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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on December 11, 2025, 12:46:30 PM
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Oliver Stone's Ruth Paine
Stone told actor Gail Cronauer, who played Janet Williams, aka Ruth Paine, in a conspiratorial manner.
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/oliver-stone-s-ruth-paine
(https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/oliver-stone-s-ruth-paine)
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Oliver Stone's Ruth Paine
Stone told actor Gail Cronauer, who played Janet Williams, aka Ruth Paine, in a conspiratorial manner.
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/oliver-stone-s-ruth-paine
(https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/oliver-stone-s-ruth-paine)
Yes, it is Stone’s movie, he gets to do as he pleases. Apparently Stone doesn’t care about reality and how Ruth Paine really was. Anyone who thinks they are watching what really happened when viewing Stone’s movie is both naive and ignorant of the facts.
I contacted Ken Burns a few years ago to ask if he would produce a documentary on the JFK assassination as an antidote for Stone’s movie. The response was that he was way too busy already with other subjects. And that others had also made the same request.
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Yes, it is Stone’s movie, he gets to do as he pleases. Apparently Stone doesn’t care about reality and how Ruth Paine really was. Anyone who thinks they are watching what really happened when viewing Stone’s movie is both naive and ignorant of the facts.
I contacted Ken Burns a few years ago to ask if he would produce a documentary on the JFK assassination as an antidote for Stone’s movie. The response was that he was way too busy already with other subjects. And that others had also made the same request.
When asked about Shaw and the abuses by Garrison, Stone replied, "Sometimes in a war you have to sacrifice innocent people." I think he didn't care whether Ruth Paine was innocent. Or Shaw; as he implicitly admitted with his response. Paine or Shaw were going to be a casualty in his larger war against the MIC/Deep State/War State monsters who he thinks ran (and run) the country and killed JFK. Collateral damage so to speak.
Remember though that he changed the names of the Paines to Bill and Jane Williams. He didn't use their real names. It's clear he was worried about being sued, about a lawsuit. He had a right to make a movie but not a right to libel/slander people. Otherwise, why change their names?
I think most of the conspiracy crowd, the hard core online activists, believe in the Stone comment above, i.e., sacrificing people in a war. They think they are saving the country or exposing a great crime and if innocent people sometimes get hurt along the way that's how things go. The ends-justifies-any means approach.