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Title: Things I don't care about
Post by: John Corbett on July 17, 2026, 09:23:37 PM
I don't care about any of these items from just the first page of the forum topics:

Bart Kemp
Billy Lovelady
Pauline Sanders
Jeff Morley
CIA wallets
Babushka Lady

Why don't I care? Because none of the above had anything to do with the JFKA. They are all irrelevant distractions. I'm sure if I went back far enough, I could find dozens of other topics I don't care about. It amuses me how much people obsess about these topics. The phrase "barking up the wrong tree" comes to mind.
Title: Re: Things I don't care about
Post by: Martin Weidmann on July 17, 2026, 09:27:21 PM
I don't care about any of these items from just the first page of the forum topics:

Bart Kemp
Billy Lovelady
Pauline Sanders
Jeff Morley
CIA wallets
Babushka Lady

Why don't I care? Because none of the above had anything to do with the JFKA. They are all irrelevant distractions. I'm sure if I went back far enough, I could find dozens of other topics I don't care about. It amuses me how much people obsess about these topics. The phrase "barking up the wrong tree" comes to mind.

Is your ego so big that you think anybody cares about anything you don't care about or even anything you have to say?
Title: Things I don't care about
Post by: Brian Doyle on July 17, 2026, 09:58:21 PM

Sorting out Lovelady helps solve the conspiracy...

He's a main player...
Title: Re: Things I don't care about
Post by: John Corbett on July 17, 2026, 10:25:04 PM
Sorting out Lovelady helps solve the conspiracy...

He's a main player...

That's the problem. You people assume there was a conspiracy and unable to find evidence of such, you go on all these snipe hunts in hopes of finding such evidence. If you would just take a straight forward look at the evidence and follow it to a logical conclusion, you would realize the reason there is no evidence of a conspiracy is because there was no conspiracy. But that's not the answer you people want so you go off on all these tangents that lead nowhere. 62 years of futility hasn't dissuaded you folks from your ill-conceived beliefs.
Title: Re: Things I don't care about
Post by: Michael Capasse on July 17, 2026, 10:41:23 PM
That's the problem. You people assume there was a conspiracy and unable to find evidence of such, you go on all these snipe hunts in hopes of finding such evidence. If you would just take a straight forward look at the evidence and follow it to a logical conclusion, you would realize the reason there is no evidence of a conspiracy is because there was no conspiracy. But that's not the answer you people want so you go off on all these tangents that lead nowhere. 62 years of futility hasn't dissuaded you folks from your ill-conceived beliefs.

 :D
Title: Things I don't care about
Post by: Brian Doyle on July 17, 2026, 11:07:41 PM

Such thinking causes us to miss some of the best, most subtle evidence...

I am the researcher who discovered that Lovelady told Jarman that he saw Oswald exit the front door and leave...Lovelady did that around the HSCA because he was conscious of the fact his partner Shelley was CIA...Lovelady did that in order to cover for CIA Shelley because Shelley had assisted Oswald around the police cordon and being stopped by a cop at the front door and told to step aside...This event was the most dangerous and threatening thing to the conspiracy because it showed a conscious setting up of Oswald in the Depository and knowledge by the actors of the conspiracy...It showed motives and who everyone was in the Depository...Shelley escorting Oswald out the Loading Dock and not telling about it are two of the main things that orient the conspiracy in the Depository...They were the main focus of the cover-up...

If you have a good sense of things and detective skills like myself you'll notice that HSCA did not pounce on Jarman's admission and take Lovelady to task on why he never told this important witnessing at any of the previous inquiries by the authorities...Why he didn't tell this to the FBI or Warren Commission...The reason why HSCA had an unaccountable lack of follow-through on Jarman's admission is because they knew it was a lie and knew Lovelady was covering for Shelley and his guiding of Oswald around the police restriction at the front door...Once again, this one little claim threatened to expose the whole conspiracy and threatened to cause an inquiry in to the happenings in the Lobby that the government did not want to discuss or have any skilled investigators like myself make them answer any questions over...This non-pursuit allowed the false premise that Oswald exited through the front door have its intended effect while avoiding the necessary follow-through it required versus the rest of the evidence...To make such a crude protest about Lovelady is to miss some of the most explosive important evidence that cracks the case...It is like passing up world class exotic art pieces in order to shop the WalMart shelf...
Title: Re: Things I don't care about
Post by: Tom Scully on July 17, 2026, 11:41:42 PM
That's the problem. You people assume there was a conspiracy and unable to find evidence of such, you go on all these snipe hunts in hopes of finding such evidence. If you would just take a straight forward look at the evidence and follow it to a logical conclusion, you would realize the reason there is no evidence of a conspiracy is because there was no conspiracy. But that's not the answer you people want so you go off on all these tangents that lead nowhere. 62 years of futility hasn't dissuaded you folks from your ill-conceived beliefs.

