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Off Topic => News - Off Topic - Weird & Wacky => Topic started by: Joe Elliott on October 21, 2022, 11:58:40 PM
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Russia and the Confederacy
The following article draws parallels between Russia of 2022 and the Confederacy of 1861.
Opinions | Russia is suffering from the same problems that doomed the Confederacy - by the Washington Post
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/opinions-russia-is-suffering-from-the-same-problems-that-doomed-the-confederacy/ar-AA13dBKa?ocid=vt_fbmsn&cvid=89e2d6f06d1a459982ee96b2b0ede6c9
There are some comparisons. The wildly confident expectations and predictions of a quick victory. The difficulty of producing enough military supplies. The difficulties of getting enough volunteers (more of a problem for Russia than the Confederacy, but a problem for both).
A comparison that the article did not make was:
The Confederacy - "Cotton is King" - caused them to think Europe would help.
Russia - "Oil and Gas is King" - causing them to discount European aid to Ukraine.
Sometimes, a strong and just cause can cause countries to go against narrow self interest concerns. Particularly in 2022. After all, success of the Confederacy in the 1860's did not imperial the survival of any European countries. Success of Russia in 2022 does.
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Russia and the confederacy go hand in hand with MAGA Republican traitors. MAGAs support the confederacy and Putin. They are anti American traitors.
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That is perhaps the single dumbest historical analogy that I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. Russia and the Confederacy? Wow. How about a better comparison using Vietnam and Ukraine? With a focus on how and why America is constantly drawn into these regional conflicts with a policy of creeping escalation that lasts for decades until the country is destroyed, and hundreds of thousands are dead for no reason.
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Another terrible historical analogy.
Why not the Iran-Iraq war? Or the Mexican-American war?
The Russia-Ukraine war is a regional conflict with more similarities to those two prior wars that I mentioned…
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That is perhaps the single dumbest historical analogy that I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. Russia and the Confederacy? Wow. How about a better comparison using Vietnam and Ukraine? With a focus on how and why America is constantly drawn into these regional conflicts with a policy of creeping escalation that lasts for decades until the country is destroyed, and hundreds of thousands are dead for no reason.
A country is destroyed and thousands are dead because a mass murderer named Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine and started an illegal war.
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A country is destroyed and thousands are dead because a mass murderer named Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine and started an illegal war.
Putin was emboldened by the weakness and incompetence of Old Joe. He did not invade while Trump was president. Old Joe's inability to formulate a policy to bring the war to an end has ensured that the level of destruction has been maximized. It will just go on and on and on. Ukranians and Russians will die due to his incompetence. But he is not Trump. So it's all good to you - right? The ends justify the means. The only objective is to keep Trump out of office. If that means suppressing speech, corrupting the legal system, and even allowing an entire country to be destroyed, it's fine.
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Putin was emboldened by the weakness and incompetence of Old Joe. He did not invade while Trump was president. Old Joe's inability to formulate a policy to bring the war to an end has ensured that the level of destruction has been maximized. It will just go on and on and on. Ukranians and Russians will die due to his incompetence. But he is not Trump. So it's all good to you - right? The ends justify the means. The only objective is to keep Trump out of office. If that means suppressing speech, corrupting the legal system, and even allowing an entire country to be destroyed, it's fine.
Same old stale Russian propaganda. :D :D :D
This isn't Biden's war to end. This is Putin's war to end. This is Ukraine's war to fight. President Biden and our allies are only aiding Ukraine.
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Same old stale Russian propaganda. :D :D :D
This isn't Biden's war to end. This is Putin's war to end. This is Ukraine's war to fight. President Biden and our allies are only aiding Ukraine.
LOL. You are finally learning. No one thought such a thing possible. The US has intervened in a war in which it has no way to end. We are basically at the mercy of Putin. Does he fight this war for five years, ten, fifty? It is entirely up to Russia to decide how long it goes on because weak Joe and his clown show have not shown strength, formulated any objective, or plan for how to bring an end to it. It is Vietnam all over again. Creeping escalation into a regional conflict with no way to force an end. Just on and on and on with the deaths and destruction. Years from now they will curse Biden the same way they curse LBJ in Vietnam.
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LOL. You are finally learning. No one thought such a thing possible. The US has intervened in a war in which it has no way to end. We are basically at the mercy of Putin. Does he fight this war for five years, ten, fifty? It is entirely up to Russia to decide how long it goes on because weak Joe and his clown show have not shown strength, formulated any objective, or plan for how to bring an end to it. It is Vietnam all over again. Creeping escalation into a regional conflict with no way to force an end. Just on and on and on with the deaths and destruction. Years from now they will curse Biden the same way they curse LBJ in Vietnam.
