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Title: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Robin Unger on July 20, 2022, 05:38:42 PM
Credit: 6th Floor Museum

CLASSIFICATIONS Films
PHOTOGRAPHER F.M. Bell
DATE11/22/1963
TYPE OF OBJECT Film, 8mm
Mark Bell Collection/The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza

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Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Robin Unger on July 20, 2022, 07:08:48 PM
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Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Robin Unger on July 20, 2022, 07:14:43 PM
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Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: James Hackerott on July 20, 2022, 11:52:07 PM
Bell Film ( MP4 ) video

Credit: 6th Floor Museum

 To see the video in it's Full Size 1920 x 1080  720p  click on "Full Screen"


https://robinungers.blogspot.com/2022/07/bell-film_20.html?fbclid=IwAR2oXJQrVYHmcLWbbzy_t9y7VzGEYL-mdK2-6I5BSA0DQhrOsBqI0-yrwP4 (https://robinungers.blogspot.com/2022/07/bell-film_20.html?fbclid=IwAR2oXJQrVYHmcLWbbzy_t9y7VzGEYL-mdK2-6I5BSA0DQhrOsBqI0-yrwP4)


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Nicely done Robin!
I, for the first time, see Zapruder stop, turn and appear to begin walking back to the shelter.
Thanks
Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Robin Unger on July 21, 2022, 12:22:32 AM


Bell Film

This is how a Bell "Full Frame" actually looks.


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Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: James Hackerott on July 21, 2022, 02:49:32 AM
Good point about the museum's (Reading Room) copy. I had a chance to view it briefly while there for the Darnell film, and noticed that the image did not fill the sprocket area as much as I expected.

Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Robin Unger on July 21, 2022, 03:03:41 AM
Nicely done Robin!
I, for the first time, see Zapruder stop, turn and appear to begin walking back to the shelter.
Thanks


Thanks James

Yes i agree about seeing Zapruder stop and then turning to his left and then walking towards Sitzman


Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Robert Carnal on July 23, 2022, 05:21:53 AM
Just a valueless observation... it appears that Bill Greer is signalling his intention to take a right turn after the limousine passes under the triple underpass.
Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Marjan Rynkiewicz on July 23, 2022, 10:42:31 PM
Just a valueless observation... it appears that Bill Greer is signalling his intention to take a right turn after the limousine passes under the triple underpass.
The jfk limo is changing lanes -- a turn signal is mandatory -- & the jfk limo is surrounded by cops.
Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Marjan Rynkiewicz on January 08, 2023, 06:29:14 AM
Here are 2 gifs of the Bell footage that i made this week.
Robin Unger's gif(s) (see OP) might have better quality frames than my gifs.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xNr8BB5/bell-9jan2023-ezgif.gif)
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Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Robin Unger on March 09, 2023, 03:04:36 PM
Yes McIntyre standing on the left running board is on high alert as he looks around watching the people on the grassy infield panic and start running.



Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Marjan Rynkiewicz on March 09, 2023, 09:24:19 PM
Yes McIntyre standing on the left running board is on high alert as he looks around watching the people on the grassy infield panic and start running.
The lone guy running is running koz Hickey some seconds earlier had fired an auto burst of at least 4 shots of which at least 2 ricocheted throo the area at the end of the grass where the lone runner was standing.
The lone runner is in fact near another guy who is just out of frame on left (also running away from the ricochet area).
The other couple (the guy & his gal) are starting to run koz they have seen that Hickey is toting the AR15 -- & they had heard the frightening auto burst (plus echoes) -- & while running they have seen that Hickey is now looking back directly at them (or at least the guy can see Hickey looking back)(i dont think that she did).
Hickey was merely looking back checking to see whether, if in addition to accidentally blowing JFK's head off, he has caused any other damage.
McIntyre is unlikely to be on high alert -- we can see in Bell that McIntyre reaches with his left hand to his mouth -- he grabs some chewing gum -- & throws it away to his left -- he could have of course merely spat it out.
Earlier, McIntyre was looking back/across at Hickey when Hickey fired his AR15 (at say Z300 to Z312) -- after which McIntyre got whiplash when he looked forward to see what damage Hickey had dunn (all of which can be seen in the Bronson footage).

Re Hickey toting his AR15 -- we can see in my gif of Bell that Hickey is toting his AR15 from the first frame of my gif -- he picked the AR15 up from the floor soon after Z219 (ie soon after Oswald had fired his shot-2)(ie his final shot)(his shot-1 had been at Z113).
Title: Re: Bell Gifs Part 1
Post by: Steve Barber on April 03, 2023, 10:25:30 PM
Just a valueless observation... it appears that Bill Greer is signalling his intention to take a right turn after the limousine passes under the triple underpass.

 Robert, 
 
  Your observation is more valuable than you think!  There is a debate on whether or not the limousine "stopped" on the entrance ramp to Stemmons Freeway.  Gary Mack started the rumor back in the 80's that Greer didn't know which way to go, because according to Mack, a DPD officer (I believe it was E.V. Brown, on top of the T&P railroad overpass) whom said he saw the limousine "stop".  I never saw Greer pointing to the right after passing through the triple underpass in the Bell film before, so thanks a million or pointing this out.