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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: James Hackerott on February 06, 2020, 03:01:54 AM
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I ask because I recently listened to a portion of the Ken DuVall oral history in the museum's Reading Room. Mr. DuVall recalled LHO operating the fork lift to load(or unload?) DuVall's truck until about 30 minutes before the President was to pass the Depository. Thank you.
James
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I ask because I recently listened to a portion of the Ken DuVall oral history in the museum's Reading Room. Mr. DuVall recalled LHO operating the fork lift to load(or unload?) DuVall's truck until about 30 minutes before the President was to pass the Depository. Thank you.
James
I've never heard of a fork lift being used at the TSBD..... And I don't recall seeing a forklift in any of the many photos that I've seen. But.... I do know that the boxes of books were stacked on pallets ...... which would indicate that a fork lift might have been in use. If there was a forklift at the TSBD ....I doubt that Lee Oswald would have been allowed to operate it, because he was a new hire, and he didn't even know how to drive a car.
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It's 1963, it's the South, and OSHA ain't the OSHA we know today. I would bet that most every Tom, Dick, and Harry that had been at the TSBD 2 weeks would be capable of handling an alleged forklift when mandated by mgt or a straw boss like Shelley. I would Not be surprised if they shuttled the same forklift between the 2 TSBD's. They also had a railroad spur running behind the TSBD which wrapped around the rear of the Pergola. I doubt TSBD employees would be loading/unloading the railroad cars sitting on this Spur by hand. My major concerns would be: (1) Where was the alleged TRUCK specifically located while being unloaded? and (2) Was the truck gone by the time the JFK Limo passed by the TSBD? We already have that mysterious Laundry Truck that was parked at the corner of Elm/Houston St/ right alongside the Dal Tex Bld. This Laundry Truck Immediately Vanished after the Kill Shot. Now, we are hearing about an Additional Truck that was present at the TSBD 30 minutes before the Kill Shot. Mmmmmmm...........
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It's 1963, it's the South, and OSHA ain't the OSHA we know today. I would bet that most every Tom, Dick, and Harry that had been at the TSBD 2 weeks would be capable of handling an alleged forklift when mandated by mgt or a straw boss like Shelley. I would Not be surprised if they shuttled the same forklift between the 2 TSBD's. They also had a railroad spur running behind the TSBD which wrapped around the rear of the Pergola. I doubt TSBD employees would be loading/unloading the railroad cars sitting on this Spur by hand. My major concerns would be: (1) Where was the alleged TRUCK specifically located while being unloaded? and (2) Was the truck gone by the time the JFK Limo passed by the TSBD? We already have that mysterious Laundry Truck that was parked at the corner of Elm/Houston St/ right alongside the Dal Tex Bld. This Laundry Truck Immediately Vanished after the Kill Shot. Now, we are hearing about an Additional Truck that was present at the TSBD 30 minutes before the Kill Shot. Mmmmmmm...........
.... mmmmmmmassive paranoia continues to run amok amongst you lot.
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I also never heard or saw any reference to a Forklift James. Most likely, if need be, a Pallet Jack was used, as it could have been moved floor to floor.
Yeah, I was also thinking pallet jacks would be a good solution.
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It's 1963, it's the South, and OSHA ain't the OSHA we know today. I would bet that most every Tom, Dick, and Harry that had been at the TSBD 2 weeks would be capable of handling an alleged forklift when mandated by mgt or a straw boss like Shelley. I would Not be surprised if they shuttled the same forklift between the 2 TSBD's. They also had a railroad spur running behind the TSBD which wrapped around the rear of the Pergola. I doubt TSBD employees would be loading/unloading the railroad cars sitting on this Spur by hand. My major concerns would be: (1) Where was the alleged TRUCK specifically located while being unloaded? and (2) Was the truck gone by the time the JFK Limo passed by the TSBD? We already have that mysterious Laundry Truck that was parked at the corner of Elm/Houston St/ right alongside the Dal Tex Bld. This Laundry Truck Immediately Vanished after the Kill Shot. Now, we are hearing about an Additional Truck that was present at the TSBD 30 minutes before the Kill Shot. Mmmmmmm...........
Not one truck, but two. DuVall says he and another worker were instructed to take two (garbled) to the TSBD, spot them, and load them. The forklift was not the only "Say What?" moment in the oral history. I could only listen to 15 minutes of the 41 minute history before I could not take any more.
