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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Patrick Jackson on September 29, 2022, 02:56:17 AM
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Just watched Blonde movie only to see what they did to her relation with JFK.
Was it really, really like that? Who was their source?
One of the worst movies I have watched lately...
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Just watched Blonde movie only to see what they did to her relation with JFK.
Was it really, really like that? Who was their source?
One of the worst movies I have watched lately...
I've never seen the movie.... I assume it's a blast on JFK and his infatuation with Marilyn Monroe......
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I've never seen the movie.... I assume it's a blast on JFK and his infatuation with Marilyn Monroe......
As shown in the movie, it is far, far away from infatuation...
She is shown as a cheap sl*t brought to him by SS... I just wander what was the source to the movie makers for the Mailyn & JFK scene in the movie? I mean, the do say that the movie is fictionalized view of true events but it is hard to believe their relation was as shown in the movie.
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As shown in the movie, it is far, far away from infatuation...
She is shown as a cheap sl*t brought to him by SS... I just wander what was the source to the movie makers for the Mailyn & JFK scene in the movie? I mean, the do say that the movie is fictionalized view of true events but it is hard to believe their relation was as shown in the movie.
If the movie smears JFK..... Then that's what was intended.... It wasn't enough to ambush him and blow his brains out in a ghastly public execution....They continue to smear him 60 years after the murder.
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If the movie smears JFK..... Then that's what was intended.... It wasn't enough to ambush him and blow his brains out in a ghastly public execution....They continue to smear him 60 years after the murder.
The conspiracy will never end! Even the radical leftists in modern day Hollywood are out to smear JFK.
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The conspiracy will never end! Even the radical leftists in modern day Hollywood are out to smear JFK.
It's the rightwing military industrial complex/war state leftwing Hollywood/media complex.
Eisenhower warned us all about it.
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It's the rightwing military industrial complex/war state leftwing Hollywood/media complex.
Eisenhower warned us all about it.
Imagine Hollywood trying to "smear" JFK as a womanizer. I have no idea if he had a tryst with MM, but it's well documented that JFK took advantage of many young women including WH interns. He was a Bill Clinton/Harvey Weinstein type when that was deemed acceptable behavior by Hollywood. He also failed to disclose that he was taking a laundry list of drugs for his various medical conditions that would have effectively disqualified him from becoming president. But everyone was out to get him! And the only way they could do this is via an elaborate conspiracy to murder him in broad daylight in front of numerous law enforcement personnel.
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Spoken like a true right-wing nutcase. Taking a drug disqualifies one from office, but instigating a violent takeover of the US Capitol is just fine and dandy.
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Taking "a drug"! LOL. Such dishonesty. Per the Robert Halleck book that uncovered the full list of drugs being taken by JFK while president for the first time decades after his death.
Kennedy took as many as 12 medications at once, taking more during times of stress.
The medical records reveal that Kennedy variously took codeine, Demerol and methadone for pain; Ritalin, a stimulant; meprobamate andlibrium for anxiety; barbiturates for sleep; thyroid hormone; and injections of a blood derivative, gamma globulin, a medicine that combats infections.
During the Bay of Pigs fiasco in 1961, and the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962, Kennedy was taking steroids for his Addison's disease, painkillers for his back, anti-spasmodics for his colitis, antibiotics for urinary tract infections, antihistamines for his allergies, and on at least one occasion, an anti-psychotic drug to treat a severe mood change that Jackie Kennedy believed was brought on by the antihistamines.
This deluge of drugs often had side effects, including grogginess or even depression. To treat this Kennedy took more still anti-anxiety medications.
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And this is supposed to “disqualify” somebody…why exactly?
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Yes, why would taking steroids, painkillers, mood altering drugs, amphetamines and many other drugs disqualify anyone from being president who had their finger on the button? HA HA HA. Wow. But don't take my word for it, find a Ouija board and ask JFK and his advisors since they lied and covered it up during the election. Ask them why. Doesn't sound like they wanted anyone to know that.
