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And now you wanna compare a figure on Willis 21, to a figure from 30 Seconds after the Kill Shot?

So...Using your illogical logic, one of the two same Oswalds seen at different times in this two photo composite might, or might not, not be Oswald?

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    Witt said by the time he got the umbrella open, the JFK Limo had passed by him. That's pure  BS:. Like I said, the Bronson Film was not public knowledge when he testified. This is why nobody on the panel questioned him about the difference between his testimony and the Bronson Film Images. There is simply NO WAY the Witt WC Testimony is "perfectly consistent" with his testimony. It's not even close. And he says, "POSSIBLY standing on the retaining wall." Again, that too is pure  BS:. "POSSIBLY"? And you wanna swear by that?
RS: Witt said by the time he got the umbrella open, the JFK Limo had passed by him. That's pure  BS

The Bronson film shows that TUM is standing about where the retaining wall would be, with his umbrella up and open, while the limousine has indeed already passed him by. Did you not look at the still I posted?


There is simply NO WAY the Witt WC Testimony is "perfectly consistent" with his testimony.

1.) There is no "Witt WC testimony." He didn't testify about the assassination until the late 1970s.

2.)Adjusting for that, your sentence says, in effect, "There's NO WAY that Witt's testimony is perfectly consistent with Witt's testimony." Since there is only one "Witt's testimony" it would indeed be perfectly consistent with itself, just as a=a in all cases.
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   The Elm Ext is absolutely jammed with people. You can even see people stretching across it in front of the Huge Gates.
   And remember that the Nat Geo piece you are claiming was long after the kill shot, also shows Officer Harkness #99 3 wheel motorcycle sitting alongside Inspector Sawyer's car. The later you put the Harkness 3 Wheel Motorcycle sitting on the Elm St Ext, the LATER you put Harkness & Officer Haygood being filmed together on the Darnell Film Snippet. Far, Far later than the 12:35 Haygood police radio transmission. And, the alleged Officer Haygood was filmed with Roger Craig and Buddy Walthers walking along that entire stretch of train cars before they reach the Officer Harkness check point. How late are you NOW putting Roger Craig and Walthers back inside the train yard? And Walthers was photo'd at 12:39 on Elm St looking around the manhole cover on the (S) side of Elm St. How are you putting Walthers inside the train yard that late, and then having him photo'd at the manhole cover at 12:39? You got seriously conflicting timeline issues. Big time!
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Still no evidence the Russians affected the outcome of the election in either 2016 or 2024.

I thought you said the Russians didn't try harder than usual to interfere in our 2016 election?

Did they want Hillary to win?



Libertarians are the worst.

Especially pro-Trump Libertarians.
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Looks to me like he's on a dirty of the lawn next to the edge of the sidewalk.


However, even if we were to assume for the sake of argument that TUM is indeed on the sidewalk, it's still fatal to your argument. Witt testified that he was on the grass when he saw the motorcade start down Elm. He said he started walking towards the street while trying to open the umbrella. He had trouble opening the umbrella but "continued to move forward and finally got this umbrella up in the air" with the sequence ending "I think by the time I got the thing up in the air I was over and possibly standing on the retaining wall." There is a low retaining wall at the edge of the Elm St sidewalk, so his testimony is perfectly consistent with your interpretation of the Bronson film. You're just out of luck here.

    Witt said by the time he got the umbrella open, the JFK Limo had passed by him. That's pure  BS:. Like I said, the Bronson Film was not public knowledge when he testified. This is why nobody on the panel questioned him about the difference between his testimony and the Bronson Film Images. There is simply NO WAY the Witt WC Testimony is "perfectly consistent" with his testimony. It's not even close. And he says, "POSSIBLY standing on the retaining wall." Again, that too is pure  BS:. "POSSIBLY"? And you wanna swear by that? 
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   Umbrella Man is standing on the sidewalk. This is why he said something along the lines of, "... just sat down" with respect to sitting on the retaining wall behind him. People such as yourself are simply unfamiliar with just how wide that sidewalk is. When they shut down Dealey Plaza to do the CSI work, they had DPD Cop Cars parked on that same sidewalk. Those cop cars did not hang over the sides of the sidewalk. That Elm St sidewalk is not similar to the one you used to play hopscotch on.
Looks to me like he's on a dirty of the lawn next to the edge of the sidewalk.


However, even if we were to assume for the sake of argument that TUM is indeed on the sidewalk, it's still fatal to your argument. Witt testified that he was on the grass when he saw the motorcade start down Elm. He said he started walking towards the street while trying to open the umbrella. He had trouble opening the umbrella but "continued to move forward and finally got this umbrella up in the air" with the sequence ending "I think by the time I got the thing up in the air I was over and possibly standing on the retaining wall." There is a low retaining wall at the edge of the Elm St sidewalk, so his testimony is perfectly consistent with your interpretation of the Bronson film. You're just out of luck here.
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                            Nat Geo (8:55 - 8:57)       &      "The Full Darnell Film"  by - "The JFK Theorist"   (23:32 - 23:40)       

   Nat Geo - Shows the Elm St Extension to be empty of people. Amos Euins is sitting inside Inspector Sawyer's car and Officer Harkness's 3 wheel motorcycle is double parked next to Inspector Sawyer's Car.  (Time Stamp)

 "The Full Darnell Film" - Shows the Elm St Extension now jammed with people.  Officer Harkness is filmed providing security behind the TSBD. (Time Stamp)
Yeah. About that:

The segment in the Nat Geo episode you refer to shows a DPD officer walking by in a blue hat carrying a shotgun. The blue hat marks the officer as a member of the DPD patrol division. The shotgun was issued to the guys manning patrol cruisers, and was carried in the cars. Security of the motorcade route was given to the white-hatted traffic division. The patrol division officers provided security in the Trade Mart, or were out on normal patrol.