Yes, it is a small world. How come the CIA named it's building after a guy who worked for them for only one calender year?

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https://www.deseret.com/1989/6/9/18810648/retired-spooks-find-their-nooks-at-kennebunk/
RETIRED `SPOOKS' FIND THEIR NOOKS AT KENNEBUNK - Deseret News
Maine winters notwithstanding, spies who come in from the cold seem drawn to the Kennebunk. This coastal town and neighboring Kennebunkport are home to a cluster of former intelligence operatives, analysts and administrators who have chosen the area as a good place to retire or to build a second

Dec. 6 specially decorated Bush '41 Train engine, was Billy Joe Lord on board?
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1439.0.html

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2284.msg68148.html#msg68148
Title: Re: Things I don't care about
Post by: John Corbett on July 18, 2026, 12:04:51 AM
Yes, it is a small world. How come the CIA named it's building after a guy who worked for them for only one calender year?

A perfect example of a CT focusing on trivialities instead of the evidence that tells us who shot JFK.
Title: Re: Things I don't care about
Post by: Tom Scully on July 18, 2026, 12:46:25 AM
A perfect example of a CT focusing on trivialities instead of the evidence that tells us who shot JFK.

A perfect example of a CT focusing on trivialities instead of the evidence that tells us who shot JFK.

....Posts the opinion of a "reader" who does not even read the rest of the words posted in the two links I included in my post.

Three amigos from Rochester, Devine, Dryer, Macomber.

Macomber just happened to be the best man in Bush's sister's 1946 wedding to Alexander Ellis, and in Tom Devine's early 1970s wedding on Jupiter Island,

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3578/3768659684_4b5737b120_o.jpg)

Devine and Dryer hold separate meetings with DeMohrenschildt and a Haitian banker on same day in late April, 1963,
just three weeks after DeMohrenschildt wrote that he had asked, "Lee, how did you miss?"

Bemis is described by Billy Joe Lord as the person Henry Hurt told Lord had advised Hurt on how to put pressure on Lord to cooperate with the Eostein/Hurt Reader's
Digest "inquiry". Bemis, "owner of a string of hotels," matches the description of Bush's longest friend, Gerry Bemiss, who just happens to be Hurt's wife's first cousin.

Yes, it was thoughtful of them, wasn't it? :

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=39eb56e0a03d1f43&sxsrf=APpeQnuY3DKlr7b_1Pib2y4PmzLFkSVxzQ:1784332265875&q=had+a+meeting+regarding+my+political+future%E2%80%94very+thoughtful+of+them.&udm=36&source=lnms&fbs=ABfTbFVyMZGZf1hfvX9uKjN_-G8cxpBkeIeqYwoCbfNVc4vKE0nzDtz46ks8VcXZ-FAj7roWouGYoa-8wJKyeh_fRvLGc5HvMtnq86ZTdu-hT_jvMWj88Ay957L9PwGeD-onUveIkecPSkl1ew4jViPtQV_7C42DWS_wvyN3PglWF-8A5h4Nf0l0U_JnxfnM37gvhQUhNcI8offn6I8qCIn-fQQnB6E1Ag&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiih_nW89qVAxWm5ckDHS7pA8sQ0pQJegQIVBAB&biw=1600&bih=732&dpr=1
The China Diary of George H. W. Bush: The Making of a Global 
Jeffrey A. Engel · 2011
FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 311
"The Making of a Global President Jeffrey A. Engel. I brought home a picture for Bar from ... Bemis, Lias and Devine had a meeting regarding my political future—very thoughtful of them.5 All I know now is to do the best job one can here."

Title: Re: Things I don't care about
Post by: Tom Graves on July 18, 2026, 12:57:57 AM
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In the early 1970s, CIA Counterintelligence analyst Clare Edward Petty, determined, by reading some WW II VENONA decrypts, that George DeMohrenschildt was very likely a long-term KGB "illegal."
Title: Re: Things I don't care about
Post by: Benjamin Cole on July 18, 2026, 01:03:34 AM
TG-

deM. was "very likely" or just possibly a KGB asset?

Can you cite evidence that Petty determined DeM. was, in the 1960s, "very likely" a KGB asset?

Wasn't that more of a suspicion?