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Anna Lewis is the problem with Baker...Lewis was certain that Judyth associated with Oswald in the early spring of 1962...Like March or April...Since the Oswald who was arrested for killing Kennedy did not return from Russia until June 1962 that means Judyth had to know the southern Oswald (Lee)...This makes Judyth's claim that Oswald spoke Russian to her in the line at the Post Office problematic since Lee spoke no Russian...The Oswald who was arrested for killing Kennedy spoke Russian...So the problem here is if Judyth was telling the truth then she very much would have noticed the difference between Lee and Harvey...It could be that Baker is Deep and is not divulging a serious CIA secret...But never the less her refusing to sort this out does not bode well for her credibility...When caught Baker did her usual trying too hard to make up excuses around it routine...Baker tried to lie and push it back to fall that year...But Lewis refused to go along and insisted it was early spring (which it was)...

Baker's next bugaboo was her claim that she and Oswald intended to take a moonlight overnight hike from Cancun to Chichen Itza...When I nailed her on the fact that Chichen Itza was a hard 5 day jungle hike she went in to her making it up as she goes along routine and changed it to taking an overnight bus...She then spent way too many words trying to correct this obvious lie...Baker is full of it and obviously making it up as she goes along...Whether she knew Oswald in New Orleans as part of her CIA Oschner work is another question but she is definitely a disinformation mud-pumper...

As close as she allegedly was to Oswald she would not be able to avoid knowledge of Harvey & Lee...

The Cancun story alone tells us all we need to know about JVB. Cancun wasn't developed as a tourist destination until 1970. Before that it had been a plantation with a handful of people living on it. I guess JVB was unaware of that when she made up her  BS: story.
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Dr. Donald Thomas's analysis of the bullet that hit the grass near the manhole cover is worth quoting at length:

Without asking Foster what spurred him to look for a bullet, or why he searched where he did, Counsel Joseph Ball queried in an offhanded aside, "Find anything?" To which Foster responded,

"Yes, sir. Found where one shot had hit the turf there at the location."

There then followed a somewhat convoluted account in which Foster variously declared that the bullet had hit a manhole cover, that it had ricocheted off the pavement surrounding the manhole cover, or that directly or indirectly, it had wound up in the turf. Foster allowed that he had not actually found a bullet but he did call the crime scene unit's attention to the spot. Predictably, the Warren Commission took no further interest in Foster's testimony. That is to say, neither the crime scene unit, or Foster's partner J.C. White, who was with Foster on the Triple Underpass, were asked about the incident.

As it happens, Dallas Times Herald reporters interviewed crime scene detective Carl Day about the incident on the day after the assassination. In these early days before gag orders had been issued, Day told reporters that he had measured the distance from the sixth floor window to the spot where the bullet had been recovered in the turf at 100 yards!

The Saturday edition of the Fort Worth Star Telegram published a photograph of the turf next to the manhole cover with the caption,

"Assassin's Bullet - One of the rifle bullets fired by the murderer of President Kennedy lies in the grass across Elm Street from the building in which the killer was hiding and from where he launched his assault."

Harry Cabluck, the news photographer who took the picture, told researcher Jim Marrs that he did not actually see the bullet but was told by someone that a bullet had struck the grass at this spot.

There were other contemporary reports. St. Louis Dispatch journalist Richard Dudman was among the witnesses in Dealey Plaza. His firsthand report states,

"A group of police officers were examining the area at the side of the street where the President was hit, and a police inspector told me they had just found another bullet in the grass."

The FBI also learned of the incident. Witness Jean Lois Hill was interviewed by agents at the Sheriffs headquarters that afternoon. Learning that she had been standing on the Dealey Plaza lawn, they asked her if she had seen a bullet hit the grass (she had not). Another witness, Hugh Betzner, told Dallas agents that he had seen police digging for a bullet in the lawn.

Researcher Jim Marrs located and interviewed two other witnesses mentioned in the FBI report: Wayne and Edna Hartman told the FBI that they had seen the ground mounded up and asked the policemen if it was the work of moles. They were told that bullets had struck the ground. Nor was Foster the only person to see the initial strike. Richard Randolph Carr testified that one shot "knocked a bunch of grass up."


Now this is very interesting, and telling: so two other people noticed that the spot of grass near the manhole cover was "mounded up," and one other person saw a bullet knock "a bunch of grass up" near the manhole cover, just as Officer Foster saw and immediately reported.

