Recent Posts

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10
1
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The first President of Belarus taught Oswald Russian in Minsk
« Last post by Lance Payette on Today at 01:13:12 PM »
It occurred to me this morning that probably the best analogy for Oswald is the kid whom everyone agrees was pretty dull and harmless but who becomes radicalized within a fairly short period and commits some horrific act of Islamic terrorism that no one who knew him previously can quite believe. Yes, we can see the seeds of strangeness throughout Oswald's life, but it does seem that in 1963 he became increasingly radicalized in the direction of Cuba, either through self-radicalization or through association with others in New Orleans and/or Mexico City. A turn toward radicalism culminating in the JFKA strikes me as FAR more plausible than any scenario that has him as a KGB or CIA operative extending back to his defection or earlier. The general downward spiral of his life in 1963 would, of course, be an additional factor. Probably the psychological literature as to how young people can pretty quickly become radicalized would be a more fruitful place to look than the dark musings of people like Newman, Morley, et al.
2
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: CIA Wallets at Tenth and Patton
« Last post by Lance Payette on Today at 12:57:45 PM »
Quote from: Richard Smith on Today at 12:49:11 PM
The old planted wallet story always makes me laugh.  Imagine a plot to frame Oswald that involves planting his wallet at the Tippit murder scene.  Fantastic evidence that puts him at the crime scene.  Score one for the conspirators.  But what do these masterminds do? They suppress the planted wallet.  Why? Because Oswald has his real wallet on him when arrested. HA HA HA.  Something any child could have anticipated but the conspirators are caught by surprise.   And then given the choice of which wallet to suppress, they decide the suppress the more incriminating wallet left at the crime scene!  Wow.

Richard, you're just no fun. If you insist on thinking logically, what are we going to do with you? Take a week off, binge-watch Three Stooges episodes on YouTube, and get back to us when you're ready to think outside the box of rationality.
3
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The first President of Belarus taught Oswald Russian in Minsk
« Last post by Lance Payette on Today at 12:50:19 PM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 03:25:32 AM
A KGB officer there said that he “ran” LHO, and that Marina Oswald has been a KGB asset, but that she snapped her ties to the spy agency after marrying LHO and going to the US.

Alas, people who knew them intimately, on a daily basis, saw absolutely no evidence of any of this. Quite the contrary. So many of these CT tales not only require Oswald and Marina to have been two completely different people from the young couple those who knew them best knew them to be but also to have had at least an additional 12 hours in every day to live these shadowy alter lives. As I've said previously, Oswald's apartment was in one of the premier locations in Minsk, "near" damn near everything. The supposed "proximity" to a KGB school is completely irrelevant. No one ever saw him enter, exit, talk about or pay any attention to this KGB school. Never mind that this "KGB officer's" tale is contradicted by every shred of actual evidence, it has instant credibility because it fits some goofy CT narrative.

Quote
Add to the bubbling stew the more-recent book “Operation Dragon” written by former CIA Director James Woolsey in 2021, along with former Romanian intel officer Ion Mihai Pacepa. The pair posit that LHO was KGB asset, had been brainwashed in Russia to perp the JFKA. Curiously, Woolsey and Pacepa echo Nagell’s narrative, that officials in Moscow wanted to recall LHO, but could not.

Woolsey was CIA Director for less than two years in the mid-1990s. He had no particular involvement with the intelligence community and certainly none with the JFKA. His work was shredded as lunatic fringe stuff by CIA analysts ("But of course!" say the CTers). It is pure unadulterated speculation thrown out there to fit a larger narrative.

"Brainwashed in Russia to perp the JFKA." What does this even MEAN? Not only is there not a shred of evidence of this, not only is it contradicted by the actual evidence, but what does it even MEAN? This sounds like the sort of goofy thing our local KGB-obsessed loon would say about the KGB supermen who live inside his head.

