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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Duncan MacRae on December 06, 2019, 11:53:41 AM

Title: The JFK Limo Gallery
Post by: Duncan MacRae on December 06, 2019, 11:53:41 AM
The JFK Limo Gallery
To visit Robin's JFK Limo Gallery, click this link https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=30 (https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=30) or click on the image example below.


(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/H__Warner_King8.jpg) (https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=30)
Title: Re: The JFK Limo Gallery
Post by: Jerry Organ on December 06, 2019, 02:54:08 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/4YQjFX8/Hum3-D-my-model-comparison-nov2019.jpg)

Not perfect, but my model is hitting more match points than the commercial model.

I suspect Hum3D scanned a replica limousine and that was it. When you put in two years revisiting your model and you have a genuine interest in the subject, things tend to get better.
Title: Re: The JFK Limo Gallery
Post by: Michael Walton on December 06, 2019, 03:01:49 PM
So what's the goal of your model, Jerry? Genuinely curious.
Title: Re: The JFK Limo Gallery
Post by: Jerry Organ on December 06, 2019, 03:35:46 PM
So what's the goal of your model, Jerry? Genuinely curious.

If we're going to do wound and assassination-photo recreation, we need reasonably accurate models. Mine aren't there and may never be. I've hit a technology ceiling with my computer.

Meanwhile, soak it up with Cartoon Ernie and his Hum3D model. ( Link (http://jfk.boards.net/thread/187/dale-myer-zapruder-lapel-flip) )

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49240043113_3e37965471_c.jpg)
Title: Re: The JFK Limo Gallery
Post by: Royell Storing on December 06, 2019, 09:27:25 PM
If we're going to do wound and assassination-photo recreation, we need reasonably accurate models. Mine aren't there and may never be. I've hit a technology ceiling with my computer.

Meanwhile, soak it up with Cartoon Ernie and his Hum3D model. ( Link (https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/thread/38/announcing-1st-deliverables-numbers-pledge) )

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/44708397612_98880c3a01_z.jpg)

   Aside from this being kinda weird, why is it there is Never a Back Rest on Connally's jump seat when this is done? There is scant clearance between the back rest and the underarm/armpit of Connally. The Connally back rest further complicates the SBT.
Title: Re: The JFK Limo Gallery
Post by: Jerry Organ on December 07, 2019, 12:24:26 AM
   Aside from this being kinda weird, why is it there is Never a Back Rest on Connally's jump seat when this is done? There is scant clearance between the back rest and the underarm/armpit of Connally. The Connally back rest further complicates the SBT.

(https://i.ibb.co/Yb3nD9J/nellie-seat-back-height.jpg)

The top of the jump-seat-back is several inches below Connally's armpit area and so did not interfere with the bullet path.

See where the top of Nellie's seat-back is in the above photo; it can be seen in the side-window of the parade bar. The Governor's seat-back is the same height.

(http://ss100x.com/LIMO1961.jpg)  (https://stumptownblogger.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b86d36970c01b7c8b2a5aa970b-800wi)
Title: Re: The JFK Limo Gallery
Post by: Royell Storing on December 07, 2019, 01:01:09 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/Yb3nD9J/nellie-seat-back-height.jpg)

The top of the jump-seat-back is several inches below Connally's armpit area and so did not interfere with the bullet path.

See where the top of Nellie's seat-back is in the above photo; it can be seen in the side-window of the parade bar. The Governor's seat-back is the same height.

(http://ss100x.com/LIMO1961.jpg)  (https://stumptownblogger.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b86d36970c01b7c8b2a5aa970b-800wi)

    Thanks. Now it would be interesting to actual see the clearance between the top of the back rest and where the bullet entered Connolly at about the arm pit level. Also, the visual aid you supplied shows Connally being struck while turned to his right with his (R) arm actually behind him. This depiction is Contrary to Connally's recollection of being struck amidst turning to his Left and his looking almost straight ahead.
Title: Re: The JFK Limo Gallery
Post by: Jerry Organ on December 07, 2019, 01:21:27 AM
    Thanks. Now it would be interesting to actual see the clearance between the top of the back rest and where the bullet entered Connolly at about the arm pit level. Also, the visual aid you supplied shows Connally being struck while turned to his right with his (R) arm actually behind him. This depiction is Contrary to Connally's recollection of being struck amidst turning to his Left and his looking almost straight ahead.

Plenty of clearance. Nellie is facing forward and the top of the seat-back is well below her armpit. Connally's left shoulder and torso are facing more forward than Kellerman is. Compare the Governor's left shoulder height with the top of Nellie's seat-back. His right shoulder bought to his side would be no higher or lower than the left shoulder seen in the photo.



(http://www.kenrahn.com/Marsh/Puzzle_Palace/Baughman.jpg)
Title: Re: The JFK Limo Gallery
Post by: Jerry Organ on December 10, 2019, 11:19:01 PM
(https://sites.google.com/site/jfkforum/neckwound/connally-jumpseat-back-height.jpg)