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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Thomas Graves on May 26, 2019, 05:42:16 AM
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Quoting mwt exactly as he posted, although I haven't thoroughly read of any obligation to, speaks volumes.
IOW....
Scully,
Point being?
-- MWT ;)
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Try posting it again?
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Try posting it again?
If he was paranoid before he posted it, he is likely to be even more paranoid now. 😁
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Someone, please tell Thomas that the mud he's been 'wrassling' in is actually BS. :D :D :D
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Someone, please tell Thomas that the mud he's been 'wrassling' in is actually BS.
The KGB and the DGI were humanitarian organizations!
And, and, and ... Khrushchev and Castro had no reason to want charasmatic anti-communist Kennedy dead, or for LBJ to take his place to ... to ... to ... Hasten The Dialectics!
LOL
-- MWT ;)
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Scully,
Point being?
-- MWT ;)
....[Verse 3]
Have you come here for forgiveness?
Have you come to raise the dead?
Have you come here to play Jesus
To the lepers in your head?
[Chorus 3]
Did I ask too much? More than a lot
You gave me nothing, now it's all I got
https://ocweekly.com/crack-cop-6389255/
NICK SCHOU | POSTED ONJULY 12, 2001
The CIA has always denied it used drug traffickers to raise cash for Ronald Reagan's 1980s war against the Nicaraguan Sandinista government. But FBI documents recently released to the OC Weekly show that a former top agency official met throughout that period with Ronald J. Lister, an ex-Laguna Beach cop who claimed to be the CIA's link between the South American cocaine trade, the Nicaraguan contras and LA's most notorious drug trafficker.
The FBI documents, five heavily censored pages released in response to the Weekly's 1997 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the CIA, concern Lister and William Earl Nelson, a vice president for security with the Irvine-based construction giant Fluor Corp. Nelson's previous job: deputy director of operations for the CIA. Nelson retired from the CIA in 1976 amid heated controversy over its ill-fated forays into Chile and Angola—clandestine operations that Nelson supervised from his office at the CIA's Langley, Virginia, headquarters.
Lister's relationship with the Fluor executive began in 1978. How they met isn't clear, thanks to government censors. But the documents do show that Nelson told FBI agents he met with Lister three to four times per year until 1985 and discussed various business ventures, including one in Central America.
It's unclear from the documents what became of that project—FBI censors blocked out the details, arguing that revealing them might compromise U.S. national security. But independent sources suggest the deal probably involved Lister's mysteriously well-connected security company, Newport Beach-based Pyramid International Security Consultants Inc......
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The KGB and the DGI were humanitarian organizations!
And, and, and ... Khrushchev and Castro had no reason to want charasmatic anti-communist Kennedy dead, or for LBJ to take his place to ... to ... to ... Hasten The Dialectics!
LOL
-- MWT ;)
...And Putin is a very nice man.
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...And Putin is a very nice man.
I know that you and Oliver Stone love him, Mike. And the humanitarian KGB in which he was a counter-intelligenge lieutenant colonel, too!
So much nicer that the evil, evil, evil CIA, right, comrade?
You gonna try to hide my posts here like you did at the James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio-run EF, Mike? Gonna invite Paz here so you can tag-team me, again?
(Btw, is she still taking it up the you-know-what, as she appears to be doing in her EF photo?)
Gonna run to "Kathy Beckett," here, or James "The Poser" Gordon, there, like you used to do after baiting me and then quickly deleting your posts?
-- Tommy ;)
PS Do you still not believe that I saw Chuck Berry give a free concert in a medieval square in Brno, Czech Republic, in 1996?
Okay, then, how about the full eclipse of the sun from a beautiful, slightly inclined meadow in Hungary in 1999?
"Gotta post ticket stubs or it didn't happen"?
Ever get around to reading one of the most important non-fiction books ever written -- Spy Wars, by your bugbear, Tennent H. Bagley?
https://archive.org/details/SpyWarsMolesMysteriesAndDeadlyGames/page/n3
Tried to, but there were way too many Russian names in it for your tastes?
Okay, then, how about at least reading chapter 10 of Mark Riebling's 1994 book, Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA?
It's free-to-read on the Internet, too.
https://archive.org/details/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity/page/n2
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I know that you and Oliver Stone love him, Mike. And the humanitarian KGB in which he was a counter-intelligenge lieutenant colonel, too!
So much nicer that the evil, evil, evil CIA, right, comrade?
