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Title: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on May 02, 2022, 03:37:09 AM
This is the only copy of the Moorman photo I’ve seen like this one... from a Texas A&M newsletter...
Seems to have a few markings of a gunman at the fence... with hat and scope...
(the 4th image shows some gif enhancements...)


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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on May 02, 2022, 03:38:26 AM
Here is the link to the Texas A&M Today newsletter...

https://today.tamu.edu/2017/12/07/two-shooters-texas-am-statistician-says-better-forensic-science-can-reveal-more-about-the-jfk-assassination/ (https://today.tamu.edu/2017/12/07/two-shooters-texas-am-statistician-says-better-forensic-science-can-reveal-more-about-the-jfk-assassination/)

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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Michael Welch on May 02, 2022, 08:32:13 PM
Hi Jake, There is a really great researcher named Rick[his last name escapes me at the moment; I am getting old], who used to call this figure Hatman back in 2013. I do not think Rick had pictures as good as you have posted though. Keep up your awesome work! I think that Hatman could have done the head shot too! Sincerely yours, Michael
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jerry Organ on May 18, 2022, 10:24:24 PM
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1g01HjLnPAoZcM0NPrRdFcJnOgzIju4W3)
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1j4PIpNCtZbphz0kmWxmCckNi3vDlG5He)
The "head" shapes along the top of the fence were just vertical trunks of bushes. The poor background resolution of the Moorman photo made the vertical morph together to form suggestive shapes.

... but nice try.  ::)
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Sean Kneringer on May 19, 2022, 01:25:41 AM
not nearly enough foliage coverage to fire a weapon unnoticed

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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on May 19, 2022, 05:06:29 AM
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1g01HjLnPAoZcM0NPrRdFcJnOgzIju4W3)
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1j4PIpNCtZbphz0kmWxmCckNi3vDlG5He)
The "head" shapes along the top of the fence were just vertical trunks of bushes. The poor background resolution of the Moorman photo made the vertical morph together to form suggestive shapes.

... but nice try.  ::)




Zapruder and Moorman agree... not foliage... not trunks of bushes...

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Max Holland - The Zapruder Film Reconsidered 7:35


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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on May 19, 2022, 07:58:11 PM
There were certainly shadows around... and very few people, likely by plan...
But mostly, “out in the open” means a lot less if a gunman has on a police uniform and is displaying a badge and others all around are “in on the plot"...



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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jerry Organ on May 20, 2022, 04:26:40 PM
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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on May 21, 2022, 06:12:07 PM
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This gif below is from the Mark Bell Film shown in The Lost Bullet...
The narrator in this National Geographic documentary asks:
"Does this high resolution version reveal the figure of a shooter?"
The gif answers: Most Likely

So, what do we have here?
We have Zapruder, Moorman, and Bell “saying" the very same thing... There was someone - at least one - behind the fence when President Kennedy was assassinated (see 3-image pic at the end of this post)...

I think this one gif can change an LN’r to a CT’r... overnight...


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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Michael Walton on May 22, 2022, 02:24:49 AM
Jake,

It was Ruby behind the fence and murdering JFK. That's why he also killed Oswald because he wanted to kill two birds with one stone but spare the grief of Jackie coming back to Dallas to testify.

Here is the exact moment when the fatal shot was fired. As you can see, he has that smug Jack Ruby smirk on him as he lowers his rifle to admire his handiwork. He knew he scored big on the fatal shot.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6kxwvA4bzVR9NJErJXs_70rFCH7bBledf5_hGMmNG-zioy7_Wh0tC6t5E6aJFKEDpHQQrxrRx5rznICFtQLOysvmHwdlo78F4-o5_FFhviAUuOKgDPrhwYg5J_vOAcaVJ5q6WspNVatvDcoDcfW1eqB5nrOA1KA9igaJxyi-qb55-8E5emnorrVem/w559-h470/01-just-fired.jpg)

And here is a close up of the photo further verifying it was Jack:

