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Off Topic => News - Off Topic - Weird & Wacky => Topic started by: Richard Smith on August 30, 2022, 02:30:12 PM
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The chickens are finally coming home to roost. It has taken a couple of years but now it is widely acknowledged that the laptop is real. Even by the leftist media that dismissed the story in 2020 as Russian disinformation. There was never any real doubt about it being genuine. The absurd conspiracy fantasy that the Russians somehow creating the laptop, leaving it at a random computer store in Delaware using a Hunter double, and then hoping the proprietor would bring it to the attention of the authorities was laughable. Zuckerberg confirmed this week that the FBI was actively involved in covering up the damaging information by encouraging Facebook to suppress the story. An astounding interference with free speech and collusion to influence the outcome of an election. An FBI agent involved in this cover up has resigned in disgrace. The first of many that will be held accountable once the republicans take over after the midterms. Hopefully all the fake "national security" experts who signed the fake letter claiming that the laptop was Russian disinformation (based on no actual information whatsoever) will be held accountable by removing their security clearances. Chris Wallace should also be fired. During the presidential debate he actually refused to allow Trump to raise the laptop issue by claiming it was disinformation. Working at the Conspiracy News Network (CNN) is no doubt a step down but he lost all credibility. No one watched his silly streaming show.
Expect Hunter to plead guilty to a minor slap on the wrist crime after the midterms in exchange for a deal that exonerates him of the numerous felonies that he committed with the "Big Guy" with Biden, Inc. to avoid the republicans holding him accountable. No predawn raid on his Malibu home by the FBI land, air, and sea tactical team.
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Things are unravelling fast at the FBI. Dozens of agents are coming forward as whistleblowers on the FBI's partisan political efforts. So much so that Garland had to caution them not to speak with member of Congress. So much for the sanctity of whistleblowers that the leftist media went on and on about when they were desperately trying to impeach Trump. They apparently don't care about Garland's potentially illegal effort to intimidate whistleblowers when it doesn't suit their ideology. Once the Republicans sweep the midterm elections, they will start cleaning house. Look for a lot of resignations come November. Also a plea deal for Hunter to get Biden, Inc. off the hook before an honest investigation convicts him of numerous felonies.
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All reports are that Wray will be resigning as the director of the FBI in the near future. Likely just after the midterm elections to avoid responsibility for the political actions of his agency.
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Hunter should be stocking up on reading material for his long prison sentence. Perhaps "How to Succeed at Business without Really Trying." I heard it helps if your dad is the "big guy."
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Hunter claims that he doesn't know if the laptop belongs to him. I know he smoked a lot of crack but he dropped it off at the computer store and signed for it. He clearly knows that it is his. What a sleazy scumbag. The FBI should be ashamed to have been complicit in his crimes for political purposes. Biden, Inc. will eventually get a slap on the wrist before the republicans take over after the midterms to avoid a real investigation. The whole things stinks of establishment corruption but Old Joe is lecturing law abiding Americans on the "soul of America."
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Hunter claims that he doesn't know if the laptop belongs to him. I know he smoked a lot of crack...
Did it not have pictures on it of him doing same? :D
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Did it not have pictures on it of him doing same? :D
Among many other things. What a great parent Old Joe must have been. Hunter is a crackhead who married his dead brother's wife, and his daughter is a self-described nymphomaniac. The FBI has pictures and photos of Hunter smoking crack, taking prostitutes across state lines, and engaging in all manner of illegal tax and influence peddling felonies. They have sat on this information for years while raiding the homes of elderly citizens for non-violent process crimes. Peter Navarro was put in leg irons like a 19th Century pirate at the airport. An elderly guy who no criminal history. But there is equal justice according to Garland. Just ask him or CNN. No predawn raid of Hunter's Malibu home being paid for by some unknown person. Nothing to see there. Plenty of people have Malibu beach homes paid for by some stranger who expects nothing in return. Just ask Garland of CNN.
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The fix is in for the Hunter situation. DOJ will cut a deal just after the election. They will give him a slap on the wrist for some minor process violation and grant him immunity from the numerous felonies he committed with the "Big Guy" for Biden, Inc. This will be an attempt to preempt the Republicans from opening a legitimate investigation when they take over after the election. A corrupt system. And no one is concerned about the son of the President having his Malibu house paid for by some unknown individual? Just a normal thing for a stranger to pay for his home. I'm sure this person expects nothing in return. No corruption or influence peddling there. Just like "Party on" Paul Pelosi making those well-timed stock trades that have resulting in himself and Queen Nancy making tens of millions. What good luck!
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As though the DOJ and FBI didn't have enough problems with the illegal raid on Trump, it turns out the agent in charge of the covering up the Biden laptop was an avowed Trump hater on social media. What a shock. No wonder he was forced to resign in disgrace, but only after the story became public.
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Lost in the focus on the numerous felonies committed by Hunter is that the Show Me the Money Joe Biden is in this up to his neck. The "big guy" was a knowing participant in the influence peddling making millions through Biden, Inc. along with his corrupt brother. The evidence is stone cold and has been available to the FBI for years. No predawn raid on anyone, though. Nothing to see with the Biden's making millions from foreign governments and some unknown person paying even until today for Hunter's Malibu home.
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Hunter woke up this morning and checked if he was in jail yet. He still can't believe he is living in a Malibu home that someone else is paying for. It must be a dream.
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Hunter can't decide if he looks better in orange or traditional black and white convict stripes. Maybe Uncle James will have an opinion when they both to the slammer.
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Hunter is glad he doesn't live in a Dem controlled city with the out-of-control crime spree. Thankfully someone has paid for his house in Malibu. He will be moving to an even bigger house soon paid for by the taxpayers.
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The House Dems rejected a proposal to open an investigation into Hunter. What a surprise! It's all Trump all day. No solution to inflation, crime, war, or illegal aliens/drugs pouring across the border. No one is concerned that the CDC dropped the ball and was unprepared for the pandemic leaving one million dead in the US. The only issue is Trump. Trump, Trump, and more Trump. All this effort and they still haven't found anything on him. In contrast, Hunter confessed to numerous felonies including influence peddling from foreign governments with a cut to the "big guy." Imagine if any of the effort devoted to Trump had been spent on Biden, Inc.? But the time is coming. The midterms are almost here. Stripes have a thinning effect. So think positive Hunter.
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Will Old Joe pardon Hunter when he goes to the slammer? My guess is that the corrupt DOJ cuts a deal to give Hunter a slap on the wrist after the election to avoid the hearings that will come when the Repubs take over. Uncle James is also part of Biden, Inc. They can be bunk mates in the big house. Avenatti can give them legal advice from the next cell.
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Hunter must pinch himself every morning when he wakes up in a Malibu home being paid for by some unknown person. Nothing to see there. Just another day in paradise (i.e. Biden, Inc.).
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If Hunter still had his laptop, he could do a Google search to see when he is going to jail.
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They are preparing a room for Hunter in the big house. Will the FBI stage a predawn air, sea, and ground assault on his Malibu home to take him into custody like they have done to nonviolent elderly people like Roger Stone? LOL.
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This was once deemed "disinformation" and the product of Russian interference. Any mention was subject to a ban on social media highlighting the incredible bias and attempts by social media to influence the 2020 election. Chris Wallace actually shutdown President Trump when he tried to raise this issue during the debate. Ironically, the leftist media did exactly what they were suggesting the Russians were doing during the election.
Better later than never, though: "CBS joins New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN in verifying laptop after media dismissed New York Post's reporting."
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This was once deemed "disinformation" and the product of Russian interference. Any mention was subject to a ban on social media highlighting the incredible bias and attempts by social media to influence the 2020 election. Chris Wallace actually shutdown President Trump when he tried to raise this issue during the debate. Ironically, the leftist media did exactly what they were suggesting the Russians were doing during the election.
Better later than never, though: "CBS joins New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN in verifying laptop after media dismissed New York Post's reporting."
How could the media, or anyone, "verify" the laptop.
Did the laptop go directly from Hunter Biden to a reputable agency like the Washington Post or the FBI? No. It went from Hunter Biden, to someone hostile to him, a laptop repairman, before it, or a copy of the data went on to the Washington post.
Did the people hostile to Hunter Biden have access to experts who could fake data very well? Yes, by simply taking the laptop to any Russian embassy and asking them to examine it. Such a notion would be obvious, because Trump, in a 2016 Presidential debate, called upon the Russians to find/manufacture email evidence against Hillary Clinton.
Quote from Wikipedia on the Hunter Biden laptop controversy:
On October 19, 2020, a group of 51 former senior intelligence officials, who had served in the Trump administration and those of the three previous presidents, released an open letter stating that the release of the alleged emails "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation," adding:
We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement – just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case.
This is a classic case of a piece of 'evidence' having major "Chain of Custody" issues. The CTers cite this a lot. But never with an example of a piece of evidence passing through the hands of a non police or FBI official, with a clear motive to fake the evidence. Merely the suggestion that such and such an officer may have been motivated against Oswald. Never a clear case like that of the laptop repairman being hostile to the Biden's.
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How could the media, or anyone, "verify" the laptop.
Did the laptop go directly from Hunter Biden to a reputable agency like the Washington Post or the FBI? No. It went from Hunter Biden, to someone hostile to him, a laptop repairman, before it, or a copy of the data went on to the Washington post.
Did the people hostile to Hunter Biden have access to experts who could fake data very well? Yes, by simply taking the laptop to any Russian embassy and asking them to examine it. Such a notion would be obvious, because Trump, in a 2016 Presidential debate, called upon the Russians to find/manufacture email evidence against Hillary Clinton.
Quote from Wikipedia on the Hunter Biden laptop controversy:
On October 19, 2020, a group of 51 former senior intelligence officials, who had served in the Trump administration and those of the three previous presidents, released an open letter stating that the release of the alleged emails "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation," adding:
This is a classic case of a piece of 'evidence' having major "Chain of Custody" issues. The CTers cite this a lot. But never with an example of a piece of evidence passing through the hands of a non police or FBI official, with a clear motive to fake the evidence. Merely the suggestion that such and such an officer may have been motivated against Oswald. Never a clear case like that of the laptop repairman being hostile to the Biden's.
They somehow "verified" it was disinformation before the election. Anyone who suggested otherwise was banned from social media as a conspiracy theorist. It's a very simple matter to verify it. The FBI has had it for a couple of years. You don't think they have that capability? You don't think Hunter knows? It's his laptop. Maybe ask him under oath at the risk of perjury. You believe the leftist media is framing Biden suddenly? The "intelligence" officers were all political hacks that had no more information about the laptop than the average person. It was an attempt to cover up the damage to get Trump out of office at all costs. It's what the radicals call "collusion" and an "insurrection" to undermine democracy. You should be outraged regardless of political bias.
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They somehow "verified" it was disinformation before the election. Anyone who suggested otherwise was banned from social media as a conspiracy theorist. It's a very simple matter to verify it. The FBI has had it for a couple of years. You don't think they have that capability? You don't think Hunter knows? It's his laptop. Maybe ask him under oath at the risk of perjury. You believe the leftist media is framing Biden suddenly? The "intelligence" officers were all political hacks that had no more information about the laptop than the average person. It was an attempt to cover up the damage to get Trump out of office at all costs. It's what the radicals call "collusion" and an "insurrection" to undermine democracy. You should be outraged regardless of political bias.
The FBI has had the laptop for a couple of years.
Did someone else other than Hunter Biden have the laptop before the FBI? Yes.
Was that person hostile to the Biden's? Yes.
Did that hostile person have access to the sort of expertise to plant convincing evidence against Hunter Biden? Yes.
Who could these experts be? The Russians.
Which of these questions have I given a false answer to?
Whether this laptop ever belong to Hunter Biden is immaterial. It would have to pass directly from Hunter Biden to the FBI to be considered valid evidence. Which it did not.
The people who want to take down the reputation of the Biden's have to have some evidence other than this laptop. And if they do, why do the continue to focus on this laptop which is worthless in proving anything.
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The FBI has had the laptop for a couple of years.
Did someone else other than Hunter Biden have the laptop before the FBI? Yes.
Was that person hostile to the Biden's? Yes.
Did that hostile person have access to the sort of expertise to plant convincing evidence against Hunter Biden? Yes.
Who could these experts be? The Russians.
Which of these questions have I given a false answer to?
Whether this laptop ever belong to Hunter Biden is immaterial. It would have to pass directly from Hunter Biden to the FBI to be considered valid evidence. Which it did not.
The people who want to take down the reputation of the Biden's have to have some evidence other than this laptop. And if they do, why do the continue to focus on this laptop which is worthless in proving anything.
Again, even the radical leftist media sources have confirmed that this was Hunter's laptop. To my knowledge, no one including even Hunter Biden himself denies this was his laptop and that the contents are genuine. The emails can be checked with the recipients and servers. This is not rocket science.
"CBS joins New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN in verifying laptop after media dismissed New York Post's reporting."
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Again, even the radical leftist media sources have confirmed that this was Hunter's laptop. To my knowledge, no one including even Hunter Biden himself denies this was his laptop and that the contents are genuine. The emails can be checked with the recipients and servers. This is not rocket science.
"CBS joins New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN in verifying laptop after media dismissed New York Post's reporting."
Yes. It was his laptop. But the points you keep dodging are:
1. Did someone else modify the contents of his laptop?
2. If not, how could we possibly know this?
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Yes. It was his laptop. But the points you keep dodging are:
1. Did someone else modify the contents of his laptop?
2. If not, how could we possibly know this?
No one modified the contents. Do you think the videos of Hunter with the prostitutes and smoking crack are a Hunter "double"? Do you think the emails that he sent and received can't be tracked or checked against the recipients and servers? Do you think it is not possible for the FBI and US intelligence agencies to verify the contents of a laptop or determine if they have been fabricated? Do you think the leftists who have covered this story up prior to the election would have hesitated for one second to release any evidence indicating that the contents of this laptop were faked by someone? The leftist media like the NY Times have verified the contents of the laptop. Numerous other leftist media sources have done the same. Not a single one has suggested there is an iota of evidence to indicate that anyone altered the contents of the laptop. It is really far out, tin foil hat nonsense at this point to still be peddling that baseless conspiracy theory.
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No one modified the contents. Do you think the videos of Hunter with the prostitutes and smoking crack are a Hunter "double"? Do you think the emails that he sent and received can't be tracked or checked against the recipients and servers? Do you think it is not possible for the FBI and US intelligence agencies to verify the contents of a laptop or determine if they have been fabricated? Do you think the leftists who have covered this story up prior to the election would have hesitated for one second to release any evidence indicating that the contents of this laptop were faked by someone? The leftist media like the NY Times have verified the contents of the laptop. Numerous other leftist media sources have done the same. Not a single one has suggested there is an iota of evidence to indicate that anyone altered the contents of the laptop. It is really far out, tin foil hat nonsense at this point to still be peddling that baseless conspiracy theory.
