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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on July 18, 2025, 12:06:02 PM
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The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy They Need
They are desperate to prove the malignancy of the deep state and so have embraced a JFK assassination conspiracy. Recent comments by Tucker Carlson, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, and Roger Stone are just off-the-charts stupid.
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So exactly when did Josiah Thompson or David Lifton join the MAGA Movement?
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They didn't and if you read the article, you would know that.
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The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy They Need
They are desperate to prove the malignancy of the deep state and so have embraced a JFK assassination conspiracy. Recent comments by Tucker Carlson, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, and Roger Stone are just off-the-charts stupid.
Fred, am I to infer from this that you are anti-Trump? I always had you pegged as a conservative. Are you a conservative Never Trumper? Is that it?
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Yeah I read it. It is nothing more than another MAGA smear attempt. Attempting to tie the JFK Assassination to the MAGA movement is where we are at. The Left with nothing left but smear campaigns. And the Dem Party now below 20% Approval? It is stuff like this that continues driving them off of the National Map. This is why they know with certainty that they need to eliminate the Electoral College. Under 20% just don't come close to cutting the mustard on a National Level.
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The conspiracist Vincent Salandria once remarked that when he gave a talk on the assassination that he would often get a more receptive response from a conservative audience than a liberal one. This was roughly the 1970s era. That's pretty anecdotal - there's a Yiddish saying, "For example is not proof" - but I think it reflects the idea that there's always been a populist Right that was more open to believing in a conspiracy than the Establishment Right. So it's not all new.
But that's true across the board isn't it? It's always been more of a lone assassin believing Establishment vs. a conspiracy believing Outsider split than a Right vs. Left. Historically, it's been Left conspiracists who grabbed the headlines - Mark Lane, Stone et al. - but now we see the populist/anti-Establishment Right figures like Carlson (he's literally nuts, right? what's the explanation?) promoting it.
Still this increase is a more recent change on the Right. Obviously it comes mostly from the "Russian collusion" controversy where they view the "Deep State" as getting JFK just like "they" tried to get Trump. What else could be the cause? Meanwhile there's been a decrease among Democrats. Maybe for a similar, albeit reverse, reason. That is there's more trust on the Left of the government than before.
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Conspiracy horseshoes. Who said this? Who does it sound like? Especially the last part.
"It was obvious, it was blatantly obvious that it was a conspiracy.....The forces that killed Kennedy wanted the message clear: 'We are in control and no one -- not the President, not Congress, nor any elected official -- no one can do anything about it.' It was a message to the people that their Government was powerless (sic). And the people eventually got the message. Consider what happened since the Kennedy assassination. People see government today as unresponsive to their needs, yet the budget and power of the military and intelligence establishment have increased tremendously."
A major populist/MAGA Rightist? Tucker Carlson? Glenn Beck? Steve Bannon?
Answer: Vincent Salandria.
Just to add this about Salandria's history: After JFK's assassination we saw the greatest expansion of programs for the people in American history, even surpassing FDR's New Deal. Viz., LBJ's "Great Society" initiatives and more. From Medicaid and Medicare, poverty programs, education programs...a massive investment in people. Salandria's history is just wrong from top to bottom and the middle too. But he does sound like Carlson, doesn't he?
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Vincent Salandria remarked that when he gave a talk on the assassination that he would often get a more receptive response from a conservative audience than a liberal one. This was roughly the 1970s era. That's pretty anecdotal but I do think it reflects the idea that there's always been a populist Right that was more open to believing in a conspiracy than the Establishment Right. It's not new. But that's true across the board. It's more of an Establishment vs. Outside split than a Right vs. Left. Historically, it's been Left conspiracists who grabbed the headlines - Mark Lane et al. - but now we see the populist Right figures like Carlson (he is literally nuts, right? what's the explanation?) promoting it.
Still I think this is a more recent change on the Right.
(https://www.drivehq.com/file/DFPublishFile.aspx/FileID12616647774/Keyisisj39s6vwh/jfk demo.JPG)
It's all about Trump.
Pre-Trump: The Boomer/1960s New Left generation tended to be more conspiratorial and skeptical of institutions like the FBI and the military. People like Oliver Stone and Michael Moore were highly regarded in Liberal pop culture.
Trump's arrival into national politics has scrambled things a bit. He has made it acceptable for Conservatives to question US foreign policies, institutions like the FBI and CIA, and the military industrial complex.
