Over on YOU TUBE, Theory has posted "Raw Footage #86: Robert Groden's original scan of his 16mm copy of Dave Wiegman's Film". This is the best Wiegman copy I have ever seen. Still jiggly at points and tough to make out. That said, The Prayer Man Corner and the SMOKE HOVERING Above the Picket Fence is clear. That Prayer Man corner looks sketchy. The shadow running N-S down the TSBD front steps looks unusually Black. And when I say Black, I mean JET, JET BLACK. Also,that same shadow is STRAIGHT assa string.
How can we trust any technical analysis from Royell when he lacks the simple technical expertise to post a YouTube video?
Here is the video which is a higher quality than some others, but all the scenes of the picket fence are a mess of motion blur, if anyone can see the clear smoke please take a frame grab and point it out??
JohnM
How can we trust any technical analysis from Royell when he lacks the simple technical expertise to post a YouTube video?
Here is the video which is a higher quality than some others, but all the scenes of the picket fence are a mess of motion blur, if anyone can see the clear smoke please take a frame grab and point it out??
JohnM
Over on YOU TUBE, Theory has posted "Raw Footage #86: Robert Groden's original scan of his 16mm copy of Dave Wiegman's Film". This is the best Wiegman copy I have ever seen. Still jiggly at points and tough to make out. That said, The Prayer Man Corner and the SMOKE HOVERING Above the Picket Fence is clear. That Prayer Man corner looks sketchy. The shadow running N-S down the TSBD front steps looks unusually Black. And when I say Black, I mean JET, JET BLACK. Also,that same shadow is STRAIGHT assa string.
You're welcome John. The alleged smoke above the picket fence is clear. You need to get serious and employ frame-by-frame. Theory is in Groden's good graces. This means more good stuff like this coming down the pipe. It's all crashing down around the LN's now. And it started with the Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". The JFK Assassination Conspiracy has Now been Proven and CT's are emboldened by SCIENCE.
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Suddenly, it's "alleged" ... :D
The CTs can't tell fall foliage from gunsmoke. ::)
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I so enjoy the "Oldies".
Why don't you look at the Groden 16mm copy before posting those old still frames.
I think the smoke is still lingering at the 58th anniversary ::)
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You're welcome John. The alleged smoke above the picket fence is clear. You need to get serious and employ frame-by-frame. Theory is in Groden's good graces. This means more good stuff like this coming down the pipe. It's all crashing down around the LN's now. And it started with the Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". The JFK Assassination Conspiracy has Now been Proven and CT's are emboldened by SCIENCE.
We just slugged our way through the first 0:45 of Theory's/ Groden 16mm Copy of Wiegman. Among many discoveries is just how quickly Altgens was physically on the North Side of Elm St. This impacts the currently accepted timeline attached to Altgens 8, (which Altgens did Not remember shooting), along with others on that (N) side of Elm St. Same goes for the 60yr rubber stamped physical positions of these same people on the (N) side of Elm St. "Perspective"? BS:
We just slugged our way through the first 0:45 of Theory's/ Groden 16mm Copy of Wiegman. Among many discoveries is just how quickly Altgens was physically on the North Side of Elm St. This impacts the currently accepted timeline attached to Altgens 8, (which Altgens did Not remember shooting), along with others on that (N) side of Elm St. Same goes for the 60yr rubber stamped physical positions of these same people on the (N) side of Elm St. "Perspective"? BS:
Mr. Stroing, why is it that you post these things you say are in films and photos, but you NEVER post an image of what you're telling us you see? I don't take you seriously for a variety of reasons, because just as John Mytton has pointed out, you can't even so much as post a video onto YouTube. There is no smoke above the stockade fence. in the Weigman film. The wind was blowing at 25 MPH constantly. You can clearly see the treebranches blowing as Zapruder is panning towards the inderpass s the limousine approaches and enters it. Wiegman is capturing the same scene with his camera. Smoke couldn't have possibly "lingered" anywhere in that plaza that day.