What this boils down to is that the office you see in the Nat Geo snippet is one of the patrol officers sent to Dealey Plaza by the dispatcher, but they don't start arriving until 12:45 at the earliest.  That is the very earliest the Nat Geo segment could have possibly occurred, and it was likely taken even later. In the end, it doesn't further your notions at all.


   After 62+ years, I can understand you're having problems accepting that which has been right in front of you. But there it is, right there. The Elm St Ext is jammed with people.
Again, if you actually look at the Darnell film, you see that the crowd of people is south of where the ESX is already turned northeast. You can actually see a car parked on the north side of the ESX to the left of the crowd. That wouldn't happen if the street was as packed with people as you'd like to believe. 

Also again, when Martin is filming Harkness driving Euins down the street, he is standing directly south of the TSBD annex. You can tell by how close the red gates are. That puts Martin to the east of where the crown in Darnell is gathered. The following image shows the area where the Darnell crowd was gathered in red, with Martin's position marked with a red lower-case "m".




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ME: Did the [Republican-controlled] Senate Select Committee on Intelligence find that Russia's interference in the 2016 election was more widespread and intensive than it had been in previous years?

GROK: Yes, the bipartisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) explicitly affirmed that Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election represented a significant escalation compared to previous Russian operations.

In Volume 4 of its report ("Review of the Intelligence Community Assessment"), the committee reviewed the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) and found it presented a coherent, well-supported case. The SSCI stated that the ICA made a clear argument that the manner and aggressiveness of the Russian interference was historically unprecedented. It specifically endorsed the ICA's judgment that the Russian campaign "demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations."

Key supporting elements from the SSCI's multi-volume report include:

Unprecedented activity against election infrastructure: Volume 1 described "an unprecedented level of activity against state election infrastructure" by Russian intelligence, which occurred in all 50 states. The committee viewed this as potentially a "trial run" to probe U.S. defenses.

Aggressive, multi-faceted campaign: Across volumes, the report concluded that "the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi-faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election." This included hacking-and-leaking (e.g., DNC and Podesta emails), a sophisticated social media/information warfare operation by the Internet Research Agency (IRA) aimed at polarizing Americans and boosting Trump while harming Clinton, and other active measures.

Broader context and scale: The committee noted this went beyond prior Russian efforts (e.g., in 2008 or 2012), with greater directness, cyber elements, and scope. It affirmed the ICA's core findings on Russian leadership intent (ordered by Putin, with a preference for Trump) while critiquing the ICA for limited historical context on earlier interference.

The SSCI's investigation was one of the most exhaustive congressional reviews, involving over 200 interviews and more than a million pages of documents. Its findings were bipartisan (Republican-led at the time, with input from both parties) and aligned with the 2017 ICA and other assessments (e.g., Special Counsel Mueller's report described the interference as "sweeping and systematic"). The committee highlighted ongoing vulnerabilities but did not find evidence of collusion/coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russian government—though it identified significant counterintelligence risks from contacts.

In short, the SSCI did not merely repeat prior assessments; it independently reviewed the underlying intelligence and explicitly supported the conclusion that 2016 marked a more intensive and widespread Russian effort than in earlier years. The full reports (Volumes 1–5) are available on the Senate Intelligence Committee's website.

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Libertarians are the worst.

Especially pro-Trump Libertarians.

Still no evidence the Russians affected the outcome of the election in either 2016 or 2024. Both Hillary and Kamala lost the electoral college decisively and they had nobody but themselves to blame. Both would have had to win at least 3 additional states to win the election. If is far fetched to think the Russians affected the outcome in even one state. Three is preposterous.

Hillary and Kamala are both losers who won't accept accountability for their own deficiencies as candidates. Do the country a favor and nominate Kamala again in 2028. Better yet, put both Kamala and Hillary on the ticket. I don't care which one you put on the top of the ticket.
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    There is a difference between a DPD "Officer" and a DPD Motorcycle Officer. A DPD motorcycle officer always wears a DPD UNIFORM and wears a White Helmet. DPD  Officer Buddy Walthers and DPD Officer Roger Craig were wearing dress suits that day. DPD Officer Luke Mooney was also wearing a dress suit. All 3 of these DPD Officers were wearing suits and were back inside the railroad yard immediately after the kill shot. There were other DPD Officers back inside the railroad yard that were wearing suits. This is what Buddy Walthers was referring to. DPD Officers that were wearing suits.
Walthers and Craig were not Dallas Police Department officers. They were deputies of the Dallas Sheriffs Department, a completely different agency.
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You guys continue bowing at the Kamp alter, but he did totally botch his Lovelady ID. And then there's his "Prayer Man" debacle. His scorecard has him right on track to become the next curator at the Sixth Floor Museum.

And they'll make a life-size wax figure of you and put it in the "Useful Idiots" wing of the Kremlin.
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