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Yeah, those painkillers, antibiotics, and antihistamines really make a person go wacko and do insane things like wanting to ingest Clorox and nuke hurricanes. 🙄
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Imagine Hollywood trying to "smear" JFK as a womanizer. I have no idea if he had a tryst with MM, but it's well documented that JFK took advantage of many young women including WH interns. He was a Bill Clinton/Harvey Weinstein type when that was deemed acceptable behavior by Hollywood. He also failed to disclose that he was taking a laundry list of drugs for his various medical conditions that would have effectively disqualified him from becoming president. But everyone was out to get him! And the only way they could do this is via an elaborate conspiracy to murder him in broad daylight in front of numerous law enforcement personnel.
If Biden is not disqualified today because of all of his Drop dead Fred friends than JFK was just fine with his painkillers...
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If Biden is not disqualified today because of all of his Drop dead Fred friends than JFK was just fine with his painkillers...
Yes, imagine the tune that lunatic libs would be singing if it were disclosed that Trump had been taking the laundry list of drugs that JFK took while president. JFK's own wife was concerned about the impact they were having on his mental state and judgement. And that doesn't even get into the documented sexual abuse of women that was going on in the WH. JFK took a good picture, but that was about the only positive of his otherwise do nothing presidency. LBJ did more in his first 100 days as president than JFK did in his entire political career.
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It's a movie not a documentary.
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A Trump supporter pontificating about the sexual abuse of women? Now that’s hilarious.
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It's a movie not a documentary.
Correct, it is a fictional story without many proofs to be true but the thing is that many radical feminist organisations and individuals are presenting it to be true to show that men were pigs that time in movie industry.
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Radical feminist organizations? Who are these "radicals" that seem to be everywhere?
Correct, it is a fictional story without many proofs to be true but the thing is that many radical feminist organisations and individuals are presenting it to be true to show that men were pigs that time in movie industry.
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Radical feminist organizations? Who are these "radicals" that seem to be everywhere?
Well, you have feminism and radical feminism. Than you have radical lesbian feminism and they are the worst towards men because they see men as competitors to them. In any case, they are doing everything they can to expel men from everything and present men as pigs. This is the case with Blonde movie and many others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism)
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It's a movie not a documentary.
True. JFK's conduct was actually much worse than depicted in this movie. He was a Harvey Weinstein type.
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You're telling me what what the term means and I'm asking specificially who are the people?
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You're telling me what what the term means and I'm asking specificially who are the people?
You have numerous NGOs all accross the World with radical feminism agendas. They receive huge amounts of donations to present men in worst possible way. Also there is a very strong gey/lesbian loby in major world organisations and governments.
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True. JFK's conduct was actually much worse than depicted in this movie. He was a Harvey Weinstein type.
So he was like Trump. Is that what you are saying?
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So he was like Trump. Is that what you are saying?
Trump has nothing to do with JFK, but since you stupidly brought this up there were no allegations that Trump abused women or took drugs while president. Not even from a conspiracy theorist such as yourself. He was a saint while president compared to liberal icons like Bill Clinton and JFK. What matters from a national security perspective is conduct while president.
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Trump has nothing to do with JFK, but since you stupidly brought this up there were no allegations that Trump abused women or took drugs while president. Not even from a conspiracy theorist such as yourself. He was a saint while president compared to liberal icons like Bill Clinton and JFK. What matters from a national security perspective is conduct while president.
Hilarious.
Your "saint" was the biggest security risk the country has ever had.
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I think this thread is quite revealing and actually confirms everything I've always said. That is, people who think the government got it right on Kennedy's murder actually, deep down, don't like Kennedy, the family or whatever. So there's a heavy dose of bias involved.
It reminds me of the investigator who hated women in general, and whores specifically. Suppose a whore is found dead in an alley and this investigator has to find out who killed her. He'll do the least amount of work and secretly write it off as, "Eh, she deserved it."
The same here with Richard and many others who think the Feds got it right. They really don't like Kennedy and, therefore, Oswald did it alone and deep down, Kennedy "deserved it." I sure wouldn't want those kind of people investigating my loved one's murder.
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I think this thread is quite revealing and actually confirms everything I've always said. That is, people who think the government got it right on Kennedy's murder actually, deep down, don't like Kennedy, the family or whatever. So there's a heavy dose of bias involved.
It reminds me of the investigator who hated women in general, and whores specifically. Suppose a whore is found dead in an alley and this investigator has to find out who killed her. He'll do the least amount of work and secretly write it off as, "Eh, she deserved it."
The same here with Richard and many others who think the Feds got it right. They really don't like Kennedy and, therefore, Oswald did it alone and deep down, Kennedy "deserved it." I sure wouldn't want those kind of people investigating my loved one's murder.