Here is what a Wikipedia article had to say:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy#Aftermath_and_veracity_concerns
Forensic analysis
In March 2022, The Washington Post published the findings of two forensic information analysts it had retained to examine 217 gigabytes of data provided to the paper on a hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey, who represented that its contents came from the laptop. One of the analysts characterized the data as a "disaster" from a forensics standpoint. The analysts found that people other than Hunter Biden had repeatedly accessed and copied data for nearly three years; they also found evidence that people other than Biden had accessed and written files to the drive, both before and after the New York Post story.[6] In September 2020, someone created six new folders on the drive, including with the names "Biden Burisma," "Big Guy File," "Salacious Pics Package" and "Hunter. Burisma Documents." One of the analysts found evidence someone may have accessed the drive contents from a West Coast location days after The New York Post published their stories about the laptop.[6]
Using cryptographic signatures to analyze the roughly 129,000 emails on the drive, one analysis was able to verify that 1,828 of the emails came from the indicated email accounts of origin, suggesting they were authentic and had not been tampered with; the other analysis was able to verify nearly 22,000 emails using similar methods, after overcoming technical issues the first analysis could not resolve. The analysts said emails from Burisma, where Pozharskyi was an advisor, were likely authentic, but cautioned that if Burisma had been hacked, it would be possible for hackers to use stolen cryptographic signatures to forge emails that would pass as authentic. The New York Times reported in January 2020 that Russian military intelligence had hacked Burisma beginning in November 2019; a co-founder of the firm that discovered the hacking said Russians were stealing email credentials. Both analysts acknowledged that cryptographic signatures are not a perfect way to authenticate emails, as some email services do not implement the technology as rigorously as others. About 16,000 of the 22,000 emails carrying cryptographic signatures came via Google, which rigorously implements the technology. The analysts noted that cryptographic signatures can only verify that an email originated from a certain email account, but not who controlled that account; there are other means for hackers to commandeer email accounts of others. According to the Washington Post, "Some other emails on the drive that have been the foundation for previous news reports could not be verified because the messages lacked verifiable cryptographic signatures."[6]
Among the emails that The Washington Post was able to authenticate was the Pozharskyi email that formed the basis of the New York Post's original article. An email referencing "10 held by H for the big guy?," an apparent reference to a rejected proposal to give Joe Biden a 10% share of a Chinese deal his son was negotiating, was not authenticated, though a recipient of the email publicly vouched for its authenticity.[6]
One of the analysts found that timestamps on documents and in operating system indexes matched, though he noted hackers could forge timestamps in undetectable ways. The analysts also noted that the drive had been handled in such a way that logs and other files used by forensic analysts to examine system activity had been repeatedly deleted. Neither analyst found evidence emails or other files had been manipulated by hackers, nor could they rule out that possibility.[6][56]
An analysis by Distributed Denial of Secrets of 128,755 emails allegedly copied from the laptop and circulated by allies and former staff of President Donald Trump showed "signs of tampering" including 145 modification dates and emails created more than a year after Hunter Biden had the laptop.[57][58] Matt Tait, a cybersecurity expert and former information security specialist for the U.K.'s Government Communications Headquarters, reviewed the analysis and said "it is clear the cache isn't in its original form."[59]
In November 2022, CBS News published the results of a forensic analysis they commissioned of a copy of the laptop data Mac Isaac initially handed to federal investigators in 2019. The analysis, conducted by Computer Forensics Services, found "no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with", and found no new files created on the laptop after April 2019, when Mac Isaac received the laptop. The chief technology officer of Computer Forensics Services added: "I have no doubt in my mind that this data was created by Hunter Biden, and that it came from a computer under Mr. Biden's control".[60]
Different experts have different opinions on whether the laptop was modified or not after Hunter turned it into the repair shop. Using common sense, I don't think it was Hunter Biden who created files in folders labeled "Biden Burisma," "Big Guy File," "Salacious Pics Package" and "Hunter. Burisma Documents". Clearly, someone other than Hunter Biden modified the contents of that laptop. And computer experts could modify the laptop and other servers to make it appear it contained valid emails. I doubt this would be beyond Russian capabilities.
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Despite federal laws that protect the confidentiality of tax returns, Dems spent years attempting to obtain President Trump's taxes. They never alleged that he had committed any type of tax crime and, of course, Trump had submitted his tax returns to the IRS for their review. The IRS never took or suggested there was any tax crime committed by Trump. But the Dems were able to use the legal system (with liberal judges) to illegally obtain the returns. And now, still in the absence of any claim of a tax crime, have released information from his tax returns to the public in what is clearly a politically driven attempt to embarrass Trump. A gross abuse of power. And what do we learn? That in one recent year Trump - using the lawful exemptions enacted by Congress - lawfully paid no income tax. As do few in his income bracket due to the loopholes provided by Congress for the wealthy.
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Despite federal laws that protect the confidentiality of tax returns, Dems spent years attempting to obtain President Trump's taxes. They never alleged that he had committed any type of tax crime and, of course, Trump had submitted his tax returns to the IRS for their review. The IRS never took or suggested there was any tax crime committed by Trump. But the Dems were able to use the legal system (with liberal judges) to illegally obtain the returns. And now, still in the absence of any claim of a tax crime, have released information from his tax returns to the public in what is clearly a politically driven attempt to embarrass Trump. A gross abuse of power. And what do we learn? That in one recent year Trump - using the lawful exemptions enacted by Congress - lawfully paid no income tax. As do few in his income bracket due to the loopholes provided by Congress for the wealthy.
Trump (since 2016): I will gladly release my tax returns but I can't as they are under audit. As soon as the audit is over I will make them public (obviously I am paraphrasing)
Jan 6th Committee (2022): The record shows there never was an audit....
If anybody embarrasses Trump, it's Trump himself.
But the Dems were able to use the legal system (with liberal judges) to illegally obtain the returns.
Really? You can obtain returns illegally by using the legal system?
Do you ever think before you write something as stupid as that?
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But the Dems were able to use the legal system (with liberal judges) to illegally obtain the returns.
Really? You can obtain returns illegally by using the legal system?
Do you ever think before you write something as stupid as that?
If I can answer for Richard, the answer is no.
Or better yet, if a judge orders tax returns to be obtain, it is still illegal, if Richard believes it should be illegal. No matter what that judge or any judge says.
Martin, I hope this clears it up for you. It certainly doesn't for me.
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At best, one can give the opinion that the judge was in error. But not that the judge acted illegally. Even if a higher court overrules him, the judge did not do anything illegal. He would have just made an error in his legal judgment.
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Another point I would like to make, the tax returns were collected by authorized people, at the order of a judge.
It's not like laptop is analyzed by someone who is not a member of law enforcement, who was not authorized to act by some judge, whether rightly or in error, but was possessed by a shop owner who could have altered the laptop. Or asked the Russians to alter it for him. That should be no problem for a court trial, it should still be considered sterling evidence.
And yet using the tax returns is completely illegal. While using this laptop as evidence is totally above board.
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Trump (since 2016): I will gladly release my tax returns but I can't as they are under audit. As soon as the audit is over I will make them public (obviously I am paraphrasing)
Jan 6th Committee (2022): The record shows there never was an audit....
If anybody embarrasses Trump, it's Trump himself.
But the Dems were able to use the legal system (with liberal judges) to illegally obtain the returns.
Really? You can obtain returns illegally by using the legal system?
Do you ever think before you write something as stupid as that?
LOL. Here in America (the country that pays for the defense of "Europe") there is a federal law that precludes the disclosure of tax returns for privacy reasons. That is one of the reasons, for example, that the tax returns of even a double murderer named Lee Harvey Oswald have never been made public despite being the assassin of the US President. But in the case of the actual President, the tax returns were obtained via a liberal judge and disclosed to the public for political reasons. And what do we learn? Trump was in compliance with the tax laws enacted by our corrupt Congress which often permit the wealthiest to pay no taxes. Does anyone in the US voluntarily pay more taxes than they owe under our corrupt tax code? Absolutely not. Not Trump or anyone else. This is the net result of years of litigation.
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LOL. Here in America (the country that pays for the defense of "Europe") there is a federal law that precludes the disclosure of tax returns for privacy reasons. That is one of the reasons, for example, that the tax returns of even a double murderer named Lee Harvey Oswald have never been made public despite being the assassin of the US President. But in the case of the actual President, the tax returns were obtained via a liberal judge and disclosed to the public for political reasons. And what do we learn? Trump was in compliance with the tax laws enacted by our corrupt Congress which often permit the wealthiest to pay no taxes. Does anyone in the US voluntarily pay more taxes than they owe under our corrupt tax code? Absolutely not. Not Trump or anyone else. This is the net result of years of litigation.
What happened to you? Did somebody drop you on your head when you were a kid?
What will it take for a fanatic like you to ever understand that you are not part of the solution? You're not even part of the problem, you (and others like you) are the problem!
If there is a difference between people like you and extreme fanatics like the Taliban, I don't see it.
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Hunter needs a new lawyer since his current one just inadvertantely confirmed (not that there was any doubt) that the contents of the laptop are his:
“Backing up Mr. Biden’s files for any repair did not require Mr. Mac Isaac to review the contents of any such files,” a lawyer for Biden wrote. “Mr. Biden did not consent to Mr. Mac Isaac gaining access to the content of those files in April 2019 or at any other time.”
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Hunter needs a new lawyer since his current one just inadvertantely confirmed (not that there was any doubt) that the contents of the laptop are his:
“Backing up Mr. Biden’s files for any repair did not require Mr. Mac Isaac to review the contents of any such files,” a lawyer for Biden wrote. “Mr. Biden did not consent to Mr. Mac Isaac gaining access to the content of those files in April 2019 or at any other time.”
But confirms that Mr. Mac Isaac had access to those files. And could have modified them. Or gotten someone else to modify them, and modify servers to make the files look legit. Someone like the Russians who would have the knowledge and means to do all of that.
It's one thing if the laptop was in continuous position of the FBI or the police. It's another thing if it was in possession of someone hostile to Biden and his father. I don't see how this doesn't destroy the value of this 'evidence'.
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But confirms that Mr. Mac Isaac had access to those files. And could have modified them. Or gotten someone else to modify them, and modify servers to make the files look legit. Someone like the Russians who would have the knowledge and means to do all of that.
It's one thing if the laptop was in continuous position of the FBI or the police. It's another thing if it was in possession of someone hostile to Biden and his father. I don't see how this doesn't destroy the value of this 'evidence'.
Using the time-honored JFK CTer tactic that someone "could" have altered the evidence? It's possible. There is no evidence, however, of such and presumably the FBI could figure out if a computer guy altered evidence. He is not exactly Bill Gates. But keep telling yourself that and ignoring the fact that the crack addicted son of the president was paid millions from several foreign sources including Russia and China. And the "big guy" got a cut. If this were Trump, he would be in a cage.
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Using the time-honored JFK CTer tactic that someone "could" have altered the evidence? It's possible. There is no evidence, however, of such and presumably the FBI could figure out if a computer guy altered evidence. He is not exactly Bill Gates. But keep telling yourself that and ignoring the fact that the crack addicted son of the president was paid millions from several foreign sources including Russia and China. And the "big guy" got a cut. If this were Trump, he would be in a cage.
Why don't you just wait and see what is actually on the laptop. There has been all sorts of speculation but so far the investigation of the FBI (which has been going for a while now) seems to have yielded very little.
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Why don't you just wait and see what is actually on the laptop. There has been all sorts of speculation but so far the investigation of the FBI (which has been going for a while now) seems to have yielded very little.
How many more years should we wait? The FBI has already had it for three years. The fact that they haven't done anything is a function of political bias. Hunter wrote a book admitting to numerous drug and sex trafficking felonies. But at least we can put to rest the bizarre conspiracy narrative that the Russians were behind this. Another example of CTers claiming the evidence was manufactured to frame someone but then also claiming the evidence doesn't implicate them in a crime. Very amusing logical inconsistency.
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How many more years should we wait? The FBI has already had it for three years. The fact that they haven't done anything is a function of political bias. Hunter wrote a book admitting to numerous drug and sex trafficking felonies. But at least we can put to rest the bizarre conspiracy narrative that the Russians were behind this. Another example of CTers claiming the evidence was manufactured to frame someone but then also claiming the evidence doesn't implicate them in a crime. Very amusing logical inconsistency.
Four years now. They got the laptop in 2019.
Very unlikely that the FBI or Homeland Security wouldn't confirm that Russia was involved with violating the privacy of the President's son.
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How many more years should we wait? The FBI has already had it for three years. The fact that they haven't done anything is a function of political bias. Hunter wrote a book admitting to numerous drug and sex trafficking felonies. But at least we can put to rest the bizarre conspiracy narrative that the Russians were behind this. Another example of CTers claiming the evidence was manufactured to frame someone but then also claiming the evidence doesn't implicate them in a crime. Very amusing logical inconsistency.
How many more years should we wait?
As long as it takes. Or would you prefer they jump to conclusions, as you normally do?
The FBI has already had it for three years. The fact that they haven't done anything is a function of political bias.
Who says they haven't done anything? They may well have investigated it and found there simply is no there there. Not that you would ever accept that.
Hunter wrote a book admitting to numerous drug and sex trafficking felonies.
Have you read the book? I seriously doubt it....
Another example of CTers claiming the evidence was manufactured to frame someone but then also claiming the evidence doesn't implicate them in a crime.
Who exactly made those claims?
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How many more years should we wait? The FBI has already had it for three years. The fact that they haven't done anything is a function of political bias.
Who says they haven't done anything? They may well have investigated it and found there simply is no there there. Not that you would ever accept that.
Yes, I'm sure that is the case. And then they kept it to themselves. LOL. That contradicts reports from numerous media outlets including leftist propaganda arms such as CNN and CBS:
"The FBI months ago gathered what agents believed was sufficient evidence to charge Hunter Biden, the president's son, with crimes related to taxes and making a false statement when purchasing a gun, according to sources familiar with the investigation.
Evidence gathered by FBI and IRS investigators was sent to the U.S. Attorney's office in Delaware, according to the sources."
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Yes, I'm sure that is the case. And then they kept it to themselves. LOL. That contradicts reports from numerous media outlets including leftist propaganda arms such as CNN and CBS:
"The FBI months ago gathered what agents believed was sufficient evidence to charge Hunter Biden, the president's son, with crimes related to taxes and making a false statement when purchasing a gun, according to sources familiar with the investigation.
Evidence gathered by FBI and IRS investigators was sent to the U.S. Attorney's office in Delaware, according to the sources."
According to sources?
And then they kept it to themselves.
Do you advocate that the FBI holds a press conference about the outcome of every investigation?