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DuVall sounds like he was blowing some big ones. He also indicated he was sitting on the steps of the TSBD and when JFKs car approached he saw a man in black car parked next to the TSBD get out with a rifle. Something no film or photos shows.
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There was another TSBD facility a short distance away. We, understandably, haven’t been given much information about it. Just guessing, but perhaps they kept a forklift there for the very large stuff. And the facility at Elm and Houston typically handled smaller shipments (after the largest ones were broken down and divided at the other facility)? I do seem to remember one of the workers saying that they took some of the shipments leaving the Elm Street facility to the post office on their own truck.
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Not one truck, but two. DuVall says he and another worker were instructed to take two (garbled) to the TSBD, spot them, and load them. The forklift was not the only "Say What?" moment in the oral history. I could only listen to 15 minutes of the 41 minute history before I could not take any more.
The "loading" of a truck with the use of a forklift or forklifts makes sense. The sheer weight of a pallet with product loaded atop it would most likely rule out the use of a Hand Jack/Pallet Jack. It can be done, but to do this day-in-day-out would be horrendously counter productive. Who knows? Maybe these truck(s) were used/owned by the TSBD and the forklifts were Exclusively used to load/unload trucks and therefore housed Inside the trucks. This would account for No Images of TSBD forklifts. The hand jacks/pallet jacks were dedicated for use Inside the TSBD.
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DuVall sounds like he was blowing some big ones. He also indicated he was sitting on the steps of the TSBD and when JFKs car approached he saw a man in black car parked next to the TSBD get out with a rifle. Something no film or photos shows.
when JFKs car approached he saw a man in black car parked next to the TSBD get out with a rifle
Unless the clown saw a cop get out with a shotgu, and thought it was a Man with a rifle ....There's no explanation for the clown's tale.
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The more I think about it, the less I think that there was a forklift at the TSBD. Forklifts are very heavy even without carrying a load. A small one like we had where I used to work weighed 10,000lbs all by itself. I can’t imagine that any of the wooden floors would have withstood the weight of a forklift. It would have fallen through the floor. I have seen that happen even on a concrete floor that wasn’t designed for that much weight...
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It's 1963, it's the South, and OSHA ain't the OSHA we know today. I would bet that most every Tom, Dick, and Harry that had been at the TSBD 2 weeks would be capable of handling an alleged forklift when mandated by mgt or a straw boss like Shelley. I would Not be surprised if they shuttled the same forklift between the 2 TSBD's. They also had a railroad spur running behind the TSBD which wrapped around the rear of the Pergola. I doubt TSBD employees would be loading/unloading the railroad cars sitting on this Spur by hand. My major concerns would be: (1) Where was the alleged TRUCK specifically located while being unloaded? and (2) Was the truck gone by the time the JFK Limo passed by the TSBD? We already have that mysterious Laundry Truck that was parked at the corner of Elm/Houston St/ right alongside the Dal Tex Bld. This Laundry Truck Immediately Vanished after the Kill Shot. Now, we are hearing about an Additional Truck that was present at the TSBD 30 minutes before the Kill Shot. Mmmmmmm...........
Have you ever operated a fork lift AKA "tow motor" in a cramped commercial or industrial environment, navigating the thing from floor to floor, with a load, on and off a freight elevator?
I have several thousand hours experience, servicing "piece work" process machine operators with a continuous supply of pre-processed material to keep their machines operating without interruption.
Are you aware these lift trucks steer via the rear wheels, each turn of the steering wheel having the opposite effect of conventional front wheel steering, or that visibility in front is difficult with a load on the forks when
attempting entry onto a freight elevator... judging when the vehicle is deep enough intp the elevator to be able to close the door? Are you aware that these lift trucks "rock" like a see-saw when overloaded, lifting the rear, steering wheels off the ground, making control impossible without adequate experience using braking and acceleration to set the rear, steering wheels on the ground long enough to even make a turn when "see-sawing"?
If not, why did you bother to post? Supervisors need to walk arounf their own shop. The last thing a supervisor conscious of his own safety would do is to permit inexperienced workers to operate a fork lift. This is why, in the interests of safety and efficiency, most commercial operations designate who operates a fork lift regularly and who does not. A loading dock requires experienced lift truck operators even more than other work areas because of the potential to damage a delivery truck while maneuvering the lifting forks in a dark, confined area like the inside of an enclosed truck. Untill you've maneuvered a large lift truck on and off a flatbed trailer with no side walls, one front drive wheel partially extended into open aire on the flatbed edge with a four ton load on the forks, you haven't lived!