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I think this thread is quite revealing and actually confirms everything I've always said. That is, people who think the government got it right on Kennedy's murder actually, deep down, don't like Kennedy, the family or whatever. So there's a heavy dose of bias involved.
It reminds me of the investigator who hated women in general, and whores specifically. Suppose a whore is found dead in an alley and this investigator has to find out who killed her. He'll do the least amount of work and secretly write it off as, "Eh, she deserved it."
The same here with Richard and many others who think the Feds got it right. They really don't like Kennedy and, therefore, Oswald did it alone and deep down, Kennedy "deserved it." I sure wouldn't want those kind of people investigating my loved one's murder.
My opinion of JFK has nothing do with why I believe Oswald was the assassin. It's the evidence that confirms that. Just as the evidence confirms there was a conspiracy to kill President Lincoln. If I were influenced by anti-liberal bias, then I would be onboard with conspiracy nuts who think LBJ was behind the assassination. LBJ was the most liberal president in modern history. LBJ, however, had absolutely nothing to do with the assassination.
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My opinion of JFK has nothing do with why I believe Oswald was the assassin. It's the evidence that confirms that. Just as the evidence confirms there was a conspiracy to kill President Lincoln. If I were influenced by anti-liberal bias, then I would be onboard with conspiracy nuts who think LBJ was behind the assassination. LBJ was the most liberal president in modern history. LBJ, however, had absolutely nothing to do with the assassination.
My opinion of JFK has nothing do with why I believe Oswald was the assassin. It's the evidence that confirms that.
And what evidence would that be exactly?
Do you have evidence that can show that;
- the MC rifle found at the TSBD was fired?
- the MC rifle was in Oswald's possession on 11/21/63?
- Oswald brought the MC rifle into the TSBD?
- Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired?
- Oswald was in fact the shooter?
- Oswald managed to go down the stairs unnoticed within 75 seconds after the last shot?
I don't believe you have any credible evidence for any of this, so what "evidence" are you constantly talking about?
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My opinion of JFK has nothing do with why I believe Oswald was the assassin. It's the evidence that confirms that.
And what evidence would that be exactly?
Do you have evidence that can show that;
- the MC rifle found at the TSBD was fired?
- the MC rifle was in Oswald's possession on 11/21/63?
- Oswald brought the MC rifle into the TSBD?
- Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired?
- Oswald was in fact the shooter?
- Oswald managed to go down the stairs unnoticed within 75 seconds after the last shot?
I don't believe you have any credible evidence for any of this, so what "evidence" are you constantly talking about?
Off topic and asked and answered. See WC report. See HSCA Report. If you have evidence that raises doubt of Oswald's guilt such as a concluding that "he didn't come down the stairs", please provide that to the DPD or NY Times. Don't waste your time here. Get back to us with their response.
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Off topic and asked and answered. See WC report. See HSCA Report. If you have evidence that raises doubt of Oswald's guilt such as a concluding that "he didn't come down the stairs", please provide that to the DPD or NY Times. Don't waste your time here. Get back to us with their response.
Shall I tell them that a guy calling himself Richard Smith is telling people that Oswald killed Kennedy without being able to support any of his claims with actual evidence? :D
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Off topic and asked and answered. See WC report. See HSCA Report. If you have evidence that raises doubt of Oswald's guilt such as a concluding that "he didn't come down the stairs", please provide that to the DPD or NY Times. Don't waste your time here. Get back to us with their response.
Apparently, the Loons expect LN evidence in the form of Hollywood-quality motion-picture film, indisputable infallible witnesses (priests, rabbis? people with a bionic recording device?) or their own direct verification through time-travel.
Meanwhile CTs get to pull things out of their az-se like the Shroud Letter and the ditzy Vicki Adams (I saw Jack Ruby; time me in my 3" heels, I dare you). Sandra Styles says they first went to the passenger elevator and she's "mistaken".
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Shall I tell them that a guy calling himself Richard Smith is telling people that Oswald killed Kennedy without being able to support any of his claims with actual evidence? :D
I don't believe they are as obsessed with me as you are. Why not tell "them" your evidence that leads you to conclude that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs"? If that is the case, then you have proven Oswald is innocent, and you are a conspiracy theorist as it is the only possible implication to be drawn from YOUR conclusion. Get back to us with their response. Sounds like a Pulitzer Prize winning story to exonerate Oswald. That is if they believe it and accept your "evidence." You don't do that yourself, but maybe they will have more confidence in your "evidence" than you do.
