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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Education Forum Moderated by Anti-Semitic Crackpot---John Simkin is Aware
« Last post by Bill Brown on Today at 04:40:38 AM »
Over on the Ed Forum, Niederhut called me a "fan of Greg Doudna" (who believes Larry Crafard killed Tippit) and stated that I looked like one of the Road Warriors from the Mad Max movie.

I simply responded with one sentence, saying that he was confused.  I said nothing more, nothing less.

Even though he started it, he suspended me from posting over there for 4 months  LOL  The Mods are over there are clowns.  All of them.  W. Niederhut is a tinfoil hat wearing KOOK and it is clear and obvious.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gunman in the pergola window...
« Last post by Mitch Todd on Today at 03:24:03 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 11:40:11 PM
   For future reference, I consider The Knoll to be the grass (E) of The Steps/ in front of The Pergola. The Grassy Knoll = Between The Steps & The Triple Underpass.
You completely missed the point. As far as Witt's testimony is concerned, the only important definition of Grassy Knoll is whatever he thought it was..
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
« Last post by Mitch Todd on Today at 03:21:49 AM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Today at 02:10:42 AM
::) it was printed in the newspaper. lol
so what?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Today at 02:10:42 AM »
Quote from: Mitch Todd on Today at 12:53:38 AM
Nope. There never was a route with a direct Main-to-Stemmons turn. As I've said, the interchange to the Stemmons on ramp is designed to prevent westbound traffic on  Main from entering the ramp.

 ::) it was printed in the newspaper. lol
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: S. M. Holland's "Smoke" on the Grassy Knoll
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 01:10:40 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 09:28:12 PM
  Being in the lunchroom did Not make Oswald "look guilty". Like I said, I believe he was involved. As to his being a shooter, why use your own rifle, carry it across the 6th floor, and then hide it there? You believe he planned bringing the rifle to work, constructed the sniper's nest, fires the shots and then goes into scramble mode after that? This doesn't fit.

Of course it fits. It was the only option available to Oswald once he made the decision to kill JFK. We'll never know why he made that decision but we know that he did. It isn't necessary to know why. It was a crime of opportunity. Oswald was dealt a golden opportunity to become infamous but his options were limited. He had to take the shot when it was presented to him using the only tools he had. He smuggled the rifle into the TSBD. He could not have escaped the TSBD if he took his rifle with him. He had to leave it behind.

I'm not sure he even had to construct sniper's nest. A crew was laying a new floor and a lot of boxes had already been moved to the section of the 6th floor. He could have just used what was there or he could have built the wall of boxes himself. We don't know and we don't need to know. He really didn't need that wall of boxes because at the time of the shooting, he was the only one on the 6th floor. Bonnie Ray Williams had been on the floor a little earlier but he opted to join Jarman and Norman. Interesting to speculate what Oswald would have done had BRW remained on the sixth floor, but not terribly useful.

I keep asking you to present your evidence that Oswald knew something had gone wrong and you keep declining to do so. Why is that?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 01:08:05 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Today at 01:05:13 AM
You also have to move Lovelady and Shelley from their standing position in front of the TSBD. This is not all about Calvery. You are claiming three moving pieces and a conversation in only twenty seconds.
 

Dear Royell,

Perhaps you missed it:

1) If long-legged Gloria Calvery (who was standing to the immediate left of John Templin in the Zapruder film and who had just seen JFK's head get blown off) ran, how many seconds do you think it took her to reach "the island"?

2) Didn't Officer Baker listen to his radio and look down towards the Triple Underpass before he started running towards the TSBD steps?

3) Mark Tyler has Officer Baker running in front of your "Abandoned Getaway Car" about 27 seconds after the final shot.

https://www.marktyler.org/mc63.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawK4zONleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFFODdsRHVIa2RSUGZJNllFAR6Zx-0JB5zBmwy-qakJKtfLfY5vcW9V2IqOrNXjP-oezkHhb-av38NlRUa-uA_aem_2d95NRPz2dpt6k_03l7iYg

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 01:05:13 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 12:42:20 AM


   You also have to move Lovelady and Shelley from their standing position in front of the TSBD. This is Not all about Calvery. You are claiming 3 moving pieces + a conversation in only 20 seconds.
   Are you claiming that after hearing shots fired, Officer Baker then just stood there listening to his motorcycle radio? Seriously? 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
« Last post by Mitch Todd on Today at 12:53:38 AM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 10:34:13 PM
There most certainly was.
 Thumb1: Both were printed in the local papers
Nope. There never was a route with a direct Main-to-Stemmons turn. As I've said, the interchange to the Stemmons on ramp is designed to prevent westbound traffic on  Main from entering the ramp.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
« Last post by John Corbett on Today at 12:46:53 AM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Yesterday at 10:34:13 PM
There most certainly was.
 Thumb1: Both were printed in the local papers

The maps that didn't show the move from Main to Elm on Houston were simply not detailed enough. They gave a general idea of where the motorcade was going without the detail that ALL of the descriptions of the route contained.

The claim that the route was changed is a red herring. It was never intended to stay on Main to reach the Stemmons Freeway. If the motorcade was going to stay on Main, it would have had to bypass the Stemmons Freeway and go all the way to Industrial Parkway which could have taken them to the Trade Mart but that option would have made no sense as it would have been a longer and slower router. The Texas trip was on a tight schedule as they were  trying to jam as many appearances as possible into a tight time window.

Why do conspiracy hobbyists keep trying to make an issue of the motorcade route when it was the only one that made sense given the selection of the Trade Mart as the location for the luncheon.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 12:42:20 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 12:24:50 AM
Dear Royell,

Perhaps you missed it:

1) If long-legged Gloria Calvery (who was standing to the immediate left of John Templin in the Zapruder film and who had just seen JFK's head get blown off) ran, how many seconds do you think it took her to reach "the island"?

2) Didn't Officer Baker listen to his radio and look down towards the Triple Underpass before he started running towards the TSBD steps?

3) Mark Tyler has Officer Baker running in front of your "Abandoned Getaway Car" about 27 seconds after the final shot, more than enough time for Calvery to tell Shelley and/or Lovelady that JFK had been shot and more than enough time for Shelley and Lovelady to get as far down Elm Street Extension towards the railway yard / parking lot as we see them in Couch-Darnell.

https://www.marktyler.org/mc63.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawK4zONleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFFODdsRHVIa2RSUGZJNllFAR6Zx-0JB5zBmwy-qakJKtfLfY5vcW9V2IqOrNXjP-oezkHhb-av38NlRUa-uA_aem_2d95NRPz2dpt6k_03l7iYg

-- Tom
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