I once had to page at an airport an executive of the company I had driven a lift truck at before I was promoted into management, to advise him that his son. just graduated from high school and working that summer as a temporary maintenance crew member, was in the emergency room receiving treatment for pelvic and abdominal injuries resulting from "contact" with a lift truck that had trapped him against the back wall of the freight elevator the two were sharing.
There is no actual evidence the individual making the claims about Oswald unloading his truck with a fork lift was actually even at TSBD that day, and certainly none that he sat on the TSBD vestibule steps. as he claimed, more than forty years later!
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The "loading" of a truck with the use of a forklift or forklifts makes sense. The sheer weight of a pallet with product loaded atop it would most likely rule out the use of a Hand Jack/Pallet Jack. It can be done, but to do this day-in-day-out would be horrendously counter productive. Who knows? Maybe these truck(s) were used/owned by the TSBD and the forklifts were Exclusively used to load/unload trucks and therefore housed Inside the trucks. This would account for No Images of TSBD forklifts. The hand jacks/pallet jacks were dedicated for use Inside the TSBD.
Except you offer no cites in support of your posted opinion and we are discussing the claims, made more than forty years later, of an individual who offered no actual proof he and his delivery truck were at TSBD on November 22.
At least I can offer a cite from a source making a clearly contradictory claim.... no forklifts at TSBD....
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=48712&relPageId=9
(http://jfkforum.com/images/OswaldTSBDforklift.jpg)
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Except you offer no cites in support of your posted opinion and we are discussing the claims, made more than forty years later, of an individual who offered no actual proof he and his delivery truck were at TSBD on November 22.
At least I can offer a cite from a source making a clearly contradictory claim.... no forklifts at TSBD....
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=48712&relPageId=9
(http://jfkforum.com/images/OswaldTSBDforklift.jpg)
For whatever reason You are Ignoring the Loading of product ONTO a truck. You are also Ignoring the possible Staging of product when a Forklift Unloaded it Off of a truck, and that same product then being relocated throughout the TSBD via Hand Jack(s). And then there is your Ignoring the possible Fork Lift loading of product onto the rail cars situated on the Railroad Spur behind the TSBD. Maybe the Trump Exoneration has you on the wrong side of the bed today?
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At least I can offer a cite from a source making a clearly contradictory claim.... no forklifts at TSBD....
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=48712&relPageId=9
(http://jfkforum.com/images/OswaldTSBDforklift.jpg)
Congratulations on your awesome use of the Advanced Search function at the Ferrell website, Mr Scully. You continue to astonish us with your skillset!
Now! We note that the writer of the article you link to offers no backup for their claim. So where have they gotten this 'information' from?
And do you have sufficient faith in the writer's judgment to accept their dramatic argument that the (alleged) absence of a fork-lift at the Depository suggests that the "heavily framed wooden crates" seen by Mr Hurt on the sixth floor in 1983 did not originally contain books but something rather more nefarious?
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This seems as good as place as any to post my two and half pages of notes (scribbles) of the first 15 minutes of the 41 minute oral history of Ken DuVall. I can still read most of my notes. Wherever Mr. DuVall speaks of his actions he uses 'we', as his co-worker apparently went where DuVall went. In this first 15 minutes Stephan Fagin (interviewer) tried twice to return to his observations of Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom In my opinion Mr. DuVall was somewhat vague and dismissive with that questioning. Please excuse the many spelling errors throughout the notes.
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Who the fork cares?
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Who the fork cares?
My concern would be with the Truck(s): (1) Where the Truck(s) were Specifically located, and (2) Were the Truck(s) still there when the JFK Limo passed by the TSBD? Based on the notes above, It appears the truck(s) were there During the time period the JFK Limo passed by the TSBD. If a Truck is Large enough to run a fork lift into and out of it, it is Large in general. This would mean the roof of the Truck/Trailer would be High Above the ground. Depending on the location of the Truck, this High Ground position on the roof of the Truck/Trailer would be a Prime Sniper Location.