You gonna try to hide my posts here like you did at the James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio-run EF, Mike? Gonna invite Paz here so you can tag-team me, again?
(Btw, is she still taking it up the you-know-what, you know, like she looks like she's doing in her EF photo?)
-- Tommy ;)
Do you look over your shoulder every time you turn a corner?
Please get help!
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Martin,
Like Mike, Oliver Stone and James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio, do you love Vladimir Putin and loathe the evil, evil, evil Deep State/Military Industrial Intelligence Community Complex?
-- MWT ;)
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Martin,
Like Mike, Oliver Stone and James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio, do you love Vladimir Putin and loathe the evil, evil, evil Deep State/Military Industrial Intelligence Community Complex?
-- MWT ;)
How does considering you to be a pathetic paranoid even tell you anything about what I love or not?
But the answer to you question is; No
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How does considering you to be a pathetic paranoid even tell you anything about what I love or not?
But the answer to you question is; No
Dear Martin,
What have I posted here since I joined about a year ago (other than my tongue-in-cheek post that started this thread) that has led you to conclude that I'm a "pathetic paranoid"?
My belief that the KGB and/or the DGI killed JFK?
If not that, what?
Are you capable of debating it with me?
Or only of hurling lame epithets?
-- MWT ;)
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The Russkies didn't do it. Tom Graves conveniently leaves out many other factors in the case where it'd be nearly impossible or a million in one chance of the murder taking place with the Russkies involved. He simply bears down - and bears down hard - on one little episode in October in Mexico City, and then transposes that to the entire assassination. If you think about it, it's really quite funny.
And see his previous replies here. Because someone disagrees with him about his Russkies theory, he then changes tactics and says xxxx like "You must love Oliver Stone" or "You must love Putin." Before it was deleted, Graves posted a Despise List, which was quite revealing at the time. Put another way, his investigative acumen here is terribly biased. Yet, he uses that same tactic ("You must love...") as a defense of his theory. Ridiculous.
Also, some of my posts have been deleted as well so don't feel too bad. I asked the admin about this. I basically said it's not my fault that there are crazies on this board that need a non-crazy reply to their posts.
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Dear Martin,
What have I posted here since I joined about a year ago (other than my tongue-in-cheek post that started this thread) that has led you to conclude that I'm a "pathetic paranoid"?
My belief that the KGB and/or the DGI killed JFK?
If not that, what?
Are you capable of debating it with me?
Or only of hurling lame epithets?
-- MWT ;)
Your posts shows you to be a one trick pony. The Russian somehow being involved in just about everything, including the "hack" of this forum (if there was one) seems a bit paranoid to me.
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Your posts shows you to be a one trick pony. The Russian somehow being involved in just about everything, including the "hack" of this forum (if there was one) seems a bit paranoid to me.
Walton, Dear Martin,
Have you been following events in the U.S. for the last ten years, or so?
Have you heard of the eleven or twelve-person "Anna Chapman Spy Ring" that was finally rolled up in 2010?
Have you heard about how Russia's GRU hacked the DNC's computers in 2016, and gave thousands of stolen emails to Julian "I Never Say Anything Bad About Russia" Assange for him to release at critical moments in the campaign?
Have you heard about Putin's Saint Petersburg Troll Factory, and how it worked 24/7 during the campaign to spread targeted anti-Clinton/pro-Trump fake news and propaganda through American social media?
Ever heard of Konstantin Kilimnik, Joseph Misfud, Carter Page?
Or do you dismiss all of that (and lots, lots more) in deference to Bill Binney, Julian Assange, Alex Jones, Danny Bongino, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio, Jefferson "Intellectually Dishonest" Morley, and/or Donald "Useful Idiot" Trump?
-- MWT :)
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Walton,
Have you been following events in the U.S. for the last ten years, or so?
Have you heard of the eleven or twelve-person "Anna Chapman Spy Ring" that was finally rolled up in 2010?
Have you heard about how Russia's GRU hacked the DNC's computers in 2016, and gave thousands of stolen emails to Julian "I Never Say Anything Bad About Russia" Assange for him to release at critical moments in the campaign?
Have you heard about Putin's Saint Petersburg Troll Factory, and how it worked 24/7 during the campaign to spread targeted anti-Clinton/pro-Trump fake news and propaganda through American social media?
Ever heard of Konstantin Kilimnik, Joseph Misfud, Carter Page?
