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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Michael Walton on July 14, 2025, 03:08:48 PM
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If so, is it the result of 66 years of an "official" report that says only one man did it and all other possible leads and strange occurrences of the murder are just hogwash or swept under the rug?
Whereas actual autopsy photos show a back [not a neck] bullet entrance that did not terminate, and another front injury in the throat - and neither of the shots align? And these shots were supposedly were from the 6th floor of a high-rise building? And there's no downward angle of these shots, yet the official conclusion is one bullet came from this high angle and created the wounds?
Whereas a clear movie was shot of the entire murder sequence and the obvious sequence of shots happen split seconds apart, showing that it's physically impossible for these shots to have been made by one bullet? And this supposed single bullet creates a wound of the person sitting in front of the first victim, yet he doesn't even react to this shot until split seconds afterward?
Whereas the so-called lone nut, Marxist, out-of-control accused assassin defects to Russia for no real reason, screws around in that country for a while, then changes his mind and waltzes right back to America with a hot new Russian wife to boot? And absolutely no questions are asked? And we're expected to believe that this guy is just a madman a la Tim McVeigh, a mere angry nobody?
And he's just oh-so-smoothly steered into a job at the eventual assassination site and we're expected to believe that it's just mere coincidence? And at the same time, this so-called Marxist who's out of control, angry, and psychotic wears his U.S. Marine Corps ring the day he's accused of killing the president? And when he sees the writing on the wall, he tells the reason why he's being accused of all of this and he's just a fall guy?
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I believe LN'ers mentally/emotionally can't accept that American bureaucrats and other institutions would lie or spread misinformation about the murder of a US President.
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I believe LN'ers mentally/emotionally can't accept that American bureaucrats and other institutions would lie or spread misinformation about the murder of a US President.
Righty-Lefty Banksy,
I believe Far-Lefties and Far-Right MAGATs mentally/emotionally can't accept the fact that the organization they think of as a world-class humanitarian organization -- the KGB* -- having realized that the USSR and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, set up Department D in the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB) in 1959 to wage disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies in order to get us to tear ourselves apart.
And I give you The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx).
*Today's SVR and FSB
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Highly advise to read this. Shows the history of the intel/organized crime beginnings. So much going on behind the scenes, in the shadows. Right up to what's happening with Epstein affair.
Remember folks - a "government" is not some pure entity. It's run by people, warts and all.
https://archive.org/stream/one-nation-under-blackmail-vol-1-2-whitney-alyse-webb_202401/One%20Nation%20Under%20Blackmail--Vol%201%262%20-%20Whitney%20Alyse%20Webb_djvu.txt
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Walton,
It's more rational to believe that a psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist former Marine sharpshooter by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK by firing three shots at him -- using bullets that have a tendency to start tumbling upon exiting something soft (like a human neck) -- over 10.2 seconds in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza than it is to believe the KGB*-encouraged idea that oodles and gobs of bad guys were involved in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, the getting-away, and the all-important (and . . . gasp . . . continuing!!!) cover up.
LOL
*Today's SVR and FSB
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Righty-Lefty Banksy,
I believe Far-Lefties and Far-Right MAGATs mentally/emotionally can't accept the fact that the organization they think of as a world-class humanitarian organization -- the KGB* -- having realized that the USSR and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, set up Department D in the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB) in 1959 to wage disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies in order to get us to tear ourselves apart.
And I give you The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx).
*Today's SVR and FSB
I cannot speak for the Right but the Left is not united on JFK assassination research.
There are three groups on the Left:
A) The James DiEugenio/Lisa Pease types who strongly believe JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy involving the US national security state.
B) The Noam Chomsky/Sy Hersh types who strongly believe there was no conspiracy or that it doesn't matter if there was because JFK was a bad President.
C) The people who don't care because it happened decades ago. (this is arguably the largest group of people and growing as we move farther away from 1963)
I consider myself part of Group A.
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I cannot speak for the Right but the Left is not united on JFK assassination research.
There are three groups on the Left:
A) The James DiEugenio/Lisa Pease types who strongly believe JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy involving the US national security state.
B) The Noam Chomsky/Sy Hersh types who strongly believe there was no conspiracy or that it doesn't matter if there was because JFK was a bad President.
C) The people who don't care because it happened decades ago. (this is arguably the largest group of people and growing as we move farther away from 1963)
I consider myself part of Group A.
DiEugenio and Pease are big Jim Garrison supporters.
Are you a big Garrison supporter, too?
Regardless, did you know that researcher Malcolm Blunt (a JFKA conspiracy theorist!) says near the end of this September 2021 video that probable KGB "mole" Bruce Solie in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security hid OS files on Oswald from the Church Committee and the HSCA, and that Solie was "all over the Kennedy Investigation and all over Clay Shaw for Jim Garrison"?
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=youtube+%22malcolm+blunt%22+nosenko&&mid=7DBB503AA54F7BE317ED7DBB503AA54F7BE317ED&FORM=VAMGZC
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DiEugenio and Pease are big Jim Garrison supporters.
Are you a big Garrison supporter, too?
No. I don't agree with Jimmy Di or Lisa Pease on everything and have criticisms of Jim Garrison.
But I broadly agree with them that there was probably a conspiracy involving national security state actors.
I only used them as examples of Far-Left figures in the JFK research community but there are others of course.
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No. I don't agree with Jimmy Di or Lisa Pease on everything and have criticisms of Jim Garrison.
But I broadly agree with them that there was probably a conspiracy involving national security state actors.
I only used them as examples of Far-Left figures in the JFK research community but there are others of course.
Please freshen my memory -- How many "National Security State" bad guys do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, the getting-away, and the all-important (and evidently ongoing!!!) cover up?
Just a few, or oodles and gobs?
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Highly advise to read this. Shows the history of the intel/organized crime beginnings. So much going on behind the scenes, in the shadows. Right up to what's happening with Epstein affair.
Remember folks - a "government" is not some pure entity. It's run by people, warts and all.
https://archive.org/stream/one-nation-under-blackmail-vol-1-2-whitney-alyse-webb_202401/One%20Nation%20Under%20Blackmail--Vol%201%262%20-%20Whitney%20Alyse%20Webb_djvu.txt
Yeah, the US govt's cooperation with organized crime goes as far back as WWII. And later, the CIA cooperated with the mafia when they rigged the elections in Italy.
Epstein seems to have more ties to Israeli intelligence and possibly organized crime but the CIA had to have known what he was doing over the 25-30 years that he was an active spook who met with Presidents, Prime Ministers, and CEOs.
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Yeah, the US govt's cooperation with organized crime goes as far back as WWII. And later, the CIA cooperated with the mafia when they rigged the elections in Italy.
Epstein seems to have more ties to Israeli intelligence and possibly organized crime but the CIA had to have known what he was doing over the 25-30 years that he was an active spook who met with Presidents, Prime Ministers, and CEOs.
Righty-Lefty Banksy,
You know the father of Epstein's girlfriend was a KGB agent, right?
Regardless, regarding the JFKA, please refreshen my memory -- How many "National Security State" bad guys do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, the getting-away, and the all-important (and evidently ongoing!!!) cover up?
Just a few, or oodles and gobs?
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Righty-Lefty Banksy,
You know the father of Epstein's girlfriend was a KGB agent, right?
Robert Maxwell was most famous for being an Israeli spy but yes, I've heard that he worked for the Soviets as well.
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Robert Maxwell was most famous for being an Israeli spy but yes, I've heard that he worked for the Soviets as well.
The Russia mafia are "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin's enforcers.
Lots of high-level Russian mafia figures hold dual (and even triple) citizenship with Israeli being one of them.