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For whatever reason You are Ignoring the Loading of product ONTO a truck. You are also Ignoring the possible Staging of product when a Forklift Unloaded it Off of a truck, and that same product then being relocated throughout the TSBD via Hand Jack(s). And then there is your Ignoring the possible Fork Lift loading of product onto the rail cars situated on the Railroad Spur behind the TSBD. Maybe the Trump Exoneration has you on the wrong side of the bed today?
What "Trump Exoneration"? An acquittal by 53% of the US Senate voting "not guilty", is not an exoneration!
In any event, have you ever heard of a dolly? It is armstrong powered, with 2 wheels, and a platform on the bottom for stacking freight.
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What "Trump Exoneration"? An acquittal by 53% of the US Senate voting "not guilty", is not an exoneration!
In any event, have you ever heard of a dolly? It is armstrong powered, with 2 wheels, and a platform on the bottom for stacking freight.
You obviously have Never attempted to move a Loaded Pallet into or out of a truck with a Hand Jack or a "Dolly". Your "2 wheeled dolly" suggestion is Laughable.
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This seems as good as place as any to post my two and half pages of notes (scribbles) of the first 15 minutes of the 41 minute oral history of Ken DuVall. I can still read most of my notes. Wherever Mr. DuVall speaks of his actions he uses 'we', as his co-worker apparently went where DuVall went. In this first 15 minutes Stephan Fagin (interviewer) tried twice to return to his observations of Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom In my opinion Mr. DuVall was somewhat vague and dismissive with that questioning. Please excuse the many spelling errors throughout the notes.
Are you a doctor?
Nobody can read their scribbles, either.
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My concern would be with the Truck(s): (1) Where the Truck(s) were Specifically located, and (2) Were the Truck(s) still there when the JFK Limo passed by the TSBD? Based on the notes above, It appears the truck(s) were there During the time period the JFK Limo passed by the TSBD. If a Truck is Large enough to run a fork lift into and out of it, it is Large in general. This would mean the roof of the Truck/Trailer would be High Above the ground. Depending on the location of the Truck, this High Ground position on the roof of the Truck/Trailer would be a Prime Sniper Location.
I don't give a fork
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For whatever reason You are Ignoring the Loading of product ONTO a truck. You are also Ignoring the possible Staging of product when a Forklift Unloaded it Off of a truck, and that same product then being relocated throughout the TSBD via Hand Jack(s). And then there is your Ignoring the possible Fork Lift loading of product onto the rail cars situated on the Railroad Spur behind the TSBD. Maybe the Trump Exoneration has you on the wrong side of the bed today?
Maybe the Trump Exoneration has you on the wrong side of the bed today?
Your heroes got up on the wrong side of the Constitution. They played a kind of political monopoly, giving themselves a free don't-go-to-jail pass.
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You obviously have Never attempted to move a Loaded Pallet into or out of a truck with a Hand Jack or a "Dolly". Your "2 wheeled dolly" suggestion is Laughable.
Really?, these guys seem to be having NO problems loading/unloading these trucks with a Hand Jack.
(https://www.hsssearch.co.uk/res/org0011/dfcf5615e7635454.jpg)
(https://www.johnstonequipment.com/-/media/dealers/johnston-equipment/images/bt-lift-trucks/bt-hpt-hero-1500x708.jpg?h=708&w=1500&la=en&hash=891B1E388D8A5A54E8B4EFB5B42A7C3043A3EB9C)
The Depository had a loading dock which provided access for rear unloading of trucks, which means that the stock was removed with a pallet jack or by hand.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DfLtmN19/tsbd-loading-dock.png)
An alternative is that larger trucks with curtains could be side unloaded with a forklift but how common were these type of trucks in 1963? Also a flatbed truck could transport the freight but without a roof the stock/books would be exposed to the elements?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rpIBElMXJbs/maxresdefault.jpg)
The stock which was in the Depository was mostly just piled up on the floor which means that the boxes were all moved by hand. Even stock near the Loading dock was just on the floor.
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/2/28/Photo_wcd496_0011.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/f/f3/Photo_wcd496_0013.jpg)
Besides the odd pallet, the majority of stock on the 6th floor was just on the floor.
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/3/35/Photo_wcd81-1_0099.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/7/78/Photo_wcd81-1_0101.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/5/5e/Photo_wcd81-1_0115.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/c/c9/Photo_wcd87_0009.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/bc/Photo_wcd87_0019.jpg)
Btw you know how we can tell that Royell is talking crap? His mouth is moving! Hahaha!
