JFK Assassination Forum

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Bronson GIF

Showing the Willis family standing next to the white column.

    I have heard it said that Altgens is on the Extreme (R) shaking hands with a cop. That's his "goody bag" draped over his shoulder.

   ROBIN & DUNCAN - Thanks for your great work/postings. It seriously raises the bar and the discussion on this forum.

   And here on the (R) is Officer Haygood at his motorcycle near the Triple Underpass at the 12:35 time period. Thanks to my good friend "The Professor" for helping to prove that Todd was wrong once again.

Hackerott gives us "an estimation of the time as 12:36." You try to turn that into "12:35." Your attempt at misleading everyone aside, there is nothing in Hackerott's analysis that  contradicts what I've been saying.

This is the level you're down to.

TG--

Brian Roselle's positing a bullet fragment splitting off from JFK's skull and then striking the curb near Tague's feet, but with enough force to send concrete upwards across Tague's face and leave a cut...

Then we have the additional problem that the WC and HSCA say the bullet entered the lower portion of JFK's rear skull, and then exited the right upper portion(that's why there are those large missing skull fragment in the JFK skull x-rays).

In fact, the whole "jet effect" argument is that the bullet and matter were violently ejected to JFK's right, propelling his head to hisleft.

But Tague was way to the left of JFK.

Like JBC's wrist wound, the Tague shot seems to defy explanation. I don't have an answer, and I have never read an answer that holds water.

Like the heavy smell of gunsmoke in DP-GK area in the immediate aftermath of the JFK. The odd man flashing Secret Service credentials on the GK area, to DPD Joe Smith and Sheriff Weitzman. The numerous witnesses who report rapid gunshots on 11.22, too rapid to have been issued by a single-shot-per bolt-action rifle.

Well, the curtain is closing on the JFKA, the decades have gone by. The topic is finally fading.

I easily concede that there are crackpot CT's galore, each worse than the next.

But a lone single-shot bolt action rifle on 11.22?

I am skeptical.

The problem is there is simply no definitive proof of when the first shot was fired. For years I have believed that the first shot was fired at or about Z151 because of the badly blurred frame Z158. That was based on the 7 frame lag time between the shot fired at or about Z311 and the blurring at Z318. That also works for the second shot fired at Z220 with a badly blurred Z227. Recently in another thread, another poster showed that there was also blurring and Z155 which shows a camera jump from Z154-155. There was a similar jump from Z226-227 and from Z317-318. This has caused me to reconsider my belief the first shot was fired at Z151. It seems to me now that the jump/blurring at Z154-155 is more indicative of the first shot fired at Z148. I am always willing to reconsider previously held beliefs when confronted by evidence the calls into question those beliefs. Moving the first shot from 151 to 148 is a small but significant adjustment.

If my previous conclusion was wrong, and it seems to me likely it was, I think I know why I erred. Dale Myers believed JBC's head turn at Z164 was an immediate reaction to a shot at Z160. It would have taken about 2 frames for the sound of that shot to reach JBC's ears which leaves only 2 frames, roughly 1/9 of a second for JBC to react. That seems too fast to me. I knew about the blurring that occurs when a cameraman holding a motion picture camera hears a loud gun shot, so I started working backward from Z164 and found a blurred frame at Z158 and that became the basis for my theory of a Z151 shot 7 frames earlier. My mistake was in not working farther backward to see if there was a better match. It now appears to me that Z155 is more likely the instant Zapruder heard the first shot causing the jump/blurring at that frame. That puts the first shot being fired at Z148.

I have always made the disclaimer that blur analysis is not 100% conclusive because other things could cause Zapruder to jiggle his camera but to me, the best evidence is the first shot was fired at Z148. If somebody thinks they have more compelling evidence of that first shot at another time, I am more than willing to consider it.