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Apparently, the Loons expect LN evidence in the form of Hollywood-quality motion-picture film, indisputable infallible witnesses (priests, rabbis? people with a bionic recording device?) or their own direct verification through time-travel.
Meanwhile CTs get to pull things out of their az-se like the Shroud Letter and the ditzy Vicki Adams (I saw Jack Ruby; time me in my 3" heels, I dare you). Sandra Styles says they first went to the passenger elevator and she's "mistaken".
All too true. The most amazing thing about an otherwise uninteresting Martin is that he reached a conclusion that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs" - the only way to have come down from the 6th floor after the assassination - but he refuses to accept the only possible implication of his OWN conclusion. That Oswald couldn't have been the 6th floor assassin since those stairs are the only way to have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom in the known timeframe. A mind-bending psychological insight into the contrarian mind. He takes issue even with his own conclusions. An exercise in self-loathing.
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I think this thread is quite revealing and actually confirms everything I've always said. That is, people who think the government got it right on Kennedy's murder actually, deep down, don't like Kennedy, the family or whatever. So there's a heavy dose of bias involved.
It reminds me of the investigator who hated women in general, and whores specifically. Suppose a whore is found dead in an alley and this investigator has to find out who killed her. He'll do the least amount of work and secretly write it off as, "Eh, she deserved it."
The same here with Richard and many others who think the Feds got it right. They really don't like Kennedy and, therefore, Oswald did it alone and deep down, Kennedy "deserved it." I sure wouldn't want those kind of people investigating my loved one's murder.
Good grief man, this is one of the stupidest things I have seen written on this forum. ???
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I don't believe they are as obsessed with me as you are. Why not tell "them" your evidence that leads you to conclude that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs"? If that is the case, then you have proven Oswald is innocent, and you are a conspiracy theorist as it is the only possible implication to be drawn from YOUR conclusion. Get back to us with their response. Sounds like a Pulitzer Prize winning story to exonerate Oswald. That is if they believe it and accept your "evidence." You don't do that yourself, but maybe they will have more confidence in your "evidence" than you do.
All this BS and no trace of even a shred of evidence for his claims.
then you have proven Oswald is innocent
This is exactly the reason why I won't let you get away with your arrogant crap. I don't need to prove anybody innocent. When you claim that Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and that he managed to get down the stairs unnoticed within 75 seconds after the last shot, it's you who needs to prove it, in order to prove his guilt.
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Apparently, the Loons expect LN evidence in the form of Hollywood-quality motion-picture film, indisputable infallible witnesses (priests, rabbis? people with a bionic recording device?) or their own direct verification through time-travel.
Meanwhile CTs get to pull things out of their az-se like the Shroud Letter and the ditzy Vicki Adams (I saw Jack Ruby; time me in my 3" heels, I dare you). Sandra Styles says they first went to the passenger elevator and she's "mistaken".
Apparently, the Loons expect LN evidence in the form of Hollywood-quality motion-picture film, indisputable infallible witnesses (priests, rabbis? people with a bionic recording device?) or their own direct verification through time-travel.
Thank you for implicitly admitting that the LNs have no evidence that shows Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired. As it becomes beyond obvious in Chapter 4 of the WC Report, it's all assumption piled on assumption!
Meanwhile CTs get to pull things out of their az-se like the Shroud Letter and the ditzy Vicki Adams (I saw Jack Ruby; time me in my 3" heels, I dare you). Sandra Styles says they first went to the passenger elevator and she's "mistaken".
Whether you like it or not, the Stroud letter (you can't even get the name right) actual exists. It's evidence (just in case you don't know what that word means). Rankin received it and buried it in his files.
Sandra Styles says they first went to the passenger elevator and she's "mistaken".
Hilariously hypocritical. First he complains that CTs ask for "indisputable infallible witnesses" (which is utter BS:) and then he himself wants to rely on Sandra Styles as if she is such an "indisputable infallible witnesses". :D
You can cherry pick what Sandra Styles allegedly said as much as you like, but in reality she has made several different statements over time and in at least one of them she even conceded that Victoria Adams may be right after all.
