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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Who was at Parkland?
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 08:54:17 PM »And exactly when did SA Lem Johns arrive at Parkland Hospital? SA Johns claimed he jumped out of the "hard top" LBJ SS Car and then ran down Elm St toward the JFK Limo before the Kill Shot landed. Immediately following the Kill Shot, Johns claimed the JFK motorcade sped off. This left him stranded there in middle of Elm St. Yet, there is Not 1 single image of SA Lem Johns running/standing in Elm St or is there a single Dealey Plaza eyewitness claiming they saw Johns at any point physically on Elm St. The only "people" backing up the Johns claim are his fellow SS Agents that were seated inside the same car that Johns claimed to have jumped out of. The only Dealey Plaza Eyewitness that claims to have ever seen SA Lem Johns was Dave Wiegman. Wiegman said that he saw Johns UP THE KNOLL. And since 11/22/63, the Feds have steadfastly maintained that No Assigned Agents were on the ground inside Dealey Plaza that day. SA Lem Johns was Late arriving to Parkland Hospital. He also was late arriving to AF1 at Love Field. His fellow LBJ SS Agents inside that "hard top" LBJ SS Car were steadily ahead of him. This is because on 11/22/63, SA Johns was never inside that LBJ SS Car as it trailed the LBJ convertible throughout Dallas that day. SA Lem Johns was exactly where he was supposed to be. Inside Dealey Plaza.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Darnell Gifs "Credit: 6th Floor Museum" Jones Collection NBC 5 Archive
« Last post by Tommy Shanks on Today at 07:56:46 PM »It's so fun to ignore Brian Doyle!
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Who was at Parkland?
« Last post by Sean Kneringer on Today at 07:41:58 PM »Mary Gallagher and Pamela Turnure as well.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Greg Burnham Asks, "Does Education Forum Have TDS?"
« Last post by Tommy Shanks on Today at 05:15:53 PM »Why would anybody spend a second on Greg Burnham's baloney? He has been trying to convince people for decades that he saw some imaginary "other" version of the Zapruder film... and he's also a huge advocate for BS artists like Fletcher Prouty. 'Nuff said.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Darnell Gifs "Credit: 6th Floor Museum" Jones Collection NBC 5 Archive
« Last post by Brian Doyle on Today at 05:13:59 PM »Tim: You falsely referred to Carolyn Arnold's witnessing and then you answered it with a reference to Sarah Stanton's file...
Carolyn Arnold was allowed to proof read her March 1964 statement and because of that they were not able to alter the correct 12:25 time she told them...That statement possesses "12:25" in its text and confirms what Carolyn Arnold told Golz...
What you are doing is presenting FBI, who are documented as altering statements and suborning perjury, as the legitimate reference while ignoring the impassioned appeals of the misquoted witnesses themselves who corrected the false doctoring of their statements when allowed to speak freely on their own...
This version was further reinforced by Fritz and Hosty who told of Oswald telling them that he was eating his lunch alone in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination...This is exactly what Stanton witnessed...And it is capped-off and given final confirmation by Buell Frazier who told a radio host recently that an un-named employee told him a partly-eaten cheese sandwich and apple were seen on the 2nd Floor Lunch Room table after the assassination...
Mr Unger is enforcing The Education Forum's censorship and embargo of evidence by displaying the Jones copy but then giving no mention to the fact that it displays a clear image of Sarah Stanton's open-breasted dress neckline on Prayer Man who happens to be Stanton's exact 5 foot 4 height...
A discussion needs to be had on that forum discussing how the Luna Committee needs to obtain the 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy of Darnell and have it digitally scanned to further enhance that neckline...Schnapf is protecting the clique by deliberately avoiding obtaining that copy...
We are here to debate facts and determine correct evidence...We are not here to further the dishonest pursuits of gang researchers...We are not here to maximize the dirty advantage of censorship and banning...The Education Forum lied...They said they would use the Luna Committee to prove Prayer Man one way or the other...When my turn came up to prove myself correct they avoided the evidence and answer with silence...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Brian Doyle: Audio Interview With Witness Sarah Stanton's Granddaughter
« Last post by Brian Doyle on Today at 04:57:02 PM »After having beaten so many internet researchers in debates of evidence me and my material are met with non-participation and ignoring...The JFK internet is basically gangs and packs of researchers who group together in cliques and beat people up while ignoring a cooperative solving of the case...Any and everything that originates from myself, no matter how important, is ignored by this group...These people are not beneath using despicable methods to destroy people who out-argue them...When you beat these people in debates they gang together and employ dirty tactics to get rid of you...
My interview with Wanda and Rosa Daniel was in 2018 and I had intended to get back to Wanda to attempt a video interview...Life took a bad turn for me right after, including the destruction of my mother's house by Hurricane Ian and less favorable opportunities for research...I called Larry Hancock with the intent of getting a spot at one of the Dallas Symposiums in order to introduce Wanda Daniel and her witnessing to the research community in a way that could not be blocked by the cowardly methods that were suppressing it...It isn't the Lone Nutters who are suppressing this important new discovery...It is the Conspiracy Theorists (for lack of a better term) and the Jim DiEugenio cult that is The Education Forum, where that discovery is never mentioned thanks to criminal embargo upon myself by that uncredible research group...
