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Title: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Steve Barber on March 21, 2022, 02:30:03 PM

  Does anyone know?  As discolored as it is, it shows great detail!


 (https://i.imgur.com/q1gUqa4.jpg)
Title: Re: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Steve Barber on March 23, 2022, 07:25:14 PM

   Sixty seven views of this thread, the frames from this version of the Zapruder film are constantly being posted throughout this forum, and no one knows from where the frames originate?  I think I saw it one time in motion, but it wasn't the entire film, as I recall.   I believe Robin Unger had it , but he comes and goes frequently from here as well as Facebook, so not easy to get a hold of him. 
Title: Re: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Jake Maxwell on March 24, 2022, 08:23:17 PM

And this is likely not even the best copy available... somewhere...
One Kodak employee who saw the original Zapruder that was shown to a group of about 15 people right after the film was processed, said the film was “needle sharp” with brilliant colors and the focus was “locked in.”
I don’t think there is one copy out there that has those three features... But we keep looking!
Title: Re: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Andrew Mason on March 24, 2022, 10:06:41 PM
   Sixty seven views of this thread, the frames from this version of the Zapruder film are constantly being posted throughout this forum, and no one knows from where the frames originate?  I think I saw it one time in motion, but it wasn't the entire film, as I recall.   I believe Robin Unger had it , but he comes and goes frequently from here as well as Facebook, so not easy to get a hold of him.
As you probably know well, the DVD Image of an Assassination has high resolution views  (https://www.amazon.ca/Image-Assassination-Look-Zapruder-Screen/dp/630507190X)(Close-up, Medium Close-up and Full frame with sprocket area.  The frames were digitized from the original Zfilm and the DVD contains a documentary about the process.  You can capture these frames from the video.  The resolution of captured frames is good but there should be better resolution frames made from the original high resolution digitized frames.  Perhaps you could get them through the film maker H.D. Motyl.  He is a professor at Southern Illinois University. (https://academics.siu.edu/comm-media/radio-television-digital-media/faculty/hd-motyl.php)
Title: Re: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Steve Barber on March 25, 2022, 06:50:31 PM
And this is likely not even the best copy available... somewhere...
One Kodak employee who saw the original Zapruder that was shown to a group of about 15 people right after the film was processed, said the film was “needle sharp” with brilliant colors and the focus was “locked in.”
I don’t think there is one copy out there that has those three features... But we keep looking!


  Agreed.  The only copy that even comes close to what that gentleman described is the National Archives copy.  It's so much sharper, clearer, brighter,  and lacks the grain the MPI copy contains throughout. Once I saw the National Archives copy, I couldn't understand why it wasn't released by MPI instead.   
Title: Re: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Steve Barber on March 25, 2022, 06:53:18 PM
As you probably know well, the DVD Image of an Assassination has high resolution views  (https://www.amazon.ca/Image-Assassination-Look-Zapruder-Screen/dp/630507190X)(Close-up, Medium Close-up and Full frame with sprocket area.  The frames were digitized from the original Zfilm and the DVD contains a documentary about the process.  You can capture these frames from the video.  The resolution of captured frames is good but there should be better resolution frames made from the original high resolution digitized frames.  Perhaps you could get them through the film maker H.D. Motyl.  He is a professor at Southern Illinois University. (https://academics.siu.edu/comm-media/radio-television-digital-media/faculty/hd-motyl.php)

Thank Andrew.  I bought that DVD in 1998 (I believe is when it was released?) and thought it was outstanding.  But then I saw the National Archives copy--clad with sprocket hole area included, and it blew me away!  Thanks so much just the same for the information. 
Title: Re: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Jake Maxwell on March 25, 2022, 08:10:48 PM

Is a National Archives copy available to acquire?
Title: Re: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Steve Barber on March 25, 2022, 09:12:11 PM
Is a National Archives copy available to acquire?

  If you move to 7:09 into this documentary, this is the NA copy of the film.  I'm not sure whether or not the public can acquire a personal copy or not.  I'd like to have a copy for myself, but have never checked into it. 
Title: Re: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Robin Unger on March 25, 2022, 11:28:14 PM
Steve

A small number of researchers were provided a limited number of the LARGE Zapruder frames.
these were provided by Craig Lamson.
As i understand it, the frames originally came from Josiah Thompson via Roland Zavada. ?
2nd generation frames.

(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/qdOf4EX_-_Imgur.jpg)
Title: Re: Where Can We See A Complete Copy Of This Version of Zapruder Film In Motion?
Post by: Steve Barber on March 26, 2022, 04:33:32 PM
Steve

A small number of researchers were provided a limited number of the LARGE Zapruder frames.
these were provided by Craig Lamson.
As i understand it, the frames originally came from Josiah Thompson via Roland Zavada. ?
2nd generation frames.

(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/qdOf4EX_-_Imgur.jpg)

 Thank you, Robin.