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Title: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on July 28, 2025, 03:53:30 PM


This is from the Tina Towner film...
Looks like a gunman from a second floor window...


(https://i.ibb.co/ccsyMb7V/Screenshot-2025-07-28-at-10-47-50-AM.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/36JfHg2/Screenshot-2025-07-28-at-10-28-58-AM-copy.png)
Title: Re: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on July 28, 2025, 03:56:15 PM

This is from the Tina Towner film...
Looks like a gunman from the second floor window...


(https://i.ibb.co/ccsyMb7V/Screenshot-2025-07-28-at-10-47-50-AM.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/36JfHg2/Screenshot-2025-07-28-at-10-28-58-AM-copy.png)

If trajectory matches, maybe this fellow took the first shot...
Title: Re: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Dr Alan Howard Davis on July 29, 2025, 10:06:58 PM
Uh -sorry Jake but if that was indeed the barrel of a gun -it would be 3 inch caliber or more, and the first shot would have blasted the car to smithereens! I would have thought that 1) people might just have noticed it in the window and 2) when fired, even if it missed would have rattled every window in the TSBD and put the fear of God in everyone in Dealey Plaza.
Title: Re: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on July 29, 2025, 10:45:17 PM
Uh -sorry Jake but if that was indeed the barrel of a gun -it would be 3 inch caliber or more, and the first shot would have blasted the car to smithereens! I would have thought that 1) people might just have noticed it in the window and 2) when fired, even if it missed would have rattled every window in the TSBD and put the fear of God in everyone in Dealey Plaza.

Good observation. I suppose this could have been a spotter's scope...

However, perhaps it was a combination silencer/flash-suppressor, similar to the items below... Though I really don't know what might have been available in the 1960's...


(https://i.ibb.co/9kX1Q1qK/Screenshot-2025-07-29-at-5-41-02-PM.png)
Title: Re: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Tom Graves on July 30, 2025, 02:33:58 AM
[...]

Comrade Jake "Eagle Eye" Maxwell,

You really should consider discontinuing your posting of KGB-approved disinformation here and going to work for The National Enquirer, instead.
Title: Re: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Michael T. Griffith on July 30, 2025, 06:22:27 PM
Good observation. I suppose this could have been a spotter's scope...

However, perhaps it was a combination silencer/flash-suppressor, similar to the items below... Though I really don't know what might have been available in the 1960's...

A lower-floor window of the TSBD is a possibility, but I think that a more likely lower firing position was a first-floor or second-floor window of the Dal-Tex Building. Some witnesses believed shots came from that building, and recall that a Mafia man was arrested as he was leaving the building because he appeared to be acting suspiciously. The Dallas police soon released him.

It makes complete sense to assume that one of the gunmen, perhaps two, used a silencer.
Title: Re: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Dr Alan Howard Davis on July 30, 2025, 10:28:53 PM
Hi Jake.. biggest diameter rifle scopes you could get in the '60s were about an 1 inch and silencer/suppressors about 1 1/2 inch. I don't discount the silencer theory - but I don't think that is one in that window, sorry.
Title: Re: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on July 31, 2025, 12:29:37 AM
Hi Jake.. biggest diameter rifle scopes you could get in the '60s were about an 1 inch and silencer/suppressors about 1 1/2 inch. I don't discount the silencer theory - but I don't think that is one in that window, sorry.

Not sure at all... but something is going on in that window...
Here's another frame... and yeah... looks like a gunman!!


(https://i.ibb.co/tw7kP24N/Screenshot-2025-07-30-at-7-20-39-PM.png)
Title: Re: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Tom Graves on July 31, 2025, 12:34:32 AM
[...]

You're you-know-what nuts.
Title: Re: The 2nd Floor gunman...
Post by: Royell Storing on July 31, 2025, 04:05:47 PM
A lower-floor window of the TSBD is a possibility, but I think that a more likely lower firing position was a first-floor or second-floor window of the Dal-Tex Building. Some witnesses believed shots came from that building, and recall that a Mafia man was arrested as he was leaving the building because he appeared to be acting suspiciously. The Dallas police soon released him.

It makes complete sense to assume that one of the gunmen, perhaps two, used a silencer.

   Remember that Elm St slopes downward toward the Triple Underpass. A person standing near the corner of Elm/Houston would have an elevated position in relation to the JFK Limo traveling down Elm St. Bill Newman said shot(s) came from "the garden" which runs down the Elm St Ext across from the TSBD. DPD Officer Smith is seen on the Couch film as he runs down the Elm St Ext. checking those same "bushes". A shooter in this location would be elevated vs the JFK Limo on Elm St.