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A bullet entering at C7 would have struck barely level with or slightly below the throat wound. A bullet entering at T1 would have struck at least 1/3 of an inch below the throat wound,

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Question: What do John Armstrong, Brian Doyle, Jimmy DiEugenio, Bart Kamp, Comrade Griffith, Stormtrooper Storing & danny BOY o'meara, et al. ad nauseam, all have in common?

Answer: "Former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin cherishes them all!
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MTG raises a reasonable question.

In the WC-SBT-LNT-HSCA narrative, LHO's first shot missed not only JFK, but the entire limo, despite the fact LHO's  angle was down into the limo, and the limo was closer.

Then somehow that missed shot, despite a relatively steep angle, somehow fractured the FMJ and the lead core squirted out and struck the curb by the relatively distant Tague, with enough force to send concrete up into Tague's face to deliver visible cuts. 

I have reasonable doubts about the above scenario.

Tague was unsure of when he was struck.

The HSCA, the second official investigation, concluded there had been a gunsel on the GK.

It may the the GK gunsel knew he had little chance of accurately shooting at JFK with a snubnose .38, and only acted as a diversion. He shot in front of the limo by a wide margin, and towards an area did not not observe bystanders (although he was hurried and did not see Tague). 

The diversion worked well, splitting up manpower, and allowing LHO and another perp to more easily leave the TSBD.

I have reasonable doubts about you, dude.
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Your clumsy accusations against Garrison aren't working Graves...Shaw was the only American allowed in to British Intelligence during World War II...This background is what led him in to CIA and involvement in the main Kennedy Assassination underground in New Orleans...I have my battles with Jim DiEugenio, mostly because of DiEugenio's rank dishonesty, however Jim did expose Shaw's trip to California at the time of the assassination in his second book that I bought and read...That showed involvement and pre-knowledge...Permindex was basically the Italian World Trade Mart like the New Orleans one that was a front for Shaw's CIA activity...I believe you are using exaggerated accusations of KGB involvement as a cover to account for your denial of the good conspiracy evidence...Apologizing for CIA, with all the evidence out there for their involvement, is hubris in my opinion...

You're so full of snit (rhymes with "xxxx"), I can smell you from here, Doyle.

ME: Is it true that Clay Shaw was the only American allowed into British Intelligence during World War II?

Google AI: No, that’s not true.

Background on Clay Shaw

• Military Service: Clay Shaw served in the U.S. Army during World War II, reaching the rank of major and working as an aide-de-camp for the invasion supply base in England. [1, 2]

• Intelligence Contact: Thousands of American military personnel and intelligence officers coordinated closely with British intelligence (such as SIS/MI6 or SOE) during World War II.

• Notoriety: Shaw is famous for being tried and acquitted for a role in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, not for being a singular American inside British intelligence. [1]


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MTG raises a reasonable question.

In the WC-SBT-LNT-HSCA narrative, LHO's first shot missed not only JFK, but the entire limo, despite the fact LHO's  angle was down into the limo, and the limo was closer.

Then somehow that missed shot, despite a relatively steep angle, somehow fractured the FMJ and the lead core squirted out and struck the curb by the relatively distant Tague, with enough force to send concrete up into Tague's face to deliver visible cuts. 

I have reasonable doubts about the above scenario.

Tague was unsure of when he was struck.

The HSCA, the second official investigation, concluded there had been a gunsel on the GK.

It may the the GK gunsel knew he had little chance of accurately shooting at JFK with a snubnose .38, and only acted as a diversion. He shot in front of the limo by a wide margin, and towards an area did not not observe bystanders (although he was hurried and did not see Tague). 

The diversion worked well, splitting up manpower, and allowing LHO and another perp to more easily leave the TSBD.

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Well the east elevator was on the ground floor when James Jarman and Harold Norman returned into TSBD on the 1st floor from the rear loading dock door at approximately 12:23.

If Givens story is fabricated, then Oswald could be the last one who used the east elevator at 12:00.

And where was Dougherty at this time between 11:45 and 12:30. Was not he supposedly on the 5th floor the whole time. He did not see Oswald at all? He didn’t see or hear Givens going up on the east elevator passing by the 5th floor ? He did not see or hear Williams west elevator go past the 5th floor. He did not hear or see Harold Norman and James Jarman getting off the east elevator onto the 5th floor at 12:23? He did not hear or see Bonnie Ray Williams bring the west elevator down from 6th floor to 5th floor about 12:24, did not see BRW exit the elevator and walk across the floor to join Norman and Jarman at their windows?
Dougherty on the 5th floor ( and briefly on the 6th floor ) during the period from 11:45 till 12:30
missed all this activity of  going and coming of people, he missed seeing/  hearing Oswald shout to send the elevator back up, missed seeing the elevator race, missed hearing Truly shout up for the elevator and although Dougherty was on the same 5th floor with Norman, he heard only ONE loud noise when the shooting began.

