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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Tom Graves on February 05, 2026, 07:24:30 AM
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ME: Has Oliver Stone's 1991 film, "JFK," negatively affected the psyche of our body politic?
GROK: Yes, Oliver Stone's 1991 film JFK has had a profound and lasting effect on the psyche of the American body politic. It significantly amplified distrust in government institutions, mainstreamed conspiracy thinking about the Kennedy assassination (and beyond), and contributed to a broader cultural shift toward skepticism of official narratives that persists today.
The film, starring Kevin Costner as New Orleans DA Jim Garrison, presented a dramatic, multi-layered conspiracy theory implicating the CIA, military-industrial complex, FBI, Mafia, and others in a coup d'état to eliminate President Kennedy over his alleged plans to end the Cold War and withdraw from Vietnam. While critics and historians widely condemned it for blending fact with speculation (and outright fabrication in places), its cinematic power—rapid editing, documentary-style footage interwoven with dramatization, and intense performances—made it a cultural phenomenon. It grossed over $200 million worldwide, earned eight Oscar nominations (winning two for technical categories), and sparked intense national debate.
Key impacts include:
Spike in belief in conspiracy theories — Polls show that skepticism of the Warren Commission's "lone gunman" conclusion (Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone) was already growing in the 1970s–80s due to events like Watergate, Vietnam revelations, and the House Select Committee on Assassinations (1979, which suggested a probable conspiracy). But JFK turbocharged this: Post-release surveys indicated that around 75–80% of Americans believed in some form of conspiracy (e.g., Gallup data from the early 1990s peaked at high levels after the film's release). Even decades later, polls (Gallup 2013–2023) consistently show 60–65% rejecting the lone-gunman account. Studies, including one on the psychological effects of viewing the film, found it increased viewers' belief in conspiracies, heightened emotions like anger and suspicion toward government, and reduced faith in official accounts.
Direct political consequence — The film's controversy and public outcry over perceived government secrecy led Congress to pass the JFK Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992, creating the Assassination Records Review Board. This mandated the release of millions of pages of previously classified documents (99% now public as of recent years), though some redactions remain. Historians and experts credit Stone's movie as the catalyst that forced greater transparency, even if it didn't resolve debates.
Broader cultural and psychological legacy — JFK helped normalize "conspiracy nation" thinking in American discourse. Commentators argue it paved the way for later phenomena: 9/11 trutherism, birtherism, QAnon, anti-vax movements, election denialism, and a general erosion of trust in institutions. It tapped into (and amplified) a post-1960s sense of lost "American innocence," portraying the assassination as the moment when shadowy powers subverted democracy. This resonated especially with younger audiences who hadn't lived through 1963, fostering a generational cynicism. Some describe it as injecting paranoia into the national psyche, where official stories are reflexively doubted, and "alternative facts" gain traction.
Critics (from historians to media outlets) have called it dangerous for misleading the public and distorting history, while defenders praise it for sparking inquiry and challenging authority. Stone himself has defended it as a "counter-myth" to provoke thought.
In short, JFK didn't invent conspiracy beliefs about the assassination—they predated it—but it mainstreamed them dramatically, influenced policy on document releases, and contributed to a more distrustful, fragmented political culture that echoes in today's polarized environment. Its effect on the collective American psyche remains one of the most significant from any single film in modern history.
ME: Is it true that "JFK" was partly based on Garrison's 1988 book, "On the Trail of the Assassins," the ultimate origin of which was an anti-Clay Shaw / anti-CIA article published in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper, Paese Sera, four days after Garrison had arrested Shaw on suspicion of having organized a homosexual "thrill kill" assassination, and which theory Garrison changed to "he organized it for the CIA" after reading the article?
GROK: Yes, the claim is largely true, though with some nuances and qualifications on the details and exact sequence. Oliver Stone's 1991 film JFK was indeed partly based on Jim Garrison's 1988 memoir On the Trail of the Assassins, which recounts his investigation and the 1967–1969 prosecution of Clay Shaw for conspiring to assassinate President Kennedy.