The propaganda here from you is amazing. :D :D :D
Poll after poll shows that majority of Americans support Ukraine and President Joe Biden on Ukraine.
Americans Hold Positive Feelings Toward NATO and Ukraine, See Russia as an Enemy
Majorities of U.S. adults have favorable views of Ukraine itself, as well as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and have confidence in Ukraine’s leader, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. At the same time, few have positive opinions of Russia or confidence in its ruler, President Vladimir Putin. And a 64% majority view Russia as an enemy to the United States, rather than as a competitor or partner.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/05/10/americans-hold-positive-feelings-toward-nato-and-ukraine-see-russia-as-an-enemy/
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The propaganda here from you is amazing. :D :D :D
Poll after poll shows that majority of Americans support Ukraine and President Joe Biden on Ukraine.
Americans Hold Positive Feelings Toward NATO and Ukraine, See Russia as an Enemy
Majorities of U.S. adults have favorable views of Ukraine itself, as well as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and have confidence in Ukraine’s leader, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. At the same time, few have positive opinions of Russia or confidence in its ruler, President Vladimir Putin. And a 64% majority view Russia as an enemy to the United States, rather than as a competitor or partner.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/05/10/americans-hold-positive-feelings-toward-nato-and-ukraine-see-russia-as-an-enemy/
LOL. "Favorable views"? Why didn't they ask about funding an endless war to the cost of countless billions with no plan or policy for ending it? And why wouldn't the majority of Americans "have positive feeling" toward Ukraine and see "Russia as an Enemy"? That is the propaganda line they are being fed by the corrupt political establishment and media. Most Americans couldn't find Ukraine on a map and had never heard of it before. They don't give a rat's behind about Ukraine.
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LOL. "Favorable views"? Why didn't they ask about funding an endless war to the cost of countless billions with no plan or policy for ending it? And why wouldn't the majority of Americans "have positive feeling" toward Ukraine and see "Russia as an Enemy"? That is the propaganda line they are being fed by the corrupt political establishment and media. Most Americans couldn't find Ukraine on a map and had never heard of it before. They don't give a rat's behind about Ukraine.
Why are you so anti Ukraine?
Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on a map either.
19 times Trump proved he hasn't got a clue about the most basic world geography
https://www.indy100.com/news/trump-geography-world-map-fail-japan-finland-greenland-can-t-name-ukraine-9307641
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Why are you so anti Ukraine?
Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on a map either.
19 times Trump proved he hasn't got a clue about the most basic world geography
https://www.indy100.com/news/trump-geography-world-map-fail-japan-finland-greenland-can-t-name-ukraine-9307641
I'm not anti-Ukraine. I'm pro America. I know that you can't understand that simple concept. Your only motivation is anti-Trump hatred and obsession. Any means justifies the ends.
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I'm not anti-Ukraine. I'm pro America. I know that you can't understand that simple concept. Your only motivation is anti-Trump hatred and obsession. Any means justifies the ends.
I'm pro America.
No, you're not. You have convinced yourself you are but you are anything but..
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I'm not anti-Ukraine. I'm pro America. I know that you can't understand that simple concept. Your only motivation is anti-Trump hatred and obsession. Any means justifies the ends.
If you are "pro America", then you would be supporting President Biden and our allies' efforts to help Ukraine defeat Russia since it's a matter of our national security. Instead you attack President Biden for being pro America. It doesn't make sense.
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If you are "pro America", then you would be supporting President Biden and our allies' efforts to help Ukraine defeat Russia since it's a matter of our national security. Instead you attack President Biden for being pro America. It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense to you because you have been radicalized by anti-Trump propaganda. Your endless posts on that sole topic dating back for years now displays some type of compulsion with Trump. It is possible to oppose an endless war in the United States. That is what happened under LBJ during Vietnam. Do you think that blind obedience to Ukraine Joe with his numerous documented lies is the "pro-American" view? LOL. Do you still believe the lie that Russia blew up its own pipeline? The Biden administration told that lie numerous times. They have not corrected it. Leftists and the media bought it without given a moment's thought to whether it made any sense. Biden and his family are corrupt. They took millions from Ukraine in bribes and corruption. Now the world is paying for it. The war would never have begun under Trump. He would end it quickly if elected. Under Old Joe it will just go on and on with no plan or policy for ending it until Ukraine is a complete ruin.
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It doesn't make sense to you because you have been radicalized by anti-Trump propaganda. Your endless posts on that sole topic dating back for years now displays some type of compulsion with Trump.
What "anti Trump propaganda"?
Trump was impeached twice and now has been criminally indicted twice for his crimes. All of that is true. How is that "propaganda"?
