to spy for it at the U.N., and two months later sent KGB Major Aleksei Kulak (Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA) to the same field office to do the same thing. Six months after KGB Major Anatoly Golitsyn defected to the U.S. from Helsinki on 15 December 1961, Gribanov sent putative KGB staff officer Yuri Nosenko to the CIA in Geneva to discredit what Golitsyn was telling James Angleton about KGB penetrations of the CIA, the FBI, and the intelligence services of NATO countries.

It's a pity that you don't realize that this is just "the tip of the iceberg," that, for example, Oliver Stone's "JFK" was the result of a 1967 KGB "active measures" operation, and that your boy, Trump, is wittingly or unwittingly helping the KGB* bring the goals of the aforementioned Shelepin Plan -- getting us to defeat ourselves -- to fruition.

*Today's SVR and FSB
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Do you know of Tony Marsh? He was a very prolific poster on John McAdams forum. He seemed to be in failing health not long before John passed away so I don't know if he is still with us. He could be very obnoxious and he had many screwy ideas but he had as good a command of the facts as anyone I've encountered in 35 years of online discussions with JFKA conspiracy hobbyists. I actually learned some of the minute facts that I would otherwise have been unaware of had I not dueled with him online. His problem was that he had all that knowledge but he simply could not apply it in anything resembling a logical thought process. Like so many conspiracy hobbyists, he let his desired conclusions prevent him from objectively analyzing all that knowledge he had accumulated.

I don't know Josiah Thompson, (Tink as Tony referred to him) but he sounds like a much less obnoxious version of Tony. He may be very well versed on the facts of the JFKA but his analysis of those facts is FUBAR. An informed opinion is not necessarily a logical one.

I do remember Tony from old forums and newsgroups but I am pretty sure he passed away at some point in the last five years. Agreed: re: informed vs. logical opinion. I just like Thompson's style as relative to almost every other "well known" conspiracy researcher/author. Thankfully he doesn't trade in garbage like Oswald body doubles and altered autopsy x-rays.
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John, agreed. I just meant that Thompson has always kept himself above the fray of the usual moronic conspiracy theorist battles.. I think he abandoned the subject for decades partially for that reason.

Do you know of Tony Marsh? He was a very prolific poster on John McAdams forum. He seemed to be in failing health not long before John passed away so I don't know if he is still with us. He could be very obnoxious and he had many screwy ideas but he had as good a command of the facts as anyone I've encountered in 35 years of online discussions with JFKA conspiracy hobbyists. I actually learned some of the minute facts that I would otherwise have been unaware of had I not dueled with him online. His problem was that he had all that knowledge but he simply could not apply it in anything resembling a logical thought process. Like so many conspiracy hobbyists, he let his desired conclusions prevent him from objectively analyzing all that knowledge he had accumulated.

I don't know Josiah Thompson, (Tink as Tony referred to him) but he sounds like a much less obnoxious version of Tony. He may be very well versed on the facts of the JFKA but his analysis of those facts is FUBAR. An informed opinion is not necessarily a logical one.
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We do not see any automobile activity that would produce "Screeching tires", or "Jamming brakes" on any of the JFK Assassination Films. This includes the Current Zapruder Film and the Nix Film (copy).

So what that we don't "see" these things? Are you incapable of considering the possibility that Witt was embellishing? Or that he simply misremembered? My guess is that you are incapable of considering that, since instead you leap to every ridiculous conspiratorial "explanation."
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JFK Assassination Aftermath - Dark Complected Man - Gerda Dunckel Analysis



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Well actually, Umbrella Man has never been a high priority to me because having a guy with an Umbrella making an obvious political statement makes far more sense than using the umbrella as a signal or heaven help us a concealed blow dart, but whatever.
Anyway, Witt's facial structure and body type 15 years later is still an extremely close match for Umbrella Man and the fact that he remembers most of what happened without a pedantic level of detail, in my opinion paints a picture of a normal bloke trying his best to remember a tiny slice of time from a decade and a half ago. Consider if Witt was some JFK fanatic who knew every detail with pinpoint accuracy then that all by itself would be powerful evidence of an impostor.
It reminds me of the eyewitnesses at the assassination, they all viewed an unexpected event once whereas the modern researcher has a ton of points of view from films and photos which they have studied over and over with microscopic detail but when some eyewitness makes some sort of a relatively insignificant error they are dragged over the coals for it? Go figure?

Getting back to the point of this post, when I grabbed the cropped image, I quickly checked the Bronson 8mm film and forgot that Bronson was also taking photographs and snapped the following photo a half second before the Limo reached Witt(my bad), before Bronson a literal second later swapped back to his movie camera.



JohnM

               John - Thanks for going the extra mile with your Bronson JFK Assassination research work. I knew you would. It's a hallmark to be proud of.
   With respect to the Witt HSCA Testimony, the part of his testimony that always jumps out at me is where he describes, "Screeching tires" and "Jamming Brakes". I have Never read or heard a single JFK Assassination eyewitness describe these tire/brake sounds during/after shots being fired. Though Witt's description does match the ASAIC Kellerman's WC testimony of the JFK Limo suddenly accelerating to the point of, "jumping out of the god damn street". We do not see any automobile activity that would produce "Screeching tires", or "Jamming brakes" on any of the JFK Assassination Films. This includes the Current Zapruder Film and the Nix Film (copy).
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          You owe Thompson your respect solely based on his decades long JFK Assassination research work. But then again, what do you know about JFK Assassination Research to begin with?

He knows a heck of a lot more than you do!
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Given that his most notable work, Six Seconds in Dallas, was a total cluster @#$%, I'm not too interested in anything else he has to say about the JFKA.

If Six Seconds in Dallas can be credited with anything, it cemented in the public's mind that the WC conclude that the shooting took place in 6 seconds which also necessitated a second shot miss. Neither of those things were conclusions of the WC. Even Case Closed author Gerald Posner fell for that myth. In promoting his own book, he acted as if he was setting the record straight by refuting a conclusion of the WC which they never made.

          You owe Thompson your respect solely based on his decades long JFK Assassination research work. But then again, what do you know about JFK Assassination Research to begin with?
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That might be true as compared to most JFKA conspiracy theorists but that just makes him the one-eyed man in the land of the blind.

John, agreed. I just meant that Thompson has always kept himself above the fray of the usual moronic conspiracy theorist battles.. I think he abandoned the subject for decades partially for that reason.
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One might disagree with Professor Thompson's conclusions and reliance on the Dictabelt evidence (I know I do) but he is amongst the most reasonable, articulate, intelligent and well-researched critics of all time. In this particular case, he has long since shown that Louis Witt was indeed the Umbrella Man in Dealey Plaza.

That might be true as compared to most JFKA conspiracy theorists but that just makes him the one-eyed man in the land of the blind.
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