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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK's Throat Wound Was an Entrance Wound: Refuting the Shored-Wound Theory
« Last post by Ted Sager on Today at 08:05:54 AM »When yer right, yer right.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: CIA Wallets at Tenth and Patton
« Last post by Martin Weidmann on Today at 08:03:16 AM »MW: This all happened at least two hours before Bentley gave a wallet to Lt Baker.
Nobody actually said that.
Try reading the combined testimonies again. Perhaps you'll figure it out.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 06:53:18 AM »SB-
Thanks for posting, that is interesting. I have been aware for some time that JFK balls his fists more than clutches anything after being shot the first time, but you bring a clarifying perspective.
The more I looked at the frame Z-248 you provided, the more it looks like JFK actually turns and look to his own left towards Jackie. In this same frame Z-248 frame, Gov. JBC can be seen holding onto his Stetson hat, despite, by the SBT-LNT, having been short through the wrist with a large Western Cartridge 6.5 slug. A shot that left a large hole in the radius bone near his wrist, seen in x-rays.
I may post soon on what Secret Service agent Paul Landis belatedly related.
I have long had reasonable doubts about the SBT-LNT.
Some suspect the shot that apparently strikes JFK ~Z-220 never passed through his body, and cite the finger probe of Dr. Hume to the effect. Hume found only a shallow hole.
If Landis' account is accurate, one explanation is that the first shot to strike JFK was underpowered, and penetrated only marginally, and then fell out onto the back seat of the limo, where is was found by Landis. That is the real CE-399 slug, not the on fund by Tomlinson later.
Just IMHO.
Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
Thanks for posting, that is interesting. I have been aware for some time that JFK balls his fists more than clutches anything after being shot the first time, but you bring a clarifying perspective.
The more I looked at the frame Z-248 you provided, the more it looks like JFK actually turns and look to his own left towards Jackie. In this same frame Z-248 frame, Gov. JBC can be seen holding onto his Stetson hat, despite, by the SBT-LNT, having been short through the wrist with a large Western Cartridge 6.5 slug. A shot that left a large hole in the radius bone near his wrist, seen in x-rays.
I may post soon on what Secret Service agent Paul Landis belatedly related.
I have long had reasonable doubts about the SBT-LNT.
Some suspect the shot that apparently strikes JFK ~Z-220 never passed through his body, and cite the finger probe of Dr. Hume to the effect. Hume found only a shallow hole.
If Landis' account is accurate, one explanation is that the first shot to strike JFK was underpowered, and penetrated only marginally, and then fell out onto the back seat of the limo, where is was found by Landis. That is the real CE-399 slug, not the on fund by Tomlinson later.
Just IMHO.
Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Today at 06:50:40 AM »He never felt the thigh wound.I am not sure what it is about JBC’s lack of physical sensation from his thigh wound that you find laughable. Perhaps you are not aware that bullet wounds are often not felt.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: When Was JFK Hit?
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Today at 06:45:28 AM »Not it doesn't. You have to apply common sense to figure that part out.It is not my analysis. I am just repeating the evidence. Your analysis says that the evidence is wrong.
No, it tells YOU that. People with common sense have figured out his reaction is to being shot.
You have some of the worst analytical skills of anybody I have encountered on the subject of JFKA, LN or CT.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Education Forum Moderated by Anti-Semitic Crackpot---John Simkin is Aware
« Last post by David Von Pein on Today at 05:12:15 AM »OUR PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!
The Ed Forum is paid up and will continue until the Second Coming.
The Zionism thread is alive and kicking.
Niederwacky says he has retired, so he should be able to devote full time to his, er, "interests."
Can it get any better than this?
A quick rundown of the recent turmoil and angst at The Education Forum:
June 10, 2026 -- The forum was taken offline.
June 12, 2026 -- The forum returned after a two-day outage.
June 19, 2026 -- The EF Forum is shut off and goes dark once again.
June 24, 2026 -- The forum rises from its grave once more.
June 26, 2026 (7:42 AM EDT) --- This word comes from EF Forum member Andrew Iler: "Please be advised that the Forum Account has now been paid and will remain active."
