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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Michael T. Griffith on June 23, 2026, 03:03:59 PM
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Numerous scholars have uncovered serious problems, contradictions, and clear cases of fraud in the JFK assassination medical evidence, ballistics evidence, crime-scene evidence, and other evidence. This should not be surprising if we remember the following facts:
-- The autopsy materials and other materials that the Warren Commission (WC) sealed were not supposed to be released until 2039. The WC put a 75-year seal on those records. Thus, those involved in the cover-up believed that no one would see those materials for another 75 years (1964-2039).
WC apologists often ask, "How could any halfway intelligent cover-up not have destroyed this evidence?" Answer: One, because they didn't think anyone would see it for 75 years. Two, because they didn't realize the implications of some of the evidence at the time. Three, because criminals sometimes make mistakes, some of them bad ones.
Few conspiracies are perfect. Even carefully planned military operations sometimes go wrong because a few things were overlooked or misjudged.
-- The historic evidence revealed in the House Select Committee on Assassinations' (HSCA's) sealed documents by the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) in the 1990s was not supposed to be released until 2029. The HSCA put a 50-year seal on those records. Thus, they thought it would be another 50 years before anyone would read the Lopez-Hardway report on the Oswald impersonations in Mexico City two months before the assassination and the explosive information disclosed by the autopsy witnesses and the Dallas doctors and nurses, for example.
-- The plotters could not have known in 1963 that new scientific disciplines would later provide hard evidence of conspiracy. They could not have known that the science of optical-density measurement would later prove that the autopsy x-rays were altered, and that the science of acoustical identification of gunfire would later prove that more than three shots were fired during the assassination and that one of the shots came from the grassy knoll.
And, again, the WC placed a 75-year seal on the autopsy photos and x-rays, so the plotters thought that no one would even see those materials for 75 years, long after the plotters would be dead and gone.
-- The plotters most likely believed that their cover-up version of the shooting would be readily, uncritically accepted by the vast majority of Americans, since back then most Americans believed that when all government officials from both parties said the same thing about a major event they must be telling the truth. Surely the plotters were surprised when opinion polls done a few years after the Warren Report was published revealed that over 60% of Americans doubted that only one man was behind JFK's death.
-- The plotters were not all powerful and omnipresent, and some of their cover-up operatives made mistakes, some of them severe. Most of the people who aided in the cover-up were not part of the conspiracy and did not realize they were helping to cover up a high-level assassination plot. Many of them believed they were acting patriotically and/or in the interest of national security. Some of them were ordered to do what they did.
This is why some evidence of multiple shooters and of a cover-up escaped the notice of the cover-up operatives. Not all FBI agents misrepresented or suppressed what witnesses told them. Not all local Dallas law enforcement personnel misrepresented the physical evidence and what witnesses told them. Not all FBI lab personnel misstated or suppressed the results of the lab's findings. Most of the autopsy witnesses told the truth about JFK's wounds and about the autopsy.
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Just who were these "plotters" and how do you know what they were thinking?
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Ignore is such a beautiful feature when it comes to John Corbett.
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Ignore is such a beautiful feature when it comes to John Corbett.
It comes from knowing where the focus should be placed. I choose to focus on solid evidence, that would be accepted by our criminal courts. That includes forensics, medical evidence, photographic evidence, expert testimony, etc. It also includes eye and ear witness accounts with the caveat that all such accounts should be scrutinized. Having served on four juries, two criminal and two civil, I know that is how judge's instruct jurors to treat such evidence and that is what I try to do with witness statements regarding the JFKA. That excludes the opinions of amateur sleuths and other people offering opinions about the evidence that falls outside their area of expertise.
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Just who were these "plotters" and how do you know what they were thinking?
Oh, surprise, surprise: One of our two worst resident know-nothing trolls is offering another unserious, frivolous reply.
It is indeed ironic that three of the seven members of the WC, which you claim got everything right, rejected the single-bullet theory, the very foundation of the lone-gunman theory. One of those three, Congressman Hale Boggs, said that FBI director J. Edgar Hoover "lied his eyes out to the Commission, on Oswald, on Ruby, on their friends, the bullet, the gun, you name it." Another of the three, Senator Richard Russell, rejected the lone-gunman theory and the SBT and believed there was a conspiracy. Another of the three, Senator Sherman Cooper, did not believe that Oswald acted alone, did not believe the single-bullet theory, said there was corruption in the WC, said the WC knew about Jack Ruby and the Mafia but did not care, and said that the "true believers" on the Commission stated they were acting for “God and country.”
