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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Jerry Freeman on March 12, 2019, 02:25:18 AM
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Whether or not someone 'feels' that they believe in a lone assassin or a conspiracy...they should read this----
The casual observer of November 22, 1963, would get the impression that the Texas School Book Depository had occupied that building on Elm Street in Dallas for many long years. That impression would be wrong. The company had just moved in over the previous winter. Its clerical offices had been right across the street , on the 1st floor of the Dal-Tex. The old warehouse, still in use, was a quarter mile back across the rail yard on Houston Street. The original building was struck by lightning and burnt down in 1901. It was rebuilt and used for manufacturing farm equipment by the Rock Island Plow Company, that was acquired by International Harvester in 1910. It was purchased by oil tycoon David H. Byrd in 1937, with the intention of making air conditioners. But patent disputes stalled this idea and Byrd leased the building in 1941 to the John Sexton grocery wholesaler. And so it became known as the Sexton Building. They moved out in November of 1961 and the building was vacant for about a year, leased at some point to Depository president Jack Cason. Several months of renovations created office space up to the 4th floor-- including the installation of a passenger elevator near the front entrance. The TSBD Company moved in over the winter of 1962. Seven publishing companies also used the building at the time of the assassination.
Jack Cason told the Secret Service in early December that he left the building around 11:00 AM, meeting up with some friends who were arriving in town for his daughter?s wedding the next day. He told the FBI in March that he had left at approximately 12:10 PM and he heard about the assassination on his car radio. D.H. Byrd was on a safari in Mozambique at the time in question. There was never any proper investigation of the Depository personnel, who left us a trail of omissions and ambiguities punctuated by shards of truth that glitter and obfuscate to this day.
INSIDE JOB [75 pages]..... jfkinsidejob.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/INSIDE-JOB.pdf
Mod... If you have trouble with pdf try to open with adobe reader.
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Whether or not someone 'feels' that they believe in a lone assassin or a conspiracy...they should read this----
INSIDE JOB [75 pages]..... jfkinsidejob.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/INSIDE-JOB.pdf
Mod... If you have trouble with pdf try to open with adobe reader.
A pile of garbage!
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A pile of garbage!
Smellier than the Warren Report? [Which it contradicts]
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Had Shelley displayed any nervousness or reticence when answering, the Dallas police had cause to arrest him- and this is indeed what happened, according to journalist Elzie Glaze. Shelley had confided to him in 1975 that the DPD had formally charged him with the President's murder. (William Weston in The Fourth Decade, Vol. 6, No. 4, May 1999).
Although Shelley arrived at DPD HQ about 1:30, he was not allowed to leave until 5:00 PM (WC Exhibit 1381)- and not without submitting a second affidavit. One would imagine that his other bombshell to Glaze- that he'd joined the CIA shortly after its inception- helped especially in obtaining his early release.
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I met this lady who knew Wesley Frazier. He told her that the cops were threatening him with accessory to murder charges.
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I find it both hilarious and absurd that so many people point to nonsense like this, and yet everyone ignores the Zapruder testimony to the Warren Commission.
Zapruder testified that shooters were behind him. And indeed, 2 shooters were behind him, in the pergola. The Moorman photo shows them. The Nix film shows them. The Darnell film shows them. Other photos show them. And yet everyone disregards it and continues on with the Oswald debate. Even shows stuff like the above. ::)
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Zapruder testified that shooters were behind him.
No he didn't.
And indeed, 2 shooters were behind him, in the pergola.
Has been previously dismissed as ridiculous-- https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1416.msg38569.html#msg38569
You are really Keyvan Shahrdar huh?
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I met this lady who knew Wesley Frazier. He told her that the cops were threatening him with accessory to murder charges.
Messrs Shelley and Frazier knew the identity of the person we now call 'Prayer Man'. Go figure!
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First of all, watch your mouth. I'm not one of anything. I have my own mind, eyes and ears, and I can see just fine.
Second...
Mr. LIEBELER - As you were standing on this abutment facing Elm street, you say the police ran over behind the concrete structure behind you and down the railroad track behind that, is that right?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - After the shots?
Mr. LIEBELER - Yes.
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes--after the shots--yes, some of them were motorcycle cops--I guess they left their motorcycles running and they were running right behind me, of course, in the line of the shooting. I guess they thought it came from right behind me.
Mr. LIEBELER - Did you have any impression as to the direction from which these shots came?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - No, I also thought it came from back of me. Of course, you can't tell when something is in line it could come from anywhere, but being I was here and he was hit on this line and he was hit right in the head--I saw it right around here, so it looked like it came from here and it could come from there.
Mr. LIEBELER - All right, as you stood here on the abutment and looked down into Elm Street, you saw the President hit on the right side of the head and you thought perhaps the shots had come from behind you?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Well, yes.
Mr. LIEBELER - From the direction behind you?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes, actually--I couldn't say what I thought at the moment, where they came from--after the impact of the tragedy was really what I saw and I started and I said--yelling, "They've killed him"--I assumed that they came from there, because as the police started running back of me, it looked like it came from the back of me.