Also, you don't have to believe Adams or Garner. There is photographic evidence showing Sandra Styles standing in front of the TSBD entrance on Elm street at around 12:36. A further time indicator of her presence there, at that time, is that she re-entered the building through the front door before the building was locked down.
There is no way for Adams and Styles to get to the front entrance of the building at 12:36, unless they did in fact leave the 4th floor when Adams and Garner said they did. Nobody needs a time machine for that, just a functional brain.
I have already offered you to discuss the Adams/Styles/Garner timeline and you ran away from it as hard as you can. Pardon me for not taking seriously anything you have to say on this subject.
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All too true. The most amazing thing about an otherwise uninteresting Martin is that he reached a conclusion that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs" - the only way to have come down from the 6th floor after the assassination - but he refuses to accept the only possible implication of his OWN conclusion. That Oswald couldn't have been the 6th floor assassin since those stairs are the only way to have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom in the known timeframe. A mind-bending psychological insight into the contrarian mind. He takes issue even with his own conclusions. An exercise in self-loathing.
he refuses to accept the only possible implication of his OWN conclusion. That Oswald couldn't have been the 6th floor assassin since those stairs are the only way to have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom in the known timeframe.
I have never refused to accept any of this. It's just another one of your many misrepresentations of the actual facts. Why would I not accept this when the preponderance of the available evidence clearly suggests this is most likely what happened.
What I don't accept is your stupid premise that I must consider Oswald to be innocent because he couldn't have come down the stairs unnoticed within 75 seconds after the last shot.
It seems all this is going way over your head or you simply ignore the distinction to keep on misrepresenting what I have actually said.
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Off topic and asked and answered. See WC report. See HSCA Report.
A cop-out and comedy gold as well. This is like the follower of another kind of religion saying “read the bible” when asked for evidence for the existence of a god.
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Apparently, the Loons expect LN evidence in the form of Hollywood-quality motion-picture film, indisputable infallible witnesses (priests, rabbis? people with a bionic recording device?) or their own direct verification through time-travel.
You have that exactly backwards. The loons know that they have insufficient conclusive evidence to support their story, so all they can do is strawman attack the “standards” of the people who point it out.
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I don't believe they are as obsessed with me as you are. Why not tell "them" your evidence that leads you to conclude that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs"? If that is the case, then you have proven Oswald is innocent, and you are a conspiracy theorist as it is the only possible implication to be drawn from YOUR conclusion.
That’s still BS, no matter how many times you repeat it. Find something new to mindlessly parrot.
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Again I'll ask the question for the last time. Who are these specific people?
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he refuses to accept the only possible implication of his OWN conclusion. That Oswald couldn't have been the 6th floor assassin since those stairs are the only way to have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom in the known timeframe.
I have never refused to accept any of this. It's just another one of your many misrepresentations of the actual facts. Why would I not accept this when the preponderance of the available evidence clearly suggests this is most likely what happened.
What I don't accept is your stupid premise that I must consider Oswald to be innocent because he couldn't have come down the stairs unnoticed within 75 seconds after the last shot.
It seems all this is going way over your head or you simply ignore the distinction to keep on misrepresenting what I have actually said.
If Oswald "didn't come down the stairs" from the 6th floor after the assassination as you have concluded, how could he be in the 2nd floor lunchroom for the encounter with Baker and still have been the assassin?
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If Oswald "didn't come down the stairs" from the 6th floor after the assassination as you have concluded, how could he be in the 2nd floor lunchroom for the encounter with Baker and still have been the assassin?
And there we have it; the conclusive proof that what I am saying is going way over your head.
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And there we have it; the conclusive proof that what I am saying is going way over your head.
Why not just answer the simple question? It is not a trick. Again, if you have concluded that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs" after the assassination, how could he still have been the assassin? Do you think there was another way that Oswald could have gotten from the 6th floor to the 2nd floor without being seen? If not, that rules him out as the assassin. So explain it to us. Avoid the temptation to deflect to personal commentary or other issues to avoid answering as you have done for weeks.
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Why not just answer the simple question? It is not a trick. Again, if you have concluded that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs" after the assassination, how could he still have been the assassin? Do you think there was another way that Oswald could have gotten from the 6th floor to the 2nd floor without being seen? If not, that rules him out as the assassin. So explain it to us. Avoid the temptation to deflect to personal commentary or other issues to avoid answering as you have done for weeks.
