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Title: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Fred Litwin on June 26, 2018, 03:07:19 PM
For my upcoming book on the JFK assassination, I need a diagram of the single-bullet
theory showing the tumbling bullet.  My book is a non-conspiracy book - I just need
a diagram that I can legally use. Of course, I will give credit where it is due.

cheers

Fred Litwin
Title: Re: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Steve Logan on June 26, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
For my upcoming book on the JFK assassination, I need a diagram of the single-bullet
theory showing the tumbling bullet.  My book is a non-conspiracy book - I just need
a diagram that I can legally use. Of course, I will give credit where it is due.

cheers

Fred Litwin

Have you tried that Google thing?
Title: Re: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Fred Litwin on June 26, 2018, 05:24:03 PM
Yes, I have tried google..I am looking for a diagram that I can legally use.
Title: Re: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Ray Mitcham on June 26, 2018, 05:26:10 PM
Yes, I have tried google..I am looking for a diagram that I can legally use.

Download a diagram and copy (ie. redraw)  it, Fred. Seems easy enough.
Title: Re: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Andrew Mason on June 26, 2018, 06:26:01 PM
For my upcoming book on the JFK assassination, I need a diagram of the single-bullet
theory showing the tumbling bullet.  My book is a non-conspiracy book - I just need
a diagram that I can legally use. Of course, I will give credit where it is due.

cheers

Fred Litwin
There are many diagrams, for example:

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/vince-bugliosi-dale-myers-and-sbt.html (http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/vince-bugliosi-dale-myers-and-sbt.html)
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e201538ece10d9970b-pi (http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e201538ece10d9970b-pi)
http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100sbth.html (http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100sbth.html)

But be careful with these. They are misleading. 

For example in the second link above, the bullet path shown is 7.6 degrees to the path of car. The actual angle at z221 is 9.3 degrees. As it is, this path shows the bullet going right through Gov. Connally's chest. The bullet never penetrated the lung.  It actually followed along the outside of the fifth rib from the point where it struck in the right armpit to a point 10 cm from the end of the rib.  It then shattered the last 10 cm of rib and send shards into the lower right lung. 

In the first link, the diagram shows JFK so far to the passenger side of the car that his rib cage appears to be outside the passenger compartment.  It also shows the bullet going right through the right lung.

The Governor's seating position should be consistent with a tall person sitting on a jump seat mounted on the floor.  The knees would necessarily have been raised and apart (try it yourself if you are a male) so his left leg would not be on the right side. 

The trajectory from the right wrist to the left thigh is a problem because it requires the bullet striking and fracturing the right radius and passing between the radius and ulna through the wrist.  To do this, the back of the wrist would have to be facing the chest. 



Title: Re: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Bill Chapman on June 26, 2018, 07:13:12 PM
The Magic Loogie

Title: Re: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Bill Chapman on June 26, 2018, 07:31:44 PM
Yes, I have tried google..I am looking for a diagram that I can legally use.

Try public domain

Creative Commons
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Public_domain_image_resources

This looks good and has links to other sources as well
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Free_media_resources/Photography

Read carefully because some images aren't exactly free. It's up to you to find if any given image is copyrighted or not.

And a photographer or artist might grant you permission as long as you credit him.
Title: Re: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Joe Elliott on June 28, 2018, 04:53:38 AM


For my upcoming book on the JFK assassination, I need a diagram of the single-bullet
theory showing the tumbling bullet.  My book is a non-conspiracy book - I just need
a diagram that I can legally use. Of course, I will give credit where it is due.

cheers

Fred Litwin



I have two pieces of advice:

1.   Use 2 diagrams that make use of orthogonal projection. The sort of diagrams that are used in blueprints. One diagram which shows the limousine from above. The second diagram which shows the limousine from the side.

Advantages of this approach:
a.   Readers can check the angles out for themselves. On the overhead view, the angle of about 8 degrees with the trajectory to the limousine would match pretty close to what they could measure on a map. A downward angle of 17 degrees relative to the limousine would match pretty well with a shot about 190 feet away (diagonal or 3-D distance), from a position about 67 feet higher (60 feet from the height of the sixth-floor sniper?s nest, plus an extra 7 feet drop in the road.

b.   Having the horizontal line come hit, or at least come very close to Connally?s entry wound (one can only make approximations, so it?s hard to tell if it is close or spot on) could be written off of a coincidence. But the same thing with the side view makes this most unlikely.


