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Title: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on August 30, 2022, 02:30:12 PM
The chickens are finally coming home to roost.  It has taken a couple of years but now it is widely acknowledged that the laptop is real.  Even by the leftist media that dismissed the story in 2020 as Russian disinformation.  There was never any real doubt about it being genuine.  The absurd conspiracy fantasy that the Russians somehow creating the laptop, leaving it at a random computer store in Delaware using a Hunter double, and then hoping the proprietor would bring it to the attention of the authorities was laughable.  Zuckerberg confirmed this week that the FBI was actively involved in covering up the damaging information by encouraging Facebook to suppress the story.  An astounding interference with free speech and collusion to influence the outcome of an election.  An FBI agent involved in this cover up has resigned in disgrace.  The first of many that will be held accountable once the republicans take over after the midterms.  Hopefully all the fake "national security" experts who signed the fake letter claiming that the laptop was Russian disinformation (based on no actual information whatsoever) will be held accountable by removing their security clearances. Chris Wallace should also be fired.  During the presidential debate he actually refused to allow Trump to raise the laptop issue by claiming it was disinformation.  Working at the Conspiracy News Network (CNN) is no doubt a step down but he lost all credibility.  No one watched his silly streaming show.

Expect Hunter to plead guilty to a minor slap on the wrist crime after the midterms in exchange for a deal that exonerates him of the numerous felonies that he committed with the "Big Guy" with Biden, Inc. to avoid the republicans holding him accountable.  No predawn raid on his Malibu home by the FBI land, air, and sea tactical team. 
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on August 31, 2022, 01:19:40 PM
Things are unravelling fast at the FBI.  Dozens of agents are coming forward as whistleblowers on the FBI's partisan political efforts.  So much so that Garland had to caution them not to speak with member of Congress.  So much for the sanctity of whistleblowers that the leftist media went on and on about when they were desperately trying to impeach Trump.  They apparently don't care about Garland's potentially illegal effort to intimidate whistleblowers when it doesn't suit their ideology.   Once the Republicans sweep the midterm elections, they will start cleaning house.  Look for a lot of resignations come November.   Also a plea deal for Hunter to get Biden, Inc. off the hook before an honest investigation convicts him of numerous felonies.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on August 31, 2022, 05:45:17 PM
All reports are that Wray will be resigning as the director of the FBI in the near future.  Likely just after the midterm elections to avoid responsibility for the political actions of his agency.   
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 01, 2022, 03:32:28 PM
Hunter should be stocking up on reading material for his long prison sentence.  Perhaps "How to Succeed at Business without Really Trying."   I heard it helps if your dad is the "big guy."
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 02, 2022, 02:31:13 PM
Hunter claims that he doesn't know if the laptop belongs to him.  I know he smoked a lot of crack but he dropped it off at the computer store and signed for it.  He clearly knows that it is his.  What a sleazy scumbag.  The FBI should be ashamed to have been complicit in his crimes for political purposes.  Biden, Inc. will eventually get a slap on the wrist before the republicans take over after the midterms to avoid a real investigation.  The whole things stinks of establishment corruption but Old Joe is lecturing law abiding Americans on the "soul of America." 
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Jerry Freeman on September 04, 2022, 05:37:20 PM
Hunter claims that he doesn't know if the laptop belongs to him.  I know he smoked a lot of crack...
Did it not have pictures on it of him doing same? :D
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 04, 2022, 08:05:21 PM
Did it not have pictures on it of him doing same? :D

Among many other things.  What a great parent Old Joe must have been.  Hunter is a crackhead who married his dead brother's wife, and his daughter is a self-described nymphomaniac.  The FBI has pictures and photos of Hunter smoking crack, taking prostitutes across state lines, and engaging in all manner of illegal tax and influence peddling felonies.  They have sat on this information for years while raiding the homes of elderly citizens for non-violent process crimes.  Peter Navarro was put in leg irons like a 19th Century pirate at the airport.  An elderly guy who no criminal history.  But there is equal justice according to Garland.  Just ask him or CNN.  No predawn raid of Hunter's Malibu home being paid for by some unknown person.   Nothing to see there.  Plenty of people have Malibu beach homes paid for by some stranger who expects nothing in return.  Just ask Garland of CNN.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Jerry Freeman on September 05, 2022, 12:03:38 AM
Like father like son.....