4
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: CIA Wallets at Tenth and Patton
« Last post by Richard Smith on Today at 12:49:11 PM »
Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on Yesterday at 10:57:48 AM
WC defenders do not want to acknowledge that someone planted a fake "Oswald" wallet, complete with a fake Hidell ID card, at the Tippit murder scene. They reject this scenario even though former FBI Special Agent Robert Barrett insisted that an Oswald wallet with both Oswald ID and fake Hidell ID was found at the Tippit scene, and even though Barrett clearly recalled that he was asked if he knew who Oswald or Hidell was by the policeman who was examining the wallet. Exactly how would Barrett be "mistaken" about these things?

In addition, former FBI Special Agent James Hosty confirmed that Barrett told him about the finding of an Oswald wallet at the Tippit scene. Let me guess: Hosty was "mistaken" too!

Furthermore, there is news footage of policemen examining a wallet right next to Tippit's patrol car.

Dale Myers says that although the wallet in the news footage resembles Oswald's arrest wallet in a number of features, "photographs show that the Oswald arrest wallet is not the same billfold" that's seen in the news footage. Umm, no, photos show no such thing.

Myers argues that the metal band on the arrest wallet's leather flap is not quite the same as the band on the news film wallet's flap, and that the arrest wallet's leather flap is shaped slightly differently than the leather flap of the wallet in the news film. On their face, these are mighty thin reeds on which to base an argument.

The photos in question by no means clearly establish either of these claims. It is hard to make out the exact length and shape of the metal band on the flap of the news film wallet. Allowing for a modest amount of sun reflection and the somewhat grainy nature of the news film, the news footage wallet's metal band might very well be identical to the arrest wallet's metal band.

As for the argument about the length of the bands, Myers fails to consider the fact that in the photo of the arrest wallet the flap is lying down flat and is apparently snapped shut, whereas in the news film the wallet's flap is unsnapped and partially up. Also, the top left edge of the news film wallet's flap is somewhat obscured by a plastic photo sleeve beneath it, and it is hard to determine the exact shape of the other edge of the flap because of the grainy nature of the news film, because of the camera angle, and because the flap is up and not lying flat. The two flaps look to me like they could very well be identical. For that matter, the wallets look identical in size and in all of their essential features. Just a whopping coincidence, I'm sure.

The fact remains that former Special Agent Barrett insisted an Oswald wallet with both Oswald ID and fake Hidell ID was found at the Tippit scene, and that Barrett clearly recalled that he was asked if he knew who Oswald or Hidell was by the policeman who was examining the wallet.

The fact also remains that Special Agent Hosty confirmed that Barrett told him about the finding of an Oswald wallet at the Tippit scene.

The fact further remains that there is news film footage of policemen examining a wallet right next to Tippit's patrol car. Are we supposed to believe that it's just a remarkable coincidence that a wallet was found next to Tippit's car?

The Dallas police said they found Oswald's "real" wallet on his person while they were driving him to the police station. Huh? Really? How would that have worked? Think about how weird and awkward it would have been for a policeman to be reaching his hands under Oswald's butt to feel if he had anything in his rear pockets or to be sticking his hands in Oswald's front pockets. Surely the police searched Oswald when they arrested him at the theater and most certainly would have found the wallet on his person if he'd had it with him.

The old planted wallet story always makes me laugh.  Imagine a plot to frame Oswald that involves planting his wallet at the Tippit murder scene.  Fantastic evidence that puts him at the crime scene.  Score one for the conspirators.  But what do these masterminds do? They suppress the planted wallet.  Why? Because Oswald has his real wallet on him when arrested. HA HA HA.  Something any child could have anticipated but the conspirators are caught by surprise.   And then given the choice of which wallet to suppress, they decide the suppress the more incriminating wallet left at the crime scene!  Wow. 
5
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Reasonable Doubts?
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 12:34:10 PM »
Quote from: Dan O'meara on Today at 09:51:53 AM
Bumped for Corbett.
I see a deleted post from you, was this some half-assed attempt at a response to my post.