Why not just answer the simple question?
Says the guy who refuses to answer any questions ... :D
I've been answering your ignorant questions for weeks now, when at the same time you have refused or were unable to answer my questions.
Where did I say that Oswald could still have been the assassin if he didn't come down the stairs? You are still not getting any of this, aren't you?
Here's a clue;
Try to understand the stupidity of this remark;
Why not tell "them" your evidence that leads you to conclude that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs"? If that is the case, then you have proven Oswald is innocent,
and you might figure it out.
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Why not just answer the simple question?
Says the guy who refuses to answer any questions ... :D
I've been answering your ignorant questions for weeks now, when at the same time you have refused or were unable to answer my questions.
Where did I say that Oswald could still have been the assassin if he didn't come down the stairs? You are still not getting any of this, aren't you?
Here's a clue;
Try to understand the stupidity of this remark;
and you might figure it out.
What are you babbling about? This is real simple. I've tried to dumb this down to the point that a child could answer. How could Oswald be the assassin if he "didn't come down the stairs" after the assassination as you conclude? I didn't suggest that you have said that Oswald could still have been the assassin. That was my question. If Oswald "didn't come the stairs" then you must believe he is innocent of this crime and he was framed as part of a conspiracy. Is that your position or not?
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What are you babbling about? This is real simple. I've tried to dumb this down to the point that a child could answer. How could Oswald be the assassin if he "didn't come down the stairs" after the assassination as you conclude? I didn't suggest that you have said that Oswald could still have been the assassin. That was my question. If Oswald "didn't come the stairs" then you must believe he is innocent of this crime and he was framed as part of a conspiracy. Is that your position or not?
What are you babbling about?
Still clueless, I see.... You might want to tone down the arrogance when you display so much ignorance.
This is real simple.
Yes it is, so why are you not getting any of it?
I've tried to dumb this down to the point that a child could answer. How could Oswald be the assassin if he "didn't come down the stairs" after the assassination as you conclude? I didn't suggest that you have said that Oswald could still have been the assassin. That was my question.
And it's a pretty dumb question, which I have already answered a number of times in a way a child would understand it.
If Oswald "didn't come the stairs" then you must believe he is innocent of this crime and he was framed as part of a conspiracy.
More ignorance on display. Why must I believe that?
I have to say that it is great fun to watch you guess and making a complete fool of yourself time after time. It is very telling about just how limited you capacity to examine and understand obvious facts really is.
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If Oswald "didn't come the stairs" then you must believe he is innocent of this crime and he was framed as part of a conspiracy.
Why must he? Because you are Strawman “Smith”?
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Why not just answer the simple question? It is not a trick.
But it’s a diversion. Can you demonstrate with evidence that Oswald was on the sixth floor with a rifle and then came down the staircase to the second floor within 75 seconds without being seen or heard by the 12 people along the way, or can you not?
Why not just answer the simple question?
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So basically all the drugs JFK was taking were prescribed by doctors for his various ailments?
JFK may be not the most popular figure among the current generation of Left leaning Hollywood “woke” element because JFK has often been mentioned by the Right now as having been “national populist”.
In 1962-63 on the other hand, many on the conservative side were of the opinion that JFK had been far too conciliatory to the USSR after the back door negotiations with Kruschev to resolve the Cuban missive crisis.
Or it could be that Hollywood is actually largely owned /influenced by the Communist Chinese government and or globalist WEF who may see JFKs national populist sentiments as not so those of dissimilar of Trump.
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So basically all the drugs JFK was taking were prescribed by doctors for his various ailments?
Yes, just like Elvis and Michael Jackson. In fact, JFK's doctor Max Jacobson gave rise to the name "Dr. Feelgood." He was a crank who prescribed all manner of drugs for JFK. Just because a drug is prescribed for an influential person by a doctor doesn't make it any less reckless. It was kept a tight secret by JFK and his staffers both during his campaign and for decades after his death due to the negative implications.
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Yes, just like Elvis and Michael Jackson. In fact, JFK's doctor Max Jacobson gave rise to the name "Dr. Feelgood." He was a crank who prescribed all manner of drugs for JFK. Just because a drug is prescribed for an influential person by a doctor doesn't make it any less reckless. It was kept a tight secret by JFK and his staffers both during his campaign and for decades after his death due to the negative implications.
