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Read the Zavada report.
It's tedious but by the end of it all thoughts of alteration of the Z-film will be long gone.
It is ridiculously comprehensive.
No thanks, I'll listen to Dino's version of events. He was there on the 24th November 63, worked on the film, is a CIA expert on image and film analysis and only his opinion matters to me. Rest of it is absolute speculation.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Lance Payette on Today at 08:50:24 PM »
She doesn't omit the timing of the second and third shots.  She says: "There seemed to be a pause of a few seconds, and then there were two more loud noises which she suddenly realized were shots..."

By mentioning a pause after the first of a few seconds and then two shots but not mentioning a similar pause between them, she provided a description that is consistent with her DMN story although with less specific detail.  Also, those words were written by the FBI. The DMN story and her 1988 THWKK clip were all her words.

Because she was always - and adamantly - consistent that the second and third shots were right on top of each other, my conspiratorial suggestion was that she had probably said the same thing to the FBI and that it was the FBI that had "conveniently" omitted it.
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       I don't support the SBT, but Specter did graduate from Yale Law School in 1956. Give the man his due.
His role was assistant council for the panel but he took over the whole god damn show.
He's not a weapons expert or forensic pathologist who would be qualified to put forward a theory. The fact of the matter is Kellerman told them there was a flurry of shots similar to a sonic boom all coming at once. Jean Hill told them there were 4 to 6 shots and the last 4 all came together, countless other testimony telling them the shots came in together yet they allowed Specter to push this nonsense we've had to chew on for over 60 years.
The Connally's who were in the limo for Gods sake pushed aside and made fools out of so this idiot can prevail. i've seen the phone call between Hoover and LBJ before the warren commission got started. Three shots and one gunman and that was that, they were never going to allow anything else.
E Howard Hunt said it all in his confession about LBJ.
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Read the Zavada report.
It's tedious but by the end of it all thoughts of alteration of the Z-film will be long gone.
It is ridiculously comprehensive.
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Those would be some S-L-O-W escaping assassins. Even in his FBI statement, Summers said he hung around 15-20 minutes. In his Sixth Floor Museum interview, he said he tried to go up to the railroad yard, was turned away by Mystery Guy, went to the Postal Annex through the back entrance, discussed what he had seen with the workers (whom he knew as owner of Summers Mailing Company), called his wife and told her to turn on the TV, left the Postal Annex after 20-30 minutes, got into his truck that was parked on the Commerce extension behind the Annex, saw three Spanish-looking guys get into a car parked on Houston in front of the Annex (which doesn't mesh with what Files says), and arrived at the intersection with Houston just as they drove away ahead of him at a fast clip, whereupon he turned right onto Houston behind them and headed home to Oak Cliff. Again, pretty S-L-O-W escaping assassins, it seems to me, and I'm not sure why you'd bother driving away at a high rate of speed if you'd already hung around 30+ minutes.

https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/kennedy-assassination-malcolm-summers/210939

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Today at 08:40:19 PM »
I wonder if Andrew Mason will continue citing Mary Woodward to prop up his claim that JFK was hit by the first shot since she clearly says in this interview that the first shot didn't hit anybody. Go to the 11:10 mark to hear her describe the shooting.

Woodward's description of what happened actually confirms JFK was hit by the first shot. Just because she wasn't aware he was hit doesn't mean he wasn't hit.
She describes 3 clearly audible shots with a noticeable pause between the first and second shot. Most notably she describes how close the second two shots were together, the third being fired before the reverberation of the second shot had faded.
Shot - pause - two shots really close together. A pattern described by many witnesses.
She is also clear that the headshot was one of the two shots close together.

So, let's use our brains.
We've all see the Z-film.
Now, think about the pause between the first and second shot (there is no pause between the second and third).

Where does this pause between the shots happen in the Z-film?

There is only one possible answer - it is the pause between JFK reacting to being shot around z225 and the headshot at z313.
It is a pause of around 5 seconds.
Woodward cannot be describing JFK's reaction to being shot around z225 and the headshot as the second and third shot because there is no pause between the second and third shot!!
She must be describing the first shot passing through JFK at z222/z223, a 5 second pause, and then the two shots extremely close together, one of which was the headshot.
Over 40 witnesses describe JFK reacting to the first shot as we see in the Z-film but hardly any of them actually realised he'd been shot. Many thought he was horsing around.
Woodward was just another witness who didn't realise he'd been hit with the first shot but her detailed observations confirm this was the case.

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This place is laughable. Nell and John Connally are not credible witnesses because both their statements to the Warren commission disagreed with Specter's single bullet theory. They both stated JBC was shot two seconds after Kennedy was shot in the neck area. The forums answer: Not credible witnesses, lunatics.
Brugoni was a CIA operative who was a trained expert in image and film analysis, gave his entire working life to the CIA and had an impeccable reputation. Brugoni stated the Zapruder film we see today is not the one he saw on 24th Novemeber 1963. The forums answer: Not a credible witness, lunatic.
Meanwhile back in Dealey Plaza Howard Brennan saw Oswald through a brick wall, described his height, weight, how good looking he was and his build, passed into onto Dallas Police and that exact description was used to identify Oswald in the cinema. The forums answer: What a guy, get that man a beer.
This forum shouldn't be called the JFK assassination forum it should be called the JFK official narrative assassination forum.
Arlen Specter, a congressman. not a lawyer, not a weapons expert, not a forensic pathologist, not an investigator, not anything but a congressman. He comes up with a theory that a bullet can do all kinds of weird things even though the Connally's told him it didn't happen that way and you believed it hook line and sinker.
Very good - crack on.

       I don't support the SBT, but Specter did graduate from Yale Law School in 1956. Give the man his due.
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Who's saying your dumb ass has to wait?


You did:


It's a process.  It's taking time.  Once everything is finished, it'll get posted.  Could be another month; could be another year.  Hold your breath, please.


I don't think holding my breath is an option. I'll be long dead before you produce the evidence to show the Ripley's "affidavits" are authentic.
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Brugoni is not a credible witness, as people like Pat Speer have illuminated: https://www.patspeer.com/chapter-19d-stuck-in-the-middle-with-you

Another researcher named Craig Bouzarth has also done some great work on the Z-film, and I am convinced he's once and for all shown that the film couldn't have been altered.
This place is laughable. Nell and John Connally are not credible witnesses because both their statements to the Warren commission disagreed with Specter's single bullet theory. They both stated JBC was shot two seconds after Kennedy was shot in the neck area. The forums answer: Not credible witnesses, lunatics.
Brugoni was a CIA operative who was a trained expert in image and film analysis, gave his entire working life to the CIA and had an impeccable reputation. Brugoni stated the Zapruder film we see today is not the one he saw on 24th Novemeber 1963. The forums answer: Not a credible witness, lunatic.
Meanwhile back in Dealey Plaza Howard Brennan saw Oswald through a brick wall, described his height, weight, how good looking he was and his build, passed into onto Dallas Police and that exact description was used to identify Oswald in the cinema. The forums answer: What a guy, get that man a beer.
This forum shouldn't be called the JFK assassination forum it should be called the JFK official narrative assassination forum.
Arlen Specter, a congressman. not a lawyer, not a weapons expert, not a forensic pathologist, not an investigator, not anything but a congressman. He comes up with a theory that a bullet can do all kinds of weird things even though the Connally's told him it didn't happen that way and you believed it hook line and sinker.
Very good - crack on.
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