JFK Assassination Forum

   ROBIN - Thanks for posting this photo. It shows how narrow that landing was in front of the TSBD front door. And it displays the edge of the Island that Officer Baker ran across as he headed toward the TSBD front door. I also would be interested in how high above ground level the Zapruder Perch is vs this Top of the TSBD front steps. As anyone can see, from the Top of the TSBD front steps, you can see all the way down Houston St. That height is even well above the water pool. This is a very educational photo on many levels.

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People who elect socialist mayors like the ones in New York, Chicago, and Seattle deserve anything and everything bad that happens to them. As their livers become shittier and shittier, as they surely will, I'm going to sit back and laugh at their plight. They made their bed, now they can lie in it. Socialism doesn't make anybody's lives better. The goal of socialism is to make everyone's lives equally miserable.

   Some of these people that live in these states are trapped. They do Not vote for these clowns and can Not afford to move. They are modern day slaves stuck inside a plantation. 

I've seen statements like this before, but is it really up to the individual to decide whether his or her personal sense of doubt meets the threshold of legally defined reasonable doubt?

The only doubt about Oswald's guilt is unreasonable doubt. Any objective examination of the evidence is going to convince any reasonable and objective person Oswald fired the shots that killed JFK and seriously wounded JBC. The only reason for believing Oswald could be innocent is a desire to believe there was a conspiracy and since there is no credible evidence of a conspiracy, negating the findings of the WCR is the only path to the conclusion. Hardcore Oswald-deniers will come up with any cockamamie excuse they can think of to dismiss each and every piece of evidence of Oswald's guilt. Vincent Bugliosi has identified over 50 such pieces of evidence. It becomes a rather silly exercise when one has to invent so many excuses to argue for Oswald's innocence.

Conspiracy believers could argue for conspiracy with Oswald as the shooter. Such a scenario is theoretically possible. If Oswald had even a single accomplice, say a getaway driver who got cold feet and bailed on him at the last minute, you would still have a conspiracy. The evidence under that scenario would look exactly the same as it does with Oswald as a lone gunman, but since there is no evidence of such an accomplice or any other accomplices, there really isn't much reason to believe there was a conspiracy at all.

The other type of CT are the ones who have not educated themselves regarding the evidence in the case and their body of knowledge consists of what they read in any of the myriad conspiracy books published over the years or Oliver Stone's fictitious presentation of the evidence. Such people have allowed themselves to be duped into believing things such as the impossibility of the SBT or a second shooter on the GK. If they had a thorough knowledge of the evidence, they would know the evidence doesn't support either of those beliefs. Some really smart people fall into that trap. Bill Maher is one such person.  I disagree with him about 75% of the time on political issues but I am still a fan because I find him both funny and smart. It seems obvious to me he was taken in by Oliver Stone's bogus courtroom reconstruction of the SBT, bogusly claiming the SBT was impossible.  Either that or he got it from a conspiracy book that has made much the same invalid arguments.

The initial movement of JFK's head, as a result of the headshot, is forward and down (as seen in the slowed-down GIF below). The illusion is that this movement is so quick it can't be detected by the human eye and we are left with the so-called "back and to the left" movement (which is simply JFK's head rebounding off his chest as a result of the explosive force of the headshot):



As for the topic of this thread, I believe interest in this case would have fizzled out in the '70's if it wasn't for the Z-film being shown on Geraldo. The Z-film reignited interest in this case and has been the driving force of this interest for so many decades.

I think there would be less interest in the assassination without the Z-film and probably no HSCA. But the WC skeptics were out in force before the Z-film was made public so I'm not sure WC skepticism would have died out completely. CT bibles Six Seconds in Dallas had already been published and Ruby's killing of Oswald fueled much of the early belief in a conspiracy. Would  the skepticsim have continued into the 1980s and beyond. Probably but not on the scale it did. I don't think Oliver Stone would have bothered making a movie about the JFKA.