"The FBI months ago gathered what agents believed was sufficient evidence to charge Hunter Biden, the president's son, with crimes related to taxes and making a false statement when purchasing a gun
So, possible tax evasion and a false statement to buy a gun? That's it? No influence peddling, no 10% for the "big guy"? Wow.... Call the media :D
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According to sources?
And then they kept it to themselves.
Do you advocate that the FBI holds a press conference about the outcome of every investigation?
"The FBI months ago gathered what agents believed was sufficient evidence to charge Hunter Biden, the president's son, with crimes related to taxes and making a false statement when purchasing a gun
So, possible tax evasion and a false statement to buy a gun? That's it? No influence peddling, no 10% for the "big guy"? Wow.... Call the media :D
Yes, why should the FBI clear up whether the President of the United States and his son were receiving millions from foreign governments? HA HA HA. They should just leave it a mystery. The public has no right to know that. The FBI certainly had no problem holding a press conference relating to the outcome of the Hillary Clinton investigation. If Hunter violated no laws, then let the FBI clear his name.
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Yes, why should the FBI clear up whether the President of the United States and his son were receiving millions from foreign governments? HA HA HA. They should just leave it a mystery. The public has no right to know that. The FBI certainly had no problem holding a press conference relating to the outcome of the Hillary Clinton investigation. If Hunter violated no laws, then let the FBI clear his name.
Yes, why should the FBI clear up whether the President of the United States and his son were receiving millions from foreign governments?
Where does it say that Joe Biden received millions from foreign governments?
Hunter Biden was and still is a private individual. He can make as much money as he can. Just like the Trump kids, but I never hear you complain about them not being investigated.
They should just leave it a mystery.
What mystery would that be? Where there is no smoke, there is also no fire. When the FBI doesn't turnover a case to the DOJ for prosecution, they simply do not have a case. No mystery at all.
The FBI certainly had no problem holding a press conference relating to the outcome of the Hillary Clinton investigation.
Yes, that was a pretty dumb thing to do. Not that it made any difference for fools like you who still claim she was guilty (of something.... :D)
If Hunter violated no laws, then let the FBI clear his name.
They may well have already done so, except perhaps for some tax evasion and a lie on a gun application (according to sources, right?)
But, just like with Clinton, it doesn't matter for you in any case. You'll just continue to make all sorts of allegations.
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Yes, why should the FBI clear up whether the President of the United States and his son were receiving millions from foreign governments?
Where does it say that Joe Biden received millions from foreign governments?
Hunter Biden was and still is a private individual. He can make as much money as he can. Just like the Trump kids, but I never hear you complain about them not being investigated.
They should just leave it a mystery.
What mystery would that be? Where there is no smoke, there is also no fire. When the FBI doesn't turnover a case to the DOJ for prosecution, they simply do not have a case. No mystery at all.
The FBI certainly had no problem holding a press conference relating to the outcome of the Hillary Clinton investigation.
Yes, that was a pretty dumb thing to do. Not that it made any difference for fools like you who still claim she was guilty (of something.... :D)
If Hunter violated no laws, then let the FBI clear his name.
They may well have already done so, except perhaps for some tax evasion and a lie on a gun application (according to sources, right?)
But, just like with Clinton, it doesn't matter for you in any case. You'll just continue to make all sorts of allegations.
The FBI can just clear it all up. They have had four years. If Hunter is just a private citizen who the Chinese, Russians, and Ukranians decided to pay millions for his expertise all on the up and up, then just say that. It's unfair to Hunter and the big guy if they have done nothing wrong to have this hanging over their heads. And the "only" thing Hunter has done wrong is tax evasion and gun charges? LOL.
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The FBI can just clear it all up. They have had four years. If Hunter is just a private citizen who the Chinese, Russians, and Ukranians decided to pay millions for his expertise all on the up and up, then just say that. It's unfair to Hunter and the big guy if they have done nothing wrong to have this hanging over their heads. And the "only" thing Hunter has done wrong is tax evasion and gun charges? LOL.
The FBI can just clear it all up.
They can, but they don't have to and they won't. They are not in the business of declaring people innocent. They investigate and if something is there they pass it on for prosecution. That's it!
The public has no more right to information about Hunter Biden than it does to information about you!
It's unfair to Hunter and the big guy if they have done nothing wrong to have this hanging over their heads.
They only have it hanging over their heads because people like you try to make a big deal out of it and simply won't stop. To reasonable people it's enough to conclude they did nothing wrong when they don't get prosecuted.
And the "only" thing Hunter has done wrong is tax evasion and gun charges?
According to sources.... remember?
Btw show me a person who claims not to evade taxes when he can and I'll show you a liar.
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CNN (the original American channel that airs in North America) was going to run a documentary on Dionne Warwick tonight. Instead they have been going live for hours about the Chinese "spy balloon" shoot down. One talking-head just said he didn't think it would lead to war.
Tell me this nonsense isn't getting more than a passing mention on news channels outside America.
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CNN (the original American channel that airs in North America) was going to run a documentary on Dionne Warwick tonight. Instead they have been going live for hours about the Chinese "spy balloon" shoot down. One talking-head just said he didn't think it would lead to war.
Tell me this nonsense isn't getting more than a passing mention on news channels outside America.
Yes, only a million Americans died from a possible biological weapon from China. Why should we be concerned with an enormous balloon that could have contained anything from a nuclear weapon to another such threat? Canada was a big help as well. Trudeau likely soiled himself and offered terms of surrender when the balloon passed over Canada.
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Yes, only a million Americans died from a possible biological weapon from China. Why should we be concerned with an enormous balloon that could have contained anything from a nuclear weapon to another such threat? Canada was a big help as well. Trudeau likely soiled himself and offered terms of surrender when the balloon passed over Canada.
How queer are you Americans if you're freaking out over a balloon? Half of you dislike being bordered on a country like Canada? What weirdos.
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Yes, only a million Americans died from a possible biological weapon from China. Why should we be concerned with an enormous balloon that could have contained anything from a nuclear weapon to another such threat? Canada was a big help as well. Trudeau likely soiled himself and offered terms of surrender when the balloon passed over Canada.
Yes, only a million Americans died from a possible biological weapon from China. Why should we be concerned with an enormous balloon that could have contained anything from a nuclear weapon to another such threat?
Utter paranoia and fearmongering. Classic GOP BS! Some things will never change.
Covid was/is an epidemic that killed people all over the world. Only a paranoid fool would consider it to be an Chinese attack on Americans with "a possible biological weapon". What purpose would it serve China to kill large number of people all over the planet, including now many of their own population? Something went clearly wrong, that's for sure, but to classify it as an attack on America is just simply idiotic.
And it's even more ridiculous to consider a slow moving (and thus easy to detect and destroy) balloon to be a possible carrier of a nuclear or chemical weapon. But the mere fact that you are "concerned" about that possibility is extremely telling about your paranoid state of mind.
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Yes, only a million Americans died from a possible biological weapon from China. Why should we be concerned with an enormous balloon that could have contained anything from a nuclear weapon to another such threat?
Utter paranoia and fearmongering. Classic GOP BS! Some things will never change.
Covid was an epidemic that killed people all over the world. Only a paranoid fool would consider it to be an Chinese attack on Americans with "a possible biological weapon". What purpose would it serve China to kill large number of people all over the planet, including now many of their own population? Something went clearly wrong, that's for sure, but to classify it as an attack on America is just simply idiotic.
And it's even more ridiculous to consider a slow moving (and thus easy to detect and destroy) balloon to be a possible carrier of a nuclear or chemical weapon. But the mere fact that you are "concerned" about that possibility is extremely telling about your paranoid state of mind.
Talk about a strawman. LOL. No one said that COVID targeted only the US. There are certain facts. COVID originated in China. Whether it originated in a lab and for what purpose is still unclear due to the complete lack of cooperation from the Chinese government including covering up the outbreak until it was too late to contain. Over one million Americans have died from it. More than in any war. Maybe check your history books on the use of balloons before demonstrating your complete ignorance. The Japanese used them to kill American citizens with bombs during WWII. That was 70 years ago using no technology except the wind. A Chinese balloon can be navigated to any point and carry whatever the Chinese decide to put on it including a bomb or biological agent.
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How queer are you Americans if you're freaking out over a balloon? Half of you dislike being bordered on a country like Canada? What weirdos.
I'm not aware of a single American who "dislikes" having a border with Canada or who even gives it a single thought. Canada is a complete nonfactor in American society and politics. Not one in a hundred Americans could name the capital of Canada. We leave it to the UK to govern it.
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Talk about a strawman. LOL. No one said that COVID targeted only the US. There are certain facts. COVID originated in China. Whether it originated in a lab and for what purpose is still unclear due to the complete lack of cooperation from the Chinese government including covering up the outbreak until it was too late to contain. Over one million Americans have died from it. More than in any war. Maybe check your history books on the use of balloons before demonstrating your complete ignorance. The Japanese used them to kill American citizens with bombs during WWII. That was 70 years ago using no technology except the wind. A Chinese balloon can be navigated to any point and carry whatever the Chinese decide to put on it including a bomb or biological agent.
Paranoid, fearmongering and fanatic as well. Your life must be pure hell.
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Paranoid, fearmongering and fanatic as well. Your life must be pure hell.
I just stated facts. What are you taking issue with? That COVID originated in China? That a million Americans died from it? That it is unclear whether it started in a lab becaue the Chinese government has not cooperated? That balloons have been used to deliver bombs to the American mainland using WWII technology? These are all documented facts. Why are you so angry and take it personally when having a discussion? I realize that you are likely embarrassed to have your nonsense exposed but get a grip on your emotions.
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I just stated facts. What are you taking issue with? That COVID originated in China? That a million Americans died from it? That it is unclear whether it started in a lab becaue the Chinese government has not cooperated? That balloons have been used to deliver bombs to the American mainland using WWII technology? These are all documented facts. Why are you so angry and take it personally when having a discussion? I realize that you are likely embarrassed to have your nonsense exposed but get a grip on your emotions.
I just stated facts.
No you didn't. You clearly implied that China purposely released Covid on the world to kill Americans. Why else would you even bring it up in a post about a balloon? This comment of yours leaves no room for misunderstanding what you were saying.
No one said that COVID targeted only the US.
Who targeted Covid, Richard?
And balloons may have been a potential weapon carrier nearly a decade ago, but technology now is such that it is completely idiotic to even suggest that a balloon could deliver a nuclear or biological weapon.
Why are you so angry and take it personally when having a discussion?
What makes you think I'm angry? That's just more paranoia from somebody who is completely incapable of having a normal discussion.
I realize that you are likely embarrassed to have your nonsense exposed but get a grip on your emotions.
LOL
In desperate need of a distraction, are you?
Thanks for the laugh. Thumb1:
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I just stated facts.
No you didn't. You clearly implied that China purposely released Covid on the world to kill Americans. Why else would you even bring it up in a post about a balloon? This comment of yours leaves no room for misunderstanding what you were saying.
Who targeted Covid, Richard?
And balloons may have been a potential weapon carrier nearly a decade ago, but technology now is such that it is completely idiotic to even suggest that a balloon could deliver a nuclear or biological weapon.
I'm not sure what you are rambling about here. Are you just trying to belabor the discussion? I said it was still "unclear" whether China did so. It is U-N-C-L-E-A-R. Got that? Even you should understand what that means. Here are my exact words which are 100% accurate unless you know the exact origins of COVID;
"Whether it originated in a lab and for what purpose is still unclear due to the complete lack of cooperation from the Chinese government including covering up the outbreak until it was too late to contain."
Why would it be "idiotic" to use a balloon to deliver a bomb or biological weapon using a modern balloon when it worked during WWII using just the wind? The Chinese are not using a balloon from a kid's birthday party but a balloon with a power source and navigation system. It is apparently capable of penetrating US airspace unnoticed. That is an enormous advantage over more sophisticated weapons which is why China is apparently using them.
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I'm not sure what you are rambling about here. Are you just trying to belabor the discussion? I said it was still "unclear" whether China did so. It is U-N-C-L-E-A-R. Got that? Even you should understand what that means. Here are my exact words which are 100% accurate unless you know the exact origins of COVID;
"Whether it originated in a lab and for what purpose is still unclear due to the complete lack of cooperation from the Chinese government including covering up the outbreak until it was too late to contain."
Why would it be "idiotic" to use a balloon to deliver a bomb or biological weapon using a modern balloon when it worked during WWII using just the wind? The Chinese are not using a balloon from a kid's birthday party but a balloon with a power source and navigation system. It is apparently capable of penetrating US airspace unnoticed. That is an enormous advantage over more sophisticated weapons which is why China is apparently using them.
Oh boy.... you kinda forgot that you used the word "targeted".
When you target somebody it isn't an accident. But why are you backpedaling now? Why not simply say what you truly believe instead of dancing around. It's pretty obvious what you were implying anyway.
Why would it be "idiotic" to use a balloon to deliver a bomb or biological weapon using a modern balloon when it worked during WWII using just the wind?
It is apparently capable of penetrating US airspace unnoticed.
But it wasn't unnoticed! Isn't one of your many complaints that they didn't shoot the thing down when the first noticed it?
Btw we now learn that have been another 3 balloons when Trump was in office. They were noticed also but they didn't tell anybody! Go figure....
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Oh boy.... you kinda forgot that you used the word "targeted".
When you target somebody it isn't an accident. But why are you backpedaling now? Why not simply say what you truly believe instead of dancing around. It's pretty obvious what you were implying anyway.
Why would it be "idiotic" to use a balloon to deliver a bomb or biological weapon using a modern balloon when it worked during WWII using just the wind?
It is apparently capable of penetrating US airspace unnoticed.
But it wasn't unnoticed! Isn't one of your many complaints that they didn't shoot the thing down when the first noticed it?
Btw we now learn that have been another 3 balloons when Trump was in office. They were noticed also but they didn't tell anybody! Go figure....
Have you suffered some type of head injury? I said over one million Americans died from COVID (a fact). That it originated in China (a fact). And that it was "unclear" whether COVID was targeted to the US as part of a biological agent or accident at a lab because China covered up its origins by not fully cooperating in the investigation.
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Have you suffered some type of head injury? I said over one million Americans died from COVID (a fact). That it originated in China (a fact). And that it was "unclear" whether COVID was targeted to the US as part of a biological agent or accident at a lab because China covered up its origins by not fully cooperating in the investigation.
Moving the goalposts again?
You never said it was unclear whether Covid was targeted to the US. You simply stated that it was targeted at the US, which by itself is also false.
Covid was detected in Europe earlier than it was in the US, and it ultimately killed people all over the word, including in China itself. If Covid was indeed targeted to the US (your claim!), this would be a very strange way to doing it.
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Moving the goalposts again?