And due to political partisanship, many Boomer, MSNBC watching Dems (even those who were part of the New Left in the 60s and 70s), have grown more fond of the national security institutions and foreign policies that Trump is perceived as a threat to. Conspiratorial views have also been shunned more in Democratic circles under Trump. There's not as much space on the Left today for anti-Establishment politics (but that may be changing soon depending on what happens with the NYC mayor's race).
How this ties into the Kennedy assassination is, regardless of who Americans hold responsible for Kennedy's assassination the universal view among those who believe there was a conspiracy is that our government lied to us about the facts of Kennedy's murder. To accept that our government would lie about the murder of a US President requires some level of anti-Establishment political beliefs. And as I said earlier, at least in the Trump era, the anti-Establishment politics seems to be more prominent on the Right today.
During the recent JFK assassination hearings in the House, as a Progressive, I was saddened to see Congressional Dems express indifference towards the new JFK assassination files while most Republicans at the hearings expressed genuine interest in the new information. Still, I don't think members of Congress accurately represent the views of their constituents. There are still many Democratic voters who believe there was a conspiracy in JFK's assassination. But among the Democratic and Liberal establishment, anti-establishment views and conspiratorial stuff are mostly shunned.
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Fred, am I to infer from this that you are anti-Trump? I always had you pegged as a conservative. Are you a conservative Never Trumper? Is that it?
Griffith,
Are you pro-Trump?
If so, it would go a long way in explaining what a rabid conspiracy theorist you are.
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We just witnessed what went down with the Trump/Russia stuff. Who had ever heard of a FISA Court prior to this attempted Railroading? And people previously laughed at references to a "Star Chamber"? No recording, minutes, or any other Official Record of what went down inside that FISA Court time after time after time? Anybody scoffing at a Deep State need look no further than the FISA Court decisions/wiretaps. That's DEEP STATE.
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Griffith,
Are you pro-Trump?
If so, it would go a long way in explaining what a rabid conspiracy theorist you are.
You frequently espouse conspiracy theories about KGB agents under every American's bed and yet, you have the audacity to accuse others of being rabid CT'ers?
:D
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You frequently espouse conspiracy theories about KGB agents under every American's bed and yet, you have the audacity to accuse others of being rabid CT'ers?
Righty-Lefty Banksky,
Are you old enough to remember KGB* agents Anna Chapman and the Twelve Dwarfs, whom the FBI finally rolled up in 2010 after they'd been in the U.S. and Canada for ten years?
How about Igor Danchenko, the guy who fed gullible Christopher Steele both false and unfalsifiable "intel" for his dossier on The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx"), and whom the FBI was investigating as a possible KGB agent until he temporarily disappeared in 2011?
I could go on and on, but for now why don't you learn something for a change and google my Wikipedia article on Tennent H. Bagley and read at least some of my 350+ free articles on "How the KGB Zombified the CIA and the FBI" on Substack?
*Today's SVR and FSB
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And now the DOJ has thrown Obama into the middle of the Trump/Russia Conspiracy. And remember that Gen Flynn was unmasked via VP Joe Biden's security clearance. And people laugh at the mention of "Conspiracy Theories"? This stuff goes on regularly and has been for decades. Brennan and Clapper heavily involved for a long time too.
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And now the DOJ has thrown Obama into the middle of the Trump/Russia Conspiracy.
DOJ, or Comrade Tulsi Gabbard?
The big mistake Obama made regarding your buddy Putin was taking Michael McFaul's advice and "resetting."
And remember that Gen Flynn was unmasked via VP Joe Biden's security clearance.
What do you mean, Storing?
And people laugh at the mention of "Conspiracy Theories"?
IHMO, you should be less concerned with "Russiagate," "Hunter Biden's Laptop," and "Epstein's Deep State Pedophile List," etc, and more concerned with what the Kremlin has been doing (especially since the JFKA) to get us to tear ourselves apart ever since it, realizing in 1959 that the USSR and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, set up Department D in the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and Department 14 the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB) to wage Sun Tzu-based disinformation, "active measures," and (mole-based) strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies.
This stuff goes on regularly and has been for decades.
See above.
Brennan and Clapper heavily involved [sic] for a long time, too.
They were busy for many years fighting your world-class humanitarian buddies in the KGB* and the GRU, Storing.
