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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Robin Unger on January 12, 2018, 08:21:42 PM
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Quote: Dale Myers
Dave Wiegman was an NBC cameraman riding in Camera Car 1, the tenth automobile in the motorcade. When the shooting began, Wiegman turned on his 16mm news camera, which ran at 24 frames-per-second.
Wiegmans first frame W001 is equivalent to Zapruder 246
Wiegman frame W015 is equivalent to Zapruder 257
Wiegman frame W035 is equivalent to Zapruder 272
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uZXQIVtQBUI/V7Bvr1GJL9I/AAAAAAAAABQ/ADmB7P-1Oy4FXNGGjI7JX2II7fB4knicACLcB/s1600/Myers%257E0.jpg)
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(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmdQNLNbkIM/V7B953GF39I/AAAAAAAAACI/4oj6GEfOEZg28OwJhxU1ZdGipN41zL3RwCLcB/s1600/soh-acoustics_report-page-116.jpg)
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Robin,
Wiegman15 does not sync with Z257.
You can find the Wiegman15 car in the background at Z193.
You can plot that position using the Stemmons support post as a LOS from Z's pedestal.
Then plot the Wiegman15 car in the Elm St turn.
The distance traveled by the Wiegman15 car using extant Z193-z257 = 62.5ft.
64 Zframes = 64/18.3fps = 3.497 seconds.
62.5ft / 3.497 sec = 17.87ft per sec = 12.15mph.
Myers approx speed for the motorcade down Houston is 9.3mph.
It's even slower entering the Elm St turn which is exactly where the Wiegman15 car is located.
Try 7.1 and 7.9 mph into the turn.
Average those three (7.1,7.9 and 9.3) and you get 8.1mph
As I said before, there is approx 1.8 seconds Myer's uses to speed up the scenario, which is the Towner bogus frame rate of 22.8fps instead of 18.3.
That difference of 1.8seconds when added back to the 3.5 sec (64 frames) = 5.3 seconds
Now do the math for the Wiegman15 car.
62.5ft / 5.3 seconds = 11.79ft per sec = 8.02mph
This is how sync's that don't work, are made to appear they do.
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An easier way to picture it, is using CE884 and a nearby frame span of z186-z255.
69 frames @ 65.6ft = 11.78 mph.
The limo would have to be moving slower than the motorcade on Houston St including the initial turn onto Elm St.
I don't think so.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4767/38951066464_3556f7aa16.jpg)
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btw,
This is Myer's graphic.
Wiegman15 car is in the 7.1mph zone.
6.8 + 7.1 +(9.3 -Houston St) = 7.73mph average
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4650/24801854657_fb830dcf1e_b.jpg)
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The same thought process can be applied to the Martin film also.
Do you think it's quite peculiar that two different 8mm cameras would have to run at 22.8/18 (27%) faster than they normally would in order to have proper syncing for the assassination? Not!!!
Just as the Towner camera was 8mm and shot at 18.3fps on assassination day(not 22.8), so too was the Martin film.
The accommodation would look like this:
Martin total frames =72.
72/22.8 =3.157 seconds
72/18.3 =3.934 seconds
Difference = .777 sec
Time gap listed between Towner end and Z 133 = .82sec
Difference = .043 sec = less than 1 frame
I won't belabor the point much more, the elemental importance has been provided.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4746/39820145071_acb51a8779_b.jpg)
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One of the most interesting parts of the Wiegman film is the frames that correspond to Z403-411....Wiegman clearly shows a pickup truck with a man either sitting in the truck bed or standing on the far side of the bed on the south side of Elm while the Zapruder film has this bed with a painted looking canopy.
Keep in mind that Tosh Plumlee says he and another abort team member were on the south side.
Image Scroll Bar At Bottom Of Image
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Hi Jim.
The image was exposed by Cancellare. According to some
researchers under the left tree is an alleged gunman. To
the extreme right and not shown is be James Tague.
johnw
The full uncropped photograph, poor quality, taken from Robin's Gallery. https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=33 (https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=33)
It shows Tague, as does the larger crop below.
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/Cancellare_Uncropped.jpg)
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/CANCELLARE.JPG)
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The full uncropped photograph, poor quality, taken from Robin's Gallery. https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=33 (https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=33)
It shows Tague, as does the larger crop below.
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/Cancellare_Uncropped.jpg)
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/CANCELLARE.JPG)
MISSING TIME
The Issue Revealed by this photo involves us seeing that the South Grass Section alongside Elm street is Virtually Vacant. Within mere seconds this same Grass Section will be absolutely jam packed with Assassination Eye Witnesses in the process of Sprinting across Elm St. toward the Picket Fence at the Top of the Grassy Knoll.
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The only thing about this film is that yes it shows Kennedy right before he was shot and when he was shot, but it doesn't show what we actually need to know!! Like was there more than one gunman or where did the shots come from?! It just shows everyone panicking after!!! From doing some research I believe that Oswald was only a decoy. Take a look at this website and maybe you will rethink as well. I have more websites as well, reply back to me for more information or to chat.
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKwallaceM.htm
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Quote: Dale Myers
Dave Wiegman was an NBC cameraman riding in Camera Car 1, the tenth automobile in the motorcade. When the shooting began, Wiegman turned on his 16mm news camera, which ran at 24 frames-per-second.
Wiegmans first frame W001 is equivalent to Zapruder 246
Wiegman frame W015 is equivalent to Zapruder 257
Wiegman frame W035 is equivalent to Zapruder 272
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uZXQIVtQBUI/V7Bvr1GJL9I/AAAAAAAAABQ/ADmB7P-1Oy4FXNGGjI7JX2II7fB4knicACLcB/s1600/Myers%257E0.jpg)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-we_P5w_ealw/V7BwLc7xCCI/AAAAAAAAABU/Cm3v6RKQXrY1OyF2T4GnVv6hJo59cZs9wCLcB/s1600/Wiegman.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmdQNLNbkIM/V7B953GF39I/AAAAAAAAACI/4oj6GEfOEZg28OwJhxU1ZdGipN41zL3RwCLcB/s1600/soh-acoustics_report-page-116.jpg)
One of the major questions raised by the Wiegman Film is why is SA Lem Johns completely Absent from every single frame of this film? Johns claims to have jumped out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car and begin running in the direction of LBJ's car when the Kill Shot rang out. SA John's reported at that point the JFK Motorcade sped up and he was left standing in the middle of Elm St. On Wiegman frame 265 we see the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car at the South Elm curb area. Wiegman F265 is also supposed to correspond to Zapruder frame 447, a point in time in which the JFK Limo had Not even reached the Triple Underpass. Yet, there is No SA LEM JOHNS visible at that point on the Wiegman Film or at Any Other Point going forward. Wiegman climbed out of Camera Car #1 & ran around the corner of Houston/Elm, he then ran straight down Elm St in the direction of the Triple Underpass. His film allegedly captured the JFK Limo beginning to go under the Triple Underpass. Yet, his "continuously running" film somehow Completely Failed to capture even a glimpse/a frame of an SS Agent standing smack dab in the middle of Elm St? Either the SA Lem Johns story is Bogus or the Wiegman Film is Not as Billed regarding its' Time Line /Bona Fides.