You never said it was unclear whether Covid was targeted to the US. You simply stated that it was targeted at the US, which by itself is also false.
Covid was detected in Europe earlier than it was in the US, and it ultimately killed people all over the word, including in China itself. If Covid was indeed targeted to the US (your claim!), this would be a very strange way to doing it.
Whew. Get the tin foil. It would be strange to transmit a biological weapon to the US via "Europe"? HA HA HA. Please let Martin work for the Chinese. China: How are we going to get this virus to the US? How about an airplane? Martin: That will never work. HA HA HA. Of course no one has claimed that this is what happened. It is a "strawman." I simply indicated that the origins of COVID were UNCLEAR because the Commie Chinese government covered it up. The point being that if the Chinese were going to distribute such a biological agent or even a nuclear bomb they could do so via one of these balloons. Martin has taken the discussion down his usual rabbit hole of lunacy.
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Whew. Get the tin foil. It would be strange to transmit a biological weapon to the US via "Europe"? HA HA HA. Please let Martin work for the Chinese. China: How are we going to get this virus to the US? How about an airplane? Martin: That will never work. HA HA HA. Of course no one has claimed that this is what happened. It is a "strawman." I simply indicated that the origins of COVID were UNCLEAR because the Commie Chinese government covered it up. The point being that if the Chinese were going to distribute such a biological agent or even a nuclear bomb they could do so via one of these balloons. Martin has taken the discussion down his usual rabbit hole of lunacy.
It would be strange to transmit a biological weapon to the US via "Europe"? HA HA HA. Please let Martin work for the Chinese. China: How are we going to get this virus to the US? How about an airplane? Martin: That will never work. HA HA HA.
So, now it becomes an attack on the US by releasing a virus in Europe. Hiliarious, and, of course, you don't understand at all this only exposes the true level of your paranoia. :D
It takes a paranoid mind to see attacks on the US everywhere. Remember the so-called caravans that we're going to invade the south?
I simply indicated that the origins of COVID were UNCLEAR because the Commie Chinese government covered it up.
Yes you did, but then you said it was targeted to the US, which implies it was a weapon to be used against the US...
The point being that if the Chinese were going to distribute such a biological agent or even a nuclear bomb they could do so via one of these balloons.
Sure, they could also do it by having a donkey carrying it, crossing the border in the south ..... Or what about a flock of seagulls released from a ship in the Mexican gulf carrying vials of poison....
Or you are just a paranoid fearmonger.
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It would be strange to transmit a biological weapon to the US via "Europe"? HA HA HA. Please let Martin work for the Chinese. China: How are we going to get this virus to the US? How about an airplane? Martin: That will never work. HA HA HA.
So, now it becomes an attack on the US by releasing a virus in Europe. Hiliarious, and, of course, you don't understand at all this only exposes the true level of your paranoia. :D
It takes a paranoid mind to see attacks on the US everywhere. Remember the so-called caravans that we're going to invade the south?
I simply indicated that the origins of COVID were UNCLEAR because the Commie Chinese government covered it up.
Yes you did, but then you said it was targeted to the US, which implies it was a weapon to be used against the US...
The point being that if the Chinese were going to distribute such a biological agent or even a nuclear bomb they could do so via one of these balloons.
Sure, they could also do it by having a donkey carrying it, crossing the border in the south ..... Or what about a flock of seagulls released from a ship in the Mexican gulf carrying vials of poison....
Or you are just a paranoid fearmonger.
Again, I never said it was targeted to the US although that remains a possibility because the origins remain UNCLEAR. You have repeated this bizarre lie several times now. Anyone can read this thread. I said COVID originated in China (a fact) and that over one million Americans have died from it (a fact). The origins remain UNCLEAR (a fact). Perhaps it was an accident. Perhaps it was a naturally occurring. Perhaps it was some type of biological agent. We don't know and likely will never know because the Chinese covered up the origins of the virus. None of this is relevant, however, to the point being made which is that a sophisticated Chinese balloon poses a number of obvious security risks including carrying a bomb or biological agent. That remains true regardless of the origin of COVID.
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Again, I never said it was targeted to the US although that remains a possibility because the origins remain UNCLEAR. You have repeated this bizarre lie several times now. Anyone can read this thread. I said COVID originated in China (a fact) and that over one million Americans have died from it (a fact). The origins remain UNCLEAR (a fact). Perhaps it was an accident. Perhaps it was a naturally occurring. Perhaps it was some type of biological agent. We don't know and likely will never know because the Chinese covered up the origins of the virus. None of this is relevant, however, to the point being made which is that a sophisticated Chinese balloon poses a number of obvious security risks including carrying a bomb or biological agent. That remains true regardless of the origin of COVID.
I never said it was targeted to the US
True, you said;
No one said that COVID targeted only the US.
but never specified which other countries, in addition to the US were targetted.
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I never said it was targeted to the US
True, you said;
but never specified which other countries, in addition to the US were targetted.
Whew. The astounding irony here is that you are the one who interjected the suggestion China targeted ONLY the US as a way to discount the threat of a biological agent. You created a strawman asking why China would attack the US using COVID. My response to that question was 100% accurate. No one ever indicated that COVID was targeted only to the US. Again, though, I've now confirmed a dozen times or more that we don't know the origins of COVID and therefore can't discount the possibility that it was developed as a biological agent. Its origin and purpose is UNCLEAR. I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand or what point that you are trying to make since - once again - whether China targeted a biological agent to the world or not has no relevance to the balloon. You argued that this balloon posed no security risk to the US. That is profoundly idiotic. There are examples dating back to WWII and beyond of balloons being used for military purposes including bombs being delivered to the US mainland during WWII resulting in civilian deaths. They can be used for such purposes. That is simply a fact. There is nothing controversial about that conclusion. Why you would take issue with it to such an extent is bizarre. Even from you.
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Whew. The astounding irony here is that you are the one who interjected the suggestion China targeted ONLY the US as a way to discount the threat of a biological agent. You created a strawman asking why China would attack the US using COVID. My response to that question was 100% accurate. No one ever indicated that COVID was targeted only to the US. Again, though, I've now confirmed a dozen times or more that we don't know the origins of COVID and therefore can't discount the possibility that it was developed as a biological agent. Its origin and purpose is UNCLEAR. I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand or what point that you are trying to make since - once again - whether China targeted a biological agent to the world or not has no relevance to the balloon. You argued that this balloon posed no security risk to the US. That is profoundly idiotic. There are examples dating back to WWII and beyond of balloons being used for military purposes including bombs being delivered to the US mainland during WWII resulting in civilian deaths. They can be used for such purposes. That is simply a fact. There is nothing controversial about that conclusion. Why you would take issue with it to such an extent is bizarre. Even from you.
Your reading comprehension problem is getting worse. Nearly as bad as your constant misrepresentations of what was actually said.
you are the one who interjected the suggestion China targeted ONLY the US
No I didn't.
You created a strawman asking why China would attack the US using COVID.
No I didn't.
My response to that question was 100% accurate. No one ever indicated that COVID was targeted only to the US.
Targeting a country is an act of deliberate aggression. So, when you used the word "targeted" you were clearly saying that you believed that China had released the virus on purpose, regardless of all this "it's unclear" stuff. The use of the word "targeted" exposed your paranoia.
You argued that this balloon posed no security risk to the US. That is profoundly idiotic.
It would be idiotic, if it were true. But it isn't. I never argued any such thing.
Why you would take issue with it to such an extent is bizarre.
What exactly do I take issue with? Is it possible that a balloon is used to deliver a nuclear or biological weapon? Sure it is, but it's just as unlikely as a using a donkey or a flock of seagulls to deliver the weapon.
The mere fact that your first thoughts about the balloon were that it could deliver a nuclear or biological weapon, despite the fact that the authorities have always called it a possible spy-balloon, clearly demonstrates that you have lost your grip on reality. You than went even further by saying that Covid had killed a million Americans (which is true but has nothing to do with the balloon) and that China had purposely targeted not only the US but also other countries.
The combination is a classic example of GOP / MAGA paranoia and fearmongering. You see perceived threats everywhere. It's pathetic.
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Your reading comprehension problem is getting worse. Nearly as bad as your constant misrepresentations of what was actually said.
you are the one who interjected the suggestion China targeted ONLY the US
No I didn't.
You created a strawman asking why China would attack the US using COVID.
No I didn't.
My response to that question was 100% accurate. No one ever indicated that COVID was targeted only to the US.
Targeting a country is an act of deliberate aggression. So, when you used the word "targeted" you were clearly saying that you believed that China had released the virus on purpose, regardless of all this "it's unclear" stuff. The use of the word "targeted" exposed your paranoia.
You argued that this balloon posed no security risk to the US. That is profoundly idiotic.
It would be idiotic, if it were true. But it isn't. I never argued any such thing.
Why you would take issue with it to such an extent is bizarre.
What exactly do I take issue with? Is it possible that a balloon is used to deliver a nuclear or biological weapon? Sure it is, but it's just as unlikely as a using a donkey or a flock of seagulls to deliver the weapon.
The mere fact that your first thoughts about the balloon were that it could deliver a nuclear or biological weapon, despite the fact that the authorities have always called it a possible spy-balloon, clearly demonstrates that you have lost your grip on reality. You than went even further by saying that Covid had killed a million Americans (which is true but has nothing to do with the balloon) and that China had purposely targeted not only the US but also other countries.
The combination is a classic example of GOP / MAGA paranoia and fearmongering. You see perceived threats everywhere. It's pathetic.
Unreal. My first thoughts about the balloon were that it posed a security risk. That can come in many forms. Even weak Biden shot it down for that very reason (although inexplicably only after it had traversed the entire US). It is a violation of international law. There are many potential security risks including the use of such a balloon to deliver a bomb or biological agent. How do we know this? Because there are actual examples of such including balloon attacks during WWII that killed US citizens on the mainland with - wait for it - a bomb. It is not only theoretically possible but a reality. Maybe in your socialist "Europe" you have grown used to capitulation and weakness but it is taking Americans some adjustment under Old Joe to accept that defeatist mindset.
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Unreal. My first thoughts about the balloon were that it posed a security risk. That can come in many forms. Even weak Biden shot it down for that very reason (although inexplicably only after it had traversed the entire US). It is a violation of international law. There are many potential security risks including the use of such a balloon to deliver a bomb or biological agent. How do we know this? Because there are actual examples of such including balloon attacks during WWII that killed US citizens on the mainland with - wait for it - a bomb. It is not only theoretically possible but a reality. Maybe in your socialist "Europe" you have grown used to capitulation and weakness but it is taking Americans some adjustment under Old Joe to accept that defeatist mindset.
It is not only theoretically possible but a reality.
In your warped oversimplified reality perhaps. Here is some food for thought; perhaps they could use the balloon to target Covid to the US..... HAHAHAHAHA
Maybe in your socialist "Europe" you have grown used to capitulation and weakness but it is taking Americans some adjustment under Old Joe to accept that defeatist mindset.
So much ignorance.
socialist "Europe"
capitulation and weakness
defeatist mindset.
Hilarious. :D
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It is not only theoretically possible but a reality.
In your warped oversimplified reality perhaps. Here is some food for thought; perhaps they could use the balloon to target Covid to the US..... HAHAHAHAHA
Still not understanding. There is a risk that a biological agent could be delivered via a balloon. That is simply a fact. Of course, that is just one of many potential risks. It is a violation of international law for exactly that reason. Even Old Joe shot it down because it posed a security risk (albeit after it had transversed the entire country). No reasonable person would take issue with the balloon posing security risks whether for surveillance or other purpose. I'm not sure why you are so hung up on the balloon. It didn't fly over "Europe" or they would have surrendered and the Chinese government would have restricted your access to the Internet. Maybe not a bad thing.
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Still not understanding. There is a risk that a biological agent could be delivered via a balloon. That is simply a fact. Of course, that is just one of many potential risks. It is a violation of international law for exactly that reason. Even Old Joe shot it down because it posed a security risk (albeit after it had transversed the entire country). No reasonable person would take issue with the balloon posing security risks whether for surveillance or other purpose. I'm not sure why you are so hung up on the balloon. It didn't fly over "Europe" or they would have surrendered and the Chinese government would have restricted your access to the Internet. Maybe not a bad thing.
There is a risk that a biological agent could be delivered via a balloon. That is simply a fact.
Just like it is a risk that they would deliver such a biological agent using a flock of seagulls.
It is a violation of international law for exactly that reason.
Sure..
No reasonable person would take issue with the balloon posing security risks whether for surveillance or other purpose.
And nobody is taking issue with it being a security risk. However, only an unreasonable paranoid person would instantly leap from a spy-balloon (which they said is was and it turned to be) to fearmongering about the balloon being a means to deliver a biological or nuclear weapon.
It didn't fly over "Europe" or they would have surrendered and the Chinese government would have restricted your access to the Internet.
Hilarious! :D
It would be nice for once if you actually knew what you are talking about!
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There is a risk that a biological agent could be delivered via a balloon. That is simply a fact.
Just like it is a risk that they would deliver such a biological agent using a flock of seagulls.
It is a violation of international law for exactly that reason.
Sure..
No reasonable person would take issue with the balloon posing security risks whether for surveillance or other purpose.
And nobody is taking issue with it being a security risk. However, only an unreasonable paranoid person would instantly leap from a spy-balloon (which they said is was and it turned to be) to fearmongering about the balloon being a means to deliver a biological or nuclear weapon.
It didn't fly over "Europe" or they would have surrendered and the Chinese government would have restricted your access to the Internet.
Hilarious! :D
It would be nice for once if you actually knew what you are talking about!
In which you compare a sophisticated balloon with guidance and surveillance capacity to a bird. And we are not just talking about this balloon but future balloons. They could contain anything. Maybe even a brain. Hopefully that one lands in your backyard.
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In which you compare a sophisticated balloon with guidance and surveillance capacity to a bird. And we are not just talking about this balloon but future balloons. They could contain anything. Maybe even a brain. Hopefully that one lands in your backyard.
a sophisticated balloon with guidance and surveillance capacity
Did you examine the balloon?
And we are not just talking about this balloon but future balloons.
You mean like the smaller one they just shot down?
They could contain anything.
Of course they could, but you instantly suggested it would be a biological or nuclear weapon. In doing so you exposed your paranoia and fearmongering.... That was my point. Thanks for proving it! Thumb1:
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a sophisticated balloon with guidance and surveillance capacity
Did you examine the balloon?
And we are not just talking about this balloon but future balloons.
You mean like the smaller one they just shot down?
They could contain anything.
Of course they could, but you instantly suggested it would be a biological or nuclear weapon. In doing so you exposed your paranoia and fearmongering.... That was my point. Thanks for proving it! Thumb1:
"Seagull" Martin calling from "Europe." HA HA HA. Comedy gold.
