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The idea that this little girl was responding to the "explosion" of the first shot, while a car full of Secret Service agents don't respond to, is as buffoonish as everything else you post. Hickey, Landis and Ready stated that their immediate response to the first shot was to look to their right and rear, in the direction of the TSBD building. We see these agents until frame z207 in the Z-film and they show no such response. However, in Altgens-6 (equivalent to Z-255) we see them responding exactly as they said they did, all three looking to their right rear.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

They probably thought Oswald's first, missing-everything, first shot (at "Z-124") was a firecracker, a backfire, a tire blowout, a distant thunderclap, or a last-call-for-alcohol at The Cellar and therefore mistakenly thought Oswald's second shot (at about Z-222) was his first shot.

I think that Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot was a second later than Max Holland does, but what he wrote about Altgens-6 in 2014 still applies:

Altgens' photo is equivalent to Zapruder frame 255, about two seconds after Oswald fired the second shot. The president can be seen reaching for his neck, where the bullet exited, with First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy's white-gloved hand supporting his left arm. Connally's head is turned 90 degrees, the same bullet having just penetrated his torso. Most spectators are still oblivious to what is happening. Only the police motorcyclists and the Secret Servicemen on the "Queen Mary" follow-up car are reacting to the moment. Three of the eight agents riding in the car — Jack Ready, Paul Landis and George Hickey — have turned their heads toward the source of the shot, while Clint Hill and William McIntyre are in the process of doing so, although Hill would never complete the motion. Seeing that the president was in distress, he leaped from the running board in a futile effort to cover the president's body with his own. Juxtapose Altgens' picture with frame 153 from the Zapruder film, taken an estimated two seconds after the traffic arm mast deflected the first shot. There is no sign of distress in the presidential limousine, and the spectators show no signs of concern. But look again at the Queen Mary. Though not all eight agents can be seen clearly, at least three of them — Ready, Hickey and Glen Bennett — are reacting to some unnatural stimulus. Ready's head is turned sharply to his left, although normal protocol called for him, as the president's body man, to keep his eyes on the quadrant to his right. Hickey, seated on the driver's side of the rear bench seat, is already rising and leaning over far to his left; in his statement, he said he thought someone had thrown a firecracker at the motorcade. Most telling, however, is the movement of Bennett. He can barely be glimpsed leaning to his right, straining to see around presidential aide Dave Powers and Secret Service agent Emory Roberts, seated directly in front of him. He was trying to "look at the Boss's car," he wrote in notes he jotted down while en route back to Washington, D.C., after the shooting. He saw Kennedy struck in the back by the second shot, and then in the head by the third bullet.

https://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/28/truth-behind-jfks-assassination-285653.html


-- Tom
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Three empty hulls were found in the Sniper's Nest:

That's why I'm saying you buffoon!
The first officers on the scene found Bonnie Ray's lunch remains ON TOP OF THE ROW OF BOXES THAT FORMED THE BACK WALL OF THE SNIPER'S NEST,.
Don't you understand basic English all of a sudden?
Don't you see the significance of the fact that his lunch remains were initially discovered ON TOP OF THE SNIPER'S NEST?

The lunch remains were not initially discovered near the two-wheeler truck where they were photographed by Studebaker.
By the time Fritz (accompanied by Tom Alyea) arrived at the south east corner of the 6th floor, the lunch remains had been moved.

Do some research.

Do you understand the importance of this fact?

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Your poorly written last post implied that the three hulls were close together.

D'oh!

Regardless, please tell us:

Did Bonnie Ray Williams commit perjury, or did the Warren Commission, corrupted by evil, evil, evil Allen Dulles and Gerald Ford, alter his testimony as to where he sat while drinking his bottle of Dr. Pepper and eating his chicken-on-the-bone sandwich and bag of Fritos?

-- Tom
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Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Three empty hulls were found in the Sniper's Nest: Two under the window, and one near the stacks of boxes that served as a "partition" between where Williams ate and the space where Oswald sat waiting for the limo to appear on Houston Street.

Officer Mooney testified that Captain Fritz picked the hulls up to look at them and then set each of them back down where he'd picked them up.

-- Tom

Three empty hulls were found in the Sniper's Nest:

That's why I'm saying you buffoon!
The first officers on the scene found Bonnie Ray's lunch remains ON TOP OF THE ROW OF BOXES THAT FORMED THE BACK WALL OF THE SNIPER'S NEST,.
Don't you understand basic English all of a sudden?
Don't you see the significance of the fact that his lunch remains were initially discovered ON TOP OF THE SNIPER'S NEST?

The lunch remains were not initially discovered near the two-wheeler truck where they were photographed by Studebaker.
By the time Fritz (accompanied by Tom Alyea) arrived at the south east corner of the 6th floor, the lunch remains had been moved.

Do some research.

Do you understand the importance of this fact?


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Do you think she was looking at JFK and Jackie at Z-145?
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z145.jpg

What a ridiculous statement.

I never said that she was.

How would I or anyone know what she was looking at half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming after a 17-second pause?

That's another ridiculous statement for two reasons:

1) See above.

2) I takes most people half-a-second to a second to consciously look in the direction of a loud noise.


Given the fact that it takes most people half-a-second to a second to consciously look in the direction of a loud noise, and given the fact that we don't know what Rosemary was doing or looking at half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133, for purposes of our conversation it doesn't matter what Rosemary was-or-was-not looking at half-a-second earlier at hypothetical "Z-124" -- but it's safe to assume that at that time she was either 1) standing and looking at JFK and Jackie, 2) already running and looking at JFK and Jackie, or 3) running and not looking at JFK and Jackie.

