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Title: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Denis Morissette on April 01, 2018, 04:52:39 PM
https://jfkassassinationfiles.wordpress.com/2018/03/10/cameramen-and-photographers-along-the-motorcade-route/

I used heavily on the DCA film for this particular project.
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Wes Riddle on April 02, 2018, 12:07:48 PM
excellent work
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Barry Pollard on April 09, 2018, 11:07:10 PM
Great stuff Denis, thank you.

Have you seen any evidence from anyone in CC1 reacting to the "please stop and shake our hands" incident?
Also, Jackson took at least one photo on Main and it's still in the gallery here.
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Sean Kneringer on April 10, 2018, 03:57:57 PM
"The Darrouzets were featured in the November 21, 1963 edition of Life Magazine. Copy provided by Randy Owen."

You meant to say 1983.
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Denis Morissette on April 11, 2018, 06:05:08 AM
"The Darrouzets were featured in the November 21, 1963 edition of Life Magazine. Copy provided by Randy Owen."

You meant to say 1983.

Thanks, I will correct that.
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Barry Pollard on April 15, 2018, 06:56:11 PM
Looking for evidence of Hargis and noticed this in Denis' Paschall video which is probably the best I've ever seen, if it's not old news then like me you may have to watch it more than a few times to even question it for more than just an illusion.
It's on the right between the foliage and SE of Zapruder.

Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Barry Pollard on May 11, 2018, 03:23:59 AM
Okay, if you haven't figured it out it's actually this woman on the right here
(https://jfkassassinationfiles.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/photo_jfkl-01_0016-st-c420-22-63-atkins-in-it.jpg)
even the Wiegman film shows her already down on the ground, so what Paschall tells us is that after going to ground she got up again for some reason and during the filmed clip goes back down to the grass.
I think she may have reacted to Hargis running toward her and became scared and or confused again.
Watch the Paschall clip again and see it happen, seconds before this clip starts Hargis ran across the street directly toward her, Wiegman and to some degree the Hesters, they all react.
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Royell Storing on May 11, 2018, 03:55:38 PM
Looking for evidence of Hargis and noticed this in Denis' Paschall video which is probably the best I've ever seen, if it's not old news then like me you may have to watch it more than a few times to even question it for more than just an illusion.
It's on the right between the foliage and SE of Zapruder.

        If the other individual in the above clip is Sitzman, we should then be able to see Hargis in this knoll area on the Bell Film. Hargis is Not visible in this Pergola/ Knoll area on the Bell Film. Also, if the above Paschall clip is showing Hargis, why is he not visible in Altgens 8? Altgens 8 shows both Zapruder and Sitzman having just dismounted The Perch and displays a wide view of that Pergola/ Knoll area. No where on Altgens 8 do we see Hargis. At a minimum the time stamps assigned to numerous JFK Assassination Images is inaccurate. At a maximum numerous JFK Assassination images have been Altered via being intentionally Omitted/Removed and or Altered.  Based on the slow meandering movements of Sitzman and Zapruder as seen on the Bell Film, the figure quickly moving across the screen in the above Paschall clip could Not be either one of them. If the fast moving individual, high up on the Knoll, within touching distance of the Zapruder Perch = Hargis on the Paschall Film, why is Hargis Not visible on Any assassination images in this area of the Knoll? The More the JFK Assassination images are scrutinized with ever evolving technology, the More they are being Proven to contradict each other. JFK Assassination image contradiction is further validation of erroneous time lines and image alteration.   
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Barry Pollard on May 14, 2018, 04:27:06 AM
Not on the knoll no IMO he was never there.
You can't see the lampost in the above and you can't see Hargis, the best evidence to compare Paschall with is Bell, there you see both.
IMHO Hargis went no further than the first blades of grass beacuse wiith this expaination it makes sense we don't see him up there, Weigman hit the dirt and showed he was no threat, Hargis seeing this, turned back.
That's why Wiegman got down, he saw the cop coming for him, that's why the woman got out of the way too, she was lying down already before Wiegman got there but in Paschell she's back on her feet and we see her fall to the floor for a second time. Can you see her do that?
Altgens also reacted to Hargis, he took a still of what the cop was running toward not of the cop himself who had already turned back.
IKE: "... by the time I got there, they were coming back down."
That image was important to him, he ran across the street to get it but in the end we see nothing because Hargis, looking for clues, reacted to anything and it turned out to be nothing but some dumb cameraman.
This is stuff we have to make up to explain what the testimony lacks. Jackson my favourite, says one cop rode up the grass on his motorbike, got off then ran inside the TSBD , making two he saw go in...
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Royell Storing on May 17, 2018, 03:16:49 PM
Not on the knoll no IMO he was never there.
You can't see the lampost in the above and you can't see Hargis, the best evidence to compare Paschall with is Bell, there you see both.
IMHO Hargis went no further than the first blades of grass beacuse wiith this expaination it makes sense we don't see him up there, Weigman hit the dirt and showed he was no threat, Hargis seeing this, turned back.
That's why Wiegman got down, he saw the cop coming for him, that's why the woman got out of the way too, she was lying down already before Wiegman got there but in Paschell she's back on her feet and we see her fall to the floor for a second time. Can you see her do that?
Altgens also reacted to Hargis, he took a still of what the cop was running toward not of the cop himself who had already turned back.
IKE: "... by the time I got there, they were coming back down."
That image was important to him, he ran across the street to get it but in the end we see nothing because Hargis, looking for clues, reacted to anything and it turned out to be nothing but some dumb cameraman.
This is stuff we have to make up to explain what the testimony lacks. Jackson my favourite, says one cop rode up the grass on his motorbike, got off then ran inside the TSBD , making two he saw go in...

