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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 11:06:46 AM »
Quote from: Dan O'meara on Today at 09:55:14 AM
It's tiring having to deal with your lack of basic knowledge about this case. The two-wheeler truck, where Bonnie Ray's lunch remains were photographed by Studebaker, is at the end of the third aisle over from Houston, in front of the third set of windows from the east side of the building. Ball mistakenly refers to each set of windows as a single window and, because he represents the Warren Commission, you have just swallowed it down without question. In order for Bonnie Ray to casually leave his lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest on his way down to the 5th floor, he would have to walk all the way to the end of the third aisle from Houston Street, take a right, walk over two aisles and then walk all the way down the first aisle to the Sniper's Nest, leave his lunch on top of the Sniper's Nest, turn around, walk all the way down the first aisle then all the way across the back of the building to the northwest corner. Your belief that the two wheeler truck was in the aisle next to the Sniper's Nest is incorrect. The question still remains - how did Bonnie Ray's lunch remains end up on top of the Sniper's Nest if he had his lunch in the third aisle along? You have clearly checked the Statements/testimonies of the first officers on the scene who reported the lunch remains on top of the SN. You accept that the lunch remains were initially found there. But you have failed to explain how they got there.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Williams' labeling the windows he ate lunch near as "W3" and "W4" on the floor plan was grossly inaccurate?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=227&search=sixth

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Today at 09:55:14 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Yesterday at 11:01:45 AM
Dear widdle danny BOY o'meara,

Not a "couple of aisles over," but one aisle over, between the third and fourth windows from the corner of the building. (The first and second windows were inside Oswald's Sniper's Nest.)

The fact that Bonnie Ray set his used lunch bag on top of a stack of boxes, probably while on his way down to the fifth floor, seems suspicious to you?

How long have you been paranoiac, widdle danny BOY o'meara?

Perhaps you should get professional help.

-- Tom

It's tiring having to deal with your lack of basic knowledge about this case.
The two wheeler truck, where Bonnie Ray's lunch remains were photographed by Studebaker, is at the end of the third aisle over from Houston, in front of the third set of windows from the east side of the building. Ball mistakenly refers to each set of windows as a single window and, because he represents the Warren Commission, you have just swallowed it down without question.
In order for Bonnie Ray to casually leave his lunch remains ON TOP of the Sniper's Nest on his way down to the 5th floor, he would have to walk all the way to the end of the third aisle from Houston Street, take a right, walk over two aisles and then walk all the way down the first aisle to the Sniper's Nest, leave his lunch on top of the Sniper's Nest, turn around, walk all the way down the first aisle then all the way across the back of the building to the northwest corner.

Your belief that the two wheeler truck was in the aisle next to the Sniper's Nest is incorrect.
The question still remains - how did Bonnie Ray's lunch remains end up on top of the Sniper's Nest if he had his lunch in the third aisle along?
You have clearly checked the Statements/testimonies of the first officers on the scene who reported the lunch remains on top of the SN.
You accept that the lunch remains were initially found there.
But you have failed to explain how they got there.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 26 with Brian Roselle
« Last post by Duncan MacRae on Today at 09:21:08 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Yesterday at 10:16:08 PM

News Flash: Testimonies of witnesses who were startled and traumatized aren't worth the paper they're written on.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Jack Nessan on Today at 06:55:00 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 06:32:27 AM
Mr. Frazier: These three cartridge cases [CE-543, CE-544, and CE-545] were placed one at a time on the comparison microscope, and the surfaces having the breech-face marks or the bolt marks were compared with those on the test cartridge cases, Exhibit 557. As a result of comparing the pattern of microscopic markings on the test cartridge cases and those marks on Exhibits 543, 544, and 545, both of the face of the bolt and the firing pin, I concluded that these three had been fired in this particular weapon [Oswald's Carcano].

The firing pin did strike the primer on CE 543 but the shell casing was being used as a snap cap to protect the firing pin. No bullet or powder is present in the shell casing.

This is what the WC was postulating in their conclusion when it was suggested one shell casing was used for dryfiring. The firing pin would have struck the primer and left a mark. It was common knowledge to use a shell casing to protect the firing pin from overextending in the bolt and breaking the firing pin at the base. CE 543 is the only shell casing lacking the chambering mark on its side out of the 30+ viewed by Josiah Thompson.

 Dr E Forest Chapman after having viewed the shells in the Archives wrote an article published in the New American detailing the use of CE 543 for just the purpose of dryfiring. Dr Joseph Nicols gave testimony to the WC on the very subject of dryfiring.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 06:32:27 AM »
Quote from: Jack Nessan on Today at 05:50:46 AM
Two shots are all there ever were. Just like the eyewitnesses stated and the physical evidence has shown.

Mr. Frazier: These three cartridge cases [CE-543, CE-544, and CE-545] were placed one at a time on the comparison microscope, and the surfaces having the breech-face marks or the bolt marks were compared with those on the test cartridge cases, Exhibit 557. As a result of comparing the pattern of microscopic markings on the test cartridge cases and those marks on Exhibits 543, 544, and 545, both of the face of the bolt and the firing pin, I concluded that these three had been fired in this particular weapon [Oswald's Carcano].
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Jack Nessan on Today at 05:50:46 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 05:42:02 AM
Suggesting what?

Two shots are all there ever were. Just like the eyewitnesses stated and the physical evidence has shown.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 05:42:02 AM »
Quote from: Jack Nessan on Today at 04:00:00 AM
The CE 543 shell lacked the chambering mark on the side of the shell, noted by the FBI, from the chamber of the carcano that was present on all the other shells.

Suggesting what?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Jack Nessan on Today at 04:00:00 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 03:30:33 AM
News Flash: Connally was hit by Oswald's second shot, as was JFK.

The CE 543 shell lacked the chambering mark on the side of the shell, noted by the FBI, from the chamber of the carcano that was present on all the other shells. 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 03:30:33 AM »
Quote from: Jack Nessan on Today at 03:15:05 AM
So, he only heard two shots. Cried out after the first.

Everyone around him stated he was hit by the first shot.

But JBC thinks he was hit by a separate shot, but he just did not hear it, and nor did anyone else.

News Flash: Connally was hit by Oswald's second shot, as was JFK.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Jack Nessan on Today at 03:15:05 AM »
Quote from: Jarrett Smith on Yesterday at 05:41:11 PM
How can you have only 2 shots when Connally heard the first, hit with the second, and heard the third?

So, he only heard two shots. Cried out after the first.

Everyone around him stated he was hit by the first shot.

But JBC thinks he was hit by a separate shot, but he just did not hear it, and nor did anyone else.
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