No shot exited the throat. BS:
Absolutely no idea what happened to it, possibly lost velocity going through the windshield and lodged in the throat ? Or fell out on route to parkland and was the bullet the secret service agent found in the limo? Parkland doctors stated it was a neat entry wound to the throat about a pinkie size opening. I believe and entry wound more than the SBT exiting the throat ! You ?But there is no bullet hole in the windshield at the time JFK jerked his balled up hands and arms up to his chest/neck. I assume if he got shot in the throat/neck that he would react to it? Grab it? Be moved back? Something?
Absolutely no idea what happened to it, possibly lost velocity going through the windshield and lodged in the throat ? Or fell out on route to parkland and was the bullet the secret service agent found in the limo? Parkland doctors stated it was a neat entry wound to the throat about a pinkie size opening. I believe and entry wound more than the SBT exiting the throat ! You ?
No shot exited the throat. BS:
False. First shot to strike JFK exited his throat.
No shot exited the throat. BS:
Absolutely no idea what happened to it, possibly lost velocity going through the windshield and lodged in the throat ? Or fell out on route to parkland and was the bullet the secret service agent found in the limo? Parkland doctors stated it was a neat entry wound to the throat about a pinkie size opening. I believe and entry wound more than the SBT exiting the throat ! You ?
The shooter on the Dal Tex building roof can be seen in the Zapruder film. He is responsible for the shot that exists the throat.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qocTuHg-KiOBw9WPWBQe8Hr_tB8TmtlOdgY1MFRoFz6lpiE8TLTzdVUlgcatdSWvxieZV2l8evwb_iBneu5PC1UFGlOXEEZoxS6UWfZgJtx-YB3NSJmJc7IKe17O1Hex20JNK804TRzCF5Sho9YzgL-HrY4e8FhxK6dsoKlR73SqugbV2XdI7cwW3F7YbA1QT7Vp58wpij3FcMU3t5QBUVYcTIYwPbfw6SvGRImoV-0DwGDS9tGZg_6DlE7J92g1Tps0dw4m_gxS7ZSVzJl5tmhvEfBwyx4KCOjFEV30tszpicaDtVpnvPc24VW1h1GtJzZsX15CyUx-KgIWRuuGG90uuSv7k9ltAYwqVQFIqggM99jd-2iCjXUwgNIvN0FA_JSxgDrVyr5hr2mlyQY3a8wjp1A8nquuPY73DNEczkbuHJLnTXVxE14TqE-pRKlNaR3lTZP0_K_weMZMvrV8KQ3qS3t9y4bGAvzpAfshnBft6L2CyOdj9YrLqtDWXcrYstJTckxKr1eIlHY_a-AYTrAKEwSD3riRDww0Yly_GHeC3E-TgXCJRtzeJc89qkCYRYj8iRpS1WMfdkuNeex8C8F5zsVOFD0RL0L89EZSEsVQkvchVvBeYqVt6UwEIWNiDXXh3UpY9XRxWEB_JyGKdRDpcV7n9gP9WvE_IkmBbrdIACEEhqut2vHjnxkJRcvHnTiwB0ClvEttmF_qFRrMq69bChg8R229RKWx1-6lbffmG_E=w700-h735-no)
This is the photo from Time Life... in case anyone tries to accuse me of inserting people into photos. And yes I marked where the gunman is because some people have bad eyes.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/G7NbYi4SjAScCBaNJFLGlSVbq-5e7gbfL76AMnaqfDlr48oEmCP_Pw2Qlw65lj7KcfuAQnCHiFKWTiEBocluwAuUQle4_9Zv18tUs7DMHD_-cETxovlXYv2D2SzmTAeQOJw5X_9sPH5O5fF20YHHhQVZWpSkuXIVwCZnN-15AvygUgGJd6rctT574U0UW6935y5R8Le9dwzzT51rURzzBFsgn_W5VWzSWyCAMOcup8P3gI3LbJ6ct41F4dIm_rpM18LPn-iu3FYYioIFZl79uQrG9DHXn0uZ4SUY6MbRH5J1G2YwO0uIVpcz797fSJgpmLHMJ26oB6i4pQIlyfg5IEreajdeyxTqFLNFcIpNPiCb-KI3OrvPWLnBfpqW87XmE-jUNGLAVa2AcDUXy3WdAByHGdo0fFVS1294aJTSQVth6PvjPi9IC11z66-AZSMuwbyj4ZVrIW-ZU76iPcyAlvYF83PpPtJFkewmUxp865JptUtiWhe1ErPi6k9BEgfPag4CxhRipcUWehyIcZbzCZpZFzBJshV_2Anm1OO6PLUjMUZR6jhZ7eandqxG3xcDZUG9Vah1l3VjWwkiya0tB96VVBrpBMwgwML717ljJIJ1qCkGxnlkqncUJoZGXauvT2GDyA-6VepN_95PnZSPotX1spS5sGFyqXu7bVX7quA0JmSFFCClibgusp8wUHfDFBxFpypiLoPcvwkYHs_P1kyYw1K9luXigfLTYUjzxSGSvqw=w1280-h720-no)
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It's good the CTs have their own photo interpretation and trajectory experts.
