JFK Assassination Forum

On top of all the other flaws and problems with Gordon Arnold's "recollections" is the location he decided to "film" from, a location from which part of the road was obscured by a wall and a tree. Arnold said that he did some panning tests(of this once in a lifetime opportunity), but he never figured out that there were much better filming positions that were not that far away? Doh!
It's no wonder after realizing his amateurish blunder, Arnold invented piles of dirt which would have to be very high to see over the wall but the higher he goes, the more the tree would hinder his view.
Of course the obvious solution would be to film closer to the full view of the road but then he loses his cover story of being hidden, deep in the shadows.
BTW the tree as seen in Duncan's post was there in 1963 and if anything the main bulk of leaves was lower and more dense.



JohnM

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Verily, I was banned for eight months too. By now, readers of JFK Assassination Forum know my writing stye, and my views. So why was I banned at EF-JFKA? Likely for daring to speak sideways on some of Niedernut's insane views.

Simkin appears a bit into his senescence, and recently wrote he spends 10 hours a day writing history tomes. I hate to day it, but no one is ever going to read Simkin's history tomes. Simkin is in his 80s, and likely should be beekeeping or keeping a cottage somewhere pleasant in Great Britain (if there are any pleasant places left).

One problem with the JFKA CT community is that it includes a huge subset of people who believe every CT, or who are diehard leftists to the max, which today means Islamist-leftists.

The culmination of this konfetti of kooks: Mossad perped the JFKA!

Even Jeff Morley dog-whistled that tune for Tucker Carlson.

Well, I sense the JFKA ship is inevitably passing into the night, with fewer and fewer people genuinely interested in the topic. Like the Lincoln assassination---a few buffs, and that is it.

The generation that was alive when the JFKA happened will soon pass on.

The millennials and the Gen-Zers have as much reason to be interested in the JFKA as I had for the McKinley assassination. The only difference is to the best of my knowledge, nobody made a movie about the McKinley assassination so younger generations might have seen Oliver Stone's movie. The bad news is that most of what they think they know about the JFKA came from Oliver Stone's movie. We even have people on this forum who seem to have been duped by that movie too, such as the people who to this day claim the SBT was an impossibility. I thought Seinfeld's Magic Loogie spoof was more credible than Kevin Costner's ridiculous courtroom demonstration. It convinced me there had to be a second spitter.

FYI, there were five executions done in Texas in 1964. All were black men and two did not involve murder.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_in_Texas,_1960%E2%80%931964#cite_note-5

Your chart doesn't show the date of the crime so it doesn't give us a clue as to the length of the appeals process. I have little doubt Oswald would have been convicted of a double homicide and sentenced to death but I have serious doubt his sentence would have been carried out before SCOTUS vacated all existing death penalty statutes in 1972. There is a real possibility an 86 year old Oswald would still be sneering at us from his jail cell in Texas.

    Where are you getting, "...would RAISE a person's waist 6 FEET above the ground"?  Where has "6 FEET" been mentioned?

The expanded Badgeman photo which Duncan posted shows Badgeman, the supposed Gordon Arnold, and a third man all have their waists at the height of the 6 foot high stockade fence.

OK. I'll give you this one. I didn't notice the question mark at the end of your sentence.

It happens.

That doesn't change the fact that this is still the kind of mistake witnesses make when they try to piece together what happened from memory. She had no reason at the time to make a mental note of whether the first shot was fired before or after JFK turned to look to her. So taking your sentence as a question rather than a statement, my answer is yes, she got mixed up. We are talking about two events that occurred a little more than a second apart. 

But it wasn’t just Mary Woodward. There are at least 23 witnesses who recalled JFK reacting to the first shot. There are another 20+ witnesses who put the first shot occurring:

• after z180 (occupants of VP car, VP security car);
• as the car was approaching the Thornton sign (TE Moore);
• when JFK was passing the Stemmons sign in her line of sight (Linda Willis);
  
• an instant before z202 (Phil Willis);
  
• just as the President’s car was almost directly in front of where is was standing (Karan Hicks, Gloria Calvery, Karen Westbrook)
  
• the President had just passed me (Jean Newman);
• just as he got just about in front of me (John Chism)
  

She also said the shots came from over her right shoulder, i.e. the GK. Do you believe that part too?

Direction of the source of a sound is not easy for humans to observe. Perception is also skewed by the proximity of reflective surfaces. You are comparing apples and watermelons (oranges are not an apt comparison to fit this metaphor).

As for you insistence that the last 2 shots came in rapid succession, if that were true, there were two gunmen. The Carcano was not designed to fire two shots in rapid succession. The FBI determined it would take a minimum of 2.3 seconds between shots to fire an aimed shot.

Humans are not clocks. The evidence does not require the last two shots being closer than 2.3 seconds apart.