Let's continue with Dr. Thomas's analysis:

The factor which lends weight to these accounts is that the whole incident was recorded in photographs taken by Black Star photographer, Jim Murray. With the Texas School Book Depository as a backdrop, and the Hertz clock on the roof reading 12:40, patrolman Foster can be seen with other officers hovering over the manhole cover on the south side of Elm Street (Fig. 11.4). In the series of photographs a sandy-haired man with a side-wall hair cut and a dark gray suit is seen bent over and probing the turf with his left hand. He rises with his left hand making a fist--seeming to clutch something--then in the next picture his hand is stuffed deep into his left side pants pocket.

The man in the pictures was later identified by police chief Jesse Curry as an FBI agent. Yet, he has never been officially identified. Prominent in the photographs, wearing a black suit, is Deputy Sheriff Ed "Buddy" Walthers. Just before testifying to the Warren Commission, the Commission's counsel exchanged an internal memorandum containing a statement concerning Walthers and the incident.

"At one time Walthers was quoted as having found a bullet, but he seems to have backed away from this position."

This memorandum suggests that the Commission was in receipt of a report or document quoting Walthers as having found a bullet and/or subsequently retracting. No such reports or documents are now present in the Archives. In subsequent years Walthers' wife Dorothy told researcher Mark Oakes (who told this writer) that her late husband had told her they had indeed found a bullet in the grass. (Hear No Evil, Mary Ferrell Foundation Press, 2010, pp. 400-401)
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Much ado about nothing.

That pretty much describes the nearly 63 year long snipe hunt the conspiracy hobbyists have been on. And what do they have to show for their efforts? A hole in the ground.
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I recently made a short video exploring an unusual connection between Lee Harvey Oswald and Jackie Kennedy and presenting a different interpretation of the Kennedy story.

I’m posting it here because this forum has people who have studied the assassination extensively, and I’d be very interested in hearing your thoughts and reactions.

Here is the video:


I’m particularly interested in whether anyone has encountered this particular interpretation before.
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It is spelled out in DiEugenio and Douglass that the Diems were risking losing the Buddhists...The rift over that would risk dividing the population against the South Vietnamese government...

Diem wasn't killed by Kennedy...He was killed by Lodge and the CIA as a regime change operation designed to place compliant leadership in Viet Nam...
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Dr. Donald Thomas's analysis of the bullet that hit the grass near the manhole cover is worth quoting at length:

Without asking Foster what spurred him to look for a bullet, or why he searched where he did, Counsel Joseph Ball queried in an offhanded aside, "Find anything?" To which Foster responded,

"Yes, sir. Found where one shot had hit the turf there at the location."

There then followed a somewhat convoluted account in which Foster variously declared that the bullet had hit a manhole cover, that it had ricocheted off the pavement surrounding the manhole cover, or that directly or indirectly, it had wound up in the turf. Foster allowed that he had not actually found a bullet but he did call the crime scene unit's attention to the spot. Predictably, the Warren Commission took no further interest in Foster's testimony. That is to say, neither the crime scene unit, or Foster's partner J.C. White, who was with Foster on the Triple Underpass, were asked about the incident.

As it happens, Dallas Times Herald reporters interviewed crime scene detective Carl Day about the incident on the day after the assassination. In these early days before gag orders had been issued, Day told reporters that he had measured the distance from the sixth floor window to the spot where the bullet had been recovered in the turf at 100 yards!

The Saturday edition of the Fort Worth Star Telegram published a photograph of the turf next to the manhole cover with the caption,

"Assassin's Bullet - One of the rifle bullets fired by the murderer of President Kennedy lies in the grass across Elm Street from the building in which the killer was hiding and from where he launched his assault."

Harry Cabluck, the news photographer who took the picture, told researcher Jim Marrs that he did not actually see the bullet but was told by someone that a bullet had struck the grass at this spot.

There were other contemporary reports. St. Louis Dispatch journalist Richard Dudman was among the witnesses in Dealey Plaza. His firsthand report states,

"A group of police officers were examining the area at the side of the street where the President was hit, and a police inspector told me they had just found another bullet in the grass."

The FBI also learned of the incident. Witness Jean Lois Hill was interviewed by agents at the Sheriffs headquarters that afternoon. Learning that she had been standing on the Dealey Plaza lawn, they asked her if she had seen a bullet hit the grass (she had not). Another witness, Hugh Betzner, told Dallas agents that he had seen police digging for a bullet in the lawn.

Researcher Jim Marrs located and interviewed two other witnesses mentioned in the FBI report: Wayne and Edna Hartman told the FBI that they had seen the ground mounded up and asked the policemen if it was the work of moles. They were told that bullets had struck the ground. Nor was Foster the only person to see the initial strike. Richard Randolph Carr testified that one shot "knocked a bunch of grass up."