Rosa and her witnessing were important, but after the interview I realized she was a typical latin immigrant who practiced typical obedience to authority and that her witnessing was tempered by the fact she thought Oswald went from Sarah's witnessing of him on the 2nd Floor staircase landing up to the 6th Floor where he shot Kennedy...The real witnessing in this instance went unrecorded...That more important witnessing was in an unrecorded phone call to Wanda, who is American and more fluent in English...Wanda told me separately in a previous phone call that the way she remembered it was Oswald told Sarah that he wasn't going down to watch the motorcade but was going back in to the Break Room instead to finish his lunch...This is vitally important because it is yet another witnessing that places Oswald in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination as told by Fritz and Hosty...Unfortunately I never did the follow-through interview with Wanda I had planned...The Prayer Man people can't forget Wanda fast enough...
This is being kept from The Education Forum by the fake moderator Mark Knight who is just the hand servant of the clique and willing to carry out any dirty duty they require under the guise of serious moderation...Knight is willing to destroy and disappear even the most important discovery of our generation in order to keep in favor with the clique who know exactly what his job is...It doesn't bother him in the least and his power within that dirty hierarchy allows him to excuse himself from answering it and its impact on JFK research...The wiring on The Education Forum short-circuits good research and those who are favored by it are quite satisfied...Using dirty moderation to assure a guaranteed win each and every time is a format they prefer...My discovery from Wanda Daniel refutes the Prayer Man theory...Therefore The Education Forum must disappear it at all costs to keep Jim D in business and not having to admit he was wrong...Andrew Iler then role plays that everything is above board and done by the utmost high principled (read-only) rules...
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: New: "Faulty Evidence: Problems with the Case Against Lee Harvey Oswald"
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 03:41:12 PM »Only in your poorly educated mind. For starters, the WC's scenario is hardly "complete." Good grief, the HSCA blew that myth out of the water.
Second, you're in no position to be saying whether a plausible alternative scenario has been presented (in fact, several such scenarios have been presented), because you've done so little reading on the JFK case that you don't even know what the WC said about key issues, nor do you know what leading WC defenders have said on key issues, much less what WC critics have documented.
The key questions for any reporter to answer for his/her readers/viewers are Who, What, Where, When, How, and Why. The What, Where, and When are givens. The Why is unknowable. The key questions the WC has answered that the CT community as a whole can't answer is Who and How. The WC answered these questions with total clarity and with a wealth of evidence to support those answers. Name one CT who has ever been able to do that. Most CTs, you included, never even attempt to do so. You only tell us why you dismiss the WCR conclusions. You only tell us what didn't happen. The few attempts you make to tell us what did happen are deliberately vague and unsupported by credible evidence. None of you will put your cards on the table. None of you will tell us who you think did it and how it went down. If you can't do that, what is the point of your decades long efforts? If you can't explain what happened with the evidence that is available now, what is the purpose for your continued pontifications on this subject? Do you think anybody is going to care what you have to say if you can't answer the fundamental questions based on what is known now? Do you think some game changing evidence is suddenly going to appear out of nowhere? Just what purpose do you think you are serving?
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Thread for Dallas Cinema Associates appreciation
« Last post by Duncan MacRae on Today at 03:11:31 PM »Oh i know about that video already. Kinda odd how much people repost stuff from the groden dvdOdd?

There's nothing odd about it, Matt.
The Video was posted for reference purposes and for the benefit of anyone who has not viewed it.
After all, no one knows everything about everything...apart from me
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Thread for Dallas Cinema Associates appreciation
« Last post by Matt Brooks on Today at 02:49:23 PM »Oh i know about that video already. Kinda odd how much people repost stuff from the groden dvd
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Who was at Parkland?
« Last post by Steve M. Galbraith on Today at 02:15:01 PM »Google AI Search ResultThat's missing JFK's personal physician, Dr. George Burkley. I would consider him one of the "Kennedy people." An example of a long standing problem: these physicians to the President get too close and cover up for them.
Only one member of John F. Kennedy's family was at Parkland Memorial Hospital—his wife, First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy.
However, his broader political, administrative, and security entourage at Parkland consisted of at least 35 to 40 people. This group was made up of high-ranking government officials, personal staff, and security detail who rushed to the hospital following the shooting.
The prominent members of the entourage present at Parkland included:
🏛️ Executive & Political Figures
• Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson & Lady Bird Johnson: Ravelled in a separate car in the motorcade, they were quickly rushed to Parkland and secured in a separate room inside the hospital for their safety before being escorted to Air Force One.
• Nellie Connally: The wife of Texas Governor John Connally. While Governor Connally was being treated for severe wounds in Trauma Room 2, Nellie remained at the hospital by his side.
💼 White House Staff & Aides
• Kenneth O'Donnell: JFK’s Chief of Staff and close political advisor, who helped coordinate the trip.
• Lawrence "Larry" O'Brien: Special Assistant to the President and a key member of JFK's inner circle.
• David Powers: White House Assistant and close personal friend of the president.
• Evelyn Lincoln: JFK’s personal secretary.
• Malcolm Kilduff: The Assistant White House Press Secretary who officially announced President Kennedy's death to the media from a Parkland briefing room.
• Brigadier General Godfrey McHugh: JFK's military aide.
🛡️ Secret Service & Security Detail
• Roy Kellerman: The Secret Service agent in charge of the White House shift who rode in the front seat of JFK's limousine.
• Clint Hill: The Secret Service agent who famously leaped onto the back of the limousine as it sped away. He remained immediately outside Trauma Room 1.
• William Greer: The Secret Service agent driving the presidential limousine.
• Rufus Youngblood: The Secret Service agent who heroically shielded Vice President Johnson during the shooting.
• An additional dozen or more Secret Service agents and local police officers secured the corridors and perimeter of the emergency wing.
📰 Pool Journalists
• A small group of press pool reporters, including Sid Davis (Westinghouse Broadcasting), Robert MacNeil (NBC News), and White House press aides, arrived at the hospital immediately behind the motorcade to gather information for the public.
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