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TG-

The preface to JKM's report shows he had a lot of help.

What makes you think JKM was understaffed and overworked?

I never heard of an overworked government employee. JKM likely held a comfortable position, which may be why he held onto it for 14 years, despite having qualifications for all sorts of positions anywhere.

What makes you think JKM, with enormous background and experience on matters CIA, made a basic error on Shaw? In a prominent position in a report submitted to his employer, the CIA? That stretches credulity.

JKM was not writing for Rolling Stone crackpots.

My take is JKM summed up Saw accurately.

The CIA never issued a correction or clarification to JKM's findings, so it appears the CIA stands behind JKM's work.

 

Question:

Do you believe world-travelling businessman Clay Shaw was a patriotic voluntary Domestic Contacts source from 1948 to 1956 who submitted eight reports to that department, or do you think it was just a cover for his "fascistic" activity in Italy?

If the former, why doesn't J. Kenneth mention that?

Hmm?
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TG-

The preface to JKM's report shows he had a lot of help.

What makes you think JFK was understaffed and overworked?

I never heard of an overworked government employee. JKM likely held a comfortable position, which may be why he held onto it for 14 years, despite having qualifications for all sorts of positions anywhere.

What makes you think JKM, with enormous background and experience on matters CIA, made a basic error on Shaw? In a prominent position in a report submitted to his employer, the CIA? That stretches credulity.

JKM was not writing for Rolling Stone crackpots.

My take is JKM summed up Saw accurately.

The CIA never issued a correction or clarification to JKM's findings, so it appears the CIA stands behind JKM's work.

 

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As soon as I figure out how to post a video on here, as I'm having trouble finding a place I can trust to upload them/it into.

I'm going to post a video showing Governor Connally reacting to being struck in the back, causing his shoulders to jerk up and down twice as the bullet pierces his back.  It's an unmistakable involuntary reaction by Connally that occurs at the same time his face shows a noticeable grimace-all before JFK's face emerges from behind the Stemmons sign.

 I'd like to get my thread back on track here, and this should do it.
Just set up your Youtube account and upload. You can get the direct link by “Share” and “Copy link”.  Or you can upload to Google drive and select “Share” “Anyone with the link”.
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AI version:

J. Kenneth McDonald served as the Chief Historian of the Central Intelligence Agency from 1982 to 1996.

During his tenure, he helped establish the CIA Historical Review Program and oversaw declassification, internal research, and the creation of official, in-house histories of sensitive intelligence operations.

Background and Academic Career Education: He earned his doctorate from Oxford University.

Teaching: He taught at George Washington University and held the King Chair of Maritime History at the U.S. Naval War College.

Military: He was a veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps.


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I trust J. Kenneth McDonald's description of Shaw as a "highly paid contract source."

See JKM's credentials above. McDonald was not a leftie or soured socialist or Jew-hater. He had enormous experience in matters CIA, and in fact, worked as the CIA's historian, and wrote those words in an initially classified CIA document.

Fred Litwin does a lot of good work but flubbed it on JKM and Shaw.

J. Kenneth was under-the-gun timewise, and very likely overworked, understaffed, and perhaps even infiltrated by one of Bruce Leonard Solie's or Leonard V. McCoy's protégés, or . . . gasp . . . himself influenced by Comrade Stone's KGB-influenced film to change "highly valued contact source" to "highly paid contract source."

Question:

Do you believe world-travelling businessman Clay Shaw was a voluntary Domestic Contacts source from 1948 to 1956 who submitted eight reports to that "evil, evil" department?

Yes, or no?

If so, why doesn't J. Kenneth mention that?

Hmm?
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MTG---

I think you are in error when explaining LHO's post-JFKA behavior, based upon your assumptions of what he "would have done" if he was a de facto Havana asset.

Perhaps, post LHO just decided to go mute, to dissemble, to give G2/DGI confederates time to escape. We don;t know.

LHO as a devout Marxist and Havana asset strikes me a plausible explanation of LHO motives.

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AI version:

J. Kenneth McDonald served as the Chief Historian of the Central Intelligence Agency from 1982 to 1996.

During his tenure, he helped establish the CIA Historical Review Program and oversaw declassification, internal research, and the creation of official, in-house histories of sensitive intelligence operations.