Who were the plotters? We know who some of them were:
-- Mafia kingpin Carlos Marcello, who told two people, one of them a federal informant, that he was involved in the assassination.
-- Mafia kingpin Santo Trafficante, who was overheard on federal wiretaps talking about the need for JFK to die, and revealed his knowledge of/role in the plot to two people.
The four best books on the evidence that Marcello and Trafficante were involved in the plot are Dr. David Kaiser's The Road to Dallas, Dr. David Scheim's The Mafia Killed President Kennedy, Dr. Richard Mahoney's The Kennedy Brothers, and Lamar Waldron's The Hidden History of the JFK Assassination.
-- Mafia operative Jack Ruby, whose foreknowledge of the assassination was revealed in FBI documents released in 2017. The documents reveal that a federal informant reported to his federal contact in 1977 that Ruby knew about the assassination in advance. The informant logically thought that this vital information would be of interest to the newly formed HSCA, and he assumed the FBI would make the HSCA aware of this information. The Dallas FBI office forwarded the documents about the informant's disclosure to FBI HQ, but FBI HQ did not give them to the HSCA and did not even tell the HSCA about them.
-- High-ranking CIA officer and avowed Kennedy hater William King Harvey. Mark Wyatt, who served as Harvey's aide in 1963, told his children and a French journalist that he saw Harvey on a flight to Dallas in November 1963, and that Harvey made comments to him soon after the assassination that indicated Harvey had either known about the murder in advance or had been involved in it. Wyatt’s daughter urged him to testify to the HSCA, but he could not bring himself to do it because of his sense of loyalty to the CIA.
-- CIA hitman David Sanchez Morales, who proudly admitted to two close associates in 1973 that he and some other CIA personnel "took care" of Kennedy in retribution for Kennedy's alleged treason in the Bay of Pigs operation. The two witnesses were Morales' lifelong friend, Ruben Carbajal, and Morales' attorney, Bob Walton. Morales made this admission to them at the same time in the same room. Both Carbajal and Walton confirmed this to HSCA investigator Gaeton Fonzi. Fonzi discussed this in his book The Last Investigation.
I'm pointing out these things for the sake of others, not because I have any hope that you will read any of the books that document this evidence.
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-- Mafia operative Jack Ruby, whose foreknowledge of the assassination was revealed in FBI documents released in 2017. The documents reveal that a federal informant reported to his federal contact in 1977 that Ruby knew about the assassination in advance. The informant logically thought that this vital information would be of interest to the newly formed HSCA, and he assumed the FBI would make the HSCA aware of this information. The Dallas FBI office forwarded the documents about the informant's disclosure to FBI HQ, but FBI HQ did not give them to the HSCA and did not even tell the HSCA about them.
Yawn.
The man's insane. Reading his posts will only make you stupider.
Let’s examine this “Ruby foreknowledge” CT bombshell:
1. Our hero was Robert Murray Vanderslice, born in 1926 and died (in Dallas) in 1979.
2. He was an IRS tax informant, focusing on bookies, from 7/23/76 to 2/18/77 (six months). He was paid $135 for his services and $2.89 for expenses.
3. His last contact with the IRS was on 1/24/77. The IRS special agent to whom he was assigned, Lawrence Sandri, said he had never mentioned Ruby or anything about the JFKA.
4. At a restaurant lunch with the IRS local Intelligence Division Manager, Arlen Fuhlendorf, early in 1977 (some 14 years after the JFKA), he started talking about stripper Candy Barr (who did have a non-romantic, non-employment relationship with Jack Ruby a decade before the JFKA).
5. This somehow led to a discussion of Ruby. Vanderslice told Fuhlendorf that on the morning of the JFKA, Ruby had contacted him to watch the motorcade and had asked if he’d like to “watch the fireworks.” In CT world, this remark can have no meaning other than Ruby’s foreknowledge of the JFKA.
6. They watched the motorcade together from a corner near the Postal Annex. Following the JFKA, Ruby left, without comment, for the Dallas Morning News.
7. At the same lunch, Vanderslice divulged that he had been arrested and incarcerated at the Dallas County Jail at the same time Ruby was there. As a jail trustee, he said, he got to know Ruby better – but he said nothing further about the supposed foreknowledge or motorcade incident.
