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Ruth's family resided in 1930 with a future CIA officer who reported to Bruce Solie. So what?

"Taylor" is a typo for Talbot
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https://aarclibrary.org/2018/01/27/the-jfk-case-the-twelve-who-built-the-oswald-legend-part-12-the-endgame/

....Like Hyde, the Hoke family was also involved in looking for communists. There is a 1955 memo to the CIA’s Office of Security, discussing how William Avery Hyde was back in his hometown of Palo Alto visiting the Hokes. Brought into the circle was Dr. Jenkins and also Taylor Bielefeldt,

Bielefeldt was the CIA chief of the USSR Division of the Foreign Documents Division, who had spent a lot of time with Ruth’s parents William and Carol Hyde in the 1920s and 1930s. Bielefeldt’s division worked with the Joint Publications Research Service, a CIA unit that monitored public documents to study scientific and technical developments in the Soviet bloc.

Several people close to Oswald were also active in the Joint Publications Research Service. These people include legend maker #3 Priscilla Johnson, the NANA reporter in Moscow who befriended the Oswald family; legend maker #4 Richard Snyder, the American consul in Moscow; and the allegedly unwitting Spas Raikin, who greeted the Oswald family when they arrived in New York City from the USSR in 1962.

The 1955 memo mentions that Hoke, Bielefeldt and the aforementioned Dr. Richard Jenkins were all Stanford graduates. Hoke has been described as “a very brilliant person who is not very stable but who is very creative.”

The focus of the 1955 meeting was about Paul and Violet Orr. Both were Communist Party members in the San Francisco Bay Area. Paul had just been harshly interrogated by HUAC earlier that year. Violet had worked in the 1930s in the CP-friendly American League Against War and Fascism, just as Harvey’s informant Elizabeth Bentley had done....


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I don't think it matters whether it was the bullet or rib fragments which caused the bulge in the jacket. The point is I don't believe that bulge would happened simultaneous with the bullet exiting. As I said before, slow motion footage I've seen of objects being shot by rifle bullets always show the debris following behind the bullet, not pushed out in front of it. That's why I think it is significant to know at what frame the bullet entered the jacket to determine how much if any lag time there would be between the bullet passing through JBC's body and the movement of the jacket. I seem to recall in another thread someone saying Lattimer had determined the bullet passed through JBC before Z224 but I can't recall how many frames before nor can I find that thread where that observation was made.

What source have you used to show Lattimer's research on this matter.
Re bullet vs. rib fragments/tissue: The bullet hole in JBC's jacket is too low, too small to cause the bulge and lapel flip.

This *by itself* proves nothing but combined with the other evidence and other explanations supports the SBT.

Here is the Lattimer piece: https://dn710700.ca.archive.org/0/items/nsia-LattimerJohnKDr/nsia-LattimerJohnKDr/Lattimer%20John%20K%20Dr%20109.pdf

Fred Litwin goes this more here: https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/dr-cyril-wecht-and-governor-connally-s-coat-bulge
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DPD officer Stavis Ellis actually put a pencil through the hole to confirm it was a hole.

Stavis Ellis doesn't say that in this YouTube video.


He says, "You could put a pencil through it."

Unless you can provide us with a quote in which he says he or Chaney actually put a pencil through it, you're a liar.

It seems to me that you lie a lot.
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Seriously? Well, this is a first. You're the first person I've ever encountered who has disputed the windshield damage visible in Altgens 6.

Are you for real? No one has ever disputed that the windshield was damaged, but is the damage visible in Altgens 6? Undisputedly? Your (w)hole argument depends on it, so I was hoping that it wouldn't be too inconvenient for you to actually show us.
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Show us the damage that is "undisputedly" visible in Altgens 6.

   MARK -  I agree. This "undisputedly" stuff with respect to Altgens 6 and possible windshield damage is pure  BS: Thanks for maintaining a "standard of proof" around here.
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"Priscilla may have been an evil, evil CIA agent." (paraphrased)

Priscilla Johnson checked in with CIA SR/10 "Legal Travelers" Chief, Army MAJOR Alexander "Sasha" Sogolow, in Frankfurt while on her way to, or coming home from, Moscow in 1956.

Sogolow was the KGB mole whom false defector Yuri Nosenko kinda alluded to when he told Tennent H. Bagley and (probable mole) George Kisevalter in Geneva in January-February 1964 that there was an Army CAPTAIN in West Germany who was spying for the KGB, and he was the CIA boss of Igor Orlov/ Alexander "Sasha" Kopatzky, aka Anatoly Golitsyn's mole, SASHA, in Germany.

Bagley says in his 2007 book, "Spy Wars" (which you can read for free by googling "spy wars" and "archive" simultaneously), that the CIA didn't follow up on this "lead" because U.S. Army Captains in Germany were a-dime-a-dozen.

We learn from Newton S. Miler in David Wise's book, "Molehunt," that Sogolow confessed in the 1960s, wasn't prosecuted, and was "played back" against the KGB for a few years.