Thanks John. Appreciate your giving me a modicum of credit. What I do and why is my concern and my concern alone. I refuse to infuse some around here with knowledge, which is why they beg me to post this-n-that. They thirst for what I know and am thinking. Backstage is where the bulk of my work product and knowledge is discusses/dispensed. The old guard researchers know their day is done and therefore are doing all they can to NOW get up-to-speed on the current Breakthroughs occurring in this case. Too Late for that. Once anything transforms into a Fossil, it is what it is. It goes Nowhere from that point forward.
Thanks John. Appreciate your giving me a modicum of credit. What I do and why is my concern and my concern alone. I refuse to infuse some around here with knowledge, which is why they beg me to post this-n-that. They thirst for what I know and am thinking. Backstage is where the bulk of my work product and knowledge is discusses/dispensed. The old guard researchers know their day is done and therefore are doing all they can to NOW get up-to-speed on the current Breakthroughs occurring in this case. Too Late for that. Once anything transforms into a Fossil, it is what it is. It goes Nowhere from that point forward.
You shouldn't flatter yourself, Mr. Storing. I'm not the LEAST bit impressed with a single post that you have made in this forum. Anyone who can't/won't post what they CLAIM is evidence in any case when it's available for all to see is terribly unsure of their claim. You're not fooling anyone around here. This isn't a "Stage", Mr. Storing, and therefore there is no such thing as "backstage". We're talking about the murder of John Fiztgerald Kennedy, 35th president of the United States. The "Old Guard" as you call us, present evidence to prove our point. You do not. How unprofessional of you. The "Old Guard's" day will never be done, but you just keep dreaming. Just keep flattering yourself, Mr. Storing. It goes nowhere , it gets you nowhere, and never will.
The above is a perfect example of an Old Guard JFK Researcher FOCUSED on Flattery, getting Upstaged, and general Me, Me, Me, centered stuff. The current undercurrent to all of this is just plain old fashioned LN FEAR. The Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding that the , "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE", has been a dagger to their heart. Their Lone Gunman claim being corner stoned by the SBT, which was cooked up by a political wannabe with a pointer and a Mock Automobile Backseat squirreled away down inside a basement. That same backseat looking a lot like the one Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney used during their "sparking" scenes during the Andy Hardy series movie run. There Never was any SCIENCE connected to the SBT. All conjecture, could be/might be hokum.
Since Knott Labs SCIENCE has you down for the count, I'll be kind and buy you a vowel. Altgens beat both Officer Hargis and Wiegman to the Knoll.
The above by Royell Storing is a prime example of utter B.S. by a king CT. Storing flatters himself again, then goes off on a tangient talking about playing a game with people who believe Oswald is guilty vs. his lunacy conspiracy theories, which never end. It's constant babble by Storing. A film or photograph is posted in this forum, and immediately, Storing and his ilk are searching for things that have no bearing on the assassination, except in their minds, where they creaate theory after theory, just dying to keep the conspiracy nonsense alive. As I said, Royell Storing, nothing you have ever posted within in this forum have impressed me as a fact. It's nothing but conjecture on your part. You take otherwise innocent people and turn them into conspirators involved in the assassination. And finally, if you think Knotts Lab have proven anything with their extremely sloppy renactment of the positions of JFK and JBC, well, that's par for the course where you are concerned.
I don't need Knotts Lab to tell me anything regarding the single bullet. I already know that JFK and JBC were struck by the same bullet. The Zapruder film and common sense is all it takes to know. Knotts Lab have just made a name for themselves according to all you conspiracy dreamers. If they'd have solved the controversy of CE 399, it would be all over the news, but it isn't because they didn't. People need not look any further than the Zapruder film. The proof is right there, captured on film. Just like JFK was stuck in the back of the head, blowing the top off his head off, and the majority of the fragments from his skull being found some 25 feet ahead of where he was struck with the bullet that hit him in the head, and one large fragment that can clearly be seen inside the limousine flying foward from his head landing on the top of the backrest of the seat occupied by Nellie Connally, and falling towards the floor, where it was found by Secret Service agent Samuel Kinney, and turned into the investigators.