Or do you dismiss all of that (and lots, lots more) in deference to Bill Binney, Julian Assange, Alex Jones, Danny Bongino, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio, Jefferson "Intellectually Dishonest" Morley, and/or Donald "Useful Idiot" Trump?
-- MWT :)
First of all, my name isn't Walton
Secondly, this black or white, are you with me or against me, crap;
Or do you dismiss all of that (and lots, lots more) in deference to Bill Binney, Julian Assange, Alex Jones, Danny Bongino, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio, Jefferson "Intellectually Dishonest" Morley, and/or Donald "Useful Idiot" Trump?
not only doesn't work but it also makes an extremely weak impression.
Of course the Russians aren't choir boys but neither are we, when it comes to international politics.
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I know that you and Oliver Stone love him, Mike. And the humanitarian KGB in which he was a counter-intelligenge lieutenant colonel, too!
So much nicer that the evil, evil, evil CIA, right, comrade?
You gonna try to hide my posts here like you did at the James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio-run EF, Mike? Gonna invite Paz here so you can tag-team me, again?
(Btw, is she still taking it up the you-know-what, as she appears to be doing in her EF photo?)
Gonna run to "Kathy Beckett," here, or James "The Poser" Gordon, there, like you used to do after baiting me and then quickly deleting your posts?
-- Tommy ;)
PS Do you still not believe that I saw Chuck Berry give a free concert in a medieval square in Brno, Czech Republic, in 1996?
Okay, then, how about the full eclipse of the sun from a beautiful, slightly inclined meadow in Hungary in 1999?
"Gotta post ticket stubs or it didn't happen"?
Ever get around to reading one of the most important non-fiction books ever written -- Spy Wars, by your bugbear, Tennent H. Bagley?
https://archive.org/details/SpyWarsMolesMysteriesAndDeadlyGames/page/n3
Tried to, but there were way too many Russian names in it for your tastes?
Okay, then, how about at least reading chapter 10 of Mark Riebling's 1994 book, Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA?
It's free-to-read on the Internet, too.
https://archive.org/details/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity/page/n2
Muddy Professor,
I ask questions, I don’t answer them. Not from you anyway.
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Of course the Russians aren't choir boys but neither are we, when it comes to international politics.
Dear Martin,
Do you, like most JFK Assassination CTers, believe we live in an evil "Deep State"?
-- MWT ;)
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Muddy Professor,
I ask questions, I don’t answer them. Not from you anyway.
Mike,
Because you simply can't, or because you're simply unable to?
-- Tommy ;)
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Mike,
Because you can't, or because you're unable to?
-- Tommy ;)
Tom,
I just wanted to call you Tom.
That is all, Tom.
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Tom,
I just wanted to call you Tom.
That is all, Tom.
In other words, you're really good at slinging xxxx at people with whom you vehemently disagree, but are incapable of articulating why you disagree with them, especially if they've laid out some evidence and recent discoveries which suggest that Khrushchev and/or Castro were behind the assassination of JFK.
It appears that you either refuse to read (or did read but have decided to completely ignore) what Tennent H. Bagley (who was a LNer, btw) wrote in his 2007 book Spy Wars and in his 2014 follow-up PDF Ghosts of the Spy Wars about your anti-Bagley, anti-Angleton heroes Leonard McCoy and John L. Hart, et al.
Do you follow Professor John M. Newman, Mike? Did you know that he agrees with Bagley when he says Golitsyn was a true defector and Nosenko a false one, sent to the U.S. to contradict what Golitsyn was telling CIA?
Never mind.
I forgot -- You ask questions, you don't answer them.
Especially from me.
LOL
-- MWT ;)
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In other words, you're really good at slinging xxxx at people with whom you vehemently disagree, but are incapable of articulating why you disagree with them, especially if they've laid out some evidence and recent discoveries which suggest that Khrushchev and/or Castro were behind the assassination of JFK.
It appears that you either refuse to read (or have read but have decided to completely ignore) what Tennent H. Bagley (who was a LNer, btw) wrote in his 2007 book Spy Wars and in his 2014 follow-up PDF Ghosts of the Spy Wars about your anti-Bagley, anti-Angleton heroes Leonard McCoy and John L. Hart, et al.
Do you follow Professor John M. Newman, Mike? Did you know that he agrees with Bagley when he says Golitsyn was a true defector and Nosenko a false one, sent to the U.S. to contradict what Golitsyn was telling CIA?