The book's (and Garrison's) core narrative about Shaw's alleged CIA ties originated in significant part from a March 4, 1967, article in the Italian newspaper Paese Sera (published just three days after Garrison arrested Shaw on March 1, 1967). Paese Sera was a left-wing paper with documented ties to the Italian Communist Party and a history of serving as a conduit for Soviet/KGB disinformation (dezinformatsiya), as detailed in declassified CIA analyses and historical accounts (e.g., Max Holland's research and CIA's own internal reviews).Key elements aligning with the claim:
Initial arrest and theory: When Garrison arrested Shaw (a prominent New Orleans businessman who was gay), his early framing of the case leaned toward a "homosexual thrill-killing" motive. Garrison reportedly described the assassination to journalists and associates as a sadistic act involving Shaw, David Ferrie (another gay suspect who died before trial), and Oswald—driven by resentment toward Kennedy's virility, success, and appeal. This drew from homophobic stereotypes of the era, including reports of whips/chains/leather items found in Shaw's home and witness accounts tying suspects to New Orleans' gay scene. Historians (e.g., Alecia Long in Cruising for Conspirators) and contemporary sources confirm this phase of Garrison's thinking.
Shift after the article: Shortly after the arrest, Garrison received and seized upon the Paese Sera piece, which alleged Shaw was linked to the CIA via his board membership in the Centro Mondiale Commerciale (CMC, a Rome-based trade organization tied to Permindex). The paper claimed CMC was a CIA front for funding espionage and anti-Communist activities in Europe. This was amplified by other Communist-aligned outlets (e.g., l'Unità, l'Humanité, Pravda). Garrison pivoted to emphasize a CIA-orchestrated conspiracy, portraying Shaw as a key operative rather than primarily a participant in a "thrill kill." Accounts from journalists like James Phelan (who interviewed Garrison) and CIA documents note that the article caused Garrison's office to "light up" with new enthusiasm, solidifying the CIA angle.
Ultimate origin in Paese Sera: Multiple sources (including CIA historian Max Holland, Rolling Stone investigations, and declassified files) describe the Paese Sera story as KGB-planted disinformation to smear the CIA and link it to the assassination. Garrison incorporated this (and related claims about Shaw's CMC role) into his case, his public statements, and his 1988 book—without acknowledging its dubious provenance. The book retells the investigation with heavy emphasis on CIA involvement, making it the direct source for Stone's film (which dramatizes Garrison's probe and includes the Italian newspaper clipping as evidence).
Defenders of Garrison (including some cited in Oliver Stone's responses) argue he was already suspicious of the CIA before the article and that Paese Sera merely confirmed existing leads. However, mainstream historical consensus (from Warren Commission critics to conspiracy researchers) views the shift as heavily influenced by the article, which provided the "smoking gun" link Garrison needed.
In summary: The film's foundation in Garrison's book is accurate, and the book's narrative on Shaw/CIA traces back crucially to that Paese Sera article—published amid Garrison's initial "thrill kill" framing, which he then adapted into the CIA conspiracy theory after reading it. This chain has been critiqued as unwitting amplification of Soviet disinformation that helped fuel long-term distrust in official accounts.
ME: Did Garrison's assistant from Life magazine, Richard Billings, write in his journal in March 1967 that Garrison had recently read an anti-Shaw / anti-CIA article in a French newspaper and was therefore starting to take a closer look at the CIA as the perpetrator of the JFK assassination?
GROK: Yes, according to accounts of Richard Billings' journal (or diary/notes from his time embedded with Garrison's investigation for Life magazine), there is a relevant entry around March 1967 indicating that Garrison had recently come across an anti-Shaw/anti-CIA article in a foreign (European) newspaper — specifically tied to a French or Italian source — and this prompted him to intensify scrutiny of the CIA as the likely perpetrator in the JFK assassination.
Key details from reliable sources referencing Billings' contemporaneous notes:
Billings, a senior Life editor who had close access to Garrison starting in early 1967 (including January meetings and ongoing consultations), recorded in his journal that Garrison received or referenced foreign press clippings linking Clay Shaw to the CIA via entities like the Centro Mondiale Commerciale (CMC).
A specific March 22, 1967, entry (shortly after Shaw's March 1 arrest) notes a story in L'Humanité (the French Communist Party newspaper, dated around March 8 ) alleging CIA use of Shaw for Italian activities, with Garrison possessing a related Rome-dated clipping from March 7 (likely echoing or tied to the Italian Paese Sera series that began March 4, 1967, but reprinted or paralleled in French outlets).