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If Hunter were a Republican, he would have been convicted and imprisoned years ago.
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If Hunter were a Republican, he would have been convicted and imprisoned years ago.
Maybe in your alternate reality, where all Republicans are a "victim" regardless of how dishonest they really are.
It must be an amazing alternate reality, considering your delusional claim that Jimmy Carter is dead and some Republicans have already paid tribute to him.
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Hunter has now stupidly sued the owner of the computer store for "invasion of privacy" thus removing any doubt that the computer and its contents are his. So much for that conspiracy theory and lie told by Ukraine Joe, the media, and the "intelligence" experts that it was created by Russian agents. This despite Hunter signing an agreement with computer store owner that if he didn't pick up the computer within a specific timeframe that the computer and its contents would transfer to the store owner. And on the same week we learn that the Biden family including the industrious Hunter received a $3 million payment from China! Good timing Hunter.
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Hunter has now stupidly sued the owner of the computer store for "invasion of privacy" thus removing any doubt that the computer and its contents are his. So much for that conspiracy theory and lie told by Ukraine Joe, the media, and the "intelligence" experts that it was created by Russian agents. This despite Hunter signing an agreement with computer store owner that if he didn't pick up the computer within a specific timeframe that the computer and its contents would transfer to the store owner. And on the same week we learn that the Biden family including the industrious Hunter received a $3 million payment from China! Good timing Hunter.
Grumpy, you really haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Hunter Biden didn't decide to sue John Paul Mac Isaac out of the blue. He brought a countersuit in a civil case that Mac Isaac started against him and others for alleged defamation, which, to say the least, is pretty stupid on Mac Isaac's part as Hunter Biden has never said anything in public about the matter. The contents of the lap top was always going to be discussed in that case, so there was no point for Biden to hold back.
Hunter rightfully claims that Mac Isaac had no right to duplicate files on the laptop and provide them to third parties like a lawyer working for Rudy Giuliani. Even if there was an agreement that would pass ownership of the lap top to the store owner if it wasn't picked up within a specific timeframe that still does not give the right to Mac Isaac to violate another person's privacy by making copies and distributing them to others. What he should have done is simply delete the contents. Also, the mere fact that Mac Isaac has also passed on parts of the alleged contents to others, like Steve Bannon, clearly means that he had full access to the entire contents and could have manipulated it in any way he wanted to, making the alleged contents unreliable.
The countersuit was the best move Hunter Biden could have made, but I don't expect Grumpy to understand that!
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Grumpy, you really haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Hunter Biden didn't decide to sue John Paul Mac Isaac out of the blue. He brought a countersuit in a civil case that Mac Isaac started against him and others for alleged defamation, which, to say the least, is pretty stupid on Mac Isaac's part as Hunter Biden has never said anything in public about the matter. The contents of the lap top was always going to be discussed in that case, so there was no point for Biden to hold back.
If only Roger Collins was here to provide his legal insight! Of course, a countersuit is a "suit." There is no point in making such a distinction except to deflect. You don't understand the obvious point. Hunter, Ukraine Joe, and the leftist media contended that the laptop and its contents were the product of Russian disinformation. Now Hunter is alleging that his privacy has been invaded because the contents of the laptop were made available. How is it an invasion of his privacy unless the laptop and its contents are his? He can't have it both ways. HA HA HA. Such idiocy is amusing.
The FBI has had the computer for many years. You don't think that the FBI could determine if the contents of the laptop were tampered with? The guy who owns the computer shop is smarter than the entire resources of the FBI and concocted this whole plot? Wow. This guy would be in a maximum security prison if there was a scintilla of evidence that he tampered with the contents. And of course, if you believe the contents were manufactured to frame Hunter for a crime, then by implication you must accept that the contents of the laptop prove crimes were committed by Hunter. The entire purpose of the fakery. So you apparently agree that the laptop proves crimes by the Biden family. Lastly, the civil aspects of this case are not important even if Hunter had a real case. It is the criminal component that has relevance. Many people have been convicted for crimes because their computers contained evidence of a crime. The fact that a computer store guy brought evidence of a crime to the attention of the FBI does negate the ability of law enforcement to use the contents to prosecute Biden, Inc. Hunter abandoned his property at the computer store. He never picked it up or contacted the guy. He signed a contract. The only thing keeping him out of prison is the corrupt political justice system.
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If only Roger Collins was here to provide his legal insight! Of course, a countersuit is a "suit." There is no point in making such a distinction except to deflect. You don't understand the obvious point. Hunter, Ukraine Joe, and the leftist media contended that the laptop and its contents were the product of Russian disinformation. Now Hunter is alleging that his privacy has been invaded because the contents of the laptop were made available. How is it an invasion of his privacy unless the laptop and its contents are his? He can't have it both ways. HA HA HA. Such idiocy is amusing.
The FBI has had the computer for many years. You don't think that the FBI could determine if the contents of the laptop were tampered with? The guy who owns the computer shop is smarter than the entire resources of the FBI and concocted this whole plot? Wow. This guy would be in a maximum security prison if there was a scintilla of evidence that he tampered with the contents. And of course, if you believe the contents were manufactured to frame Hunter for a crime, then by implication you must accept that the contents of the laptop prove crimes were committed by Hunter. The entire purpose of the fakery. So you apparently agree that the laptop proves crimes by the Biden family. Lastly, the civil aspects of this case are not important even if Hunter had a real case. It is the criminal component that has relevance. Many people have been convicted for crimes because their computers contained evidence of a crime. The fact that a computer store guy brought evidence of a crime to the attention of the FBI does negate the ability of law enforcement to use the contents to prosecute Biden, Inc. Hunter abandoned his property at the computer store. He never picked it up or contacted the guy. He signed a contract. The only thing keeping him out of prison is the corrupt political justice system.
Well, I said you wouldn't understand what I was saying and it turns out I was right. :D
You don't understand the obvious point.
Yes, I do... and it's a pathetically stupid point.
Hunter, Ukraine Joe, and the leftist media contended that the laptop and its contents were the product of Russian disinformation.
This demonstrably false, Hunter and Joe Biden never made any such claim and all the media did was speculate, just like the crazy right wing media did when they claimed there was incriminating material on the laptop.
Now Hunter is alleging that his privacy has been invaded because the contents of the laptop were made available.
As a matter of law he is correct. Mac Isaac has no legal right to copy and distribute Hunter's private information.
How is it an invasion of his privacy unless the laptop and its contents are his? He can't have it both ways. HA HA HA. Such idiocy is amusing.
You still haven't figured it out. All Hunter is saying in the lawsuit is that some of his private files were on the laptop. He does not say he owns the laptop. It isn't all that difficult to understand, yet you seem to be struggling again.
Anyway, since Hunter never claimed ownership of the laptop, your stupid question is moot
The FBI has had the computer for many years. You don't think that the FBI could determine if the contents of the laptop were tampered with?
Maybe they can, but I doubt they would be able to tell if files have been added. In any event, as no charges have been filed against Hunter Biden after so many years there simply may not be anything incriminating on the laptop after all.
So you apparently agree that the laptop proves crimes by the Biden family.
I don't know what's on the laptop and neither do you, but Hunter Biden or anybody of the Biden family not being charged with crimes seems to suggest there isn't anything incriminating there. Unlike you, I don't jump to conclusions based on speculation and wishful thinking.
It is the criminal component that has relevance.
What criminal component? There isn't any, except perhaps in your imagination. No criminal charges being filed = no criminal component exists. But even if there was one, the fact that evidence may have been obtained illegally (as may well be the case here) could have a serious negative impact on any criminal case. But that's just theory, as there is no criminal case.
Many people have been convicted for crimes because their computers contained evidence of a crime.
Sure, but in those cases that evidence was found as part of a lawful investigation. In this case a hard drive was sent to several third parties by a guy who had no legal right to do so. You can not conduct a lawful investigation based on fruit of a poisonous tree.
The fact that a computer store guy brought evidence of a crime to the attention of the FBI does negate the ability of law enforcement to use the contents to prosecute Biden, Inc.
Let's just wait what the outcome of the civil case is. If what Mac Isaac did was illegal, the laptop and it's contents is tainted forever. This isn't just a matter of a law abiding citizen providing evidence to law enforcement. This is a guy who made copies of private files and passed them on to a right wing newspaper as well as third parties like Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon. No law abiding person does this! And btw, how would a computer shop guy even be able to determine what constitutes a crime in the first place and why would he sent a copy of the hard drive inside a stuffed animal to his father in New Mexico ?
The only thing keeping him out of prison is the corrupt political justice system.
I see you've already "solved" the case again before you know all the factual circumstances and actual evidence. Now, why am I not surprised?
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Well, I said you wouldn't understand what I was saying and it turns out I was right. :D
You don't understand the obvious point.
Yes, I do... and it's a pathetically stupid point.
Hunter, Ukraine Joe, and the leftist media contended that the laptop and its contents were the product of Russian disinformation.
This demonstrably false, Hunter and Joe Biden never made any such claim and all the media did was speculate, just like the crazy right wing media did when they claimed there was incriminating material on the laptop.
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This is a demonstrable lie. Ukraine Joe has on multiple occasions claimed the laptop was the product of Russian disinformation. He did so during the debates. When he was recently asked if he still held that conclusion his answer was "yes, yes, yes." Why lie about this?
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This is a demonstrable lie. Ukraine Joe has on multiple occasions claimed the laptop was the product of Russian disinformation. He did so during the debates. When he was recently asked if he still held that conclusion his answer was "yes, yes, yes." Why lie about this?
It's hilarious that you show a clip from the biggest lying network on the planet!
Where exactly in this propaganda clip does Joe Biden say that the laptop was the product of Russian disinformation?
I hear the idiot Doocy ask if the story about Hunter is Russian disinformation and a smear campaign and it clearly still could be the first and most certainly was the latter.
I hear not a word about the laptop! The story is that the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden, but all he has ever said was that some of his private files seem to be on that laptop. That's what he says in his counterclaim against Mac Isaac and until today there isn't any conclusive evidence that the actual laptop did indeed belong to Hunter.
And you claimed Hunter also contended the same, but where's the proof? You haven't got any, simply because there isn't any.
Btw do you understand the difference between saying that the laptop was the product of Russian disinformation and that it could be the product of Russian disinformation?
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It's hilarious that you show a clip from the biggest lying network on the planet!
Where exactly in this propaganda clip does Joe Biden say that the laptop was the product of Russian disinformation?
I hear the idiot Doocy ask if the story about Hunter is Russian disinformation and a smear campaign and it clearly still could be the first and most certainly was the latter.
I hear not a word about the laptop! The story is that the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden, but all he has ever said was that some of his private files seem to be on that laptop. That's what he says in his counterclaim against Mac Isaac and until today there isn't any conclusive evidence that the actual laptop did indeed belong to Hunter.
And you claimed Hunter also contended the same, but where's the proof? You haven't got any, simply because there isn't any.
Btw do you understand the difference between saying that the laptop was the product of Russian disinformation and that it could be the product of Russian disinformation?
It's a clip of Ukraine Joe himself speaking. What difference does it make which network aired the clip? Are you saying Fox altered the film of Biden speaking? In response to a question about whether he still believes the stories about Hunter are the product of Russian disinformation, he says "yes, yes, yes." Do you think this is not related to the laptop? LOL. What other Hunter-related story has anyone ever claimed is the product of Russian disinformation? Weak contrarian sauce even by your low standards of idiocy. The laptop COULD be the product of Martian disinformation sent here via a time machine. There is absolutely no proof of such but it is possible. Almost anything is theoretically possible. That doesn't create any actual doubt, however. It just means you have dreamed up a baseless possibility that allows you to avoid accepting facts and evidence that you don't want to accept. A delusion.
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It's a clip of Ukraine Joe himself speaking. What difference does it make which network aired the clip? Are you saying Fox altered the film of Biden speaking? In response to a question about whether he still believes the stories about Hunter are the product of Russian disinformation, he says "yes, yes, yes." Do you think this is not related to the laptop? LOL. What other Hunter-related story has anyone ever claimed is the product of Russian disinformation? Weak contrarian sauce even by your low standards of idiocy. The laptop COULD be the product of Martian disinformation sent here via a time machine. There is absolutely no proof of such but it is possible. Almost anything is theoretically possible. That doesn't create any actual doubt, however. It just means you have dreamed up a baseless possibility that allows you to avoid accepting facts and evidence that you don't want to accept. A delusion.
In response to a question about whether he still believes the stories about Hunter are the product of Russian disinformation, he says "yes, yes, yes."
No, he was asked if the stories about Hunter are the product of Russian disinformation or a smear campaign. Biden answers that question with "yes".
There is no mention of a laptop.
Do you think this is not related to the laptop?
I'm sure you think it is, but in fact the President wasn't asked about a laptop. At best he was asked about a story involving a laptop. You don't understand the difference?
What other Hunter-related story has anyone ever claimed is the product of Russian disinformation?
I only watch clips from Fox news sometimes when I am bored and want to watch some comedy, so I wouldn't know.
The laptop COULD be the product of Martian disinformation sent here via a time machine.
This is what happens when you watch too much Fox news.... you believe just about everything no matter how pathetic.
There is absolutely no proof of such but it is possible. Almost anything is theoretically possible. That doesn't create any actual doubt, however.
If almost anything is theoretically possible, there's always doubt. That's why it is a theory and not a fact!
It just means you have dreamed up a baseless possibility that allows you to avoid accepting facts and evidence that you don't want to accept. A delusion.
What facts and evidence am I avoiding? Now why don't I expect a straightforward answer from you?
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In response to a question about whether he still believes the stories about Hunter are the product of Russian disinformation, he says "yes, yes, yes."
No, he was asked if the stories about Hunter are the product of Russian disinformation or a smear campaign. Biden answers that question with "yes".
There is no mention of a laptop.
Do you think this is not related to the laptop?
I'm sure you think it is, but in fact the President wasn't asked about a laptop. At best he was asked about a story involving a laptop. You don't understand the difference?
What other Hunter-related story has anyone ever claimed is the product of Russian disinformation?
I only watch clips from Fox news when I am bored, so I wouldn't know.
The laptop COULD be the product of Martian disinformation sent here via a time machine.
This is what happens when you watch too much Fox news.... you believe just about everything no matter how pathetic.
There is absolutely no proof of such but it is possible. Almost anything is theoretically possible. That doesn't create any actual doubt, however.
If almost anything is theoretically possible, there's always doubt. That's why it is a theory and not a fact!
It just means you have dreamed up a baseless possibility that allows you to avoid accepting facts and evidence that you don't want to accept. A delusion.
What facts and evidence am I avoiding? Now why don't I expect a straightforward answer from you?