Ironically, even Clapper Michael Hayden was duped into believing that false defector-in-place in Geneva in June 1962 / false-or-rogue physical defector to the U.S. in February 1964 Yuri "The KGB Had Absolutely Nothing To Do With Former Sharpshooting Marine U-2 Radar Operator Lee Harvey Oswald During The Two-and-One-Half Years He Lived Half-A-Mile from A KGB School In Minsk" Nosenko was a true defector.
*Today's SVR and FSB
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Fred,
FYI, many Trump voters are traditional conservatives who tend to believe the Warren Commission, who believe JFK was a weak leftist, and who are skeptical of JFK assassination conspiracy theories.
Yes, there are also many Trump voters who reject the lone-gunman theory and who believe there was a conspiracy, but there is roughly an equal number of Trump voters who believe the opposite.
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Democrats and Republicans can't agree on what to have for lunch. Even if they did agree they would end up throwing the food at each other. It's worse now then before but it's always been there. Since the inception of parties.
The idea that several generations of Democrats and Republicans in Congress and outside, in the Presidency, in the media, could agree to coverup for the murder of JFK for more than half a century is...well, c'mon, who are you kidding with this?
The fact that conspiracies occur doesn't mean you have to believe in all of them.
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Democrats and Republicans can't agree on what to have for lunch. Even if they did agree they would end up throwing the food at each other. It's worse now then before but it's always been there. For centuries.
The idea that several generations of Democrats and Republicans in Congress and outside, in the Presidency, in the media, could agree to coverup for the murder of JFK is c'mon, who are you kidding?
The fact that conspiracies occur doesn't mean you have to believe in all of them.
Just how many TOTAL people in Congress are seriously interested in the JFK Assassination? And I mean "SERIOUSLY". You could probably count the total of both houses on 1 hand. Stop with the Joe McCarthy routine. They ain't under every bed.
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Just how many TOTAL people in Congress are seriously interested in the JFK Assassination? And I mean "SERIOUSLY". You could probably count the total of both houses on 1 hand. Stop with the Joe McCarthy routine. They ain't under every bed.
Storing,
1) Joe McCarthy was basically RIGHT (pardon the pun).
2) Given the FACT that a psychologically disturbed FORMER Marine SHARPSHOOTER and U-2 RADAR operator who had DEFECTED to the USSR (probably having been SENT there by a KGB mole in the Office of Security to unwittingly PROTECT said mole from being UNCOVERED) killed JFK sixty-two YEARS ago by firing THREE shots at him over 10.2 seconds in the ECHO chamber known as Dealey Plaza, why is it important WHETHER or not today's Congressmen and CONGRESSWOMEN are interested in the JFK ASSASSINATION?
3) PS -- WHENEVER I post SOMETHING to you, I'm going to WRITE like this. I hope that you LIKE it.
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So NOW we are up to 10.2 seconds elapsed firing time? How many times are you guys gonna change things around to try and fit that square peg into a round hole?
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So NOW we are up to 10.2 seconds elapsed firing time? How many times are you guys gonna change things around to try and fit that square peg into a round hole?
Storing,
Obviously, you HAVEN'T been paying ATTENTION for the past YEAR or so.
During that period of time I've pointed out more than once that in a 2020 scientific article by Brian Roselle and Kenneth Scearce, they showed that the conscious reactions, as "captured" by the Zapruder film, of seven witnesses (including JFK, Jackie, Governor and Mrs. Connally, and Roy Kellerman in the limo, and two others near it) to the sounds of Oswald's first, missing-everything shot, indicate that said shot was fired at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 after a 17-second pause (which pause he made to save precious film).
D'oh!
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No "pause" per Dan Rather. Stop making stuff up.
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No "pause" per Dan Rather. Stop making stuff up.
Storing,
Dan Rather, HIMSELF, admitted that he made a lot of MISTAKES in those broadcasts.
He EXPLAINED that he made them because he'd ONLY been able to watch the traumatic clip ONE time, he wasn't able to take NOTES, and that he then had to RUN several blocks to the STUDIO and relate what he'd "seen" to the NATION.
D'oh!
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STOP with the Rather "run" stuff to the studio. He did several telecasts. Rather also said the Zapruder Film he watched that weekend showed Gov Connally being "HIT" in the chest when Connally was facing the TSBD. And he also reported seeing a SS Agent in the JFK Limo holding/talking onna phone. (1) The turn onto Elm St, (2) Gov Connally being "HIT" in the Chest, and (3) The Phone. 3 different points in time, ALL 3 NOT on the Current Zapruder Film. So Rather got ALL of this wrong and somehow became the CBS News Prime Time Anchor? Obviously, Rather was holding some serious leverage.