Now this is very interesting, and telling: so two other people noticed that the spot of grass near the manhole cover was "mounded up," and one other person saw a bullet knock "a bunch of grass up" near the manhole cover, just as Officer Foster saw and immediately reported.

Let's continue with Dr. Thomas's analysis:

The factor which lends weight to these accounts is that the whole incident was recorded in photographs taken by Black Star photographer, Jim Murray. With the Texas School Book Depository as a backdrop, and the Hertz clock on the roof reading 12:40, patrolman Foster can be seen with other officers hovering over the manhole cover on the south side of Elm Street (Fig. 11.4). In the series of photographs a sandy-haired man with a side-wall hair cut and a dark gray suit is seen bent over and probing the turf with his left hand. He rises with his left hand making a fist--seeming to clutch something--then in the next picture his hand is stuffed deep into his left side pants pocket.

The man in the pictures was later identified by police chief Jesse Curry as an FBI agent. Yet, he has never been officially identified. Prominent in the photographs, wearing a black suit, is Deputy Sheriff Ed "Buddy" Walthers. Just before testifying to the Warren Commission, the Commission's counsel exchanged an internal memorandum containing a statement concerning Walthers and the incident.

"At one time Walthers was quoted as having found a bullet, but he seems to have backed away from this position."

This memorandum suggests that the Commission was in receipt of a report or document quoting Walthers as having found a bullet and/or subsequently retracting. No such reports or documents are now present in the Archives. In subsequent years Walthers' wife Dorothy told researcher Mark Oakes (who told this writer) that her late husband had told her they had indeed found a bullet in the grass. (Hear No Evil, Mary Ferrell Foundation Press, 2010, pp. 400-401)
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You do know that if anyone tries to hurt you, you could follow the Oswald method and buy a gun, right? Or do you live in a state where that's a bit hard?
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SMG--

Thanks for posting. BTW, there are clips of RFK in 1967 backing US actions in SV, which by them were much enlarged.

JFK was an ardent and global anti-communist. So was RFK.

The idea that some group would assassinate JFK for his unclear plans on Vietnam in 1963 is very weak. LBJ was also unclear on what to do in 1964.

There was a great deal of animosity in the Cuban exile crowd towards JFK, and, of course, Castro had been the target of multiple assassinations attempts during the JFK years.

President LBJ put the kibosh on following any leads from LHO back to Havana or Moscow.
Round and round we go on this while those that insist he was going to unconditionally leave - not try to negotiate first? just surrender? - ignore it all. They simply can't give up the Camelot myth, the view of JFK as some sort of historic peace maker who was going to end the Cold War (they don't think the communists were responsible for the conflict; only the US). And it was for that that he was killed.

The RFK comments on the war and what JFK's plan was are additional evidence. Not that it's needed. If JFK was going to withdraw wouldn't he have told RFK? But RFK said there was no plan in place to unconditionally withdraw at that time. The idea was to keep South Vietnam from being taken over by the communists, i.e., containment. They thought in 1963 they could still achieve that goal. It was why JFK supported the coup; to put a better (he thought) government in place that could in turn better defend Saigon from the communists. Why go all of that coup intrigue if we have going to leave anyway? Besides, wouldn't JFK at least tried to negotiate with Hanoi over this? Get something in return? The idea that he would simply unilaterally leave, essentially surrender to the communists, is silly.

Remember as well that during RFK's presidential campaign when he turned against the war, a war waged by a man he utterly detested, RFK never said, "This is not what President Kennedy wanted to do. Johnson is going against what he wanted." If JFK had decided to withdraw I would suggest that RFK would have used that against LBJ, used the words of the martyred president against Johnson. As we all know, RFK and LBJ hated each other intensely. Using JFK to go after LBJ would have been irresistible.

As to LBJ and any foreign government involvement leads: We've gone over this again and again. Sorry, I see no evidence for that. Who said LBJ ordered this shutdown? Besides, the HSCA investigated the assassination and they found no evidence of Cuban or Soviet involvement. So who told the HSCA to not look into them? LBJ was dead at the time.

From the report:

1.  The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that the Soviet Government was not involved in the assassination of President Kennedy.
2.  The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that the Cuban Government was not involved in the assassination of President Kennedy
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Okay, ignore the WC on this question. What about the other investigations?

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Hey here’s the press conference, Albert, I found it for you.  You’re welcome.
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yes, Albert…….  you should contact Judyth to find out which ‘Lee’ was in ‘Me’, I mean, her, uh, no, wait………
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There was one time i tried to convert JFK Reloaded's game assets to Source Engine format to run on Garry's Mod. But i was unfamiliar with it and failed. However, once i have enough money or something, i could commission someone to do a Dealey Plaza map for Garry's Mod, but very unlikely.
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