It’s seems improbable. Dougherty must have been hiding somewhere ( like the 7th floor ? ) and was completely asleep to have missed so much.

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BD-

If you wish to state that Israel and the US are allies, and their intel agencies work together (as the CIA works with intel agencies of other allied nations), that is fine.

To compulsively repeat mendacious canards that Mossad was behind the JFKA and Watergate, 9/11, the RFKA, and intentionally attacked to USS Liberty...is unadorned crackpotism.

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Why do you accept that Givens went back up to the 6th floor?
Don't you think his observation of the prime suspect for the assassination of the President at the location from where the shots were taken would have come to light during his extensive questioning by Fritz and the FBI?
Do you think this observation is trivial and not really worth mentioning?

Why wouldn't I accept it? Givens said that he saw Oswald on the 6th floor at about 11:55 AM. So what?
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If I didn't understand the meaning of the word I wouldn't have used it.

The SBT is rock solid. Those who argue against it do so out of ignorance or dishonesty. Or just plain old stupidity. I'm not comfortable applying any of those three to Andrew Mason though. He has spent so much time and effort over the years building and defending his theory, that he just cannot bring himself to admit to himself that he's wrong.

On edit: some argue against the SBT because they just like to argue.

I do accept that Givens went back up to the 6th floor. I wouldn't care if he had not.  It's not important that he did.

Why do you accept that Givens went back up to the 6th floor?
Don't you think his observation of the prime suspect for the assassination of the President at the location from where the shots were taken would have come to light during his extensive questioning by Fritz and the FBI?
Do you think this observation is trivial and not really worth mentioning?
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Back to the topic of Givens … from what I’ve read of Givens vs Bonnie Ray Williams WC testimony, Givens used the EAST elevator while Williams used the WEST elevator. Givens took the East elevator from
the 6th floor at about 5 minutes to 12:00
back down to  the 1st floor and he saw that the west elevator was not there on the 1st floor.

Williams said he used the West elevator to go to 6th floor about 12:00. So unless somebody else used the West elevator between Givens and Williams, then Williams was going up in the West elevator when Givens was coming down!  ???

Of Givens account is true, and Williams account is true, then Oswald still on the 6th floor at 5 minutes till
12:00 had TWO opportunities to have gone down to the 1st floor riding either with Givens or using the West elevator just a mere 30 secs later when Williams arrived to the 6th floor.

So IF Givens 5min till 12:00 East elevator trip to the 6th floor is true and he saw Oswald there  and IF Bonnie Ray Williams 12:00 West elevator ride to 6th floor is true an BRW did NOT see Oswald there, and IF it’s true that Eddie Piper saw Oswald on the 1st floor at 12:00, then it is an extremely high probability that Oswald used the stairs to get down to meet Piper at 12:00.

So this leads to question why would Oswald turn down 2 opportunities to ride on an elevator down to the 1st floor, electing instead to trek down 6 flights of 18 step staircases and 120 ft of floor landings? Did Oswald like exercising that much? Or did as he trying out the stairs for some other reason?

Oswald was trying to get down to the first floor while the elevator race was on.
Both elevators were now on the first floor.
Givens never went back up to the 6th floor.
Williams took a few minutes to clean up, collect his lunch and buy a bottle of Dr. Pepper before returning to the 6th floor. He could have been on the 6th floor as early as 11:55am.
Oswald was seen on the first floor by Piper around 12 noon which means he did make his way down from the 5th floor. He either called up an elevator and rode it down or, if the gate had not been put down, he had to get down using the stairs.

The point is that the Givens story about going back up to the 6th and seeing Oswald near the southeast corner was a total fabrication.
We know from the testimonies of Lovelady, Williams and Arce that Oswald wanted to get down to the first floor.
We know from the testimony of Piper that he did make it down to the first floor.,
But all this testimony was deliberately omitted in favour of the fake Givens story which gave the impression that Oswald was last seen on the 6th floor near the location from which the shooting had taken place when, in fact, he was last seen on the first floor around 12 noon.

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