I don't know how to dumb this down for you any more than I have. Even the picture Steve Galbrath posted for you didn't seem to help. It's impossible to say precisely what the orientation of the bullet was at any given instant but we can make reasonable estimates. The smaller hole in the front of JBC's jacket suggests it had continued to tumble after entering his back in a near perpendicular orientation. Whether it had tumbled 150, 180, 210 degrees or somewhere in between is impossible to  say. What we do know is the base was flattened from the side. That indicates the base received the brunt of the blow when the bullet struck bone which is evidence the bullet was tumbling. Further evidence is that lead fragments were deposited in JBC's wrist and thigh. That came from the lead core which was only exposed at the bottom of the bullet.
6
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Wound In Gov. Connally's Back
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 12:19:28 PM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 11:13:15 AM
The small round hole in the rear of JBC's assassination-day hole was enlarged twice to examine fibers for trace elements.

Even so, it is a small round hole, just large enough to accommodate a non-tumbling shot from a WC 6.5 slug.

Is that what you convinced yourself of?
7
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Wound In Gov. Connally's Back
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 11:13:15 AM »
The small round hole in the rear of JBC's assassination-day hole was enlarged twice to examine fibers for trace elements.

Even so, it is a small round hole, just large enough to accommodate a non-tumbling shot from a WC 6.5 slug.

8
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Wound In Gov. Connally's Back
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 11:10:38 AM »
Huh?

PS: Cole's suggestion, that JBC was shot in the back while lying in Nellie's lap, is possibly the most preposterous thing ever posted on this forum...and that really is saying something.

I never suggested this.
9
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Wound In Gov. Connally's Back
« Last post by Jack Nessan on Today at 10:43:14 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 04:10:04 PM
Recently there was discussion in this forum regarding the shape of the wound in Gov. JBC's back.

Here is a drawing of the wound, by JBC's surgeon, Dr. Robert Shaw.



Shaw thought it most likely that JBC was shot from above and behind, by a slug unimpeded by any obstructions. No tumbling. So you had an elliptical or ovoid wound, north-south on JBC's body.

Shaw debrided the wound, thus enlarging the final resulting scar.

In addition, there is a small round hole in the rear of JBC's assassination-day shirt.



I doubt the bullet that struck JBC was tumbling.

The evidence, as seen in JBC's shirt and the doctors sketch, points away from a tumbling bullet.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

The hole in the shirt was obviously cut out or trimmed for some reason. It is square and trimmed not round or elongated and frayed. A picture of the hole does nothing as far as understanding whether the bullet was tumbling or not. The hole in the shirt is not representative of anything unless the reason for making the cuts to the hole is known and a description of the hole prior to the alteration.
10
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Wound In Gov. Connally's Back
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Today at 10:04:25 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 04:10:04 PM
Recently there was discussion in this forum regarding the shape of the wound in Gov. JBC's back.

Here is a drawing of the wound, by JBC's surgeon, Dr. Robert Shaw.



Shaw thought it most likely that JBC was shot from above and behind, by a slug unimpeded by any obstructions. No tumbling. So you had an elliptical or ovoid wound, north-south on JBC's body.

Shaw debrided the wound, thus enlarging the final resulting scar.

In addition, there is a small round hole in the rear of JBC's assassination-day shirt.



I doubt the bullet that struck JBC was tumbling.

The evidence, as seen in JBC's shirt and the doctors sketch, points away from a tumbling bullet.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.



The small hole in the back of JBC's shirt and the small hole in the front of his jacket prove, beyond the slightest doubt, that the bullet was not "tumbling" [ ::)]
For traditional LNer's (not the Tinfoil Nutters who have emerged from the woodwork recently) this poses a very large problem.
JFK and JBC were shot through by the same bullet at z222/223. The bullet did not tumble.
How, then, can this bullet be CE399?
What mental gymnastics need to be employed to account for the metal fragments in JBC's wrist if the bullet didn't tumble.
For now we can ignore the FACT that there isn't the smallest particle of evidence linking CE399 to Parkland Hospital and a mountain of evidence against it.
We can also ignore the FACT that CE399 was entered into evidence as the bullet found in Parkland without anyone identifying it as such.

The evidence proves the bullet fired through both men did not tumble.
Yet there are metal fragments in JBC's wrist.
How do LNers square this circle?

PS: Cole's suggestion, that JBC was shot in the back while lying in Nellie's lap, is possibly the most preposterous thing ever posted on this forum...and that really is saying something.
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10