Again, what story relating to Hunter Biden other than the laptop has ever been associated with Russian disinformation? What do you think Ukraine Joe believed he was being asked about? There could never be such a thing as a fact if you believe that a baseless possibility suggests sufficient doubt to preclude ever reaching any conclusion. That is contrarian defense attorney nonsense. Even the leftist rag Wash Post has confirmed that there is evidence to charge Hunter for tax and gun charges.
"Federal agents believe there is enough evidence to criminally charge Hunter Biden with tax crimes and with lying about his drug use when he bought a handgun in 2018, the Washington Post and CBS News have reported."
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Again, what story relating to Hunter Biden other than the laptop has ever been associated with Russian disinformation? What do you think Ukraine Joe believed he was being asked about? There could never be such a thing as a fact if you believe that a baseless possibility suggests sufficient doubt to preclude ever reaching any conclusion. That is contrarian defense attorney nonsense. Even the leftist rag Wash Post has confirmed that there is evidence to charge Hunter for tax and gun charges.
"Federal agents believe there is enough evidence to criminally charge Hunter Biden with tax crimes and with lying about his drug use when he bought a handgun in 2018, the Washington Post and CBS News have reported."
As predicted there is no answer here to my question. Again, what facts and evidence am I avoiding?
Even the leftist rag Wash Post has confirmed that there is evidence to charge Hunter for tax and gun charges.
"Federal agents believe there is enough evidence to criminally charge Hunter Biden with tax crimes and with lying about his drug use when he bought a handgun in 2018, the Washington Post and CBS News have reported."
Perhaps you shouldn't believe everything that's written in a newspaper.
Who cares what Federal agents believe, when no charges have been filed?
There are Federal agents who believe there is enough evidence for the wide range of criminal activity of Trump Inc. as well, but unless charges are brought it's all just opinions.
And what has Hunter Biden's alleged tax crimes and lying about his drug use to do with the alleged "corruption" and foreign money transfers of "Biden Inc" (whatever that is) that you were ranting about earlier? If Hunter Biden cheated on his taxes and used drugs, then prosecute him, but don't pretend it has something to do with his father or his family!
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The chickens are coming home to roost this week for Biden, Inc. The revelation that Blinken was behind the letter to discredit the laptop story is not surprising. And the confirmation that it was done to influence the election. An incredible story. Much worse than Watergate. And that is just one story of corruption. The IRS whistleblower apparently has evidence that Garland committed perjury in his efforts to protect Hunter. Amazing timing with Ukraine Joe preparing to announce his run for 2024 next week. The Dems are trying to send him a signal to retire to the nursing home.
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The chickens are coming home to roost this week for Biden, Inc. The revelation that Blinken was behind the letter to discredit the laptop story is not surprising. And the confirmation that it was done to influence the election. An incredible story. Much worse than Watergate. And that is just one story of corruption. The IRS whistleblower apparently has evidence that Garland committed perjury in his efforts to protect Hunter. Amazing timing with Ukraine Joe preparing to announce his run for 2024 next week. The Dems are trying to send him a signal to retire to the nursing home.
Amazing timing with Ukraine Joe preparing to announce his run for 2024 next week.
There is nothing amazing about the timing. At every election the Republicans concoct some sort of wacky "corruption story" that's "much worse than Watergate".
They did it with Hillary Clinton, tried to do it with Hunter Biden and now they want a second bite of the same apple. When the election is over, it all goes away, as if nothing happened.
Until, of course, they need another "corruption story".....
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Sounds like the indictments for Hunter are coming soon. More good timing for Ukraine Joe.
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Sounds like the indictments for Hunter are coming soon. More good timing for Ukraine Joe.
I heard the same song in 2020..... and look what happened! :D
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I heard the same song in 2020..... and look what happened! :D
The Dems are desperately leaking to try to discourage Ukraine Joe from running again. Suddenly DOJ is meeting with Hunter this week. Not good news. The walls are closing in. They are trying to save themselves like rats jumping a sinking ship after the revelations about the faked letter.
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The Dems are desperately leaking to try to discourage Ukraine Joe from running again. Suddenly DOJ is meeting with Hunter this week. Not good news. The walls are closing in. They are trying to save themselves like rats jumping a sinking ship after the revelations about the faked letter.
As per usual, you are confusing reality with your over-simplified wishful thinking fairytale.
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The chickens are coming home to roost this week for Biden, Inc. The revelation that Blinken was behind the letter to discredit the laptop story is not surprising. And the confirmation that it was done to influence the election. An incredible story. Much worse than Watergate. And that is just one story of corruption. The IRS whistleblower apparently has evidence that Garland committed perjury in his efforts to protect Hunter. Amazing timing with Ukraine Joe preparing to announce his run for 2024 next week. The Dems are trying to send him a signal to retire to the nursing home.
The revelation that Blinken was behind the letter to discredit the laptop story is not surprising.
What really isn't surprising is that this was just another one of Jim Jordan's lies.
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The walls are closing in on Hunter. His best hope is that the corrupt DOJ cuts him a cushy deal to avoid prison time. He is facing numerous felony charges. They will have to bring those charges soon to avoid conflict with the 2024 campaign.
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The walls are closing in on Hunter. His best hope is that the corrupt DOJ cuts him a cushy deal to avoid prison time. He is facing numerous felony charges. They will have to bring those charges soon to avoid conflict with the 2024 campaign.
He is facing numerous felony charges.
Wow... you know something nobody else knows or are you just wishful thinking?
They will have to bring those charges soon to avoid conflict with the 2024 campaign.
BS Hunter Biden isn't running for anything.
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He is facing numerous felony charges.
Wow... you know something nobody else knows or are you just wishful thinking?
They will have to bring those charges soon to avoid conflict with the 2024 campaign.
BS Hunter Biden isn't running for anything.
"Hunter isn't running for anything" - COMEDY GOLD. He is just bankrolling the "big guy." Hunter has aged a hundred years waiting for the charges. He knows they got him. He looks almost as old as Ukraine Joe now. That's even after supposedly giving up the drugs and booze. His only hope is that the corrupt DOJ offers him a deal to avoid jail. The stripper that he impregnated is also asking the judge to imprison Hunter until he provides the required financial disclosure in the child support case. What a classy guy stiffing his own daughter.
"The mother of Hunter Biden's four-year-old daughter, has requested a judge in Arkansas to imprison the president's son until he provides his financial records as required by the court."
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"Hunter isn't running for anything" - COMEDY GOLD. He is just bankrolling the "big guy." Hunter has aged a hundred years waiting for the charges. He knows they got him. He looks almost as old as Ukraine Joe now. That's even after supposedly giving up the drugs and booze. His only hope is that the corrupt DOJ offers him a deal to avoid jail. The stripper that he impregnated is also asking the judge to imprison Hunter until he provides the required financial disclosure in the child support case. What a classy guy stiffing his own daughter.
"The mother of Hunter Biden's four-year-old daughter, has requested a judge in Arkansas to imprison the president's son until he provides his financial records as required by the court."
"Hunter isn't running for anything" - COMEDY GOLD.
What's so funny? Is Hunter Biden running for anything or not? Well....?
He is just bankrolling the "big guy."
Is he? Really? And how does he do that? By evading taxes? Hilarious!
With Hillary it was Benghazi being "investigated" over and over again by the idiotic Republicans. One fantastic claim in the media after another about what they "had found" and what happened at the end? Nothing!
With Hunter Biden it's just the same Republican playbook yet again....
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Will DOJ send an armed tactical SWAT team to take Hunter into custody at his Malibu beach house that is being paid for by some unknown person? Like they have done to arrest non-violent Trump supporters. A land, sea, and air invasion in case Hunter puts up resistance. That is precedent set for such arrests. They no longer just notify the attorney to have their client report for booking. It is a Waco-like raid. Hopefully, they notify CNN beforehand to film the whole thing for political propaganda. The Dems are trying to send Ukraine Joe a message not to run with all the leaks this last week.
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Hunter is being forced into a courtroom this week after refusing to disclose his finances in his child support case. What a dirty scumbag. He father's a child, denies it until the DNA tests confirm, stalls for as long as possible to pay child support despite being a multimillionaire through influence peddling, and now he is resisting efforts to disclose his finances. He has been allowed not to even attend the court hearings. Old Joe won't even acknowledge his own Granddaughter. What a family. No wonder Hunter is a crack addict.
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Hunter is heading to court today. Hopefully the judge imprisons him for failure to comply with the court order to disclose his finances. Incredibly, he has indicated that he can't afford his child support despite hiring a $1K per hour DC lawyer. What a stand up guy.
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Hunter spent the day in court trying to avoid paying child support to his four-year old daughter who he has disowned. Disgraceful. He shows up in a fleet of cars and security to avoid paying for his own daughter. Meanwhile Grandpa Joe had stockings last x-mas for all his Grandkids and even his dog but not for this little girl who is his granddaughter. She apparently doesn't count. What dirtbags. It is like something from a Dickens novel.
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Hunter spent the day in court trying to avoid paying child support to his four-year old daughter who he has disowned. Disgraceful. He shows up in a fleet of cars and security to avoid paying for his own daughter. Meanwhile Grandpa Joe had stockings last x-mas for all his Grandkids and even his dog but not for this little girl who is his granddaughter. She apparently doesn't count. What dirtbags. It is like something from a Dickens novel.
He shows up in a fleet of cars and security
As the President's son he automatically gets protection. To hold that against him shows just how dishonest you are.
to avoid paying for his own daughter.
More of your dishonesty. Hunter Biden has paid the mother $750.000 already. That's hardly avoiding to pay!
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He shows up in a fleet of cars and security
As the President's son he automatically gets protection. To hold that against him shows just how dishonest you are.
to avoid paying for his own daughter.
More of your dishonesty. Hunter Biden has paid the mother $750.000 already. That's hardly avoiding to pay!
LOL. Who is paying for his army of high-priced DC attorneys, Malibu home. $500K finger paintings etc. But Hunter suddenly can't afford to pay the court ordered child support? Why doesn't he ask China or Ukraine to pay it for him like everything else? You should be ashamed. Hunter is a dirty scumbag. If Ukraine Joe were any type of decent person, he would intercede and acknowledge his granddaughter. The "big guy" is just interested in the checks laundered through Hunter's fake businesses.
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I wonder how Hunter is enjoying his stay in Arkansas. Missing the Malibu house? He has to be in court again this week. I'm sure he will miraculously come up with the money for his child support before he has to reveal the source of his finances (i.e. China, Ukraine, and graft). Maybe sell a few more of those kindergarten quality finger paintings for $500K to unknow art lovers! He would prefer to pay rather than go to jail. What a disgrace.
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Sounds like the indictments are finally coming in the next couple of weeks. I'm sure the corrupt DOJ will cut a deal to avoid any jail time for Hunter, though. And a new whistleblower is claiming the FBI has a document linking Old Joe to bribery. Those whistleblowers were sacred according to the Dems when Trump was President. The Deep State is turning on Old Joe. They have to bring him down before he can lose the 2024 election.
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What an absolutely disastrous week for Biden, Inc. We learned that as many as a dozen Biden family members are on the take from foreign sources. Hunter disgraced himself even further trying to avoid paying child support to the four-year old that he has abandoned. A whistleblower from the IRS confirmed the obvious. That Hunter was being given preferential treatment by the investigators. Not to be outdone, a whistleblower indicated that the FBI has documents that Old Joe himself was on the take as VP. And guess where the money was coming from! Ukraine. LOL I guess that explains why Ukraine Joe flew there on his last days as VP. And why he has been all in on the war. A scandal that will make Watergate seem like child's play if it turns out that the US involvement in Ukraine is tied to Old Joe's corruption. Billions spent, and hundreds of thousands dead due to his graft. And indictments are expected in the coming day for Hunter. Most likely the corrupt DOJ allows him to avoid jail time, though. They won't stage a predawn raid of his Malibu mansion with an armed tactical team. The precedent set for other similar non-violent suspects if they are Trump supporters. I'm sure CNN won't be given a heads up to film the whole thing for political propaganda.
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In a rare and candid email exchange between two former CIA bosses, Michael Morell told John Brennan in October 2020 that he was organizing a letter of 51 intel experts claiming the emergence of the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian influence operation because he wanted to give Joe Biden's campaign a "talking point to push back on" Donald Trump during the last presidential debate of the 2020 election, according to documents obtained by Just the News.
https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/ex-cia-boss-wrote-colleague-hunter-biden-laptop-letter-talking
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https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/ex-cia-boss-wrote-colleague-hunter-biden-laptop-letter-talking
This was clearly election collusion to influence the outcome. The FBI and social media were also complicit in the cover up. When Trump tried to raise the laptop in the debates, Chris Wallace shut him down claiming it was a debunked conspiracy theory and Old Joe cited the fake letter. So much irony given four years of the fake claims of Russian collusion. The Russian government had nothing on American collusion in our election. And, of course, not a single one of these so-called intelligence experts looked at any actual evidence regarding the laptop. The letter was a purely political initiative. No one has or ever will be punished. The ends always justify the means for the anti-Trumpers.
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Hunter is apparently going to solicit donations for his legal defense. Do the Biden's have no shame? Hunter is living in a Malibu beach home. He made millions off corruption and bribes. He has sold childish artwork for millions to unknown buyers who are no doubt political cronies seeking influence. But he needs our help in avoiding his obligations to his 4-year-old daughter. What a scumbag.
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Indictments may come this week. I'm guessing they give Hunter a slap on the wrist. He doesn't go to jail but criminal convictions including potential felonies. If Old Joe doesn't drop out of the race, the Deep State may turn up the heat on the Biden, Inc. There are up to a dozen Biden family facing criminal charges. The Deep State will not allow Ukraine Joe to blow this election and allow Trump to win again. The recent poll numbers are devastating. If the corrupt political establishment wants to retain power, they will have to figure out how to get Joe to step aside very soon. One day he will suddenly announce that he wants to spend more time with his family etc.
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The republicans are getting ready to reveal the full extent of the corruption of Biden, Inc. Hunter is just the fall guy. Ukraine Joe is in this up to his nose. You do have to wonder how long it takes the Biden campaign to see the light and find an exit strategy that allows Old Joe to save face when he drops out. They will conjure up some health reason that he can't run in 2024. Joe will read it from the teleprompter and disappear from history. Not even a footnote. A dumber and senile version of Jimmy Carter.
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The republicans are getting ready to reveal the full extent of the corruption of Biden, Inc. Hunter is just the fall guy. Ukraine Joe is in this up to his nose. You do have to wonder how long it takes the Biden campaign to see the light and find an exit strategy that allows Old Joe to save face when he drops out. They will conjure up some health reason that he can't run in 2024. Joe will read it from the teleprompter and disappear from history. Not even a footnote. A dumber and senile version of Jimmy Carter.
The republicans are getting ready to reveal the full extent of the corruption of Biden, Inc.
