JFK Assassination Forum

jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Marcus%20Ray%20Folders/Folder%2005/Page%20031.pdf

Umm, Dr. Charles Gregory, the surgeon who operated on Connally's wrist, said that the shattering of the distal radius bone and the severing of part of the radial nerve would cause immediate and complete loss of function in the hand.---MTG

This is my recollection of what Gregory said also. Can you find reference to this in the WC?

I have reasonable doubts that Gov. JBC held onto his hat after being shot through the wrist.

Ergo, a reasonable deduction is JBC had not yet been shot by Z-275.

So this a curious dilemma if the SBT Z224 shot lines up with the right wrist and left thigh. How was JBC sitting on the jump seat such that the Z224 SBT shot goes thru his right wrist and then into his left thigh without going thru the hat. There’s only one position and it’s an odd one in which JBC is sitting half off the left side of the jump seat with both his legs rotated right about 45 degree just as his upper torso/ shoulder line appears to be. His right hand would have to be holding his hat upside down  with the well of the hat over the left side of his left leg.

Several problems:

1. His right arm would have to be diagonally across his chest to hold the hat over the left side of his left leg. That would be rather an uncomfortable position to maintain.

2. There does not appear to be any indication of JBC right arm upper arm being diagonally across his chest in the Z film at Z222-z225

3. Turning both his legs 45 degrees right makes sense enough but why would JBC shift his buttocks half way off the left side of the jump seat?

4. Holding  the expensive Stetson  hat upside down off the left side of the left leg would be smushing the hat between the leg and the back side of the front seat. This seems a disrespectful way to hold a prized iconic hat that JBC often wore in public.

A more comfortable position that has both legs together turned rightward and the buttocks remaining fully on the seat, would have JBC holding the hat right side up resting atop both his legs. His right arm would be as it’s seen in Z223 which is NOT diagonally across his chest but simply normally by the right side of his body. His right hand is turned resting palm upwards on his legs. In this way the hat is being more carefully / respectfully  held  to avoid any deformation of the hat.

However if JBC holds the hat right side up atop both his legs, thus having his right hand palm side up, then it’s IMPOSSIBLE that a Z224 bullet could enter his wrist from the top and exit from the palm of his hand. Likewise, the bullet could not have bypassed the upright part of the hat if continuing on into the  inner thigh of the left leg.

The only other position that has  been proposed for JBC is by Andrew Mason. At Z190 JBC has both his legs spread wide apart with his left leg hanging out leftwards while JC attempts to twist himself rightward even MORE than 45 degrees rightward. At Z190 he is only hit in the thigh. The bullet disappears. The wrist wound is cause by some fragment. This theory is rejected by most if not all the LNs on this forum.

Thus is why I put out the question about the probability of  a fragment causing the wrist wound because neither the conventional LN SBT position for JBC nor Andrew’s alternative LN position(s) seem to work for CE 399 having caused the wrist wound.

If not a fragment and not CE 399, then the wrist wound remains a dilemma.

If only the early missed shot theory that was not so full of holes. Exactly how does a theory work again, that lacks having any eyewitnesses in an area full of eyewitnesses standing shoulder to shoulder. It is not like you have any answers.

Do you think eyewitnesses would have seen a missed shot?

The "Wayback Machine" has some pages/content archived.

Yes, and I now wish like heck that I had utilized the good ol' "Wayback Machine" many more times when I was first archiving Education Forum posts and threads at my own website/blog, particularly the posts made by people other than myself since mid-2022, which is when I was allowed to re-join the EF forum after a three-year absence.

Prior to late 2019, the EF forum had no rule on the books saying that a person couldn't copy-and-paste excerpts from EF posts directly into a personal website or blog without first gaining the specific permission from the poster being copied (which is exactly what I've been doing on my site since 2010, and nobody at EF cared a whit about it until 2019; go figure). But then, in Aug. 2019, suddenly a bunch of people at EF got all up in arms about the thing I'd been doing for 9 years, and it all of a sudden became a terrible and devious act, so James R. Gordon put in the new "Must Get Permission" clause.

So when I was permitted to re-join the EF forum in June 2022 (for which, btw, I am still very grateful to the then-EF moderators), I couldn't do any "copying-and-pasting" of other EF members' posts at all (if I wanted to remain an active forum member, that is). Which left me with having to put in a link on my webpages to each post made by the other EF members [example below]. Thankfully, Mr. Gordon didn't make it illegal to merely post a link to EF material.

https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1354.html

And now (as of June 11, 2026), of course, all of those EF links are dead, broken, and worthless, which is going to bother me greatly, because I can't stand broken links on my sites!  But if I had thought ahead a few years, I would have been smart enough to create "Wayback" links for all of those post-2022 discussions. Oy vey. ~sigh~

I just hope that the Education Forum's vast JFKA archive from the past can somehow be retrieved and made available once again. Because there is, indeed, a lot of good discussion and information to be gleaned from that forum's lengthy tenure on the Internet. And it would be a shame for all of it to be wiped out in a heartbeat.

And it would also be sad to have the owner of this webpage (and many others) commit hari-kari due to the fact he's got all of these dead links on his site: 

https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/10/miscellaneous-posts-part-141.html

DVP

I am crying a river.