8. Fuhlendorf told the FBI that “as far as he knew” Vanderslice had been a reliable tax informant, but he did not know if he was truthful about Ruby. He initially reported the lunch conversation in a memorandum to the IRS national office for transmission to the HSCA, but the IRS returned the memo and told him to contact the Dallas office of the FBI. (The memorandum never surfaced.)
9. Vanderslice went to astounding lengths to avoid repeated efforts by both the FBI and IRS to contact him about his Ruby tale. Fuhlendorf thought he might have “been untruthful” or perhaps had “second thoughts” and had gotten “cold feet” after being told he might have to testify before the HSCA.
10. Because Vanderslice’s tale was inconsistent with Ruby’s WC testimony and that of a Dallas Morning News advertising department employee concerning Ruby’s activities on 11-22-63, and because Vanderslice was clearly avoiding both the FBI and IRS, the FBI abandoned further efforts to contact him.
11. On the last attempted contact, his wife said he was in Wichita Falls, “trying to make a buck here and there.”
Ho-hum, such is the stuff of which conspiratorial bombshells are made in MTG’s goofy end of the CT spectrum.
“Foreknowledge of the assassination.” BWAHAHA. :D :D :D :D
Not exactly a major exercise in factoid-busting, I’ll concede, but an interesting 30 minutes of mental exercise for your intrepid Factoid Buster.
Minor addendum: When the Vanderslice tale surfaced with the 2017 document release, it was of course of considerable news interest. THE VAST MAJORITY of news outlets, including major MSM, described Vanderslice - in headlines, no less - as an "FBI informant." Sexier than "small-time IRS tax informant," I guess. More like "FBI non-informant," as it turned out.
I reposted the above in response to He's Insane as recently as June 3.
You're welcome. Carry on.
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Oh, surprise, surprise: One of our two worst resident know-nothing trolls is offering another unserious, frivolous reply.
So you think asking you to tell us what you think happened is frivolous? That says a lot.
It is indeed ironic that three of the seven members of the WC, which you claim got everything right, rejected the single-bullet theory, the very foundation of the lone-gunman theory. One of those three, Congressman Hale Boggs, said that FBI director J. Edgar Hoover "lied his eyes out to the Commission, on Oswald, on Ruby, on their friends, the bullet, the gun, you name it." Another of the three, Senator Richard Russell, rejected the lone-gunman theory and the SBT and believed there was a conspiracy. Another of the three, Senator Sherman Cooper, did not believe that Oswald acted alone, did not believe the single-bullet theory, said there was corruption in the WC, said the WC knew about Jack Ruby and the Mafia but did not care, and said that the "true believers" on the Commission stated they were acting for “God and country.”
Who were the plotters? We know who some of them were:
-- Mafia kingpin Carlos Marcello, who told two people, one of them a federal informant, that he was involved in the assassination.
-- Mafia kingpin Santo Trafficante, who was overheard on federal wiretaps talking about the need for JFK to die, and revealed his knowledge of/role in the plot to two people.
The four best books on the evidence that Marcello and Trafficante were involved in the plot are Dr. David Kaiser's The Road to Dallas, Dr. David Scheim's The Mafia Killed President Kennedy, Dr. Richard Mahoney's The Kennedy Brothers, and Lamar Waldron's The Hidden History of the JFK Assassination.
-- Mafia operative Jack Ruby, whose foreknowledge of the assassination was revealed in FBI documents released in 2017. The documents reveal that a federal informant reported to his federal contact in 1977 that Ruby knew about the assassination in advance. The informant logically thought that this vital information would be of interest to the newly formed HSCA, and he assumed the FBI would make the HSCA aware of this information. The Dallas FBI office forwarded the documents about the informant's disclosure to FBI HQ, but FBI HQ did not give them to the HSCA and did not even tell the HSCA about them.
-- High-ranking CIA officer and avowed Kennedy hater William King Harvey. Mark Wyatt, who served as Harvey's aide in 1963, told his children and a French journalist that he saw Harvey on a flight to Dallas in November 1963, and that Harvey made comments to him soon after the assassination that indicated Harvey had either known about the murder in advance or had been involved in it. Wyatt’s daughter urged him to testify to the HSCA, but he could not bring himself to do it because of his sense of loyalty to the CIA.
-- CIA hitman David Sanchez Morales, who proudly admitted to two close associates in 1973 that he and some other CIA personnel "took care" of Kennedy in retribution for Kennedy's alleged treason in the Bay of Pigs operation. The two witnesses were Morales' lifelong friend, Ruben Carbajal, and Morales' attorney, Bob Walton. Morales made this admission to them at the same time in the same room. Both Carbajal and Walton confirmed this to HSCA investigator Gaeton Fonzi. Fonzi discussed this in his book The Last Investigation.
