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Off Topic => News - Off Topic - Weird & Wacky => Topic started by: Joe Elliott on December 01, 2022, 12:57:43 PM
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Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.
Mexico owes its young democracy to its elections institute. The president wants to dismantle it
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexico-owes-its-young-democracy-to-its-elections-institute-the-president-wants-to-dismantle-it/ar-AA14Mrk1?cvid=4c6d2d1881ec46729083cb144249c6b7
It appears that President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is Mexico's Left-Wing Trump who wants to have permanent control of Mexico's government. Why else dismantle a system that brought Democracy to Mexico? What was wrong with this system? If it ain't broke, why fix it? Because, I suspect, Obrador believes he can't permanently depend on the support of the people of Mexico. He has their support at the moment and he wants to use their support to make this permanent. Disastrous if the people of Mexico allow this to happen.
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Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.
Mexico owes its young democracy to its elections institute. The president wants to dismantle it
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexico-owes-its-young-democracy-to-its-elections-institute-the-president-wants-to-dismantle-it/ar-AA14Mrk1?cvid=4c6d2d1881ec46729083cb144249c6b7
It appears that President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is Mexico's Left-Wing Trump who wants to have permanent control of Mexico's government. Why else dismantle a system that brought Democracy to Mexico? What was wrong with this system? If it ain't broke, why fix it? Because, I suspect, Obrador believes he can't permanently depend on the support of the people of Mexico. He has their support at the moment and he wants to use their support to make this permanent. Disastrous if the people of Mexico allow this to happen.
Are they doing things in Mexico like arresting political opponents in predawn tactical raids, suppressing free speech, and controlling the mass media and social media as a propaganda arm of the state? At least Mexico doesn't sponsor endless foreign wars to enrich their political establishment. The Mexican leftists are amateurs compared to their American counterparts in undermining democracy.
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I remember the Dems and leftist media crying a river about the "Lock Her Up" chant at Trump rallies in 2016 contending that only in a banana republic does anyone suggest jailing their political opponent. But fast forward to the last few years, and there is a relentless desire to "lock up" Trump for anything. They have expended years of investigation looking for any possible way to derail the possibility of reelection in 2024. Why not let the voters decide? Why the reversal in viewpoint that "locking up" political opponents is the stuff of dictatorships and banana republics? Suddenly it is the way to "protect Democracy" by allowing the legal system to jail politicians instead of allowing the voters to decide who wins elections. The hypocrisy is astounding. Trump was impeached for a phone call to Ukraine in which he suggested they investigate Hunter Biden. It was deemed asking a foreign government to influence US elections. But Old Joe recently went to Saudia Arbia and begged the Saudis not to cut the supply of oil until after the midterm election. A blatant example of seeking foreign influence in an election. And nothing.
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Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.
Mexico owes its young democracy to its elections institute. The president wants to dismantle it
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexico-owes-its-young-democracy-to-its-elections-institute-the-president-wants-to-dismantle-it/ar-AA14Mrk1?cvid=4c6d2d1881ec46729083cb144249c6b7
It appears that President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is Mexico's Left-Wing Trump who wants to have permanent control of Mexico's government. Why else dismantle a system that brought Democracy to Mexico? What was wrong with this system? If it ain't broke, why fix it? Because, I suspect, Obrador believes he can't permanently depend on the support of the people of Mexico. He has their support at the moment and he wants to use their support to make this permanent. Disastrous if the people of Mexico allow this to happen.
Maybe the 6-7 million Mexicans who are living in the U.S. illegally should return to Mexico to ensure that their country does not become a dictatorship.
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I wonder if the President of Mexico puts classified documents in his garage or has the Chinese finance a "think tank" to pay him millions between jobs. I'm sure glad the US doesn't have corruption and incompetence like that.
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Maybe the 6-7 million Mexicans who are living in the U.S. illegally should return to Mexico to ensure that their country does not become a dictatorship.
Better yet, the hardest-core MAGA supporters should be deported to dictatorship countries where they could be happy.
The US would be a much better place if Mormons and Evangelicals were mass-deported to fundamentalist countries. But they're not vulnerable and poor like the non-documented whom Griffith sees as trash.
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Global Freedom Index Scores: Mexico vs Ukraine
Mexico - 60/100
Mexico has been an electoral democracy since 2000, and alternation in power between parties is routine at both the federal and state levels. However, the country suffers from severe rule of law deficits that limit full citizen enjoyment of political rights and civil liberties. Violence perpetrated by organized criminals, corruption among government officials, human rights abuses by both state and nonstate actors, and rampant impunity are among the most visible of Mexico’s many governance challenges.
