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On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 41, with Judge Burt Griffin 

It was a pleasure to talk with Judge Burt Griffin who served on the Warren Commission.


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Just a reminder that the only theory that WC apologists can offer to explain the throat wound's small size and entry-like appearance is the impossible shored-wound theory. We know from Humes' own notes that Dr. Perry told him the wound was only about 5 mm in diameter. In his 11/22/63 notes, Dr. Perry

You really show your ignorance with this one. The reason exit wounds are usually larger than entrance wounds is because lead bullets will deform when striking a body whether they hit bone or soft tissue. A deformed bullet will not make a nice neat round exit wound. Oswald was firing a FMJ bullet. These bullets do not deform when striking soft tissue. They make the same size hole going out as they do coming in when they don't strike bone. Lead or lead nosed bullets are more common and an experienced ER doctor like Perry would have seen more exit wounds caused by soft lead bullets than FMJ bullets. It's amazing that somebody who has been at this as long as you have needs that explained to you.
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The Parkland doctors said the throat wound had “no jagged edges or stellate lacerations”  (6 WH 3), had “relatively smooth edges (6 WH 54), and was “rather clean” (3 WH 372).

In addition, two of the Parkland doctors seemed to indicate the wound had an abrasion collar; one of them specifically said it had bruising around its edges (7 HSCA 302; 6 WH 42). When Dr. Perry was interviewed by Harold Weisberg, he specified that the throat wound had an abrasion collar. Entry wounds usually have abrasion collars, while exit wounds usually do not.

Again, the only theory that WC defenders have offered to explain the throat wound's small size and entry-like appearance is the impossible shored-wound theory. Even today, some WC apologists still cite the theory to explain the throat wound, unaware the theory has been debunked.

You don't get to dictate what options WC defenders have. We get to decide that. The back wound was unquestionably an entrance wound. If the throat wound was also an entrance wound, there was no exit for either wound. That means there should have been two bullets in the body. There were none. These bullets apparently vanished inside JFK's body. That requires not one but two Magic Bullets.
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The worst evasion here is you avoiding answering how the man you are labeling Shelley has an obviously too stocky body to be Shelley...



He has the same body shape as Shelley and is wearing the same clothing - a baggy black suit with the trousers tight towards the bottom of the leg.
He even appears to have the same kind of hairstyle.
And the guy on the steps is wearing a plaid shirt. Molina was wearing a white shirt.
Molina specifically stated in his WC testimony that he never talked to a female on the steps (d'oh)
Molina testified that he spoke to Gloria in the lobby.

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I assume the 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy of Darnell is the best extant copy...It should therefore be obtained, scanned, and analyzed...It will show Joe Molina as being the man in front of Calvery on the steps...Molina said in testimony that after the shots he drifted in the direction of the Knoll on the top platform of the front steps and then descended the steps and headed to the Knoll...You are seeing him in that process in Couch/Darnell...Since their clothing indicates that the pair fast-walking up the extension are Lovelady & Shelley the man on the steps has to be Molina...We can see that most sources on both Greg Parker's site and The Education Forum claim the man on the steps is Lovelady...They are wrong...It is Molina...Throw in Stanton as Prayer Man and I am being disallowed membership by people who don't know how to do basic photo identification analysis...Parker and Kamp have seriously damaged good research...

.Parker and Kamp have seriously damaged good research...

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You are basing your identification of Shelley and Lovelady on Kamp's work!!
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Shelley was later found out by Dallas reporter Dean Glaze to be CIA...The conspirators needed Victoria Adams' claim discredited so they got Lovelady & Shelley to lie and say they left the steps 3 minutes after the shots...The Couch/Darnell Film is the reality and it shows Lovelady & Shelley leaving the steps in synchronicity with the testimonies of the other witnesses who said Lovelady & Shelley spoke to Calvery at the base of the steps and then went up to the Knoll...Couch/Darnell shows the reality of what happened and Lovelady & Shelley took off from the steps at around 20 seconds after the shots...The men are definitely Lovelady & Shelley because you can see their clothing on those men in the best resolution images...The two men are also exactly where Lovelady & Shelley would be according to the testimonies of others...

Adams & Styles bolted from the 4th Floor window and bolted down the NW staircase...They squeaked out the rear exit ahead of everyone and were not seen...

If Dougherty did go up to the 6th Floor right before the shooting he did so in a way where he saw Oswald in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room, just like Carolyn Arnold did, on his way...Truly defamed Dougherty as being retarded in order to undermine his witnessing...

Adams & Styles bolted from the 4th Floor window and bolted down the NW staircase...They squeaked out the rear exit ahead of everyone and were not seen..
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I agree that Shelley and Lovelady lied about their movements after the shooting.
Adams hit the first floor around 60 seconds after the shooting, if not quicker, and saw Shelley and Lovelady approaching the area near the elevators.
Shelley and Lovelady could not have made it to that position in time if they wandered down the Elm Street extension.
In their affidavits, given on the day of the shooting, there is no mention of wandering along the extension. Immediately after the shooting, Shelley runs across the extension, meets Gloria racing back to the front steps, returns to the front steps and re-enters the building. Lovelady never leaves the steps, and simply re-enters the building.
Shelley lied in his WC testimony when he says he waited on the steps until Gloria arrived.
Lovelady lied when he said he left the steps.
Both men lied about waiting there for 3 minutes.
Both men lied about wandering along the extension.
Both men lied about hanging around the railroad yard.
Both men lied about re-entering the building by the west door.
They didn't lie because the conspirators made them.
They lied because they are the conspirators (at least Shelley is)
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Donald Trump is, at the very least, a KGB* asset.

*Today's SVR and FSB

He was first "spotted" for possible future development in 1980 by KGB agent Semyon Kislin at his "Joy-Lund" electronics store in Manhattan.

