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Or a bullet that had tumbled 180 degrees.

 :D :D
Royell has hit the nail on the head about your Looney Tunes grasp of reality.
You are clearly unaware that you are suggesting the bullet tumbled 180 degrees, straightened up while it passed through his jacket, then resumed a-tumbling.
It is physically impossible for a bullet rotating at such an incredible speed to make such a small hole in his jacket.

In your cartoonish view of the world the bullet exits JBC's chest backwards.
It must then tumble a further 360 degrees in order to enter his wrist (and leg) backwards.
The distance it has to travel is around 12 inches/1 foot.
Let's say the bullet exiting Connally's chest is travelling around 1000 feet per second [Sturdivan estimated "somewhere between 1,100 and 1,300 feet per second, roughly."]
This means the bullet is spinning 1000 times per second!!!
 

1] Where does this incredible rotational energy come from?
2] How can a 3 cm object spinning 1000 times per second leave such a small hole?
3] What nonsense are you going to come up with next?
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Secret Service, FBI, CIA, DPD, LBJ and probably others - they all had CYA reasons for a post-JFKA cover-up of one degree or another.

Another one of my little epiphanies is a quote from Gerry Patrick Hemming (of all people): "I know for a fact there were plans to assassinate JFK. Maybe Oswald just beat 'em to it." I think it's entirely possible that what the best CT researchers (like Hancock) are uncovering were indeed assassination plots at one stage or another of seriousness. Researchers encounter difficulty in fitting Oswald and Dealey Plaza into such plots BECAUSE HE WASN'T PART OF THEM. He may have even been aware that talk of an assassination was in the air - but when Fate handed him an opportunity on a golden platter, he "just beat 'em to it."

I could buy that except for the timing of the shots and the shallow angle between the back and throat wounds (regardless of whether or not the bullet went on to hit JBC). While eyewitness testimony is not reliable, many recall two of the shots being much closer together than the third shot. There is disagreement as to whether the first two shots or the last two shots were close together but it was noted even by law enforcement officers. When the Discovery Channel recreated the SBT, the shot emerged from JFK’s chest as shown by their own highlighting of the trajectory and the ersatz autopsy drawing they made up to be evaluated by an independent forensic examiner who concluded there were two shooters. However, a shot from a lower floor of the Dal-Tex building looks like it would have worked.

I think it’s possible Oswald gave one of the shooters access to the TSBD and perhaps acted as a lookout. Could he have left the building so soon afterwards to deliberately draw attention to himself and away from someone else? A deliberate “patsy”? If he was put up to it by pro-Castro Cubans, could he have been promised refuge in Cuba? Maybe they had no intention of honoring that promise and he was supposed to be killed but he was captured first.
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That retching sound you hear is MTG regurgitating yet another batch of the same old, same old.

Here is the essentially identical thread, with the same title, from 2023 at the Ed Forum: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29157-the-vanishing-low-fragment-trail-and-wc-apologists/#comment-502109.

Since Pat Speer participates extensively and pretty well kicks MTG's fanny, it actually might be worth reading. FWIW, MTG says in response to one of Speer's criticisms of Mantik (relating to Mantik's close association with Fetzer), "As for 9/11, he [Mantik] said he is open to the possibility of controlled demolitions but stressed that he has done no research on the subject and is not an expert on the matter." But here, no more than two days ago, MTG was referencing Mantik's supposed work on 9/11. And on it goes.

At the 2023 thread, MTG begins by saying "In other forums, I have tried repeatedly to get WC apologists to explain the fact that the low fragment trail described in the autopsy report does not appear on the extant autopsy skull x-rays." And yet here we go again. What must it be like to have this obsessive loop playing in your head, over and over and over?

I have no personal axe to grind with MTG. He's just a perfect example of the lunatic fringe CTer that I'd almost have to invent him if he didn't exist.

Here is Pat Speer's extensive chapter on the head wound: https://www.patspeer.com/chapter13solvingthegreatheadwoundmyster

Here are his two chapters on Mantik, "Stuck in the Middle with You" and "Dr. Mantik's Flying Circus": https://www.patspeer.com/chapter-19d-stuck-in-the-middle-with-you, https://www.patspeer.com/chapter-19e-dr-mantiks-flying-circus
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[...]

There are oodles and gobs of doubts, but there are no rational doubts for the simple reason that they all have plausible explanations.

To think otherwise is to accept the ludicrous idea that oodles and gobs of evil, evil, bad guys planned the assassination, "patsied" the "patsy," planted the evidence, did the shooting, pulled off the getaway, and are STILL covering it all up after 60-plus years.
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The Haag team used sophisticated experiments to show that a Carcano bullet will tumble when exiting soft tissue. You can ignore that if you choose but that doesn't change the fact.