The above by Royell Storing is a prime example of utter B.S. by a king CT. Storing flatters himself again, then goes off on a tangient talking about playing a game with people who believe Oswald is guilty vs. his lunacy conspiracy theories, which never end. It's constant babble by Storing. A film or photograph is posted in this forum, and immediately, Storing and his ilk are searching for things that have no bearing on the assassination, except in their minds, where they creaate theory after theory, just dying to keep the conspiracy nonsense alive. As I said, Royell Storing, nothing you have ever posted within in this forum have impressed me as a fact. It's nothing but conjecture on your part. You take otherwise innocent people and turn them into conspirators involved in the assassination. And finally, if you think Knotts Lab have proven anything with their extremely sloppy renactment of the positions of JFK and JBC, well, that's par for the course where you are concerned.
I don't need Knotts Lab to tell me anything regarding the single bullet. I already know that JFK and JBC were struck by the same bullet. The Zapruder film and common sense is all it takes to know. Knotts Lab have just made a name for themselves according to all you conspiracy dreamers. If they'd have solved the controversy of CE 399, it would be all over the news, but it isn't because they didn't. People need not look any further than the Zapruder film. The proof is right there, captured on film. Just like JFK was stuck in the back of the head, blowing the top off his head off, and the majority of the fragments from his skull being found some 25 feet ahead of where he was struck with the bullet that hit him in the head, and one large fragment that can clearly be seen inside the limousine flying foward from his head landing on the top of the backrest of the seat occupied by Nellie Connally, and falling towards the floor, where it was found by Secret Service agent Samuel Kinney, and turned into the investigators.
Here we go again. SCIENCE PROVES an LN Wrong, and Immediately they know more than SCIENCE. So much for actually seeking the Truth as to what exactly went down on 11/22/63. And what happened to that "FOLLOW THE SCIENCE" mantra?
And stop with the "No backstage" BS: Like I said, some of us know what shell the pea is under. Some people boldly seek out The Truth, while others weakly are attracted to the comfort afforded by surrounding themselves with bobble headers and back patters. A peripheral benefit of the Knott Labs Laser 360 finding that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE", is that Cyril Wecht has finally been rewarded for Steadfastly Standing Tall amidst the decades of slings and arrows that he has endured. That guy issa living testament to the word Perseverance.
Here we go again. SCIENCE PROVES an LN Wrong, and Immediately they know more than SCIENCE. So much for actually seeking the Truth as to what exactly went down on 11/22/63. And what happened to that "FOLLOW THE SCIENCE" mantra?
And stop with the "No backstage" BS: Like I said, some of us know what shell the pea is under. Some people boldly seek out The Truth, while others weakly are attracted to the comfort afforded by surrounding themselves with bobble headers and back patters. A peripheral benefit of the Knott Labs Laser 360 finding that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE", is that Cyril Wecht has finally been rewarded for Steadfastly Standing Tall amidst the decades of slings and arrows that he has endured. That guy issa living testament to the word Perseverance.
There can be no possibility for truth when you are doing a recreation for money to satisfy your client who was footing the bill.
Even Blind Freddy with a more than passing interest in this case can see the myriad of mistakes in the Knotts Lab analysis.
Sorry Royell, the only SCIENCE that can be seen here, is Knott Labs satisfying their PAYING client!
"Knott Laboratory was hired by John Orr,....."
https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-laboratory-presents-digital-reconstruction-and-findings-on-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy/
Nuff said!