JohnM
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Really?, these guys seem to be having NO problems loading/unloading these trucks with a Hand Jack.
(https://www.hsssearch.co.uk/res/org0011/dfcf5615e7635454.jpg)
(https://www.johnstonequipment.com/-/media/dealers/johnston-equipment/images/bt-lift-trucks/bt-hpt-hero-1500x708.jpg?h=708&w=1500&la=en&hash=891B1E388D8A5A54E8B4EFB5B42A7C3043A3EB9C)
The Depository had a loading dock which provided access for rear unloading of trucks, which means that the stock was removed with a pallet jack or by hand.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DfLtmN19/tsbd-loading-dock.png)
An alternative is that larger trucks with curtains could be side unloaded with a forklift but how common were these type of trucks in 1963? Also a flatbed truck could transport the freight but without a roof the stock/books would be exposed to the elements?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rpIBElMXJbs/maxresdefault.jpg)
The stock which was in the Depository was mostly just piled up on the floor which means that the boxes were all moved by hand. Even stock near the Loading dock was just on the floor.
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/2/28/Photo_wcd496_0011.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/f/f3/Photo_wcd496_0013.jpg)
Besides the odd pallet, the majority of stock on the 6th floor was just on the floor.
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/3/35/Photo_wcd81-1_0099.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/7/78/Photo_wcd81-1_0101.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/5/5e/Photo_wcd81-1_0115.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/c/c9/Photo_wcd87_0009.jpg)
(https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/bc/Photo_wcd87_0019.jpg)
Btw you know how we can tell that Royell is talking crap? His mouth is moving! Hahaha!
JohnM
The Hand Jacks pictured are modern day. To get a better idea of what they were working with inside the TSBD in 1963, take a look at that dolly that was photographed close to the bottle of Dr Pepper near the snipers nest. That dolly was Nothing like the above pictured Hand Jacks. Not even remotely close, right down to the wheels. Regarding the boxes pictured sitting on the floor, those boxes are SPOTTED as a full pallet is wheeled around the floor by an antiquated Dolly. The major problem in using a "63" Hand Jack would be struggling to Drag every loaded pallet Up and Over the Dock Plate which runs between the dock and the truck.
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Are you a doctor?
Nobody can read their scribbles, either.
LOL! No, but mom once told me that she should have let stay a lefty. Who knows. Have you tried reading the notes with a mirror? ::)
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The Hand Jacks pictured are modern day. To get a better idea of what they were working with inside the TSBD in 1963, take a look at that dolly that was photographed close to the bottle of Dr Pepper near the snipers nest. That dolly was Nothing like the above pictured Hand Jacks. Not even remotely close, right down to the wheels. Regarding the boxes pictured sitting on the floor, those boxes are SPOTTED as a full pallet is wheeled around the floor by an antiquated Dolly. The major problem in using a "63" Hand Jack would be struggling to Drag every loaded pallet Up and Over the Dock Plate which runs between the dock and the truck.
The Hand Jacks pictured are modern day.
No kidding Einstein, but you implied that it was laughable to unload a truck with a "hand jack" and you were wrong.
To get a better idea of what they were working with inside the TSBD in 1963, take a look at that dolly that was photographed close to the bottle of Dr Pepper near the snipers nest.
I already showed the lack of pallets on the upper floors, so what point are you trying to make? Btw pallet jacks have been available as far back as 1918 as seen in this issue of Popular Science.
(https://i.postimg.cc/02hpB9t3/pallet-jack-1918.png)
That dolly was Nothing like the above pictured Hand Jacks.
Listening is clearly not your forte, as I have repeatedly stated and shown with photos, that the stock on the 6th floor was virtually exclusively just placed on the floor so a hand jack was not needed on the upper floors and the boxes were just moved with trolleys.
Not even remotely close, right down to the wheels.
Right down to the wheels you say, do go on?
Regarding the boxes pictured sitting on the floor, those boxes are SPOTTED as a full pallet is wheeled around the floor by an antiquated Dolly.
Cite?
The major problem in using a "63" Hand Jack would be struggling to Drag every loaded pallet Up and Over the Dock Plate which runs between the dock and the truck.
Hand Jacks available today don't have motorized wheels, so explain why you see a problem?
