JFK Assassination Forum

Exactly the kind of pathetic ignorance I expected and why I left!

    Not Responsive. I asked a very simple question about voting, and I get the above. You brag about moving and then you still vote? You got TDS bad.

Nice try Benny. The umbrella Witt brought, which he claimed he still had for his HSCA Testimony 15 years later (yeah right) didn't match the photo in Dealey Plaza.

That's real interesting, in what way did the umbrella that Witt brought to the House Select Committee hearings differ to the Umbrella took by Witt to Dealey Plaza?





At Dealey Plaza





An Umbrella to protest Kennedy was seen long before Witt!



And what do you think that Witt attempted to achieve by deceiving the World 15 years later?
Or do you think like many others that the umbrella seen in Dealey Plaza was a "secret weapon"? "pffft" indeed!



JohnM

Nice try Benny. The umbrella Witt brought, which he claimed he still had for his HSCA Testimony 15 years later (yeah right) didn't match the photo in Dealey Plaza.

DM--

The ominous, portentous music really defines the moment. Surely, something deep is happening, caught on film.

The DCM (short for dark-complected man, among JFKA junkies) is sometimes identified as Felipe Vidal Santiago, a Cuban exile involved in anti-Castro activities. The DCM and Santiago were both slender and swarthy.

The Umbrella Man (UM) and DCM were buddies who helped perp the JFKA, theorize some. The UM raised his black umbrella as JFK passed by on Elm St.

One problem is the real UM, Louie Steven Witt, appeared before the HSCA and explained who he was, and that his raising of the black umbrella as the JFK limo passed was a political protest. The HSCA, full of smart, skeptical smart guys, accepted Witt's explanation.

DCM, for his part, stood on the Elm Street curb and raised his hand high as JFK passed.

Witt, in full public view, sat down on the Elm Street curb after the JFKA, and made no attempt to cover his face. Neither did the DCM, who also sat on the curb next to Witt, and who Witt described to the HSCA as an American Black, not a Latino.

Some JFKA CT'ers seem to believe that UM and DCM, after making a spectacle of themselves, and after helping perp the JFKA, then sat down in full view, and bare-faced to the world. And that they played a role in the JFKA, though exactly how is mysterious.

Something about obviously sending signals to men with guns, although those men could obviously see what was going on anyway.

UM and DCM evidently graduated with high honors from to the Abbott & Costello School of Assassinationology.

The JFKA CT community has some smart fellows, but they are getting scant.

The conspiretards seem to dominate the field now.

If not they, then "researchers" who use the JFKA as platform for their ideological or ethnic biases. Read the Education Forum for such views (put on a gas mask first).

Caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.

Looking at Trump in the most charitable light, he's just one of many "useful idiots" who have, since late 1961 (when J. Edgar Hoover accepted Kremlin-loyal triple agent GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov as an informant at the Bureau's NYC field office), benefited the mafia formerly known as the KGB*.

It's a pity that you (and so many other Americans) are ignorant about the KGB*, and don't know that in 1959 the Kremlin, having realized that the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, developed the "Shelepin Plan," which aimed to get us to defeat ourselves by waging Sun Tzu-like disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies.

It's a pity that you don't know that General Oleg Gribanov, not to be outdone by the FCD, set up an analog unit, Department 14, in his Second Chief Directorate and, after he had trapped Oleg Penkovsky "like a bear in its den" in Moscow in such a way that wouldn't reveal the traitor in the CIA or British Intelligence who had betrayed him in April 1961, sent the aforementioned Polyakov (who later "flipped" to the CIA in Rangoon) to the FBI's field office to "volunteer" to spy for it at the U.N., and two months later sent KGB* Major Aleksei Kulak (Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA) to do the same thing.

It’s a pity that you don’t know that, six months after KGB* Major Anatoly Golitsyn defected to the U.S. from Helsinki on 15 December 1961, Gribanov sent putative KGB* staff officer Yuri Nosenko to the CIA in Geneva to discredit what Golitsyn was telling James Angleton about KGB* penetrations of the CIA, the FBI, and the intelligence services of NATO countries.

It's a pity that you don't realize that this is just "the tip of the iceberg," that, for example, Oliver Stone's self-described mythological (“to counter the myth of the Warren Report” movie, "JFK," was the result of a 1967 KGB* active measures operation, and that your boy, Trump, is wittingly or unwittingly helping the KGB* bring the goals of the aforementioned Shelepin Plan -- getting us to defeat ourselves -- to fruition.

*Today's SVR and FSB

I know what the KGB was all about and how ruthless they were. What I can't understand is why you want to tie Trump to them.