Background and Academic Career Education: He earned his doctorate from Oxford University.

Teaching: He taught at George Washington University and held the King Chair of Maritime History at the U.S. Naval War College.

Military: He was a veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps.


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I trust J. Kenneth McDonald's description of Shaw as a "highly paid contract source."

See JKM's credentials above. McDonald was not a leftie, or soured socialist or Jew-hater. He had enormous experience in matters CIA, and in fact, worked as the CIA's historian, and wrote those words in an initially classified CIA document.

Fred Litwin does a lot of good work, but flubbed it on JKM and Shaw.



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Yes, you have explained it many times and not once has your explanation made any sense.

As soon as I figure out how to post a video on here, as I'm having trouble finding a place I can trust to upload them/it into.

I'm going to post a video showing Governor Connally reacting to being struck in the back, causing his shoulders to jerk up and down twice as the bullet pierces his back.  It's an unmistakable involuntary reaction by Connally that occurs at the same time his face shows a noticeable grimace-all before JFK's face emerges from behind the Stemmons sign.

 I'd like to get my thread back on track here, and this should do it.
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Garrison met with "Saturday Evening Post" writer James Phelan in Las Vegas on 3/05/67 and told him that Shaw had masterminded a Loeb-and-Leopold-like "homosexual thrill-kill" assassination of JFK.

After he received the "L' Humanite article," Garrison changed his theory against Shaw to "He organized the assassination for the CIA!!!"


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https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-sep-10-mn-30846-story.html
James Phelan; Investigative Reporter, Author - Los Angeles Times
Sep 10,. 1997 · “He was a dying breed,” writer Patricia Lambert, a close friend, said of a man the New York Times once called one of the country’s best investigative reporters
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Shaw was probably a CIA asset, possibly monitoring LHO due to the latter's G2/DGI connections, and his history in Russia.

Was world-travelling businessman Shaw a voluntary Domestic Contacts source from 1948 to 1956? 

Yes, or no?

Please explain to me what a "highly paid contract source is," J. K. McDonald . . . I mean B. Cole.
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This investigation was entirely unrelated to events in the United States or the assassination of John F. Kennedy. It was fortuitous that the CIA front organizations in Italy that emerged from CIA plans to overthrow the Italian government included Centro Mondiale Commerciale and Permindex, of which Clay Shaw was a director in New Orleans.

Jim Garrison was well on the trail of Shaw and his role as a CIA handler of Lee Harvey Oswald before Paese Sera published its series of articles.  When I sent them to Garrison, he had already charged Shaw in relation to the murder of Kennedy. Jim found the Paese Sera series confirmatory and important, but the articles were not admissible as evidence in court.

[...]

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My comments:

Garrison charged Shaw on the same day he arrested him, 1 March 1967.

The "Paese Sera" article was published on 4 March 1967.

Richard Billings wrote in his diary on 16 March 1967 that Garrison had received “a copy of a French newspaper (L’Humanité) article that supposedly mentions Shaw’s work in Italy.”

The "L' Humanite" article had been translated into English for Garrison and was based on the "Paese Sera" article.

Garrison met with "Saturday Evening Post" writer James Phelan in Las Vegas on 3/05/67 and told him that Shaw had masterminded a Loeb-and-Leopold-like "homosexual thrill-kill" assassination of JFK.

Garrison's father-in-law's 1968 Obit was the "Rosetta Stone" in my research and led to this confirmation. Since I came upon it as a last step, it did not influence the
direction of my research, only confirming whatI had already found, spurred by my discovery of that Obit.
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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/69124634/harold-ferdinand-ziegler
Husband of Virginia Moore
Father of Mrs. George Massey and Harold F. Ziegler, Jr., both of Quincy, FL; Mrs. Jim Garrison, New Orleans; Mrs. William Eckert of Yokahama, Japan.
Brother of Mrs. William (Adrienne) Riddick and Mrs. Harry Raworth of New Orleans, and the late Charles, Gordon, and Alfred.

Mrs. Harry Raworth, nee Adele Ziegler, was the mother of the Baldwin brothers, described by Joan Mellen in 2005 as "the CIA people".



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