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Mk5gm_iENNg

Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 05, 2022, 04:49:11 PM
The fix is in for the Hunter situation.  DOJ will cut a deal just after the election.  They will give him a slap on the wrist for some minor process violation and grant him immunity from the numerous felonies he committed with the "Big Guy" for Biden, Inc.  This will be an attempt to preempt the Republicans from opening a legitimate investigation when they take over after the election.  A corrupt system.  And no one is concerned about the son of the President having his Malibu house paid for by some unknown individual?  Just a normal thing for a stranger to pay for his home.  I'm sure this person expects nothing in return.  No corruption or influence peddling there.  Just like "Party on" Paul Pelosi making those well-timed stock trades that have resulting in himself and Queen Nancy making tens of millions.  What good luck!
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 06, 2022, 06:03:43 PM
As though the DOJ and FBI didn't have enough problems with the illegal raid on Trump, it turns out the agent in charge of the covering up the Biden laptop was an avowed Trump hater on social media.  What a shock.  No wonder he was forced to resign in disgrace, but only after the story became public.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 07, 2022, 02:14:54 PM
Lost in the focus on the numerous felonies committed by Hunter is that the Show Me the Money Joe Biden is in this up to his neck.  The "big guy" was a knowing participant in the influence peddling making millions through Biden, Inc. along with his corrupt brother.  The evidence is stone cold and has been available to the FBI for years.  No predawn raid on anyone, though.  Nothing to see with the Biden's making millions from foreign governments and some unknown person paying even until today for Hunter's Malibu home. 
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 07, 2022, 11:23:03 PM
Hunter woke up this morning and checked if he was in jail yet.  He still can't believe he is living in a Malibu home that someone else is paying for.  It must be a dream. 
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 07, 2022, 11:32:04 PM
Hunter can't decide if he looks better in orange or traditional black and white convict stripes.  Maybe Uncle James will have an opinion when they both to the slammer.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 08, 2022, 02:43:56 PM
Hunter is glad he doesn't live in a Dem controlled city with the out-of-control crime spree.  Thankfully someone has paid for his house in Malibu.  He will be moving to an even bigger house soon paid for by the taxpayers.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 23, 2022, 02:33:50 PM
The House Dems rejected a proposal to open an investigation into Hunter.  What a surprise!  It's all Trump all day.  No solution to inflation, crime, war, or illegal aliens/drugs pouring across the border.  No one is concerned that the CDC dropped the ball and was unprepared for the pandemic leaving one million dead in the US.  The only issue is Trump.  Trump, Trump, and more Trump.  All this effort and they still haven't found anything on him.  In contrast, Hunter confessed to numerous felonies including influence peddling from foreign governments with a cut to the "big guy."  Imagine if any of the effort devoted to Trump had been spent on Biden, Inc.?  But the time is coming.  The midterms are almost here.  Stripes have a thinning effect.  So think positive Hunter.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on September 24, 2022, 02:07:35 PM
Will Old Joe pardon Hunter when he goes to the slammer?  My guess is that the corrupt DOJ cuts a deal to give Hunter a slap on the wrist after the election to avoid the hearings that will come when the Repubs take over.   Uncle James is also part of Biden, Inc.  They can be bunk mates in the big house.  Avenatti can give them legal advice from the next cell.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on October 02, 2022, 01:24:30 PM
Hunter must pinch himself every morning when he wakes up in a Malibu home being paid for by some unknown person.  Nothing to see there.  Just another day in paradise (i.e. Biden, Inc.). 
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on October 03, 2022, 01:34:40 PM
If Hunter still had his laptop, he could do a Google search to see when he is going to jail.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on October 06, 2022, 09:46:53 PM
They are preparing a room for Hunter in the big house.  Will the FBI stage a predawn air, sea, and ground assault on his Malibu home to take him into custody like they have done to nonviolent elderly people like Roger Stone?  LOL.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on November 22, 2022, 03:13:24 PM
This was once deemed "disinformation" and the product of Russian interference.  Any mention was subject to a ban on social media highlighting the incredible bias and attempts by social media to influence the 2020 election.  Chris Wallace actually shutdown President Trump when he tried to raise this issue during the debate.   Ironically, the leftist media did exactly what they were suggesting the Russians were doing during the election. 

