JFK Assassination Forum
Off Topic => News - Off Topic - Weird & Wacky => Topic started by: Jon Banks on April 20, 2023, 02:15:36 AM
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Robert Kennedy Jr. is the second candidate, after Marianne Williamson, to challenge Joe Biden for the 2024 Democratic nomination.
Politico: The Kennedy campaign the Kennedys don’t want to see
No American political dynasty is more familiar with service, sacrifice and scandal than the Kennedys. But many of this Kennedy’s family members want nothing to do with their progeny’s all-but-doomed bid. Several of Kennedy’s siblings and relatives are openly backing President Joe Biden for a second term. Three of them are diplomats for his administration. Just a smattering of his children and grandchildren showed up for his launch. When reached by phone, one of his brothers, Joseph Kennedy, begged off a chance to talk about it all.
“Most American families, they never have any differences with each other. So when it happens with a family, it’s really huge news, like, everywhere,” the now-candidate Kennedy said to laughter from a standing-room crowd that packed the ballroom of the Boston Park Plaza hotel to see him.
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With the absence of Kennedys — and Democrats — Kennedy surrounded himself on Wednesday with an eclectic mix of vaccine skeptics, independent voters and conservatives, several of whom had flown in from across the country and many of whom were fed up with what they characterized as a corrupt, dishonest federal government. Clad in Kennedy 2024 shirts and pins, they cast the Kennedy outcast as misunderstood, or unfairly ignored.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/19/robert-kennedy-2024-campaign-00092842
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LOL Marianne Williamson is running to promote her new book and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is being pushed to run by Qanon MAGA radicals Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, and Roger Stone. Neither one of these loons will get 1%.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuGOMfdWYAo-Fih?format=jpg&name=360x360)
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LOL Marianne Williamson is running to promote her new book and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is being pushed to run by Qanon MAGA radicals Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, and Roger Stone. Neither one of these loons will get 1%.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuGOMfdWYAo-Fih?format=jpg&name=360x360)
Is there no end to the conspiracy theories and blaming of Trump? Robert KENNEDY Jr. is under the control of the republicans? Next you will be telling us that RFK Jr. is colluding with the Russians. He is agent of Putin etc. Again that is KENNEDY. A leftist icon. Republicans have nothing to do with the clown show on the Democrat ticket.
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LOL Marianne Williamson is running to promote her new book and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is being pushed to run by Qanon MAGA radicals Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, and Roger Stone. Neither one of these loons will get 1%.
Someone should inform Biden voters. Per USA Today:
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. launches unlikely presidential bid backed by 14% of Biden voters.
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The mainstream media isn't sure how to cover (or not cover) RFK Jr's campaign.
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The mainstream media isn't sure how to cover (or not cover) RFK Jr's campaign.
RFK Jr. is certainly an odd ball but on the spectrum of current Dem clown show, he is no worse than Ukraine Joe and many others. At least he doesn't have dementia and his entire family isn't taking millions from foreign governments. The political establishment hate outsiders like RFK Jr. who are not with the program. They are not subject to the same influences as those who have sold out. They can't be controlled by the establishment. They expect results instead of just enriching themselves. That can't be allowed.
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History repeating itself? RFK ran in the 1968 election against a failing incumbent Dem president who had gotten the US involved in a senseless war. And a republican won that election!
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History repeating itself? RFK ran in the 1968 election against a failing incumbent Dem president who had gotten the US involved in a senseless war. And a republican won that election!
Actually, LBJ didn't run in 1968 so it was an open primary.
I don't see RFK Jr as viable in the Dem primaries. Unless someone like California or Michigan's governors jump in, I don't see any real threat to Biden being nominated.
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Actually, LBJ didn't run in 1968 so it was an open primary.
I don't see RFK Jr as viable in the Dem primaries. Unless someone like California or Michigan's governors jump in, I don't see any real threat to Biden being nominated.
LBJ saw the light. He was smarter than Old Joe. Which isn't saying much. Biden has dementia. He is being manipulated by his family who face criminal charges and political cronies who want to retain their influence. No reasonable person believes Biden is in mental and physical condition to be president and he is unlikely to finish a second term at his advanced age. Meaning Kamala will likely become president without ever receiving a single vote. Susan Rice has just jumped ship.