(https://sites.google.com/site/lightboxzframes/lightbox/leadup/0-06.jpg) (https://sites.google.com/site/lightboxzframes//lightbox/z200-z249/z238.jpg) (https://sites.google.com/site/lightboxzframes/lightbox/z400-z486/z451.jpg)
That "Dal Tex Gunman" sure is persistent.
But there is no bullet hole in the windshield at the time JFK jerked his balled up hands and arms up to his chest/neck. I assume if he got shot in the throat/neck that he would react to it? Grab it? Be moved back? Something?
And what happened to the bullet that hit him in the back? Did that disappear too? I mean, two vanishing bullets is difficult to understand. And the bullet that hit Connally seemed to have been tumbling. What caused that to tumble?
When/where on the Zapruder film did this shot occur? We can see him react after he emerges from behind the highway sign, circa Z-223, and then when he is hit in the head at Z-313. Where did this shot that hit in the neck/throat take place?
(https://johnkimber.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/jfk-car-altgens-6-s.jpg?w=640&h=376)
I guess we all should try to remember that none of these new things being found are real. Why? Because the old men that have been studying this case for 50 years can't fathom how they could of missed things that simple. Even though all of these photos and videos are the same ones they had access to.
Like these 2 men with rifles in the pergola. Just forget the fact that of all the places for an assassin to be, that was the prime spot. Hell, that's where I would have been too. Not just for concealability, but because of the ease to get in and out. But I wouldn't expect squares to understand that. And forget the fact that witnesses saw smoke in this same exact spot, or that shells were found there too. Why? Because 2 + 2 can't equal 4. Ignore Zapruders testimony about believing the shooters were behind him as well. And all the people, including cops who ran in that direction. But most of all, ignore the fact that the head shot lines up perfectly with the pergola window. The 2 men clearly holding rifles are just a figment of conspiracy theorists imagination. And all the witnesses too. What you really see is just thumb print damage.
See... this only looks like 2 men with rifles. But the super smart old people know it's just thumb print damage.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3xBMRj5CLQ9kYrxC8
Yes, thump print damage can wear sun glasses too. Don't act like you never seen it before.
And so what if you can see them in other photos and videos... like this one here.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VBYwXSEg1EQZSf8W6
They still don't exist. Just a magical trick by awful mean conspiracy theorists, right? Never believe your own eyes is great motto to live by. Always listen to the people who pretend they know everything but can't even solve a puzzle, because that's how cases get solved. As we've seen with this one over the last 50+ years.
And like the last genius points out, there was no Dal Tex roof shooter. Forget the fact some worker actually found shells on that roof. Or the fact the exact camera model Zapruder was using had a million complaints due to the reflections caused by its concave lens.
Nope! This is your man right here. Posing like a genius with all the evidence so he wouldn't get busted. Which must be why he used a fake name and went all the way across town to avoid detection when purchasing the rifle he would later pose with. "Yeah...can't let anyone know I bought it, so I better pose with it, while holding up a communist manifesto too, just in case someone is too stupid to figure it out."