Better later than never, though:  "CBS joins New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN in verifying laptop after media dismissed New York Post's reporting."
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Joe Elliott on November 23, 2022, 05:19:05 PM

This was once deemed "disinformation" and the product of Russian interference.  Any mention was subject to a ban on social media highlighting the incredible bias and attempts by social media to influence the 2020 election.  Chris Wallace actually shutdown President Trump when he tried to raise this issue during the debate.   Ironically, the leftist media did exactly what they were suggesting the Russians were doing during the election. 

Better later than never, though:  "CBS joins New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN in verifying laptop after media dismissed New York Post's reporting."

How could the media, or anyone, "verify" the laptop.

Did the laptop go directly from Hunter Biden to a reputable agency like the Washington Post or the FBI? No. It went from Hunter Biden, to someone hostile to him, a laptop repairman, before it, or a copy of the data went on to the Washington post.

Did the people hostile to Hunter Biden have access to experts who could fake data very well? Yes, by simply taking the laptop to any Russian embassy and asking them to examine it. Such a notion would be obvious, because Trump, in a 2016 Presidential debate, called upon the Russians to find/manufacture email evidence against Hillary Clinton.

Quote from Wikipedia on the Hunter Biden laptop controversy:

On October 19, 2020, a group of 51 former senior intelligence officials, who had served in the Trump administration and those of the three previous presidents, released an open letter stating that the release of the alleged emails "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation," adding:

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We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case.

This is a classic case of a piece of 'evidence' having major "Chain of Custody" issues. The CTers cite this a lot. But never with an example of a piece of evidence passing through the hands of a non police or FBI official, with a clear motive to fake the evidence. Merely the suggestion that such and such an officer may have been motivated against Oswald. Never a clear case like that of the laptop repairman being hostile to the Biden's.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on November 23, 2022, 10:19:32 PM
How could the media, or anyone, "verify" the laptop.

Did the laptop go directly from Hunter Biden to a reputable agency like the Washington Post or the FBI? No. It went from Hunter Biden, to someone hostile to him, a laptop repairman, before it, or a copy of the data went on to the Washington post.

Did the people hostile to Hunter Biden have access to experts who could fake data very well? Yes, by simply taking the laptop to any Russian embassy and asking them to examine it. Such a notion would be obvious, because Trump, in a 2016 Presidential debate, called upon the Russians to find/manufacture email evidence against Hillary Clinton.

Quote from Wikipedia on the Hunter Biden laptop controversy:

On October 19, 2020, a group of 51 former senior intelligence officials, who had served in the Trump administration and those of the three previous presidents, released an open letter stating that the release of the alleged emails "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation," adding:

This is a classic case of a piece of 'evidence' having major "Chain of Custody" issues. The CTers cite this a lot. But never with an example of a piece of evidence passing through the hands of a non police or FBI official, with a clear motive to fake the evidence. Merely the suggestion that such and such an officer may have been motivated against Oswald. Never a clear case like that of the laptop repairman being hostile to the Biden's.

They somehow "verified" it was disinformation before the election.   Anyone who suggested otherwise was banned from social media as a conspiracy theorist.  It's a very simple matter to verify it.  The FBI has had it for a couple of years.  You don't think they have that capability?  You don't think Hunter knows?  It's his laptop.  Maybe ask him under oath at the risk of perjury.  You believe the leftist media is framing Biden suddenly?  The "intelligence" officers were all political hacks that had no more information about the laptop than the average person.  It was an attempt to cover up the damage to get Trump out of office at all costs.  It's what the radicals call "collusion" and an "insurrection" to undermine democracy.  You should be outraged regardless of political bias.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Joe Elliott on November 25, 2022, 02:19:35 PM

They somehow "verified" it was disinformation before the election.   Anyone who suggested otherwise was banned from social media as a conspiracy theorist.  It's a very simple matter to verify it.  The FBI has had it for a couple of years. You don't think they have that capability?  You don't think Hunter knows?  It's his laptop.  Maybe ask him under oath at the risk of perjury.  You believe the leftist media is framing Biden suddenly?  The "intelligence" officers were all political hacks that had no more information about the laptop than the average person.  It was an attempt to cover up the damage to get Trump out of office at all costs.  It's what the radicals call "collusion" and an "insurrection" to undermine democracy.  You should be outraged regardless of political bias.

