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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on March 14, 2026, 12:39:00 PM
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S.M. Holland's "Smoke" on the Grassy Knoll
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S. M. Holland and Mark Lane in a scene from Rush to Judgment.
There are some serious inconsistencies with S.M. Holland's statements and testimony about his supposed sighting of "smoke" on the grassy knoll.
Here is his statement to the Sheriff's Department:
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Holland says that "I heard what I thought for the moment was a fire cracker and he slumped over and I looked over toward the arcade and trees and saw a puff of smoke," and then he heard three more shots. The only puff of smoke he saw came from the first shot.
Which would mean that the fatal head shot would not have come from the grassy knoll, according to Holland.
He also said that "everything is spinning in my head."
Here is the FBI report on S. M. Holland:
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The FBI report states that "one of the officers in the front seat of the Presidential car stood up with a machine gun in his hands and was looking back from the car when it immediately speeded up, throwing this officer back across the front seat."
This did not happen. The Secret Service agent who drew his AR-15 was George Hickey in the follow-up car. And he did not fall back on the seat.
Here is an excerpt of S. M. Holland's Warren Commission testimony:
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Holland located those shots at the southeast corner of the Texas School Book Depository (he wasn't sure how high) and that a later shot came from the knoll and created the smoke. This is not what he said in his initial statement.
Holland also discusses two of the motorcycle officers:
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Once again, Officer Hargood tried to go up the embankment but he couldn't jump the curb. He left his motorcycle there running and ran up the grassy knoll. Holland clearly saw him and so this was several seconds after the shots.
When Holland was interviewed by Mark Lane, his story changed somewhat:
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Now Holland is saying the smoke came from the second shot, but not from the third shot which hit JFK in the head. And so the head shot, according to Holland, did not come from the grassy knoll.
But then Holland says something different again:
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Now the third shot came from the grassy knoll and the first two shots came from the Texas School Book Depository. It's really hard to understand Holland's sequence of shots.
In 1966, Holland said that the third and fourth shots hit JFK in the head: (pages 85 - 86 in Six Seconds in Dallas)
Thompson: Is it your opinion then ... What is your opinion? That the third and fourth did hit the President?
Holland: My opinion is that the third and the fourth shot did hit the President.
Thompson: In the head?
Holland: In the head.
In any case, the smoke drifted from under the trees:
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In fact, the smoke lingered:
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Holland was about sixty-five to seventy yards away from where he saw the smoke. The wind was quite strong in Dealey Plaza that afternoon -- so strong that Officer Marrion Baker was blown off his motorcycle.
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In addition, the wind might have been even stronger than reports because of the cavernous effect of Dealey Plaza. Vincent Bugliosi talked to Willie Brown, a meteorologist in Asheville, North Carolina:
I've been to Dealey Plaza, and as you know there are many tall buildings in the area. When the wind, like water, is funneled through a smaller channel -- here, between buildings -- the wind will always speed up, sometimes considerably. You're forcing the same volume of air through a smaller area. It's simple physics. In a water example, a wide river may not flow rapidly, but when funneled through a narrow canyon its velocity pics up immediately.
S. M. Holland saw a few things that did not happen -- the Secret Service agent pulling his AR-15 in the Presidential car, and a motorcycle going up the embankment. Perhaps he also got the smoke wrong.
In all likelihood, a lot of what Holland saw melded in his mind. There were several ways he could have seen some smoke -- from cigarettes, from an exhaust pipe, or perhaps steam. Remember the assassination happened quickly and human beings are not video recorders.
Here is what Holland told Josiah Thompson: (page 72 in Last Second in Dallas)
Right under these trees, right at that exact spot, about ten or fifteen feet from this corner, the corner of the fence here, back this way right under this clump of trees, right under this tree ... That's where it was, just like somebody had clump [sic] a firecracker out and leave a little puff of smoke there; it was just laying there. It was white smoke. It wasn't black smoke or like a black powder. It was like a puff of a cigarette.
Yes, it was "like a puff of a cigarette."
Thompson was with Ed Kern of Life Magazine and while Holland denied it was cigarette smoke, here is what he said when they asked him about modern-day guns and ammunition, which shouldn't leave smoke:
The powder still fires. Now I know this much about hunting and guns: the smoke is not near like it was ten years ago. When you shoot you see a black puff of smoke ... just like a steam engine. They have it refined now. But you fire a gun, any gun, from a light underneath this shade you'll see a puff of smoke that'll linger there. It'll be, just like I say, dim, like a cigarette ....
Now Holland says a gun will emit black smoke but he saw white smoke on the knoll, And, once again, he brings up a cigarette. And, of course, he told Thompson that he noticed "three, four, or five cigarette butts" behind the fence.
S. M. Holland told CBS he might have seen cigarette smoke.
It is interesting that Thompson was with Ed Kern from Life Magazine but he doesn't mention anything in Last Second in Dallas about the rifle test his reporters had done -- nor does Thompson say anything about Kern's conclusion that Holland's story was a "picturesque invention after the fact."
Todd Vaughan has another possibility. He recently wrote on Facebook:
I just reviewed my very clear digital copy of the Bell film. It appears both the Presidential Limousine and the Secret Service Follow-Up cars are giving off very visible smoke as they accelerate toward and through the Triple Underpass.
