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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Lance Payette on May 18, 2026, 02:35:04 PM
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As stated, I find Oswald the man the most interesting aspect of the JFKA. I’ve read everything there is about him, and my sister-in-law and her husband worked in the Minsk factory at the same time. I think I “know” him about as well as he can be known.
I’m a provisional Lone Nutter but troubled by several aspects of the narrative, including the one I’ll describe here. The standard LN response is, “The evidence says he did it. It doesn’t matter who he was, why he did it, or what was going on inside his head.” Well ...
When he took a shot at Walker (we’ll assume he did), he left behind a detailed note, and Marina said he arrived home in a state of considerable agitation. Compare the JFKA.
1. I’m puzzled by his behavior at the Paine home the evening before the JFKA. He begs Marina to join him in Dallas, makes promises, and gives absolutely no clue he is contemplating the JFKA. He leaves no note.
2. He has long been convinced he is destined for a place in history and has written fairly extensively about his views, but he leaves no explanation or manifesto concerning the JFKA. There is nothing like this in his room on Beckley.
3. He shoots JFK, stashes the rifle, scurries down the stairs, hears Baker and Truly coming up – but then is utterly calm and collected when Baker confronts him and sticks a gun in his stomach.
4. He exits the TSBD, boards a bus, leaves the bus and hails a taxi – but then offers the taxi to an older woman who approaches.
5. He is grilled by Fritz, who is a legend for wheedling confessions out of suspects – but he is so cocky and unflappable that Fritz not only fails to break him but emerges speculating that he has been trained to avoid interrogation.
6. In custody, he tells his brother Robert, “Don’t believe the so-called evidence.”
7. In custody for more than 36 hours, and despite the seemingly compelling evidence against him, he never cracks or gives anything other than flat denials of his involvement in the JFKA and Tippit shooting.
I at least find this all bizarre enough to contemplate that “something more” than the LN narrative may have been going on. It seems to me inadequate to say, "The evidence says he did it and nothing else matters." Yes, Oswald was a massive liar even when lying served no purpose, but all of the above is extremely odd and gives me pause about Oswald as a Lone Nut who just snapped. The problem is, I have no real theory as to what the “something more” might be that would explain his behavior. "He was a wholly innocent patsy" would do it, of course, but that just doesn't fit the evidence unless one postulates a conspiracy so elaborate as to be comical.
Fascinating.
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LP--
Well, we are on different pages on this one.
LHO appeared to be a dedicated Marxist, and in something of a dead-end in his own life. LHO met with KGB'ers in MC, G2-ers in MC and possibly NO, and lived near a KGB regional HQ in Minsk.
LHO had a proclivity for shooting at major public figures, see Walker.
Whether LHO was entirely sane 11.22 is an open question. He may not have acted rationally, by any standards. What sane person goes around shooting at major public figures?
On firmer ground--
I have reasonable doubts Gov. JBC did a 180-degree turn in his seat after being shot through his chest, and that JBC held onto his Stetson hat in his right hand after being shot through his right wrist by a large slug that "tumbled" inside his wrist, causing a lot of damage. The WC LN theorists contend JBC was ~Z-223.
For his part, JBC said,
Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)
JBC appears to be shoved forward ~Z-295. Less than one second before Z-313.
So the WC narrative does not hold water. There is more, but I will let it go at that.
LHO likely shot at JFK with his M-C short rifle, but that was a single-shot per bolt action rifle. LHO could not get off a shot at Z-295 and then Z-313.
There it stands.
The WC was on the LN track from the get-go, that is hardly disputed.
My guess is LHO and a couple G-2'ers perped the JFKA.
A low-budget op, concocted in the three days after it became public the motorcade would make a hairpin turn right in front of the TSBD. Where LHO worked. That was just (bad) luck.
But an excellent location for a sniper's nest.
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Ben, nice job of derailing!
It appears you have become rather fixated on JBC and your G2 scenario, which have nothing to do with my original post.
I don't see that Oswald being a "dedicated Marxist" or shooting at Walker really addresses my points. Indeed, those things to some extent cut the other way. A dedicated Marxist who left no manifesto? An Oswald who left a note and arrived home in a state of agitation when he shot at Walker?
Yes, I can articulate (and have) an Oswald who was at the end of his rope for a variety of reasons and made the JFKA his last act of defiance. This STILL doesn't explain what troubles me, as set forth in my OP.
"He knew something" not accounted for by the LN narrative comes closer to an explanation - but WHAT did he know? (Yes, CTers, I know: "He knew he was COMPLETELY INNOCENT!!!" Nah, doesn't work.)