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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Tom Graves on November 23, 2025, 12:22:15 PM
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Danny O'meara has quoted Secret Service Agent George Hickey in an attempt to prove that Oswald didn't fire an early, missing-everything, shot.
I've inserted in bold text the part that Hickey was evidently too embarrassed to put into words:
I heard what seemed to me that a firecracker exploded to the right and rear. About five seconds after leaning over and barfing on the pavement, which I can be seen doing in Z-150, I stood partially up and turned to the rear to see if I could observe anything, as I can be seen doing in Altgens-6.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z150.jpg
PS He stood "partially up"?
How does one stand partially up?
By rising from your seat and leaning over -- like he started doing in Z-150?
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Danny O'meara has quoted Secret Service Agent George Hickey in an attempt to prove that Oswald didn't fire an early, missing-everything, shot.
I've inserted into the quote the part that Hickey was evidently too embarrassed to include:
"I heard what seemed to me that a firecracker exploded to the right and rear. About five seconds after leaning over and barfing on the pavement (which I can be seen doing in Z-150), I stood partially up and turned to the rear to see if I could observe anything (as I can be seen doing in Altgens-6)."
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z150.jpg
PS He stood "partially up"?
Is that what he's doing in Altgens-6?
Please cite the source of the alleged quote from George Hickey. Or is this supposed to be a joke?
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Please cite the source of the alleged quote from George Hickey. Or is this supposed to be a joke?
Boy oh boy are you gullible, Charles.
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Boy oh boy are you gullible, Charles.
Not really, just calling your bluff, and trying to keep the truly gullible ones from thinking this might be real.
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Not really, just calling your bluff, and trying to keep the truly gullible ones from thinking this might be real.
I agree. This is the way that JFK Assassination Urban Legends are generated. Someone then mistakenly repeats this baloney as being a Fact. This is exactly the kinda stuff that Oliver Stone gets ragged for doing.
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I agree. This is the way that JFK Assassination Urban Legends are generated. Someone then mistakenly repeats this baloney as being a Fact. This is exactly the kinda stuff that Oliver Stone gets ragged for doing.
The point remains that Secret Service Agent George Hickey consciously reacted to hearing Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot at ”Z- 124" by starting to lean over in Z-150 as though he was going to upchuck.
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The point remains that Secret Service Agent George Hickey consciously reacted to hearing Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot at ”Z- 124" by starting to lean over in Z-150 as though he was going to upchuck.
How difficult would it have been for an Old Guard JFK Assassination Researcher to ask SA Hickey about his "lean over"? The Old Guard was more concerned with writing $$ making books and monthly publications. This is why we see the elapsed time for the 3 shots now being extended to 11+ seconds. Also explains why I have discovered the "Getaway" car. This case has simply Not been thoroughly investigated.
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How difficult would it have been for an Old Guard JFK Assassination Researcher to ask SA Hickey about his "lean over"?
Dear Comrade Storing,
I was thinking the same thing.
But the problem is, Hickey may not have remembered doing it even if prompted and shown the frames in which he's leaning over and/or tilting his head down and looking at the pavement in Z-150, Z-151, Z-152, Z-153, Z-154, Z-155, Z-156, Z-157, Z-158, Z-159, Z-160, Z-161, Z-162, Z-163, Z-164, Z-165, Z-166, Z-167, Z-168 and Z-169.
In other words, at the very same time that two other Secret Service agents in the follow-up car are consciously reacting to Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot at "Z-124," and at the same time that five passengers (including JFK) in the limo are consciously reacting to it, and Rosemary Willis (who started looking back towards the TSBD at least by Z-145) is . . . yep . . . looking back towards the TSBD.
The Old Guard was more concerned with writing $$ making books and monthly publications. This is why we see the elapsed time for the 3 shots now being extended to 11+ seconds.
Have Brian Roselle and Kenneth Scearce made money from their (correct) analysis of the conscious reactions of those seven prime witnesses to the sounds of a missing-everything shot at "Z-124" (which means the shooting lasted for 10.2 seconds)?
https://d7922adf-f499-4a26-96d4-8ab2d521fa35.usrfiles.com/ugd/d7922a_e280e26982b44f2c97c6e6e27026e385.pdf
Also explains why I have discovered the "Getaway" car.
Yes, one can only wonder which worker in that area, having to go to a dental appointment or some-such thing and not being aware of the motorcade, ended up having to temporarily abandon their car there.
-- Tom
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For SA Hickey to possibly "not remember", he would 1st have to be asked what he was doing leaning over the side of the Queen Mary. The asking of this question never happened. How about Lovelady and Shelley, working right there inside the TSBD being asked questions by the Old Guard JFK Assassination Researchers? Again, never happened. The JFK Assassination research community simply fell flat on their face.
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For SA Hickey to possibly "not remember", he would 1st have to be asked what he was doing leaning over the side of the Queen Mary. The asking of this question never happened. How about Lovelady and Shelley, working right there inside the TSBD being asked questions by the Old Guard JFK Assassination Researchers? Again, never happened. The JFK Assassination research community simply fell flat on their face.
Dear Comrade Storing,
But they were right that it was an evil, evil, evil "Deep State Conspiracy"!!!
-- Tom
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Dear Comrade Storing,
But they were right that it was an evil, evil, evil "Deep State Conspiracy"!!!
-- Tom
Put away your broad brush. Not all Old Guard JFK Assassination Researchers believe there was a "Deep State Conspiracy". Stop with your generalizations.