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STOP with the Rather "run" stuff to the studio. He did several telecasts. Rather also said the Zapruder Film he watched that weekend showed Gov Connally being "HIT" in the chest when Connally was facing the TSBD. And he also reported seeing a SS Agent in the JFK Limo holding/talking onna phone. (1) The turn onto Elm St, (2) Gov Connally being "HIT" in the Chest, and (3) The Phone. 3 different points in time, ALL 3 NOT on the Current Zapruder Film. So Rather got ALL of this wrong and somehow became the CBS News Prime Time Anchor? Obviously, Rather was holding some serious leverage.
Storing,
Dan RATHER was rather FULL of you-know-WHAT.
AFTER his note-less, virtually out-of-breath, ERROR-filled FIRST broadcast, he had to KEEP SAYING basically the same GARBAGE in his FOLLOWING ones.
D'oh!
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So you're saying Rather was forced to repeat inaccurate reporting and still was made CBS Prime Time News Anchor? Your bolstering my position. Rather held serious leverage.
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So you're saying Rather was forced to repeat inaccurate reporting and still was made CBS Prime Time News Anchor? Your bolstering my position. Rather held serious leverage.
Storing,
The network HAD to take Rather's WORD for what he thought he'd SEEN.
He honestly told the NATION what he THOUGHT he'd seen in the Zapruder film, but he was WRONG.
How could he CORRECT himself if he HONESTLY thought that that's WHAT he'd SEEN?
GIVEN the FACT that the assassination was so CONFUSING and so CONTROVERSIAL from DAY ONE (basically because no one realized that Oswald had fired his first, missing-everything shot before Zapruder resumed filming, and with the muzzle of his short-rifle inside the building), why SHOULDN'T the network make him one of its news anchors?
The JFKA made him FAMOUS, although he was grossly WRONG in what he THOUGHT he'd seen!!!!!
D'oh!
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No legit National Network rewards incompetence with the highest position in the company. Who you kidding?
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No legit National Network rewards incompetence with the highest position in the company. Who you kidding?
Who could have PLAUSIBLY accused him of "incompetence" regarding what he THOUGHT he'd seen when he watched the TRAUMATIC clip at normal speed just one time?
Did anyone OTHER than Rather report so early what THEY thought they'd seen in the clip?
D'oh
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Storing,
Obviously, you HAVEN'T been paying ATTENTION for the past YEAR or so.
During that period of time I've pointed out more than once that in a 2020 scientific article by Brian Roselle and Kenneth Scearce, they showed that the conscious reactions, as "captured" by the Zapruder film, of seven witnesses (including JFK, Jackie, Governor and Mrs. Connally, and Roy Kellerman in the limo, and two others near it) to the sounds of Oswald's first, missing-everything shot, indicate that said shot was fired at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 after a 17-second pause (which pause he made to save precious film).
D'oh!
But 3 more shots were fired after that, so that means conspiracy. Z-160 Z-224 Z-313
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But 3 more shots were fired after that, so that means conspiracy. Z-160 Z-224 Z-313
LOL!
Good one!
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Griffith,
Are you pro-Trump? If so, it would go a long way in explaining what a rabid conspiracy theorist you are.
This is more of your silliness. Quite a few Trump voters believe in the lone-gunman theory, while many others do not.
"Rabid conspiracy theorist"? This is rich coming from a guy who endlessly peddles claims of endless Russian conspiracies. I won't even try to count how many times just in the last three months you have accused people of being Russian/Putin agents merely beause they disagree with you.
Am I "pro-Trump"? Well, it's complicated. He was my last pick in the GOP primary in 2016 and in 2020. I voted for him only because I found the alternative even worse. I viewed him as the lesser of two evils. I agree with about 70% of his policies. I lament his personal conduct--his abrasiveness, his inclination to exaggerate, his failure to carefully study issues, and other unpresidential conduct.
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Who could have PLAUSIBLY accused him of "incompetence" regarding what he THOUGHT he'd seen when he watched the TRAUMATIC clip at normal speed just one time?
Did anyone OTHER than Rather report so early what THEY thought they'd seen in the clip?
D'oh
Do you understand what a "Reporter" at a National Network is expected to do? What your claiming Rather did is more inline with the weekly column of Floyd The Barber in the Mayberry Gazette.
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Do you understand what a "Reporter" at a National Network is expected to do?