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LBJ saw the light. He was smarter than Old Joe. Which isn't saying much. Biden has dementia. He is being manipulated by his family who face criminal charges and political cronies who want to retain their influence. No reasonable person believes Biden is in mental and physical condition to be president and he is unlikely to finish a second term at his advanced age. Meaning Kamala will likely become president without ever receiving a single vote. Susan Rice has just jumped ship.
The two potential curveballs that I see affecting Biden's chances are:
- The legal troubles for his son. The DOJ appears to be very close to prosecuting Hunter for tax related issues.
- What happens in Ukraine by the end of this year. There's a new Politico article out this morning confirming that the Biden administration is concerned about the political consequences at home if the upcoming Ukrainian counteroffensive fails.
On the second point, I have wondered myself if Biden has gambled too much political capital on the Ukraine war. It could be a major problem for him throughout the 2024 election if the war over there continues throughout the Presidential campaign.
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The two potential curveballs that I see affecting Biden's chances are:
- The legal troubles for his son. The DOJ appears to be very close to prosecuting Hunter for tax related issues.
- What happens in Ukraine by the end of this year. There's a new Politico article out this morning confirming that the Biden administration is concerned about the political consequences at home if the upcoming Ukrainian counteroffensive fails.
On the second point, I have wondered myself if Biden has gambled too much political capital on the Ukraine war. It could be a major problem for him throughout the 2024 election if the war over there continues throughout the Presidential campaign.
Yes, Ukraine is a wild card. It began as a positive with many buying the fake "pro-democracy, Ukraine good, Russia bad" propaganda. Support is already waning but hasn't become negative. If the Russians cave in the coming months, then Biden will be celebrated. If the war continues in stalemate for years as likely, then enthusiasm will wane as it does for all wars. "Europe" has already mostly checked out. As usual, they are content to allow the US to bear the cost. And, of course, there is no better time for China to invade Taiwan with the US bogged down in Ukraine. Is Old Joe going to start WWIII during a presidential campaign over Taiwan? Doesn't seem likely. If China was ever going to do it, the time is coming. They don't want to deal with Trump or DeSantis in a post-Ukraine future. A Chinese invasion of Taiwan would have worldwide economic consequences - and not for the good. It would make the COVID lockdown seem like a minor inconvenience. Global market collapse. Not sure Biden or anyone in office could survive the economic consequences of sanctions on China similar to those imposed on Russia. The US and world economy are tied to China for good or ill. It would be much more significant than the impact of sanctions on Russia.
In terms of Hunter, I think the corrupt DOJ will find a way to give him a slap on the wrist and it will be done. They haven't sat on evidence of his numerous felonies for all these years to throw the book at him just as Old Joe ramps up his campaign. They are politically biased and corrupt. I also see no way possible that Biden, in his obvious physical and mental decline, could finish a second term. The election should factor in the likelihood that Kamala would become president in a second term. And I think most voters including the most radical Dems can't see that as a positive thing. To put it kindly, she is simply not up to the task.
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RFK is up to nearly 20% in some polls as most Dems don't want Old Joe to run. Not a great sign. The only issue that Biden can conjure up is a drumbeat of Trump hatred and fear. Somehow if you vote for someone other than Ukraine Joe, it is a threat to democracy. You are likely a racist as well. The New America under the Big Brother leftists.
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RFK is up to nearly 20% in some polls as most Dems don't want Old Joe to run. Not a great sign. The only issue that Biden can conjure up is a drumbeat of Trump hatred and fear. Somehow if you vote for someone other than Ukraine Joe, it is a threat to democracy. You are likely a racist as well. The New America under the Big Brother leftists.
Biden is a very weak incumbent. The only thing he has going for him in the next election is that he's not Trump. Which won't do him any good if Trump somehow loses the GOP nomination.
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Biden is a very weak incumbent. The only thing he has going for him in the next election is that he's not Trump. Which won't do him any good if Trump somehow loses the GOP nomination.
