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Title: David Lifton's Camouflage Theory
Post by: Fred Litwin on May 29, 2023, 03:17:45 PM
David Lifton's Camouflage Theory

Here is an early theory of David LIfton's. The grassy knoll was excavated and tunnels were installed. Lifton told this theory to Sylvia Meagher in a phone call in 1965. She immediately sent him a letter asking him to come to his senses.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/david-lifton-s-camouflage-theory (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/david-lifton-s-camouflage-theory)
Title: Re: David Lifton's Camouflage Theory
Post by: Sean Kneringer on May 29, 2023, 03:46:06 PM

She immediately sent him a letter asking him to come to his senses.

Didn't work. His theories only got more outlandish.
Title: Re: David Lifton's Camouflage Theory
Post by: David Von Pein on May 30, 2023, 12:19:10 AM
Didn't work. His theories only got more outlandish.

And how....

Here's my brief recap of this 14-part video series (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0O5WNzrZqINyzkmcG_mxtCdItyQLe93E) featuring David S. Lifton, which was recorded in November of 2013. This is only a partial list of some of the preposterous things that Mr. Lifton believed happened on November 22, 1963:

1.) A Secret Service agent was, indeed, killed on 11/22/63. And the body of this dead SS agent was then placed on board Air Force One at Love Field in Dallas. And apparently nobody noticed this occurring at all.

2.) All of the films taken in Dealey Plaza on November 22 were altered/faked (e.g., the Zapruder Film, the Nix Film, the Muchmore Film, etc.). A direct quote from David Lifton in 2013: "All the films have been altered."

3.) Prior to departing Dallas, JFK's body was evidently (per Lifton) placed on some sort of "ledge" in the cargo area of Air Force One, and then, sometime during the flight, his body fell from this ledge, resulting in a situation where one of JFK's arms was left dangling toward the floor of the cargo hold. And as a result of this, at the start of the autopsy at Bethesda, Kennedy's arm (due to the onset of rigor mortis) was sticking up, stiff as a board, and could not be lowered until Dr. Humes actually got up on the autopsy table (per Lifton's account, which comes via an interview with autopsy eyewitness Richard Lipsey) and forced the stiffened arm down by JFK's side.

4.) To avoid the prying eyes of the media, Air Force One made an unscheduled stop near the end of the runway after landing at Andrews Air Force Base. This was done so that JFK's corpse could be secretly taken out of the airplane's cargo hold and transferred to a helicopter.

5.) Secret Service agent John Ready "threw himself" into the Presidential limousine after the shooting, and (according to Mr. Lifton) it is Ready's foot we see sticking out of the back seat of the car in the David Miller photograph.

6.) Quoting David Lifton in 2013: "He [John Connally] got shot as a result of this fight in the car [with Secret Service agent John Ready]."

So now we know how David Lifton managed to keep John Connally from sustaining any wounds from the rear during the period when the assassination of JFK was taking place on Elm Street. He (Lifton) merely invented this fantasy story about Secret Service agent John Ready leaping into the limousine and shooting Connally. And then John Connally, in all of his many post-1963 interviews, decided to never once mention this "fight" that he had with Ready.

Oh, brother.

7.) Lifton, as of 2013, apparently believed that President Kennedy's wounds were altered (with lightning-like speed evidently) while JFK was still aboard Air Force One at Love Field in Dallas.

I had always thought Lifton believed that the body-altering surgery was performed at Walter Reed Hospital. But I guess David decided to change the location of that part of his fanciful tale. ~shrug~

8.) Lee Harvey Oswald did, indeed, fire a rifle from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building on November 22nd....but David Lifton thinks it was merely a "mock attack" and Lee was only firing "blanks".

Well, have you had enough of this fantasy stuff for today?

Yeah, me too.

David Von Pein
December 2022

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Title: Re: David Lifton's Camouflage Theory
Post by: Rick Plant on May 30, 2023, 08:35:35 AM
Lifton also said Kennedy’s body was “medically forged” en route to Bethesda. 

Here's a really old article from the Los Angeles Times on Lifton.

His J.F.K. Obsession : For David Lifton, the Assassination Is a Labyrinth Without End
Nov 20, 1988
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-11-20-tm-206-story.html
Title: Re: David Lifton's Camouflage Theory
Post by: Mark A. Oblazney on June 01, 2023, 01:55:40 AM
Lifton also said Kennedy’s body was “medically forged” en route to Bethesda. 

Here's a really old article from the Los Angeles Times on Lifton.

His J.F.K. Obsession : For David Lifton, the Assassination Is a Labyrinth Without End
Nov 20, 1988
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-11-20-tm-206-story.html
May he rest in peace.  His words shall not, however.  And that GoFundMe thing of his.  I wonder if he spent any before leaving?
Title: Re: David Lifton's Camouflage Theory
Post by: Richard Smith on June 01, 2023, 02:06:35 PM
Almost no one was as nutty as Lifton.  He must have been a really nice guy to have maintained such a high reputation.  His theories were outright lunacy of the type that would justify mental health intervention if expressed in public and not just in books.
Title: Re: David Lifton's Camouflage Theory
Post by: Sean Kneringer on June 01, 2023, 04:10:02 PM
As an engineering grad, he might have had some semblance of a life had Oswald not succeeded that day. Instead, he became obsessed and fell down the rabbit hole.
Title: Re: David Lifton's Camouflage Theory
Post by: Steve M. Galbraith on June 01, 2023, 05:37:10 PM
Almost no one was as nutty as Lifton.  He must have been a really nice guy to have maintained such a high reputation.  His theories were outright lunacy of the type that would justify mental health intervention if expressed in public and not just in books.
What's so odd is that he saw through the Garrison farce, recognized the insanity of his investigation and didn't just go along with it as a sort of "He means well and he's on our side anyway" rationale. He was correctly outraged at the abuses by Garrison and denounced them at that time and not later like a Weisberg. How he saw through Garrison and still promoted ideas that I think even Garrison would find absurd is puzzling.

It's always amazing listening to conspiracists complain about the mistreatment of Oswald by the Warren Commission and then praise Garrison's investigation. Nobody mistreated Oswald worse than what Garrison did.
Title: Re: David Lifton's Camouflage Theory
Post by: Paul J Cummings on June 02, 2023, 06:56:27 PM
I'm thankful for the research David Lifton provided and his book Best Evidence is iconic.