1 man. 10 shots. 1 kill.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/F1WnE9Qj8V8zoriKA
"I don't wanna get caught so I better leave my finger prints everywhere to make it easy for the cops!!" Thumb1:
Yup. All the witnesses are wrong. Your own eyes wrong. But these funny old men who haven't found a shred of evidence on their own in 50 years time are right. Thanks for setting record straight guys. Now that you've cracked the case the rest of the world needs you. 8)
Seriously. If gullibility were a disease, America would be on lock down. To think all it takes is a few pieces of intentionally left evidence to fool a majority of the people into believing the absurd.
"Oh it couldn't have been a conspiracy... because those things don't exist. There's no such thing as dirty copy, or bad people." Bravo!
I guess we all should try to remember that none of these new things being found are real. Why? Because the old men that have been studying this case for 50 years can't fathom how they could of missed things that simple. Even though all of these photos and videos are the same ones they had access to.
Like these 2 men with rifles in the pergola. Just forget the fact that of all the places for an assassin to be, that was the prime spot. Hell, that's where I would have been too. Not just for concealability, but because of the ease to get in and out. But I wouldn't expect squares to understand that. And forget the fact that witnesses saw smoke in this same exact spot, or that shells were found there too. Why? Because 2 + 2 can't equal 4. Ignore Zapruders testimony about believing the shooters were behind him as well. And all the people, including cops who ran in that direction. But most of all, ignore the fact that the head shot lines up perfectly with the pergola window. The 2 men clearly holding rifles are just a figment of conspiracy theorists imagination. And all the witnesses too. What you really see is just thumb print damage.
See... this only looks like 2 men with rifles. But the super smart old people know it's just thumb print damage.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3xBMRj5CLQ9kYrxC8
Yes, thump print damage can wear sun glasses too. Don't act like you never seen it before.
And so what if you can see them in other photos and videos... like this one here.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VBYwXSEg1EQZSf8W6
They still don't exist. Just a magical trick by awful mean conspiracy theorists, right? Never believe your own eyes is great motto to live by. Always listen to the people who pretend they know everything but can't even solve a puzzle, because that's how cases get solved. As we've seen with this one over the last 50+ years.
And like the last genius points out, there was no Dal Tex roof shooter. Forget the fact some worker actually found shells on that roof. Or the fact the exact camera model Zapruder was using had a million complaints due to the reflections caused by its concave lens.
Nope! This is your man right here. Posing like a genius with all the evidence so he wouldn't get busted. Which must be why he used a fake name and went all the way across town to avoid detection when purchasing the rifle he would later pose with. "Yeah...can't let anyone know I bought it, so I better pose with it, while holding up a communist manifesto too, just in case someone is too stupid to figure it out."
1 man. 10 shots. 1 kill.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/F1WnE9Qj8V8zoriKA
"I don't wanna get caught so I better leave my finger prints everywhere to make it easy for the cops!!" Thumb1:
Yup. All the witnesses are wrong. Your own eyes wrong. But these funny old men who haven't found a shred of evidence on their own in 50 years time are right. Thanks for setting record straight guys. Now that you've cracked the case the rest of the world needs you. 8)
Seriously. If gullibility were a disease, America would be on lock down. To think all it takes is a few pieces of intentionally left evidence to fool a majority of the people into believing the absurd.
"Oh it couldn't have been a conspiracy... because those things don't exist. There's no such thing as dirty copy, or bad people." Bravo!
The supposed image of the DalTex shooter appears in the same spot as late as frame 481. At that point Zapruder is facing about 170 degrees away from the DalTex. It is absolutely completely impossible for any image from the DalTex to enter the lens of Zapruders camera when he is facing 170 degrees away from it. It is even more absurd to think the image would appear in the same location on the film after panning even 30 degrees let alone 170 degrees. This theory was originally about the jail and court building as it has light posts that somewhat match the shape in the Z film. Still there is no way for that image to enter the camera at frame 481. No reflection of the front housing of the lens could account for an image from Houston and Elm.
Yup, sorry, it was originally about the records building and I called it the jail and courthouse.
