JFK Assassination Forum
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Tom Graves on May 16, 2026, 08:29:37 AM
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Why does the JFK Assassination attract so many MAGATs?
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TG--
James DiEugenio and Oliver Stone are not "MAGATs" and people like them are legion on the left-ideology side of the JFKA research base, and they excuse Putin everything.
They excuse North Vietnam everything, Pol Pot everything, Viet Cong everything, Castro everything, Beijing everything, Hamas everything, the IRGC everything, and so on.
On the JFKA left, the bad guys are only Americans and Israelis. Maybe some Brits.
I do not understand the MAGA supporters, or Biden supporters, who tolerate 1 million dead in Ukraine as a passing thought.
Trump has failed the Free World on the Ukraine issue. Biden was squishy.
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TG--
James DiEugenio and Oliver Stone are not "MAGATs" and people like them are legion on the left-ideology side of the JFKA research base, and they excuse Putin everything.
They excuse North Vietnam everything, Pol Pot everything, Viet Cong everything, Castro everything, Beijing everything, Hamas everything, the IRGC everything, and so on.
On the JFKA left, the bad guys are only Americans and Israelis. Maybe some Brits.
I do not understand the MAGA supporters, or Biden supporters, who tolerate 1 million dead in Ukraine as a passing thought.
Trump has failed the Free World on the Ukraine issue. Biden was squishy.
Dear "BC,"
What Biden supporters give "one million dead in Ukraine a passing thought"?
Were you hoping Biden would give Ukraine Javelins sooner than he did?
On what issue has Trump not failed the Free World?
-- "TG"
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I've never seen any correlation between one's political leanings and their views on the JFK assassination. People of all political stripes have come down on both sides of the conspiracy question.
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I've never seen any correlation between one's political leanings and their views on the JFK assassination. People of all political stripes have come down on both sides of the conspiracy question.
One never used to see (or be aware of) so many vocal far-right jerks as there seem to be now.
Maybe it's because there are more of them, and it's because they've been so zombified by 60-plus years of KGB disinformation, "active measures," and "inside man / outside man" strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies that they've conflated Peter Dale Scott's and Comrade Oliver Stone's "Deep State" with Steve Bannon's "Administrative State."
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One never used to see (or be aware of) so many vocal far-right jerks as there seem to be now.
Maybe it's because there are more of them now, and it's because they've been so zombified by 60-plus years of KGB disinformation, "active measures," and "inside man / outside man" strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies that they've conflated Peter Dale Scott's and Comrade Oliver Stone's "Deep State" with Steve Bannon's "Administrative State."
What we need is funding to find a cure for TDS.
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I've never seen any correlation between one's political leanings and their views on the JFK assassination. People of all political stripes have come down on both sides of the conspiracy question.
I certainly did. A few months after I joined the Ed Forum, I was struck by the leftist-leaning sympathies of seemingly all the participants. They all seemed to have a dreamy-eyed near-worship of JFK and utopian notions of what the country would be like today if he and RFK had lived. I actually started a thread on the topic, which clearly hit a nerve because it was met with howls of umbrage. As it turns out, this was before the emergence of The Donald. The emergence of The Donald has fractured everything so badly that intelligible theories are hard to formulate. My observation would be that LNers tend to be conservative while CTers of the CIA-did-it ilk tend to be liberal, but that's probably painting with too broad a brush. Possibly it's no more complex than "Whatever The Donald finds interesting the MAGA folks ipso facto find interesting." Trump is a wacky conspiracy sort of guy; ergo, we are wacky conspiracy sorts of folks. I don't really see an ideological basis, as I saw at the Ed Forum.
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What we need is funding to find a cure for TDS.
"Trump Derangement Syndrome" perfectly describes what MAGATS, who, like Trump, simply can't accept the fact that he lost the 2020 election, are suffering from.
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I certainly did. A few months after I joined the Ed Forum, I was struck by the leftist-leaning sympathies of seemingly all the participants. They all seemed to have a dreamy-eyed near-worship of JFK and utopian notions of what the country would be like today if he and RFK had lived. I actually started a thread on the topic, which clearly hit a nerve because it was met with howls of umbrage. As it turns out, this was before the emergence of The Donald. The emergence of The Donald has fractured everything so badly that intelligible theories are hard to formulate. My observation would be that LNers tend to be conservative while CTers of the CIA-did-it ilk tend to be liberal, but that's probably painting with too broad a brush. Possibly it's no more complex than "Whatever The Donald finds interesting the MAGA folks ipso facto find interesting." Trump is a wacky conspiracy sort of guy; ergo, we are wacky conspiracy sorts of folks. I don't really see an ideological basis, as I saw at the Ed Forum.
It's funny that a lot of far-left JFKA buffs voted for The Traitorous Orange Turd -- because he promised to release the files on George Joaniddes or some-such thing.
The KGB's multi-decade efforts to get a "useful idiot" (or worse) person like Trump elected finally paid off in 2016, thanks in-part to the efforts of the likes of Joachim Joesten, Thomas G. Buchanan, Mark Lane, overly ambitious, scandal-plagued, and revengeful Jim Garrison, Paese Sera newspaper and Ralph Schoenman, Oliver Stone, Jim DiEugenio, and Oliver Stone (did I already mention him?).
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There are right wing conspiracy believers as well. Several of the talking heads at Fox have expressed on air their beliefs in a conspiracy. Jesse Watters and Joey Jones to name a few. Liberal Bill Maher has also indicated he believes there was a conspiracy. On the other hand, Vincent Bugliosi was very much a leftist and there has never been a stauncher defender of the WC than him.
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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" perfectly describes what MAGATS, who, like Trump, simply can't accept the fact that he lost the 2020 election, are suffering from.
Looking back, I'm glad Trump lost in 2020. If he hadn't, he wouldn't be POTUS now. That also spreads out the pain of those suffering from TDS from 8 years to 12.
Assuming he leftist media don't inspire a competent assassin, Trump will tie Grover Cleveland for the second longest period from his first day in office until his last. FDR will have beaten them both by 39 days.