JohnM
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John - In 1963: (1) the TSBD Hand Jacks were antiquated, (2) The TSBD Dock Plates were antiquated, (3) The TSBD Docks were antiquated. You obviously have no idea how a 1963 dock plate even worked. The pictures of Hand Jacks and Docks that you posted are worthless in relation to what was being used in 1963. Night vs Day equipment.
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LOL! No, but mom once told me that she should have let stay a lefty. Who knows. Have you tried reading the notes with a mirror? ::)
Nah. Only Leonardo's.
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You obviously have Never attempted to move a Loaded Pallet into or out of a truck with a Hand Jack or a "Dolly". Your "2 wheeled dolly" suggestion is Laughable.
You are correct that I never attempted to move a weight bearing "Loaded Pallet" into or out of a truck, or a trailer, with a 2-Wheel HandTruck/Dolly. However, I have moved tons of freight daily using a 2-Wheel HandTruck/Dolly. But, I do not know what your "Hand Jack" reference is meant to indicate. Or, is that perhaps meant as a reference to a Pallet Jack?
I would not think it a good idea to stack pallets loaded with cardboard boxes containing books. And, to me that indicates pallet movement could be accomplished with a Pallet Jack.
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You are correct that I never attempted to move a weight bearing "Loaded Pallet" into or out of a truck, or a trailer, with a 2-Wheel HandTruck/Dolly. However, I have moved tons of freight daily using a 2-Wheel HandTruck/Dolly. But, I do not know what your "Hand Jack" reference is meant to indicate. Or, is that perhaps meant as a reference to a Pallet Jack?
I would not think it a good idea to stack pallets loaded with cardboard boxes containing books. And, to me that indicates pallet movement could be accomplished with a Pallet Jack.
You mention moving "tons of freight daily", but you do Not mention doing this while Completely Loading or Unloading a Freight Truck. A legit Freight Truck is Not unloaded with a 2 wheeled Hand Dolly like we see used to unload a run-of-the-mill U-Haul Moving Van. The Size/Depth of the TSBD Loading dock area tells you the size and load capacity of trucks being received at the TSBD. A Hand Jack has nothing but the user to power it forward or backward. Lifting a load up from the ground requires the user to pump the handle of the hand jack up-n-down. They usually have a max height off the ground of somewhere around 5-6 inches. There is No battery to power the lifting of pallets Up from the ground. The raising is kinda like we see with a floor jack slid underneath a car.
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You mention moving "tons of freight daily", but you do Not mention doing this while Completely Loading or Unloading a Freight Truck. A legit Freight Truck is Not unloaded with a 2 wheeled Hand Dolly like we see used to unload a run-of-the-mill U-Haul Moving Van. The Size/Depth of the TSBD Loading dock area tells you the size and load capacity of trucks being received at the TSBD. A Hand Jack has nothing but the user to power it forward or backward. Lifting a load up from the ground requires the user to pump the handle of the hand jack up-n-down. They usually have a max height off the ground of somewhere around 5-6 inches. There is No battery to power the lifting of pallets Up from the ground. The raising is kinda like we see with a floor jack slid underneath a car.
Oh, where to begin a response? So, perhaps some discussion ending questions.
Since the books at the TexasSchoolBookDepository had an ultimate destination to schools, do you, MrStoring, have any estimate about the number of schools in '63, in Texas, that had loading/unloading docks? Do you have any estimate about the number of schools in '63, in Texas, that had Forklifts? And, do you have any estimate about the number of schools in '63, in Texas, that were equipped with elevators when there were two or more floor levels?
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Oh, where to begin a response? So, perhaps some discussion ending questions.
Since the books at the TexasSchoolBookDepository had an ultimate destination to schools, do you, MrStoring, have any estimate about the number of schools in '63, in Texas, that had loading/unloading docks? Do you have any estimate about the number of schools in '63, in Texas, that had Forklifts? And, do you have any estimate about the number of schools in '63, in Texas, that were equipped with elevators when there were two or more floor levels?
It is highly doubtful that books were delivered DIRECTLY from the TSBD to individual schools. I have lived in several states and they All had their own Distribution Center from which school supplies were distributed to each individual school as needed. This distribution was done by Vans or Trucks along the lines of a UPS Brown Truck. Loading docks and elevators physically being part of a school would be a Dangerous Liability.