Strawman "no credibility" Smith is still running as fast as he can......
Don't take anything this guy says at face value!
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But it’s a diversion. Can you demonstrate with evidence that Oswald was on the sixth floor with a rifle and then came down the staircase to the second floor within 75 seconds without being seen or heard by the 12 people along the way, or can you not?
Why not just answer the simple question?
Run, “Richard”, run!
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Strawman "no credibility" Smith is still running as fast as he can......
Don't take anything this guy says at face value!
Can you translate this into an actual coherent point? Are you saying that JFK did not have a doctor named Max Jacobson (aka Dr. Feelgood) who prescribed numerous questionable medications for him while president? No one has to take this at "face value." Anyone can do a simple Google search to confirm. Maybe try that before embarrassing yourself yet again. Martin is humiliated because he was exposed as a CTer by claiming Oswald "didn't come down the stairs." So there is now endless personal commentary directed at me. It's very humorous. Like a petulant child.
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My opinion of JFK has nothing do with why I believe Oswald was the assassin. It's the evidence that confirms that. Just as the evidence confirms there was a conspiracy to kill President Lincoln. If I were influenced by anti-liberal bias, then I would be onboard with conspiracy nuts who think LBJ was behind the assassination. LBJ was the most liberal president in modern history. LBJ, however, had absolutely nothing to do with the assassination.
Yes, Richard, it really truly does. A perfect real world example is the Dahmer case. He was white but living in a "Section 8" part of town with black and brown people. The Milwaukee police totally ignored their complaints about foul odors and strange goings on. Even when one of his victims was found outside with a hole drilled in his head, they STILL didn't take proactive action against him. They didn't care about the browns and blacks there and because Dahmer was white, they believed and listened to him far more than they should. Put another way, if this had happened in the ritzy part of town with white landowners, they'd have had 10 police cars there within minutes.
It takes a lot of self-analysis and reflection, as well as critical thinking skills to at least question things about a case like this. I grew up in a household with a Kennedy statue on the shelf. My Mother met Kennedy in '60 when he was running for president. Growing up, I heard about how "wonderful" he was. Since, then, I've grown up to see things more clearly than as a kid. But from an investigative standpoint, when you step back and just look at what the evidence shows, there are way too many questionable bits in the narrative.
The bullet through the back with no exit and being lower than the neck - alone - is really one of the big benchmarks of this questionable evidence. And they knew that too, which is why the photo of the reenactment is so silently revealing.
So, yes, you don't like the Kennedys for whatever reason but when it's brought up, you'll continue to get defensive, switch hats and say, "Oh, no no. It's all the evidence," which is such a lazy thing to fall back on because that's what the government wants you to believe. Remember Richard - the "government" is made up of human beings, too, with all of their flaws and faults and biases.
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Can you translate this into an actual coherent point? Are you saying that JFK did not have a doctor named Max Jacobson (aka Dr. Feelgood) who prescribed numerous questionable medications for him while president? No one has to take this at "face value." Anyone can do a simple Google search to confirm. Maybe try that before embarrassing yourself yet again. Martin is humiliated because he was exposed as a CTer by claiming Oswald "didn't come down the stairs." So there is now endless personal commentary directed at me. It's very humorous. Like a petulant child.
Can you translate this into an actual coherent point?
The point is a simple one; you're a coward who makes all sorts of bogus claims without backing them up with evidence.
You've lost all credibility and don't even seem to understand that you running away from providing evidence for your claims is the best evidence that you are fully aware that the case against Oswald is beyond weak.
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Martin is humiliated because he was exposed as a CTer by claiming Oswald "didn't come down the stairs."
BS: That’s not a conspiracy theory, Strawman “Smith”.
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Can you translate this into an actual coherent point?
The point is a simple one; you're a coward who makes all sorts of bogus claims without backing them up with evidence.
You've lost all credibility and don't even seem to understand that you running away from providing evidence for your claims is the best evidence that you are fully aware that the case against Oswald is beyond weak.
