JFK Assassination Forum

I always chuckle when people refer to the JFKA hobby as an ongoing investigation. Some investigation. I've been at this for 35 years since Oliver Stone's movie came out. While my own body of knowledge has grown exponentially, I can't say the same for the information that is widely available. The conspiracy hobby has been around a lot longer than the 35 years I have been involved. There have been a few bread crumbs that become known that weren't available in 1991 and some advances in technology have shed some new light on the information available, but for the most part, not much has changed. The discussions are pretty much focused on the same things that were being kicked around 35 years ago.

Can somebody tell me what we know now that wasn't known in 1991 that significantly changes the discussion? From my perspective, it's more of the same old crap. For the most part, the CT community is just polishing old turds.

There are crazies in both parties but on the left they are in charge.  In the Republican party, they are in the margins.  Trump says some crazy things but more often than not pursues policies grounded in common sense.  The media fixates on the words and ignores the positive results.  A conflict is being resolved today that they suggested would result in WWIII and genocide.  Are they apologizing?  Nope.  The news is all about the UFC match and the Kennedy Center.   Minoriites and younger people tend to vote for Dems for their own reasons but have been less influenced by the propaganda than the elderly, white academic types who have been completely brainwashed.

I don't think most people appreciate what Donald Trump has done. Leaders don't get credit for the disasters they divert. People don't appreciate what a danger Iran posed. If they had developed a nuclear weapon, they already had the missile technology to reach ever capital in Europe. It would have only been a matter of time before they could reach the east coast and beyond. That would have been an extremely dangerous situation. It wouldn't have been like the Cold War when mutual assured destruction acted as a deterrent to both sides. The Iranians are religious zealots to whom martyrdom is the highest calling. It's the same mindset that caused 19 hijackers to fly airliners into our buildings knowing they would die in the process. I have no doubt Iran would have embraced mutual assured destruction.

I don't understand people who say their development of a nuclear weapon wasn't imminent. I don't know if that is true or not but why the hell would we want to wait until it was imminent before taking drastic action. Had we known the Japanese were planning to strike us at Pearl Harbor, I don't think we would have waiedt until December 6 to take action.

So many people only care that the price of gas has spiked the last several months. If that's the price we had to pay to keep the Iranians from becoming a threat to our homeland, it's money well spent.
If this deal holds, and it's still an if, and the Strait of Hormuz is opened again bringing down prices, I hope the voters will be able to look at the situation objectively.

Yes, Donald Trump is prone to hyperbole but the things he says are usually directionally correct. He can talk like a crazy man because he knows that fires up the base, but he governs with a cool head as he has shown the past few months. A lot of people, including me, were wondering why we didn't just bomb Iran back to the Stone Age He used just enough firepower to get them to bargain in good faith if hey have actually done that. I liked Hegseth's expression, negotiate with bombs. Once Trump started to talk about taking over Kharg Island the Iranians realized he wasn't pussyfooting around.

There are crazies in both parties but on the left they are in charge.  In the Republican party, they are in the margins.  Trump says some crazy things but more often than not pursues policies grounded in common sense.  The media fixates on the words and ignores the positive results.  A conflict is being resolved today that they suggested would result in WWIII and genocide.  Are they apologizing?  Nope.  The news is all about the UFC match and the Kennedy Center.   Minoriites and younger people tend to vote for Dems for their own reasons but have been less influenced by the propaganda than the elderly, white academic types who have been completely brainwashed.

Your boy, Donald "Pert Nipples" Trump, was installed by "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin on 20 January 2017 to tear our country apart and destroy NATO, and he's doing a darned good job.

I realize common sense is no fun at all, but what is the logic here?

We have conspirators who are sophisticated enough to immediately leap into action and alter the Z film – so pretty sophisticated, yes?

How do these sophisticated folks have a conspiracy so clumsy that they need to alter the Z film? If the plan is to sell Oswald as a lone gunman in TSBD6, why do any shots come from anywhere other than a location and trajectory plausibly attributable to TSBD6?

How did they know the shot(s) from the front would even be amenable to alteration? What if the frontal gunman had hit JFK squarely in the nose – what then?

How did they know there wouldn’t be three, six or ten other people filming in Dealey Plaza? How did they know on the evening of 11-22 there weren’t? How did they know their alterations wouldn’t be immediately exposed by a different film that surfaced a week later?

Why wasn't the film immediately confiscated from Zapruder? Instead of an elaborate plot to alter the Z film, why not just say it was destroyed during processing or whatever? Sorry, it’s gone. Why go through this elaborate hoax?

Once again, it seems to me, CTers bog down in minutiae – all the supposed “evidence” of alteration – and simply ignore that …


Does it? If someone thinks it does, take me through how it worked. Take me plausibly through - just plausibly, that's all I ask - why there was a shot from the front, what the contingency plan was “just in case someone captures it on film,” and all the rest. I’ll bet you can’t!

8 ) A premature emphasis on the lone nut scenario excluding other areas of inquiry.

LOL!

Till the cows come home?