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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK's Throat Wound Was an Entrance Wound: Refuting the Shored-Wound Theory
« Last post by John Mytton on Today at 11:45:53 AM »
Quote from: Ted Sager on Today at 10:56:31 AM
Even if Oswald had hit K through the back, he was much higher than even this
bs photo. From the sixth floor the angle would have been 60 or 70 degrees downward. All reports that the back shot was 20 or 30 degrees is impossible. Back shot was even at an upward angle. Where could an upward shot have come from? Think about it.

The first image comes from the HSCA analysis and they have the SBF happening at about Z190 but modern Scholars have the SBF occurring as Kennedy emerges from behind the Stemmons sign from Zapruder's POV.











JohnM
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK's Throat Wound Was an Entrance Wound: Refuting the Shored-Wound Theory
« Last post by Ted Sager on Today at 10:56:31 AM »
Even if Oswald had hit K through the back, he was much higher than even this
bs photo. From the sixth floor the angle would have been 60 or 70 degrees downward. All reports that the back shot was 20 or 30 degrees is impossible. Back shot was even at an upward angle. Where could an upward shot have come from? Think about it.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Did G-2 Encourage LHO to Perp the JFKA?
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 09:52:48 AM »
SMG-

Thanks for your comments.

To be sure, mere reporters and authors, without incarceration, investigative and subpoena powers, can only say for certain so much. Russo is careful to say what he has learned, and to not go beyond that.

Sure, a reporter can gently ask questions, peruse the public domain. 

But it remains that Al Haig, Win Scott and Thomas Mann (and State Dep't staffer Thomas) all thought somebody was behind LHO. I do too. Win Scott papers are a curious lacuna in the public record.

Moreover, it is beyond dispute that forma or government investigations into LHO-Havana connections were suffocated in 1963-4 by LBJ order, and that G2'ers have told Russo (and were filmed in his documentary) that other G2'ers triggered LHO.

Did G-2'ers physically assist LHO on 11.22?

As the SBT-LNT theory does not hold water, I think it is an open question.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Education Forum (No Longer) Moderated by Anti-Semitic Crackpot
« Last post by Benjamin Cole on Today at 09:41:14 AM »
I modified the title of this thread, as William Niedernut has been defrocked.

In truth, I hope the EF-JFKA recovers, and becomes more focused on the JFKA than on current politics.

The internet is flooded with political commentary, from all sides. Another forum in the red- blue-pissing wars...not needed.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: CIA Wallets at Tenth and Patton
« Last post by Martin Weidmann on Today at 09:31:37 AM »
Quote from: Mitch Todd on Today at 01:52:31 AM
The Weidmann method:

1.) Make unsupported assertion.

2.) Demand that the other guy find evidence for said unsupported assertion

3.) Whine that the other guy is "playing games"

4.) When the other guy points out the games you play, whine some more.

 :D

And here we go, round and round again...

Still no explanation of what is wrong with the case I have presented. Only a waste of time...
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Last post by Mark A. O’Blazney on Today at 06:33:49 AM »
Quote from: Tom Scully on January 16, 2024, 11:12:20 PM
You are praising a politician who has been found guilty of sexual assault by a jury in a civil proceeding who employed a CFO for 50 years, in a business found guilty on all counts of financial crimes by a jury, after the CFO plead guilty of all criminal counts against him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Weisselberg

A politician found by a NY court in a civil trial to have committed massive fraud and is currently awaiting determination in the penalty phase of that proceeding as to whether the assets of the business will be sold by the court appointed receiver to satisfy up to $375 million in civil fraud damages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_investigations_of_The_Trump_Organization

A presentation of the 91 criminal charges in four indictments and a superseding indictment, currently faced by this politician, especially considering the recent background described  above, convincingly labels this politician as leader of a personality cult, along with the evidence of sheer denial in the post quoted above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecution_of_Donald_Trump_in_New_York

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_prosecution_of_Donald_Trump_(classified_documents_case)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_prosecution_of_Donald_Trump_(election_obstruction_case)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_election_racketeering_prosecution
The State of Georgia v. Donald J. Trump, et al. is a pending criminal case against Donald Trump, the 45th president of the United States, and 18 co-defendants.
wow, a lot has happened in just two and a half years, huh?  guess enough good men did enough of nothing.  and they called ed meese a pig……. sigh+
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Education Forum Moderated by Anti-Semitic Crackpot---John Simkin is Aware
« Last post by Mark A. O’Blazney on Today at 06:23:18 AM »
Dang, I see ol’ Tom Scully lurking’ around heah.  Hey Tom, I was waybackin’ the let’s roll forums recently and got hit with some nostalgia.  Still keeping Pace with it all?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Last post by Jack Nessan on Today at 04:18:13 AM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 09:52:31 PM
Why is that clear. What is clear is she didn't remember things happened the way Zapruder's camera did.
You can be too close to an event to see it clearly. It narrows the focus.
Are you serious? She just saw her husband seriously wounded and the President murdered in a gruesome way and you think she would just calmly take it all in. Ridiculous
Neither's testimony spot on. JFK's arms did not remain locked in a raised postion. By Z312 his elbows were back down.

Why is that clear. What is clear is she didn't remember things happened the way Zapruder's camera did.

Sure, she did. She did remember things happened the way Zapruder's film did. BC and Nelly watched the film in the hospital. JBC had two completely different statements concerning the assassination. Now you know why.

Mr. SPECTER. I have just one other question, Governor. With respect to the films and the slides which you have viewed this morning, had you ever seen those pictures before this morning?
Governor CONNALLY. I had seen what purported to be a copy of the film when I was in the hospital in Dallas. I had not seen the slides.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: When Was JFK Hit?
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 03:39:24 AM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on Today at 03:19:26 AM
Because they saw it in 3 dimensions up close and with sound. You just have a grainy low quality and shaky film that is missing the sound track.

With perfect recall.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 03:38:31 AM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on Today at 03:10:26 AM
Was he shot earlier in the motorcade? Witnesses said he was waving to people on the right when the first shot sounded and he immediately reacted to it.  Where else do you see that occurring?

Once again you make the foolish mistake of assuming what a witness has said is an established fact. You'll never figure out the JFKA as long as you have that mindset.
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They likely would not have to make notes to remember seeing the President right in front of them being assassinated.  The image would have been seared into their memories for life.

There's no reason to think the position of the car would have been "seared into their memories for life".
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