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Title: Did Elvis shoot JFK?
Post by: Gerry Down on May 27, 2021, 08:26:25 PM
Interesting theory here with slideshow: https://prezi.com/smoypgovkhbv/elvis-shot-jfk/
Title: Re: Did Elvis shoot JFK?
Post by: Jerry Organ on May 28, 2021, 01:23:50 AM
Interesting theory here with slideshow: https://prezi.com/smoypgovkhbv/elvis-shot-jfk/

Elvis and JFK were connected by knowing a Dr. Feelgood.
Title: Re: Did Elvis shoot JFK?
Post by: Richard Smith on May 28, 2021, 01:33:56 AM
Elvis was trained in the use of karate.  His entire body was a weapon.  He did not need to resort to firearms (i.e. "Elvis' rifle - LOL").  Besides he preferred fried banana and peanut butter sandwiches instead of chicken.  So I call BS on this one.
Title: Re: Did Elvis shoot JFK?
Post by: Gerry Down on May 28, 2021, 01:54:05 AM
Both Oswald and Elvis were in the military. It would be interesting to compare their rifle test score cards.
Title: Re: Did Elvis shoot JFK?
Post by: Anthony Frank on May 28, 2021, 02:45:53 AM
Both Oswald and Elvis were in the military. It would be interesting to compare their rifle test score cards.

I don't know about Elvis, but Oswald was a lousy shot.

Colonel Allison Folsom, who examined Oswald’s Marine Corps records for the Warren Commission, testified that Oswald’s record showed that his marksmanship was “not good” and that his average score over a two-day period was 36 when “people should get a score of between 48 and 50.”

In addition to his testimony, Colonel Folsom sent a letter to the Warren Commission on June 8, 1964, regarding Oswald’s marksmanship. It states that a Marine would qualify as an Expert with a minimum score of 220, would qualify as a Sharpshooter with a minimum score of 210, and would qualify as a Marksman with a minimum score of 190.

Folsom stated that according to Oswald’s Marine Corps record, on May 6, 1959, four months before his defection to the Soviet Union, his score was 191, one point above the bare minimum to qualify as a Marksman.

Folsom also stated, “A low Marksman qualification indicates a rather poor shot and a Sharpshooter qualification indicates a fairly good shot.”

Colonel Folsom’s information clearly shows that two and a half years after Oswald’s first two months of intensive Marine Corps training, he was one point above the bare minimum to qualify as a Marksman, Oswald was nowhere near a “fairly good shot.” He was most definitely a “rather poor shot,” even though he was still firing at a stationary target with a Marine-issued M-1 rifle on a Marine Corps rifle range.
Title: Re: Did Elvis shoot JFK?
Post by: Tim Nickerson on June 04, 2021, 11:11:23 AM
I don't know about Elvis, but Oswald was a lousy shot.

Colonel Allison Folsom, who examined Oswald’s Marine Corps records for the Warren Commission, testified that Oswald’s record showed that his marksmanship was “not good” and that his average score over a two-day period was 36 when “people should get a score of between 48 and 50.”

In addition to his testimony, Colonel Folsom sent a letter to the Warren Commission on June 8, 1964, regarding Oswald’s marksmanship. It states that a Marine would qualify as an Expert with a minimum score of 220, would qualify as a Sharpshooter with a minimum score of 210, and would qualify as a Marksman with a minimum score of 190.

Folsom stated that according to Oswald’s Marine Corps record, on May 6, 1959, four months before his defection to the Soviet Union, his score was 191, one point above the bare minimum to qualify as a Marksman.

Folsom also stated, “A low Marksman qualification indicates a rather poor shot and a Sharpshooter qualification indicates a fairly good shot.”

Colonel Folsom’s information clearly shows that two and a half years after Oswald’s first two months of intensive Marine Corps training, he was one point above the bare minimum to qualify as a Marksman, Oswald was nowhere near a “fairly good shot.” He was most definitely a “rather poor shot,” even though he was still firing at a stationary target with a Marine-issued M-1 rifle on a Marine Corps rifle range.

Was Oswald really a lousy shot? I would have thought that someone who scored as a Sharpshooter would be a rather good shot. Then again, it did take him three shots to eliminate his target. So, maybe he was a lousy shot after all.
Title: Re: Did Elvis shoot JFK?
Post by: Bill Chapman on June 04, 2021, 07:07:31 PM
I don't know about Elvis, but Oswald was a lousy shot.