         Attempting to get ALL the JFK Assassination Images to match-up is futile. Doing so results in Chasing Your Tail which is a Mission Accomplished by those responsible for the image alteration we continue to see. There are JFK Assassination Images which are legit, and some are Bogus. The Current Zapruder Film which was locked up for its' initial 12 years of existence & contains a Conspicuous GAP in the filming of JFK's Limo is at the Top of the list regarding Altered JFK Assassination Images.   
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Barry Pollard on May 20, 2018, 01:14:26 PM
Matching testimony to the films/photos is mostly futile but you always learn something and there is nothing in the solid evidence that doesn't match or cannot be explained IMHO.
I can't even think of an issue in the photographic evidence I have a problem with.
Were you referring to the missing turn onto Elm? That falls into the hearsay department so as interesting as it is/was I tend to ignore it, it works
You can only prove alteration within the evidence itself, so call my bluff and point to a problem in the evidence, not the testimony and I'll explain it or call for help.
Title: Re: The Motorcade in Photos and Films in Chronological Order
Post by: Royell Storing on May 20, 2018, 03:50:12 PM
Matching testimony to the films/photos is mostly futile but you always learn something and there is nothing in the solid evidence that doesn't match or cannot be explained IMHO.
I can't even think of an issue in the photographic evidence I have a problem with.
Were you referring to the missing turn onto Elm? That falls into the hearsay department so as interesting as it is/was I tend to ignore it, it works
You can only prove alteration within the evidence itself, so call my bluff and point to a problem in the evidence, not the testimony and I'll explain it or call for help.

       When considering the Zapruder Film Omitting the JFK Limo turn onto Elm St, bear in mind the interview of Sitzman conducted by Tink Thompson for his groundbreaking 1966 "Six Seconds In Dallas". Sitzman clearly tells Thompson from their Elevated Perch position, they could see the JFK Limo Turning onto Houston St, Traveling down Houston St, and Turning onto Elm St. This stuff about Zapruder not knowing where the JFK Limo was and therefore missing it turning onto Elm St is Pure Baloney. If you look at the 3 Cops in front of the JFK Limo that Zapruder Did somehow manage to See/Film turning onto Elm St, the background of that Z Film sequence does capture portions of the Dal Tex Bld. The Dal Tex Bld is mere feet from the TSBD and has often been speculated as to housing a shooter. A possible segment of the Zapruder Film capturing the JFK Limo turning from Houston onto Elm St would have Included that same Dal Tex Bld scant seconds before shots were fired.