Landis' statement is highly dubious given that there is no record of him saying that during the first six decades following the assassination. Picking up such an important piece of evidence and then just casually setting it down would have been an incredibly stupid thing for him to have done. This screams "false memory" which is a documented phenomenon

   Knott Lab put the SBT to bed with FORENSIC SCIENCE that is routinely admitted in courts across this country. "Hagg team" and "experiments"?  :D
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It is worth noting that in his ARRB interview in 1996, Dr. Humes was shown the lateral JFK autopsy skull x-ray and was asked to identify the EOP-to-right-eyebrow fragment trail described in the autopsy report. After a pause and with an embarrassed look on his face (per Doug Horne, who was present), Humes admitted he could not, and he acknowledged he could see fragments higher on the skull on the lateral x-ray:

Q. I'd like you to see if you could identify where you understand the entrance wound to have been on the skull, looking at this lateral X-ray.
A. Well, back in this area [pointing to the EOP].
Q. You're referring to the very low back of the cranium. . . . Do you see any fragments, stellate or otherwise, that would be consistent with an entry wound in that point?
A. Well, there's no fragments there. There's fragments or what appear to be fragments up higher towards the vertex in this picture. (Deposition of Dr. James Humes, ARRB, February 13, 1996, pp. 216-217)


Humes was asked about the vanishing fragment trail and the rear head entry wound's location because these had already been issues for years. They caused major contention between the autopsy doctors and the HSCA's medical panel (FPP). WC skeptics had understandably cited these issues as raising questions about the authenticity of the autopsy evidence.

In contrast, nearly all lone-gunman theorists have always uncritically and vacuously assumed that the autopsy doctors simply erred in their descriptions of the entry wound and the fragment trail, as if these errors were minor and understandable. A notable exception is Dr. Larry Sturdivan, a former HSCA wound ballistics consultant and physicist. In his 2005 book The JFK Myths, Sturdivan rejects the cowlick entry site and argues that the autopsy doctors were correct in locating the entry wound near the EOP.   

Dr. David Mantik, a radiation oncologist and physicist who has done numerous optical-density measurements of the autopsy skull x-rays at the National Archives, argues that the 7x2 mm fragment above the right orbit on the x-rays is likely a remnant of the EOP-to-right-eyebrow fragment trail, although no other trace of the trail appears on the x-rays:

The autopsy report describes a fragment trail from the EOP to the right parietal bone to the right supraorbital ridge. This trail is not present in the extant X-rays, but perhaps such a trail did exist before these fragments were removed, i.e., perhaps Humes told the truth in his autopsy report. It is even possible, if not likely, that the 7x2 mm metal fragment above the right orbit was part of that trail. (JFK Assassination Paradoxes, 2022, p. 92)

Dr. Mantik makes the key point that the 7x2 mm fragment cannot be associated with the high fragment trail:

It [the high fragment trail] is truly inconsistent with the location of the 7x2 mm fragment above JFK’s right eye. . . . This 7x2 mm fragment lies well off the debris trail (Figure 6). (p. 91)

Just keep in mind that if the EOP site is correct, this means, among other things, that the bullet could not have been fired from the sixth-floor window. The WC's experts could only make the EOP site line up with the sixth-floor window by assuming that JFK was leaning well over 50 degrees forward when the bullet struck. No photo or footage shows him leaning anywhere near that far forward when the head shot occurred. 


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Ok. So in what non-Newtonian universe does an object impact something hard, not penetrate it, and continue around it rather than deflecting away from it?

I love strawman arguments, When did I say the bullet didn't deflect?
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Or a bullet that had tumbled 180 degrees.
Striking the wrist bone could affect the rotation of the bullet.
When did I say the bullet went through the wrist bone?
Ok. So in what non-Newtonian universe does an object impact something hard, not penetrate it, and continue around it rather than deflecting away from it?
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That isn't an "if".

Funny how the WC thought it was.

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None of the above "ifs" are mine. You inserted them.
That’s right. You refuse to acknowledge even a possibility that 85+ witnesses might have actually observed what they said they observed. 
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My 90 year old grandmother could have reacted faster than the secret service. They had to cover their asses.

Secret Service, FBI, CIA, DPD, LBJ and probably others - they all had CYA reasons for a post-JFKA cover-up of one degree or another.

Another one of my little epiphanies is a quote from Gerry Patrick Hemming (of all people): "I know for a fact there were plans to assassinate JFK. Maybe Oswald just beat 'em to it." I think it's entirely possible that what the best CT researchers (like Hancock) are uncovering were indeed assassination plots at one stage or another of seriousness. Researchers encounter difficulty in fitting Oswald and Dealey Plaza into such plots BECAUSE HE WASN'T PART OF THEM. He may have even been aware that talk of an assassination was in the air - but when Fate handed him an opportunity on a golden platter, he "just beat 'em to it."
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