Never mind.
I forgot -- You ask questions, you don't answer them.
Especially from me.
LOL
-- MWT ;)
In other words, you're really good at slinging xxxx at people with whom you vehemently disagree
I didn’t sling any **** at you. I haven’t vehemently disagreed with you. If you are referring to my refutation, a few hours ago, of your characterization of Newman’s WW3 virus hypothesis, I simply showed you that, and how, you were factually mistaken. I also offered my alternative interpretation of the important information that Newman and Morley gathered from Jane Roman, with which Newman assembled his hypothesis. I thought you could, and might, appreciate both.
....evidence and recent discoveries which suggest that Khrushchev and/or Castro were behind the assassination of JFK.
I just don’t buy it. I haven’t begrudged you your theory; although I grow weary reading of your hawking the singlular capability of your pony.
It appears that you either refuse to read (or have read but have decided to completely ignore) what Tennent H. Bagley (who was a LNer, btw) wrote in his 2007 book Spy Wars and in his 2014 follow-up PDF Ghosts of the Spy Wars about your anti-Bagley, anti-Angleton heroes Leonard McCoy and John L. Hart, et al.
I haven’t read it. You know that I believe that Angleton was innocent of involvement in the JFKA. I don’t believe Bagley, as you know, yet you begrudge me my favorite counter to the veracity and reliability of him. I see that I shall soon have to dig that up.
I forgot -- You ask questions, you don't answer them.
We both have a great deal of respect for the Socratic Method. But, that method exists in a teacher-student relationship, by consent. You are not my teacher; I am not your student; I do not consent to being the subject of such a relationship to you. If it were a two-way street, things might be different and it could possibly be instructive, and fun, to more than just us. But, alas, you can’t accept the swapping of those roles, for the benefit of anyone.
Michael
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Tommy, Brian....dinner's ready!
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I haven’t read (Spy Wars or Ghosts of the Spy Wars. I don’t believe Bagley, as you know, yet you begrudge me my favorite counter to his veracity and reliability. I see that I shall soon have to dig that up.
-- slightly edited by MWT to eliminate some horrendous grammar by the SUNY-educated English Literature graduate
Shall?
LOL
Wouldst that perchance be The Monster Plot by John L. Hart? Or something Leonard McCoy wrote? Cleveland Cram, perhaps?
It's fascinating that you say that you don't believe Bagley, even though you admit to not having read his 35-page PDF!
The PDF titled Ghosts of the Spy Wars, in which he wrote a five-page exposé of one of your buddies, Leonard McCoy, the disingenous "Reports-and Requirements" officer who was instrumental in getting CIA, in 1968, to declare false defector Nosenko true, and true defector Golitsyn virtually false.
Ah yes, Leonard McCoy, the Reports-and-Requirements officer (i.e., with no counter- intelligence experience) who got turned onto the evil, evil doings of Tennent H.Bagley by probable traitor Richard Kovich, who, as luck would have it, in 1967 was snooping around (outside his authorized area) when he eventually found what he was looking for! -- a very rare and top-secret 439-page summary of Bagley's 900-page analysis of Nosenko, which he apprised McCoy about, so that he could write a twisted and unauthorized 40-page "summary" and three memo about, send them off to the powers that be and get the ball rolling for Nosenko and against evil, evil, evil Bagley and one of his guiding lights, true defector Anatoliy Golitsyn!
And the rest, as they say, is history.
(You do remember that in 2016, "former" KGB Counterintelligence lieutenant colonel Vladimir Putin installed a pro-Kremlin "useful idiot" as our president, don't you?)
I doubt that there are too many Russian names in the PDF for you, Mike, even though there are quite a few.
Probably just way too much "cognitive dissonance" pain for you to handle, right?
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08850607.2014.962362
-- MWT ;)
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I haven’t read (Spy Wars or Ghosts of the Spy Wars. I don’t believe Bagley, as you know, yet you begrudge me my favorite counter to his veracity and reliability. I see that I shall soon have to dig that up.
-- slightly edited by MWT to eliminate some horrendous grammar by the SUNY-educated English Literature graduate
-- MWT ;)
I wasn’t an English Literature major, and you botched the correcting if my sentence.
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Dear Martin,
Do you, like most JFK Assassination CTers, believe we live in an evil "Deep State"?
-- MWT ;)
Before i answer, you will have to define much more closely what you mean precisely by "Deep State".