Colonel Allison Folsom, who examined Oswald’s Marine Corps records for the Warren Commission, testified that Oswald’s record showed that his marksmanship was “not good” and that his average score over a two-day period was 36 when “people should get a score of between 48 and 50.”

In addition to his testimony, Colonel Folsom sent a letter to the Warren Commission on June 8, 1964, regarding Oswald’s marksmanship. It states that a Marine would qualify as an Expert with a minimum score of 220, would qualify as a Sharpshooter with a minimum score of 210, and would qualify as a Marksman with a minimum score of 190.

Folsom stated that according to Oswald’s Marine Corps record, on May 6, 1959, four months before his defection to the Soviet Union, his score was 191, one point above the bare minimum to qualify as a Marksman.

Folsom also stated, “A low Marksman qualification indicates a rather poor shot and a Sharpshooter qualification indicates a fairly good shot.”

Colonel Folsom’s information clearly shows that two and a half years after Oswald’s first two months of intensive Marine Corps training, he was one point above the bare minimum to qualify as a Marksman, Oswald was nowhere near a “fairly good shot.” He was most definitely a “rather poor shot,” even though he was still firing at a stationary target with a Marine-issued M-1 rifle on a Marine Corps rifle range.

As a patsy, Oswald was only supposed to shoot near Kennedy. But he was an even worse shot than even Oswald arse-kissers claim as it turns out.

Later, while attempting to fire warning shots @Tippit, he again displayed his truly remarkable lack of skill.

And finally, in yet another example of how being trained in the Marines can pose a great danger to all of us, not only our enemies: The little prick (aka 'Dirty Harvey') almost shot another cop by accident when he tried to give up his Smith & Wesson.
Title: Re: Did Elvis shoot JFK?
Post by: Andrew Mason on June 04, 2021, 07:39:02 PM
It all makes sense now.  The "I am just a patsy" comment was transcribed improperly by journalists.  He was really saying "I am just a Patsy" as in Patsy Presley, Elvis' cousin and personal secretary.  So Oswald made all the arrangements for the assassination but the performance itself was done by Elvis.  So it is really an admission of guilt by Oswald.

Now Elvis was, reportedly, in LA doing a movie at the time. But with so many Elvis impersonators, it would have been an easy switch to come up with an alibi. 
Title: Re: Did Elvis shoot JFK?
Post by: Mitch Todd on June 05, 2021, 12:25:33 AM
I don't know about Elvis, but Oswald was a lousy shot.

Colonel Allison Folsom, who examined Oswald’s Marine Corps records for the Warren Commission, testified that Oswald’s record showed that his marksmanship was “not good” and that his average score over a two-day period was 36 when “people should get a score of between 48 and 50.”

In addition to his testimony, Colonel Folsom sent a letter to the Warren Commission on June 8, 1964, regarding Oswald’s marksmanship. It states that a Marine would qualify as an Expert with a minimum score of 220, would qualify as a Sharpshooter with a minimum score of 210, and would qualify as a Marksman with a minimum score of 190.

Folsom stated that according to Oswald’s Marine Corps record, on May 6, 1959, four months before his defection to the Soviet Union, his score was 191, one point above the bare minimum to qualify as a Marksman.

Folsom also stated, “A low Marksman qualification indicates a rather poor shot and a Sharpshooter qualification indicates a fairly good shot.”

Colonel Folsom’s information clearly shows that two and a half years after Oswald’s first two months of intensive Marine Corps training, he was one point above the bare minimum to qualify as a Marksman, Oswald was nowhere near a “fairly good shot.” He was most definitely a “rather poor shot,” even though he was still firing at a stationary target with a Marine-issued M-1 rifle on a Marine Corps rifle range.

Let's look at that 191 sharpshooter score. The Marine Corps rifle qualification involved firing 50 rounds into targets at ranges from 200 to 500 yards.  A single round scores anywhere from 0 points (missed the target entirely) to 5 points (hit the center). Anyone scoring a 191 would hit the target a minimum of 191/5 times, rounding up. That is, they would hit the target a minimum 39 or 50 times or 78% of the time. Even a "poor shot" in this test would be a far better marksman than some would think.