Billings explicitly wrote that this material fueled Garrison's shift: "Garrison now is hot on the CIA angle" (noted around early April 1967 in some citations, but building from March events). The foreign articles — often described as anti-Shaw and anti-CIA propaganda — convinced Garrison that Shaw's alleged CIA ties explained the conspiracy, overriding his earlier "thrill-killing" or homosexual-motivated theories and leading him to view the Agency as the orchestrator.
This aligns with broader historical analyses (e.g., Max Holland's CIA study "The Lie That Linked CIA to the Kennedy Assassination," which draws on Billings' diary): the European press pieces (starting with Paese Sera in Italy, then amplified in French papers like L'Humanité and others) provided Garrison "assurance" for his suspicions, making him "dig further" into CIA connections despite staff pushback.
Note that the query specifies a French newspaper, and while Paese Sera (Italian) was the origin, it quickly spread to French outlets (L'Humanité explicitly echoed the CIA-Shaw link in March 1967). Billings' notes capture Garrison reacting to this wave of foreign reporting in March, viewing it as corroboration that redirected his probe toward the CIA.
Critics of Garrison (including Holland) argue this foreign material — widely seen as KGB-sourced disinformation — was pivotal in Garrison's pivot, and Billings' journal is cited as direct evidence of the timing and impact in March 1967. Garrison himself later downplayed foreign articles' role (claiming post-trial awareness in his 1988 book), but Billings' on-the-scene record contradicts that for the pre-trial period. The journal entries remain a key primary-source insight into how Garrison's thinking evolved right after the Shaw arrest.
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Oliver Stone becoming a Putin-stooge hardly improves the look.
And staying in stooge-land even after the horrible Ukraine invasion and war.
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Stone's "JFK" got us the ARRB and with it many unknown and now documented JFK Assassination FACTS. Like mortician Tom Robinson detailing patching the Exit Hole in the back of JFK's head by suturing a piece of rubber over it. Or Dr Humes detailing his "1st seeing the JFK Body" at 18:45 which corroborated Boyajian's military paperwork. The rewards of Stone's work far outweighs the baggage.
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Robinson told the HSCA in 1977 that he patched a hole in the back of JFK's head. We didn't need the ARRB to learn this.
Note: He admitted he had to "guess" as to how much the "opening" had been caused by bullets and how much of it was caused by the doctors when they removed the brain.
(https://www.drivehq.com/file/DFPublishFile.aspx/FileID13216645788/Keyc17olfog2dfn/robinson.png)
https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md63/html/Image00.htm
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Stone's "JFK" got us the ARRB and with it many unknown and now documented JFK Assassination FACTS. Like mortician Tom Robinson detailing patching the Exit Hole in the back of JFK's head by suturing a piece of rubber over it. Or Dr Humes detailing his "1st seeing the JFK Body" at 18:45 which corroborated Boyajian's military paperwork. The rewards of Stone's work far outweighs the baggage.
Agent Clint Hill [Secret Service]: Mrs. Kennedy was holding on to the President, his head still in her lap. “Mrs. Kennedy,” I said, “Please let us help the President…”
She would not let go.
That’s the one thing that I can’t get out of my mind– the picture of him lying in her lap– with his head exposed to me– just looking into the back of his head—into his brain– his eyes fixed—blood and brains and bone fragments all over the car.
The right rear portion of the President’s head was missing– it was lying in the rear seat of the car.
(https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/render/00-zmGoqoLQYlTWpySiQIReHhoeL-2idmsXQn9hQOJib4jO7OnE8qiAdWV-WLzZqGDFKwg5ydwHipy3aIZBf9dNYQ?cn=THISLIFE&res=large&ts=1770336173383)
White arrow is the hole, blue is back piece of head falling into the back seat.
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Agent Clint Hill [Secret Service]: Mrs. Kennedy was holding on to the President, his head still in her lap. “Mrs. Kennedy,” I said, “Please let us help the President…”
She would not let go.
That’s the one thing that I can’t get out of my mind– the picture of him lying in her lap– with his head exposed to me– just looking into the back of his head—into his brain– his eyes fixed—blood and brains and bone fragments all over the car.
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It appears that Jarrett Smith is a prime example of the oodles and gobs of people who were zombified by Oliver Stone's KGB-influenced movie (which is the subject of this thread).