Now that we've established you don't know what you're talking about... Here's the original un-altered Moorman photo.
https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipPEWzepTWj7Ll8zteFc6vKo46d0nqP6HT_fotXv (https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipPEWzepTWj7Ll8zteFc6vKo46d0nqP6HT_fotXv)
Now here's a zoomed and colorized photo. The last one I made it easier to see and before you look at it, think real carefully about your position. Because if you claim to be a researcher and can't see something as simple as this, smh.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mNkFZaXdRFyMhfh98 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/mNkFZaXdRFyMhfh98)
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First of all, watch your mouth. I'm not one of anything. I have my own mind, eyes and ears, and I can see just fine.
Second...
Mr. LIEBELER - As you were standing on this abutment facing Elm street, you say the police ran over behind the concrete structure behind you and down the railroad track behind that, is that right?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - After the shots?
Mr. LIEBELER - Yes.
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes--after the shots--yes, some of them were motorcycle cops--I guess they left their motorcycles running and they were running right behind me, of course, in the line of the shooting. I guess they thought it came from right behind me.
Mr. LIEBELER - Did you have any impression as to the direction from which these shots came?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - No, I also thought it came from back of me. Of course, you can't tell when something is in line it could come from anywhere, but being I was here and he was hit on this line and he was hit right in the head--I saw it right around here, so it looked like it came from here and it could come from there.
Mr. LIEBELER - All right, as you stood here on the abutment and looked down into Elm Street, you saw the President hit on the right side of the head and you thought perhaps the shots had come from behind you?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Well, yes.
Mr. LIEBELER - From the direction behind you?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes, actually--I couldn't say what I thought at the moment, where they came from--after the impact of the tragedy was really what I saw and I started and I said--yelling, "They've killed him"--I assumed that they came from there, because as the police started running back of me, it looked like it came from the back of me.
Now that we've established you don't know what you're talking about... Here's the original un-altered Moorman photo.
https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipPEWzepTWj7Ll8zteFc6vKo46d0nqP6HT_fotXv (https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipPEWzepTWj7Ll8zteFc6vKo46d0nqP6HT_fotXv)
Now here's a zoomed and colorized photo. The last one I made it easier to see and before you look at it, think real carefully about your position. Because if you claim to be a researcher and can't see something as simple as this, smh.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mNkFZaXdRFyMhfh98 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/mNkFZaXdRFyMhfh98)
How tall would "gunman #2 " have to be ??
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First of all, watch your mouth. I'm not one of anything. I have my own mind, eyes and ears, and I can see just fine.
Tone...? Attitude?
Let's take another look at some of the words in the Zapruder interview...
Z..."I couldn't say what I thought at the moment"....
Mr. LIEBELER - "But you didn't form any opinion at that time as to what direction the shots did come from actually?"
Mr. ZAPRUDER - "No."
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Well, it could have been--in other words if you have a point--you could hit a point from any place, as far as that's concerned. I have no way of determining what direction the bullet was going.
Z...I remember the police were running behind me. There were police running right behind me. Of course, they didn't realize yet, I guess, where the shot came from--that it came from that height.
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes--after the shots--yes, some of them were motorcycle cops--I guess they left their motorcycles running and they were running right behind me, of course, in the line of the shooting. I guess they thought it came from right behind me.
So where is the Zapruder testimony that HE SAID the shots came from behind him?
Now Zapruder lied. He knew perfectly well that the shots came from behind that stockade fence.
Mr. ZAPRUDER - $25,000 was paid and I have given it to the Firemen's and Policemen's Fund.
Mr. LIEBELER - You gave the whole $25,000?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes.
For his 'co-operation...Zapruder received more than that --a lot more.
The Pergola where he was standing was only accessed from the right entry or the left down the steps.
The first link is an error 404. The second link---someone drew in a rifle? Oh come on.
Anyway the response has nothing to do with the topic.
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I thought this forum was supposed to be about learning the truth. But instead it seems there's mostly bias people who stubbornly & intentionally rather ignore real facts & dismiss them as silly, in favor of their own theories for which they have no proof. Possibly because they can't handle the fact that someone else discovered what they couldn't?
What's really silly is grown men on a JFK Assassination board trying desperately to ignore what the Moorman photo & Nix film show. I'm a grown man with 20/20 vision. I can see just fine. But some of you might be past the age of good vision, so I've made it simple for those who can't see, to see.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dF9MN9cbmsG1AbBM9
And now that it can't be denied, I'm sure it will be deleted. There's nothing wrong my vision, I can see just fine.
What's really sad is how perfectly well the shot lines up with what we see in the Zapruder film.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fb42CPAFe5aBRZMZA
I just can't figure out is why grown men on a JFK board are trying so hard to pretend they can't see what's clearly there? Is it because they feel their theories should be right? Because if so, it sounds like a silly narcissism issue. Grow up.