He was allowed to watch the confusing and traumatic clip only one time.
He didn't take notes.
He then ran several blocks to the news station.
He had to say something to the nation.
At least he was correct in saying that the limo turned onto Elm Street from Houston Street, that both JFK and Connally were hit, that JFK's body may have brushed Jackie's legs!!!, that Jackie climbed onto the trunk of the limo, that the Secret Service man riding on the back bumper pushed her back, and that a Secret Service man in the front seat was holding a telephone as the limo sped away.
However, he made up the bit about Connally's being hit when he was turned towards the TSBD and waving to Oswald, or some-such thing.
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Where on the Zapruder Film is Kellerman or Greer holding a telephone? EVIDENCE of this would then open the discussion to including the recording of this possible conversation along with the recording of possible additional shots being fired. Zapruder STOPPED filming as the JFK Limo went under the Triple Underpass. If a SS Agent is holding a telephone, a possible conversation on that telephone would therefore have happened BEFORE the JFK Limo went under the Triple Underpass. Where on the Current Zapruder Film do You see a SS Agent holding a telephone?
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Where on the Zapruder Film is Kellerman or Greer holding a telephone? EVIDENCE of this would then open the discussion to including the recording of this possible conversation along with the recording of possible additional shots being fired. Zapruder STOPPED filming as the JFK Limo went under the Triple Underpass. If a SS Agent is holding a telephone, a possible conversation on that telephone would therefore have happened BEFORE the JFK Limo went under the Triple Underpass. Where on the Current Zapruder Film do You see a SS Agent holding a telephone?
Storing,
You would have to ask Dan Rather, but I believe Kellerman testified or wrote in a report that he radioed the DPD lead car or some-such thing right away.
Are you going to hold it against Rather for describing the device as a "telephone" rather than a "radio microphone"?
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Storing,
You would have to ask Dan Rather, but I believe Kellerman testified or wrote in a report that he radioed the DPD lead car or some-such thing right away.
Are you going to hold it against Rather for describing the device as a "telephone" rather than a "radio microphone"?
This is what happens when alleged Inaccurate Information is simply repeated. YOU repeated what Rather reported. This is why someone making a Nationwide/Worldwide Broadcast has a very high bar/standard to meet. Viewing the Zapruder Film on the weekend of the JFK Assassination was No Joke. Rather knew the gravity of his Seeing/Reporting what was on the Zapruder Film. He was even intro'd by Walter Cronkite for his CBS NEWS TV Report. This alone signaled the importance of the Rather Zapruder Film Report. Rather "inaccurately" reporting over several telecasts what he viewed on the Z Film and then his being rewarded with a promotion to the heralded Walter Cronkite CBS News Anchor position IS a joke. Rather was rewarded for putting a sock in his seeing the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St and his seeing Gov Connally being "hit" in the chest when Connally turned around and was facing the TSBD. The Current Zapruder Film NOT showing these 2 Events is Proof that it has been altered.
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This is what happens when alleged Inaccurate Information is simply repeated. YOU repeated what Rather reported. This is why someone making a Nationwide/Worldwide Broadcast has a very high bar/standard to meet. Viewing the Zapruder Film on the weekend of the JFK Assassination was No Joke. Rather knew the gravity of his Seeing/Reporting what was on the Zapruder Film. He was even intro'd by Walter Cronkite for his CBS NEWS TV Report. This alone signaled the importance of the Rather Zapruder Film Report. Rather "inaccurately" reporting over several telecasts what he viewed on the Z Film and then his being rewarded with a promotion to the heralded Walter Cronkite CBS News Anchor position IS a joke. Rather was rewarded for putting a sock in his seeing the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St and his seeing Gov Connally being "hit" in the chest when Connally turned around and was facing the TSBD. The Current Zapruder Film NOT showing these 2 Events is Proof that it has been altered.
Storing,
For QUITE a while no one KNEW that Rather was so wrong about so MUCH of what he'd thought he'd seen in his ONE viewing of the traumatic and CONFUSING clip.
Everybody HAD to take his word for IT.
Question: Why did he ADMIT years later that he'd made SO many mistakes in his RECOUNTING of what he'd THOUGHT he'd seen to The National Audience?
Did the evil, evil Deep State FORCE him to say THAT?
REGARDING his reporting that he’d SEEN in the Zapruder clip a Secret Service AGENT (Kellerman) holding a RADIO MIC as the limo sped OFF, isn't it LOGICAL to assume that the CLIP Rather watched was SHARPER than the copies ANY of US have watched, and that THAT simple fact WOULD explain how he at LEAST got THAT part right?