I'm pointing out these things for the sake of others, not because I have any hope that you will read any of the books that document this evidence.
Well, it's a start. So now tell us how the Mafia knew 6 weeks in advance of the assassination to place Oswald in the TSBD overlooking a motorcade route that had not yet even been planned. How did the conspirators get access to Oswald's Carcano rifle?
These questions will do for now. I'm sure I'll have more once I see your replies.
It's easy to propose a vague plot. The devil is in the details. That's what I never see CTs able to do. Hence the two questions I posed.
FYI. One of the first conspiracy books I read was Mafia Kingfish: Carlos Marcello and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy. That was about 35 years ago. I didn't find it very compelling. Two others were David Lifton's Best Evidence and Mark Lane's Plausible denial. It's not nice to speak ill of the dead so I just won't say anything at all about them.
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So you think asking you to tell us what you think happened is frivolous? That says a lot.
Well, it's a start. So now tell us how the Mafia knew 6 weeks in advance of the assassination to place Oswald in the TSBD overlooking a motorcade route that had not yet even been planned.
CT beanie back on (whew, I'm getting dizzy): I noticed you said this same thing as having been some sort of epiphany for you in the video with Fred Litwin. In my Mafia scenario, the lads didn't have to plant Oswald in the TSBD or know anything in advance about the motorcade route. Why would this be a necessity?
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CT beanie back on (whew, I'm getting dizzy): I noticed you said this same thing as having been some sort of epiphany for you in the video with Fred Litwin. In my Mafia scenario, the lads didn't have to plant Oswald in the TSBD or know anything in advance about the motorcade route. Why would this be a necessity?
If they intended to us Oswald as either the shooter or the patsy, they would need him in a place where he could do the deed. As it was, the route wasn't made public until Monday of that week. That would have meant they had four days to locate a suitable shooter/patsy. What evidence is there that anybody in the Mafia knew Oswald was working in the TSBD? Even if they knew, that is a very small amount of time to convince Oswald to be the shooter. If he was intended to be the patsy, how did they get him to make the preparations to retrieve his rifle from Irving, then make the trip on Thursday night to fetch the rifle, and smuggle it into the TSBD the next day. The same questions apply no matter who one hypothesizes was behind the assassination.
On, the other hand, it is perfectly plausible that Oswald upon learning the motorcade would be passing directly in front of his workplace would hatch a scheme to take out JFK for reasons known only to him. It was a crime of opportunity.
If you disagree with my analysis, present a plausible explanation for how the Maffia, or anybody else could have hatched this plot using Oswald as either the shooter or the patsy.
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If they intended to us Oswald as either the shooter or the patsy, they would need him in a place where he could do the deed. As it was, the route wasn't made public until Monday of that week. That would have meant they had four days to locate a suitable shooter/patsy. What evidence is there that anybody in the Mafia knew Oswald was working in the TSBD? Even if they knew, that is a very small amount of time to convince Oswald to be the shooter. If he was intended to be the patsy, how did they get him to make the preparations to retrieve his rifle from Irving, then make the trip on Thursday night to fetch the rifle, and smuggle it into the TSBD the next day. The same questions apply no matter who one hypothesizes was behind the assassination.
On, the other hand, it is perfectly plausible that Oswald upon learning the motorcade would be passing directly in front of his workplace would hatch a scheme to take out JFK for reasons known only to him. It was a crime of opportunity.
If you disagree with my analysis, present a plausible explanation for how the Maffia, or anybody else could have hatched this plot using Oswald as either the shooter or the patsy.
Now you're arguing something different from it being a definitive conspiracy-killer that the Mafia would've had to place Oswald in the TSBD and known the motorcade route in advance.
The bare fact of JFK's upcoming trip to Dallas was known before Oswald even went to Mexico City. His uncle's relationship with Marcello was longstanding. If he was part of a Mafia plot, either as a knowing participant (as John Orr believes) or the perfect patsy, it may have been pure happenstance that his perch in the TSBD turned out to be ideal a few days before the deed. Had it not been, perhaps he would have been placed elsewhere.
I don't have to articulate an entire Mafia scenario. I will await what John Orr and Larry Schnapf come up with, in terms of both evidence and theory. I did happen to watch a video interview today of John Orr by Matt Douthit, and Orr said it was an "entirely Mafia" JFKA but didn't expand on how he thought Oswald had been brought into the plot.
