JFK Assassination Forum

JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on September 05, 2025, 12:16:48 PM

Title: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Fred Litwin on September 05, 2025, 12:16:48 PM
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/yet-another-morley-nothingburger (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/yet-another-morley-nothingburger)

Yet Another Morley Nothingburger 

Congresswoman Luna convinced CA Director Ratcliffe to release its file on Herminio Diaz -- whom Rob Reiner claimed was a grassy knoll assassin. Surprise, surprise, there is nothing in the file to sustain the allegation. Morley has come up empty once again.
Title: Re: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Steve M. Galbraith on September 05, 2025, 04:21:52 PM
There's a type of conspiracy equivalent of "Say's Law" - i.e., supply creates demand - where conspiracy promoters like Morley churn this material out day-after-day and it produces customers that want more. Even now some 60-plus years later there's a demand for it. None of this that he sells has anything to do with Dallas that day, the actual event, the shooting. It's simply a endless series of disconnected dots, names, figures that go nowhere; certainly not to Dealey Plaza at 12:30 p.m. He can't get to Dallas with any of this.

Thomas Mallon made this observation in his book "Mrs. Paine's Garage": "Most posters [on the assassination] do not want the case 'solved.' Their goal is to sustain the imagined mystery's eternal life.....The newsgroups are less in the business of spreading the word than repeating writ. They light, not a prairie fire, but a sort of burning circus hoop through which the same gaudy villains and dupes are coaxed to jump, again and again."

Morley has figured out that if you supply new villains you can keep the demand for the burning hoop alive.

Title: Re: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Tommy Shanks on September 05, 2025, 04:27:15 PM
Morley has figured out that if you supply new villains you can keep the demand for the burning hoop alive.

Indeed, and it's a shame, because he used to produce really well-researched and compelling work (ie., his Win Scott book "Our Man in Mexico"). Lumping yourself in with the clown show that is Doug Horne, Jim DiEugenio and Rep. Luna is doing him no favors.
Title: Re: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Royell Storing on September 05, 2025, 05:42:16 PM

  Doug Horne has done excellent work dating back to his ARRB days. He did bring us the previously unknown Dino Brugioni and the Covert Briefing Board sessions. And his current work which unearthed those Bethesda Morgue Photos are bringing light to a previously unknown area that was actually ground zero on the night of 11/22/63. Trashing Horne means he is once again, "on the scent".     
Title: Re: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Benjamin Cole on September 06, 2025, 09:58:51 AM
Morley has done some good research, but he has been desperate to come up with something lately. He has overplayed the importance of recent document releases (or maybe he is just too deep into the JFKA, so a wrinkle looks like a mountain).

I can forgive all that. Morley's dog-whistling "Mossad was a driver of the JFKA" has sunk him into the mire.

Jeff "P.U." Morley 
Title: Re: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Tom Graves on September 06, 2025, 12:40:44 PM
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/yet-another-morley-nothingburger (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/yet-another-morley-nothingburger)

Yet Another Morley Nothingburger 

Congresswoman Luna convinced CA Director Ratcliffe to release its file on Herminio Diaz -- whom Rob Reiner claimed was a grassy knoll assassin. Surprise, surprise, there is nothing in the file to sustain the allegation. Morley has come up empty once again.

I knew Morley was full of beans when I asked him about five years ago if he thought Yuri Nosenko was a true defector and he said "yes."
Title: Re: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Fred Litwin on September 06, 2025, 01:41:37 PM
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/i-am-now-a-pro-bono-lawyer-for-the-cia
 (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/i-am-now-a-pro-bono-lawyer-for-the-cia)
I am now a Pro Bono Lawyer for the CIA

Here is Jefferson Morley's response to my article on the Herminio Diaz file.
Title: Re: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Gerry Down on September 08, 2025, 10:10:28 AM
The interest in Diaz in relation to the JFKA seems to stem from a confession Tony Cuesta allegedly made about him. In the following forum thread i go through why that confession implicating Diaz in the JFKA is almost certainly bogus: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/31530-tony-cuestas-bogus-confession/
Title: Re: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Michael T. Griffith on September 08, 2025, 08:20:51 PM
I am now a Pro Bono Lawyer for the CIA.

Finally, you admit it!!!  :) :) :) :) :)

Don't feel too bad. According to several of the far-left folks in the Education Forum, I'm a CIA disinformation agent because I reject Fletcher Prouty!
Title: Re: Yet Another Morley Nothingburger
Post by: Lance Payette on September 08, 2025, 09:28:13 PM
Finally, you admit it!!!  :) :) :) :) :)

Don't feel too bad. According to several of the far-left folks in the Education Forum, I'm a CIA disinformation agent because I reject Fletcher Prouty!
If I were Mr. Niedernut, I might actually suspect you of being a disinformation agent for reasons entirely unrelated to Prouty. At least from the training I received at Langley, the disinformation agent ploy is not to challenge any CT narrative with LN stuff but to pose as such an off-the-wall CT wacko as to embarrass the entire community. At least that's how it worked in the UFO field with poor old Paul Bennewitz, who was ultimately driven right off the deep end. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz.

I am one of the few the CIA folks pay (if you call $65 a week "pay") to be a voice of reason and sanity, but I think my puppet masters are starting to realize it's a waste of money. Anyway, since I've never encountered you at one of the Langley love fests, I am willing to accept that you are a genuine off-the-wall CT wacko and not a poseur. If it's is a pose, I must say you're very good at it.

(If you want something to gnaw on, folks, I once innocently revealed these truths at the Ed Forum as an example of how easy it is to spin a dark and sinister narrative around almost anyone, whereupon Tracy Parnell warned me I had made a grievous mistake: One of my not-too-distant relatives was Lorenzo Dow Baker, the founder of the dreaded United Fruit Company (my middle name is Baker) ... my grandmother Baker, a fabulously wealthy Kansas City socialite, was friends with the Dulles family ... I have a photograph of me with William Webster, the former director of both the CIA and FBI who just died at 101 ... and I was quite close to Richard Kleindienst, the AG under Nixon when Watergate broke (and possibly the most gentlemanly guy I ever met). All of which adds up to a big nothingburger insofar as my life is concerned but could easily make me more suspicious than Ruth and Michael Paine put together. Fortunately, my alibi of being a 13-year-old goof who was eating lunch at Alice Vail Junior High when the JFKA occurred has held up so far.)