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Title: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
Post by: Dan O'meara on September 17, 2025, 06:14:56 PM

Near the beginning of this footage, the camera pans across to briefly capture the front steps of the TSBD building.
Around 2017 Tom Graves and Sandy Larsen identified Gloria Calvery and a colleague (most likely Karan Hicks), at the steps.
Gloria is wearing a black headscarf, has her back to the camera and appears to be interacting with a bald man, stood higher upon the steps and facing her.
This man is Billy Lovelady.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTGxHVvG/Calvery-at-steps-close1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

The image above is taken 25 - 30 seconds after the headshot.
In his affidavit, taken a couple of hours after the shooting, Lovelady states he was on the front steps at the time of the shooting and that "after it was over we went back into the building."
No mention of him moving from the steps.
In his WC testimony he states he was on the steps when Gloria came running up and told him that the President had been shot. This is the moment we are witnessing in the image above.

A close examination of the GIF below (created by Chris Davidson, watch full screen and quarter speed), we see Karan Hicks (the woman in white) arriving at the steps and starting to climb them. She appears to have her arm linked with Gloria. As she climbs the steps, she seems to be briefly halted by the stationary figure of Gloria as she tells Lovelady, and others on the steps, about the shooting. Bill Shelley, returning from the concrete spur dividing the Elm Streets, has his back to the camera as he takes a couple of large strides towards the steps before turning to his left and we see him in profile -
“I ran across the street to the corner of the park and ran into a girl crying and she said the President had been shot. The girl’s name is Gloria Calvery who is an employee of this same building. I went back to the building...”
                                                                              [Shelley - affidavit 22nd Nov]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vobiYYwTLsuR63NZ0vX9ytxXNjlW4g8D/view?pli=1

The important aspect of Darnell is that it shows Lovelady on the steps, interacting with Gloria, as Baker arrives at the front steps.
This reveals that both Lovelady and Shelley lied about their movements in the immediate aftermath of the shooting.
They were truthful in the very first statements they gave, but were quickly making up ever-changing stories until the version they settled on for the Warren Commission Sham.
After the shooting, Shelley ran across to the concrete spur dividing the Elm Streets where he met Gloria coming the other way. Gloria was crying and told him the President had been shot. As they were making their way to the TSBD building Gloria approached Officer Joe Marshall Smith and told him that someone was shooting at the President from the bushes - "she was in hysterics" Smith recalls.
At the steps Gloria told Lovelady and the others about the shooting. Immediately after this Shelley and Lovelady entered the building through the front door and made their way to the back of the first floor where they were seen by Vicki Adams as she raced outside. They were the two white men that Baker saw in this area as he and Truly were making their way to the elevators.

Title: Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
Post by: Zeon Mason on September 17, 2025, 10:54:03 PM
If this is the case, then Lovelady was told about 70 secs post shots by Truly to guard the elevators yes?

If Lovelady is guarding the rear elevators, then the west rear elevator that supposedly had  Jack Dougherty operating it from 5th floor, never made it to the 1st floor, because surely Lovelady would have seen Dougherty ( and also Eddie Piper)?

Curiously when Victoria Adams went back inside the TSBD after a few more minutes post shots had elapsed ( unsure how many?) she went up to the 2nd floor and saw Luke Mooney trying to unsuccessfully operate the west elevator stuck on the 2nd floor.

So this suggests that the shooter was on the west elevator and  had brought it down to the 2nd floor, where he exited from it leaving it stuck on the 2nd floor.

The WC tried to establish that Jack Dougherty was using the west elevator, and brought it all the way down to 1st floor but this now is not very probable if Lovelady is at the rear elevators  being told by Truly to guard them at 70 secs post shots. And Eddie Piper never verified seeing Dougherty either.

Why did not Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom (confronted by Baker  90 sec post shots) see the shooter exiting the west elevator some 10-15 seconds later?

Answer: Because Oswald went into the 2nd floor office thru the vestibule door and was about to meet Mrs Reid, when the shooter exited the west elevator on 2nd floor.

Why did not Truly or Baker see the west elevator coming down, as they ascended the staircases?

Answer: Because the staircase is an L shaped type encased in walls, which blocks LOS about 50% of the ascent trek. So the coin flipped in the shooters favor and he was unseen.

