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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Robin Unger on April 28, 2026, 11:57:40 AM
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Bell Film Gif.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pVjFsChr/Bell-7.gif)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/tRFzspzx/Bell-2.gif)
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Officer Haygood as he leaves his motorcycle and start running up the grassy knoll.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jjRpFMSx/Bell-5.gif)
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Jean Hill, Mary Morman, Charles Brehm, Babushka lady.
We see Jean Hill and Babushka lady running up the steps leading to the car-park area.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrShkG0q/Bell-6.gif)
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Here are 2 gifs of the Bell footage.
Robin Unger's gif(s) (see OP) might have better quality frames than my gifs.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xNr8BB5/bell-9jan2023-ezgif.gif)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZkWsXsq/gif-15f199de-616c-4578-94c6-4cd9f77b45d1.gif)
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Here is a giff i found on this forum -- i forget where, & who.
It shows Hoffman's Falcon in a Bell early sequence.
I could make a giff of Hoffman's Falcon stopping in Bell's much later sequence, but there are only about 4 frames, mostly blurry, not worth it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hjKZ4b57/bell-giff-falcon.gif)
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I reckon that Bell took footage from 3 locations, shown by the stars.
I triangulated various features in various frames.
1. Here Bell is on a pedestal at the North Peristyle (as seen in the photo). [edit][see reply #13][bell was actually on the eastern end of the pedestal wall]
2. Bell jumps down, & then climbs down onto the raised garden bed to (2).
Bell isn’t seen at (2) in Bronson's photo or film koz Bell is late, or praps he is hidden by the peristyle.
I doubt that Bell's pozzy (2) was in the peristyle. I prefer that he was down in the garden.
3. Bell crosses to the south of Main St.
In the Daniel footage (Robin Unger gallery Daniel 47/180) we can briefly see someone who is too far south (right) to be Bell, & too near to be Bell, & too soon to be Bell.
And the area in the garden bed is very dark, possibly shaded by a tree, hence Bell could be there but not vizible.
Bell's footage has lots of stops/starts, & lots of blurred fast panning, & times when he changes lens.
And its all made more confusing koz i think that some youtubes have mixed up the sequences.
After Bell crosses to the south of Main St, (i think) we can see Bell in Underwood's footage (it has been said that it is not Darnell's footage) [edit 1Oct2021][James advises that the footage is probly Darnell] taken a long time after Bell has stopped filming at (3).
Bell is one of the 2 figures – i think he is the figure on the left, nearer Main St.
So, Bell hung around for a while.
Hmmmm -- i have changed my mind -- i think Bell is the figure on the right -- the figure on the left might be the big guy that was up on the pedestal with Bell at (1).
James Hackerott.
I was looking for a film clip taken from the top of the knoll four to five minutes after the assassination. Some researchers assign it to Darnell, but it was not in Darnell, or Couch either. I'm thinking it probably was filmed by Jim Underwood after he filmed and followed the crowd climbing the knoll steps.
[edit 1Oct2021][James advises that the footage is probly Darnell]
4. Later, Bell took some footage of Dealey Plaza from his workplace (an upper floor of the postal building south of Commerce St)(not shown here).
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJnqwKFR/a-Bell-s-locations.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MGM8rKHH/a-Bell-on-pedestal-in-north-peristyle.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/yYDpYwqQ/daniel-view-of-peristyle-47-cropped.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zGXg340R/google-daniel-view-of-peristyle.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQ8JY1BT/a-Bell-in-Underwood-south-of-main-st.jpg)
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In this printscreen that i made of a youtube of the Bell footage
we can see the top say 30 inches of Officer Murphy
(standing on the eastern side of the Stemmons overpass)(hi up on his 3-wheeler).
Our view of him is mostly blocked by the overhead signs.
The JFK limo will pass under him in about 10 sec as it enters the Stemmons on-ramp.
We know its Murphy koz that dark lump duznt appear in early frames, & is seen in later frames.
Murphy appears to be very high up. I am fairly certain that there aint any high curb for him to stand on.
I suspect that he heard the shooting & sirens & he stood high up on his 3-wheeler.
Murphy heard Oswald's shot-1 at 0.8 sec after Z113, then Oswald's shot-2 5.7 sec later at Z218, then Hickey's shots-123456 5.0 sec later at Z313.
It calculates to 5.2 sec but i had to deduct 0.2 sec koz of the diff in travel times for the sound of shots by Oswald who is further away than Hickey.
Murphy wasn't visible in Bell's footage when JFK's limo was half in shade entering the triple underpass at Z468.
And then Murphy was fully up & visible at Z470 when the limo was 3/4 in shade.
Z313 to Z468 is 55 frames ie 3.0 sec, hence Murphy reacted to the final shots in 2.5 sec (allowing 0.5 sec for the speed of sound).
Yes, Murphy didnt react to Óswald's shots, but Hickey's auto burst finally did the trick.
We can see say 2.5 ft of Murphy over the signage, & the signage is 61 yd away from him, which is 1/5th
of the distance to Bell (308 yd), hence that 2.5 ft gains him say 12.5 ft of extra vertical vision at Bell, but Bell is standing in the peristyle, or in the garden bed in front of the peristyle,
& that 12.5 ft has to be measured down from the level of Bell's camera.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DwSzMpTx/bell-Murphy.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bbpmj9q3/bell-Murphy.jpg)
Actually, Robin Unger's gallery of Bell's footage has 56/208 which shows Murphy high up over the signage.
In my other thread i show that one of Robin's frames shows that later Murphy moves to the western barrier after JFK & Co have passed.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HsmYrLFj/Bell-56of208.jpg)
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A comparison of the height of Bell's camera in the Bell frames versus today's google street view i think suggests that Bell
was not standing in the peristyle, more likely he was standing lower, eg in the garden bed below the peristyle (ie having jumped down).
Standing in the garden, Bell's camera would have been level with the concrete barricade here (based on other photos that i saw),
which would be say 3 ft lower than when standing inside the barrier (not a lot of difference).
(https://i.postimg.cc/QC6bv8Fh/google-view-from-peristyle-closeup-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQ6fcvCb/google-view-from-peristyle-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bbpmj9q3/bell-Murphy.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nc8Xp76c/aa-bell-14-hoffman-sitting-at-lookout.jpg)
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Altgens 7 crop
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/Gallery/Altgens%20Gallery/alt7crop_small.jpg)
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Cabluck.
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/Gallery/Cabluck%20Gallery/cabluck%20knoll%203_small.jpg)
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/Gallery/Cabluck%20Gallery/cabluck2_small.jpg)
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Interesting that McIntyre left the backup car temporarily as it was proceeding under the overpass.