Old Joe can't hide behind COVID in the upcoming election. He will actually have to campaign. A real liability for him to be seen and heard by the public which is why it almost never happens. And who knows how many more disasters will unfold under his clown show before the election. His age and cognitive decline can no longer be ignored. But you are right. There are many people who would rather be broke, murdered on the streets, or nuked in WWIII before they would vote for Trump. The relentless media and state sponsored propaganda has been effective in programming many people to believe that defeating Trump is the most important issue in the world.
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Biden is a very weak incumbent. The only thing he has going for him in the next election is that he's not Trump. Which won't do him any good if Trump somehow loses the GOP nomination.
The only thing Biden has going for him is he is not Trump. Well, that's a hell of a lot more than Trump has going for him.
Biden, or any Democratic candidate, is a strong candidate. And will decisively win against the Republican candidate. Who will be Trump.
The only chance the Republicans have, is that somehow, Trump does not win the nomination. But that is not going to happen.
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The only thing Biden has going for him is he is not Trump. Well, that's a hell of a lot more than Trump has going for him.
Biden, or any Democratic candidate, is a strong candidate. And will decisively win against the Republican candidate. Who will be Trump.
The only chance the Republicans have, is that somehow, Trump does not win the nomination. But that is not going to happen.
Trump has a record of success during his presidency that is almost unsurpassed in modern times. Love him or hate him, things were demonstrably better off during his administration than in this current clown show of incompetents. And just imagine how bad things could get if Old Joe continues to decline and we are left with Kamala. China will not wait a second to invade Taiwan in the face of such weakness. Then we have WWIII or the most severe economic crisis in history with a complete fool as president.
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Trump has a record of success during his presidency that is almost unsurpassed in modern times. Love him or hate him, things were demonstrably better off during his administration than in this current clown show of incompetents. And just imagine how bad things could get if Old Joe continues to decline and we are left with Kamala. China will not wait a second to invade Taiwan in the face of such weakness. Then we have WWIII or the most severe economic crisis in history with a complete fool as president.
Trump has a record of success during his presidency that is almost unsurpassed in modern times.
Are you serious? Really.... :D :D :D :D :D
Name one thing he did to benefit the people?
Love him or hate him, things were demonstrably better off during his administration than in this current clown show of incompetents.
You've got a very selective memory. Just how many high ranking people were fired or left under Trump? Talk about incompetence!
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How long before RFK sees the light and realizes that the fix is in on the Dem side as it was in 2016 and 2020? Just ask Bernie. Only members of the corrupt establishment are allowed to be nominated. They have to demonstrate no independent thought or policies. They must tow the party line. RFK is not doing that. He is trying to bring some sanity back to the Dem party. Return it to its roots and speak out against the clown show. They will not allow that. Hopefully, he runs as a third-party candidate. He already has 20% of the Dem vote. That is 20% more than Kamala who will eventually become the President due to Ukraine Joe's advanced age and cognitive decline.
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How long before RFK sees the light and realizes that the fix is in on the Dem side as it was in 2016 and 2020? Just ask Bernie. Only members of the corrupt establishment are allowed to be nominated. They have to demonstrate no independent thought or policies. They must tow the party line. RFK is not doing that. He is trying to bring some sanity back to the Dem party. Return it to its roots and speak out against the clown show. They will not allow that. Hopefully, he runs as a third-party candidate. He already has 20% of the Dem vote. That is 20% more than Kamala who will eventually become the President due to Ukraine Joe's advanced age and cognitive decline.
So you can't name a single thing that Trump did to benefit the people? Got it.... Thanks for another laugh.
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So you can't name a single thing that Trump did to benefit the people? Got it.... Thanks for another laugh.
Weren't you alive during the Trump administration? And don't you obsessively follow the news in the US? Suddenly amnesia. Low inflation, no war, low gas prices, controlling the border, record stock market. Just a few things. No objective person can suggest things are better today than they were under Trump. The only mistake Trump made was following the advice of the leftists and closing down the country. A purely political recommendation from Fauci and corrupt politicians designed to harm his reelection chances. It worked.
