JFK Assassination Forum

JC-

Thanks for your cordial inquiry.

My layman's view of the Z-film is Gov. JBC shot at ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295.

This sequence also lines up with the "bang...bang-bang" cadence attested to by many witnesses (Kellerman shots came in a "flurry" or "on top of each other,' and many others).

There is also the observable and indisputable fact that JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat after JFK is apparently shot in the back ~Z-220.

Under SBT, that means, after having been shot through the chest, having his right wrist fractured, and the slug burrowed into his leg...only then JBC makes 180-degree turn in his seat to check on JFK.

And that JBC only imagined he was pushed forward by the slug that struck him in the back. Although he is indisputably seen being pushed forward ~Z-295.

The smoke-and-bang show on the GK is another interesting apparition, seen and heard by many. It may have been a diversion.

All that said, I suspect the JFKA was the work of a very small group, possibly Alpha 66 Dallas residents, and included LHO, or G2 assets. Those same residents may have worked with LHO on the Walker shooting attempt or intentional miss.

The Warren Commission was not interested in following leads, either into G2 and KGB, or into CIA assets in the US. G2 also also penetrated CIA Cuban assets in the US.

The LN narrative was settled on rather soon, and the FBI carried out most investigative work.

There were two guys in the State Department whose careers were ended as they wanted to follow up G2 leads, including the US Ambassador to Mexico.

But if the JFKA conspiracy involved more than three or four people, I would be surprised.

LHO, another gunsel behind JFK, and the GK diversion guy.

  "Regardless"? You have absolutely no idea what car is parked where and you deem this "regardless"?  This is why your opinion(s) with respect to the "getaway" car are meaningless. You are completely lost.

The Nat Geo snippet was important due to it showing the car that was parked 2 cars IN FRONT of Sawyer's car. THAT is the car that was being mistaken for a  car parked alongside the island on the Wiegman Film. This was all due to yet another "Lego" visual aid screw up. And now here You are, focusing on cars parked BEHIND Inspector Sawyer's that arrived well after Wiegman filmed the Island.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Yes, there is.

In the pertinent Wiegman frames, part (James Hackerott says it's a middle part) of your "Abandoned Getaway Car" is visually merged with a light-colored car parked on the other side of Elm Street Extension.

Now that's been established, we're trying to figure out exactly which of the light-colored cars parked on the other side of Elm Street Extension in various photographs and films -- taken before, during, and after the shooting -- is the one in Wiegman that's merging with your light-colored 1958 Pontiac Bonneville parked next to the "Island."

When I say "visually merging" with your "Getaway Car" I mean perhaps just the rear part (or, more likely and as James Hackerott prefers -- a farther forward part) of said 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Getaway Car" is overlapping the light-colored car in the background. Whether we're seeing the rear part or the middle part of your "Getaway Car," what really "seals the deal" that it really IS your 1958 Pontiac Bonneville Getaway Car is the distinctive 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "jet exhaust" design on its side, plus the fact that its passenger's-side rear tire and its passenger's-side front tire and [fill in the blank] are also visible in certain Wiegman frames.

Perhaps the light-colored car that your "Getaway Car" is visually overlapping in Wiegman is one of those two light-colored cars that were still parked next to the TSBD and behind Inspector Sawyer's car when Amos Euins was put in it a few minutes after the assassination in the National Geographic documentary you turned me onto a few months ago!

Warning: One of those two light-colored cars behind Inspector Sawyers' car is barely visible in said documentary.

--  Tom

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Did you or did you not "turn me onto" a National Geographic documentary which shows the 1958 Pontiac Bonneville at issue still parked next to the "Island" [fill in the blank] minutes / hours after the assassination?

In that footage, do we or do we not see Inspector Sawyer's car parked closest to the camera next to the TSBD?

If that's not Inspector Sawyer's car, all I can say is BFD.

Pardon my German.

Whether or not Amos Euins was inside that car at that time and whether or not it was Inspector Sawyers' car is immaterial to what we're debating.

The important thing is that two light-colored cars can be seen parked next to the TSBD behind "Inspector Sawyer's car," and one or the other of them could very well have been the light-colored car that your 1959 Pontiac Bonneville Getaway Car visually merged with in Wiegman.

-- Tom