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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Jake Maxwell on July 25, 2025, 03:19:03 PM
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In the Lost Bullet version of the Bell Film, we see the edge code or manufacturer's notches on the right side of the film (SEE gif below).
Normally, this is not seen.
Sooooo.... who is this?! (Not Zapruder or Sitzman...)
He looks as though he's holding a rifle and likely using the scope post-assassination.
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In the Lost Bullet version of the Bell Film, we see the edge code or manufacturer's notches on the right side of the film (SEE gif below).
Normally, this is not seen.
Sooooo.... who is this?! (Not Zapruder or Sitzman...)
He looks as though he's holding a rifle and likely using the scope post-assassination.
(https://i.ibb.co/KpwHyvXC/ezgif-com-resize-65.gif)
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Is that a woman with a dress?
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Go to "YOU TUBE" and search - "The Patsy Paschall film" (1:45) by - The JFK Theorist.
At the 1:15 Mark, (examine this frame-by-frame), you can see a dark figure at roughly ground level moving from L-R near the Zapruder Perch. I am not sure if this is the identical time frame of the Bell film snippet that you have posted, but it looks to be exceptionally close. This is the best copy of the Paschall Film I have seen. I am hoping that someone will provide a better copy.
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Go to "YOU TUBE" and search - "The Patsy Paschall film" (1:45) by - The JFK Theorist.
At the 1:15 Mark, (examine this frame-by-frame), you can see a dark figure at roughly ground level moving from L-R near the Zapruder Perch. I am not sure if this is the identical time frame of the Bell film snippet that you have posted, but it looks to be exceptionally close. This is the best copy of the Paschall Film I have seen. I am hoping that someone will provide a better copy.
Yes, there seems to be a lot of "pixel" movement in that area in the Paschall film...
However, I came across an Altgens 8 that might have been pre-released without full "alterations" as I suspect were done...
Here's what could be the same person at that corner of the perch as seen in the Bell film...
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You need to refer to your Darnell Images of The Shelter area behind Zapruder. How can Zapruder be entering the shelter BEHIND the Hester's? Zapruder is already supposed to be inside that shelter when the Hester's entered it.
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You need to refer to your Darnell Images of The Shelter area behind Zapruder. How can Zapruder be entering the shelter BEHIND the Hester's? Zapruder is already supposed to be inside that shelter when the Hester's entered it.
This image of what appears to be a gunman in the Bell film's manufacturer's notch, appears before Zapruder walks out into the open area (while Sitzman turns back toward the pergola shelter), then turns back to walk past Sitzman to enter the pergola shelter... likely followed by Sitzman and then Beatrice and Charles through the very same entranceway... (I'm not sure this sequence in the Bell film is shown in The Lost Bullet...)
Who is this person who appears to be holding a rifle?
Could it have been Zapruder? He would have had to move fast if Mark Bell continued filming...
Who is this? That is the most important question...
It likely won't convince LN'rs otherwise... but might give them a slight pause...
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Just look closely at the DARNELL Film images you posted. Zapruder is allegedly entering the shelter BEHIND the Hesters. This portion of the Darnell Film is captured when Bill Newman is pounding the ground with both hands. This is happening well after Zapruder has gotten down from the Perch and already entered the Shelter. Your claiming this man is Zapruder does Not fit the Zapruder timeline.
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I think you are misinterpreting the movements of the parties in the Darnell film...
Here is a narrative with photo-documented movements of the four, from another post...
It seems pretty clear where each was located and the order they all arrived in the pergola shelter...
This is the most likely scenario of the movements of Abraham Zapruder, Marilyn Sitzman, Beatrice Hester and Charles Hester, based on photos and film...
1 - Zapruder films pre-motorcade Marilyn Sitzman standing, Beatrice Hester sitting on the bench, and her husband Charles, sitting beside the bench... [ZAPRUDER]
2 - Zapruder and Sitzman on their pergola perch as the motorcade approaches... Beatrice standing beside the bench and her husband, Charles, sitting on the bench as the presidential motorcade passes... [BRONSON]
3 - Zapruder and Sitzman leave their perch, Charles and Beatrice have left the bench and are now sitting on the grass... [ALTGENS]
4 - Wiegman shows Charles Hester scrambling to get up, leaving his wife, Beatrice, on the grass and darting to the wall (BTW... looking guilty as sin turning back at the last moment, as though he is depositing a gun or camera to someone on the other side of the wall, trying to get out of view of Wiegman's camera) [WIEGMAN]
5 - Once off the perch, Sitzman turns back toward the pergola while Zapruder walks toward the middle of the open area...
Most likely Zapruder has a few words across the way with Charles Hester who is now standing at the wall, after getting up from the grass, where he has left Beatrice...
Then Zapruder turns back toward the pergola... [BELL]
6 - Zapruder walks past Sitzman, who eventually follows him into the pergola, where Zapruder gets on the walkie talkie... [BELL]
7 - Beatrice Hester gets up and walks past her husband down the walkway to join Zapruder and Sitzman in the pergola... Charles lingers at the wall, but then joins the party... [TOWNER]
8 - Darnell captures on film Charles and Beatrice looking out from the pergola, while Zapruder seems to pace, talking on his walkie talkie, eventually moving out of view... [DARNELL]
9 - FINALLY... the most damning and convincing film image (with slight enhancements) that seems to implicate Zapruder and his fellows in the dirty deed... [DARNELL]
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