I can agree that the LN scenario is a more plausible explanation, at least unless Orr and Schnapf can convincingly show that the one-gunman scenario is ballistically impossible. You are the one who said the realization that the conspirators would have had to have placed Oswald in the TSBD and known the motorcade route long in advance was what ended your days as a CTer. I simply say that your realization is not correct. While being open to the Mafia theory, I don't think for a moment anyone placed Oswald in the TSBD or knew the route long in advance.
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Now you're arguing something different from it being a definitive conspiracy-killer that the Mafia would've had to place Oswald in the TSBD and known the motorcade route in advance.
The bare fact of JFK's upcoming trip to Dallas was known before Oswald even went to Mexico City. His uncle's relationship with Marcello was longstanding. If he was part of a Mafia plot, either as a knowing participant (as John Orr believes) or the perfect patsy, it may have been pure happenstance that his perch in the TSBD turned out to be ideal a few days before the deed. Had it not been, perhaps he would have been placed elsewhere.
I don't have to articulate an entire Mafia scenario. I will await what John Orr and Larry Schnapf come up with, in terms of both evidence and theory. I did happen to watch a video interview today of John Orr by Matt Douthit, and Orr said it was an "entirely Mafia" JFKA but didn't expand on how he thought Oswald had been brought into the plot.
I can agree that the LN scenario is a more plausible explanation, at least unless Orr and Schnapf can convincingly show that the one-gunman scenario is ballistically impossible. You are the one who said the realization that the conspirators would have had to have placed Oswald in the TSBD and known the motorcade route long in advance was what ended your days as a CTer. I simply say that your realization is not correct. While being open to the Mafia theory, I don't think for a moment anyone placed Oswald in the TSBD or knew the route long in advance.
Knowing JFK was coming to Texas isn't specific enough knowledge to place Oswald in the TSBD. The only way that works using Oswald as either the shooter or the patsy is if you know he would have perch overlooking the motorcade route.
Three sites were under consideration for the luncheon. Had either of the other two been selected, the motorcade would have been routed down Main St. in a west-to-east direction, making a shot from the TSBD almost impossible. The decision to use the Trade Mart, which dictated an east-to-west route down Main St. was made by JBC. I've actually seen CTs over the years claim that JBC was complicit in the assassination, even though he would have known he would be placing both himself and his wife in harm's way. But nothing is too silly for some folks.
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Knowing JFK was coming to Texas isn't specific enough knowledge to place Oswald in the TSBD. The only way that works using Oswald as either the shooter or the patsy is if you know he would have perch overlooking the motorcade route.
Three sites were under consideration for the luncheon. Had either of the other two been selected, the motorcade would have been routed down Main St. in a west-to-east direction, making a shot from the TSBD almost impossible. The decision to use the Trade Mart, which dictated an east-to-west route down Main St. was made by JBC. I've actually seen CTs over the years claim that JBC was complicit in the assassination, even though he would have known he would be placing both himself and his wife in harm's way. But nothing is too silly for some folks.
You are (intentionally?) missing the point. No one has to place Oswald in the TSBD at all. No one has to know the motorcade route long in advance at all. They only have to know that JFK is coming to Dallas (or Miami, or Chicago) and that Oswald is someone amenable to an assassination plot, either as a participant or a perfect patsy if he can be convinced it's a pro-Castro plot. Orr has him as a reluctant but knowing participant because Marcello made him an offer he couldn't refuse. If the route had been different, Oswald presumably would have been shooting from a different location. There is indeed at least something resembling evidence that he scouted other possible locations in Dallas. As it turned out, the motorcade route was ideal for Oswald, especially if he was a patsy, and for a gunman in or on the Dal-Tex or County Records building. There simply is no compelling reason that conspirators had to have placed Oswald in the TSBD or known the motorcade route long in advance. I don't think Dan O'Meara's LBJ-Byrd-Cason-Shelley theory has Oswald being placed in the TSBD or the route being known in advance either.
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You are (intentionally?) missing the point. No one has to place Oswald in the TSBD at all. No one has to know the motorcade route long in advance at all. They only have to know that JFK is coming to Dallas (or Miami, or Chicago) and that Oswald is someone amenable to an assassination plot, either as a participant or a perfect patsy if he can be convinced it's a pro-Castro plot. Orr has him as a reluctant but knowing participant because Marcello made him an offer he couldn't refuse. If the route had been different, Oswald presumably would have been shooting from a different location. There is indeed at least something resembling evidence that he scouted other possible locations in Dallas. As it turned out, the motorcade route was ideal for Oswald, especially if he was a patsy, and for a gunman in or on the Dal-Tex or County Records building. There simply is no compelling reason that conspirators had to have placed Oswald in the TSBD or known the motorcade route long in advance. I don't think Dan O'Meara's LBJ-Byrd-Cason-Shelley theory has Oswald being placed in the TSBD or the route being known in advance either.
