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Title: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Alan Ford on September 18, 2022, 10:23:09 PM
Friends, has anyone here seen this document before?

(https://i.postimg.cc/xCpc8gp7/Polygraph.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hc5pP0g4)

It has been posted by Mr. Jean Paul Ceulemans on another forum, and I find it intriguing. The source is here: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth190225/m1/22/

The notes unquestionably relate to Mr. Oswald, and contain apparent reference to a polygraph (misspelled 'polograph'------the writer is a poor speller: cf 'arrainment' above!), with topics mentioned
-'Russia'
-'In Mexico'
-'Post Office Box'

(Hard to see how these would be keywords in Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier's polygraph test.........)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dVQ32bMX/Polygraph-marked.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0b39xHyd)

Just above this, we have 'Where you when [illegible----to me at any rate! A.F.]"----------> Can anyone make out this last word?

We have always been told Mr. Oswald refused to take a polygraph test..............
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Walt Cakebread on September 18, 2022, 10:35:33 PM
Friends, has anyone here seen this document before?

(https://i.postimg.cc/xCpc8gp7/Polygraph.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hc5pP0g4)

It has been posted by Mr. Jean Paul Ceulemans on another forum, and I find it intriguing. The source is here: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth190225/m1/22/

The notes unquestionably relate to Mr. Oswald, and contain apparent reference to a polygraph (misspelled 'polograph'------the writer is a poor speller: cf 'arrainment' above!), with topics mentioned
-'Russia'
-'In Mexico'
-'Post Office Box'

(Hard to see how these would be keywords in Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier's polygraph test.........)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dVQ32bMX/Polygraph-marked.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0b39xHyd)

Just above this, we have 'Where you when [illegible----to me at any rate! A.F.]"----------> Can anyone make out this last word?

We have always been told Mr. Oswald refused to take a polygraph test..............

Just above this, we have 'Where you when [illegible----

Where you when notified?
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Alan Ford on September 18, 2022, 10:37:45 PM
Just above this, we have 'Where you when [illegible----

Where you when notified?

Brilliantly spotted, Mr. Cakebread----------thank you!  Thumb1:
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Alan Ford on September 18, 2022, 10:53:54 PM
'Lt. [Karl P.] Knight'----------Identification Bureau

= the man who took Mr. Oswald from his cell ~12:35 a.m. (11/23) and brought him him down to fourth floor for fingerprinting and mug shots
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Mike Orr on September 22, 2022, 01:00:33 AM
Where you when  " notified " ?  Could that last word be " notified " ?
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Dan O'meara on September 22, 2022, 01:24:39 AM
Where you when  " notified " ?  Could that last word be " notified " ?

What a genuinely awesome post.
It's not like there's been pages and pages containing dozens of posts.
Post #1 What does this word say?
Post #2 "Notified"
Post #3 Thanks for that

And then in swoops Mike to save the day,
Couldn't you be even arsed reading the handful of words contained in this thread?

What I find interesting is that at the top of the page of the document it appears to say:

Search warrant issued on 23rd used
on 22 ---- N. Beckley


What about the bottom of the page, after the stuff about Oswald has been underlined:

Carroll [something] morning
Chief [something]

Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Alan Ford on September 22, 2022, 12:39:42 PM
What I find interesting is that at the top of the page of the document it appears to say:

Search warrant issued on 23rd used
on 22 ---- N. Beckley

Yes (and yikes......)

Quote
What about the bottom of the page, after the stuff about Oswald has been underlined:

Carroll [something] morning

Carroll Thurs morning

Would this refer to 11/21 or 11/28??
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: James Hackerott on September 22, 2022, 01:14:12 PM
What a genuinely awesome post.
It's not like there's been pages and pages containing dozens of posts.
Post #1 What does this word say?
Post #2 "Notified"
Post #3 Thanks for that

And then in swoops Mike to save the day,
Couldn't you be even arsed reading the handful of words contained in this thread?

What I find interesting is that at the top of the page of the document it appears to say:

Search warrant issued on 23rd used
on 22 ---- N. Beckley


What about the bottom of the page, after the stuff about Oswald has been underlined:

Carroll [something] morning
Chief [something]


Chief Steve?
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Walt Cakebread on September 22, 2022, 02:15:56 PM
Chief Steve?

Does it say "chain of evidence on 4 shells" ?

What  shells?     the shells from the site of the Tippit execution ?
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Walt Cakebread on September 22, 2022, 02:20:25 PM
Chief Steve?

Mr Hackerott ..... Can you do anything to clear up the Powell photo that is posted on the thread "Are these Photos legit?"
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: James Hackerott on September 22, 2022, 02:51:00 PM
Mr Hackerott ..... Can you do anything to clear up the Powell photo that is posted on the thread "Are these Photos legit?"
Thanks for asking Walt, I'll take a look but don't expect to do too much with it.
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Walt Cakebread on September 22, 2022, 04:06:17 PM
Friends, has anyone here seen this document before?

(https://i.postimg.cc/xCpc8gp7/Polygraph.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hc5pP0g4)

It has been posted by Mr. Jean Paul Ceulemans on another forum, and I find it intriguing. The source is here: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth190225/m1/22/

The notes unquestionably relate to Mr. Oswald, and contain apparent reference to a polygraph (misspelled 'polograph'------the writer is a poor speller: cf 'arrainment' above!), with topics mentioned
-'Russia'
-'In Mexico'
-'Post Office Box'

(Hard to see how these would be keywords in Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier's polygraph test.........)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dVQ32bMX/Polygraph-marked.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0b39xHyd)

Just above this, we have 'Where you when [illegible----to me at any rate! A.F.]"----------> Can anyone make out this last word?

We have always been told Mr. Oswald refused to take a polygraph test..............

The document seems to confirm the manipulation of evidence by the authorities....

The first entry says " Don't want issued on 23rd  was used on 22nd N. Beckley" 

In other words they didn't have a search warrant when they searched Lee's room at 1026 N. Beckley.....and on Saturday 11/23/ 63 he wanted a search warrant that was dated 11/22/63 ......

Do I have that right?
Title: Re: Oswald Polygraph?
Post by: Alan Ford on September 22, 2022, 11:03:29 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCpc8gp7/Polygraph.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hc5pP0g4)

I think 'Lt. Knight to check out' refers not to the polygraph stuff above but to the items listed below (i.e. these being the things Lt. Knight is to check out):

Chain of Evidence on 4 shells
Carroll Thurs morning
Chief Steve [?]