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Imagine living in a time when a Kennedy is not considered a sufficient liberal ideologue for the Dems. Old Joe has a bust of RFK in his office, but the radicalized leftists of today are treating RFK, Jr like he is a loon. Old school JFK/RFK liberals were proponents of free speech and opposed senseless wars. No place for those types today. Instead, dissent must be crushed by all means. Political opponents must be imprisoned as in the USSR.
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Weren't you alive during the Trump administration? And don't you obsessively follow the news in the US? Suddenly amnesia. Low inflation, no war, low gas prices, controlling the border, record stock market. Just a few things. No objective person can suggest things are better today than they were under Trump. The only mistake Trump made was following the advice of the leftists and closing down the country. A purely political recommendation from Fauci and corrupt politicians designed to harm his reelection chances. It worked.
Low inflation, no war, low gas prices, controlling the border, record stock market.
Utter BS... Inflation and gas prices are not determined by the US President. They are the consequence of the workings of a global market.
That so-called "record stock market" was actually below Obama's and Clinton's numbers. The dow annualized return for Trump was 11.8%. Obama's was 12.1% and Clinton's was 15.9%
There is also no war under Biden, so that's no argument and this "controlling the border" stuff is just right wing propaganda.
Now name one thing that Trump did that actually benefited to people....
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Low inflation, no war, low gas prices, controlling the border, record stock market.
Utter BS... Inflation and gas prices are not determined by the US President. They are the consequence of the workings of a global market.
That so-called "record stock market" was actually below Obama's and Clinton's numbers. The dow annualized return for Trump was 11.8%. Obama's was 12.1% and Clinton's was 15.9%
There is also no war under Biden, so that's no argument and this "controlling the border" stuff is just right wing propaganda.
Now name one thing that Trump did that actually benefited to people....
I guess they don't teach economics in those highly touted socialist schools in "Europe." The hyperinflation experienced in the US is almost solely the product of Old Joe's decision to pump trillions of dollars into the economy following COVID. A literal ocean of money which fueled hyper demand for products that could not be met (ironically because the Dems had paid many people not to work). The classic high demand and low supply scenario which caused prices to skyrocket. There is no war under Ukraine Joe? HA HA HA. Tell that to the people of Ukraine where the US has already spent hundreds of billions with the net result of the entire destruction of many regions, deaths of tens of thousands of Ukrainians, and no end in sight. And US military advisors now in the combat zones. The Ukranians will curse Biden's name for centuries. Just as the S. Vietnamese curse LBJ and Nixon.
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RFK is rising in the polls as disaster after disaster follows the Biden clown show. Just wait until thousands cross the border next.
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RFK will make a perfect third-party candidate. An option for Dems and independents who can't take anymore of Old Joe's clown show.
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RFK will make a perfect third-party candidate. An option for Dems and independents who can't take anymore of Old Joe's clown show.
I doubt he will run a Third-Party campaign. He seems loyal to the Democratic party in spite of his unconventional political views…
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I doubt he will run a Third-Party campaign. He seems loyal to the Democratic party in spite of his unconventional political views…
He's a loose cannon and not dependent on the corrupt political establishment. Bernie had to play the game after the nomination was stolen from him, but RFK can do whatever he pleases. He is not under the thumb of ruling cadre.
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Ukraine Joe is apparently frightened to debate RFK. The Dems apparently are not going to allow him to have a primary debate. The fix is already in. They changed the traditional order of the primaries to allow a state in which Old Joe has done well to go first. Election interference. The Russians could take lessons from our corrupt political establishment on how to fix an election. They are amateurs compared to these guys.
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With Ukraine Joe's poll numbers cratering to historic lows this week and the indictments pending, you wonder how long before other Dems start to jump into the race. If RFK can garner 19% right off the bat, almost any mainstream candidate could defeat Biden in the primary. No incumbent has been this weak since Jimmy Carter. The sharks are circling. How long before Biden suddenly drops out of the race?
