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Title: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Lance Payette on September 26, 2025, 01:07:28 AM
Yes, Hot Lips Luna has informed the world that NBC has video proving Oswald is more innocent than you or me. No, he's not Prayer Man - get over that, will ya? He was right near JFK's limo (Umbrella Man?). Greg Doudna and Larry Schnapf are excited, so you should be, too.

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Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Lance Payette on September 26, 2025, 01:13:23 AM
Oh, fudge, she says NBC "allegedly" has such a video. That's no fun. Those damn people at the Ed Forum got me all excited. Never mind.

I hope her "aliens among us" bombshells are better than this.
Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Benjamin Cole on September 26, 2025, 01:21:31 AM
Oh, dear.

Rep. Luna seems like a nice woman, but this is flatter than day-old warm beer.

Luna, who also says Trump should be added to Mt. Rushmore, and that inter-dimensional beings exist who fly UFOs, then cites "Director Stone," the Putin puppet.

Yes, LHO was right there on Elm Street during the JFKA, and no one noticed.

My best guess is LHO was the TSBD6 sniper. He had accomplices, but I don't know who. Like the HSCA suspected, a very small conspiracy.

KGB, G-2, CIA, Mafia links? I don't know.




Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Royell Storing on September 26, 2025, 01:29:13 AM
Oh, dear.

Rep. Luna seems like a nice woman, but this is flatter than day-old warm beer.

Luna, who also says Trump should be added to Mt. Rushmore, and that inter-dimensional beings exist who fly UFOs, then cites "Director Stone," the Putin puppet.

Yes, LHO was right there on Elm Street during the JFKA, and no one noticed.

My best guess is LHO was the TSBD6 sniper. He had accomplices, but I don't know who. Like the HSCA suspected, a very small conspiracy.

KGB, G-2, CIA, Mafia links? I don't know.

    Somebody being an "accomplice" of Oswald? More like Oswald carried the water for somebody else. Oswald was "low level". Very low level.
Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Tom Graves on September 26, 2025, 01:31:05 AM
Somebody being an "accomplice" of Oswald? More like Oswald carried the water for somebody else. Oswald was "low level". Very low level.

YES! YES! YES!

HE WAS JUST A PATSY, LIKE HE SAID!!!

(LOL)
Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Benjamin Cole on September 26, 2025, 01:47:17 AM
LHO may have been manipulated, or an unwitting participant in the JFKA. Or maybe he was in on it. LHO sure acted like a guilty man post-JFKA.

John Newman and others contend Bruce Solie, a KGB mole, was running LHO.

But Larry Hancock and David Boylan say LHO was just an earnest Marxist, and not an asset of the CIA or the KGB.

The evidence linking LHO to the usual suspects---Marcello, or James Angleton/Bill Harvey, LBJ, anti-Castro Cubans et al---has never emerged. Not one credible ever confessed to such arrangements. It is vapors.

I am dubious of what I call the "expanding accordion" version of JFKA CTs.

How many witting participants did the JFKA have? And how many post-JFKA witnesses engaged on overt, direct, knowing lies, such as the three autopsists at Bethesda? And then never, ever confessed to their sins?

Think small, very small. That's the HSCA thought too.



Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Zeon Mason on September 26, 2025, 02:00:02 AM
Now we know the reason why Babushka lady’s camera was confiscated 🙄

And the NBC conspirators kept that photo of Oswald  standing on Elm st  near the JFK limo locked in a vault for 60 years because… ?

And Oswald although having this incredible alibi, ( like when he was Prayerman) chose not to say anything at all about this to the press , or to his brother, or mother, or his wife, or to  anyone at all. ( He  managed to shout that he was a patsy though and told his brother that “there’s nothing there” and told Marina to make sure she got the children some shoes)

Oswald completely missed his opportunity to mention  his alibi at the midnight conference when the whole world was watching him.
( Maybe Oswald saw Ruby in the audience and feared Ruby would  shoot him if Oswald said that he had been standing by the JFK limo when the shots were fired).

Oswald somehow though, made it back to the TSBD and went up to the 2nd floor lunchroom by 90 seconds ( unless that was the other Oswald imposter) or Baker and Truly were even more incredible liars than CTs have attributed them to be over the last 60 years).

And although for 60 years thousands of dedicated CT researchers missed conclusively identifying Oswald standing near the JFK limo, it’s probably because NBC and or other conspirators also removed portions of all those other films that caught Oswald just as they altered the Z film frames and did all that other fakery stuff.

So it’s ABOUT time that some 21st century born young congress lady squeeze out just one more drop of CT intrigue out  of this JFKassassination lest the public should lapse into ( Gid forbid) some conclusion that maybe the lone Left Marxist Kook Oswald actually acted on his own psychotic urge ( just like all the other leftwing kooks of late did)   and shot and killed JFK.
Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Tom Graves on September 26, 2025, 02:01:37 AM
LHO may have been manipulated, or an unwitting participant in the JFKA. Or maybe he was in on it. LHO sure acted like a guilty man post-JFKA.

John Newman and others contend Bruce Solie, a KGB mole, was running LHO.

But Larry Hancock and David Boylan say LHO was just an earnest Marxist, and not an asset of the CIA or the KGB.