It looks to me as thought she was running and looking at JFK and Jackie in Z-133.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z133.jpg

The important thing for purposes of our conversation is that about half-a-second after Z-133, Rosemary Willis was no longer looking at JFK and Jackie but looking back in the direction of the TSBD.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z145.jpg

It doesn't matter if she was standing still or still running in Z-145 -- she was looking back towards the TSBD, not at JFK and Jackie in front of her.

There are several.

Why don't you look into it?

Dealey Plaza is an echo chamber.

Startled and traumatized witnesses are even worse than non-startled / non-traumatized witnesses to a fast-moving, unexpected event.

The idea that this little girl was responding to the "explosion" of the first shot, while a car full of Secret Service agents don't respond to, is as buffoonish as  everything else you post,
Hickey, Landis and Ready state that their immediate response to the first shot was to look to their right and rear, in the direction of the TSBD building. We see these agents until frame z207 in the Z-film and they show no such response.
However, in Altgens 6 )equivalent to z255) we see them responding exactly as they said they did, all three looking to their right rear.

Do some research and stop making a fool of yourself.
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You have not proved your statement previous to your above post that Rosemary Willis was looking back at TSBD at Z145.

Do you think she was looking at JFK and Jackie at Z-145?
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z145.jpg

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Nor have you proved that Rosemary Willis was looking back at TSBD at Z124, ...

What a ridiculous statement.

I never said that she was.

How would I or anyone know what she was looking at half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming after a 17-second pause?

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... nor that if she was, it was due to her hearing a shot at Z124.

That's another ridiculous statement for two reasons:

1) See above.

2) I takes most people half-a-second to a second to consciously look in the direction of a loud noise.


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Willis, herself stated in a recorded interview that she had her eyes on JFK the entire time she was running. Therefore, if her head was turned towards TSBD earlier at Z124, it is because the JFK limo was passing by the TSBD entrance (as recorded in the Towner film) at the same time as Willis was keeping her eye on JFK as she ran around the curved sidewalk.

Given the fact that it takes most people half-a-second to a second to consciously look in the direction of a loud noise, and given the fact that we don't know what Rosemary was doing or looking at half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133, for purposes of our conversation it doesn't matter what Rosemary was-or-was-not looking at half-a-second earlier at hypothetical "Z-124" -- but it's safe to assume that at that time she was either 1) standing and looking at JFK and Jackie, 2) already running and looking at JFK and Jackie, or 3) running and not looking at JFK and Jackie.

It looks to me as thought she was running and looking at JFK and Jackie in Z-133.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z133.jpg

The important thing for purposes of our conversation is that about half-a-second after Z-133, Rosemary Willis was no longer looking at JFK and Jackie but looking back in the direction of the TSBD.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z145.jpg

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The Z film frame where Rosemary Willis has stopped running and has turned her head towards TSBD is approximately Z-200.

It doesn't matter if she was standing still or still running in Z-145 -- she was looking back towards the TSBD, not at JFK and Jackie in front of her.

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What other witnesses statements are there that even remotely support a first shot fired at "Z-124"?

There are several.

Why don't you look into it?

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The significance of 2/3rds majority of witnesses who estimated hearing 3 shots fired in a span of only 4-6 seconds with the last 2 shots being literally “back-to-back” is enough in itself to discount a 1st shot at "Z-124." Not to mention that so far in this thread, there has been no proof as yet posted to prove a "Z-124" shot.

Dealey Plaza is an echo chamber.

Startled and traumatized witnesses are even worse than non-startled / non-traumatized witnesses to a fast-moving, unexpected event. 
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It is not physically possible that there was a 1.5 sec delay between the sound of a shot being heard at Z-190 and JFK's body moving because the velocity of the 6.5 mm bullet was 2000 ft/sec and the distance traveled was only approximately 65 feet. Therefore, a bullet fired at Z190 that hit JFK would impact JFKs body virtually simultaneous with the sound from the muzzle blast being heard by ear witnesses.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Who said anything about a shot at Z-190?
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Here's one that I had to turn a little and stretch back into shape. Yes, I do believe most if not all of the films have been altered to some extent.[

Of course!

The evil, evil CIA does that a lot!

(LOL)
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   That dark figure inside the Yellow Circle is Not Zapruder. We can see this dark figure is wearing an "overcoat" that extends down to his knees. Zapruder was wearing a suit coat that day. This figure is Not Zapruder.


I agree with you... I don't think this is Zapruder... but perhaps Zapruder was cover for this person...
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Tom Alyea's view from the 7th floor.


   If this "getaway" car had been towed away, there would have been a paper trail attached to it. If it had been given a ticket, that too would have generated a paper trail.
   There are still frames showing the entire front license plate of this car. Whether technology today can reveal the letters/numbers on that plate, I don't know. What I do know is that there is No Legitimate Reason for: (1) that car to be rolling down the Elm St Extension while the JFK Limo was still on Elm St, (2) parking the car in front of the TSBD, (3) in a clearly marked "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone, and (4) only to then abandon the car. This was a "getaway" car that was  to be used by the 6th Floor shooter.
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Tommys... a serious discussion considers all possibilities.

You've both "married" yourselves to a theory... and therefore:

Tommy, you can't see that Zapruder was possibly on a walkie-talkie shortly after the assassination, and possibly "cover" for the image picked up in the Bell Film...

Tom you can't see that Hoover was the perpetrator of disinformation and deception on the public and world, saying within two days of the assassination:
“The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin.”
You evidently believe what Hoover and his minions issued about Oswald...

Divorce your theory... and marry truth and justice, and THEN you can have a serious discussion that considers all possibilities, without using middle school put downs...








   That dark figure inside the Yellow Circle is Not Zapruder. We can see this dark figure is wearing an "overcoat" that extends down to his knees. Zapruder was wearing a suit coat that day. This figure is Not Zapruder.   
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