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And, to be more accurate, I think Bagley was wrong in his assessment of Nosenko being a false defector. The government agrees with me, not you. They let him go, said sorry, and gave him a bunch money to make-up for the torture inflicted by Bagley.
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And, here is the doc that “Splked pete’s Career”, according to Newman.
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32359254.pdf
TOP SECRET 13 October 1970 MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
Subject: BAGELY, Tennant, Harrington #386 38
1) On Wednesday, 7 October 1970 I briefed Colonel L. K. White, Executive Director-Controller on certain reservations I have concerning the proposed promotion of subject to a supergrade position.
2) I was very careful to explain to Colonel White at the outset that my reservations had nothing whatsoever to do with Bagely's security status. I explained that it was my conviction that Bagely was almost exclusively responsible for the manner in which the Nosenko case had been handled by our SR division. I said I considered that Bagely lacked objectivity and that he had displayed extremely poor judgment over a two year period in the handling of this case. Specifically as one example of Bagely's extreme prejudice I pointed out that the SR division had neglected to follow up several leads provided by Nosenko which subsequently had been followed up by this office (Bruce Solie) and that this lead us to individuals who have confessed their recruitment and use by the Soviets over an extensive period of time.
3) I explained further that Bagely displayed extremely poor judgment in the actions he took during that time that Nosenko was incarcerated at ISOLATION. On many occasions, as the individual responsible for Nosenko's care, I refuse to condone Bagely's instructions to my people who are guarding him. In one instance Bagely insisted that Nosenko's food ration be reduced to black bread and water three times daily. After I had briefed Colonel White, he indicated that he would refresh the Director's memory on Bagely's role in the Nosenko case at the time he reviews supergrade promotions.
Howard J. Osborn Director of Security
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And, to be more accurate, I think Bagley was wrong in his assessment of Nosenko being a false defector. The government agrees with me, not you. They let him go, said sorry, and gave him a bunch money to make-up for the torture inflicted by Bagley.
Why do you disagree with John Newman and Peter Dale Scott on Nosenko, i.e., that Nosenko was a false defector?
-- MWT ;)
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Here is the doc that “Splked Pete’s Career,”according to Newman.
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32359254.pdf
TOP SECRET 13 October 1970 MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
Subject: BAGELY, Tennant, Harrington #386 38
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[A]s one example of Bagely's extreme prejudice I pointed out that the S[oviet]R[ussia] division had neglected to follow up several leads provided by Nosenko which subsequently had[sic] been followed up by this office (Bruce Solie) and that this led us to individuals who have confessed their recruitment and use by the Soviets over an extensive period of time.
[...]
Howard J. Osborn Director of Security
Mike,
Who were the presumably not-already-suspected, still-useful-to-the-Kremlin traitors whom your boy Nosenko allegedly "fingered" for the CIA?
Hint: There weren't any.
Unlike the traitors true-defector Anatoliy Golitsyn helped our intelligence agencies and those of our allies to uncover, all of the ones your boy Nosenko "uncovered" were either already suspected, or had already lost access to classified information.
Waiting on torturous pins and needles and in solitary confinement for your reply ...
-- MWT ;)
PS I reiterate:
Why do you disagree with Professor Peter Dale Scott and former U.S. Army Intelligence analyst, John Newman, on Nosenko?
PS Your link, above, sucks.
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Before I answer, you will have to define much more closely what you mean precisely by "Deep State".
Martin,
The "Deep State" is the evil military-industrial-intelligence complex, run by a group of corporate bosses and rogue government agencies hell-bent on circumventing democratic procedures to maintain power."
That work for you?
-- MWT ;)
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I wasn’t an English Literature major, and you botched the correcting if my sentence.
" ... the correcting if my sentence" ?
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Mike,
PS Your link, above, sucks.
Tom,
Thanks, fixed it
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32359254.pdf
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Tom,
Thanks, fixed it
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32359254.pdf
You're welcome, Michael.
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Martin,
The "Deep State" is the evil military-industrial-intelligence complex, run by a group of corporate bosses and rogue government agencies hell-bent on circumventing democratic procedures to maintain power."
That work for you?
-- MWT ;)
That work for you?
No, not really. Too vague and certainly not specific enough. I fully understand politics is and has always been a dirty game and special interests lobby groups do exist, but I don't chase ghosts. Do you have anything solid?
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That work for you?