The evidence linking LHO to the usual suspects---Marcello, or James Angleton/Bill Harvey, LBJ, anti-Castro Cubanset al---has never emerged. No one credible ever confessed to such arrangements. It is vapors.

I am dubious of what I call the "expanding accordion" version of JFKA CTs.

How many witting participants did the JFKA have? And how many post-JFKA witnesses engaged on overt, direct, knowing lies, such as the three autopsists at Bethesda? And then never, ever confessed to their sins?

Think small, very small. That's the HSCA thought too.

Do Hancock and Boylan realize that Solie was not only James Angleton's Kim-Philby-like confidant and mentor, but his mole-hunting superior, to boot?

Do Hancock and Boylan know that it was arranged ahead of time with the Records Integration Division and the Office of Mail Logistics for all of the incoming non-CIA cables on Oswald's defection (e.g., from State, the Navy Department, and the Naval Attache at the U.S. Embassy) to be sent to Solie's office in the Office of Security rather than to where they would normally go -- the Soviet Russia Division -- where they disappeared into a "black hole" for at least six months (and some of them didn't resurface until after the assassination?
Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Lance Payette on September 26, 2025, 02:08:00 AM
LHO may have been manipulated, or an unwitting participant in the JFKA. Or maybe he was in on it. LHO sure acted like a guilty man post-JFKA.

John Newman and others contend Bruce Solie, a KGB mole, was running LHO.

But Larry Hancock and David Boylan say LHO was just an earnest Marxist, and not an asset of the CIA or the KGB.

The evidence linking LHO to the usual suspects---Marcello, or James Angleton/Bill Harvey, LBJ, anti-Castro Cubanset al---has never emerged. No one credible ever confessed to such arrangements. It is vapors.

I am dubious of what I call the "expanding accordion" version of JFKA CTs.

How many witting participants did the JFKA have? And how many post-JFKA witnesses engaged on overt, direct, knowing lies, such as the three autopsists at Bethesda? And then never, ever confessed to their sins?

Think small, very small. That's the HSCA thought too.
Yes, my willingness to entertain conspiracy theories is definitely limited to "small, very small." Hence my mild enthusiasm for John Orr's four-shot Mafia pro theory, although the way he gets Oswald into that scenario seems far-fetched.

I mentioned before that one CTer who encouraged my efforts at the Ed Forum said he thought Newman was on the right track "if he can ever bring it all to Dealey Plaza, which I doubt he can." CTers seem to focus on all sorts of externals and then think this somehow explains Dealey Plaza. No, you need to start with a convincing, evidence-based alternative theory of Dealey Plaza. You can't just tell us everything was fake, the LN narrative is impossible, etc. - you need a genuinely persuasive alternative theory with something resembling evidence to support it.

I started a thread not long ago about how dismayed the serious UAP/UFO community is at Luna's clown shows. Unless she comes up with SOMETHING genuinely newsworthy pretty quickly, she is going to end up being more of an embarrassment than a help to those who are her cheerleaders now. The idea that generations at NBC have been sitting on a bombshell video for 62 years - at least five generations of employees - is highly implausible.
Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Lance Payette on September 26, 2025, 02:41:59 AM
Denis Morrisette pointed out that the video is five months old, whereupon the air went out of the Excitement Balloon at the Ed Forum. :D I really need to stop even visiting over there. It has truly reached the point of no return.

Yep, it is five months old. Well, she'll have it any day now. ::)
Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Royell Storing on September 26, 2025, 03:35:23 AM

  Why do you guys keep trotting out the Ed Forum? Trumpeting a 5 month old video? It's a mausoleum. 
Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Benjamin Cole on September 26, 2025, 03:58:24 AM
LP--

There may be a case for a very small JFKA-CT, and that the WC was more concerned with the prosecution of LHO, than determining if LHO had confederates. You know the usual arguments why that happened.

The HSCA concluded there likely had been a conspiracy, but a small one, and even after two years, they only suspected the Mafia, but had no proof. Or even solid evidence. Some staffers of the HSCA may have suspected elements within the CIA---but again, they had nothing solid.

Sad to see the Ed Forum sink into the bile. An outed anti-Semitic crackpot is the moderator now, and believes his far-left views are not only more accurate than all other views, but ethically and morally superior as well. I gather founder John Simkin is a bit into his senescence, Joe Biden-style, and he is endlessly delivering his out-dated leftist views from the 1960s.

Presently, the Ed Forum is far, far more interested in the Epstein story, and connecting it to Trump and the JFKA, than in JFKA research. Also, in justifying the Kirk assassination.

Sad to see.

Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Tom Graves on September 26, 2025, 04:13:25 AM
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Presently, the Ed Forum is far, far more interested in the Epstein story, and connecting it to Trump and the JFKA, than in JFKA research. Also, in justifying the Kirk assassination.

Seein' as how Oswald was probably sent to Moscow by a KGB "mole," and Ghislaine's daddy was probably a KGB agent, there may be a connection after all.
Title: Re: It's all over, people - this is BIG
Post by: Benjamin Cole on September 26, 2025, 09:49:28 AM
And Kirk was shot by Mossad. Likely what they are saying at Ed Forum.