Good, so we are finally going to get to see this so-called actual evidence and all those alleged whistleblowers they claim they have. That should be good.... :D
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The DOJ has acted with lightning speed to charge a sitting Congressman, but Hunter's case has now dragged on for six years. Hunter has written books and done interviews confessing to numerous felonies. The FBI has had his laptop for years with evidence of felonies. Banks and financial institutes have documentation of hundreds of suspect transactions. But nothing to see. And leftist wonder why others doubt the legal system. Democracy only works if you have a fair press, free speech, and equal justice. It breaks down when those processes are corrupted for political purposes as in Russia.
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Things are looking worse and worse for Dirty Hunter. He took a private jet to a court hearing to argue for a reduction in support for the four-year old girl that he abandoned. What a scumbag.
Newsweek:
On Saturday, the New York Post published a report claiming to have viewed flight records for a private jet that the president's son allegedly used to travel to Arkansas for a court date in late April. The $6 million jet is reportedly owned by Biden's close friend and legal adviser, Kevin Morris.
Despite arguing in court that he should be allowed to pay less in child support to Roberts, which the newspaper characterized as him having "cried poverty," the records indicate that the flight cost somewhere in the range of $55,000 and $117,000.
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Things are looking worse and worse for Dirty Hunter. He took a private jet to a court hearing to argue for a reduction in support for the four-year old girl that he abandoned. What a scumbag.
Newsweek:
On Saturday, the New York Post published a report claiming to have viewed flight records for a private jet that the president's son allegedly used to travel to Arkansas for a court date in late April. The $6 million jet is reportedly owned by Biden's close friend and legal adviser, Kevin Morris.
Despite arguing in court that he should be allowed to pay less in child support to Roberts, which the newspaper characterized as him having "cried poverty," the records indicate that the flight cost somewhere in the range of $55,000 and $117,000.
Wow, he's doing what wealthy Americans do every day...... LOCK HIM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Wow, he's doing what wealthy Americans do every day...... LOCK HIM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
LOL. This is a civil proceeding. Regardless, if Dirty Hunter is 'wealthy" then let him pay his court ordered child support. You don't see the irony of someone flying on a private jet to argue that Dirty Hunter can't afford to support his child? I thought leftists supported the wealthy paying their "fair share"? Don't leftist also believe that climate change necessitates radical changes in the use of fossil fuels? Not sure using a private jet reflects that concern.
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LOL. This is a civil proceeding. Regardless, if Dirty Hunter is 'wealthy" then let him pay his court ordered child support. You don't see the irony of someone flying on a private jet to argue that Dirty Hunter can't afford to support his child? I thought leftists supported the wealthy paying their "fair share"? Don't leftist also believe that climate change necessitates radical changes in the use of fossil fuels? Not sure using a private jet reflects that concern.
This is a civil proceeding.
Makes no difference
Regardless, if Dirty Hunter is 'wealthy" then let him pay his court ordered child support.
Do you really think he's the only wealthy man in America who is trying to reduce child support?
You don't see the irony of someone flying on a private jet to argue that Dirty Hunter can't afford to support his child?
He isn't arguing that he can't afford to support his child. That's a complete fabrication on your part.
Don't leftist also believe that climate change necessitates radical changes in the use of fossil fuels? Not sure using a private jet reflects that concern.
Tell it to Trump.... he flew on his own jet to New York to get arrested. The guy cheats on his taxes, doesn't pay his suppliers and lawyers and makes false claims to the IRS and banks.
Now, there's a scumbag, if ever there was one.
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This is a civil proceeding.
Makes no difference
Regardless, if Dirty Hunter is 'wealthy" then let him pay his court ordered child support.
Do you really think he's the only wealthy man in America who is trying to reduce child support?
You don't see the irony of someone flying on a private jet to argue that Dirty Hunter can't afford to support his child?
He isn't arguing that he can't afford to support his child. That's a complete fabrication on your part.
Don't leftist also believe that climate change necessitates radical changes in the use of fossil fuels? Not sure using a private jet reflects that concern.
Tell it to Trump.... he flew on his own jet to New York to get arrested. The guy cheats on his taxes, doesn't pay his suppliers and lawyers and makes false claims to the IRS and banks.
Now, there's a scumbag, if ever there was one.
It makes a difference because you claimed I wanted Hunter "locked up." Dirty Hunter will only get locked up in a civil proceeding if he fails to follow the court order and disclose his finances. If Dirty Hunter suddenly can't pay his child support, why not just provide the financial disclosures to confirm? It is straightforward but he refuses to do so. Wonder why? Trump is not the hypocrite. He has had not advocated abandoning fossil fuels. That is Old Joe. But his son is flying around on a private jet to try to avoid his child support. Can you understand the distinction between someone telling others that they have to change their lives due to climate change and flying around themselves on a private jet, and Trump who advocates for fossil fuels? Here is a hint. Trump is not the hypocrite.
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It makes a difference because you claimed I wanted Hunter "locked up." Dirty Hunter will only get locked up in a civil proceeding if he fails to follow the court order and disclose his finances. If Dirty Hunter suddenly can't pay his child support, why not just provide the financial disclosures to confirm? It is straightforward but he refuses to do so. Wonder why? Trump is not the hypocrite. He has had not advocated abandoning fossil fuels. That is Old Joe. But his son is flying around on a private jet to try to avoid his child support. Can you understand the distinction between someone telling others that they have to change their lives due to climate change and flying around themselves on a private jet, and Trump who advocates for fossil fuels? Here is a hint. Trump is not the hypocrite.
It makes a difference because you claimed I wanted Hunter "locked up."
Of course you want him locked up.... just like Hillary Clinton before him.... :D
Dirty Hunter will only get locked up in a civil proceeding if he fails to follow the court order and disclose his finances.
Yeah, so what? Did you, rather foolishly, think I did not know that?
If Dirty Hunter suddenly can't pay his child support, why not just provide the financial disclosures to confirm?
Isn't that exactly what he is doing in court? And who said he can't pay his child support? He is paying already, far more than any other average dad who has a kid somewhere. As I understand it, he just wants to amount he pays reduced because the mother is not spending it on the kid.
Can you understand the distinction between someone telling others that they have to change their lives due to climate change and flying around themselves on a private jet, and Trump who advocates for fossil fuels?
Can you understand that a father is not responsible or liable for what his son does after the latter reaches majority. Joe Biden is right to argue for measures against climate change regardless of what his son does.
Here is a hint. Trump is not the hypocrite.
Keep telling that to yourself.... who knows, maybe one day you will believe it.
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It's increasingly difficult to keep track of all the evidence that the FBI is suppressing. The highlights are Dirty Hunter's laptop which they have had for almost a decade. Are they still investigating? If so, why is this matter taking longer to resolve than the Lindbergh kidnapping? Next, the whistleblower document that allegedly shows Old Joe's pay for play corruption. This document is not even classified but the FBI has thus far refused to provide it to Congress pursuant to a subpoena. Does the FBI have the unilateral ability to not disclose material to Congress in response to a subpoena? It is unreal. And whistleblowers at the FBI and IRS have been subject to retaliation in violation of the law. Even fired from their jobs. And don't forget the Nashville shooter's leftist manifesto which - for some inexplicable reason - is in the possession of the FBI. There is no federal crime. The shooter was killed at the scene. The document is not the subject of any ongoing investigation. Even the school that was victimized is suing to have it disclosed. But nothing. Sense any pattern here? All of this suppression is designed to protect Old Joe and his family. They give it the slow role until after the election and then on Friday evening say that mistakes were made and they have made "policy" changes to avoid them in the future. Oops. Too late to hold anyone accountable.
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So the Hunter laptop pictures are being made available. What a proud Dad Old Joe must be. It is unreal that the FBI has suppressed this story for a decade. Sickening. Nude photos and videos of Hunter with prostitutes and even his own sister-in-law. Rampant drug use. The mainstream media of course does not report it. Nothing to see there. Just the son of the president who spends most of his time in a Malibu beach house being paid for by some unknown person and who received millions from China, Russia, and Ukraine engaging in all manner of criminal conduct. Imagine if this involved the Trump family. There would be immediate land, sea, and air tactical raids to imprison them.
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Will the FBI ever address this case? If Dirty Hunter has not committed any crime, then how about the FBI say that and put it to rest? That would be fair to everyone instead of letting this hang out there. If the FBI and DOJ want the public to have confidence in the justice system, then how about they make a decision to either prosecute Dirty Hunter or not? Leaving this in limbo while throwing the book at Trump creates a perception of a double standard of justice. Garland and company tell us that isn't the case. So make a decision. They have had this under investigation for over five years. Why does it take so long when they can charge Trump in light speed? Even Dirty Hunter is entitled to an end to this process if he is innocent. What it looks like now is that the FBI knows Dirty Hunter and likely other members of Biden, Inc. are guilty of crimes and they are giving this the slow roll for political purposes. If that is not the case, make a decision BEFORE the 2024 election and be done with it so that the public has all the facts. If the Bidens have done nothing wrong, they deserve to be cleared. If they are a corrupt crime syndicate, the American public deserves to know that.
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Will the FBI ever address this case? If Dirty Hunter has not committed any crime, then how about the FBI say that and put it to rest? That would be fair to everyone instead of letting this hang out there. If the FBI and DOJ want the public to have confidence in the justice system, then how about they make a decision to either prosecute Dirty Hunter or not? Leaving this in limbo while throwing the book at Trump creates a perception of a double standard of justice. Garland and company tell us that isn't the case. So make a decision. They have had this under investigation for over five years. Why does it take so long when they can charge Trump in light speed? Even Dirty Hunter is entitled to an end to this process if he is innocent. What it looks like now is that the FBI knows Dirty Hunter and likely other members of Biden, Inc. are guilty of crimes and they are giving this the slow roll for political purposes. If that is not the case, make a decision BEFORE the 2024 election and be done with it so that the public has all the facts. If the Bidens have done nothing wrong, they deserve to be cleared. If they are a corrupt crime syndicate, the American public deserves to know that.
Why should the FBI address a debunked conspiracy theory based on Russian disinformation?
Trump's own Attorney General Bill Barr said there was nothing to it. He knows it's a joke. He refused to appoint a special counsel.
Republicans already investigated this conspiracy theory in 2020 and found NOTHING.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump has been indicted by the DOJ for espionage and will be arrested tomorrow.
Barr Says No Need For Special Counsel For Hunter Biden Probe
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/21/948787251/barr-says-no-need-for-special-counsel-for-hunter-biden-probe-election-fraud-clai
GOP report: No wrongdoing in Biden son ties to Ukraine firm
September 23, 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-report-wrongdoing-biden-son-ties-ukraine-firm/story?id=73192146
Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden
The report delivered on Wednesday appeared to be little more than a rehashing of unproven allegations that echoed a Russian disinformation campaign.
Sept. 23, 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html
House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden
After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.
May 10, 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-house-republicans-report.html
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Why should the FBI address a debunked conspiracy theory based on Russian disinformation?
Trump's own Attorney General Bill Barr said there was nothing to it. He knows it's a joke. He refused to appoint a special counsel.
Republicans already investigated this conspiracy theory in 2020 and found NOTHING.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump has been indicted by the DOJ for espionage and will be arrested tomorrow.
Barr Says No Need For Special Counsel For Hunter Biden Probe
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/21/948787251/barr-says-no-need-for-special-counsel-for-hunter-biden-probe-election-fraud-clai
GOP report: No wrongdoing in Biden son ties to Ukraine firm
September 23, 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-report-wrongdoing-biden-son-ties-ukraine-firm/story?id=73192146
Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden
The report delivered on Wednesday appeared to be little more than a rehashing of unproven allegations that echoed a Russian disinformation campaign.
Sept. 23, 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html
House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden
After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.
May 10, 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-house-republicans-report.html
LOL. Dirty Hunter is pleading guilty. He committed hundreds of felonies. The walls are closing in on Biden, Inc. Daddy Big Guy is waiting on the call from China according to Dirty Hunter.
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“I am sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled,” Hunter Biden wrote Zhao, the director of Harvest Fund Management, according to Shapley.
“Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight,” the now-53-year-old went on. “And, Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.”
Evidence of corruption and potentially treason taken directly from Dirty Hunter's email.
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Hunter = GUILTY of tax and gun crimes. The only question now is whether the judge is gullible enough to accept his plea deal instead of holding him fully accountable for the hundreds of felonies and potentially treason committed by Dirty Hunter and the Big Guy. They have Hunter's own words now to confirm that he sold influence to China with the full backing of his father.
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Hunter = GUILTY of tax and gun crimes. The only question now is whether the judge is gullible enough to accept his plea deal instead of holding him fully accountable for the hundreds of felonies and potentially treason committed by Dirty Hunter and the Big Guy. They have Hunter's own words now to confirm that he sold influence to China with the full backing of his father.
:D :D
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:D :D
What happened to claiming the tax and gun charges were a "conspiracy theory"? HA HA HA.
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Even the leftist rag Wash Post has confirmed that there is evidence to charge Hunter for tax and gun charges.
"Federal agents believe there is enough evidence to criminally charge Hunter Biden with tax crimes and with lying about his drug use when he bought a handgun in 2018, the Washington Post and CBS News have reported."
Perhaps you shouldn't believe everything that's written in a newspaper.
Who cares what Federal agents believe, when no charges have been filed?
Hunter has now pled guilty to the tax and gun crimes. That's "guilty" as in admitting that he committed these specific crimes. Let me guess. This doesn't really mean he was guilty. Maybe he is under CIA mind control etc. because we can't dismiss every possible counterexplanation with absolute certainty.
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How arrogant and stupid that Dirty Hunter attended a state dinner on the day that he pled guilty for federal tax and gun charges. Guess who else was in attendance. The corrupt AG Merrick Garland who gave him a pass on his hundreds of felonies and obstructed the investigation. There is no shame in the clown show.
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The corrupt DOJ is leaking evidence in the case against Trump to the press. It's amazing how there is a complete double standard of justice. Where is the manifesto of the Nashville shooter? That was months ago and not a single leak or release of the document. When it comes to Trump, though, the DOJ illegally leaks information left and right.
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Hunter has now pled guilty to the tax and gun crimes. That's "guilty" as in admitting that he committed these specific crimes. Let me guess. This doesn't really mean he was guilty. Maybe he is under CIA mind control etc. because we can't dismiss every possible counterexplanation with absolute certainty.
This doesn't really mean he was guilty.
Of course it means he's guilty of paying his taxes too late and lying on a gun registration form.
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This doesn't really mean he was guilty.
Of course it means he's guilty of paying his taxes too late and lying on a gun registration form.