It is possible to oppose an endless war in the United States. That is what happened under LBJ during Vietnam.
There is no "endless war in the United States". The war is in Ukraine, and there is no American boots on the ground in Ukraine.
So no, this is not Vietnam.
Do you think that blind obedience to Ukraine Joe with his numerous documented lies is the "pro-American" view? LOL. Do you still believe the lie that Russia blew up its own pipeline? The Biden administration told that lie numerous times. They have not corrected it. Leftists and the media bought it without given a moment's thought to whether it made any sense. Biden and his family are corrupt. They took millions from Ukraine in bribes and corruption. Now the world is paying for it. The war would never have begun under Trump. He would end it quickly if elected. Under Old Joe it will just go on and on with no plan or policy for ending it until Ukraine is a complete ruin.
And yet, right wing Republicans have no evidence of this so called Biden "corruption" through all their so called investigations.
Years of phony investigations against Biden and no evidence of nothing. That's what you call a witch hunt. Going after Biden based on conspiracy theories because the right hates him. But when Trump is investigated for his real crimes and corruption, all the evidence of his crimes are found, but right wingers still cry "witch hunt" when Trump is guilty of crimes against the United States.
Only years old Russian disinformation conspiracy claims from 2015 that's already been debunked. That is not "evidence of corruption".
All of those phony "Biden corruption" claims have been already been debunked by previous GOP investigations that found absolutely nothing. Now magically the GOP claims they have "new evidence", when a month ago they found nothing, but claimed today they can't "find this new evidence". So pathetic. This is the same group of liars that tried to steal the presidency from Biden with fake lies and conspiracy theories of "voter fraud".
Meanwhile, the most corrupt criminal in the world, Donald Trump, is going to be arrested tomorrow for espionage in Miami and you still are a huge supporter of his and try to call Biden "the corrupt one". :D :D :D
Barr Says No Need For Special Counsel For Hunter Biden Probe
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/21/948787251/barr-says-no-need-for-special-counsel-for-hunter-biden-probe-election-fraud-clai
GOP report: No wrongdoing in Biden son ties to Ukraine firm
September 23, 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-report-wrongdoing-biden-son-ties-ukraine-firm/story?id=73192146
Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden
The report delivered on Wednesday appeared to be little more than a rehashing of unproven allegations that echoed a Russian disinformation campaign.
Sept. 23, 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.htmli
House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden
After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.
May 10, 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-house-republicans-report.html
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What "anti Trump propaganda"?
Trump was impeached twice and now has been criminally indicted twice for his crimes. All of that is true. How is that "propaganda"?
There is no "endless war in the United States". The war is in Ukraine, and there is no American boots on the ground in Ukraine.
So no, this is not Vietnam.
And yet, right wing Republicans have no evidence of this so called Biden "corruption" through all their so called investigations.
Years of phony investigations against Biden and no evidence of nothing. That's what you call a witch hunt. Going after Biden based on conspiracy theories because the right hates him. But when Trump is investigated for his real crimes and corruption, all the evidence of his crimes are found, but right wingers still cry "witch hunt" when Trump is guilty of crimes against the United States.
Only years old Russian disinformation conspiracy claims from 2015 that's already been debunked. That is not "evidence of corruption".
All of those phony "Biden corruption" claims have been already been debunked by previous GOP investigations that found absolutely nothing. Now magically the GOP claims they have "new evidence", when a month ago they found nothing, but claimed today they can't "find this new evidence". So pathetic. This is the same group of liars that tried to steal the presidency from Biden with fake lies and conspiracy theories of "voter fraud".
Meanwhile, the most corrupt criminal in the world, Donald Trump, is going to be arrested tomorrow for espionage in Miami and you still are a huge supporter of his and try to call Biden "the corrupt one". :D :D :D
Barr Says No Need For Special Counsel For Hunter Biden Probe
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/21/948787251/barr-says-no-need-for-special-counsel-for-hunter-biden-probe-election-fraud-clai
GOP report: No wrongdoing in Biden son ties to Ukraine firm
September 23, 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-report-wrongdoing-biden-son-ties-ukraine-firm/story?id=73192146
Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden
The report delivered on Wednesday appeared to be little more than a rehashing of unproven allegations that echoed a Russian disinformation campaign.
Sept. 23, 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.htmli
House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden
After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.
May 10, 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-house-republicans-report.html
Imagine spending day after day after day after day cutting and pasting anti-Trump links to a JFK assassination forum. And doing this for several years. It is bizarre. What would be the purpose of such a thing? Does this same person frequent other forums unrelated to politics and just cut and paste endless links and pictures of Trudeau? And then claim it is not anti-Trump propaganda. Wow. That is De Niro "Taxi Driver" stuff.