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjb0cbJVFvxyidVQwfouD_4T5UNlbkTIUapgYIgLVTSAA-Xro0KJq9qGLNKDhQ6RRDjxYmtuTKsprZAAPx7NVyyeFXp0SSQKF0qGBEYAbMUtJgGyFwUm97QxRmvle7GxeGjmfQc-fINfoAsWHZg8UWwXLEJPkLtyNozrNramwKhB2y4b2Meg0G1E1Z3/s16000/02-closeup-a.jpg)

And here it is again closer up. There's no doubt. He didn't even bother changing fedoras as it's the same one he wore Sunday when he murdered Oswald on live TV:

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpfLdevXQzOt9hOlhLAS3DuI0LT3fNdgNMhsxMNsRx683WuKuIiUKgGxmBoRFrzXYt0mN5AYYChY42Tvd8voMwREjjder_m3Z2eRaDj49HGO2kUL2Yf8rrGbTPAZ4v-bqYXc63f0beoZU_p6h_PVt-f3vsc8SbLaicIUTVc9LZYkY6eXLdgvncl5lo/s16000/03-closeup-b.jpg)
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on May 25, 2022, 03:13:13 PM
Jake,

It was Ruby behind the fence and murdering JFK. That's why he also killed Oswald because he wanted to kill two birds with one stone but spare the grief of Jackie coming back to Dallas to testify.

Here is the exact moment when the fatal shot was fired. As you can see, he has that smug Jack Ruby smirk on him as he lowers his rifle to admire his handiwork. He knew he scored big on the fatal shot.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6kxwvA4bzVR9NJErJXs_70rFCH7bBledf5_hGMmNG-zioy7_Wh0tC6t5E6aJFKEDpHQQrxrRx5rznICFtQLOysvmHwdlo78F4-o5_FFhviAUuOKgDPrhwYg5J_vOAcaVJ5q6WspNVatvDcoDcfW1eqB5nrOA1KA9igaJxyi-qb55-8E5emnorrVem/w559-h470/01-just-fired.jpg)

And here is a close up of the photo further verifying it was Jack:

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjb0cbJVFvxyidVQwfouD_4T5UNlbkTIUapgYIgLVTSAA-Xro0KJq9qGLNKDhQ6RRDjxYmtuTKsprZAAPx7NVyyeFXp0SSQKF0qGBEYAbMUtJgGyFwUm97QxRmvle7GxeGjmfQc-fINfoAsWHZg8UWwXLEJPkLtyNozrNramwKhB2y4b2Meg0G1E1Z3/s16000/02-closeup-a.jpg)

And here it is again closer up. There's no doubt. He didn't even bother changing fedoras as it's the same one he wore Sunday when he murdered Oswald on live TV:

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpfLdevXQzOt9hOlhLAS3DuI0LT3fNdgNMhsxMNsRx683WuKuIiUKgGxmBoRFrzXYt0mN5AYYChY42Tvd8voMwREjjder_m3Z2eRaDj49HGO2kUL2Yf8rrGbTPAZ4v-bqYXc63f0beoZU_p6h_PVt-f3vsc8SbLaicIUTVc9LZYkY6eXLdgvncl5lo/s16000/03-closeup-b.jpg)








        You've got to hand it to Jack... he really gets around!
     But yes... you have the general idea!

     I do think the corroboration among these three - films and photo - should give
     pause for consideration that someone was behind the fence during Kennedy’s assassination...


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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jerry Freeman on June 06, 2022, 08:00:10 AM
not nearly enough foliage coverage to fire a weapon unnoticed

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When was that taken? Here is the Nov 22 '63 view----

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 What was the "strange, strange find" anyway?
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Rick Plant on June 20, 2022, 01:56:11 AM
You could basically take any blob on a picture and make a figure out of it. Do you have any better photographic evidence to assert this Ruby claim? 
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on July 05, 2022, 03:31:54 AM

From the Unger Gallery...

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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Paul J Cummings on July 08, 2022, 04:22:45 PM
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on July 10, 2022, 11:39:16 PM


Yes, yes... I love Magic Eye pics... which I would surmise only about half of our members can see, for various reasons...
It does take TIME to be able to distinguish what might be more than an artifact in these old 1963 photos and films...