Why did not Dorothy Garner see the west elevator going down?

It’s again another 50% coin flip in favor of the shooter  because it must have been at about the point Garner was looking at Baker and Truly ascending the staircase to 4th floor, when the west elevator went past the 4th floor.

Oswald therefore, could not have been the  6th floor shooter because the west elevator was seen motionless on the 5th floor by Truly looking up the shaft at 70 secs post shots. Thus Oswald starting at 75 secs operating west elevator would not make it to the 2nd floor lunchroom in time to be seen by Baker IN the lunchroom at 85-90 secs post shots.

And likewise, Oswald certainly would not make it down in time using the staircases , let alone having to pass by Mrs Garner in the 4th floor standing by the west window, for Oswald to be seen by Baker already IN the 2nd floor lunchroom at 85-90 secs  post shots.

So the shooter is either Jack Dougherty ( with no alibi, not seen by Piper nor Lovelady /Shelly on 1st floor, )or there was some other TSBD employee with no alibi, or there was some professional “contractor” whom was the shooter.

And the shooter stopped the west elevator at the 2nd floor where it stayed until Luke Mooney and Adams met there several minutes posts shots.

The shooter could have exited out of the 2nd floor west side window by the rear staircase , onto the rooftop of the annex bldg portion attached to TSBD then dropped to ground kind of like that  most recent psycho assassin did.
Title: Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
Post by: Royell Storing on September 18, 2025, 02:22:21 AM

Near the beginning of this footage, the camera pans across to briefly capture the front steps of the TSBD building.
Around 2017 Tom Graves and Sandy Larsen identified Gloria Calvery and a colleague (most likely Karan Hicks), at the steps.
Gloria is wearing a black headscarf, has her back to the camera and appears to be interacting with a bald man, stood higher upon the steps and facing her.
This man is Billy Lovelady.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTGxHVvG/Calvery-at-steps-close1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

The image above is taken 25 - 30 seconds after the headshot.
In his affidavit, taken a couple of hours after the shooting, Lovelady states he was on the front steps at the time of the shooting and that "after it was over we went back into the building."
No mention of him moving from the steps.
In his WC testimony he states he was on the steps when Gloria came running up and told him that the President had been shot. This is the moment we are witnessing in the image above.

A close examination of the GIF below (created by Chris Davidson, watch full screen and quarter speed), we see Karan Hicks (the woman in white) arriving at the steps and starting to climb them. She appears to have her arm linked with Gloria. As she climbs the steps, she seems to be briefly halted by the stationary figure of Gloria as she tells Lovelady, and others on the steps, about the shooting. Bill Shelley, returning from the concrete spur dividing the Elm Streets, has his back to the camera as he takes a couple of large strides towards the steps before turning to his left and we see him in profile -
“I ran across the street to the corner of the park and ran into a girl crying and she said the President had been shot. The girl’s name is Gloria Calvery who is an employee of this same building. I went back to the building...”
                                                                              [Shelley - affidavit 22nd Nov]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vobiYYwTLsuR63NZ0vX9ytxXNjlW4g8D/view?pli=1

The important aspect of Darnell is that it shows Lovelady on the steps, interacting with Gloria, as Baker arrives at the front steps.
This reveals that both Lovelady and Shelley lied about their movements in the immediate aftermath of the shooting.
They were truthful in the very first statements they gave, but were quickly making up ever-changing stories until the version they settled on for the Warren Commission Sham.
After the shooting, Shelley ran across to the concrete spur dividing the Elm Streets where he met Gloria coming the other way. Gloria was crying and told him the President had been shot. As they were making their way to the TSBD building Gloria approached Officer Joe Marshall Smith and told him that someone was shooting at the President from the bushes - "she was in hysterics" Smith recalls.
At the steps Gloria told Lovelady and the others about the shooting. Immediately after this Shelley and Lovelady entered the building through the front door and made their way to the back of the first floor where they were seen by Vicki Adams as she raced outside. They were the two white men that Baker saw in this area as he and Truly were making their way to the elevators.

   So now we have Calvery being ID'd as the woman that told Officer Smith that they were shooting at JFK, "from the bushes"? Do you realize how ridiculous this Calvery Pandemic has become?