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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Michael T. Griffith on October 14, 2025, 07:13:29 PM
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For those who might be interested, I've created a new website titled "Refuting the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories." Here's the link to it:
https://sites.google.com/view/september11refuted/home
The website includes links to videos and articles that answer the 9/11 Truther claims. Sadly, there is a vocal minority among JFK assassination conspiracy theorists who embrace the nutty 9/11 Truther claims. James Fetzer and James Douglass are two prime and embarrassing examples, which is why I will not cite anything authored by them after 9/11.
I have a personal interest in the Truther claim that a missile, not an airliner, hit the Pentagon because a friend of mine was a security guard at the Pentagon on 9/11. He saw wreckage from Flight 77 and also saw some human body parts. When I told him about the 9/11 conspiracy theory that a missile hit the Pentagon and not an airliner, he thought I was joking. When I assured him that I was not joking, he said, "Well, have them come talk to me."
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For those who might be interested, I've created a new website titled "Refuting the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories." Here's the link to it:
https://sites.google.com/view/september11refuted/home
The website includes links to videos and articles that answer the 9/11 Truther claims.
I have a personal interest in the Truther claim that a missile, not an airliner, hit the Pentagon because a friend of mine was a security guard at the Pentagon on 9/11. He saw wreckage from Flight 77 and also saw some human body parts. When I told him about the 9/11 conspiracy theory that a missile hit the Pentagon and not an airliner, he thought I was joking. When I assured him that I was not joking, he said, "Well, have them come talk to me."
It's too bad you didn't have a friend who saw Lee Harvey Oswald kill JFK.
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Michael Griffith is a conundrum. He proffers reasonable, rational takes on controversial subjects such as Fletcher Prouty's falsehoods and, in this case, the idiocy of 9/11 "controlled demolition" and conspiracy theories, while at the same time trumpeting outlandish nonsense about massive fakery in the JFK assassination photo record. I don't get it !!
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Michael Griffith is a conundrum. He proffers reasonable, rational takes on controversial subjects such as Fletcher Prouty's falsehoods and, in this case, the idiocy of 9/11 "controlled demolition" and conspiracy theories, while at the same time trumpeting outlandish nonsense about massive fakery in the JFK assassination photo record. I don't get it !!
It's almost as though he's an agent of the KGB*.
*Today's SVR and FSB.
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For those who might be interested, I've created a new website titled "Refuting the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories." Here's the link to it:
https://sites.google.com/view/september11refuted/home
The website includes links to videos and articles that answer the 9/11 Truther claims. Sadly, there is a vocal minority among JFK assassination conspiracy theorists who embrace the nutty 9/11 Truther claims. James Fetzer and James Douglass are two prime and embarrassing examples, which is why I will not cite anything authored by them after 9/11.
I have a personal interest in the Truther claim that a missile, not an airliner, hit the Pentagon because a friend of mine was a security guard at the Pentagon on 9/11. He saw wreckage from Flight 77 and also saw some human body parts. When I told him about the 9/11 conspiracy theory that a missile hit the Pentagon and not an airliner, he thought I was joking. When I assured him that I was not joking, he said, "Well, have them come talk to me."
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Excellent work MTG.
The anti-Semitic crackpot, "moderator" William Niederhut, has used the Education Forum to promote his insane views that 9/11 was perped by Mossad, which planted thousand of charges in the WTC, to bring about the pancake-collapse effect.
The temperatures inside the WTC (by this lunatic theory) reached 2,800 degrees (f), causing structural steel to melt---and then Mossad set off the thousands of timed charges, by radio frequencies. Somehow the charges did not explode and the radio transmitters survived the 2,800-degree heat.
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Excellent work MTG.
The anti-Semitic crackpot, "moderator" William Niederhut, has used the Education Forum to promote his insane views that 9/11 was perped by Mossad, which planted thousand of charges in the WTC, to bring about the pancake-collapse effect.
The temperatures inside the WTC (by this lunatic theory) reached 2,800 degrees (f), causing structural steel to melt---and then Mossad set off the thousands of timed charges, by radio frequencies. Somehow the charges did not explode and the radio transmitters survived the 2,800-degree heat.
The lunatic theory claims the temperatures got up to 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit?
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The lunatic theory claims the temperatures got up to 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit?
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Oh, there are even kookier elements of this insane 9/11 theory, but yes, structural steel melts at 2,800 f.
William "Crackpot" Niederhut states, as a fact, that molten, liquid steel was flowing out of the WTC towers before they collapsed. The subsequent pancaking happened as Mossad had installed explosive charges, literally thousands of them, in the three WTC towers.
Hundreds of other people were involved in the 9/11 plot, from President Bush, to US intel, Mossad, Cheney, the Jewish owners of the WTC (who wanted to collect insurance on the destruction), Air Force pilots, you name it. They have all kept silent since. Surely, succeeding Presidents, such as Obama, must have learned about such a plot, but they kept silent too.
You can't make this stuff up. The fake moon landing looks positively believable in comparison.
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Michael Griffith is a conundrum. He proffers reasonable, rational takes on controversial subjects such as Fletcher Prouty's falsehoods and, in this case, the idiocy of 9/11 "controlled demolition" and conspiracy theories, while at the same time trumpeting outlandish nonsense about massive fakery in the JFK assassination photo record. I don't get it!!