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Since you mentioned Cyril Wecht, here's Cyril Wecht's SBF recreation which has even more errors than the Knotts Lab failure.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fbfdMm4G/cyril-wecht-sbt-mess.jpg)
JohnM
What new? 2 LN's now morphing into SCIENCE DENIERS. 1 of 'em claiming he knows more than SCIENCE, the other trashing Cyril Wecht whose medical credentials are Top Shelf. This is what I mean by LN's being on TILT since the Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE found the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". This is the same SCIENCE that is used in court rooms across this country day-in and day-out. You 2 are nothing more than FLAT EARTHER'S who now can Not bring themselves to abandon a half baked THEORY that was hatched in a basement.
That's correct, Royell Storing! I'm trashing Wecht because his demonstrations are dishonest HOGWASH, and you know it, and so does he! You know darned well that Kennedy and Connally weren't seated the way he sets those chairs up for his stand-ins. Connally's seat was lower, and to Kennedy's left. Kennedy was hugging the side of the car, as close as he could so he could rest his arm on the side rail. So why does Wecht not get two chairs that accomodate the actual way the two men were seated? He could if he wanted to, but if he were to reveal to the unknowing audience just how they were seated, it would destroy his entire "case". He's a turd, and that you support him and his flat out dishonest misrepresentation of how the men were actually seated makes you one, as well!
The single bullet fact would be impossible if both Kennedy and Connally were seated the way Wecht sets up the stand-ins during his presentation, but they weren't seated Wecht's dishonest way! So cut the crap, Storing!
Secondly, the type of animation that Dale Myers produced is used in a court of law, all over the world! You don't know half of what has been going on around you, Mr. Storing! You're nothing but a conspiracy buff who thinks everyone wearing an overcoat in Dealep Plaza killed JFK! You haven't a clue of the people who peer reveiewd Dale Myers work before it went public! So why don[t you look it up! That's asking too much, though. You'll find out that you're full of nothing but hot air if you did look it up, and that's more than likely why you won't!
Lastly, once again you've avoided answering the points I raised in my last post. That says a lot about you.
Cyril Wecht is an exceptionally accomplished forensic pathologist. Your questioning his medical opinions, (which SCIENCE has proven to be Correct), is like Goober Pyle critiquing the chess play of Bobby Fischer. Know your limitations!
I'm not questioning his "medical opinons". I know his reputation as a coroner is exceptional, but his constant flat out lying about how Kennedy and Connally are seated in the limousine during assassination are two different things because it's a known fact that Wecht is PURPOSELY, dishonestly misleading people with lies about the actual positions of Kennedy and Connally! You are just plain off your nut by ignoring this fact, Storing. "SCIENCE" has NOT proven Wecht correct! Stop saying that. It has not proven him correct! Face it and accept it. "SCIENCE" will never confirm anything Wecht does regarding the single bullet fact as long as he purposely and dishonestly continues to falsely demonstrate the seating arrangements of Kennedy and Connally during the shooting! PERIOD! And speaking of Goober Pyle. You have the mentality level of dryer lint for believing Cyril Wecht is credible with his dishonest display of how Kennedy and Connally were seated in the limousine, during the assassination. So put that in your beverage and drink it.
You continue proving me correct as to your being on TILT. Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding that the "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE", does prove Wecht to be Correct. You SCIENCE DENIERS are outta control with your yelling and screaming, name calling, etc. This is probably the same denial seizures that some were afflicted with after Columbus proved the Earth was Not Flat. You're fighting with SCIENCE now, which is Way above your weight See Billy Conn.
Well what about the witness who said they SAW smoke? Where they also mistaking tree foliage in the sunlight ?
Since it’s unlikely that a shooter would have used an antique musket from the revolutionary war, then it must have been either motorcycle or car starting up emission?
Unless there some kind of weird smoke from Files special gun that fires special exploding rounds that for some reason did not blow out the left side of JFKs skull. 😳
But those x rays could be faked and they could have removed a frame and added a frame or 2 in the Z-film to make it look like JFKs head went forward between Z312 and Z 313 , and reversed that bone fragment that flys in the direction the limo , and the blood splatter going forward maybe reversed too. 🤔🙄