Holland was still watching when this happened. Could he have seen smoke from the limousine and just thought it was from the knoll?
I'll conclude once again, with this paragraph from Stephen White's book, Should We Now Believe the Warren Report?: (page 67)
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A man stood up holding a machine gun & then fell down.
After the first shot.
A 4 or 5 or 6 shot burst from the AR15 would hav made smoke.
And the later shot or a later shot (ie after the first) shot was louder.
Hickey accidentally shot jfk in the head.
As per Donahue & Menninger, & as per McLaren (but they somehow did not twig that Hickey fired a long auto burst).
Anyhow, we hav about 4 witnesses who saw a man stand up holding a machine gun.
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A man stood up holding a machine gun & then fell down.
After the first shot.
A 4 or 5 or 6 shot burst from the AR15 would hav made smoke.
And the later shot or a later shot (ie after the first) shot was louder.
Hickey accidentally shot jfk in the head.
As per Donahue & Menninger, & as per McLaren (but they somehow did not twig that Hickey fired a long auto burst).
Anyhow, we hav about 4 witnesses who saw a man stand up holding a machine gun.
I don't think that anyone disputes SA Hickey stood up with the AR-15 when the JFK Limo was still on Elm St. Too bad there are no images of Hickey doing this at Z313. Of course, Hickey standing up with the AR-15, would have also been at the same time that SA Lem Johns claims to have jumped out of the LBJ SS Car and was running down Elm St toward the JFK Limo. Personally, I believe it is no coincidence that there is absolutely No Image Evidence of these 2 events having ever happened. Both happened at the same time, both in the same general area, and both have been erased from the pictorial history of the JFK Assassination. This specific area, this specific point in time, have become an 11/22/63 Dealey Plaza Black Hole in time. SA Hickey was spotted by Wiegman "up the knoll", when Wiegman ran up there and eventually filmed both Hester's. This Lem Johns sighting is documented in Trask's "Pictures Of The Pain". (This is important due to SA John's claiming he never physically left Elm St). This Lem Johns on-the-knoll sighting, along with Hickey waving the AR-15 around had to be erased from the record. Hence this 11/22/63 "Black Hole" in time.
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The value of Holland's account is not the smoke stuff, but his being 1 of the 1st individuals to be back inside the parking lot on the other side of the picket fence. Still, as we can see, Holland was no spring chicken on 11//22/63. I think it took him awhile to run?/walk down the Triple Underpass and then hang a (R) and enter the parking lot. Once Holland got on the outskirts of the parking lot, he had to contend with the cars being jammed inside that parking lot. And again, this guy is no Indian Rubber Man. For him to navigate his way around those cars, probably means it took him some time before arriving at the cigarette butts and the mud on the picket fence, etc. By this time a possible shooter was long gone. Also, I have never heard/read of Holland saying anything about seeing DPD Officer Smith back there or of Holland possibly smelling gunpowder. Just my opinion, But I believe that Holland actually got back inside the parking lot several minutes after the kill shot.
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I don't think that anyone disputes SA Hickey stood up with the AR-15 when the JFK Limo was still on Elm St. Too bad there are no images of Hickey doing this at Z313. Of course, Hickey standing up with the AR-15, would have also been at the same time that SA Lem Johns claims to have jumped out of the LBJ SS Car and was running down Elm St toward the JFK Limo. Personally, I believe it is no coincidence that there is absolutely No Image Evidence of these 2 events having ever happened. Both happened at the same time, both in the same general area, and both have been erased from the pictorial history of the JFK Assassination. This specific area, this specific point in time, have become an 11/22/63 Dealey Plaza Black Hole in time. SA Hickey was spotted by Wiegman "up the knoll", when Wiegman ran up there and eventually filmed both Hester's. This Lem Johns sighting is documented in Trask's "Pictures Of The Pain". (This is important due to SA John's claiming he never physically left Elm St). This Lem Johns on-the-knoll sighting, along with Hickey waving the AR-15 around had to be erased from the record. Hence this 11/22/63 "Black Hole" in time.
Bronson footage shows Hickey rizing then falling at Z313 then fallen back.
Then we allso hav Bell's footage of Hickey holding the AR15 all the way to the TUP, but that footage (two bursts of footage actually) starts a few seconds after Z313.
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Bronson footage shows Hickey rizing then falling at Z313 then fallen back.
Then we allso hav Bell's footage of Hickey holding the AR15 all the way to the TUP, but that footage (two bursts of footage actually) starts a few seconds after Z313.
So where can I view this footage that CLEARLY shows SA Hickey doing everything you claim? Hickey was seated higher than everyone else inside the Queen Mary. Hickey picking up the AR-15 from the floorboard and then leaning back into a seated position, could be your seeing him, "rizing then falling....". Where are you seeing all of this SA Hickey jack-in-the-box action film footage?
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:D A dozen people saw steam from a sealed pipeline that smelled like gunpowder.
...and they all have nothing to do with each other.
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:D A dozen people saw steam from a sealed pipeline that smelled like gunpowder.
...and they all have nothing to do with each other.
As I mentioned earlier, that steam pipe is right on top of the grate that some claim was used by an assassin to escape from the parking lot. The claim being that the alleged "steam" was actually the cigarette smoke from a shooter that then used that grate. The "steam" stuff is just like the "cigarette smoke". Pure imagination.