The FBI has had the laptop for a couple of years.

Did someone else other than Hunter Biden have the laptop before the FBI? Yes.
Was that person hostile to the Biden's? Yes.
Did that hostile person have access to the sort of expertise to plant convincing evidence against Hunter Biden? Yes.
Who could these experts be? The Russians.

Which of these questions have I given a false answer to?

Whether this laptop ever belong to Hunter Biden is immaterial. It would have to pass directly from Hunter Biden to the FBI to be considered valid evidence. Which it did not.

The people who want to take down the reputation of the Biden's have to have some evidence other than this laptop. And if they do, why do the continue to focus on this laptop which is worthless in proving anything.
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on November 25, 2022, 02:53:08 PM
The FBI has had the laptop for a couple of years.

Did someone else other than Hunter Biden have the laptop before the FBI? Yes.
Was that person hostile to the Biden's? Yes.
Did that hostile person have access to the sort of expertise to plant convincing evidence against Hunter Biden? Yes.
Who could these experts be? The Russians.

Which of these questions have I given a false answer to?

Whether this laptop ever belong to Hunter Biden is immaterial. It would have to pass directly from Hunter Biden to the FBI to be considered valid evidence. Which it did not.

The people who want to take down the reputation of the Biden's have to have some evidence other than this laptop. And if they do, why do the continue to focus on this laptop which is worthless in proving anything.

Again, even the radical leftist media sources have confirmed that this was Hunter's laptop.  To my knowledge, no one including even Hunter Biden himself denies this was his laptop and that the contents are genuine.  The emails can be checked with the recipients and servers.  This is not rocket science.


"CBS joins New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN in verifying laptop after media dismissed New York Post's reporting."
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Joe Elliott on November 26, 2022, 12:06:01 AM

Again, even the radical leftist media sources have confirmed that this was Hunter's laptop.  To my knowledge, no one including even Hunter Biden himself denies this was his laptop and that the contents are genuine.  The emails can be checked with the recipients and servers.  This is not rocket science.


"CBS joins New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN in verifying laptop after media dismissed New York Post's reporting."

Yes. It was his laptop. But the points you keep dodging are:

1. Did someone else modify the contents of his laptop?
2. If not, how could we possibly know this?
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Richard Smith on November 26, 2022, 01:45:08 PM
Yes. It was his laptop. But the points you keep dodging are:

1. Did someone else modify the contents of his laptop?
2. If not, how could we possibly know this?

No one modified the contents.  Do you think the videos of Hunter with the prostitutes and smoking crack are a Hunter "double"?  Do you think the emails that he sent and received can't be tracked or checked against the recipients and servers?  Do you think it is not possible for the FBI and US intelligence agencies to verify the contents of a laptop or determine if they have been fabricated?  Do you think the leftists who have covered this story up prior to the election would have hesitated for one second to release any evidence indicating that the contents of this laptop were faked by someone?  The leftist media like the NY Times have verified the contents of the laptop.  Numerous other leftist media sources have done the same.  Not a single one has suggested there is an iota of evidence to indicate that anyone altered the contents of the laptop.  It is really far out, tin foil hat nonsense at this point to still be peddling that baseless conspiracy theory. 
Title: Re: Hunter Biden laptop
Post by: Joe Elliott on November 29, 2022, 04:42:39 AM

No one modified the contents.  Do you think the videos of Hunter with the prostitutes and smoking crack are a Hunter "double"?  Do you think the emails that he sent and received can't be tracked or checked against the recipients and servers?  Do you think it is not possible for the FBI and US intelligence agencies to verify the contents of a laptop or determine if they have been fabricated?  Do you think the leftists who have covered this story up prior to the election would have hesitated for one second to release any evidence indicating that the contents of this laptop were faked by someone?  The leftist media like the NY Times have verified the contents of the laptop.  Numerous other leftist media sources have done the same.  Not a single one has suggested there is an iota of evidence to indicate that anyone altered the contents of the laptop.  It is really far out, tin foil hat nonsense at this point to still be peddling that baseless conspiracy theory.

