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Title: My Time Trial, Depository To Tippit Scene
Post by: Bill Brown on December 23, 2025, 09:48:18 PM
While in Dallas last month, I performed a time trial (with a conspiracy advocate at my side) from the front of the Depository building to Tenth & Patton.  Here are my results...

From the front steps of the Depository, I walked east on Elm to the spot where Oswald got on the McWatters bus. 6:55

Allow for 4 minutes on the bus (per McWatters' testimony). 4:00

From the point Oswald got off the bus, I walked over to the Greyhound station to where Whaley's cab was parked. 3:26

I drove from that spot to the intersection of Beckley & Neely. 4:53

(Side note: I got stopped at 3 traffic lights and paused the stop watch at all 3 until the light turned green)

I walked from Beckley & Neely (where Oswald exited Whaley's cab) back to the rooming house front door: 5:54

I allowed 1 minute to be back inside the room ("Just long enough, I guess, to grab a jacket and put it on" - Earlene Roberts). 1:00

I allowed 1 minute to stand at the bus stop. 1:00

From the bus stop outside the rooming house, I walked to the spot of Tippit's patrol car. 12:20

Total time.... 39:28

 

If I leave the front steps of the Depository at 12:33 pm, then I am at the patrol car on Tenth Street between 1:12 pm and 1:13 pm.

And Oswald probably would have walked from the rooming house to Tenth & Patton quicker than my 12:20 time.

Unsolved History, the Gary Mack/Dave Perry Oswald double did it in less than 11:20.

There is no problem with whether or not Oswald was able to get to the Tippit shooting in time.
Title: Re: My Time Trial, Depository To Tippit Scene
Post by: Jarrett Smith on December 23, 2025, 11:04:26 PM
While in Dallas last month, I performed a time trial (with a conspiracy advocate at my side) from the front of the Depository building to Tenth & Patton.  Here are my results...

From the front steps of the Depository, I walked east on Elm to the spot where Oswald got on the McWatters bus. 6:55

Allow for 4 minutes on the bus (per McWatters' testimony). 4:00

From the point Oswald got off the bus, I walked over to the Greyhound station to where Whaley's cab was parked. 3:26

I drove from that spot to the intersection of Beckley & Neely. 4:53

(Side note: I got stopped at 3 traffic lights and paused the stop watch at all 3 until the light turned green)

I walked from Beckley & Neely (where Oswald exited Whaley's cab) back to the rooming house front door: 5:54

I allowed 1 minute to be back inside the room ("Just long enough, I guess, to grab a jacket and put it on" - Earlene Roberts). 1:00

I allowed 1 minute to stand at the bus stop. 1:00

From the bus stop outside the rooming house, I walked to the spot of Tippit's patrol car. 12:20

Total time.... 39:28

 

If I leave the front steps of the Depository at 12:33 pm, then I am at the patrol car on Tenth Street between 1:12 pm and 1:13 pm.

And Oswald probably would have walked from the rooming house to Tenth & Patton quicker than my 12:20 time.

Unsolved History, the Gary Mack/Dave Perry Oswald double did it in less than 11:20.

There is no problem with whether or not Oswald was able to get to the Tippit shooting in time.


Thanks, Bill, for putting this to rest. Oswald killed Tippit at 1:15 and had plenty of time to get there. This part of the case is closed.
Title: Re: My Time Trial, Depository To Tippit Scene
Post by: Benjamin Cole on December 24, 2025, 05:02:47 AM
BB-

Always great to do primary and original research. Thanks.

Some issues:

1. DPD'er Gerald Hill calling from the murder scene that an "automatic" pistol was used to murder Tippit. I apologize in advance, but I could swear I saw an interview of Hill on Youtube, in color, in which Hill said he looked at the bottom of the shells and thought he saw the word "auto" imprinted. That said, LHO was clever enough to salt a murder scene with "auto" shells, while carrying a revolver. Still, this has always bothered me.

2. The witness statements on the time (too early to have murdered Tippit) of LHO's arrival at the Texas Theater.

3. OTOH, credible shoe-store manager Johnny Brewer said he saw LHO actively furtively, and then sneaking into the TT.

LHO's behavior post-JFKA has always suggested complicity in the JFKA, and my take is he was involved.

The Tippit shooting is murky though.

Caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.