Ukraine - 61/100
Ukraine has enacted a number of positive reforms since the protest-driven ouster of then president Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. However, corruption remains endemic, and the government’s initiatives to combat it have met resistance and experienced setbacks. Attacks against journalists, civil society activists, and members of minority groups are frequent, and police responses are often inadequate. Russia occupies the autonomous Ukrainian region of Crimea, which it annexed in 2014, and its military supports armed separatists in the eastern Donbas area.
United States - 83/100
The United States is a federal republic whose people benefit from a vibrant political system, a strong rule-of-law tradition, robust freedoms of expression and religious belief, and a wide array of other civil liberties. However, in recent years its democratic institutions have suffered erosion, as reflected in rising political polarization and extremism, partisan pressure on the electoral process, bias and dysfunction in the criminal justice system, harmful policies on immigration and asylum seekers, and growing disparities in wealth, economic opportunity, and political influence.
https://freedomhouse.org/country/ukraine/freedom-world/2022
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Better yet, the hardest-core MAGA supporters should be deported to dictatorship countries where they could be happy.
The US would be a much better place if Mormons and Evangelicals were mass-deported to fundamentalist countries. But they're not vulnerable and poor like the non-documented whom Griffith sees as trash.
You want to mass deport people based on their religious faith? Thankfully the US doesn't engage in that kind of bigotry. How many "non-documented" people are trying to get into Canada? Any? I guess even they are not that desperate. And, of course, Canada can talk a good game about the "poor" and "vulnerable" so long as they stay in the US and the Canadians don't have to pay for them. "Black face" Trudeau doesn't take kindly to any outsiders who threaten his frat boy racist culture.
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You want to mass deport people based on their religious faith?
I knew you couldn't get anything right when it comes to politics. I said the US would be better off without evangelicals and Mormons because of their arch-right fundamentalist views. They are partly why the Republican Party is xenophobic and racist. They're largely why the Supreme Court is stacked on the far-right, why the likes of Trump got elected and there's so much polarization in America. Why there's dog-whistles like send them back. Wait a minute: you think all that is good for America.
Thankfully the US doesn't engage in that kind of bigotry.
Sure. And America invented industrialized slavery, the concentration camp, the paramilitary racist police force and Fox News/alt-right racialism. It maintains a virtual "slave class" that does most of the hard work for low wages. One of its two main political parties, the Republicans, is the most racist bigoted hateful party in the G7.
How many "non-documented" people are trying to get into Canada? Any? I guess even they are not that desperate.
We don't have a Hollywood promoting my country as the "best in the world" and "exceptional". Many who can make it to the border think the USA is welcoming and so they naively head there. By far, most undocumented in the US find honest work and pay taxes. The majority of Latinos in some places are conservatives. The thing you should be making possible is fast-tracking their citizenship.
Canada provided sanctuary for Native Americans fleeing ethnic genocide, "Underground Railroad" people fleeing slavery and torture, and "draft-dodgers" unwilling to fight your racist war in Viet Nam. We have to pick up the pieces when your country turns to a form of neo-fascism.
And, of course, Canada can talk a good game about the "poor" and "vulnerable" so long as they stay in the US and the Canadians don't have to pay for them."
At least we're acknowledging them as people needing understanding, not lumping them together as criminals who should be deported. Canada's attitude is that one gets a 10-to-1 return on what is spend on helping immigrants. We know that preventive healthcare for the poor saves billions if it prevents the poor from their injury or condition requiring emergency admittance. Affordable or free tuition pays dividends.
Didn't I read that the Trump family fortune started in Canada?
"Black face" Trudeau doesn't take kindly to any outsiders who threaten his frat boy racist culture.
Trudeau's not a Republican. But he's an ecomomic conservative, so he would sit down with your party for trade and economic discussions. He worked out a wonderful North American trade deal with Trump a few years ago that we're quite happy with. And I don't hear Mexico complaining.
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I knew you couldn't get anything right when it comes to politics. I said the US would be better off without evangelicals and Mormons because of their arch-right fundamentalist views. They are partly why the Republican Party is xenophobic and racist. They're largely why the Supreme Court is stacked on the far-right, why the likes of Trump got elected and there's so much polarization in America. Why there's dog-whistles like send them back. Wait a minute: you think all that is good for America.
When you state that people should be mass deported based on their religion, that is far out stuff circa 1933. There is no sugar coating that kind of thing. It's unclear to me why you apparently find these folks to be so objectionable. How exactly would the US get rid of these "evangelicals" and "Mormons"? Send them to camps? Imagine someone making that kind of statement about Jews or Muslims? The republican party is "racist" but not your elitist frat boy leader who dressed in blackface and an afro while jumping around sticking his tongue out is hunky dory? That's different. LOL.
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When you state that people should be mass deported based on their religion, that is far out stuff circa 1933. There is no sugar coating that kind of thing. It's unclear to me why you apparently find these folks to be so objectionable.
It escapes me why certain evangelicals and Mormons find "dreamers" and the undocumented so objectionable that they would advocate their deportation. But the American Christian Right are not benign charitable common-good organizations like in other countries.