Not sure why you asked if I thought the whole Z film was a hoax. My point was the image near the sprocket is not an image of a gunman on any of the buildings mentioned. At frame 481 there is no way for any image from those buildings to end up on film. even when you consider light rays entering by bouncing off the end of the lens housing, that light source(The records building) could be no more than 90 degrees away from Z's line of sight to frame 481. After that there is no path for light from there too make its way into the camera.
If you draw a line representing Z's line of sight from the pedestal to the limo position in frame 481(basically the underpass), then draw a line at Z's location that is perpendicular to the first line it will denote what was 90 degrees off from Z's line of sight at frame 481. Any position west of that 2nd line(Less than 90 degrees) could conceivably hit the lens housing and bounce its way onto the film. But everything east of that line(more than 90 degrees) has no path to the lens at all. That 2nd line extends from the pedestal to the south peristyle between Main and Commerce. Any light source East of that has no path to enter the camera.
But I think the even greater problem is the fact that while the shooter image stays in the same place as the camera pans almost 180 degrees, every other object recorded moves across the screen as Z panned right. even if the shooter image was from a stray reflection bouncing into the camera it would be impossible for it to remain stationary.
More blobs being interpreted as gunmen.
Neat....with muzzle blast and all.
Not saying the image was planted there. The general opinion about it is that it is the result of a internal reflection from the shutter mechanism. Maybe that is right or maybe wrong but I think the natural explanation makes more sense than it actually being an image from the roof. That is because it is absolutely impossible for any image of Houston and Elm to pass through the cameras lens. Nothing North of Main on Houston could have ever found its way into the lens as late as frame 481.
I would challenge anyone to draw a ray diagram of light going from the Records building to the lens and into the lens. Light ray diagrams are simple and straight forward. When light reflects of an object the angle it hits at is the angle it bounces off at. Like how you calculate the path of a pool ball that bounces off the cushion. The angle of reflection equals the angle of incidence. It is impossible to find a path in which light from the records building could ever up on the negative at frame 481. That is just a simple fact of light reflection.
Yes. It is imperative to get the correct building. Which is why I don't understand people can't. People obviously don't know how to pay attention to details. The reflection of the roof shooter shows him standing on a building with square windows. Does the records building have square windows? It also shows a lighter color strip that goes around the roof. The records building is white with long windows that start in the middle. So the shooter wasn't on the records building.
Like you said. It's imperative to get it right!
So what's visible in these three combined film frames if it's not a shooter ? : https://photos.app.goo.gl/i7vy3NVBf6J4bWrk8 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/i7vy3NVBf6J4bWrk8)
Rgds,
Christer
You just insulted my intelligence with such a ridiculous, idiotic blob of nothing that you claim shows a "gunman".
People like you simply cannot--and are not-taken seriously. I can just see this in a courtroom! Everyone in the room would burst out in laughter, and the judge would throw the case out!
Please don't try this stuff on people. It's nothing but insulting and childish.
Steve, I agree the gunman would not have just sat there. But we don't even need the speculation because remaining in the same place while the camera pans is a physical impossibility. Absolute proof that is not a natural artifact of an image coming through the lens.
Or something which a photographic laboratory has pasted in afterwards within most of the frames in addition to the actual few frames that actually reveals a shooter..
Best Rgds, Christer
The idea that the entire team was trying to plant evidence of fakery is completely opposite to the purpose of the task.
I guess that if one team sucessfully managed to assassinate the president and another team to manipulate the autopsy as well as the whole chain of evidence then an additional team wouldn't have insurmountable difficulties to alter a number of film frames...Oh I think it's very possible and likely that the film was altered. Possibly removing a short limo stop and a hole in the back of his head and the debris that went backwards. Again that's just a possibility and a personal opinion.
Oh I think it's very possible and likely that the film was altered. Possibly removing a short limo stop and a hole in the back of his head and the debris that went backwards. Again that's just a possibility and a personal opinion.
I mentioned several theories and I'm not sure which one you adhere to. But someone posited the idea that they placed multiple images of the shooter in the film to give a hint about the conspiracy. That's a theory I don't accept.
I have been learning elements of photogrammetry in a piecemeal way but it has allowed me to debunk a couple dozen claims that the Zapruder film shows multiple alterations. Still I think there are a couple issues that have great Merit. I am still a conspiracy theorist.