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Come out of the basement and debate Joe. This isn't 2020 where you can hide in the basement.
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I knew this was coming.
NY Post: Robert Kennedy Jr. blames CIA for JFK assassination
Democratic White House contender Robert Kennedy Jr. blames the CIA for the Nov. 22, 1963, assassination of his uncle, President John F. Kennedy — proclaiming it “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
Kennedy made the bombshell accusation about a murder that’s spun many conspiracy theories during an interview Sunday with John Catsimatidis on WABC 770 AM’s “Cats Roundtable.”
“There is overwhelming evidence that the CIA was involved in his murder. I think it’s beyond a reasonable doubt at this point,” Kennedy said of JFK’s assassination in a motorcade in Dallas, Texas.
“The evidence is overwhelming that the CIA was involved in the murder, and in the cover-up.”
Kennedy Jr. cited James Douglas book, “JFK and the Unspeakable” as compiling the most evidence on the topic — and labeled denials of the CIA’s role as a “60 year coverup.”
https://nypost.com/2023/05/07/robert-kennedy-jr-blames-cia-for-john-f-kennedy-assassination/
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After the border disaster starts to unfold this week, the Dem challengers will surge in the polls. If even an outlier like RFK Jr. is polling at 20%, any legitimate challenger could defeat Old Joe as his poll numbers crater. There is also widespread panic among the Deep State as Trump surges. After his performance last night on CNN and the standing ovations from the crowd, those leftists won't allow Ukraine Joe to blow this election. He will be given an excuse to drop out of the race. Suddenly he will be too old or ill.
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The Dems continue to fracture under Old Joe's disastrous presidency. Dennis Kucinich has become RFK's campaign manager. The Deep State must be getting nervous. The time is coming for them to decide if Ukraine Joe can win or whether his campaign has to be sabotaged by a real criminal investigation into the corruption of Biden, Inc. Sending Dirty Hunter to the big house will be a sign.
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I don't think RFK is a serious threat to Biden's nomination. His views on vaccines and Ukraine likely disqualify him in the eyes of the majority of Democratic primary voters.
I welcome his participation in the primaries. And in the 60th anniversary year of the JFK assassination, it will be interesting to see if he publicly presses Biden on declassifying the rest of the JFK files.
Aside from those things, I doubt that Biden has anything to worry about in the Democratic primaries.
The real problem for Biden is his age. At 80 years old, there's a higher probability that he doesn't finish a second term. So the potential for a "President Harris" is higher in Biden's second term and there's a chance that her unpopularity could hurt Biden in the General election...
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I don't think RFK is a serious threat to Biden's nomination. His views on vaccines and Ukraine likely disqualify him in the eyes of the majority of Democratic primary voters.
I welcome his participation in the primaries. And in the 60th anniversary year of the JFK assassination, it will be interesting to see if he publicly presses Biden on declassifying the rest of the JFK files.
Aside from those things, I doubt that Biden has anything to worry about in the Democratic primaries.
The real problem for Biden is his age. At 80 years old, there's a higher probability that he doesn't finish a second term. So the potential for a "President Harris" is higher in Biden's second term and there's a chance that her unpopularity could hurt Biden in the General election...
Agree and the fix is in. Either the Dems will ensure that Biden gets the nomination, as they did with Hillary when Bernie was cleaning her clock, or they will force Biden to drop out on some pretext about his health if they don't think he can win. Biden is a formidable candidate with the backing of leftist media and corrupt justice system. It would be almost impossible for any opponent to overcome those powerful forces combined with the changes in the election laws such as 50 days of early voting. The outlier result of 2020 is likely to repeat itself. Trump is the only person in history who could even have a chance to win under those circumstances. A Trump-Tim Scott ticket would be interesting. I like DeSantis as well, but not sure he has the moxie to beat Trump or Biden. More appeal to independents than Trump but he will lose the Trump base.
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RFK, Jr continues to surge in the most recent polls. He is now over 20%. What a clown show field for the Dems compared to the quality candidates on the Republican side. Trump, DeSantis, Scott, and several others would make outstanding presidents. Any random person on the street would be better than Old Joe. Has anyone actually seen him recently?
