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As the car passed, Charles Brehm leaned to his left at the same moment the son stepped (or transferred weight onto his right leg) and leaned to his right. Both contributed to the gap between them.
| (https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/ZMN2_frame_0001.jpg) (https://sites.google.com/site/jfkforum/misc/newsgroup/spacers/dot_clear.gif) Z273: Brehm leaning forward and to his right | (https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/ZMN2_frame_0004.jpg) (https://sites.google.com/site/jfkforum/misc/newsgroup/spacers/dot_clear.gif) Z276: Boy running and now leaning backward to stop | |
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People aren't stickpins stuck in the ground. Their bodies can pivot and rotate; go back-and-forth and side-to-side. Probably the person is not much aware of it.
What's the problem?
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Your GIF is showing the son's movements in slow motion. The problem is that in just 0.56 seconds, the son emerges from behind his dad to be standing beside him and clapping, which is an impossible movement in that amount of time. Get a kid close to Brehm's son's age, or get a teenager even, and do an experiment: See if the kid can carry out those same movements in just 0.56 seconds. Get a chair. Have the kid stand mostly behind the chair. Tell the kid to move from behind the chair to a position roughly beside the chair and to be clapping while he completes the last 0.10 seconds of the movements. I did this with one of my sons many times, and he was never able to even come close to duplicating Brehm's son's movements in 0.56 seconds.
Indeed, your GIF shows the problem. In slow motion, the son's movements should be much slower than they are in your GIF. In your GIF, the son's movements seem to occur at a natural speed precisely because the movements are much faster when the film is played at its regular speed.
Your GIF is showing the son's movements in slow motion.
Get a kid close to Brehm's son's age, or get a teenager even, and do an experiment: See if the kid can carry out those same movements in just 0.56 seconds. Get a chair. Have the kid stand mostly behind the chair. Tell the kid to move from behind the chair to a position roughly beside the chair and to be clapping while he completes the last 0.10 seconds of the movements. I did this with one of my sons many times, and he was never able to even come close to duplicating Brehm's son's movements in 0.56 seconds.
Indeed, your GIF shows the problem. In slow motion, the son's movements should be much slower than they are in your GIF. In your GIF, the son's movements seem to occur at a natural speed precisely because the movements are much faster when the film is played at its regular speed.
Numerous elements in the Zapruder film still refute the lone-gunman theory, which is why the film was suppressed for so long. Those who edited the film simply were not able to remove enough of the problematic elements to make the film fully compatible with a lone-gunman scenario.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qB64sjleNYw/WGMqFkG690I/AAAAAAAAAaQ/8jtXjjfWtIIR3i_DnSuPDLCUOIIknhvQgCLcB/s640/Muchmore+2.gif) (https://i.postimg.cc/26SgQV5B/Brehm-Zapruder.gif)
Looks like the boy is just taking a step. The same rate of speed that the boy travels is seen in both films.
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Left: Muchmore frame (later than Z-frame to right); Right: Z276 appears to show boy's head and both legs on Brehm's right side.
Another physically impossible movement in the current Zapruder film is the head turn of the driver, William Greer, from Z315-321. Greer turns his head about 165 degrees in six frames, or in only 1/3rd of a second. Mike Pincher and Roy Schaeffer observe that Greer's head turn should create blurring in the film because the human eye can't remain focused when following such a rapid movement, but no blurring is seen:
Looks like the boy is just taking a step. The same rate of speed that the boy travels is seen in both films. Left: Muchmore frame (later than Z-frame to right); Right: Z276 appears to show boy's head and both legs on Brehm's right side.
How about if we turn to another indication of tampering in the Zapruder film: the fact that in the Zapruder film, Jackie goes only just beyond the middle point of the trunk before retreating, but that in the Nix film she clearly goes much farther out on the trunk. Z380 is the frame before Jackie begins to retreat from the trunk. She is barely halfway past the middle of the trunk, and only her right hand is just beyond the middle point--the rest of her body is clearly behind the middle point. Moreover, she is nowhere near Agent Hill--her right hand is at least a foot from Hill. In stark contrast, the Nix film shows Jackie much farther on the truck and very close to Agent Hill.