No, not really. Too vague and certainly not specific enough. I fully understand politics is and has always been a dirty game and special interests lobby groups do exist, but I don't chase ghosts. Do you have anything solid?
Dear Marty.
How could I, seein' as how I don't believe in it, myself?
-- MWT ;)
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That work for you?
No, not really. Too vague and certainly not specific enough. I fully understand politics is and has always been a dirty game and special interests lobby groups do exist, but I don't chase ghosts. Do you have anything solid?
They'll tell you Trump is a victim of a three years old, deep state sponsored secret plot against him.
If indeed Trump suddenly moved the transition operation out of Trump Tower in reaction to face to face November 17 contact with
Admiral Mike Rogers, is this not proof Trump is a clever, nimble, flexible "victim"? Would not a competent Deep State discern it has
better things to do than transform a self promoted wunderkind winner huckster into a victim POTUS?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-transition-to-the-white-house-live-blog/
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Thursday, November 17, (2016)
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10:50 a.m. ET In the president-elect’s daily transition conference call with Sean Spicer and Jason Miller, the transition team offered a list of people Mr. Trump is meeting with today, including: South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, Texas Rep. Jeb Hensarling, Florida Gov. Rick Scott, Oracle business executive Safra Catz, Admiral Mike Rogers, and the Family Research Council’s Ken Blackwell.
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/17/donald-trump-moves-transition-meetings-private-gol/
Donald Trump moves transition meetings to private golf club in New Jersey
y S.A. Miller - The Washington Times - Thursday, November 17, 2016
President-elect Donald Trump is moving the transition meetings Friday from Trump Tower in New York to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, said transition team officials.
The transition team did not provide details of who Mr. Trump will meet with at the exclusive private golf club about 35 miles west of Manhattan.....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-and-intelligence-community-chiefs-have-urged-obama-to-remove-the-head-of-the-nsa/2016/11/19/44de6ea6-adff-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html?utm_term=.ef045ac52042
By Ellen Nakashima November 19, 2016
The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed.....
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They'll tell you Trump is a victim of a three years old, deep state sponsored secret plot against him.
If indeed Trump suddenly moved the transition operation out of Trump Tower in reaction to face to face November 17 contact with
Admiral Mike Rogers, is this not proof Tru ;)mp is a clever, nimble, flexible "victim"? Would not a competent Deep State discern it has
better things to do than transform a self promoted wunderkind winner huckster into a victim POTUS?
With a friend like Mike Rogers, who needs enemas?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/03/nsa-chief-michael-rogers-edward-snowden-probably-not-spy
-- MWT ;)
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An article from five years ago: "When Did Snowden Go Over To The Russians?"
https://20committee.com/2014/05/31/when-did-snowden-go-over-to-the-russians/
And here's a more recent one.
https://20committee.com/2016/06/11/edward-snowden-is-a-russian-agent/
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Gee Tommy , I was talking with Nancy Kerrigan a couple of days ago. She has information that Tonya Harding, Jeff Gillooly , Shane Stant and Shawn Eckardt were all part of a KGB plot 8) to help Oksana Baiul win the Olympic Gold Medal in Women's figure skating back in 1994. Crazy world, eh?
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Gee Tommy , I was talking with Nancy Kerrigan a couple of days ago. She has information that Tonya Harding, Jeff Gillooly , Shane Stant and Shawn Eckardt were all part of a KGB plot 8) to help Oksana Baiul win the Olympic Gold Medal in Women's figure skating back in 1994. Crazy world, eh?
Sounds as though you kissed the Blarney Stone too many times, Stevie.
--MWT ;)
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Sounds as though you kissed the Blarney Stone too many times, Stevie.
--MWT ;)
I'm seeing her Friday at a luncheon. I'll see what stuff she is referring too. Hey I notice you're into some real crackpot sh*t. I know Patty Shaw too. (Patty Hearst) She's big into show dogs now, Shih Tzu's are her specialty. She's got some real spooky stuff. Seriously , do you think she was really brainwashed?
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I'm seeing her Friday at a luncheon. I'll see what stuff she is referring too. Hey I notice you're into some real crackpot sh*t. I know Patty Shaw too. (Patty Hearst) She's big into show dogs now, Shih Tzu's are her specialty. She's got some real spooky stuff. Seriously , do you think she was really brainwashed?
You must be very proud of yourself.
How much does Putin pay you to spew propaganda?
-- MWT ;)