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Yes, Dr. Young was mistaken about the nickname of JFK's limo, probably because the nickname "Queen Mary" was the nickname of the limos used by the previous three presidents (Ike, Truman, and FDR). An innocent, meaningless mistake.

You're not suggesting that because Dr. Young used the wrong nickname to refer to JFK's limo that this somehow invalidates his account, are you?
Since none of it appears to be based on first-hand knowledge and none is corroborated by other independent evidence, I am not sure what his account is or what could conceivably validate his account.
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Just so no one is confused: SA Sam Kinney was driving the Queen Mary.  SA William Greer was driving the President's car. There were no bullets or bullet fragments found in the Queen Mary.

Yes, Dr. Young was mistaken about the nickname of JFK's limo, probably because the nickname "Queen Mary" was the nickname of the limos used by the previous three presidents (Ike, Truman, and FDR). An innocent, meaningless mistake.

You're not suggesting that because Dr. Young used the wrong nickname to refer to JFK's limo that this somehow invalidates his account, are you?
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Why?

When reported or observed

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Head shot fragments hit JCs upheld wrist, AKA top of wrist. Nelly said she thought the third shot is the one that hit his wrist. Head fragment removes a possibility of slug shedding tiny fragments within the skull.
What is your source for saying that Nellie "said she thought the third shot is the one that hit his wrist"?
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Well, it's an interesting commentary and there's no question, well there's no question in my mind but the President was shot from behind. . . .

And, of course, the thing that I've said in here about Bill Greer, who was driving the Queen Mary was that [he] had brain tissue and blood spattered over his right posterior shoulder. Which, in my estimation could only have made that bullet come from behind, not from the grassy knoll, not from the side, not from the air or whatever. It had to come from behind and spray forward onto his right shoulder. ("Oral History with CAPT (ret) James Morningstar Young, MC, USN," Interview 3, pp. 54-55)

Just so no one is confused: SA Sam Kinney was driving the Queen Mary.  SA William Greer was driving the President's car. There were no bullets or bullet fragments found in the Queen Mary.
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As part of an ongoing project testing the forensic/ballistic elements of the assassination. I’ve done extensive and redundant ballistic testing, trajectory analysis and forensic reconstructions. To test the head shot trajectory and fragmentation pattern, I shot three intact pig’s heads.  I had pre and post X-rays taken.  Using surplus 6.5 Carcano on one of the heads, the shot did not explode the head and left a relatively small exit hole (8-9mm) with minor skull fracturing.  A witness panel 2 feet behind the head revealed only a slight yaw and the x-ray showed no fragmentation/jacket separation.  The maintained its trajectory through the skull into the witness panel.

Yes, this is always how FMJ bullets behave when they hit skull bone. They will never shatter into dozens of tiny fragments, much less do so and then also shear off fragments at the entry site. This has been confirmed in numerous wound-ballistics tests.

Then using .257 Roberts with a thin jacketed sierra matchking projectile at 3300 fps, it took out the occipital skull and most of the brain with it.  It left the characteristic lead snowstorm on the x-ray and the smallest of fragments on the witness panel.

Yes, indeed. The ammo that hit JFK's head behaved in a very similar manner, i.e., like high-velocity frangible ammo.   

I was a little uncertain as to the cortical thickness of the skull so I did a separate test shooting a 7 mm thick pork shoulder blade embedded on one end of a 8 inch ballistic gel block and pork ribs on the other end. The Carcano round made a 6 mm round hole in the shoulder blade, cut a straight path through the ballistic gel, and clipped the edge of one if the ribs leaving a perfect semi circle. The witness panel again showed a slight yaw and no fragmentation/jacket separation whatsoever with no deviation in trajectory.

In contrast, the non-fatal bullet that hit Governor Connally left fragments in his chest, wrist, and thigh, and it also veered leftward and downward.

I’ve long been skeptical of the trajectories of CE 567 and 569, so that was the purpose of the test—but I couldn’t get the Carcano jacket to shear.

Yes, forensic literature indicates that the only time an FMJ bullet may shear off its jacket is if it is fired from a very short distance from a high-velocity rifle and does not have time to stabilize its flight.

Thank you for sharing this interesting information.

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Kennedy and Nixon
« Last post by Steve M. Galbraith on Today at 06:57:04 PM »
Interesting story from Robert Dallek's book (it's an example, one of many, of why the liberal wing of the Democratic Party opposed JFK's candidacy):

"At a Harvard Spee Club dinner in February 1952, when a speaker praised the university for never having produced an Alger Hiss [Hiss did go to Harvard Law], a former State Department official under suspicion of spying for Moscow, or a Joe McCarthy, Jack uncharacteristically made a public scene, angrily saying, “How dare you couple the name of a great American patriot [McCarthy] with that of a traitor [Hiss]!” Jack was just as sympathetic to Richard Nixon, with whom he had established a measure of personal rapport during their service in the House. He openly declared himself pleased that Nixon, a tough anticommunist, had beaten liberal Democrat Helen Gahagan Douglas in a 1950 California Senate race, and he had no complaints about Nixon’s depiction of Douglas as a “fellow traveler” or the “Pink Lady."

McCarthy is a patriot and Hiss is a traitor. I'm sure that went over just swell with the liberals.

JFK was an anti-communist. Sure his anti-communism in 1963 was of a different kind than it was in 1952 (he wouldn't have defended McCarthy in '63). But it fundamentally was the same. And it was certainly closer to Nixon's views on the Cold War than those of Ted Kennedys. This portrayal of JFK by the conspiracists as some sort of dove, as someone opposed to containment is just nonsense. It's all made up. But they have to create a fantasy JFK in order for their conspiracy to work. If the "national security state" killed JFK they had to have a reason for doing so. An important one. And that reason for conspiracists is that he was threatening their power and position, he was going to end the Cold War and expose their lies and deceit. Well, that's just completely made up.

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Joe Smith, not Hill. Witness Malcom Summers also saw that agent. Smith were guarding the TSBD entrance a few minutes later with his colleague W.E. Barnett who told a researcher friend of mine that Smith's story was BS.
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Yes, exactly.

Notice he still has not explained what else could have hit the grass in such a way as to make Officer Foster feel certain that a bullet had hit the grass.

Of course, to believe his lame denial, we'd have to believe that Lt. Day merely repeated what he'd heard, that the police inspector who talked with Dudman merely repeated what he'd heard, and that Walters' wife was lying when she said her husband told her they found a bullet in the grass.

And I guess we're supposed to believe that it means nothing that photos show that the man in the suit leaned down, put his hand in the hole, brought his hand upward with the hand cupped, and then put his hand in his pocket.

very good.
When did Mrs Walthers make her statement about it?
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