A few years later he was dropped-in-on at Trump Tower by the new Soviet Ambassador to the U.N., Yuri Dubinin. Dubinin and his daughter flattered the-you-know-what out of him. A year later he was seated next to Dubinin at an Estee Lauder luncheon, and a few months after that he was in Moscow, all-expenses-paid, "scouting for sites for Trump Tower Moscow."

Then he comes home and places a full-page anti-NATO ad in major newspapers.

Go figure.

Yup, He threw China under the bus, to hear Him tell it, Russia's involvement was merely a footnote.

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https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/trump-goes-on-absolutely-bonkers-rant-about-burn-bags-demands-criminal-probe/
Trump Goes On Absolutely Bonkers Rant About ‘Burn Bags,’ Demands Criminal Probe
Kathryn Wilkens
Jul 16th, 2026,

....Focusing on China’s alleged interference in the 2020 election, Trump said on Thursday, “Recently, we found significant numbers of burn bags, information, and this is a group of bags that were used to destroy information given by President Barack Hussein Obama to be burned.”

He continued:

It was supposed to be burned. These bags were supposed to be, at a different level by different people, incinerated and checked, but it never happened. Maybe we got lucky. We believe this was not done on purpose, but rather through gross incompetence of the people that were supposed to burn the bags. But the findings are stunning. Today, I’m asking the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the CIA to investigate how and why such crucial information was hidden, to fire those involved in the cover-up, and to file criminal charges, if appropiate, against these people.
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Did the HSCA determine the hole in the windshield resulted from a strike on the interior side of the windshield?

There was no through-and-through hole in the windshield.
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President Trump is likely best a discussion for the General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) section of this forum.

In general, I do not admire criminals, but I do admire successful people and groups in positive endeavors.

WTF ?:

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https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/sep/30/context-donald-trumps-stand-back-and-stand-debate-/
PolitiFact | In context: Donald Trump's 'stand back and stand by ...
On the debate stage for the first time with Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, President Donald Trump stopped short of condemning white supremacists, telling the far-right Proud Boys...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Tarrio
.... he was the chairman of the Proud Boys, a neo-fascist organization that promotes and engages in political violence in the United States. Along with three other Proud Boys leaders, Tarrio was convicted in May 2023 of seditious conspiracy for his role in the 2021 United States Capitol attack. In September 2023, Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years in prison, before being pardoned by U.S. president Donald Trump following his return to office on January 20, 2025....

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Rhodes
.... a convicted seditionist, and the founder of the Oath Keepers, an American far-right anti-government militia.[1][2] In November 2022, he was convicted of seditious conspiracy and evidence tampering related to his participation in the January 6 United States Capitol attack culminating at the main campus of the United States Capitol complex. On May 23, 2023, he was sentenced to 18 years in prison before having his sentence commuted to time served by President Donald Trump following his return to office on January 20, 2025.[3][4] ...


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President Trump is likely best a discussion for the General Discussion And Debate (Any Topic) section of this forum.

In general, I do not admire criminals, but I do admire successful people and groups in positive endeavors.

You and John posted your preference for Rubio to succeed Trump in 2028, days ago, in this very forum. From then on, you've attempted the bait and switch
to avoid having to defend the following absurdities.

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https://intelligencecommunitynews.com/senate-intel-committee-releases-final-volume-of-russian-election-interference-report/
On August 18, U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Acting Chairman Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Vice Chairman Mark Warner (D-VA) released the fifth and final volume of the Committee’s bipartisan Russia investigation titled, “Volume 5: Counterintelligence Threats and Vulnerabilities,” which examines Russia’s attempts to gain influence in the American political system during the 2016 elections.

The Committee’s investigation totaled more than three years of investigative activity, more than 200 witness interviews, and more than a million pages of reviewed documents. All five volumes total more than 1300 pages.

You can read “Volume 5: Counterintelligence Threats and Vulnerabilities” here.

Read the Senate Intelligence Committee’s previous reports:...

IOW, "TG", there is little chance of anything reasonable or coherent coming from either of them.

TG-

Do you dislike the Donks and the Phants equally?

On any given day...

Lately, with the Mamdani-stan wing of the D-Party becoming ascendant...maybe 60/40 favor for the GOP.

But, in general it is a race to the bottom between these two parties....

I like Marco Rubio.

I like Rubio too and if he's the GOP nominee for POTUS in 2028, I will gladly vote for him. I think the nomination is J. D. Vance's to lose. A lot can happen between now and the early primaries and caucuses in 2028, but I expect Vance to be the nominee. Rubio would make a great #2.

There are no Democrats who I would even consider voting for in 2028. The Democrat Party has become so toxic with their embracing of the Marxist agenda that I won't consider anybody who is willing to put a D next to their name. I like John Fetterman but he isn't going to be on the national ticket and I live in the neighboring state of Ohio so I can't vote for him anyway. If he is going to remain in the Senate, he will have to switch parties because he will be primaried by the Democrats. Arlen Specter made that move in the oppositive direction. There is one other Democrat I like because he shows some common sense and the courage to call out the far left but I can't imagine him gaining any traction even if he does choose to run. That would be Stephen A. Smith who is a long shot to run and end even longer shot to win the nomination. The Commies are now controlling the primary process in the Democrat Party and not just on the coasts. I hope the Dems nominate AOC. It might be enough to make me believe there is a God.
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MTG--

I think you misunderstood my comment.

I have reasonable doubts about narratives of the JFKA that assert there was/is no hole in the limo windshield.

Did you see my other post?

Was the windshield destroyed or not? Or is it in the National Archives?

And did the HSCA determine the hole in the windshield resulted from a strike on the interior side of the windshield?
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