If you only go with one diagram, one might say, well, there is only a 10% chance of the entry wound being within an inch of so of the line could be a coincidence. But with the same situation with the side view, means a 0.1 times 0.1 or only a 1% chance of such a coincidence. So, I strongly recommend going with two diagrams.


2.   Don?t assume a straight line through all seven wounds. A common assumption with Pro-LN diagrams. From reading Larry Sturdivan?s JFK book, one can tell that it is common for bullet to yaw. A WCC/MC bullet will always yaw within a large ballistic block. And once it start?s yawing, the bullet will follow a curve path. The oblong wound in Connally?s back shows the bullet just started yawing as it exited JFK?s neck. This would cause no change (or very little) in path as it travelled through the air but as soon as it starts travelling through a much denser medium, Connally?s torso, the bullet would start curving. So, show a curve path through Connally?s torso.

I would think that Connally?s wrist might have deflected the bullet, since the bullet was travelling so slowly then. However, Larry Sturdivan didn?t think so.

Once the bullet exited the torso, it may have followed a straight path. The bullet definitely curved downward through Connally?s torso, allowing it to end up in his left thigh near the knee.

No one can tell the location of Connally?s wrist or thigh at z222, so it?s impossible to tell if the bullet also curved left or right, or was pretty straight, except for the downward curve, as it travelled through Connally?s torso.

One doesn?t need the coincidence of all seven wounds lining up. This is not what one would expect anyway. Just having the sniper?s nest line up with JFK?s entry wound, JFK?s exit wound, with Connally?s entry wound, is good enough. Especially with the alignment occurring in both the overhead and the side view. The other wounds can be offline and should be shown offline for accuracy sake.
Title: Re: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Zeon Mason on June 28, 2018, 06:45:41 PM
(https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-68b1f05ec78555607750319242e0a90f)


Here is the one diagram that attempts to explain the path, how the bullet tumbled, how it entered Governor Connally's wrist BACKWARDS.. missed going thru his hat, yet ended up in his left thigh.. (where it later fell out on his stretcher without being noticed by nurse or doctor)


but theres more... oh SO MUCH more:

Within an hour after the assassination, Johnsen was given the bullet by Parkland hospital security director O.P. Wright, after orderly Darrell Tomlinson found it by a stretcher. Like Johnsen and Rowley, neither Wright nor Tomlinson could identify the bullet.
In a 1967 interview by private eye Tink Thompson, Wright was described as a professional law enforcement officer with ?an educated eye for bullet shapes.? Wright told Thompson that the bullet looked like a 30-30 round and had a pointed tip, not a blunt tip like the 6.5mm magic bullet.
It looks like someone originally planted a 30-30 bullet on or near a stretcher before the bullet was found sometime between 1:30 p.m. and 1:45 p.m., in an effort to align the evidence with the Dallas police dispatcher?s report at 12:44 p.m. that the 5 foot, 10 inch, 165-pound shooter used a 30-30 or some type of Winchester. (30-30 ammo has been used in Winchesters since the 19th century.)
Many years after Thompson?s interview with Wright, a FBI memo was found that said both Wright and Tomlinson thought the bullet in evidence ?appeared to be? the same one that they had seen on November 22.
Thompson and his colleague Gary Aguilar sought out the memo?s author, FBI agent Bardwell Odum, and interviewed him about this contradictory evidence in 2002. Incredibly, Odum said that he never had possession of the magic bullet. Odum added that even though it was highly unlikely that he forgot such a significant event, the established procedure was to write up a report about something that important. No such memo has been found in the National Archives, despite numerous searches. The use of Odum?s identity is another astonishing piece of fabricated evidence.



http://jfkfacts.org/csi-jfk-the-chain-of-custody-for-the-magic-bullet/


Title: Re: Need a diagram of the single bullet theory
Post by: Fred Litwin on June 28, 2018, 10:34:56 PM
Do you know where that diagram comes from?

fred litwin