You don't get it because you are blinded by your slavish adherence to the lone-gunman theory of the JFK shooting, a theory supported by a minority of the Western world that is not very much larger than the minority that supports the 9/11 Truther nonsense.
And unlike the 9/11 case, the evidence of photographic fakery in the JFK case is supported by a number of photographic experts and eyewitness testimony, and in the case of the JFK autopsy skull x-rays, the alteration of those x-rays has been confirmed by the hard science of optical-density measurements performed by two highly qualified scientists (one a neurologist and the other a physicist and radiation oncologist). In the case of the JFK autopsy brain photos, which show only 1-2 ounces of missing brain tissue, the fact that those photos cannot possibly be of JFK's brain is confirmed by the JFK skull x-rays, ironically enough, since numerous experts have acknowledged that the x-rays show a substantial amount of missing brain tissue, and this has been confirmed by optical-density measurements, not to mention the fact that we know that pieces of JFK's brain were blown onto 16 surfaces when his head exploded (some bits of brain were even blown onto the follow-up car and the two patrol bikes to the left rear of the limo).
It's almost as though he's an agent of the KGB*.
*Today's SVR and FSB.
And it's almost as though you're an unserious, fringe troll who is obsessed with the KGB and who accuses anyone who disagrees with you of being a Russian agent.
Folks, just for some context here, Tom Graves also believes--ardently believes--that Russia won the Cold War. I kid you not. That should give you some idea of his credibility.
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You don't get it because you are blinded by your slavish adherence to the lone-gunman theory of the JFK shooting, a theory supported by a minority of the Western world that is not very much larger than the minority that supports the 9/11 Truther nonsense.
And unlike the 9/11 case, the evidence of photographic fakery in the JFK case is supported by a number of photographic experts and eyewitness testimony, and in the case of the JFK autopsy skull x-rays, the alteration of those x-rays has been confirmed by the hard science of optical-density measurements performed by two highly qualified scientists (one a neurologist and the other a physicist and radiation oncologist). In the case of the JFK autopsy brain photos, which show only 1-2 ounces of missing brain tissue, the fact that those photos cannot possibly be of JFK's brain is confirmed by the JFK skull x-rays, ironically enough, since numerous experts have acknowledged that the x-rays show a substantial amount of missing brain tissue, and this has been confirmed by optical-density measurements, not to mention the fact that we know that pieces of JFK's brain were blown onto 16 surfaces when his head exploded (some bits of brain were even blown onto the follow-up car and the two patrol bikes to the left rear of the limo).
And it's almost as though you're an unserious, fringe troll who is obsessed with the KGB and who accuses anyone who disagrees with you of being a Russian agent.
Folks, just for some context here, Tom Graves also believes--ardently believes--that Russia won the Cold War. I kid you not. That should give you some idea of his credibility.
Dear Mike,
Thanks to "useful idiot" conspiracy theorists like you and fifty-seven years of KGB* disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies, your beloved KGB*-Mafia won the Cold War on November 8, 2016.
*Today's SVR and FSB
-- Tom
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Michael Griffith is a conundrum. He proffers reasonable, rational takes on controversial subjects such as Fletcher Prouty's falsehoods and, in this case, the idiocy of 9/11 "controlled demolition" and conspiracy theories, while at the same time trumpeting outlandish nonsense about massive fakery in the JFK assassination photo record. I don't get it !!
I don't believe Griffith for even a second, Griffith for sure believes in a Government conspiracy behind 9/11, he's just trying to hide this belief so he doesn't come across as a total Kook so he can sell at least one more copy of his full of lies JFK conspiracy book.
After all if "they" possessed the ability to fake nearly every aspect of the JFK evidence and in the case of the Zapruder Film using techniques still impossible today, then almost 40 years later "they" could easily fake 9/11 with manufactured evidence and planted explosives.
C'mon Griffith just admit it, you'll feel much better!
JohnM
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I don't believe Griffith for even a second, Griffith for sure believes in a Government conspiracy behind 9/11, he's just trying to hide this belief so he doesn't come across as a total Kook so he can sell at least one more copy of his full of lies JFK conspiracy book.
After all if "they" possessed the ability to fake nearly every aspect of the JFK evidence and in the case of the Zapruder Film using techniques still impossible today, then almost 40 years later "they" could easily fake 9/11 with manufactured evidence and planted explosives.
C'mon Griffith just admit it, you'll feel much better!
JohnM
Wasn't 9/11 only about 24 years ago?
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Wasn't 9/11 only about 24 years ago?
Well let's see, 2025-2001=24
JohnM
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Well let's see, 2025-2001=24
JohnM
So, what was it, again, that happened about forty years ago?
Oh, I see!
Forty years after the JFK Assassination!
Carry on, MHM.
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So, what was it, again, that happened about forty years ago?
Oh, I see!
Forty years after the JFK Assassination!
Carry on, MHM.
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2001-1963=almost 40 years
JohnM
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Thumb1:
2001-1963=almost 40 years
JohnM
Wowie zowie!
Good work, MHM!
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MTG-
You need to next debunk the USS Liberty crackpots.