Here is what a Wikipedia article had to say:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy#Aftermath_and_veracity_concerns

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Forensic analysis
In March 2022, The Washington Post published the findings of two forensic information analysts it had retained to examine 217 gigabytes of data provided to the paper on a hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey, who represented that its contents came from the laptop. One of the analysts characterized the data as a "disaster" from a forensics standpoint. The analysts found that people other than Hunter Biden had repeatedly accessed and copied data for nearly three years; they also found evidence that people other than Biden had accessed and written files to the drive, both before and after the New York Post story.[6] In September 2020, someone created six new folders on the drive, including with the names "Biden Burisma," "Big Guy File," "Salacious Pics Package" and "Hunter. Burisma Documents." One of the analysts found evidence someone may have accessed the drive contents from a West Coast location days after The New York Post published their stories about the laptop.[6]

Using cryptographic signatures to analyze the roughly 129,000 emails on the drive, one analysis was able to verify that 1,828 of the emails came from the indicated email accounts of origin, suggesting they were authentic and had not been tampered with; the other analysis was able to verify nearly 22,000 emails using similar methods, after overcoming technical issues the first analysis could not resolve. The analysts said emails from Burisma, where Pozharskyi was an advisor, were likely authentic, but cautioned that if Burisma had been hacked, it would be possible for hackers to use stolen cryptographic signatures to forge emails that would pass as authentic. The New York Times reported in January 2020 that Russian military intelligence had hacked Burisma beginning in November 2019; a co-founder of the firm that discovered the hacking said Russians were stealing email credentials. Both analysts acknowledged that cryptographic signatures are not a perfect way to authenticate emails, as some email services do not implement the technology as rigorously as others. About 16,000 of the 22,000 emails carrying cryptographic signatures came via Google, which rigorously implements the technology. The analysts noted that cryptographic signatures can only verify that an email originated from a certain email account, but not who controlled that account; there are other means for hackers to commandeer email accounts of others. According to the Washington Post, "Some other emails on the drive that have been the foundation for previous news reports could not be verified because the messages lacked verifiable cryptographic signatures."[6]

Among the emails that The Washington Post was able to authenticate was the Pozharskyi email that formed the basis of the New York Post's original article. An email referencing "10 held by H for the big guy?," an apparent reference to a rejected proposal to give Joe Biden a 10% share of a Chinese deal his son was negotiating, was not authenticated, though a recipient of the email publicly vouched for its authenticity.[6]

One of the analysts found that timestamps on documents and in operating system indexes matched, though he noted hackers could forge timestamps in undetectable ways. The analysts also noted that the drive had been handled in such a way that logs and other files used by forensic analysts to examine system activity had been repeatedly deleted. Neither analyst found evidence emails or other files had been manipulated by hackers, nor could they rule out that possibility.[6][56]

An analysis by Distributed Denial of Secrets of 128,755 emails allegedly copied from the laptop and circulated by allies and former staff of President Donald Trump showed "signs of tampering" including 145 modification dates and emails created more than a year after Hunter Biden had the laptop.[57][58] Matt Tait, a cybersecurity expert and former information security specialist for the U.K.'s Government Communications Headquarters, reviewed the analysis and said "it is clear the cache isn't in its original form."[59]

In November 2022, CBS News published the results of a forensic analysis they commissioned of a copy of the laptop data Mac Isaac initially handed to federal investigators in 2019. The analysis, conducted by Computer Forensics Services, found "no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with", and found no new files created on the laptop after April 2019, when Mac Isaac received the laptop. The chief technology officer of Computer Forensics Services added: "I have no doubt in my mind that this data was created by Hunter Biden, and that it came from a computer under Mr. Biden's control".[60]

Different experts have different opinions on whether the laptop was modified or not after Hunter turned it into the repair shop. Using common sense, I don't think it was Hunter Biden who created files in folders labeled "Biden Burisma," "Big Guy File," "Salacious Pics Package" and "Hunter. Burisma Documents". Clearly, someone other than Hunter Biden modified the contents of that laptop. And computer experts could modify the laptop and other servers to make it appear it contained valid emails. I doubt this would be beyond Russian capabilities.