He didn't pay his taxes. Some unknown person gave him millions to do so. I'm glad you have moved on, though, from the claim that his crimes are a right-wing conspiracy theory. And today Dirty Hunter has to answer for his defamation of the owner of the computer store. What a week for Dirty Hunter and Old Joe! Hunter is in court more often than Judge Judy. HA HA HA. The IRS situation is a real stunner even by the corrupt standards of our justice system.
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Dirty Hunter is going to the big house. And it is not the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave or in Malibu being paid for by China. Thankfully the judge saw through the deep state deal to fix his numerous felonies. The only question now is if the corrupt DOJ can drag this out beyond the 2024 election in what an obvious attempt at election interference is.
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Dirty Hunter is going to the big house. And it is not the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave or in Malibu being paid for by China. Thankfully the judge saw through the deep state deal to fix his numerous felonies. The only question now is if the corrupt DOJ can drag this out beyond the 2024 election in what an obvious attempt at election interference is.
Pretty amazing how they tried to sneak an immunity deal past the judge. This stuff stinks.
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Pretty amazing how they tried to sneak an immunity deal past the judge. This stuff stinks.
It's been clear for many years now that the Biden's were corrupt, but even I'm amazed at the recent revelations. How long can the corrupt DOJ stonewall the investigation? They are obviously giving it the slow roll as a means not to harm Old Joe's upcoming presidential campaign. But Dirty Hunter is so corrupt and has left a trail of evidence due to his arrogance and stupidity, that they will be hard pressed to avoid sending him to jail. The Big Guy is in this mess as well. He and his brother took millions in influence peddling. Contrast these investigations that have taken years and resulted in no charges despite a trail of evidence left by Dirty Hunter with the charges against Trump. Dozens of indictments on bizarre claims for which there is little or no evidence. And the decision to bring these charges was made in days not years. No unbiased person can look at these two situations and come away with any conclusion other than the legal process is being used to influence our elections. An actual insurrection.
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More stunning revelations today regarding Old Joe's corruption. He not only lied about not participating or discussing Dirty Hunter's shady business dealings but participated numerous times in meetings. His influence peddling and shakedown of numerous foreign business interest is a textbook example of "high crimes and misdemeanors" for a government official. He effectively took bribes. The mainstream liberal media, however, is completely ignoring it.
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After years of investigation, the corrupt DOJ has suddenly decided to appoint a special counsel to investigate Dirty Hunter and the crime family. LOL. What a coincidence this occurred just before Congress was going to start hearings. Now, of course, DOJ will contend that they can't answer questions because the case is under "investigation." They will stonewall until after the election. Instead of the weeks it took to bring dozens of felony charges against Trump, they will draw this out for years despite having the evidence in their possession. The only alternative is that the deep state has finally decided Old Joe is not electable and this is a way to force him out of the race before the election.
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The first indictment is coming this month according to the DOJ. Wow. That only took over five years!
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Dirty Hunter is suing the IRS claiming they violated his "privacy.'" HA HA HA. You can't make that up. Remember when the radical leftists told us how "heroic" the whistleblowers were under Trump? And that they were protected by law from retaliation etc. Sacred ! But now Dirty Hunter is suing them and not a peep from the Dems. Great move! Now they can countersue him and request that he disclose the financial information that confirms his influence peddling.
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Dirty Hunter is suing the IRS claiming they violated his "privacy.'" HA HA HA. You can't make that up. Remember when the radical leftists told us how "heroic" the whistleblowers were under Trump? And that they were protected by law from retaliation etc. Sacred ! But now Dirty Hunter is suing them and not a peep from the Dems. Great move! Now they can countersue him and request that he disclose the financial information that confirms his influence peddling.
Gotta love this... The tables are turning.
We now know from court filings that there never was a laptop to begin with. Only an external hard drive which has been manipulated and contained private material of Hunter Biden that was stolen.
Another example of dirty tricks by the Republicans?
And then there is the former President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, who completely debunked Fox's Brian Kilmeade's attempt to "prove" the conspiracy theory that Joe Biden had a prosecutor fired because he was investigating Burisma.
And then we have Trump and his companies being found guilty of fraud..... what's next?
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Gotta love this... The tables are turning.
We now know from court filings that there never was a laptop to begin with. Only an external hard drive which has been manipulated and contained private material of Hunter Biden that was stolen.
Another example of dirty tricks by the Republicans?
And then there is the former President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, who completely debunked Fox's Brian Kilmeade's attempt to "prove" the conspiracy theory that Joe Biden had a prosecutor fired because he was investigating.
And then we have Trump and his companies being found guilty of fraud..... what's next?
There never was a laptop? The one in the possession of the FBI for nearly a decade is a deep fake. HA HA HA. Wow. Private material? So it did belong to Dirty Hunter? He was so high that he forgot that he left the laptop and signed an agreement that if he didn't return to pick it up that he would forfeit the laptop. The guy who worked at a random computer store was an agent of Putin and the plan was for a Dirty Hunter double to drop off a laptop with fake information and the FBI after nearly a decade can't outsmart these folks and demonstrate that it is a fake.
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There never was a laptop? The one in the possession of the FBI for nearly a decade is a deep fake. HA HA HA. Wow. Private material? So it did belong to Dirty Hunter? He was so high that he forgot that he left the laptop and signed an agreement that if he didn't return to pick it up that he would forfeit the laptop. The guy who worked at a random computer store was an agent of Putin and the plan was for a Dirty Hunter double to drop off a laptop with fake information and the FBI after nearly a decade can't outsmart these folks and demonstrate that it is a fake.
There never was a laptop?
You don't know this?
The one in the possession of the FBI for nearly a decade is a deep fake. HA HA HA.
How do you know that the FBI has a laptop? Did they tell you or was it Giuliani and his clan? Fact is that in his most recent court filing Hunter Biden's lawyers are saying that there never was a laptop. It is one thing to tell a lie in public but an entirely different thing to mislead the court. Giuliani has already been proven to be a liar over and over again, so this laptop thing could easily be just another one of his lies.
So it did belong to Dirty Hunter?
What are you talking about? It appears that there never was a laptop, to begin with, so how could it have belonged to Hunter. Appearently all there ever was, was an external hard drive which was manipulated and did indeed contain some files belonging to Hunter that were obtained in an illegal manner. That doesn't make it Hunter's hard drive!
He was so high that he forgot that he left the laptop and signed an agreement that if he didn't return to pick it up that he would forfeit the laptop.
That's the story put out by the GOP spin masters. It becomes clearer and clearer now that it is a lie.
The guy who worked at a random computer store was an agent of Putin and the plan was for a Dirty Hunter double to drop off a laptop with fake information and the FBI after nearly a decade can't outsmart these folks and demonstrate that it is a fake.
What are you rambling on about? We'll find out soon enough if the computer store guy was working for Giuliani and his gang of thugs....
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There never was a laptop?
You don't know this?
The one in the possession of the FBI for nearly a decade is a deep fake. HA HA HA.
How do you know that the FBI has a laptop? Did they tell you or was it Giuliani and his clan? Fact is that in his most recent court filing Hunter Biden's lawyers are saying that there never was a laptop. It is one thing to tell a lie in public but an entirely different thing to mislead the court. Giuliani has already been proven to be a liar over and over again, so this laptop thing could easily be just another one of his lies.
So it did belong to Dirty Hunter?
What are you talking about? It appears that there never was a laptop, to begin with, so how could it have belonged to Hunter. Appearently all there ever was, was an external hard drive which was manipulated and did indeed contain some files belonging to Hunter that were obtained in an illegal manner. That doesn't make it Hunter's hard drive!
He was so high that he forgot that he left the laptop and signed an agreement that if he didn't return to pick it up that he would forfeit the laptop.
That's the story put out by the GOP spin masters. It becomes clearer and clearer now that it is a lie.
The guy who worked at a random computer store was an agent of Putin and the plan was for a Dirty Hunter double to drop off a laptop with fake information and the FBI after nearly a decade can't outsmart these folks and demonstrate that it is a fake.
What are you rambling on about? We'll find out soon enough if the computer store guy was working for Giuliani and his gang of thugs....
This is tin foil hat stuff. Numerous news outlets have confirmed that the FBI has Dirty Hunter's laptop. The FBI has been asked in numerous hearing about the laptop. They have never once said there is no laptop. I know you take every thread down some bizarre rabbit hole but this is embarrassing.
"A March 30 Washington Post story that details how the newspaper analyzed a copy of the laptop’s hard drive places it in the FBI’s possession.
"The MacBook itself is now in the hands of the FBI, which is investigating whether Hunter Biden properly reported income from business dealings," the story says."
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"Hunter Biden received wires that originated in Beijing for more than $250,000 from Chinese business partners during the summer of 2019 — wires that listed the Delaware home of Joe Biden as the beneficiary address for the funds, Fox News Digital has learned from a congressional committee."
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This is tin foil hat stuff. Numerous news outlets have confirmed that the FBI has Dirty Hunter's laptop. The FBI has been asked in numerous hearing about the laptop. They have never once said there is no laptop. I know you take every thread down some bizarre rabbit hole but this is embarrassing.
"A March 30 Washington Post story that details how the newspaper analyzed a copy of the laptop’s hard drive places it in the FBI’s possession.
"The MacBook itself is now in the hands of the FBI, which is investigating whether Hunter Biden properly reported income from business dealings," the story says."
I think the confusion here may be over an external hard drive that Biden also brought to the store along with the laptop. So we have two items: an external hard drive and a laptop. The computer repair shop owner was asked to try and retrieve documents/files from the laptop.
From a NY Times piece: "Mr. Isaac [the computer repairmen] said the man came to his shop twice but never returned to retrieve the computer or an external hard drive on which its contents had been stored." The FBI later took both the external hard drive and the laptop.
It's not clear to me whether the files in question were on the external hard drive or the laptop drive or both? Seems to me that if he wanted to retrieve them from the external hard drive then why also bring in the laptop? And if he wanted to retrieve them from the laptop hard drive then why bring in the external hard drive? Must have wanted both?
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Nine indictments for Dirty Hunter. Tax charges to add to his pending gun charges. Think the Dems are trying to send Old Joe a message? Time for him to "take some time to spend with his family" instead of running in 2024. He pardons Dirty Hunter on his way out the door.
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According to the indictment between 2016 and 2019 Dirty Hunter spent $188,960 on adult entertainment, including a sex club membership, exotic dancers and strip clubs.
Here is a good one:
"Between 2016 and October 15, 2020, the Defendant spent this money on drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and rental properties, exotic cars, clothing, and other items of a personal nature, in short, everything but his taxes," the indictment read."
Try finding this story on CNN or MSNBC's webpage. It's only the current President's son being indicted for multiple tax and gun crimes. All funded by millions from foreign governments. Nothing to see there. What could be more important than that? Maybe Trump sneezed in court which must mean he must have Parkison's' disease or some other conspiracy theory.
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According to the indictment between 2016 and 2019 Dirty Hunter spent $188,960 on adult entertainment, including a sex club membership, exotic dancers and strip clubs.
Here is a good one:
"Between 2016 and October 15, 2020, the Defendant spent this money on drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and rental properties, exotic cars, clothing, and other items of a personal nature, in short, everything but his taxes," the indictment read."
Try finding this story on CNN or MSNBC's webpage. It's only the current President's son being indicted for multiple tax and gun crimes. All funded by millions from foreign governments. Nothing to see there. What could be more important than that? Maybe Trump sneezed in court which must mean he must have Parkison's' disease or some other conspiracy theory.
According to the indictment between 2016 and 2019 Dirty Hunter spent $188,960 on adult entertainment, including a sex club membership, exotic dancers and strip clubs.
Wow, let's lock him up and throw away the key :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Boy, must you be jealous...
It's only the current President's son being indicted for multiple tax and gun crimes.
Since when is the President responsible for what his son is charged with and which relates to a years that he wasn't even President?
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On the upside, many fine books have been written in prison. Perhaps Dirty Hunter will pen a sequel to "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying." So ironic that Old Joe has prioritized gun laws and hired 90K IRS agents to collect unpaid taxes from millionaires. Remind him of anyone? HA HA HA HA HA. The irony is probably lost on those with advanced dementia, however. And Dirty Hunter is just being sacrificed to buy time for the "Big Guy." He is going to the big house and it's not the one in Malibu being paid for by China or the one at 1600 Penn. Ave. So long Hunter. Don't pick up the soap. Say hello to Avenatti.
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Dirty Hunter added contempt of Congress to his growing list of crimes. Tax evasion, gun charges, and now giving the finger to the US government. Good strategy. Don't the Dems now believe that contempt of Congress is a felony that should be punished with criminal charges? Many excellent books have been written in prison.
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Dirty Hunter added contempt of Congress to his growing list of crimes. Tax evasion, gun charges, and now giving the finger to the US government. Good strategy. Don't the Dems now believe that contempt of Congress is a felony that should be punished with criminal charges? Many excellent books have been written in prison.
The justification for the G.O.P. impeachment vote without justifiable predicate yesterday was to make their future subpoenas enforceable. What does that say about the subpoena of private citizen, Hunter Biden, you are posting about in an attempt to further discredit him?
https://www.nbcnews.com › video › house-votes-to-begin-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden-200165957671 (https://www.nbcnews.com/video/house-votes-to-begin-impeachment-inquiry-into-president-biden-200165957671)
House votes to begin impeachment inquiry into President Biden - NBC News
1 day ago The GOP-controlled House has voted to authorize its impeachment inquiry into an alleged wrongdoing by President Biden. Republicans say the vote was needed to enforce their subpoenas in court. Dec ...
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The justification for the G.O.P. impeachment vote without justifiable predicate yesterday was to make their future subpoenas enforceable. What does that say about the subpoena of private citizen, Hunter Biden, you are posting about in an attempt to further discredit him?
Dirty Hunter should be criminally prosecuted for his failure to appear in response to a subpoena. Don't take my word for what should happen, though.
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The DOJ confirms that they have Hunter's laptop. Only took them four years.
For the first time, the Justice Department has confirmed that they took possession of a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden from a computer shop.
Why it matters: The new filing by special counsel David Weiss, which includes several embarrassing revelations, is the latest example of the increasingly antagonistic relationship between Hunter's team and his father's Justice Department in the months after a proposed plea deal unraveled last summer.
When some of the contents of the laptop's hard drive made it to The New York Post in the fall of 2020, President Biden and his supporters argued that the contents had the makings of a Russian disinformation campaign, and large social media companies suppressed or blocked access to the Post's article about it.
The DOJ filing on Tuesday tracks the story told by Delaware-based John Paul Mac Isaac, who owned a computer repair shop and claimed Hunter Biden left behind a laptop.
Zoom in: In the filing, Weiss wrote that in September 2019 Apple provided digital backups of Hunter's data in response to a search warrant and the laptop was "largely duplicative of information investigators had already obtained from Apple investigators had already."
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter-biden-laptop-justice-department