We were discussing JFK's drug use and his doctor here. It is a documented historical fact that Max Jacobson (aka "Dr. Feelgood") prescribed numerous questionable drugs for JFK while he was president. Anyone can do a one second Google search to confirm. There is no doubt on this fact. For some bizarre reason you appear to have taken issue with that documented fact, but instead of explaining why you have hijacked another thread to engage in personal commentary about me. It's very amusing. You were embarrassed and humiliated about your claim that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs." It blew your lazy cover of having no position on Oswald's guilt and forever exposed you as a CTer. Get over it instead of acting like a child.
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We were discussing JFK's drug use and his doctor here. It is a documented historical fact that Max Jacobson (aka "Dr. Feelgood") prescribed numerous questionable drugs for JFK while he was president. Anyone can do a one second Google search to confirm. There is no doubt on this fact. For some bizarre reason you appear to have taken issue with that documented fact, but instead of explaining why you have hijacked another thread to engage in personal commentary about me. It's very amusing. You were embarrassed and humiliated about your claim that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs." It blew your lazy cover of having no position on Oswald's guilt and forever exposed you as a CTer. Get over it instead of acting like a child.
We were discussing JFK's drug use and his doctor here.
It doesn't matter what you are discussing. Nothing you say can be taken at face value. You have no credibility whatsoever!
You were embarrassed and humiliated about your claim that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs."
Just keep telling yourself that. Who knows, perhaps one day you will actually believe it yourself.
Why not try to deal with a basic fact for once? All the available evidence points to Oswald not coming down the stairs and you - despite all your pathetic claims - can not prove that he did. And that's a fact!
It blew your lazy cover of having no position on Oswald's guilt and forever exposed you as a CTer.
Keep dreaming. I still have no position about Oswald's guilt or innocence. Unlike you, I am not so superficial as to think that Oswald not being on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and not coming down the stairs automatically makes him innocent.
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We were discussing JFK's drug use and his doctor here.
It doesn't matter what you are discussing. Nothing you say can be taken at face value. You have no credibility whatsoever!
You were embarrassed and humiliated about your claim that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs."
Just keep telling yourself that. Who knows, perhaps one day you will actually believe it yourself.
Why not try to deal with a basic fact for once? All the available evidence points to Oswald not coming down the stairs and you - despite all your pathetic claims - can not prove that he did. And that's a fact!
It blew your lazy cover of having no position on Oswald's guilt and forever exposed you as a CTer.
Keep dreaming. I still have no position about Oswald's guilt or innocence. Unlike you, I am not so superficial as to think that Oswald not being on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and not coming down the stairs automatically makes him innocent.
Perhaps we can't prove that Lee Oswald did not travel down the stairs just seconds after JFK was murdered ....We have good solid information (Captain Fritz notes) the Lee was in the first floor lunchroom just three minutes before JFK was murdered .... And a DPD police officer talked to the calm and startled, Lee Oswald, who was drinking a Coke in the second floor lunchroom about a minute and a half after the first shot was fired. Not a jury in the world would have convicted Lee if they had had this information.
Keep diggin Mr "Smith" ...... Like most simple fools you don't have the brains to know when you should stop diggin...
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We were discussing JFK's drug use and his doctor here.
It doesn't matter what you are discussing. Nothing you say can be taken at face value. You have no credibility whatsoever!
You are really losing it. You don't have to take it at "face value." As I noted, it takes only a one second Google search to confirm that Max Jacobson was a doctor who prescribed various questionable drugs for JFK while he was president. That is a documented fact easily verified by anyone including yourself. Try it before embarrassing yourself further with these schoolgirl tantrums. I realize you were embarrassed to be exposed as a CTer by concluding that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs" but that is your position whether you like it or not. Try to focus on the topic for once and not me.
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You are really losing it. You don't have to take it at "face value." As I noted, it takes only a one second Google search to confirm that Max Jacobson was a doctor who prescribed various questionable drugs for JFK while he was president. That is a documented fact easily verified by anyone including yourself. Try it before embarrassing yourself further with these schoolgirl tantrums. I realize you were embarrassed to be exposed as a CTer by concluding that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs" but that is your position whether you like it or not. Try to focus on the topic for once and not me.
Try to focus on the topic for once and not me.
Yeah sure, you would like that, wouldn't you?
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They are not “questionable drugs” just because “Richard” decrees them to be.
Still waiting for “Richard” to explain how Oswald not coming down the stairs in 75 seconds is a “conspiracy theory”, instead of him just bleating it over and over again.