"The new political philosophy must be defined by us [conservatives]
in moral terms, packaged in non-religious language, and propagated
throughout the country by our new coalition. When political power is
achieved, the moral majority will have the opportunity to re-create
this great nation."
-- Paul Weyrich, co-founder of the Heritage Foundation
What provoked Weyrich was the IRS prohibiting whites-only K-12 private academies from full tax-exempt status. And one doesn't have to look far to see the Mormons, a fruitcake cult more than a religion, were attracted to racism from the start.
"When Mormons Aspired to Be a 'White and Delightsome' People"
-- The Atlantic ( Link (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/mormons-race-max-perry-mueller/539994/) )
Now I'm not saying everyone of them is a racist, just the really hardcore fundamentalists. "And some, I assume, are good people."
How exactly would the US get rid of these "evangelicals" and "Mormons"? Send them to camps? Imagine someone making that kind of statement about Jews or Muslims?
Why aren't you offended with how this started, then? "Maybe the 6-7 million Mexicans who are living in the U.S. illegally should return to Mexico." Where are American Jews and Muslims promoting racism and getting hard-line Right-wingers running the Government and the Supreme Court? What Jews and Muslims have dreamed of or even tried to take over state legislatures and the federal Capitol through violence?
The republican party is "racist" but not your elitist frat boy leader who dressed in blackface and an afro while jumping around sticking his tongue out is hunky dory? That's different. LOL.
Gee, it must be nice to have a blemish-free youth. If not, share with us what stupid stuff you did. And be judged on it.
And if Canadians had gotten rid of Trudeau, it would have been cancel-culture you would be complaining about. Better to have a leader who acknowledges his faults, sincerely apologies, tries to make amends and doesn't repeat past mistakes than what your party had for de facto leader.
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It escapes me why certain evangelicals and Mormons find "dreamers" and the undocumented so objectionable that they would advocate their deportation. But the American Christian Right are not benign charitable common-good organizations like in other countries.
"The new political philosophy must be defined by us [conservatives]
in moral terms, packaged in non-religious language, and propagated
throughout the country by our new coalition. When political power is
achieved, the moral majority will have the opportunity to re-create
this great nation."
-- Paul Weyrich, co-founder of the Heritage Foundation
What provoked Weyrich was the IRS prohibiting whites-only K-12 private academies from full tax-exempt status. And one doesn't have to look far to see the Mormons, a fruitcake cult more than a religion, were attracted to racism from the start.
"When Mormons Aspired to Be a 'White and Delightsome' People"
-- The Atlantic ( Link (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/mormons-race-max-perry-mueller/539994/) )
Now I'm not saying everyone of them is a racist, just the really hardcore fundamentalists. "And some, I assume, are good people."
Why aren't you offended with how this started, then? "Maybe the 6-7 million Mexicans who are living in the U.S. illegally should return to Mexico." Where are American Jews and Muslims promoting racism and getting hard-line Right-wingers running the Government and the Supreme Court? What Jews and Muslims have dreamed of or even tried to take over state legislatures and the federal Capitol through violence?
Gee, it must be nice to have a blemish-free youth. If not, share with us what stupid stuff you did. And be judged on it.
And if Canadians had gotten rid of Trudeau, it would have been cancel-culture you would be complaining about. Better to have a leader who acknowledges his faults, sincerely apologies, tries to make amends and doesn't repeat past mistakes than what your party had for de facto leader.
Individuals who come to the US by streaming crossing the border are coming here illegally. Under the laws of most every country, they would be deported if those laws were enforced. You can't get off an international flight and simply run out of the airport. You would be arrested, imprisoned, and deported. There is a process for legal entry. I'm not aware of the Mormons or any religious group expressing any opinion differently from the majority of Americans who want an orderly and lawful process instead of anarchy.
There should be immigration reform that provides a legal process to cross the border and work and return to Mexico but only if the border is also made secure. Neither the Republicans nor Dems want that, however. The Republicans want the cheap labor for businesses and the Dems want a flood of future voters. The illegal immigration process has already flipped several border states to Dems. The politicians don't care a whit about the hardships imposed on those who are being exploited and dying making the trip. They don't care a whit about the drugs and crime being brought. Over 100K American overdose deaths last year from drugs crossing the border. More American deaths than in the entire Vietnam war. It is just about power and wealth to our corrupt politicians like Biden. It has nothing to do with humanitarian principles.
I certainly never wore blackface and acted like Trudeau. Nor do I know a single person who ever did so. None. That was despicable. An overt racist act. He was 29 years old when he did this! Not an innocent youth. He didn't do this in the 1800s but in the 21st Century. Good grief. A nearly 30-year-old man wearing blackface on multiple occasions can't be excused just because he is a socialist.