How do you get Oswald into another position to kill JFK. If the motorcade went down Main St. west-to-east he would have faced an almost impossible cross shot from a block away and would be lucky to get off more than one shot as the limo passes the intersection of Main and Houston. The other possibility is the motorcade would have taken Commerce to Houston and then taken Houston to Main to begin the trek through downtown. That presents a whole different set of problems for a shooter from the TSBD.
How do you get him into another building with his rifle? He had no car and didn't know how to drive. If you have somebody take him to another location, that pretty much shoots down the narrative that he was acting alone.
I don't think Oswald would have attempted the assassination if the motorcade had not be routed down Elm St. It was a crime of opportunity. I also can't imagine conspirators using Oswald as a shooter or a patsy if the motorcade had not been routed down Elm St.
Your difficulty in coming up with a plausible scenario using Oswald as a shooter or patsy should tell you why this question was instrumental in me doubting any and all conspiracy theories. There would have to be a plausible explanation for how the conspirators could have known well in advance that TSBD employee Oswald would be useful to them as either the shooter or he patsy. If you are going to postulate him as the patsy, you would also need an explanation for why he was such a cooperative patsy.
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How do you get Oswald into another position to kill JFK. If the motorcade went down Main St. west-to-east he would have faced an almost impossible cross shot from a block away and would be lucky to get off more than one shot as the limo passes the intersection of Main and Houston. The other possibility is the motorcade would have taken Commerce to Houston and then taken Houston to Main to begin the trek through downtown. That presents a whole different set of problems for a shooter from the TSBD.
How do you get him into another building with his rifle? He had no car and didn't know how to drive. If you have somebody take him to another location, that pretty much shoots down the narrative that he was acting alone.
I don't think Oswald would have attempted the assassination if the motorcade had not be routed down Elm St. It was a crime of opportunity. I also can't imagine conspirators using Oswald as a shooter or a patsy if the motorcade had not been routed down Elm St.
Your difficulty in coming up with a plausible scenario using Oswald as a shooter or patsy should tell you why this question was instrumental in me doubting any and all conspiracy theories. There would have to be a plausible explanation for how the conspirators could have known well in advance that TSBD employee Oswald would be useful to them as either the shooter or he patsy. If you are going to postulate him as the patsy, you would also need an explanation for why he was such a cooperative patsy.
Oswald was a well-known commodity to the pro- and anti-Castro communities, especially in New Orleans – Marcello’s turf – long before the JFKA. His uncle Dutz Murret had underworld connections, which in New Orleans meant Marcello connections; the Oswald-Dutz relationship was not a distant one by any means, and Oswald knew of Dutz’s shady activities and discussed them with Marina. JFK’s trip to Dallas was known in September before Oswald visited Mexico City and reportedly made JFK-related threats. I have no idea precisely whose radar Oswald may have been on before or after his employment at the TSBD, but there are numerous possibilities for him coming to the attention of Marcello as either a possible JFKA participant or a patsy.
Also distinctly odd is Oswald’s inquiry about employment at the Allright Parking Garage just a week before the JFKA and his curious interest in the height of the building and its view of downtown Dallas. https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth190240/m1/1/. I muse upon this oddity here: https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4612.0.html.
It’s entirely possible, it seems to me, that Oswald had been recruited into a JFKA plot before the motorcade route was finalized and then – voila – the TSBD in which he happened to be employed turned out to be perfect for both a patsy and a pro in the Dal-Tex or County Records building when the route was finalized. I have a hard time with Orr’s theory of Oswald as a knowing participant because having him shoot from TSBD6 would have been fantastically, absurdly risky for the Mafia (i.e., if he had even the faintest inkling that this was a Mafia plot), but I can easily see him as a patsy in what he thought was a pro-Castro plot, with Marcello et al. having no reason to care if he was captured or killed.
My level of conviction is probably 80% that the LN narrative is true and 20% that a Mafia plot is true, but that 20% could go up substantially if Orr’s trajectory analysis delivers all that he and Schnapf seem to promise.