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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Overview of Dealey Plaza
« Last post by Steve Howsley on Today at 06:12:36 AM »
 Thumb1: Nice work as always Fred
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: AI, CIA and "Contract Source"
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 06:06:13 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 05:57:22 AM
There is a possibility DeMohrenschildt was an Iron Curtain asset, or double agent.

All the more reason for Solie to have Moore contact DeM. and have him surveil LHO?

Contrary to what Freddy said earlier, Solie and Moore worked in different parts of the CIA.

I think it's more likely that GdM went to Moore and said, "This Oswald guy is a queer duck. Want me to keep an eye on 'em?"
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: AI, CIA and "Contract Source"
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 05:57:22 AM »
There is a possibility DeMohrenschildt was an Iron Curtain asset, or double agent.

All the more reason for Solie to have Moore contact DeM. and have him surveil LHO?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 03:54:47 AM »
Quote from: Dan O'meara on March 14, 2024, 12:07:57 AM
For starters, between points #1 & #2, you have Officer Haygood running straight through the Ft Worth sign.

 :D :D :D
You funny.

The No Glove Cop does Not WALK toward the Pergola. Take the time and closely examine the Darnell/Martin Films. Through my research, I have untangled Officer Haygood's entire journey and how he was able to back at his motorcycle make his 12:35 radio transmission.

Point#4 is where Haygood is filmed in Darnell walking towards the TSBD building. You don't have a clue what he does after this point.
If Haygood is to get back to his bike in time to make his radio call then this is an approximation of the route he took. We know after he is filmed in Darnell, Haygood is back at his bike making his 12:35pm radio call.

And you've untangled Haygood's entire journey??
I've yet to hear this.
Please explain his full journey from the time he gets off his bike to the time he makes his radio call, and the evidence this timeline is based on?
As I understand it you have Haygood at the Triple Underpass for at least 4 minutes (12:34pm). How does he get round the railroad yard and back to his bike for his 12:35pm radio call

   Have you viewed the NEW DARNELL FILM SNIPPET? In this snippet, the "No Glove Cop" is walking even further toward/down the Elm St Ext.
   That same NEW Darnell snippet shows the Elm St Ext is NOW jammed with people. There is no way that Officer Harkness could drive his 3 wheel motorcycle down that street at this point in time.
   That "No Glove Cop" is being filmed at around 12:38. At 12:35 Officer Haygood was already back at his motorcycle and making his documented police radio transmission. That motorcycle cop ain't Haygood.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Overview of Dealey Plaza
« Last post by Jarrett Smith on Today at 03:53:04 AM »
Quote from: Gerry Down on Today at 03:43:13 AM
Notice Fred's holding an umbrella but never tells us who the umbrella man was

Tom Graves?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Overview of Dealey Plaza
« Last post by Gerry Down on Today at 03:43:13 AM »
Notice Fred's holding an umbrella but never tells us who the umbrella man was
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: AI, CIA and "Contract Source"
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 03:28:23 AM »
Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Today at 03:08:55 AM
FL--

You seem to be a leading proponent of the theory that the CIA historian inaccurately defined Clay Shaw's role with the CIA in 1992, and then never issued a clarification or retraction of an obvious error. 

https://www.cia.gov/contact-cia/

The above is a connecting link to the CIA Public Affairs/Media Relation guys.

Go ahead and ask them if the CIA historian made a basic blunder.

If they say so, I will buy it.

You have done a word search on some online documents. That is not the same as reviewing the actual physical papers and items the CIA historian's well-staffed office did, including microfilmed documents, and other ephemera.

Good luck with the CIA public affairs staff.

Dear "BC,"

Maybe he was too embarrassed to admit it.

Or maybe Bruce Solie got to him.

Did he ever apologize for the huge mistake he or one of his assistants made in the same 1992 report regarding Gilberto Alvarado, Elena Garro de Paz and Lee Harvey Oswald?

No?

WHY NOT?


-- "TG"
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: AI, CIA and "Contract Source"
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 03:08:55 AM »
FL--

You seem to be a leading proponent of the theory that the CIA historian inaccurately defined Clay Shaw's role with the CIA in 1992, and then never issued a clarification or retraction of an obvious error. 

https://www.cia.gov/contact-cia/

The above is a connecting link to the CIA Public Affairs/Media Relation guys.

Go ahead and ask them if the CIA historian made a basic blunder.

If they say so, I will buy it.

You have done a word search on some online documents. That is not the same as reviewing the actual physical papers and items the CIA historian's well-staffed office did, including microfilmed documents, and other ephemera.

Good luck with the CIA public affairs staff.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: AI, CIA and "Contract Source"
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 02:53:23 AM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Today at 02:42:14 AM
WC Executive Session | Jan. 27, 1964

Rep. Boggs. So I will ask you. Did you have agents about whom you had no record whatsoever?

Mr. Dulles. The record might not be on paper. But on paper would have hieroglyphics that only two
people knew what they meant, and nobody outside the agency else could say it meant another agent.

Rep. Boggs. Let's take a specific case, that fellow Powers was one of your men.
Mr. Dulles. Oh, yes, he was not an agent. He was an employee.

Rep. Boggs. There was no problem in proving he was employed by the CIA.
Mr. Dulles. No. We had a signed contract.

Rep. Boggs. Let's say Powers did not have a signed contract but he was recruited by someone in CIA.
The man who recruited him would know, wouldn't he?

Mr. Dulles. Yes, but he wouldn't tell.

The Chairman. Wouldn't tell it under oath?
Mr. Dulles. I wouldn't think he would tell it under oath, no.

The Chairman. Why?
Mr. Dulles. He ought not tell it under oath. Maybe not tell it to his own government but he wouldn't tell it any other way.

Mr. McCloy. Wouldn't tell it to his own chief?
Mr. Dulles. He might or might not. If he was a bad one then he wouldn't.

Wowie zowie!

That proves it!

Clay Shaw was a "highly paid" CIA "contract source"!


Whatever that is.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: AI, CIA and "Contract Source"
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Today at 02:42:14 AM »
WC Executive Session | Jan. 27, 1964

Rep. Boggs. So I will ask you. Did you have agents about whom you had no record whatsoever?

Mr. Dulles. The record might not be on paper. But on paper would have hieroglyphics that only two
people knew what they meant, and nobody outside the agency else could say it meant another agent.

Rep. Boggs. Let's take a specific case, that fellow Powers was one of your men.
Mr. Dulles. Oh, yes, he was not an agent. He was an employee.

Rep. Boggs. There was no problem in proving he was employed by the CIA.
Mr. Dulles. No. We had a signed contract.

Rep. Boggs. Let's say Powers did not have a signed contract but he was recruited by someone in CIA.
The man who recruited him would know, wouldn't he?

Mr. Dulles. Yes, but he wouldn't tell.

The Chairman. Wouldn't tell it under oath?
Mr. Dulles. I wouldn't think he would tell it under oath, no.

The Chairman. Why?
Mr. Dulles. He ought not tell it under oath. Maybe not tell it to his own government but he wouldn't tell it any other way.

Mr. McCloy. Wouldn't tell it to his own chief?
Mr. Dulles. He might or might not. If he was a bad one then he wouldn't.
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