All is now right with the world once more. The birds still sing. The sun still shines. And the conspiracy theorists at The Education Forum can still fantasize that Lee Harvey Oswald was "just a patsy" for a while longer. (At least until the next monthly payment is due.) *
* And the most important thing of all (by far!): All of the archived EF Forum links on my websites will continue to work. 😁
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK's Throat Wound Was an Entrance Wound: Refuting the Shored-Wound Theory
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 04:08:27 AM »The back shot entered low enough to graze K's first thoracic vertebra as seen from the X-ray. This would put the entrance much lower than picture indicated. First, Oswald could NOT have made that shot from six stories up. My belief is that the back shot came from the storm drain at the corner of Elm and Houston that was later removed by the city of Dallas to remove the chance of an accurate reconstruction of the shooting as Dallas removed other evidence in the plaza also.
OMG. There's still somebody who believes in a storm drain shooter.
Just how many different ways was JFK assassinated?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The bones of the skull
« Last post by Lance Payette on Today at 04:07:33 AM »I think this thread will stand as bright monument to the fact that you have no business discussing the JFK case in a public forum while pretending to be anything other than a novice on the subject, and while presuming to pass judgment on research you haven't even read and to attack scholars who've done far, far, far more research than you have done or ever will do.
It's quite fascinating how often this sort of statement is made by CT extremists (the most charitable term I can think of) like MTG, Dan O'Meara and Royell Storing. If you don't see what they see, you are a novice, unserious, unworthy, even dumb. You lack the deep, arcane knowledge and understanding that only they possess.
I was blessed by this on another thread today from Dan. The topic was the cosmically unimportant distinction, if any, between the phrases "right in front" and "almost directly in front" as applied to women standing on Elm when JFK's limo passed by:
"Your truly sad attempt to pass them off as the same thing is yet another example of the dumbness that plagues your every post."
Really? I won't strut my IQ or academic honors again (except by request!
), but "dumbness" is not something of which I've ever been accused or that most people think shines through my writing.One could, of course, fill pages with the number of times Royell has told others they are out of touch, out of date, unable to grasp the brilliance of his "research."
Why do CT extremists do this? It isn't that your POSITION is flawed or even silly - no, it's that YOU are a novice, unserious, uninformed, unworthy and just flat dumb.
The answer is in what psychologists call the "social" dimension of the conspiracy-prone mindset. As with many religions and cults, CTers are prone to thinking they are special, that they are the keepers of secret knowledge, that only they see and possess the dark truths that the mass of sheeple fail to see. The corollary - again, common to many religions and cults - is that the sheeple are uninformed, unworthy, even dumb.
Pay attention and you will be astounded at how often this card is played by CT extremists like MTG, Dan and Royell. Weirdly - or perhaps not - it's most commonly played against opponents whom the characterization pretty obviously DOESN'T FIT AT ALL. I might think Jim DiEugenio (just to cite an example) is neck-deep in the conspiracy-prone mindset and capable of believing things I find unbelievable, but I would say more about myself than him if I characterized him as a novice, unserious, uninformed, unworthy and dumb.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK's Throat Wound Was an Entrance Wound: Refuting the Shored-Wound Theory
« Last post by Ted Sager on Today at 03:17:59 AM »The back shot entered low enough to graze K's first thoracic vertebra as seen from the X-ray. This would put the entrance much lower than picture indicated. First, Oswald could NOT have made that shot from six stories up. My belief is that the back shot came from the storm drain at the corner of Elm and Houston that was later removed by the city of Dallas to remove the chance of an accurate reconstruction of the shooting as Dallas removed other evidence in the plaza also.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 03:00:39 AM »Neither ABC, NBC, or CBS even reported the story of John Bolton's guilty plea. It's easy to understand why. Being a Trump hater, he's one of their guys. They aren't going to report a negative story on somebody on their team. They all reported on an escaped giraffe and a woman and her dog who chased away a grizzly bear. Bolton's guilty plea isn't a lead story but a former national security adviser pleading guilty to a serious criminal charge is a newsworthy story and all ignored it. I done watching these assholes. They are a disgrace to the journalism profession.