Igor Orlov/Alexander Kopatzky was "uncovered" by probable mole Bruce Solie in 1966, five years after Orlov had retired from the CIA, and did so based on a "tip" from Kremlin-loyal triple agent Igor Kochnov (KITTY HAWK). Look him up. He's the guy whose mother-in-law, Yekaterina Furtseva, allegedly overrode Nosenko and allowed Oswald to stay in the USSR.

I could go on and on, but that's enough for now.

Hopefully, one of these days you'll tell us about the man with the Slavic surname who was living with the Solie family on their dairy farm when future probable mole, Bruce, was an impressionable lad.
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MG: A Dallas police officer actually put a pencil through the hole to confirm it was a hole.

TG: Who was that?

DPD officer Stavis Ellis.


Show us the damage that is "undisputedly" visible in Altgens 6.

Seriously? Well, this is a first. You're the first person I've ever encountered who has disputed the windshield damage visible in Altgens 6.

Folks, again, the link for Weldon's chapter on the hole in the limo's windshield has been fixed. I had the wrong link in the first version of the OP.  Here it is again:

"The Kennedy Limousine: Dallas 1963"

But I repeat that this thread is not intended to debate the evidence of a hole in the windshield but to show that the lone-gunman theory cannot explain the windshield damage seen in Altgens 6 and in the Zapruder film.

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Glanges was pretty sure it was a through and through bullet hole.

Covered up at the Rouge Plant 3 days later.

Of course.

The Rouge Plant was just another cog in Steve "I am a Leninist" Bannon's Deep State-Administrative State and/or Jimmy D'Eugenio's Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex that killed JFK and Jimi Hendrix, too!!!
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AP photographer James Altgens took a photograph that destroys the lone-gunman theory: Altgens 6. Everyone agrees that Altgens 6 was taken at right around Z255.

Here's the unsolvable problem that Altgens 6 poses for the lone-gunman theory: It shows damage to the windshield of JFK's limousine. Nobody disputes this fact. The Warren Commission (WC) admitted that the alleged magic bullet of the single-bullet theory (SBT) could not have caused the windshield damage. The WC assumed the damage was caused by a fragment from the head shot. However, the head shot did not occur until Z313.

As an important side note, I should mention that there is strong, mutually corroborating evidence that there was a hole in the windshield. At least eight witnesses in three different locations independently reported that they saw a hole in the windshield. One of the witnesses, a Dallas police officer, actually put a pencil through the hole to confirm it was a hole. Several of the witnesses said the hole appeared to have been made by a bullet that hit from the front. For more information on this evidence, see Doug Weldon's chapter in Murder in Dealey Plaza:

"The Kennedy Limousine: Dallas 1963"

See also Dr. David Mantik's chapter titled "The Frontal Shot Through the Limousine Windshield" in his 2024 book The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis (chapter 5).

I am not here to argue over the evidence of a windshield hole. My main point is that regardless of whether the windshield damage was just cracks or was a hole and some cracks, the lone-gunman theory has no plausible explanation for the damage.

WC apologists and mortal-error theorists who acknowledge that a bullet hit the pavement behind the limousine early in the shooting may suggest that a fragment from this bullet hit the windshield. However, this is problematic for a number of reasons.

The windshield damage was 4-6 inches to the left of the rearview mirror (viewing from the back of the limo to the front). In order to hit the windshield at this location, a fragment from the pavement bullet would have had to first miss the riding handles on the back of the limo, then miss JFK and Jackie Kennedy, then miss John and Nellie Connally, and then miss the driver, William Greer.

Furthermore, in the MPI large-format transparencies of the Zapruder film, the windshield damage first appears in Z193 and is plainly visible again from Z215 to Z232 (David Mantik, The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis, 2024, pp. 289-291). But the pavement strike occurred well before Z193 -- in fact, it occurred before Z166 (even according to Gerald Posner).

If a fragment had hit the windshield hard enough to crack it so early in the shooting, surely the driver would have noticed it and would have visibly reacted, since no other shots had been fired yet.

But, if the windshield was hit at around Z190, after at least one shot had already been fired, the driver, now nervous and distracted by having heard a rifle shot, may not have noticed the windshield hit, especially if a high-velocity bullet penetrated the windshield from the front.

Clearly, a windshield hit at Z190 could not have been done by a bullet fired from the sixth-floor window, even if we assume the windshield was hit from behind. Clearly, no fragment from the head shot could have caused the windshield damage, since the head shot occurred at Z313. And clearly, no fragment from the Z133-166 pavement bullet could have caused the windshield damage (indeed, WC apologists already have that bullet magically sending a large fragment streaking toward the curb near James Tague over 400 feet away).

The link for Weldon's chapter on the hole in the windshield has been fixed. Sorry about that.


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Charlie Kirk was a high-profile target and presumably would raise Tyler Robinson's standing in the weird but dangerous woke community he was part of.

What's your general definition of "woke"?
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