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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Bill Brown on July 01, 2021, 02:50:55 AM
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And btw there is no such thing as Dudley Hughes data. Based on an article written by Nash in 1964, LNs have claimed that a time stamp card showed the call for an ambulance came in at 1:18. The problem with that is that no such card exists...
This entire "time stamp card" business is nothing but hot air.
Still smoke and mirrors to divert attention away from your bogus claim that the Nashes saw the card.
Now produce the proof that the Nashes actually saw the card...... Oh wait, you can't.....
Only the weak and feeble claim that their own argument is so strong that others can not understand it. Kinda sad, really...
An appeal to common sense is only used by people who can not produce the evidence to support their silly claims.
And, of course, there is still not a shred of evidence presented that the Nashes actually saw the time stamped card.
Statement by J.C. Butler (HSCA, 1977) saying that in 1964 he reproduced (made a copy of) that trip ticket and it was given to the Nashes.
Sent to me from Dale Myers:
(https://i.imgur.com/yAi2Hsqh.jpg)
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The point is that the Nashes saw the trip ticket and noted that the call was received at 1:18. They even specified the column in which the 1:18 was marked.
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The point is that the Nashes saw the trip ticket and noted that the call was received at 1:18. They even specified the column in which the 1:18 was marked.
Yes it is the point. You just don't like it.
There is no reference in the Butler document that names the Nashes. There isn't even confirmation that the "trip ticket" Butler mentioned is the same as the Time stamped card Dudley Jr. used on 11/22/63.
So, stop the fairytale and the far fetched conclusions and provide the actual proof, which would be the Time stamped card.
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Yes it is the point. You just don't like it.
There is no reference in the Butler document that names the Nashes. There isn't even confirmation that the "trip ticket" Butler mentioned is the same as the Time stamped card Dudley Jr. used on 11/22/63.
So, stop the fairytale and the far fetched conclusions and provide the actual proof, which would be the Time stamped card.
Denial. But whatever.
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Denial. But whatever.
That's all you've got?
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That's all you've got?
Butler made a copy of the trip ticket. It was given to the Nashes. You're denying it. What else is there?
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"I did have occasion to reproduce that trip ticket and it was given to a man and wife reporting team from Life magazine in 1964" -- J.C. Butler
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"I did have occasion to reproduce that trip ticket and it was given to a man and wife reporting team from Life magazine in 1964" -- J.C. Butler
Sure, Butler gave it to the Nashes, but failed to give the original or a copy to the FBI..... Yeah right!
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More denial.
Butler made a copy of the trip ticket and it was given to the Nashes.
You guys don't have to like it.
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There's nothing in evidence to deny.
Copies can be faked, like the one the WC allegedly was show by Gladys Johnson (Beckley register).
Like counts do not translate to evidence.
Nonsense.
Why would ambulance driver J.C. Butler lie about a trip ticket?
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Nonsense.
Why would ambulance driver J.C. Butler lie about a trip ticket?
Hi Bill, after many years of interacting with these "researchers", what it comes down to is that these hardcore CT's simply lack the cognitive skills to effectively analyse the evidence and due to their pre conceived biased delusions, have already made up their minds and thus any rational logical argument will always descend into unproven paranoid chaos for instance that's faked, they lied, that was planted, etc etc.
There is literally a mountain of evidence that Oswald was at the corner of Patton and Tenth and killed Tippit, and besides bashing the eyewitnesses the main CT refutation is that Oswald didn't have the time to make it, but the CT's star witness is what the CT's themselves call a "screwball" and secondly they rely on the watch of a man who confesses that his watch may have been as much as five minutes off, and that's basically the best they've got! It's seriously is a waste of time trying to talk sense to these sheeple.
JohnM
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Hi Bill, after many years of interacting with these "researchers", what it comes down to is that these hardcore CT's simply lack the cognitive skills to effectively analyse the evidence and due to their pre conceived biased delusions, have already made up their minds and thus any rational logical argument will always descend into unproven paranoid chaos for instance that's faked, they lied, that was planted, etc etc.
There is literally a mountain of evidence that Oswald was at the corner of Patton and Tenth and killed Tippit, and besides bashing the eyewitnesses the main CT refutation is that Oswald didn't have the time to make it, but the CT's star witness is what the CT's themselves call a "screwball" and secondly they rely on the watch of a man who confesses that his watch may have been as much as five minutes off, and that's basically the best they've got! It's seriously is a waste of time trying to talk sense to these sheeple.
JohnM
Hi John.
I agree with you.
I guess my posts are intended for those who are truly interested in learning this stuff objectively.
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"I did have occasion to reproduce that trip ticket and it was given to a man and wife reporting team from Life magazine in 1964" -- J.C. Butler
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Hi John.
I agree with you.
I guess my posts are intended for those who are truly interested in learning this stuff objectively.
I enjoy reading your posts and I usually learn something new, keep it up.
JohnM
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Didn't Parnell & Scully kind of put this to bed? Anybody care to go 'wayback'?
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The point is that the Nashes saw the trip ticket and noted that the call was received at 1:18. They even specified the column in which the 1:18 was marked.
Bill, if the trip ticket was found and presented in a forum like this, what are the odds that it would be accepted as being genuine and accurate by the diehard Oswald defenders? If the DPD radio Dispatch clocks (near synchronized with the Hertz clock on the TSBD roof) are not to be considered as accurate, then why would the Hughes funeral home clock be?
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Tim,
That's a very good point. You can lead a horse to water...
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There is literally a mountain of evidence that Oswald was at the corner of Patton and Tenth and killed Tippit, and besides bashing the eyewitnesses the main CT refutation is that Oswald didn't have the time to make it, but the CT's star witness is what the CT's themselves call a "screwball" and secondly they rely on the watch of a man who confesses that his watch may have been as much as five minutes off, and that's basically the best they've got! It's seriously is a waste of time trying to talk sense to these sheeple.
Says the guy who relies on biased and unfair lineups and months later showings of a single mugshot to people who witnessed no crime, and calls it "literally a mountain of evidence".
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"I did have occasion to reproduce that trip ticket and it was given to a man and wife reporting team from Life magazine in 1964" -- J.C. Butler
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A lot of people claim to have seen and done a lot of things. Without the actual card to examine, it remains unsubstantiated.
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A lot of people claim to have seen and done a lot of things. Without the actual card to examine, it remains unsubstantiated.
Denial.
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Bill, if the trip ticket was found and presented in a forum like this, what are the odds that it would be accepted as being genuine and accurate by the diehard Oswald defenders? If the DPD radio Dispatch clocks (near synchronized with the Hertz clock on the TSBD roof) are not to be considered as accurate, then why would the Hughes funeral home clock be?
If the DPD radio Dispatch clocks (near synchronized with the Hertz clock on the TSBD roof)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/13P79zsV/12-30-in-sync.jpg)
JohnM
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Denial.
Bill’s only skeptical of unsubstantiated claims when they don’t fit his preferred narrative.