Here’s a favorite (below)... though many of us will not be able to see it...
Seeing Magic Eye 3D autostereogram images is a very good analogy for seeing some of these images in assassination photos and film... many of which appear to have been purposely “degraded” and altered... It takes time, and can be very frustrating...


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Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on August 29, 2023, 02:31:43 AM







        You've got to hand it to Jack... he really gets around!
     But yes... you have the general idea!

     I do think the corroboration among these three - films and photo - should give
     pause for consideration that someone was behind the fence during Kennedy’s assassination...


(https://i.ibb.co/Wfn97PZ/Screen-Shot-2022-05-25-at-8-37-11-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/bX1hY2T)

These images from three different sources seem to corroborate one another... and suggest a second gunman.... This evidence needs to be examined more closely...
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Richard Smith on August 29, 2023, 02:47:06 AM
Is there a full moon?  You couldn't see Joseph Stalin riding an elephant in those blurry images.  Anyone who has ever been to Dealey Plaza knows there was no shooter behind that fence.  It appears to give seclusion to a shooter from the Elm St. perspective that is always shown by CTers, but the backside of that fence is open to half of Dallas.  Wide open.   The notion that an assassin would choose that location to stand with his rifle awaiting JFK, shoot him, and then somehow escape is ludicrous. 
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Zeon Mason on August 29, 2023, 03:13:12 AM
There were lots of cars parked behind that fence which a shooter could have remained hidden  in or blocked by until the last minute.

The shooter might of worn a camouflage hat?
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Richard Smith on August 29, 2023, 03:18:29 AM
There were lots of cars parked behind that fence which a shooter could have remained hidden  in or blocked by until the last minute.

The shooter might of worn a camouflage hat?

He might also have dressed like the Easter bunny and hopped away to freedom.  Or been teleported by Capt. Kirk to the Starship Enterprise.  Have you ever been to that location?  It is wide open.  You could see a shooter standing there from five miles away.
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Zeon Mason on August 29, 2023, 04:17:48 AM
Yes, Richard, it’s “open” except when there LOTS of cars lined up in rows which DO allow for cover as there were on Nov 22/63.

There’s the observation by Lee Bowers that he saw 2 men kind of loitering around behind that fence so, it’s so improbable that one of them could have been a gunman.

It’s the “HAT” that’s questionable because Bowers didn’t describe either man wearing at har (as far as I remember).

There also that unidentified man was seen flashing a secret service badge by some witnesses whom the SS cannot account for as they did not have Ann SS agents assigned that area of the GK.
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Zeon Mason on August 29, 2023, 04:22:12 AM
Sorry, that was some bad typing there and it’s not because I’m drunk, rather it’s because I’m gettin old and this smart phone keyboard is
is TOO $&@ small.
Title: Re: Strange, strange find in Moorman Photo...
Post by: Steve Barber on September 04, 2023, 03:15:55 PM
Yes, Richard, it’s “open” except when there LOTS of cars lined up in rows which DO allow for cover as there were on Nov 22/63.

There’s the observation by Lee Bowers that he saw 2 men kind of loitering around behind that fence so, it’s so improbable that one of them could have been a gunman.

It’s the “HAT” that’s questionable because Bowers didn’t describe either man wearing at har (as far as I remember).

There also that unidentified man was seen flashing a secret service badge by some witnesses whom the SS cannot account for as they did not have Ann SS agents assigned that area of the GK.

  Lee Bowers didn't see two men "behind" the fence, looking at it from Elm Street.  Read this:  Mark Lane fooled everyone into believing Bowers saw two men "loitering around" between the fence and himself in the RR tower.  Not true.  Read Bowers entire interview of Bowers, and notice that Lane conveniently left out certain portions of Bowers' interview to falsely present his "case" for conspiracy.  Notice that Bowers says that one of the two men from time to time "walked back and forth and disappeared behind a wooden fence".  Behind in Bowers' sight means these men were on the side of the fence that faces Elm Street! 

 Source (Below): Wisconsin Historical
Society, USMss, 117AN
“Rush to Judgment” Box 60,
Folder 1 Page 4 of 13

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