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The fix is really in on the Dem side. No debates even though RFK has over 20 percent support in the polls. He is getting the Bernie treatment. And Old Joe even changed the order of the primaries to put more friendly states earlier in the campaign. Talk about election interference. Instead of doing poorly in Iowa and New Hampshire and having to drop out like LBJ, Ukraine Joe just put a state where he knows he can do well first. He has already gone into hiding. No one has been able to ask him a question. He is making no campaign appearances.
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The fix is really in on the Dem side. No debates even though RFK has over 20 percent support in the polls. He is getting the Bernie treatment. And Old Joe even changed the order of the primaries to put more friendly states earlier in the campaign. Talk about election interference. Instead of doing poorly in Iowa and New Hampshire and having to drop out like LBJ, Ukraine Joe just put a state where he knows he can do well first. He has already gone into hiding. No one has been able to ask him a question. He is making no campaign appearances.
Worse than Bernie. At least Bernie got to debate Hillary and Biden. The news media is treating RFK Jr worse than they did Bernie too...
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RFK continues to pick up support as Ukraine Joe's mental and physical struggles continue. RFK was just endorsed by founder of Twitter. He is over 20% in the polls despite being a rabid anti-vaccine proponent. What a clown show on the Dem side. Of course the fix is in unless the deep state decides Old Joe is not up to the task, and then he will suddenly drop out.
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RFK continues to expose the numerous disasters occurring under Ukraine Joe. His trip to the border to highlight that catastrophe was brilliant. He is at over 20% in a rigged election. Two-thirds of Americans have indicated that a second term for Old Joe would be a "disaster." Not just bad but a "disaster." This is the guy who supposedly got the most votes in American history. But everyone agrees he is a complete failure.
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I doubt he will run a Third-Party campaign. He seems loyal to the Democratic party in spite of his unconventional political views…
I guess his loyalty ran out:
"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. teased an announcement on Friday that he said would create a "sea change in American politics" amid speculation that the Democratic candidate may leave the party."
Kennedy's announcement is set for Monday, October 9, in Philadelphia.
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I suspect RFK Jr. will pull in a few rabid anti-vaccine voters. If RFK Jr. runs in November as an independent after losing the Democratic nomination, I'm not certain this will help Trump.
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RFK all the way! LOL. The Dem party is even too nutty for RFK Jr. And that is far out in the loon atmosphere.
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RFK all the way! LOL. The Dem party is even too nutty for RFK Jr. And that is far out in the loon atmosphere.
"He’s been very nice to me, I’ve actually had a very nice relationship with him over the years. He’s a very smart guy, and a good guy.
He’s a common sense guy and so am I. So, whether you’re conservative or liberal, common sense is common sense. A lot of what I run on is common sense."
--Trump on RFK Jr
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"He’s been very nice to me, I’ve actually had a very nice relationship with him over the years. He’s a very smart guy, and a good guy.
He’s a common sense guy and so am I. So, whether you’re conservative or liberal, common sense is common sense. A lot of what I run on is common sense."
--Trump on RFK Jr
Yes, another smart political move by Trump. RFK has no chance to win. No need alienate anyone who might consider voting for him. What's remarkable is that even RFK Jr with his many nutty conspiracy theories is not crazy enough for the current Dem clown show. He had to leave because of that circus.
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RFK all the way! LOL. The Dem party is even too nutty for RFK Jr. And that is far out in the loon atmosphere.
Now that Kennedy is going to run as an independent, and take votes away from Trump rather than Biden, Hannity (and Fox) suddenly doesn't like him so much.
How things can change so quickly..... :D
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Jill Stein has entered the race on behalf of the Green Party. That's more terrible news for Old Joe. In 2016, the margin of Trump's victory in several swing states was in the range of votes cast for Stein by leftists. Obama and most other Dem establishment types are desperately trying to get Ukraine Joe to drop out of the race. He doesn't seem to be taking the hint, though.
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The Dems are frantic to keep RFK Jr off the ballot. I guess "democracy" only goes one way.