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I thought this forum was supposed to be about learning the truth. But instead it seems there's mostly bias people who stubbornly & intentionally rather ignore real facts & dismiss them as silly, in favor of their own theories for which they have no proof. Possibly because they can't handle the fact that someone else discovered what they couldn't?
What's really silly is grown men on a JFK Assassination board trying desperately to ignore what the Moorman photo & Nix film show. I'm a grown man with 20/20 vision. I can see just fine. But some of you might be past the age of good vision, so I've made it simple for those who can't see, to see.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dF9MN9cbmsG1AbBM9
And now that it can't be denied, I'm sure it will be deleted. There's nothing wrong my vision, I can see just fine.
What's really sad is how perfectly well the shot lines up with what we see in the Zapruder film.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fb42CPAFe5aBRZMZA
I just can't figure out is why grown men on a JFK board are trying so hard to pretend they can't see what's clearly there? Is it because they feel their theories should be right? Because if so, it sounds like a silly narcissism issue. Grow up.
(https://i.imgur.com/hWSdh.gif)
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I thought this forum was supposed to be about learning the truth. But instead it seems there's mostly bias people who stubbornly & intentionally rather ignore real facts & dismiss them as silly, in favor of their own theories for which they have no proof. Possibly because they can't handle the fact that someone else discovered what they couldn't?
What's really silly is grown men on a JFK Assassination board trying desperately to ignore what the Moorman photo & Nix film show. I'm a grown man with 20/20 vision. I can see just fine. But some of you might be past the age of good vision, so I've made it simple for those who can't see, to see.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fl9wY4Sx_3-Z_tK7VcSAc4j_awjl5EAz8NVqHf_LFsf1H2elC0UmY9qgx3A-Px2iFu75V1UuY0-RGJ2_wGug1iKz2BazfwOP2jDLaSK-R7U1PL5fkQnJ0f6eJT1WMBoBvOHguJOZ2g=w823-h613-no) (https://photos.app.goo.gl/dF9MN9cbmsG1AbBM9)
And now that it can't be denied, I'm sure it will be deleted. There's nothing wrong my vision, I can see just fine.
What's really sad is how perfectly well the shot lines up with what we see in the Zapruder film.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0CL-zFD8ETmlBQJZ-p4GZPj9fZm6bT-u1gN5ASfwMq_O4CFSN_w7U2JhGtQCNvbN9Uji65HaIeP1C6E-08YiCRahFxqkiIKJDH-rB88T6n39YV86oVpNZFHjV73B5-GDkGN-hYmTNQ=w607-h358-no)
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/fb42CPAFe5aBRZMZA)
I just can't figure out is why grown men on a JFK board are trying so hard to pretend they can't see what's clearly there? Is it because they feel their theories should be right? Because if so, it sounds like a silly narcissism issue. Grow up.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Qx5BmbWmAQGeU0b0LV/giphy.gif)
(http://i63.tinypic.com/8xlcsx.jpg)
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<waits patiently for someone to say: "Prove it wasn't a 9'8" shooter...">
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(https://northendwaterfront.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Uncle-Sam-on-Stilts-leads-the-parade-in-the-park.jpg)
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(https://northendwaterfront.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Uncle-Sam-on-Stilts-leads-the-parade-in-the-park.jpg)
Hmmm. Doesn't seem to be native Americans in the parade. :D
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I thought this forum was supposed to be about learning the truth. But instead it seems there's mostly bias people who stubbornly & intentionally rather ignore real facts & dismiss them as silly, in favor of their own theories for which they have no proof. Possibly because they can't handle the fact that someone else discovered what they couldn't?
What's really silly is grown men on a JFK Assassination board trying desperately to ignore what the Moorman photo & Nix film show. I'm a grown man with 20/20 vision. I can see just fine. But some of you might be past the age of good vision, so I've made it simple for those who can't see, to see.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dF9MN9cbmsG1AbBM9
And now that it can't be denied, I'm sure it will be deleted. There's nothing wrong my vision, I can see just fine.
What's really sad is how perfectly well the shot lines up with what we see in the Zapruder film.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fb42CPAFe5aBRZMZA
I just can't figure out is why grown men on a JFK board are trying so hard to pretend they can't see what's clearly there? Is it because they feel their theories should be right? Because if so, it sounds like a silly narcissism issue. Grow up.
If I understand you there is a mans face in the upper opening and a rifle in the lower opening.....
How could the man aim the rifle?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dF9MN9cbmsG1AbBM9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dF9MN9cbmsG1AbBM9
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Hmmm. Doesn't seem to be native Americans in the parade. :D
Good way to hide a rifle or two
Maybe this clown supplied the rifles to the 82 shooters found in conspiracy books
And carried his lunch under his hat
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If I understand you there is a mans face in the upper opening and a rifle in the lower opening.....
How could the man aim the rifle?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dF9MN9cbmsG1AbBM9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dF9MN9cbmsG1AbBM9
>>How could the man aim the rifle?<<------ Maybe that wasn't his rifle.
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