You miss the point of the exercise, compare the distance travelled by the relatively slow moving Limo to the minuscule movement of Brehms kid. Anyway to make you happy I modified the Gif to play out at regular speed and in all cases all movements are completely harmonious.
Btw exactly what do you think they were trying to hide by doing the alteration as you describe?
Yawn, Michael it's up to you to prove your own claim, I'm frankly a bit tired of you amateur noobs saying "I see something, now you prove me wrong" how about you film your kid in the exact same circumstances and let's analyse that.
Here we go again, more speculation of what you think you see, claims are a dime a dozen around here, either back up your claims with photographic/video proof or don't but it's your credibility at risk not mine!
You miss the point of the exercise, compare the distance travelled by the relatively slow moving Limo to the minuscule movement of Brehms kid. Anyway to make you happy I modified the Gif to play out at regular speed and in all cases all movements are completely harmonious. Btw exactly what do you think they were trying to hide by doing the alteration as you describe?
(https://i.postimg.cc/zv2ZBwL7/Brehm-Zaprudera.gif)
Yawn, Michael it's up to you to prove your own claim, I'm frankly a bit tired of you amateur noobs saying "I see something, now you prove me wrong" how about you film your kid in the exact same circumstances and let's analyse that.
Here we go again, more speculation of what you think you see, claims are a dime a dozen around here, either back up your claims with photographic/video proof or don't but it's your credibility at risk not mine!
JohnM
Excellent rebuttals, all, John.
Paranoiac, Deep-State-believing amateur sleuths dabbling in "photo analysis" wear me out, too.
Mike would probably feel more at home at the so-called The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon, the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true. with the likes of John Butler (unless, of course, he IS John Butler).
-- MWT ;)
Thanks Thomas, I've been doing this for a long time and it's just nonsense claim after nonsense claim and these latest supposed anomalies from Griffith of action x not being able to be completed in time y are just absurd, yet every time I prove each and every one of my re-futations with graphic after graphic it's just ignored for another problem that he thinks he sees, there is no way to argue with these people mostly because they lack the expertise to analyse images/videos and thus cannot illustrate their alternative ideas as a response, so until they're blue in the face they just keep repeating the same unsubstantiated claims. -sigh-
JohnM
To Michael Griffith,
You may want to read the Zavada report. In it, it was shown that the original Z film was not altered in any way. Despite what other researchers think, it would have been technically impossible to alter a home movie that was 8mm in size.
http://www.jfk-info.com/moot1.htm
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You may want to view this synced video of Z and Nix:
You have to ask yourself how it'd be possible to alter one film and then have to alter the other film to make them match. It'd be impossible to do technically.
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Here's a film produced by the SS in 1964:
So if the film was altered, why wouldn't they include the altered film in this government film they made? Except for the Z film being in B/W it looks exactly like the film we have all seen today. Skip to about 11:38.
Yes, John, yes. What the film *actually* shows is highly suspicious. But, yes, the film itself was not altered, which is why it was kept away from public viewing for 12 long years. Put another way, I often wonder what would have happened if the film had been shown to the public that very day. Do you ever wonder why it didn't happen, John?
I know why it wasn't shown that day. Because of the graphic nature of the film. Besides, the contract Zapruder made with Life Magazine, stipulated that it not be made public. Things were far, far different in 1963 than they are now, and stuff like this was far too graphic to show on TV. Over the years, people became desensitized to such violence, so now it's not a big deal. It just shows how decadent society has become. And i see nothing "suspicious" about what the film "actually shows". May I ask what you expect it to show?
Things were far, far different in 1963 than they are now, and stuff like this was far too graphic to show on TV.
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JohnM
I cannot see how the film was altered or why.
The only place you could claim it was is the cut at the start. Zapruder said he stopped filming and that makes sense, There was nothing during that time that would have been worth editing out, would there?