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As I said, Rather was rewarded for putting a "sock" in his Zapruder Film reporting. Rather became CBS Prime Time News Anchor, Gerald Ford, (Moved the JFK Back Wound UP to the base of the neck) became POTUS, and Specter, (SBT), became a US Senator. Connect The Dots.
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As I said, Rather was rewarded for putting a "sock" in his Zapruder Film reporting. Rather became CBS Prime Time News Anchor, Gerald Ford, (Moved the JFK Back Wound UP to the base of the neck) became POTUS, and Specter, (SBT), became a US Senator. Connect The Dots.
Storing,
Dan Rather told The National Audience that the limo had turned onto Elm Street from Houston Street, that both JFK had been shot, that Jackie had crawled onto the trunk, and that Clint Hill had pushed her back. That's about all he got right.
Gerald Ford raised the location of the entry wound so it would more closely match the measurements that Boswell had taken and which Humes had written down (or was it the other way around?).
Arlen Specter's "Single Bullet Theory" was correct.
Get over it.
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The Autopsy Photo of the JFK Back Wound is nowhere close to the "base of the neck". But like the Zapruder Film,Rep. Ford knew the autopsy photos would Not become public for decades. You wanna talk about "measurements"? As they say in the real estate business, it's ALL about Location, Location, Location!
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The Autopsy Photo of the JFK Back Wound is nowhere close to the "base of the neck". But like the Zapruder Film, Rep. Ford knew the autopsy photos would Not become public for decades.
Storing,
That AUTOPSY photo's being so MISLEADING for so many tinfoil-hat CTs is probably DUE to the fact THAT, as Dr. Humes TESTIFIED, JFK had a "very well-developed SET of muscles in his THORACO [i.e., thorax and chest] and SHOULDER girdle," and the FACT that RIGOR MORTIS had set IN by the time the photo was TAKEN.
D'oh
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There clearly is a BULLET HOLE in JFK's Back. Nothing "misleading" about that.
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Storing,
That AUTOPSY photo's being so MISLEADING for so many tinfoil-hat CTs is probably DUE to the fact THAT, as Dr. Humes TESTIFIED, JFK had a "very well-developed SET of muscles in his THORACO [i.e., thorax and chest] and SHOULDER girdle," and the FACT that RIGOR MORTIS had set IN by the time the photo was TAKEN. D'oh
Rigor mortis would not have caused the bullet wound to move nearly 2 inches by the time it was photographed. That is ludicrous. Wounds don't magically move like that just because of rigor mortis.
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The only reason Rep Ford would move that JFK BACK Wound UP to the base of the Neck would be because he knew the JFK Autopsy Photos would be locked up for decades and Not viewed by the public. Well, that and the VP appointment and then onto the POTUS position by merely being next in line. In all fairness, the WC had to approve that moving of the Back Wound, but those guys were silly putty in the hands of LBJ. LBJ and J Edgar had their "Blue Print" unfolding by the morning after the Kill Shot. All you have to do is listen to the phone call between them the morning after LBJ fled from Dallas with the stolen JFK Body in tow.
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The only reason Rep Ford would move that JFK BACK Wound UP to the base of the Neck would be because he knew the JFK Autopsy Photos would be locked up for decades and Not viewed by the public. Well, that and the VP appointment and then onto the POTUS position by merely being next in line. In all fairness, the WC had to approve that moving of the Back Wound, but those guys were silly putty in the hands of LBJ. LBJ and J Edgar had their "Blue Print" unfolding by the morning after the Kill Shot. All you have to do is listen to the phone call between them the morning after LBJ fled from Dallas with the stolen JFK Body in tow.
Storing,
Have you always been paranoiac?
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No time to read the thread, but I suppose I'm a MAGA type of sorts. I don't despise The Donald with every fiber of my being, so this makes me part of the MAGA crowd, right?
The problem is, JFKA-related discussions are NEVER really about the JFKA and haven't been for probably 50 years.
The JFKA is just a Rorschach test in which you can, and will, see whatever you want to see. It then becomes a tool to further whatever agenda you want to further.
Occasionally, as we see now and see often in the UFO community, agendas overlap or coincide and we end up with some distinctly odd bedfellows.
That's why, IMHO, JFKA-related discussions are fundamentally humorous. They aren't really about the JFKA. At all. AT ALL.